Markers

[inpho_211]

wut about oil paint and paint thinner?? how would i use it to fill one of these and will it work?? i experimented but i couldnt get it open..http://p.office1000.com/vp6/7326HUN.jpg

[rush2]

its hard to get oli paint to flow thru valve markers

[Mean Mr.Mustard]

just copped some of those new grog cutters, pretty dope, write nice and cheap

[mr. white]

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a364/hedbanger/HVAssembly.jpg fuckin cool

cant picture it in action

[Attison Ose]

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a364/hedbanger/HVAssembly.jpg fuckin cool

cant picture it in action

wholy shit i want that...

[skull-e]

Yeah eh?

i always see thoase marsh ink roller things on graff sites

but I've never actually seen one being used

anyone got a video demo or something?

[Flawless Victory]

I think it probably looks a lot cooler than it works.

[Attison Ose]

I think it probably looks a lot cooler than it works.

yea probably

[Raisedbywolves]

its not a marker, but i was hoping you guys might have some dirt on it
http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu162/jacquesalexandre/IMG_4150-1.jpg
http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu162/jacquesalexandre/IMG_4156.jpg
http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu162/jacquesalexandre/IMG_4162.jpg
and the results...
http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu162/jacquesalexandre/IMG_4163.jpg

and yes i have googled it, but i got nothing

[Raisedbywolves]

also so that you like me more
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3_wwreSFTY&feature=related
its a demo of the roller back a few posts

[Flawless Victory]

I've seen those spray things around home depot,
my friend also has one in her kitchen for cooking oil.
you hand pump it to make pressure.
I can't find any online shit about them, though.

[Raisedbywolves]

dyou remember what they market them as?
(company name, etc.)

[Flawless Victory]

Nah man, sorry.
I'll look around a little online for it, though.

[skull-e]

I'm pretty sure i've seen those, but you need to refill them with a co2 cartridge

[noxi]

damn that spray shit looks pretty tight.

[(SoS)Viruz]

you can get these for 3.25http://www.traceypackaging.com/product_images/catalog19640/2017Black.jpg
and those krink like markers for 3.95http://www.traceypackaging.com/product_images/catalog19640/PM23Black.jpg
LINK (http://www.traceypackaging.com/index.asp?category=10630)

Not even tryin to be funny but those are off brand as you already know which means the ink quality is going to be very weak.

[Flawless Victory]

Off brand?
Them shits were made BEFORE Krink started his shit.
Kr used those exact bodies for a minute, actually.

[anu-Hiero]

yeah they are exactly the same as a krink or a illadel but cheaper...even if you were to buy an empty steel tip it would cost more than that

[H3TT1NG3R]

ive had both of them, the ink in the k-71's is not good, just for marking. but before u juice it, u can swap out inks.

with teh ball point, those have legit ink. its a paint/ ink alcohol mix

[Attison Ose]

cant remember whos post it was i saw, but the double sided glue pen OR the ZIG pens are the cheapest, best homemade marker, just made 2 in like 5 mins, if u dont wanna make ink, i got an old colt 45 marker cuz there shit, and spun it around it a sock or w/e take the cap off CARFULLEY!!! because it will be full of ink, then put that ish in the glue/ZIG pen instead, quick, easy, effecient and they are worth the money spent... i got all my shit from micheals



i do not write ....

[anu-Hiero]

http://www.dharmatrading.com/html/eng/1974-AA.shtml
javascript: jQuery.facebox('<img src=http://images.dharmatrading.com/images/eng/products/fullsize/pump2-1-090623131310.jpg>');

[anu-Hiero]

http://www.dharmatrading.com/html/eng/1974-AA.shtml
http://images.dharmatrading.com/images/eng/products/image/pump2-1-090623131310.jpg

[Nicko]

H3TT makes ill markers

[fameone2009]

has anyone else had a problem with the white grog squeezer 10 cuz i got one and the nib leaks when i tip is on its side or up side down and the nib is right to the body of the squeezer body?

