Religion

[Chaka911]

Ill start off by saying that im a satanist. Yes a satanist. this doesnt mean im a freak or that i sacrifice animals but that i see my lord Satan as an Idol. I have a different religion. Are you religious. What do u beleve in,

[InvisblSkratchPiklz]

i believe this thread is gonna get closed!

i worship the thread closers

[ow1]

amen to that my brother amen to that

[FadeProof]

and i second that.
religon and graf have nothing in common, unless graf is your religon

[FadeProof]

and i second that.
religon and graf have nothing in common, unless graf is your religon

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[12ozDemon]

i believe in the mysterious powers of the sandra bullock. she tells us to celebrate the day the pilgrims landed at fraggle rock and won the battle of tattoine in the crabcake nebula.......

[Havoc411]

i believe you are a faggot



atheism is the way for me, weather it can be explained away or not i really just dont care, i live for me, not some greater being

[InvisblSkratchPiklz]

:lol:



crazy

[! PrOPeRr ! .aOk.cRu.]

Originally posted by Chaka911@Nov 17 2005, 08:12 PM
Ill start off by saying that im a satanist. Yes a satanist. this doesnt mean im a freak or that i sacrifice animals but that i see my lord Satan as an Idol. I have a different religion. Are you religious. What do u beleve in,
Some people are fucking losers.

[alive]

graff and snowboarding/skiing have nothing to do with graff and when i commented on that i was ridiculled by several people pointing out that its the general discussion section and anything can be brought up, im not saying that i agree, just that that seems to be the consensus

anyway, im an atheist

[12ozDemon]

haha yessss havoc doesnt like me!!!
oh wait....thats not good :( now im sad

[st3ve-ES]

i <3 jebus

[BRAINE]

gesus krist is pretty cool
but the only way religion has to do with this forum, is that i hate when people tag churches.
lame shit.

[Havoc411]

Originally posted by 12ozDemon@Nov 17 2005, 09:23 PM
haha yessss havoc doesnt like me!!!
oh wait....thats not good :( now im sad
not you, chaka

http://homepage.mac.com/nigelstewart/iblog/B1761793398/C600263800/E1475991199/Media/chaka.jpg

[DEKOR]

catholic... but i dont practise....
kinda hypocrite to tag and den go to church...
still beleive in god and jesus christ....

[City]

QUOTE (Chaka911 @ Nov 17 2005, 08:12 PM)
Ill start off by saying that im a satanist. Yes a satanist. this doesnt mean im a freak or that i sacrifice animals but that i see my lord Satan as an Idol. I have a different religion. Are you religious. What do u beleve in,


Some people are fucking losers.

He expressed his views. Don't make fun of him. Thats very rude

:)

Anyway Im Christian, dont practice, lol

[alive]

Originally posted by BRAINE@Nov 17 2005, 08:26 PM
gesus krist is pretty cool
but the only way religion has to do with this forum, is that i hate when people tag churches.
lame shit.
im not religious
but thats some fucking low shit right there
same goes for murals

[Alyte]

Dont practice? whats up with that? so your just in it for the goodies without having to do anything?

[DEKOR]

Originally posted by Alyte@Nov 17 2005, 08:44 PM
Dont practice? whats up with that? so your just in it for the goodies without having to do anything?
nah like i had my comunion and evrything, used to go to church...
but i dont anymore...i still beleive in god and jesus christ etc...and i guess i pray sometimes...by practising i mean taking the bread, confessing etc...

and wat do u mean by goodies???

[AMAZ tbscrew]

^^^wuts it matter <_<...if all the shit they say is true...god forgives us all and we all end up in heaven..thats wut the effin bible says

i swear...if we die and we dont go 2 heaven or hell...and all this shit is a lie...if u do the math like if u go 2 chruch all the times that u have 2 and shit..u waste half ur life


^^now isnt that a waste of life.... =\

[DEKOR]

i understand ur point...
personaly, its not to go to church that matters....like honestly, i prefer worshiping god in my own way,.,.

[HEIST]

First of all this was the post before the thread you started "im going to do absoultly nothing. I dont believe in god so im not going to church. Im actually a satanist. But i like Christmas for the presents" if you believe in satan you have to beieve in God because Satan was a fallen angel blah blah blah yeah im a christian. and just cuz you do graff doesnt meen your a hypocrite for goin to church graffiti is not a crime and in the 11th commandment the lord sayeth THOU SHALL NOT PAINT haha if he did alot of us would prob be in the same boat as Chaka over here

[DEKOR]

i neva thought of it this way!...haha thanks fo that!
ye isent there dis crew that write for god?

[stigma 2k6]

religon iz 4 gay people except the pope hes a gangsta.....but 4 u my dog qwaffing friend



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[HEIST]

haha actually ive been arrested bout 3 times and everytime i confess to my pastor he kinda laughs he wants me to stay outta trouble and everything but you know

[stigma 2k6]

anyway ur still gona go to hell ................... :lol:































suka

[HEIST]

beat you there!!! :P

[PearlMRR]

Concratulations....Ill kill satan and cut his head off and stab him with a machete and shoot him 500 times with a ak47

[PearlMRR]

I belive in God but i never go to church...but i should i guess

[Mekas]

Originally posted by Chaka911@Nov 17 2005, 08:12 PM
Ill start off by saying that im a satanist. Yes a satanist. this doesnt mean im a freak or that i sacrifice animals but that i see my lord Satan as an Idol. I have a different religion. Are you religious. What do u beleve in,
Fawwk Youu.

[PearlMRR]

there has to be an explaination of how everything got here...like space.....HERES A TRICK QUESTION!!! if you do belive in God, who made God??? Gotcha bitch :)

[PearlMRR]

Originally posted by Chaka911@Nov 17 2005, 08:12 PM
Ill start off by saying that im a satanist. Yes a satanist. this doesnt mean im a freak or that i sacrifice animals but that i see my lord Satan as an Idol. I have a different religion. Are you religious. What do u beleve in,
:D haha your a jackass

[Myme]

People who go to church and do graffiti are retarded. Sitting in the hen doesn't make you a chicken.

[RingRing]

Originally posted by Chaka911@Nov 17 2005, 08:12 PM
Ill start off by saying that im a satanist. Yes a satanist. this doesnt mean im a freak or that i sacrifice animals but that i see my lord Satan as an Idol. I have a different religion. Are you religious. What do u beleve in,
your a sick peice of shit you know that!!! someone outta smash your fucking teeth out :angry:
having satan as an idol...burn in hell you fucker.....
who ever closes this tread will go to heaven for sure!!!
as said b4 religion has nothing to do with graff and being a dumb satan warshiping peice of shit has nothing to do with this earth.....do us a favor and go die.

[>SM!7K<]

Agnostic 420

[PearlMRR]

Originally posted by Myme@Nov 17 2005, 09:53 PM
People who go to church and do graffiti are retarded. Sitting in the hen doesn't make you a chicken.
:rolleyes: thats dumb so probaly 60% of people who do graffiti are retarded?

[RingRing]

the main problem here is that not to many people go to church these days. some ppl know where they belong even though they dont go to church but what pisses me off is that some fuckers mock religion and spit worthless shit as if they wrote the bible themselves.....have some fucking decensy for crying outloud.....i outta wash your dirty mouths with soap!!!
but ass PearlMMR said......i would rip satans fucking head off, smash it with a sledge hammer a few times then flush the worthless remains down a toilet

[DEKOR]

Originally posted by PearlMRR@Nov 17 2005, 09:26 PM
there has to be an explaination of how everything got here...like space.....HERES A TRICK QUESTION!!! if you do belive in God, who made God??? Gotcha bitch :)
god has been here forvever...da thing is dat its impossible for humans to think of infinit...unlimited things..

[PearlMRR]

Originally posted by RingRing@Nov 17 2005, 10:06 PM
the main problem here is that not to many people go to church these days. some ppl know where they belong even though they dont go to church but what pisses me off is that some fuckers mock religion and spit worthless shit as if they wrote the bible themselves.....have some fucking decensy for crying outloud.....i outta wash your dirty mouths with soap!!!
but ass PearlMMR said......i would rip satans fucking head off, smash it with a sledge hammer a few times then flush the worthless remains down a toilet
Lol wow chill i was joking around, if you want to follow satan go ahead...i didnt really get what u said but fine....i dont know what to think about this whole thing...satan is evil right? why follow evil? why kill people? why do such bad things?

[PearlMRR]

Satanism is a religion?re·li·gion ( P ) Pronunciation Key (r-ljn)
n.

Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe... so you think satan created us all? wow were evil :)

[PearlMRR]

Maybe i guess your right i should i have some respect for satanists :) lol ok but im just saying why would they support killing people and evil things like that

[morning_wood]

im atheist but i believe in a higher being. i just dont worship or follow it. too much ego. so ill end up burning in 'hell'. hah.

[PearlMRR]

I know im catholic but there could be a chance that people are lying for us for years that God exsists but i dont think that anymore because ive heard of alot of miracles that happened like then Mary appeared to those little kids in Europe or somthing like that

[morning_wood]

so? you ever here of merlin the enchanter? many people say they saw him do magic... and hes still known hundreds of years after his death. what if jesus is a scam and just a magic user? or a trickster?

my grandfather could heal people just like that, he was into white magic and healing. that doesnt make him a jesus. or prove god exists. even if its 'miracles'

[Myme]

Originally posted by PearlMRR+Nov 17 2005, 10:01 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PearlMRR @ Nov 17 2005, 10:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Myme@Nov 17 2005, 09:53 PM
People who go to church and do graffiti are retarded. Sitting in the hen doesn't make you a chicken.
:rolleyes: thats dumb so probaly 60% of people who do graffiti are retarded? [/b][/quote]
I doubt 60% of writers go to church.. besides almost 60% of stats are made up on the spot.

All i'm saying is, it is retarded to go out and fuck up people's propertly, willingly and knowing they're going to have to pay/sacrifice something to fix that wall, you're hurting someone that you don't even know or that hasn't even hurt you and then going to praise brotherly love and peace and bullshit? Unless it's like a parents-force-you-to-go kinda thing, then it's just stupid

[morning_wood]

word myme.


do unto thy fellow man what you would want them to do unto you.and i know MOST writers would get hardcore pissed off to get their house tagged or their vehicule, or anything they own for that matter

[PearlMRR]

I dont really know....i never heard of the merlin guy

[PearlMRR]

Why are so many people catholic and belive in god?

[PearlMRR]

Originally posted by Myme+Nov 17 2005, 10:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Myme @ Nov 17 2005, 10:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by PearlMRR@Nov 17 2005, 10:01 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Myme@Nov 17 2005, 09:53 PM
People who go to church and do graffiti are retarded. Sitting in the hen doesn't make you a chicken.
:rolleyes: thats dumb so probaly 60% of people who do graffiti are retarded?
I doubt 60% of writers go to church.. besides almost 60% of stats are made up on the spot.

All i'm saying is, it is retarded to go out and fuck up people's propertly, willingly and knowing they're going to have to pay/sacrifice something to fix that wall, you're hurting someone that you don't even know or that hasn't even hurt you and then going to praise brotherly love and peace and bullshit? Unless it's like a parents-force-you-to-go kinda thing, then it's just stupid [/b][/quote]
Yeah good point actually, I never go out and write on walls really, I guess you can say im a poser or whatever i dont care but there is alot of religious writers and gangsters and stuff... i dont get that

[morning_wood]

because people are sheep. they dont want to question life. they want easy well formatted answers. so the church stepped in seeing an opportunity to control and make money(another ofrm of control). and since people are followers they follow their parents lead... and the cycle perpetuates itself will lil fact or meaning needed to support it.

[PearlMRR]

then morning wood, who created the whole universe? it couldnt of just showed up here...there has to be somthing behind this..why are we beings? why do we have minds? why do we think like we do? why is there a sun, a moon, a earth? you could say the Bing Bang Theory but who created the bing bang theory?

[PearlMRR]

What happens when i die? do i just lose my scence of thought? :( i dont want to die

[PearlMRR]

maybe the church is a excuse for people not to kill eachother because if people didnt belive in God everyone would be killing eachother right?

[morning_wood]

religion is good for people. it gives them decent morals usually.

i hate religion based wars though.


i dont know what created all this. it would make sence that it was some higherbeing. but then who created him? its a question in a question.

[PearlMRR]

This is fucking hurting my mind

[Away]

ohgm ann my anyus ate my dog!

[morning_wood]

haha i used to get headaches thinking about god when i was 6 yrs old and the universe and all that shit...

ive jsut decided i dont need to know that yet so i dont bother thinking about it too hard

[PearlMRR]

Yeah i guess i still have some catholic in me, i used to goto church every sunday and now i kind of feel bad that i dont go and i feel bad whenever i say somthing mean about somone...i really dont know what to belive and i dont know my place in this world, i mean whats the point of us living?