[LACAN]

lookin good
http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/zz217/tolexin/Dripstick-PopUp-English.jpg

[Raisedbywolves]

grog mops are leaky
horribly fucking leaky
throw some think shit in there.

and hiero - FUCK YEAH
thanks

[inpho_211]

http://www.dharmatrading.com/html/eng/1974-AA.shtml
javascript: jQuery.facebox('<img src=http://images.dharmatrading.com/images/eng/products/fullsize/pump2-1-090623131310.jpg>');

huh..thats what a spray can looks like??

[fameone2009]

grog mops are leaky
horribly fucking leaky
throw some think shit in there.

and hiero - FUCK YEAH
thanks

thanx

[.nolove.]

one word.pentels are dope.

[planetaryduality]

Ive never seen them rackable an it saddens me

[Stevieboy7]

Ive never seen them rackable an it saddens me

They sell the pentel white's at my university bookstore, woot.
If those are the pentels you're talkin about...

[notorious_rame]

Has anybody else used the those martha stewart glue markers? There basically a bit bigger than the mini otrs with the same system. the nibs kinda shitty but I mean its from michaels and its rackable.

[shem]

fuck those get them zig terracotas or zig gluepens or zig woodepens nigggaa

[H3TT1NG3R]

Has anybody else used the those martha stewart glue markers? There basically a bit bigger than the mini otrs with the same system. the nibs kinda shitty but I mean its from michaels and its rackable.

YES those are the shit!

to the kid above me, they are made by zig...

[notorious_rame]

Well the only reason i started using the martha stewart ones is cuz there always in stock and EVERYBODY racks the zig shit. The michaels by were I live is the only one for a ways so writers from erywere go there and rack shit. Gots to get creative child.

[rush2]

anyone else have trouble with paint thru a stampendous?
It like loks up and shit

[H3TT1NG3R]

yea stampendous sucks, its only for thin inks.

[rush2]

alright thanks
damn waste o time

[Graff J up]

where can i get some jumbo pilots???
i havent seen em in any stores..

[LACAN]

anyone else have trouble with paint thru a stampendous?
It like loks up and shit

yes! everyone seems to think those things are all that but I think they're terrible. (ESPECIALLY mohair)

[rush2]

bump

ive been having trouble with gk through homemade markers
best luck Ive had is gluing a circle of a sock on the tip but it rips fast
anyone have a beter nib?

[Th3t4]

bump

ive been having trouble with gk through homemade markers
best luck Ive had is gluing a circle of a sock on the tip but it rips fast
anyone have a beter nib?

i've heard people use scowering pad and dish cloth. it's streaky but it's fairly firm

[Stevieboy7]

heres a deall for people who love the meanstreaks
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220497772158&_trksid=e11014.m204&_trkparms=algo%3DSI%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BCR%2 6otn%3D8&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNAFP:CA:1348
Found them on eBay, 60 for 50$, free shipping.

Thats less than a buck each!

[rush2]

bullshit
I get those for free

[Th3t4]

molotow 611EM

is it any good?
should i put grog in it?

[tiny tim]

yah wit them stampendous mops you gotta take like an exacto knife and stick it inside the body of the nib and cut a bigger hole outof the plastic partt. then you can poke somelike pin holes in the nib wit the end of toothpick or some thing, or you could just rack some window writers

[^*SaP*^!]

:cool:try lookin into micheals might have it

[CrustOner]

What? Cop?

[LACAN]

Racked on my lunch breakhttp://i829.photobucket.com/albums/zz217/tolexin/markers1.jpg

[LACAN]

TODAYS HAUL:

http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/zz217/tolexin/todayshall.jpg

[LACAN]

check the metallics lookin hot!

http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/zz217/tolexin/metal.jpg

[RemoZ]

How well does shoe polish work?

I'm not looking for it to permanent but figured is it writes well than I could use it before I make some ink for it.

[Flawless Victory]

nah, just dump that shit out and put some rusto in it.