[YANKNY-718]

Originally posted by DEKOR@Nov 17 2005, 07:55 PM
i understand ur point...
personaly, its not to go to church that matters....like honestly, i prefer worshiping god in my own way,.,.
YEAP same whit me.
but u need to go sometimes, is like whit your friends, you need to visit them once in a while

[Myme]

Originally posted by PearlMRR@Nov 17 2005, 10:41 PM
then morning wood, who created the whole universe? it couldnt of just showed up here...there has to be somthing behind this..why are we beings? why do we have minds? why do we think like we do? why is there a sun, a moon, a earth? you could say the Bing Bang Theory but who created the bing bang theory?
Not saying your opinion is wrong or anything, but people are so eager to find all the answers, where did we come from, how did we get here, why is life so complicated.. you can't have all the answers sometimes and that's why I think people turn to god. back in the days god was used as a form of explaining everything, nowadays we have science and technology to give us that.. don't be so desperate for answers that you have believe what a book says to be satisfied..

[PearlMRR]

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[morning_wood]

from what ive heard... thru experiences of my best friends and familly who have seen or delt with spirits etc (im not very sensitive to paranormal stuff, i believe in it but i dont sense it) we live our lifes to learn a lesson, and after we die we are put back into the main stream of the universe and are unified again.

we pay for what we did wrong on earth. i have heard from 2 bestfriends who both knew a certain guy that died very closely the same thing on how he had to pay for certain actions he did. and they dont know each other or even come from the same country, yet they both told me similar versions on his path after his death (he visited both of them etc) neways i wont go into details since this is all very personnal to the ones concerned...

but i have come to believe that we are alive to learn something fundamental to help us grow spiritually.

me i always joked i was on earth to tame my huge ego and arrogance and ive been told by a friend that that was why i was here. haha

its my arrogance that keeps me from really believing in a higher being. i dont like the concept of being controlled and shit.

[PearlMRR]

I would say that even if there isnt a god, i would still want people to goto church and belive in god so everyone is peaceful and not evil you know what i mean? if everyone turned to satanism then everyone would be killed, babys would be aborted, ect...reply please

[PearlMRR]

morning wood you are a very smart person i like how you think things up

[PearlMRR]

Wait So you belive in reincarnation kind of?

[morning_wood]

ya thats why im pro religion to a certain extent. it makes alot of people better beings. but at the same time it gives certain key figures too much authority over the life of the followers. people have mass suicided over religion, murdered etc...

all wich goes against my beliefs... life is the most sacred thing. i dont even kill mosquitos.. i find to kill something uselessly isnt good. ill kill to eat or in a fight etc. to survive. not by choice but because thats how we are created. but i try to minimize deaths. a mosquite loves its life as much as a human loves his. he has as much of a right to live as we do.

people actually have less of a right to live. we suicide. we voluntarily take what has been donated to us or we neglect it. that is proof that we have strayed very far from what we ideally should be. humans are filled with too much hatred. animals are still pure, you dont see a white dog kill a black dog cuz of its color. only humans are capable of true evil like that.

[morning_wood]

i have had a friend tell me you are reincarnated until you figure you life path out.

wich would be nirvana. u relive lives untill u achieve nirvana, or total enlightenment.

wich would make sense comparing to what i have heard others say... we are suppositivly all connected somehow... so to be reincarnated in another body isnt all that odd. you can go see specialists, they will hypnotize you (u have to believe and be willing of course) and make you relive your past lifes. they are all recorded in our 'soul' or whereever. and you can go back and see stuff that might help u understand what u have been doing wrong during so many lives, and help u get it right this time.

i knew this german girl who did those hypnotic sessions. she also self hypnotized herself and told me she had been mainly male asian warriors in past lifes. she was handicapped and has a twisted leg. and even if she was german she looked slightly asian, was a tomboy, and great at martial arts, even with her handicap. apparently you also have people who follow u... your mom could have been a past wife, or child etc. wich would explain why some people automaticly hate or love each other for no reason at all (because of past life history, sometimes a person that killed u in another life turns up to be a sibbling in a new life etc)

this is all very complex and subject to various opinions. im only talking from what ive heard. as ive said i cant feel or see this kind of stuff unfortunatly so i dont have any first hand experience.

[PearlMRR]

Yeah I with you on this.

to tell you the truth i rather be dead...its not like im trying to be a dumb emo kid who hates his life and stuff im just saying..

like i get pissed easily...in my mind i just hate everyone around me and i feel really bad about that, but i dont make a big deal out of it you know.

i just hate how everyone acts now..every kid has to dress cool to be cool and people are always making fun of homosexuals...i never say gay queer or fag anymore becuase i find it obnoxious.

i dont want to take my life because i know that somone gave me the gift to live and i just have to suck it up and stop being a stubborn asshole

[PearlMRR]

Do any of you feel the same sometimes?

[YANKNY-718]

Originally posted by PearlMRR@Nov 17 2005, 10:05 PM
morning wood you are a very smart person i like how you think things up
yeap, he is kool, i also like the way you think

[ASEL1DBL]

Originally posted by st3ve-ES@Nov 17 2005, 08:24 PM
i <3 jebus
lmao thats hella funny :lol:

[PearlMRR]

I know what you are saying and i think stronger of your opinion now

even though im only 15

[PearlMRR]

Lol YANKNY

[morning_wood]

trust me i wish i was dead also. im too much of a pussy to suicide, partially cuz i dont wana hurt ppl who love, cuz im afraid of making such a radical descision, and im afraid of what is after death. if hell DOES exist.. then id rather stay outta there for a few more years...

also i have heard that suicide is punished rather harshly after your death. its kinda like bitting the hand that feeds you. u are given a chance to achieve a higher understanding.

make the most out of life as u can. make it worth it.

now thats just preaching cuz i dont follow none of that shit. currently im without a job, 20 yrs old in a month, and dropped outta skool. no future.

so ya...

i dont HATE my life, but i dont see a point to it, and if i had the choice and it wouldnt hurt neone id rather not live it. hell i have been wishing since forever that i had never been born. haha

maybe you are trying too hard to find the meaning of life. stop looking for some great flashy sign that reads 'the secret to your life'...

the meaning of life is in the small things. the things that put a smile on your face, the things that give u nice memories, and especially the things that put a smile on the faces of people around you.

dont worry why you are alive. worry about enjoying it. who cares after all?

its like if u find a box with 50 cans... are u gonna sit around for 6 months wondering why it was left there? or are u gonna go paint and have a blast with free paint?

[YANKNY-718]

Originally posted by PearlMRR@Nov 17 2005, 10:15 PM
Yeah I with you on this.

to tell you the truth i rather be dead...its not like im trying to be a dumb emo kid who hates his life and stuff im just saying..

like i get pissed easily...in my mind i just hate everyone around me and i feel really bad about that, but i dont make a big deal out of it you know.

i just hate how everyone acts now..every kid has to dress cool to be cool and people are always making fun of homosexuals...i never say gay queer or fag anymore becuase i find it obnoxious.

i dont want to take my life because i know that somone gave me the gift to live and i just have to suck it up and stop being a stubborn asshole
wow, thats right homie, people in this days are so racist, they act like they were " hitler " or some shit you know what i mean, they all want people to look like them or look good, shit

[PearlMRR]

Morning wood thats what ive been meaning to say i would rather kill myself but i dont know if there is a hell and i dont want to go there all my life, and im too pusy to commit scuicide too i dont want to hurt anyone around me...

[morning_wood]

thruouight my school years i was a reject because i was poor and couldnt afford fashionable clothes and dressed at thrift shops.

haha funny when i think how i used to wish i had nike shoes etc as a kid.
but im happy i was poor and such. it opened my mind to another way of life i would have probably not noticed if not.

[badsanta170]

My reilgion is.


I DONT GIVE A SHIT.

[PearlMRR]

yeah im not poor but i dress in non-popular clothes i guess

im planning to drop out of high school too

i dont want to be rich when i grow up, im planning to play music with my friends ( i play the drums) idk i wanna just do somthing i would like

[YANKNY-718]

Originally posted by morning_wood@Nov 17 2005, 10:22 PM
trust me i wish i was dead also. im too much of a pussy to suicide, partially cuz i dont wana hurt ppl who love, cuz im afraid of making such a radical descision, and im afraid of what is after death. if hell DOES exist.. then id rather stay outta there for a few more years...

also i have heard that suicide is punished rather harshly after your death. its kinda like bitting the hand that feeds you. u are given a chance to achieve a higher understanding.

make the most out of life as u can. make it worth it.

now thats just preaching cuz i dont follow none of that shit. currently im without a job, 20 yrs old in a month, and dropped outta skool. no future.

so ya...

i dont HATE my life, but i dont see a point to it, and if i had the choice and it wouldnt hurt neone id rather not live it. hell i have been wishing since forever that i had never been born. haha

maybe you are trying too hard to find the meaning of life. stop looking for some great flashy sign that reads 'the secret to your life'...

the meaning of life is in the small things. the things that put a smile on your face, the things that give u nice memories, and especially the things that put a smile on the faces of people around you.

dont worry why you are alive. worry about enjoying it. who cares after all?

its like if u find a box with 50 cans... are u gonna sit around for 6 months wondering why it was left there? or are u gonna go paint and have a blast with free paint?
yeah. like my people always say " vive la vida compa, que alcavo es muy corta " it means " live your life homie, life is short " you know what i mean, don't waste time of thinking how we were created or something. life is short, learn about it, love the ones that love you, and even love the ones that hate you, don't give hate back, cuz thats all bullshit, if oyu hate some oen that hates you, i t will go on and on and on you know, and never stop.
so start to make a change in your life and hey people stop hating on others cuase they better than you or what ever.
cmon at the end of the day we all are the same.







and yeah go paint and have a blast whit free paint :D

[it-cant-rain-all-the-timelalala]

thats great but i assure you dont drop school...
youll have way much more opportunities to play drummz all your life

[morning_wood]

well i finished highskool, i was in an adult skool course.. did it for 2 years and quit 1 month before the end cuz i missed a few weeks of classes and was too unmotivated to go and talk to the skool to rearrange shit... haha

its not important to be rich... its important to enjoy life... and to make those close to you enjoy it too. i used to be all for world peace, helping out the poor kids etc... but im too selfish. i dont wana live like shit cuz im giving all my money to people who need it. i dont wana stop painting so some kid in africa can eat. i know its harsh. but im just honest about it. u are all the same.

so i think the important thing is to take care of the ones who are close to you and try and change their lives in a positive way.

if something is negative dont do it. try to live a life of no regrets. im still working on this... i should quit all my graff beef n shit... but ya... be positive!

[PearlMRR]

Thanks guys, im planning to not go to college though, im not planning to make alot of money when i grow up, i dont need money to make me happy

[PearlMRR]

yeah YANK and wood that seems cool

i guess im going to start making some changes

[morning_wood]

you dont need money to be happy... but it can help... like right now ive barely got enough to survive.. wich is okay im fine. but i have a friend thats in alot of financial shit... id love to just be able to hand her the 4000$ she owes (her bf took abunch of money and bounced n left her with all the shit)..

money is really evil... what people do for money... its pretty sickening. without money most of the worlds hate would suddenly dissapear. alot of the motivation as well unfortunatly.

[PearlMRR]

Well im going to bed, i will talk to you guys tommorrow (school tommorrow morning, ah fuck) ok so ill see you guys later ty

[YANKNY-718]

Originally posted by PearlMRR@Nov 17 2005, 10:36 PM
Well im going to bed, i will talk to you guys tommorrow (school tommorrow morning, ah fuck) ok so ill see you guys later ty
i got to go to school tomorrow in the morning too lol, but i'm watching " family guy " :lol:

[vegimite on toast]

Muslim.

[morning_wood]

liar.


ahah but my sister converted to muslim when she was 16 or so

[vegimite on toast]

I know how to pray, cept, I'm to lazy to do it 5 times a day, go to mosque and fast during to ramadan etc. To the point, i'm lazy.

[YANKNY-718]

oh by the way i'm catholic

[morning_wood]

oh veggie u are one of those 'ya im muslim but i dont practice'


haha i lvoe it when they say that... muslim but they drink, dont prey etc

[it-cant-rain-all-the-timelalala]

so you think all the prayer and etc... are not worth it... (your lazy)??
but do you believe in some basic principle of the muslim doctrine...
i mean about "god" and everything

[morning_wood]

hes just kidding cuz he goes to skool full of arabs

[vegimite on toast]

Bacially, I know how to. But I am not devoted enough.

[sicka than aidz]

CHURCH OF SKATAN *****!

[vegimite on toast]

^Ska. :)

[RingRing]

Fuck satan and his followers.....fuck all of you who are chill with ppl warshiping him .....oh and fuck Emo's

[DEKOR]

Originally posted by morning_wood@Nov 17 2005, 11:36 PM
you dont need money to be happy... but it can help... like right now ive barely got enough to survive.. wich is okay im fine. but i have a friend thats in alot of financial shit... id love to just be able to hand her the 4000$ she owes (her bf took abunch of money and bounced n left her with all the shit)..

money is really evil... what people do for money... its pretty sickening. without money most of the worlds hate would suddenly dissapear. alot of the motivation as well unfortunatly.
money is an intresting thing....
its not very complicated, in our society, any problem is dealt with cash...problemes of values are dealt with money, with a fine...all governments are basically corupted..they have corupted millions of dollars, and when a litlle graffiti company does abit of illegal money, they gona get fuked, and the guys gona b fuked all his life...you got money, you got power...

[Mute1]

Fuck religion in all forms shapes and sizes...iu wanna believe in god thats fine but why would u confirm to a specific religion with set guidelines and bullshit? Ppl just like to be a part of something.