[CrustOner]

agreed. Shoe polish is ugly shit, and it's blotchy.

[RemoZ]

So with a kiwi mop, can I use ink or should I use some type of paint style?

[CrustOner]

Either works. Ink is drippier.

[Flawless Victory]

anyone have any free shit they want to PM me besides that Markal site?

I'll trade you a sketch for them =D

[massacreman]

a sketch... wow

i have some questions
when do you have to put the regulator out on a kiwi mop?
some people say always, some say never
i saw that you could use some dish cloth or something to put on the nib like this
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mister-nylon/1557339142/
i know its kinda toy to ask but i never really had to make my own shit since my parents were okay with it so i could just buy/ rack my shit, but now... i dont have any money
and im banned from the art store so.,..

[Flawless Victory]

taking out the regulator will seriously increase flow.
I think I'd say always if you are using paint, but it's just to you when it comes to ink.
Also, I've never had good experiences with nib-covers and paint,
but it helps with ink mops.

[massacreman]

yea but when i put the reg. out of the mop it will leak like fuck because nothing is controlling the flow anymore... :\

[rush2]

more fun than:)

[massacreman]

not when it get on your new air max's

[rush2]

hahahahhaha
I always were my shitiest clothes when tagging

[Buff This]

yea but when i put the reg. out of the mop it will leak like fuck because nothing is controlling the flow anymore... :\

If you need to control your flow, I would suggest with wings;
http://charmee.com.ph/data/charmee_389slim.gif

I just don't understand how you can be all prima donna about getting ink on your shit if being around paint is what you do.

[ShortRound]

How strong is the glue on a ZIG? I got a ZIG from a diff country I want to keep somewhat clean looking. I'll post a pic later when I get a chance.

[prefer]

just buy a marker whf do you mean

[doze_one]

not sure how this works exactly, first time posting.

so i have an empty On The Run 0.6 inch marker with a dried out tip and a messed up pump and some Armour Etch. what i need help with is: what should i do with the marker, so it isnt wasted and is there a way to mix the Armour Etch in?

[del4sel]

http://gifts.barnesandnoble.com/Home-gift/Leafing-Pen-18-Kt-Gold/e/724504099017?

What the fuck good is this Krylon Gold Leafing Pen? I have this gift certificate to barnes and noble so... any specs?

[n8galicia]

rack that shit dude

[Culture_Shock]

word to the krylon leafing pens. they're like decos with little chisel tips. but seriously, you get a gift card to a book store? heaven forbid you buy a fucking book...

[del4sel]

haha. watever. id rather be a better drawer than read books. plus, if i really need to, library has em free

[ShortRound]

Marker: ZIG Posterman
Question: What is the best way to open the Marker without making too many marks on the Marker. (Threads are glued).

[rush2]

idk just twist it hard
ive done it before

[Fury]

haha. watever. id rather be a better drawer than read books. plus, if i really need to, library has em free

If I had a gift card, I'd buy Bay Area Graffiti; hella inspirational in my opinion.

[ShortRound]

I'll probably have to try it that way. I was hoping someone knew that the glue was water-soluable or not. Thanks.

[H3TT1NG3R]

its opposite threaded

[springbreak95]

h3tt saves the day again

[fameone2009]

got myself a zig posterman today and wondering wat kind of ink should i put in it

[ShortRound]

its opposite threaded

Oh so true. Gave it a left-handed twist and off it goes without the slightest complaint. Good info. That's something I never really noticed before.

[doze_one]

yo, i was just wondering if anybody has used Dalo Industrial Paint Markers, or any other kind of steel tip, ball-point style paint marker before? the main thing with the Dalo markers is that they have this weird pump thing on them to build up pressure in the marker, and there is no way to tell how pumped up it is. i used one the other day and it basically just wouldnt stop dripping/leaking and getting all over everything around me. i was just wondering if anybody had any tips/solutions.