[RingRing]

Originally posted by Mute1@Nov 18 2005, 01:36 AM
Fuck religion in all forms shapes and sizes...iu wanna believe in god thats fine but why would u confirm to a specific religion with set guidelines and bullshit? Ppl just like to be a part of something.
:angry: you have no idea.....dont say shit if you have no idea what religion is even about....judging by your stupidity and ignorance you obviously wouldnt understand :rolleyes:

[vegimite on toast]

You're so much easier to understand with the angry emoticon.

[snow2skate]

Religion was created as a guide line, It is not a real thing, There is no divine creator. I am athiest, I believe in evolution.

[Tony]

im a scientologist..



me and tom cruise kick it from time to time

[Mute1]

Originally posted by RingRing+Nov 18 2005, 01:41 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (RingRing @ Nov 18 2005, 01:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mute1@Nov 18 2005, 01:36 AM
Fuck religion in all forms shapes and sizes...iu wanna believe in god thats fine but why would u confirm to a specific religion with set guidelines and bullshit? Ppl just like to be a part of something.
:angry: you have no idea.....dont say shit if you have no idea what religion is even about....judging by your stupidity and ignorance you obviously wouldnt understand :rolleyes: [/b][/quote]
Hahah fuck u little kid i have a deeper understanding of life then u ever will...

and i agree with u snow2skate...evolution is where its at...this world came about by slow changes over time...the creator of the universe is not an entity, its nature itself...its a process...ppl just have a hard time with shit liek that so they personalize everything...mother nature, death, everything is wrapped into a nice humanlike package because thats wat we relate to. same shit with god..its just a comforting thought...

[vegimite on toast]

"...man creates religion, religion does not create man..."

[RingRing]

sigh* (shakes head)...w/e have it your way....i stick to religion with all i got.....it just makes me sick when shitheads mock what they have no idea about......but who cares eh??......these days religion doesnt seem to count for much....no wonder our society is so fucked and driven by hate and all that good stuff eh?
oh and mute 1....go run headfirst, really fast, into a brick wall....its good for you.......little kid.....LMAO.....w/e you say i'm not gonna beef with ne one cause there is no piont.

[snow2skate]

Originally posted by RingRing@Nov 18 2005, 02:03 AM
sigh* (shakes head)...w/e have it your way....i stick to religion with all i got.....it just makes me sick when shitheads mock what they have no idea about......but who cares eh??......these days religion doesnt seem to count for much....no wonder our society is so fucked and driven by hate and all that good stuff eh?
oh and mute 1....go run headfirst, really fast, into a brick wall....its good for you.......little kid.....LMAO.....w/e you say i'm not gonna beef with ne one cause there is no piont.
Ummmm... Just so you know, Most crimes are commited by people who beleive in a religion. And Satanists usually turn people bad. Satanism is the evil side of things. If your so against evil then why do you worship something that is pure evil?

What has religion done for you? NOTHING! all it has giving you is guidlines to live your life by. But us people who do not beleive that some magical entity created us out of thin air have learnt to create the guidlines for lives ourselves, Take a hold of our own lives, Not be told how to live it, by a book created by some person a few thousand years ago.

[RingRing]

Originally posted by snow2skate@Nov 18 2005, 02:08 AM
If your so against evil then why do you worship something that is pure evil?


how is being a catholic pure evil????

[sicka than aidz]

wait, is he all mad about my post?

[snow2skate]

Originally posted by RingRing+Nov 18 2005, 02:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (RingRing @ Nov 18 2005, 02:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-snow2skate@Nov 18 2005, 02:08 AM
If your so against evil then why do you worship something that is pure evil?


how is being a catholic pure evil???? [/b][/quote]
You said you were a Satanist, Not a catholic. They are 2 different things. Get your story straight kid.

[Cccp.aeroC]

first off, if your going to bash Satanism youd better know what it is..

read up on the Satanic Bible and then maybe you can understand that what you perseev (sp) as Satanic is nothing to what it really is. the concept of Satan came from the Catholic Church when it came to be the dominant religion. Paganism was the dominant before that and, much the same as Greek Mythology, had Gods for different aspects of life. the main God (Zeus, using the Greek Mythology as an example) was named Pan, and its Earth bound image used to identify it was a deer. The the Catholics came in and had to make the Pagans out to be the 'darker' side of the Catholic religion when in reality it had nothing to do with the Catholics. they made all of the Pagan Gods 'fallen' or 'evil' entities of the Catholic religion; all of the Pagan symbols to be the 'evil' symbols of the now 'evil' Pagan religion (such as the pentagram, five point star)

and if you know any sort of Astronomy you can find that the planet Venus makes a PERFECT 5 point star across the night sky in 8 year cycles.

Back to the Pagans - Pan, being the ruler of the fallen 'evil' Gods, remember his Earthly image? yeah a deer. Think about the paralelles there. Pan=Satan, deer=image of Satan.
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another thing about Satanism as it is known today, has nothing to do with the sacrafice of babies or animals and bizzare fucking ceremonies. in fact, it discourages all of that and in the Satanic Bible denounces it as evil. There are of course 'Satanists' that murder children and animals and shit like that, but they are not the people that the Church of Satan allows into. There are good and bad people in every religion. Zelots in every religion. people who hide behind religion to justify murders and shit like that.





phew, anyways - just wanted to get that out before people who are telling people not to bash their religion because they dont know, start bashing this religion without knowing fuck all about it...

and by the way - If you are a Catholic i highly recomend you to think about your religion, because chances are you are just following it blindly. Check the roots of the religion (the REAL roots) before committing yourselve fully, and that goes for all religions not just the Catholics.

[Cccp.aeroC]

and by the way, Satanism is probably the most real religion i have found thus far, because it does not nesseserily require you to worship Satan. you can take it how you want it, but i think that a better name for Satanism is Humanism. It doesnt set you up for failure and put the 'fear of ''God'' ' in you the same way Christianity does.

ex- 7 Deadly Sins

[DEKOR]

the fear of god?? u have been looking at mear's sketches too long haha...
how would u kno about dat if u dont believe in the religion urself....
people who worship god and go to church dont do it bcoz of fear...

[Cccp.aeroC]

Originally posted by snow2skate@Nov 18 2005, 01:48 AM
Religion was created as a guide line, It is not a real thing, There is no divine creator. I am athiest, I believe in evolution.
thats partly true. but if you think about it, religion was more created to bring people together, used as common interest and all that. the good, what i call the 'real' religions - such as the ones in Asia and Islam and all that, were created so that they could worship what they thought put us on this planet. it was a way to explain the unknown by not really explaining it haha, if that makes any sence.

the Catholic religion however is just plain evil, imo. it was created to create and maintain power. control the people and extort as much as possible. Tribute was a main factor in the creation of Cathlocism. They created as much fear as possible so as to maintain a constant state of fear among the people. If you really take it into account, technicly we should be eating just enough to sustain us for a few days before eating again just enough to sustain us for a few days, while not feeling good about ourselves or our accomplishments, providing we have any accomplishments because we should have no ambition or drive to do anything in life, because Greed is a Deadly Sin.

think about it haha :blink:

[Cccp.aeroC]

Originally posted by DEKOR@Nov 18 2005, 03:14 AM
the fear of god?? u have been looking at mear's sketches too long haha...
how would u kno about dat if u dont believe in the religion urself....
people who worship god and go to church dont do it bcoz of fear...
of course they do. they are afraid that God will not allow them into heaven if they dont. its been embedded into their (your) heads that if you dont worship God your going to hell. with Satan. all of which is a creation of the religion. Before religion do you think that Neanderthols were burning in hell or sipping wine in heaven?

[DEKOR]

da people who are really into catholism and follow the theory word by word, do not think da same way u do, dey feal grate for doing wat they doin...
(i aint one of them)
but good to c ur opinion...

[Cccp.aeroC]

by the way, im not a Satanist - and i do believe in a higher power. just not in the same conforming way that religions do. i beleive that there is an afterlife, a heaven and a hell, a good and an evil. I dont beleive in a singular entities such as God and Satan.

[DEKOR]

Originally posted by Cccp.aeroC+Nov 18 2005, 03:23 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Cccp.aeroC @ Nov 18 2005, 03:23 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-DEKOR@Nov 18 2005, 03:14 AM
the fear of god?? u have been looking at mear's sketches too long haha...
how would u kno about dat if u dont believe in the religion urself....
people who worship god and go to church dont do it bcoz of fear...
of course they do. they are afraid that God will not allow them into heaven if they dont. its been embedded into their (your) heads that if you dont worship God your going to hell. with Satan. all of which is a creation of the religion. Before religion do you think that Neanderthols were burning in hell or sipping wine in heaven? [/b][/quote]
have u thought dat mayb dey enjoy living in the good, sharing with others, loving...etc...
in times of sadness, when der friends and loved ones are ill, gods helps them...
its all about fate, not fear...

[Cccp.aeroC]

Originally posted by DEKOR@Nov 18 2005, 03:24 AM
da people who are really into catholism and follow the theory word by word, do not think da same way u do, dey feal grate for doing wat they doin...
(i aint one of them)
but good to c ur opinion...
oh ya im not saying at all that all or any of the Catholics are evil haha. to quote the Bible (yeah ironic) To every Man his own. what im saying is that the basis behind the religion was not created in the same spirit it is/could be being worshipped in today's society

[Cccp.aeroC]

Originally posted by DEKOR@Nov 18 2005, 03:26 AM

have u thought dat mayb dey enjoy living in the good, sharing with others, loving...etc...
in times of sadness, when der friends and loved ones are ill, gods helps them...
its all about fate, not fear...
yeah and thats awesome, but what im saying is that you can love, share, feel, hate and do all that WITHOUT religion too.

its all good that people get by doing what they are doing right now, because in the end thats all we got. one way or the other we're all dying and we're all going somewhere (hopefully)

there cant be an infinate amount of heavens for every single variation on every single religion. but then again there could, we'll never know until its too late haha.

[Live4TheWall]

Meh... Not a religious person. I really dont like the people that claim to know what a god (if there is any) would say on any situation.

[DEKOR]

well if god really exists (and i beleive he does...)
its very possible dat der is all dose heavens... ill meet u somewere ova der and we will talk about it den mate haha.

[kewlaid]

I don't fuck with religion. I fuck with reality.

[-AbSrD]

i couldn't care less, what you see is what you get, i'm sure there is a guiding light behind everything but i honestly doubt its an omnipotent figure. religion tends 2 just be a set of guidelines to live your life by, a.k.a common sense, you can be completely against religion and still know right from wrong, and satanism is wack as shit along with the rest of religion, i was born catholic but i hardly follow it. I think people today don't need religion or theory 2 believe in, however i think we need something that does not classify people and accepts all as one people. evil is very real it's just a matter of letting it get to you, and how you live your life... i dunno just my thoughts.

[Toy Clown]

This is y i dont think there is heaven and hell, If there is a heaven and hell then u only get one chance and then u have to spend eternity in heaven or hell,u get one chance to prove that ur worthy to get into heaven? and how did we learn about heaven and hell if u go there for eternity? People just want something they can believe in so they dont have to question it, they just wanna say "ok god made us and if wer good we get into heaven" I say believe wat u want and have fun, if u had fun in ur life and dont regret any thing then ur life was great. Dont follow wat a person that no one has seen and cant prove that he exists says, thats like saying my imaginary friend told me that if i steal a candy bar that i will be punished after i die, u wouldnt listen to him ud be like "Oh well hes just imaginary,I really want the candy"... u out grew ur imaginary friend because its something ur supposed to do, if u wer supposed to out grow god u would, think about it people just keep following eachother.


U go to school and get a job because thats wat every one before u did and its wat ur supposed to do. If a cool kid did something u did it right? Religion probably started when a "popular" person said "There is great god who made us all and he will tell us wat to do!" then every one said well he is popular he knows wats cool and wat we should do. Religion makes it so u want to get into heaven.... it makes ur life a mission to get into heaven... mayb life isnt a mission, mayb life is a place where ur supposed to enjoy everything and do stuff that makes u smile, but ppl follo so they follo their religion and they try to get into heaven then they teach their kids that they should too... if ppl stopped following every one would wonder wat wer doing on earth and just confuse themselves... basically religion makes it so they dont have to think for themselves they can just follo the "cool" kids and live in bliss.

These are my thoughts I dont care if u like them or not this is how I think...