[408Bomber]

yo, i was just wondering if anybody has used Dalo Industrial Paint Markers, or any other kind of steel tip, ball-point style paint marker before? the main thing with the Dalo markers is that they have this weird pump thing on them to build up pressure in the marker, and there is no way to tell how pumped up it is. i used one the other day and it basically just wouldnt stop dripping/leaking and getting all over everything around me. i was just wondering if anybody had any tips/solutions.

they get pretty juicy if you pump them to0 much. Only pump it when you first get it to fill the nib, or if its starting to get streaky, just do a quick 1

[doze_one]

word, thanks 408. stay up

[skull-e]

pump as much as you want, just make sure you get all the compressed air out of the body before wiping the excess shit off

[FearTheFire]

are these questions fucking serious??? like... "i have an empty kiwi mop should i put ink or paint in it?" or this kid a page back asking about krylon gold leafing pens and his barnes n noble gift card from mom and dad from xmas. like COME ON PEOPLE EXPERIMENT a little, get off the internet, and just try different shit. Read into how to make some good ink recipes, or ghetto krink, something jesus. Trial and error, just fuck around trying different things out, or just get markers made to do this shit in the first place. but really some of these questions are absolutely ridiculous.

On a dif note, got a few of the Grog cutter pump markers, the silver is def nice shit nibs are a bit fragile, but theyll write on just about anything.

[kermet_1]

These are just kids remember, thats what the internet is for.

[8732]

Krink has new 15mm markers. K-51's.

[rush2]

omg hes done it again

[8732]

http://www.12ozprophet.com/images/uploads/k-51_cmyk_juiced.jpg

[8732]

"K-51 Jumbo Permanent Ink Marker
Krink K-51 markers feature high-quality dye-based inks. Vibrant, translucent colors are water resistant.
The durable extra-broad tip has two edges for different line widths and versatility.
Writes on most surfaces: Metal, canvas, painted surfaces, wood, glass, plastic, and paper are all great surfaces for Krink inks.
Large ink capacity of 30ml. Quick drying. Great for a variety of art, craft, and industrial uses.
Highest quality. Handmade in the USA.
Xylene free. Conforms to ASTM D-4236 and California Prop 65.
Colors: Cyan, Magenta, Yellow, Black."

Sorry that I had to do it in multiple posts, I'm on my phone.
I don't like them. The original nib was the shit, this is just like any other 15mm nib now. Probably gonna be overpriced.

[xXxKaDeTxXx]

i juSS recentllyy made a sickK lil dripper..i made it out of a gluee pen so easyy it comess wit a nib datss pretty nicee..mad dripsss jus becareful it doess leakK if u dnt be careful wit it!

[ShortRound]

Zig Posterman + Plumber's tape = Marker that doesn't leak...or doesn't leak as much as it used to.

Just go to the section where they sell toilets at your local hardware store and you'll find it. Small round plastic case..looks like a donut shape...usually a $1 or less. It doesn't stick (non-adhevsive) but it grips to itself. Stretch it a little tight when you're putting it around the threads and give it a good 1.5 times around so when you screw on your cap it seals.

[rush2]

zigs can leak baddd

[ShortRound]

Yeah, that's why I went to my toolbox and pulled out some plumber's tape after mine leaked all over my hand and on my boot. luckily black ink on black boots looks good.

[massacreman]

lol i was just going to post the photo of the krinks, but other people were faster :(

[sodi]

krink ftw

[rush2]

Fuck krink

[Flawless Victory]

Fuck krink.

[FrEEk_nine-o-fizzle]

i dig the krink squeezer mops. but i prefer making my own

[provinT13]

^^ Same. Great drips out of their dye based ones, and great color out of the paint based ones, but it seems after you get half way down they don't seem to drip much anymore. Oh and the nibs always pop off.

[inpho_211]

has anyone tried these??
http://www.moffitt-smith.com/images/66markers.jpg
http://www.furniturerestorationtoolsandsupplies.com/images/stories/brandtandwhitney/quiktipmarkersmall.jpg

[Buff This]

Funny that KR made these new dye based markers in the colors that failed in the K71 line.
This tells me he is marketing them to the graphic designer crowd. You know the people that actually know what CMYK is? In paint language that's shock blue, telemagenta, zinc yellow and deep black.

[rush2]

He doesn't like us anymore

[prefer]

has anyone tried these??
http://www.moffitt-smith.com/images/66markers.jpg
http://www.furniturerestorationtoolsandsupplies.com/images/stories/brandtandwhitney/quiktipmarkersmall.jpg

there alright average at best

[maddripz]

Can u some how reffill a valve flow paint marker from the tip

[rush2]

uuuuuuhhhh you dont

skrew the top off

[rush2]

...

[(SoS)Viruz]

http://www.12ozprophet.com/images/uploads/k-51_cmyk_juiced.jpg

I never used these versions of the krinks are they any good? Well krink its self is a good product. But latley I've been in to mops more cause they seem to be more reliable then the regular pump mark......

[slim.571]

I never used these versions of the krinks are they any good? Well krink its self is a good product. But latley I've been in to mops more cause they seem to be more reliable then the regular pump mark......

those markers look straight i use postermans that look exactly like that but since those ar krink theyre probably better

[rush2]

krinks sucks
shitty ink in an average marker

[CrustOner]

I thought it was the other way around? Average ink in a shitty marker?

[rush2]

well i mean the k71s are okay markers
but the ot mops they have suck

and the ink is ok if you hit insides but sucks outdoors

[massacreman]

yeah, i did some tags with a purple k71 like 3 months ago, i came back and all my tags are fucking light pink (not buffed) due the sun or something... bad shit i prefer paint these days above ink

[Flawless Victory]

had a homeboy hit a bathroom with one (detroit is not notorious for inside spots), and you couldn't even tell that shit was there after the buff

[SANEONE]

good ink: regular paint mixed with rubbing alcohol and WD40 shaken not stirred...

[jizmobeel]

hahahah
you are so retarded
hhahaha

[Raisedbywolves]

bullet marker and thinned out bucket paint
better than the internet.

[slim.571]

does anybody know if u can thin acrylics? and how..

[CrustOner]

with water..

[Karma]

I picked up a copper steel tip just a few days ago and to my surprise I'm satisfied with the marker. Now, while the ink looks great it can't stain shit. Drips nice though.

Sucks KR doesn't make bottles like in my sig anymore. I remember when you could first get them, just black and silver.

[Culture_Shock]

hahah, when KR was making ink like in your sig, it was just bucket paint and spirits.

[Karma]

hahah, when KR was making ink like in your sig, it was just bucket paint and spirits.

and it wasn't a commercial company rip off either. used to pick them up for 10-15 bucks.

[rush2]

i could have made it for 6

[Karma]

i could have made it for 6


guess you should have then, could be making good money now.

[rush2]

id rather not cheat people
id make some hard staining ink and sell it

[Flawless Victory]

Markal took all the good shit off of their sample page D:

[Karma]

id rather not cheat people
id make some hard staining ink and sell it


yeah right, I doubt that highly. A nigha that can make some bucks is gonna make them bucks. Don't front and don't hate. If any of us would have had the idea we'd be cakin up right now nigha. keep it real.

krink is way to expensive for the volume you get now, and its shittier than ever. guess people are just stuck on the name. Like MTN.

[SpeekOner]

i dont know if anyone has said this yet but i love it and it works great:
Take one of those super big woodcraft markers and take everything apart then empty out the paint and you will find a little marble like the ones from grade school days hold on to it and get some of the speedball ink from michaels (its small enough for the pocket and just right for one marker) its perfect amount for one marker, dump that shit in there and put that gradeschool marble in there again throw the pieces together again and BAM! a great marker for stop light control boxes and signs anywhere it has worked great for me so far i'm gonna grab some more speedball ink and do it again shortly... you can juice it and get some good drippy tags or you can just ink it up just enough and get goos clean tags... either way everyone can get speedball ink and woodcraft markers for free (RACKING) and its nice to have!!! Good Bombing!!! :D

[Sovran]

Get a two way glue pen from Joann Fabrics or Ace hardware, dump the glue, throw some ink in there and go.