[alive]

i worship the mods :wub:

[morning_wood]

wahhwahh alot of bullshit talk...

sooo heres some answers for ye fools! haha


the one saying what did religion ever do to you? it only gave you guidelines your a follwer blahblah.

you answered your own question. religion gave him guidelines. to be a better individual. whats wrong with that? what does society do? gives you laws and obligations to be a better individual. religion is just a more complete and effective law system. how many of us follow the law because we love our goverment and love cops? none. we do it because we are afraid of consequence. therefore we do it in a negative manner. we try to cheat as much as we can. however if we follow out of love (aka religion) then we wouldnt try to cheat or not abide to the rules. cuz we would WANT to follow. and thats very good for a society to have all its members walk in the same direction. im not saying all be clones, but im saying have the same values is always good. societies that are homogenous thrive alot better since there is less dispute over differences.


for the so called satanists. im happy to see you guys believe in god. ya. without a god, satan couldnt have been created. oh wait... so you didnt even know that. ya you really are a satanist huh?



evolution... the theory of evolution contradicts itself at the very source.
evolution means we change to be what is the best to survive in our enviroment.

example giraffes have long necks to eat the tender and more nourishing leafs at the top of trees, polar bears have fat skin and thick fur to survive the cold etc.
nice... in theory so far... its based upon the most fittest survive and the others die. and since only the strongest survive in the end thos 'strong' genes become overpowering and lead to an evolution in one direction.

in the case of the giraffe it would be short necked herbivores that tried to reach the top of trees... ones with the longer necks where getting better feeding (cuz alot of animals can reach lower bushes etc, so not much food left i suppose) and surviving more. so the dna that produces longer necks got more coded thru reproduction and they gradually got longer necks.

makes sense... or does it?

how about the transition period? like say where we come from the sea unto land... what about all those thousands of years where we where half sea half land creatures? the evolution in between being fit for sea and fit for land... a huge time lapse where we where not fit for sea and not fit for land either. how did we survive? see that evolution theory is lacking. it does not describe or have answers for the process. only for the beginning and the end product. might as well say god made us spontaneously evolve. hah.

[snow2skate]

Originally posted by Cccp.aeroC+Nov 18 2005, 03:23 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Cccp.aeroC @ Nov 18 2005, 03:23 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-DEKOR@Nov 18 2005, 03:14 AM
the fear of god?? u have been looking at mear's sketches too long haha...
how would u kno about dat if u dont believe in the religion urself....
people who worship god and go to church dont do it bcoz of fear...
of course they do. they are afraid that God will not allow them into heaven if they dont. its been embedded into their (your) heads that if you dont worship God your going to hell. with Satan. all of which is a creation of the religion. Before religion do you think that Neanderthols were burning in hell or sipping wine in heaven? [/b][/quote]
Yeah, But in Christianity, You can live your life how you want, and sin as much as you want, As long as you repent those sins before you die.

[morning_wood]

youre a fool to think that snow2skate. its mcuh more complex then that. yes if you repent you can be seen in a better light. but you will still pay for what you did no matter what. youll just be forgiven easier.

and as far as we can trace it back, religion has always been there.

[snow2skate]

Originally posted by morning_wood@Nov 18 2005, 02:32 PM
how about the transition period? like say where we come from the sea unto land... what about all those thousands of years where we where half sea half land creatures? the evolution in between being fit for sea and fit for land... a huge time lapse where we where not fit for sea and not fit for land either. how did we survive? see that evolution theory is lacking. it does not describe or have answers for the process. only for the beginning and the end product. might as well say god made us spontaneously evolve. hah.
Well, What we have evolved from is still not known, So that transition period between sea to land may have never happened. We could have evolved from land mammals. But yes, Evolution has not been fully proven yet, But there are more true facts in science about how we came to be, then there is in the bible. All there is in the bible is writing, A story. But in the real world, There are proven facts of life that we have learnt. Like if you looked at a skull from like 1000's and 1000's and 1000's of years ago, Near the cave man era, Our skulls were shaped much different, Thus showing that our bodies have evolved over time. Theyve found evodence of bones dating back to almost the dinosoar era.

[snow2skate]

Originally posted by morning_wood@Nov 18 2005, 02:38 PM
youre a fool to think that snow2skate. its mcuh more complex then that. yes if you repent you can be seen in a better light. but you will still pay for what you did no matter what. youll just be forgiven easier.

and as far as we can trace it back, religion has always been there.
I dont follow that religion, I was just stating one of the religions. There are so many religion's in this world, How can a person truely know that there's is the true one? They cant. But people shouldnt be choosing religion over which one they think is the one that created them. They should be choosing a religion, That they think will help them succeed in life and become a good person.
That's why I choose athism, I set my own rules in life to live by, that I think will surfice to a good life in the end.

[morning_wood]

to answer your posts..

science has more prood right? so i guess i should trust scientest. hum. once they told us the world was flat. science told us that. it was so evident. i duno. you still trust science? haha its a bunch of bullshit. they really dont know as much as theyd liketo think. they are constantly spitting out theories. you know what a theorie is? its something that sounds real but hasnt been proven. like evolution. so in truth. they really dont have a fucking clue. they sit around and come up with 'probable' stories and feed them to the media as if it was true. you read in kids books that a meteorite the size of mount everest hit the earth and killed all the dinosaurs. yet that is TOTALLY unproven. just a few years ago they started saying raptor dinosaurs actually had fucking fur. goes to show how much they know.

they cant even tell with certainty what things that old looked like so dont expect them to tell you how they changed etc.

so ya they found skulls that ressemble humans but are different. looking at a monkey skull from nowadays... ya looks like a human skull.. but different... *clapclap* maybe they are looking at prehistoric monkey for all they know.

our ADN is closer to fucking pigs then it is to chimpanzees. did you know that? sounds odd if we evolved from monkeys.

once again bone evidence. doesnt mean it was human bones. its near impossible to tell what they belonged to, similar doesnt mean the same.


and sure the bible is just a story. but did you know that alot of what is said in the bible has about as much 'proof' then these scientific theories. they have found layers of sediments deep under the surface in some areas that are created when a part of the earth has a sea or great mass of water over it. this is in areas that are way bove the sea level nowadays... also this layer could corresponds to about the time where in the bible god flooded earth, noahs ark blahblah. wether its gods making or not during some period of time the earth appears to have been flooded.

so whataver. im not saying one is wrong or right, im saying we have no fucking clue, so we should stop getting so worked up over possibilities and wishes.





yes there are alot of religions in the world. study a few and youll realize they are all the same with minor differences. so in the end follow any religion almost and youll get to the same end. higher enlightentment and a fufulling life. im talking about the bare core of religions, not all the man made power tripping bullshit added on.


will help them succeed in life AND become a better person? thats the same thing. being a better person is the ONLY way to succeed in life. lifes ultimate success is having been the best you could be and having lived a full positive life.

religion is there to help you set your own rules because of humans incapacity in general to make the right descisions for themselves. are you sure you are really smart or wataver enough to choose what is really good for you? im not so sure. maybe you are. alot of us get caught up being arrogant and thinking we know what is best. wich is so untrue. im one of those people, im very arrogant and yet i still know i am not choosing the best path for myself. but most probably ill keep on on my negative path cuz im arrogant and selfish.

[snow2skate]

Actually, Science isnt all theories, they know that the bomes belonged to humans. And yes people once thought the world was flat, But science was not as advanced as it is today, They did not have computer's, or dna testing, or anything of the sort. Science back them, was all Seeing is beleiving, And since the could not go into space, or even fly for that matter, The world looked flat to them. But we can fly, and can go into space, So we know the earth's round as a fact. And yes scientists dont know exactly what dinosaurs looked like, but they have the bones, so they can create the general shape of them. Science has evolved from the olden days, We are able to find out so much more with technology.

But, Im not gonna argue about this anymore, Everyone has there opinions about things in life, And thats what there gonna stick with, So there;s not point to argue about it.

[morning_wood]

arguying is for kids. this is a debate. and theres always a point to a debate. its to find new answers and explore the possibilities.


no sciece isnt all theories. of course not. go to the beach. look at the flat horizon. you will definatly notice its curved. thats why some ppl said the world was around and got hanged for it. its not that they couldnt find out its they didnt want the truth. much of that is tainting science today as well.

the guy who finally proved the world was round didnt fly or go in space. he used sun shadows and mathematics. not only he proved the world was round he also calculated how big the planet was. using his head and shadows down a water well. doest take computers and all this bullshit to prove alot of things. it takes brains.

but people dont want to see the truth, or dont know how to look for it.


and yes science is WAY more advanced today. yesterdays scientist look like fools in our eyes most of the time. so guess what todays scientists are gonna look like in the eyes of tomorrows scientists... thats right. fools.

few scientists are geniuses or people who really invent or discover something great. some greeks that lived 5 thousand years ago invented shit that we still are taught in school today. and that the avergae person doesnt even know.

so time is relative...

im just saying dont run around believing everyting a scientest says, especially not the theories. theories are not a solid base in a debate.

[Chaka911]

i didnt expect this thread to blow up like this... And i said i dont believe in god because i dont belive the teachings of religion as god is potrayed. I dont believe is the greatest, wisest mother fucker in the universe. And satan isnt evil. He is said to be evil but isnt. Or at least thats what i belive. And P.S. why dont you look shit up before talking about my beliefes,

[snow2skate]

Originally posted by morning_wood@Nov 18 2005, 03:32 PM
arguying is for kids. this is a debate. and theres always a point to a debate. its to find new answers and explore the possibilities.


no sciece isnt all theories. of course not. go to the beach. look at the flat horizon. you will definatly notice its curved. thats why some ppl said the world was around and got hanged for it. its not that they couldnt find out its they didnt want the truth. much of that is tainting science today as well.

the guy who finally proved the world was round didnt fly or go in space. he used sun shadows and mathematics. not only he proved the world was round he also calculated how big the planet was. using his head and shadows down a water well. doest take computers and all this bullshit to prove alot of things. it takes brains.

but people dont want to see the truth, or dont know how to look for it.


and yes science is WAY more advanced today. yesterdays scientist look like fools in our eyes most of the time. so guess what todays scientists are gonna look like in the eyes of tomorrows scientists... thats right. fools.

few scientists are geniuses or people who really invent or discover something great. some greeks that lived 5 thousand years ago invented shit that we still are taught in school today. and that the avergae person doesnt even know.

so time is relative...

im just saying dont run around believing everyting a scientest says, especially not the theories. theories are not a solid base in a debate.
I know, I only beleive facts.

[morning_wood]

but often what is said to be or what appears to be facts is proven wrong abit later on.

some things can be said to be facts like 1+2= 3. but then again maths have been torn down and rebuilt in the past because of new findings.

chaka: you are just pretty stupid and say u believe in shit and what not, yet you have nothing to back up your so called beliefs, you jsut say shit randomnly and 'believe' what ever you want to believe.

explain to me why the devil isnt evil? and u dont believe in god as the supreme creator? ok then you dont believe in the devil. god created the devil. idiot.

[snow2skate]

Lots of religions are also money grabbing things these days. Some of the values of religion have just been thrown away with the delining morality of civilization.

[ACTION NEWS...]

While science may be wrong, I believe it has more credibility than someone going "THERE IS A BIG MAN UP IN TEH SKY MAKIN STUFF HAPPEN" (Paraphrasing). Oh, and Morning, PM me.

[Chaka911]

alrite. you have the right to call me a fool. I should have fully explained my views. Research satanism if i dont fully explain this. Satanism is the belief that GOD him self is the one who fools and dishonors his followers. Satanism Is the religion with actual contact between your self and others. Satanists meditate and take in energy and use this energy to focus our minds and gain a stronger aura. Christianty is something to belive in but u have no proof that god himself exists. Satan isnt who you think he is. He is actually a fallen angel that decided to make himself a god. Demons are also good (and real if anyone has encountered a demon or spirit you know) there are bad demons. The ones that look disfigured and are phisicaly scary. There a lower order of demons who serve satan in hell. Goetic demons are the original egyptian gods who by satan were telopathicly given the ideas and plans to genetically enhance them selves to become "super human".
This all may sound like a load of shit but its what i belive. There is an equal amount of bullshit in the bible.

[morning_wood]

cuz i guess saying 'WE COME FROM LIL MICROSCOPIC ONE CELLED THINGAMAJIGS!!!' is more convincing?

neways.. people need to understand science and religion are not mutually exclusive.

bible says: god created man from dirt.

science says: man evolved from tiny microscopic one celled organisms.

now to the average dude living 2000 yrs ago whats microscopic? whats a cell? errr he dont know. so saying dirt is something he will understand and relate to.

[Alyte]

Originally posted by AMAZ tbscrew@Nov 17 2005, 08:53 PM
^^^wuts it matter <_<...if all the shit they say is true...god forgives us all and we all end up in heaven..thats wut the effin bible says

i swear...if we die and we dont go 2 heaven or hell...and all this shit is a lie...if u do the math like if u go 2 chruch all the times that u have 2 and shit..u waste half ur life


^^now isnt that a waste of life.... =\
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lol. people dont know anything. the bible DOES not say that we all go to heaven. it says that we all DESERVE hell. if you're referring to john 3:16, it says "for God so loved the world that he gave his one and only son so that those who believe in him shall not perish but have eternal life"

umm frick...so much stuff to reply to..

the whole catholic communion blah blah blah stuff is all optional, basically, you dont need any of it to get to heaven. christianity isnt really a religion, since it wasnt started by man but by God (jesus), but catholoicism (?) is a religion, attached onto christianity. By goodies i mean that you want to get to heaven, but you dont want to devote your entire life to christ.

Writing is a crime, and a sin, since a) its not your property (usually... :ph34r:) and B) its against the laws, and those laws dont contradict god's laws.

Who made God? God exists outside of time, he doesnt need anyone to make him. your puny human intellect is insuffiecent to understand this, like many things.