[Xfish]

hey just picked up a sharpie meanstreak is it anything like a markal or a sakura

[rush2]

ya but there not as good tho

[Noz]

yea, nd they dnt stain...

[planetaryduality]

oooh, i like streaks

[DKOZ]

Yo i use a white glue container with chalkboard eraser as the nibb,

[xaaronx]

need a little help....

so i picked up a Zig Woodcraft marker and some Higgins waterproof blank ink. i tested it and the last thing this ink would ever do is stain (besides fabric). anything i should add or should i just dump the ink and get something else? i looked for something by Speedball at Michaels but they only had real tiny bottles in mulit-packs that didn't seem worth it.

[PegCityBoy]

higgins and speedball are useless fuck if it's waterbased, it's gonna suck

do u turn the k71 top clockwise or counterclockwise to get it off? it seems to be stuck both ways and i don't wanna tighten it more or break the plastic

[planetaryduality]

counter

[Jenkins.]

Markers/acrylics to use on girls body ?
What should i use ?
Pm me itd be appreciated !

[Flawless Victory]

Sharpie poster paints are straight, so are Elmers.
Don't use decos, or any other markers with any of the little metallic warning labels on them, they have shit in them that's dangerous to have on your skin in large amounts.

[xaaronx]

higgins and speedball are useless fuck if it's waterbased, it's gonna suck

thanks. i'm not very educated with the whole ink thing.

[adelg88]

im new to graff.. and ive been drawing a lot (just on paper) but ive been looking for the best markers to use, suggestions?

[STEP TWO]

use sharpies for outlines and alcohol based markers (prisma color is the easyest to find)for fills and anything else where u wanna blend colors

[adelg88]

i have a bunch of prisma color.. but i have trouble blending with them

[STEP TWO]

color the lighter of the the colors your blending then add the darker color then blend the lighter color in again

[adelg88]

thank you

[adelg88]

some of my markers

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/pbnisgod/IMAG0094.jpg

[rush2]

higgins and speedball are useless fuck if it's waterbased, it's gonna suck



not true
its weatherproof and if you boil it down and add shellac and alcohol its pretty good

[Jenkins.]

Sharpie poster paints are straight, so are Elmers.
Don't use decos, or any other markers with any of the little metallic warning labels on them, they have shit in them that's dangerous to have on your skin in large amounts.

Thanks man.
Felt kinda gay asking that question haha.
I got some gardencrafts too i might use. Will post flicks later.

[shem]

you guys have any experience with scribes?

i just picked one up cant get it to scratch glass tho.

[STEP TWO]

fill it with ink. paint wont flow thru the nib as well

[Noz]

are the window painter's nibs good?

[Culture_Shock]

what is it with you guys and dumping the paint out of your woodcrafts? just use that shit straight. it might not cut the buff on insides, but if you hit the streets and trains they're perfect. even if you insist on tagging the bathrooms at Walmart and Taco Bell, your shitty homemade ink can't stain worth a fuck, so come on...

[CrustOner]

Too streaky for me. I have a bunch of metal boxes that I only use ink for. Zig paint doesn't cut it for me.

[rush2]

i always pour it in a mop

[rush2]

does anyone now what mop is best for bitumen?
ive had so many cloged mops from it its not funny
its not too thick either its thinner than most gk

[H3TT1NG3R]

i use just a bingo dabber body and use chalkboard nib, just squeeze, works perfect, make sure the cap fits tight tho

[STEP TWO]

have u tryed a bingo dabber?