"RingRing", shut the heck up. you'll never do any good with that attitude.
"have some 6463ing decensy for crying outloud.....i outta wash your dirty mouths with soap!!!" I wouldnt be talking. STOP SWEARING. "and those who are perverted in thier language fall to evil" - Prov. 17:20

Ugh. you people dont understand satanism. Satanism is where you live for physical pleasures etc. and you live for you, with no regard for tomorrow or the day after your death. thats why they invert the pentragram. the five points stand for fire, earth, water, air and spirit. the top one is spirit, so they put it in the lowest position, since they dont like it.

evolution...lol...carbon dating and the string theory are whacked up.
snow2skate, it was thin dust, not air, lol.

"and by the way - If you are a Catholic i highly recomend you to think about your religion, because chances are you are just following it blindly. Check the roots of the religion (the REAL roots) before committing yourselve fully, and that goes for all religions not just the Catholics."

totally true. if you catholics wouldnt mind be bible thumping you, i'd love to give you some scriptures.
the bible does tell you to fear God.

"Yeah, But in Christianity, You can live your life how you want, and sin as much as you want, As long as you repent those sins before you die. " you dont know anything about christianity.

morning wood, you know your crap. i admire that. "so guess what todays scientists are gonna look like in the eyes of tomorrows scientists... thats right. fools." yeah, in the future people will probably look back at evolution and laugh.

[Chaka911]

Alyte... your a fucking genius. I mean that was the most intelligent thing i have ever read.... nice fucking job you know alot...

[Alyte]

Originally posted by Chaka911@Nov 18 2005, 05:34 PM
Alyte... your a 646457 genius. I mean that was the most intelligent thing i have ever read.... nice 76573 job you know alot...
thank you, so much. i used to really suck at telling people stuff about religion..but yeah, my parents never told me "believe this and this and this" so i had to go out and see it all for myself. and i almost went insane. i highly recomend it.

[C H E N Z O]

catholic and proud ya radges.

P.I P.I P.I.R.A

[snow2skate]

Originally posted by Alyte+Nov 18 2005, 05:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Alyte @ Nov 18 2005, 05:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-AMAZ tbscrew@Nov 17 2005, 08:53 PM
^^^wuts it matter <_<...if all the shit they say is true...god forgives us all and we all end up in heaven..thats wut the effin bible says

i swear...if we die and we dont go 2 heaven or hell...and all this shit is a lie...if u do the math like if u go 2 chruch all the times that u have 2 and shit..u waste half ur life


^^now isnt that a waste of life.... =\
Huge post warning. read it all...or else

lol. people dont know anything. the bible DOES not say that we all go to heaven. it says that we all DESERVE hell. if you're referring to john 3:16, it says "for God so loved the world that he gave his one and only son so that those who believe in him shall not perish but have eternal life"

umm frick...so much stuff to reply to..

the whole catholic communion blah blah blah stuff is all optional, basically, you dont need any of it to get to heaven. christianity isnt really a religion, since it wasnt started by man but by God (jesus), but catholoicism (?) is a religion, attached onto christianity. By goodies i mean that you want to get to heaven, but you dont want to devote your entire life to christ.

Writing is a crime, and a sin, since a) its not your property (usually... :ph34r:) and B) its against the laws, and those laws dont contradict god's laws.

Who made God? God exists outside of time, he doesnt need anyone to make him. your puny human intellect is insuffiecent to understand this, like many things.

"RingRing", shut the heck up. you'll never do any good with that attitude.
"have some 6463ing decensy for crying outloud.....i outta wash your dirty mouths with soap!!!" I wouldnt be talking. STOP SWEARING. "and those who are perverted in thier language fall to evil" - Prov. 17:20

Ugh. you people dont understand satanism. Satanism is where you live for physical pleasures etc. and you live for you, with no regard for tomorrow or the day after your death. thats why they invert the pentragram. the five points stand for fire, earth, water, air and spirit. the top one is spirit, so they put it in the lowest position, since they dont like it.

evolution...lol...carbon dating and the string theory are whacked up.
snow2skate, it was thin dust, not air, lol.

"and by the way - If you are a Catholic i highly recomend you to think about your religion, because chances are you are just following it blindly. Check the roots of the religion (the REAL roots) before committing yourselve fully, and that goes for all religions not just the Catholics."

totally true. if you catholics wouldnt mind be bible thumping you, i'd love to give you some scriptures.
the bible does tell you to fear God.

"Yeah, But in Christianity, You can live your life how you want, and sin as much as you want, As long as you repent those sins before you die. " you dont know anything about christianity.

morning wood, you know your crap. i admire that. "so guess what todays scientists are gonna look like in the eyes of tomorrows scientists... thats right. fools." yeah, in the future people will probably look back at evolution and laugh. [/b][/quote]
Your stupid. :lol: Our puny minds are insufficient to comprehend how god was made? Thats just bullshit you people make up to make your religions sound more factual then it really is. Everything is made up of something, which is a proven fact in this world. If god were real, He would have to be made up of something, And if he was made up of something, It would also have to be a complex dna makeup for him to speak and think like humans. MY STICKY KEYES FOR WINDOWS TURNED ON SO IM NEED TO RESTART MY COMPUTER HAHA<< FUCK I HATE WINDOWS>> <_<

[morning_wood]

everything is made of something? proven fact?i think not.

they are discovering new elements all the time. some things are so small and obscure the only way we know they exist is because of how they affect things we know about. we cant actually see these things, we jsut know they are there by their actions on other things.

so dont act like we know shit all about what our universe is made of.

somethings like blackholes exist and all we know is 'something' takes everything and makes it dissapear. we have NO clue WHAT a black hole is made of. only a lil idea on what it DOES.

[morning_wood]

oh i forgot a few points... dna? haha have no idea what dna is do you?

go do a research on dna. haha

and our puny minds. you cant even comprehend a notion like infinity. no human can. or a notion of something as long as a lightyear. most humans cant even totally comprehend a distance like a mile.

[Alyte]

Originally posted by snow2skate@Nov 18 2005, 05:50 PM
Your stupid. Our puny minds are insufficient to comprehend how god was made? Thats just bullshit you people make up to make your religions sound more factual then it really is. Everything is made up of something, which is a proven fact in this world. If god were real, He would have to be made up of something, And if he was made up of something, It would also have to be a complex dna makeup for him to speak and think like humans. MY STICKY KEYES FOR WINDOWS TURNED ON SO IM NEED TO RESTART MY COMPUTER HAHA<< FUCK I HATE WINDOWS>>
haha. then maybe you'd like to explain to me the string theory and each of the extra dimensions it needs to exist to be true. Everything is made up something? what about light? light is a particle, but isnt a particle. or was i just hallucinating in science class...okay, buddy. there are 2 worlds. spiritual and physical. they are interlinked. God is in the spiritual. we are in the physical. what applies to us, doesnt apply to Him. lol. quit pressing shift.

[Alyte]

funny thing about dna...did anybody hear about what Antony Flew decided while he was researching and crap, a few years ago? go look it up. DNA, the neccessity of life, is beyond human comprehension.

[snow2skate]

Light is made of something, Just cause we havnt figured out what something is made up of yet, does not mean it isnt made of something. Only time can end the arguemtn between religion and science. probly take 1000's more years until the truth is reveiled, but until then I ghuess we just have to wait.





















(Isnt the rapture supposed to happen in a year or 2 or something like that? haha)

[Havoc411]

if god was real the bears wouldnt have eaten my family....

[Havoc411]

oh and light is energy that moves in a sine wave pattern.

[morning_wood]

what argument between religion and science? they can both exist side by side. many scientist where religious

[vegimite on toast]

Different strokes for different folks. Why can't you just stop argueing over something that neither side is going to mutually agree on. You're both right...now shut up.

[Havoc411]

shut the fuck up vegi, this is why youll never get your movie


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
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[snow2skate]

Originally posted by morning_wood@Nov 18 2005, 06:13 PM
what argument between religion and science? they can both exist side by side. many scientist where religious
Ummm,,, As in science, That we were created by evolution. And by Religion, As in we were created by god :rolleyes: Both forms of creation cant co exist, One is right and one is wrong, And I was stating that only time can tell.

[Havoc411]

the the fuck up snow, thats why you have an office chair in your sig, more like oraphice chair!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
http://lavender.fortunecity.com/elystan/416/dkimages/images/pl/evil_laugh1.JPG

[Chaka911]

i have a question. Any athiests can answer this. I was an athiest for about 3 years and while i was there was a huge contriversy over the pledge of allegence in schools. WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS... I mean if u dont belive in god that doesnt mean ur kids cant belive in god. I mean i just said the words, They didnt have any meaning to me (in god we trust) does anyone else find this fucking retarded?

[morning_wood]

Originally posted by snow2skate+Nov 18 2005, 06:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (snow2skate @ Nov 18 2005, 06:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-morning_wood@Nov 18 2005, 06:13 PM
what argument between religion and science? they can both exist side by side. many scientist where religious
Ummm,,, As in science, That we were created by evolution. And by Religion, As in we were created by god :rolleyes: Both forms of creation cant co exist, One is right and one is wrong, And I was stating that only time can tell. [/b][/quote]
are you really stupid or do you jsut pretend to be?


DARWINS THEORY OF EVOLUTION IS JUST THAT... A FUCKING T-H-O-R-Y!!!


GET ITTTT????!?!?!? ITS NOT PROVED TO BE TRUE. IT IS NOT A FACT. IT IS A THEEEOOORRRRY.


i fucking hope i dont have to tell another dimwitted idiot that again. in this thread at least.


it being a theory, even if its popularly accepted, is nothing more then a POSSIBILTY WITH NO SOLID PROOF.

so. science might one day prove that god exists. or maybe not. i dont know i dont know if god exists or not.

but im saying that religion and science CAN live side by side without any beef. even if god doesnt exist most of you fools are better off with religion cause really, you guys cant think for your own. and id rather see you blindlessly follow some religion then to follow the mainstream fashions and mtv.

[Alyte]

yeah, canadians always complain that it says "God" on american, i repeat, american money. *GASP* even though its in thier national anthem...and charter of rights...and other stuff

[snow2skate]

There's a pledge of allegence in schools in the us? Wouldnt that be wrong, Seeing as how people of all different religions go to schools. Like hindu's and the japanese kind and stuff?

[Havoc411]

its more of a pledge to the country than it is to god. and i say it in the essence (sp) that its an oath to my country, not to god. cause quite frankly i like it here

[morning_wood]

Originally posted by Chaka911@Nov 18 2005, 06:24 PM
i have a question. Any athiests can answer this. I was an athiest for about 3 years and while i was there was a huge contriversy over the pledge of allegence in schools. WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS... I mean if u dont belive in god that doesnt mean ur kids cant belive in god. I mean i just said the words, They didnt have any meaning to me (in god we trust) does anyone else find this fucking retarded?
i find you are fucking retarded lol.

the pledge of allegiance means alot. or it should neways.

to pledge an oath in something you dont believe in is very wrong. when i lieved in the states i got up but didnt say the words. by sister often got kicked out of class cuz she refused to even get up (she was 10-11 at the time). she said she was canadian and refused to pledge allegiance to another country. wich is totally normal.

it shouldnt be part of a liberal country. it shouldnt be on the money. or so intricatly based into the law system. things like that prove once again that the united states liberty is a big hoax. they do NOT have anything near freedom.

[Alyte]

yeah, im thinking that if people werent stupid, and because people are stupid, communism would be better, as long as the leader wasnt screwed up.

[morning_wood]

Originally posted by snow2skate@Nov 18 2005, 06:26 PM
There's a pledge of allegence in schools in the us? Wouldnt that be wrong, Seeing as how people of all different religions go to schools. Like hindu's and the japanese kind and stuff?
once again u prove your ignorance... is it some kinda hobby of yours?

like hindus and japaneese and stuff. hindouism is a religion.. but japaneese? last iheard japaneese was one of the most atheist countries in the world. i really didnt know that they had a religion named after them... hahaha


alyte:and what are the chances of a leader not being scewed up? nil. or if he wasnt hed get shot and replaced by one that is.. haha

sadsad wrld we live in haah

[snow2skate]

Originally posted by morning_wood+Nov 18 2005, 06:34 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (morning_wood @ Nov 18 2005, 06:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-snow2skate@Nov 18 2005, 06:26 PM
There's a pledge of allegence in schools in the us? Wouldnt that be wrong, Seeing as how people of all different religions go to schools. Like hindu's and the japanese kind and stuff?
once again u prove your ignorance... is it some kinda hobby of yours?

like hindus and japaneese and stuff. hindouism is a religion.. but japaneese? last iheard japaneese was one of the most atheist countries in the world. i really didnt know that they had a religion named after them... hahaha
[/b][/quote]
I know hindus a religion thats why I said it :rolleyes: , I just dont know what the religions of the japanese and other people are. I know that the japanese have a religion, I heard it somewhere, I just forgot it.

[Alyte]

yeah, really.lol. as i was typing that i was thinking about how in ecclisastes it says that politics are usless...i dont remember what it says, something along the lines of "after a good king comes to power, the younger generation will dislike him and force him out of power. this too, is meaningless"

bah. stupid world.

[that_guy]

“how about the transition period? like say where we come from the sea unto land... what about all those thousands of years where we where half sea half land creatures? the evolution in between being fit for sea and fit for land... a huge time lapse where we where not fit for sea and not fit for land either. how did we survive? see that evolution theory is lacking. it does not describe or have answers for the process. only for the beginning and the end product. might as well say god made us spontaneously evolve. hah.�—morning wood

In the in between phase animals are supposed to have had both air and water breathing capabilities. Then the ones who stay on land slowly lose their water capabilities because they are aren’t using them, and further develop their land skills. I just think we’re not allowed to see the process yet. If there even is one. Maybe its just incredibly slow. Maybe all us creatures have like internal blueprints(DNA?) for what we will build ourselves to be, and we can will these blueprints to change when the need arises. But I’m just making this up.

Humans of 2000 years ago were apparently smaller. Like 4’9 as an average adult male. They’ve found perfectly preserved bodies(hair skin clothes and everything) from that time period in [European?]bogs.

As for religion I dunno if we need it or not. Probably not. When people are so sure that they’re right and the other is wrong they tend to do stupid things. I think we just need a better understanding and that’s about it. Ive seen and experienced enough weird shit for me to know that there’s more to this world than most atheists think there is.

What do you guys think of the idea of the dream world being just as real as this one? Cuz our brains usually can’t tell the difference when we’re dreaming(unless we get “lucid�). And good dreamers can actually dream things every bit as vividly as in “real� life, only do more wild things.

Some physicists(and ancient cultures) say that there’s supposed to be 9 dimentions of existence. What you guys think of that?

Chaka911— that’s fucking interesting. Especially the Egypt part. So basically satan is a small part of the great spirit that betrayed the great spirit cuz he didn’t like how he was running things…or no hes an angel. what are angels in Satanism? Exceptionally good people? Or more like spirits? I kinda think I internally have a demon that just wont leave me on its own but maybe that’s my excuse…. Neway even in that order of things, it still seems like satan is inherently selfish and trying to do bad things. Egyptian pharaohs were fucked up!

“Everything is made up of something, which is a proven fact in this world.�
All we “know� is that all matter is made of energy patterns in space, we haven’t gone much further into energy. But apparently they kinda blink in and out of existence, presumably into other dimentions.

[ACTION NEWS...]

Originally posted by snow2skate+Nov 18 2005, 06:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (snow2skate @ Nov 18 2005, 06:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by morning_wood@Nov 18 2005, 06:34 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-snow2skate@Nov 18 2005, 06:26 PM
There's a pledge of allegence in schools in the us? Wouldnt that be wrong, Seeing as how people of all different religions go to schools. Like hindu's and the japanese kind and stuff?
once again u prove your ignorance... is it some kinda hobby of yours?

like hindus and japaneese and stuff. hindouism is a religion.. but japaneese? last iheard japaneese was one of the most atheist countries in the world. i really didnt know that they had a religion named after them... hahaha

I know hindus a religion thats why I said it :rolleyes: , I just dont know what the religions of the japanese and other people are. I know that the japanese have a religion, I heard it somewhere, I just forgot it. [/b][/quote]
MUTHAFUCKIN' SHINTO, BIATCH.

[snow2skate]

Originally posted by that_guy@Nov 18 2005, 06:45 PM
“how about the transition period? like say where we come from the sea unto land... what about all those thousands of years where we where half sea half land creatures? the evolution in between being fit for sea and fit for land... a huge time lapse where we where not fit for sea and not fit for land either. how did we survive? see that evolution theory is lacking. it does not describe or have answers for the process. only for the beginning and the end product. might as well say god made us spontaneously evolve. hah.�—morning wood

In the in between phase animals are supposed to have had both air and water breathing capabilities. Then the ones who stay on land slowly lose their water capabilities because they are aren’t using them, and further develop their land skills. I just think we’re not allowed to see the process yet. If there even is one. Maybe its just incredibly slow. Maybe all us creatures have like internal blueprints(DNA?) for what we will build ourselves to be, and we can will these blueprints to change when the need arises. But I’m just making this up.

Humans of 2000 years ago were apparently smaller. Like 4’9 as an average adult male. They’ve found perfectly preserved bodies(hair skin clothes and everything) from that time period in [European?]bogs.

As for religion I dunno if we need it or not. Probably not. When people are so sure that they’re right and the other is wrong they tend to do stupid things. I think we just need a better understanding and that’s about it. Ive seen and experienced enough weird shit for me to know that there’s more to this world than most atheists think there is.

What do you guys think of the idea of the dream world being just as real as this one? Cuz our brains usually can’t tell the difference when we’re dreaming(unless we get “lucid�). And good dreamers can actually dream things every bit as vividly as in “real� life, only do more wild things.

Some physicists(and ancient cultures) say that there’s supposed to be 9 dimentions of existence. What you guys think of that?

Chaka911— that’s fucking interesting. Especially the Egypt part. So basically satan is a small part of the great spirit that betrayed the great spirit cuz he didn’t like how he was running things…or no hes an angel. what are angels in Satanism? Exceptionally good people? Or more like spirits? I kinda think I internally have a demon that just wont leave me on its own but maybe that’s my excuse…. Neway even in that order of things, it still seems like satan is inherently selfish and trying to do bad things. Egyptian pharaohs were fucked up!

“Everything is made up of something, which is a proven fact in this world.�
All we “know� is that all matter is made of energy patterns in space, we haven’t gone much further into energy. But apparently they kinda blink in and out of existence, presumably into other dimentions.
There, Finally something smart posted.

[morning_wood]

that_guy:

possible, im not saying we didnt evolve, i am kinda for that theory, im jsut saying we shouldnt jump to conclusion too quick, wich is why i was showing its weak points.

ya people where smaller. also started working ALOT younger and less good nutrition. both have proven to stunt growth.

i totally agree that we dont or more like we shouldnt need religion. however i think it can work wonders on masses of people who arent very enlightened. it can also do massive damage, proof of that is happening right now, people using the muslim religion as an excuse to kill...

i believe there is a higher plane of existance, that some people can see or feel or communicate with during their lifes on earth, but that is obscured to most of us for some reason. if we are on earth to learn a lesson then it would make sense that we dont see that higher level. it would be detrimental to our learning process

[JadedSketches]

Fuck organised religion.
Personal rules and morals are where its at.

[Alyte]

haha^ keep listening to your science teacher

they also found noah's ark and chariots and crap in the red sea...

(intended and aimed at snow)

[morning_wood]

see personal rules and morals are fine in theory. just as communism is.

but how many of you have the inner strenght to go thru with it?
you are all writers. so you dont just there.

wether graffiti really damages other peoples property or not is irrelevent., you anger people. to a very large extent. for that reason alone if you had high morals you wouldnt do graffiti. out of respect for people and their emotions.

[snow2skate]

Originally posted by Alyte@Nov 18 2005, 07:14 PM
haha^ keep listening to your science teacher

they also found noah's ark and chariots and crap in the red sea...

(intended and aimed at snow)
Omg, they found chariots and crap and a large boat in the sea. Big fukn deal, They found chariots in rome, and we find crap in our toilets. And sunken boats all over the world. They have no proof that its the ark, All they know is its a large boat. Dont beleive everything you see on tv :rolleyes:

[Alyte]

Originally posted by morning_wood@Nov 18 2005, 07:17 PM
see personal rules and morals are fine in theory. just as communism is.

And the color theory!

"Omg, they found chariots and crap and a large boat in the sea. Big fukn deal, They found chariots in rome, and we find crap in our toilets. And sunken boats all over the world. They have no proof that its the ark, All they know is its a large boat. Dont beleive everything you see on tv "

yeah....cuz, you know, EVERYBODY tries to ride across the water with a horse! and dont you think its strange that moses wrote down the exact dimensions of the ark that noah made, the dimensions that god told him to make it. and is it just a conincidence that these dimensions have the same proportions of length vs. width that have been proven today to offer the best stability on seafaring vessels? hmmm...

[JadedSketches]

Originally posted by morning_wood@Nov 18 2005, 07:17 PM
. for that reason alone if you had high morals you wouldnt do graffiti. out of respect for people and their emotions.
See heres the thing,I do have morals,but I have weird ones..
Some shit,like stealing from someones house,im agaisnt,but stealing from walmart is okay in my book.
And fuck it if people dont like graffiti,its for those few individuals who do,its for them.
Its for that kid who likes looking at the pretty colours on the wall.

[Alyte]

the problem is that people could just as easily say that killing black people is okay but killing indonesians isnt.

[morning_wood]

then your morals are biased and wrong for society as a whole. you could use a religion to set you on the straight path towards higher enlightenment.

[snow2skate]

Originally posted by Alyte+Nov 18 2005, 07:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Alyte @ Nov 18 2005, 07:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-morning_wood@Nov 18 2005, 07:17 PM
see personal rules and morals are fine in theory. just as communism is.

And the color theory!

"Omg, they found chariots and crap and a large boat in the sea. Big fukn deal, They found chariots in rome, and we find crap in our toilets. And sunken boats all over the world. They have no proof that its the ark, All they know is its a large boat. Dont beleive everything you see on tv "

yeah....cuz, you know, EVERYBODY tries to ride across the water with a horse! and dont you think its strange that moses wrote down the exact dimensions of the ark that noah made, the dimensions that god told him to make it. and is it just a conincidence that these dimensions have the same proportions of length vs. width that have been proven today to offer the best stability on seafaring vessels? hmmm... [/b][/quote]
Uhh, Ever though maybe moses helped build that one boat that sunk, so he knew the dimensions..... And the boats were usually used to transport things from place to place, So it could have just been carrying a chariot and some other stuff to a city? lol.
For all you know, Moses could have been a boat builder. And also. Boats come in so many different sizes, Its easily a chance that just that one boat was the same size as it said in the bible. theres like a 80% of a coincidence like that.

[JadedSketches]

"you could use a religion to set you on the straight path towards higher enlightenment."
OR you could you it as an excuses to kill people.
Fuck,there is no RIGHT or WRONG,just different point of views on what the greater good is.

[Havoc411]

the "ark" they found had ballast stones, which would make it a freight or merchant ship, and it was also real small from what i remember

[Alyte]

Originally posted by snow2skate+Nov 18 2005, 07:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (snow2skate @ Nov 18 2005, 07:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Alyte@Nov 18 2005, 07:21 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-morning_wood@Nov 18 2005, 07:17 PM
see personal rules and morals are fine in theory. just as communism is.

And the color theory!

"Omg, they found chariots and crap and a large boat in the sea. Big fukn deal, They found chariots in rome, and we find crap in our toilets. And sunken boats all over the world. They have no proof that its the ark, All they know is its a large boat. Dont beleive everything you see on tv "

yeah....cuz, you know, EVERYBODY tries to ride across the water with a horse! and dont you think its strange that moses wrote down the exact dimensions of the ark that noah made, the dimensions that god told him to make it. and is it just a conincidence that these dimensions have the same proportions of length vs. width that have been proven today to offer the best stability on seafaring vessels? hmmm...
Uhh, Ever though maybe moses helped build that one boat that sunk, so he knew the dimensions..... And the boats were usually used to transport things from place to place, So it could have just been carrying a chariot and some other stuff to a city? lol.
For all you know, Moses could have been a boat builder. And also. Boats come in so many different sizes, Its easily a chance that just that one boat was the same size as it said in the bible. theres like a 80% of a coincidence like that. [/b][/quote]
No, seriously, you dont get it. you dont get anything. you do not understand christianity. Moses didnt build the ark. it was noah. moses just wrote about it a bunch of years later when god told him to. the ark isnt in the ocean, but on top of a mountain. what noah would have done, without god's help, would be to figure how much space he needed on the ark with all the animals, and make it that size. the ark was waaayy before moses, too. in fact, in the time between the ark and moses was when earth went from pangea to what we have now. oh wow. you just dont get it. so, theres an 80% chance that a boat, that is on top of a mountain, that is the same size as the one in the bible, and is the mathematically optiumum size, is not the ark? weird.

and it was also transporting chariots that existed a thousand years after that.
really weird. get an educated opinion.

[Havoc411]

i didnt think human beings existed when pangea did, were noah and his wife like, cavemen?

[Alyte]

well, with all this comes the notion that the earth is only about 6 to 8000? years old.

[snow2skate]

Originally posted by Alyte+Nov 18 2005, 07:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Alyte @ Nov 18 2005, 07:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by snow2skate@Nov 18 2005, 07:32 PM
Originally posted by Alyte@Nov 18 2005, 07:21 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-morning_wood@Nov 18 2005, 07:17 PM
see personal rules and morals are fine in theory. just as communism is.

And the color theory!

"Omg, they found chariots and crap and a large boat in the sea. Big fukn deal, They found chariots in rome, and we find crap in our toilets. And sunken boats all over the world. They have no proof that its the ark, All they know is its a large boat. Dont beleive everything you see on tv "

yeah....cuz, you know, EVERYBODY tries to ride across the water with a horse! and dont you think its strange that moses wrote down the exact dimensions of the ark that noah made, the dimensions that god told him to make it. and is it just a conincidence that these dimensions have the same proportions of length vs. width that have been proven today to offer the best stability on seafaring vessels? hmmm...
Uhh, Ever though maybe moses helped build that one boat that sunk, so he knew the dimensions..... And the boats were usually used to transport things from place to place, So it could have just been carrying a chariot and some other stuff to a city? lol.
For all you know, Moses could have been a boat builder. And also. Boats come in so many different sizes, Its easily a chance that just that one boat was the same size as it said in the bible. theres like a 80% of a coincidence like that.
No, seriously, you dont get it. you dont get anything. you do not understand christianity. Moses didnt build the ark. it was noah. moses just wrote about it a bunch of years later when god told him to. the ark isnt in the ocean, but on top of a mountain. what noah would have done, without god's help, would be to figure how much space he needed on the ark with all the animals, and make it that size. the ark was waaayy before moses, too. in fact, in the time between the ark and moses was when earth went from pangea to what we have now. oh wow. you just dont get it. so, theres an 80% chance that a boat, that is on top of a mountain, that is the same size as the one in the bible, and is the mathematically optiumum size, is not the ark? weird.

and it was also transporting chariots that existed a thousand years after that.
really weird. get an educated opinion. [/b][/quote]
Obviosly you need to read up on your history actually. Wheels were invented long before that time. and they were implimented onto boxes to carry stuff. A chariot is no more then a box with wheels and to handles that hooked onto the horse.
And from what scientists know, from studies is that the water level on earth used to be really high. Did you know the grand canyon was once filled with water? No? Well news flash, it was. In the jurrasic era the water level was quite high, So when this so called ark might have been used, The water level could have been considerably high. And the boat might have been stranded there, and over time the water level sank and the boat was left among the mountain. There are underwater mountains even in this era. Mountains that almost reach the surface. So if we parked a boat on the water over one of these, and in a few 1000 years the water level sank, the boat would be on this so called mountain. And theres many other options of how that boat got there. Maybe there used to be a lake ontop of the mountain and someone built a boat on it. Or maybe the builder was just one of those crazy people who likes to do weird things like build boats atop mountains. haha. You need to surf the internet or read books or do w/e you want and find out more about this so called ark you heard about.

[Havoc411]

ahem, the grand canyon was never at one point "filled" with water. the colorado river still runs through the bottom of it, but thats what it started as, the colorado river, at no point(excluding floods) was the grand canyon full of water when it was actually a canyon, that would technically be a river. and it was caused by erosion, from the river, so basically the river kept going deeper and deeper into the rock and its still eroding deeper every day. so it wasent always a deep ass crack in the earth

[Alyte]

Originally posted by snow2skate+Nov 18 2005, 07:50 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (snow2skate @ Nov 18 2005, 07:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Alyte@Nov 18 2005, 07:39 PM
Originally posted by snow2skate@Nov 18 2005, 07:32 PM
Originally posted by Alyte@Nov 18 2005, 07:21 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-morning_wood@Nov 18 2005, 07:17 PM
see personal rules and morals are fine in theory. just as communism is.

And the color theory!

"Omg, they found chariots and crap and a large boat in the sea. Big fukn deal, They found chariots in rome, and we find crap in our toilets. And sunken boats all over the world. They have no proof that its the ark, All they know is its a large boat. Dont beleive everything you see on tv "

yeah....cuz, you know, EVERYBODY tries to ride across the water with a horse! and dont you think its strange that moses wrote down the exact dimensions of the ark that noah made, the dimensions that god told him to make it. and is it just a conincidence that these dimensions have the same proportions of length vs. width that have been proven today to offer the best stability on seafaring vessels? hmmm...
Uhh, Ever though maybe moses helped build that one boat that sunk, so he knew the dimensions..... And the boats were usually used to transport things from place to place, So it could have just been carrying a chariot and some other stuff to a city? lol.
For all you know, Moses could have been a boat builder. And also. Boats come in so many different sizes, Its easily a chance that just that one boat was the same size as it said in the bible. theres like a 80% of a coincidence like that.
No, seriously, you dont get it. you dont get anything. you do not understand christianity. Moses didnt build the ark. it was noah. moses just wrote about it a bunch of years later when god told him to. the ark isnt in the ocean, but on top of a mountain. what noah would have done, without god's help, would be to figure how much space he needed on the ark with all the animals, and make it that size. the ark was waaayy before moses, too. in fact, in the time between the ark and moses was when earth went from pangea to what we have now. oh wow. you just dont get it. so, theres an 80% chance that a boat, that is on top of a mountain, that is the same size as the one in the bible, and is the mathematically optiumum size, is not the ark? weird.

and it was also transporting chariots that existed a thousand years after that.
really weird. get an educated opinion.
Obviosly you need to read up on your history actually. Wheels were invented long before that time. and they were implimented onto boxes to carry stuff. A chariot is no more then a box with wheels and to handles that hooked onto the horse.
And from what scientists know, from studies is that the water level on earth used to be really high. Did you know the grand canyon was once filled with water? No? Well news flash, it was. In the jurrasic era the water level was quite high, So when this so called ark might have been used, The water level could have been considerably high. And the boat might have been stranded there, and over time the water level sank and the boat was left among the mountain. There are underwater mountains even in this era. Mountains that almost reach the surface. So if we parked a boat on the water over one of these, and in a few 1000 years the water level sank, the boat would be on this so called mountain. And theres many other options of how that boat got there. Maybe there used to be a lake ontop of the mountain and someone built a boat on it. Or maybe the builder was just one of those crazy people who likes to do weird things like build boats atop mountains. haha. You need to surf the internet or read books or do w/e you want and find out more about this so called ark you heard about. [/b][/quote]
that time? when do you think 'that time' was? they have records of when the egyptians first used chariots. i dont know what your getting at by saying that, though.

haha, frick, stop proving my points! i know, thats what happened, God flooded the earth, noah and his fam hopped into the ark, and sailed away. then they landed on a mountain. i know that the grand canyon was filled with water. it's called the "colarado river". lol. you need to stop making stupid things up.

[snow2skate]

Originally posted by Havoc411@Nov 18 2005, 07:51 PM
ahem, the grand canyon was never at one point "filled" with water. the colorado river still runs through the bottom of it, but thats what it started as, the colorado river, at no point(excluding floods) was the grand canyon full of water when it was actually a canyon, that would technically be a river. and it was caused by erosion, from the river, so basically the river kept going deeper and deeper into the rock and its still eroding deeper every day. so it wasent always a deep ass crack in the earth
Meh..w/e

[snow2skate]

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=33168
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47269

[Dr. Coffee]

religion is for pussies

[Havoc411]

heres the real story, since the boat had to be real fuckin big right, noah employed all the mythical creatures and dinosaurs to help built it cause theyre all really fuckin big, and then when it came time for them to all leave, he told all the mythical beings to came 2 hours later than everyone else and thats why they dont exist anymore, cause noah was an asshole dragon and giant and dinosaur hating piece of poo

[morning_wood]

im done this debate that has turned into an uneducated argument

[MegamanX]

Heres a thought, since you all are arguing over Christianity's rights and wrongs. Didn't Adam and Eve populate the earth. So that means their children committed incest. And their childrens children committed incest. And these two white folks had children of all different races. I thought when 2 people of one race had a child, it was the same race as its parents. Also I thought when incest is practiced, usually there are severe birth defects to the child. So if Adam and Eve had children, they were a mixed couple, and every person on earth would be defective in one way shape or form?

[MegamanX]

If I had to say I practiced a religion, I'd say I am as close to Rastafarianism as a white man can get. SMOKE WEED AND MAINTAIN

[snow2skate]

Originally posted by Havoc411@Nov 18 2005, 08:02 PM
heres the real story, since the boat had to be real fuckin big right, noah employed all the mythical creatures and dinosaurs to help built it cause theyre all really fuckin big, and then when it came time for them to all leave, he told all the mythical beings to came 2 hours later than everyone else and thats why they dont exist anymore, cause noah was an asshole dragon and giant and dinosaur hating piece of poo
You know, Cause animals can think like humans you know :rolleyes:

[snow2skate]

Animals dont beleive in religion and they seem to be living quite well :lol:

[chas]

IM ATHEIST uhh satinist thats cool i guess p.s god isnt real

[Havoc411]

noah made sure to take animals of the same kind that were brother and sister, so that they would have fucked up offspring that would be retarded and not have the ability to speak. and there seems to be alot of incest in the bible, unless noah's son boned his mom, but thas still incest.....

[morning_wood]

ps. by saying you are atheist we figured out that 'idont think god is real' part.

animals dont know what sright or wrong so of course they do well. they do whats right all the time.

[snow2skate]

Thats cause when the bible was written, Science was barely developed, So they did not know that incest could have bad effect's, They just thought it was something random that happened.

I think the bible was just written by a random person, who htought he could change life for the better.

[MegamanX]

If animals dont know right from wrong, why does my dog get a sad face when he poops in the house, or hides when he eats cat shit and you yell his name, but he has a happy face and acts good when he goes potty outside or you yell his name for any other reason that isnt bad.

[Havoc411]

i thought the bible disapproved of "boning thine kin"

man, the romans had the right idea, fuck anything, do anything, and have a grand ole time.

[snow2skate]

Originally posted by MegamanX@Nov 18 2005, 08:18 PM
If animals dont know right from wrong, why does my dog get a sad face when he poops in the house, or hides when he eats cat shit and you yell his name, but he has a happy face and acts good when he goes potty outside or you yell his name for any other reason that isnt bad.
Because he knows that he gets in trouble for doing it. but he does not know that its wrong, Thats why he does it again. But animals eventually pick up on not to do it, Cause there smart enough to remember that theyll get in trouble for pooping in your kitchen.
Dogs recognize voice tones, If you give an angry tone at it that he remembered getting when he pooped in the kitchen, then hes gonna think he gonna get spanked or w/e you do again.

[MegamanX]

I mean, it has a brain, it has a central nervous system. Just because it is inhuman or has a smaller brain then it cannot think? You dont give the universe much credit. You probably think aliens are fake too. Not that I'm saying they have come to our planet. But your a non-believer christian, probably a republican too. Or raised by some.

[Havoc411]

Originally posted by MegamanX@Nov 18 2005, 09:18 PM
If animals dont know right from wrong, why does my dog get a sad face when he poops in the house, or hides when he eats cat shit and you yell his name, but he has a happy face and acts good when he goes potty outside or you yell his name for any other reason that isnt bad.
curse out your dog in a nice tone, he dosent know the differance in your words, its all in the tone you use. and they can associate certian tones with threatening situations. thats why when your dog shits on the rug for the first time he dosent know he did something wrong. they dont know it automatically, its a learned trait. yell at your dog whenever he does somehthing that isnt bad and eventually hell do it less and less

[MegamanX]

nevermind, i thought you were trying to convey a different message. i thought you meant animals couldnt learn or something. IDK im bored at work and flying through posts to stay awake.

[snow2skate]

Originally posted by MegamanX@Nov 18 2005, 08:21 PM
I mean, it has a brain, it has a central nervous system. Just because it is inhuman or has a smaller brain then it cannot think? You dont give the universe much credit. You probably think aliens are fake too. Not that I'm saying they have come to our planet. But your a non-believer christian, probably a republican too. Or raised by some.
who was that directed at? It helps when you quote someone, or atleast say there name....

[JadedSketches]

he said poopy..
his name is megaman..
Im guessing around nine or ten.

[morning_wood]

no animals think. of course they do. im jsut saying they arent burdened with a concience as we are. they do everything out of instinct. they KNOW what is right and they just do it. we know what is right... and we choose if we do it or not.

animals are so much more lucky, they dont have to guilt trip

[Havoc411]

well, im out for the night, peace BS



ill see what this threads about when i get back and continue from there

[snow2skate]

We use more of our brain then animals do. But even we don't use our whole brain. Wouldnt it be neat to see what a person would be like if they were able to use all parts of there brain? Maybe certain parts are used for mental control of things, Or mind connections with people, to be able to talk to them with there minds, Who knows.
Maybe in the past we used these parts of our brain, And just slowely forgot how. Maybe the people of the famed atlantis used this part of the brain, And made them smart people of theere time. Who knows. Maybe gene splicing and other scientific studies can find a way to create a human threw cloing and gene minipulation to create a human that can use 100% of his brain.... Only the future can behold such a feat, To bad humans only live for around 90 years. Or else everyone could have a chance to see what the future holds.



I wish they could figure out how to criogenically freeze people.. They already figured out how to freeze them. But not how to thaw them out quick enough so they dont die.
there is actually a company, that if you pay enough money, will criogenically freeze you, then once in the future they have figured out a method of thawing people out quick enough, then well, youll be un thawed. Wouldnt that be great? Waking up a 1000 years in the future?

[morning_wood]

i duno about you but i use all my brain. where did you get that shit on how we dont use it all?

[snow2skate]

Originally posted by morning_wood@Nov 18 2005, 08:40 PM
i duno about you but i use all my brain. where did you get that shit on how we dont use it all?
Um, Its a proven fact, That certain areas in our brain are unused.... You didnt learn that in science class when you went to school?

[Chaka911]

in satanism there is the belife that the other 30% is used for teleconetik powers. and that over 1000s of years we shut down that part of our minds and they lay dormant. Thats why there were more stories of wizards 500 years ago than today. Because magical power was stronger and more developed.

[Urban Ninja]

i say, everything u think you know... is wrong,

i say the truths of this universe are far to much for our brains to ever possibly concieve

i say all u can do, is open your mind, observe, and take in everyside to every aspect of life, learn what you can, while you can, because life is short, and theres way too much thats unknown to shut your mind and be convinced to the death of your own beliefs....

but i also say the absolute most imporant thing in life is to be happy, make the people around you happy, and have unlimited respect for the notion of life, so anything that helps you do so... well all the power to you

[morning_wood]

no because things get augmented in stories over time.

nope i didnt learn that in science class cuz we didnt go over that part. nor in biology class because i was more often at the arcade then in that class.

if its not used then that means its gonna disapear right? since according to darwins law we lose shit we dont use. right?? so tomorrows man will have a small head. right??

[morning_wood]

Originally posted by Urban Ninja@Nov 18 2005, 08:50 PM
i say, everything u think you know... is wrong,

i say the truths of this universe are far to much for our brains to ever possibly concieve

i say all u can do, is open your mind, observe, and take in everyside to every aspect of life, learn what you can, while you can, because life is short, and theres way too much thats unknown to shut your mind and be convinced to the death of your own beliefs....

but i also say the absolute most imporant thing in life is to be happy, make the people around you happy, and have unlimited respect for the notion of life, so anything that helps you do so... well all the power to you
you contradict yourself pretty hardcore son

i say, everything u think you know... is wrong,

i say all u can do, is open your mind, [...] learn what you can,

[MegamanX]

Originally posted by JadedSketches@Nov 18 2005, 08:24 PM
he said poopy..
his name is megaman..
Im guessing around nine or ten.
Good thing you dont work for the FBI as a profiler. LOL. You don't need to guess my age. Keep guessing tho, your a little high.

[morning_wood]

hahahaha

[MegamanX]

Originally posted by JadedSketches@Nov 18 2005, 08:24 PM
he said poopy..
his name is megaman..
Im guessing around nine or ten.
Plus, if your attacking my speach, choose a perspective. You gonna talk about me in the 2nd or 3rd person? Choose one. Cause I'm the first person, you'll ever get to know down there. And I'm talking about deep down below. In the pits of your butt. Thats right, I'm a part-time butt-plugg. P.S. I eat babies. Now what.

[snow2skate]

Originally posted by morning_wood@Nov 18 2005, 08:50 PM
no because things get augmented in stories over time.

nope i didnt learn that in science class cuz we didnt go over that part. nor in biology class because i was more often at the arcade then in that class.

if its not used then that means its gonna disapear right? since according to darwins law we lose shit we dont use. right?? so tomorrows man will have a small head. right??
Well, Its so little of the brain that we dont use, Its not a large amount, just certain regions of the brain are unused, But they would not dissapear from evolution, Because the brain is the thing that tells the body to get rid of things over time. so in evolution, I dont think the brain would decide to get rid of parts of itself.

[snow2skate]

Originally posted by MegamanX+Nov 18 2005, 08:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MegamanX @ Nov 18 2005, 08:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-JadedSketches@Nov 18 2005, 08:24 PM
he said poopy..
his name is megaman..
Im guessing around nine or ten.
Plus, if your attacking my speach, choose a perspective. You gonna talk about me in the 2nd or 3rd person? Choose one. Cause I'm the first person, you'll ever get to know down there. And I'm talking about deep down below. In the pits of your butt. Thats right, I'm a part-time butt-plugg. P.S. I eat babies. Now what. [/b][/quote]
Ok, so by the way you just acted there, Im assuimg your not 10 or 11, but 9.........



But truthfully,, Your probly 13 or a very early 14... Or maybe your 50 and still havnt matured yet........

[snow2skate]

Wow, 16 pages in only a few hours, this is gotta be a BS record :lol:

[MegamanX]

Morningwood, I thought you said you missed most of biology class. I wouldnt try to dictate Darwin if I were in your position. His theory of evolution is not based on losing parts that we do not use, it is dying if we do not adapt. Chameleons can completely blend into their environment, so why do they need to see 360 degrees at any given time, or have the tongue reflexes of a frog. They dont, but they still have those advantages. Why do you think the DoDo bird went extinct. Never adapted, never evolved. Couldnt escape its predators. Thats some darwin for you. Or how about sea turtles, they dont need the shell, but it's still there.

[morning_wood]

Originally posted by snow2skate+Nov 18 2005, 08:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (snow2skate @ Nov 18 2005, 08:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-morning_wood@Nov 18 2005, 08:50 PM
no because things get augmented in stories over time.

nope i didnt learn that in science class cuz we didnt go over that part. nor in biology class because i was more often at the arcade then in that class.

if its not used then that means its gonna disapear right? since according to darwins law we lose shit we dont use. right?? so tomorrows man will have a small head. right??
Well, Its so little of the brain that we dont use, Its not a large amount, just certain regions of the brain are unused, But they would not dissapear from evolution, Because the brain is the thing that tells the body to get rid of things over time. so in evolution, I dont think the brain would decide to get rid of parts of itself. [/b][/quote]
why not? its useless parts. its a nuisance. we dont encumber ourselves with non usefull things. thats what darwin preaches. see you dont even have faith in your own theories tssk tssk

[Urban Ninja]

Originally posted by morning_wood+Nov 18 2005, 08:51 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (morning_wood @ Nov 18 2005, 08:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Urban Ninja@Nov 18 2005, 08:50 PM
i say, everything u think you know... is wrong,

i say the truths of this universe are far to much for our brains to ever possibly concieve

i say all u can do, is open your mind, observe, and take in everyside to every aspect of life, learn what you can, while you can, because life is short, and theres way too much thats unknown to shut your mind and be convinced to the death of your own beliefs....

but i also say the absolute most imporant thing in life is to be happy, make the people around you happy, and have unlimited respect for the notion of life, so anything that helps you do so... well all the power to you
you contradict yourself pretty hardcore son

i say, everything u think you know... is wrong,

i say all u can do, is open your mind, [...] learn what you can, [/b][/quote]
i guess i used the wrong word.... instead of wrong more like, very far from the whole truth

[morning_wood]

Originally posted by MegamanX@Nov 18 2005, 09:01 PM
Morningwood, I thought you said you missed most of biology class. I wouldnt try to dictate Darwin if I were in your position. His theory of evolution is not based on losing parts that we do not use, it is dying if we do not adapt. Chameleons can completely blend into their environment, so why do they need to see 360 degrees at any given time, or have the tongue reflexes of a frog. They dont, but they still have those advantages. Why do you think the DoDo bird went extinct. Never adapted, never evolved. Couldnt escape its predators. Thats some darwin for you. Or how about sea turtles, they dont need the shell, but it's still there.
i know all this.

you dont need biology class to get educated fool. coming from someone on internet im surprised that u have forgotten self instruction with help of ressources.

neways.

chameleons can blend in... but how is blending in gonna get food? wait for a fly to land in your open mouth?

i duno you tell me. you have just pointed out some flaws in darwins theorie in that post.


the dodo bird got extinc cuz humans decided it was fun to kill them for nothing. man alone counts for dozens of species extinction every years. that to is evolution i guess

[JadedSketches]

Originally posted by MegamanX@Nov 18 2005, 09:01 PM
Why do you think the DoDo bird went extinct. Never adapted, never evolved. Couldnt escape its predators.
Partly,but its primarily because of hunters and poachers.

[snow2skate]

Originally posted by MegamanX@Nov 18 2005, 09:01 PM
Morningwood, I thought you said you missed most of biology class. I wouldnt try to dictate Darwin if I were in your position. His theory of evolution is not based on losing parts that we do not use, it is dying if we do not adapt. Chameleons can completely blend into their environment, so why do they need to see 360 degrees at any given time, or have the tongue reflexes of a frog. They dont, but they still have those advantages. Why do you think the DoDo bird went extinct. Never adapted, never evolved. Couldnt escape its predators. Thats some darwin for you. Or how about sea turtles, they dont need the shell, but it's still there.
Actually, Turtles do need the shell, They tuck all there body parts in it when a predator comes, And they are virtual indestructable to any animal trying to attack them.
Its something they had evolved to, They adapted to there life and found a way to stay safe.

[snow2skate]

All animals had already evolved to protect themselves, and to hunt. Humans are the cause for any extinction that has hapened.

[MegamanX]

1. Morningwood - You just stated you were always in the arcade, paid no attention in biology class. I graduated high school and Biology is my major in college, trust me. If that is how things work, why do I have an appendix?
2. Snow2Skate - If you wouldn't have started an ignorant attack on me based on 1.) my name 2.) the fact that i said poopy when in fact if you check i said A. Poop B. Potty C. Cat Shit Quote whatever quote of mine, but I just checked, and obviously you cannot read. So argue some more. And yes, my balls are feeling now that you wiped the shit from your grandpas ass of them

[JadedSketches]

Originally posted by morning_wood@Nov 18 2005, 09:04 PM

chameleons can blend in... but how is blending in gonna get food? wait for a fly to land in your open mouth?


It might not help get food,but it will help them not BECOME food,by blending into the leaves,thus not being seen by a predator.

[snow2skate]

Originally posted by MegamanX@Nov 18 2005, 09:07 PM
1. Morningwood - You just stated you were always in the arcade, paid no attention in biology class. I graduated high school and Biology is my major in college, trust me. If that is how things work, why do I have an appendix?
2. Snow2Skate - If you wouldn't have started an ignorant attack on me based on 1.) my name 2.) the fact that i said poopy when in fact if you check i said A. Poop B. Potty C. Cat Shit Quote whatever quote of mine, but I just checked, and obviously you cannot read. So argue some more. And yes, my balls are feeling now that you wiped the shit from your grandpas ass of them
If you graduated from college and majored in biology, then you would have atleast know why turtles have a shell and why chameleons have long tongues, And why dodo's are extinct. Your just bluffing to make yourself look good, but it aint working, By insulting people your are just showing how immature you are, Aspecially with shitty insults like that. Sheesh, Go read some fuckin joke books and get some better insults cause yours are stupider then Matt Daimen at a Scientists convention.
The joke at the end of your post didn't even make any sense.

[MegamanX]

Originally posted by snow2skate+Nov 18 2005, 09:05 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (snow2skate @ Nov 18 2005, 09:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-MegamanX@Nov 18 2005, 09:01 PM
Morningwood, I thought you said you missed most of biology class. I wouldnt try to dictate Darwin if I were in your position. His theory of evolution is not based on losing parts that we do not use, it is dying if we do not adapt. Chameleons can completely blend into their environment, so why do they need to see 360 degrees at any given time, or have the tongue reflexes of a frog. They dont, but they still have those advantages. Why do you think the DoDo bird went extinct. Never adapted, never evolved. Couldnt escape its predators. Thats some darwin for you. Or how about sea turtles, they dont need the shell, but it's still there.
Actually, Turtles do need the shell, They tuck all there body parts in it when a predator comes, And they are virtual indestructable to any animal trying to attack them.
Its something they had evolved to, They adapted to there life and found a way to stay safe. [/b][/quote]
I said SEA TURTLES

[MegamanX]

FUCKING SNOW2SKATE, if you do not know how to read, do not reply to what I say. What I said was "i graduated high school" and "i am majoring in biology in college". How do you get i graduated from college with a major in Biology. This is my 2nd year. Wow, even DeVry doesnt get you through that fast.

[MegamanX]

Those arent't jokes. I obviously don't care what you say anymore. So get Matt Daimen or whoever the fuck your talking about and go read a book.

[MegamanX]

The immature thing to do would be to argue some more. And put words in other peoples mouths. Especially words like poopy. Damn.

[morning_wood]

ya sea turtles cant retract.


the appendix was for processing high fiber elements they THINK. so now its slowly shrinking and leaving. so same should happen with those parts of our brain we dont use according to the evolution theory.

dodos are extinct cuz a stronger predator killed them. humans. we are just animals. dont forget that.

[Urban Ninja]

what you think you know, is very far from the whole truth.....

all u can do is open your mind and learn what you can :)

[snow2skate]

"graduated high school and Biology is my major in college"
Maybe you should learn to read. You said, Biology is my major in college. You had not stated if you had finished college or are still in college. All you explained was what your major is.
And I was talking about all generaly turtles, which is also sea turtles. They use there shell for protection in the water also. Without that shell, they would be eatin by many sea animals. They may not be able to retract, But it keeps animals from penatrating them if they bite down on the turtle, And no animal wants to swallow a turtle with a hard shell on it whole..

[morning_wood]

sharks swollow whole turtles.

[JadedSketches]

Originally posted by morning_wood@Nov 18 2005, 09:27 PM
sharks swollow whole turtles.
But it is not a very common thing,there needs to be a small turtle,and a big shark for it to happen,because if a shark swallowed a whole 100 year old sea turtle,its stomach would rip open and it would eventualy die.

[morning_wood]

ah because the age really matters? so hed survive a 99 yr old one?

haha

and what do we know is common or not? our knowledge about what goes under the water is practicly nil.

[snow2skate]

Originally posted by morning_wood@Nov 18 2005, 09:36 PM
ah because the age really matters? so hed survive a 99 yr old one?

haha

and what do we know is common or not? our knowledge about what goes under the water is practicly nil.
Yeah, Its to bad we dont have people who specialize in studying underwater sea life and how they live, If we had people like that, maybe we could call them something like marine biologists? Wouldnt that be neato!

[JadedSketches]

Ahahaha.
En Garde.
Toucher.

[morning_wood]

would be even more neato if we could do something like explore the deepest part of the ocean. we landed on the moon but we havent even explored the deepest parts of the ocean yet. hahahaha