[STEP TWO]

sorry i didnt see that last page

[Phat 2]

wait a couple of days and then get more pens :>

[CrustOner]

You guys know the Arro-Mark Mighty Markers? (Basically a K-71 minus KR's ink)

Has anyone bought a box of six before? Or do you all just get samples?

[rush2]

i use just a bingo dabber body and use chalkboard nib, just squeeze, works perfect, make sure the cap fits tight tho

aha word?
i wuda thought that a homemade marker would be less flow than a normal one
thanks tho

[CrustOner]

Bump for an answer.

[H3TT1NG3R]

ive just bought a single one before, u can use the paint tahts in it, but i'd just empty it before u pump it and fill it with something good

[rush2]

wait what?
are you talking about a zig or a homemade marker?

[H3TT1NG3R]

@crust

[CrustOner]

Oh sweet, thanks, Hett.

[Voice207]

I kick it wayyyy old school man! I rock the Sanford kin sized permenent markers!!! All day baby, near impossible to buff! Ink so u can't scratch it! Get 'em @ staples!!!

[CrustOner]

Near impossible to buff? :/

ANYWAY.

Alright guys.. PM-23 Mighty Marker, Smash K.O., or UniPaint Broad?

[m.ziggy]

im painting a piece on some little kids wall. they didnt want me to use spray paint cause its inside the house so im using regular bucket paint. i want to outline the piece in black and was thinking of using marker instead of paint. anyone know if thats a bad idea or what markers i should or shouldnt use?

[Jenkins.]

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b230/GlamR-CuPe/4-1-1.jpg

Facepaint with Pilot will do.

[rush2]

im painting a piece on some little kids wall. they didnt want me to use spray paint cause its inside the house so im using regular bucket paint. i want to outline the piece in black and was thinking of using marker instead of paint. anyone know if thats a bad idea or what markers i should or shouldnt use?

bump
i wanna try this b/c i want to prove to myself that i can do a piece w/out spray paint just for fun

[Flawless Victory]

Why not use a smaller brush/roller?

[rush2]

because you cant get as clean a line w/ a brush
and w/ a roller you would have to turn it to get an even line

[Scratch]

I've seen it done. just use a marker with fairly opaque ink. or you could try using decos for your outline.

[rush2]

lol decos?
that would be way too thin
but yeah ill try it with a pilot

[Scratch]

eh i guess i figured little kid = little room, but i guess not. a pilot or like a k71 should do fine

[rush2]

oh yeah i gotcha
but i wanna try like a normal sized illegal peice w/out spray paint

[Jenkins.]

Why dont you just use spray paint ?
I dont get it...
Especially if it's illegal, kinda wanna get in and out as fast as possible wouldn't you ?

[rush2]

well ya but i just wanna prove it to myself that i dont have to rely soly on spray paint
plus spray is pretty bad for the environment

[m.ziggy]

i used a extra bold oil based sharpie, worked really well

[massacreman]

rush mosts paints arent fucking up the nature anymore, at leat where im at its forbidden to put that cfk's or whatever in there, montana belton etc dont have them anymore too i believe.

[CrustOner]

Plus, are you really fucking serious about the environment? You do graffiti, for fuck's sakes. You know what makes ink? Oil. You know what makes plastic? Oil. That fucks up the environment much more than a little aerosol.

Use paint.

[SETRIXTER]

can anyone recomend an easily obtainable marker with big drips? cheers

[CrustOner]

Kiwi Shoe Polish mop. cheers.

[Raisedbywolves]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_UVs_UK5b4&feature=channel

anyone have the dirt on this?
as far as the internet goes, it seems this marker never existed

[TFSA]

buy them here!
http://www.store-montana.com/?resultType=category&params=4&tpid=90

[Stoked2PaintNY]

thoes markers r fuckin sickkkk

[||BREAD||]

I've bought a couple "good" markers and they are super streaky. I just would like to know if there is just a solid, non streaky, beast of a marker.

Does anyone know of any?

[viseversa101]

my current blender...
im not digging the blending tho
im using it on prismas, sharpies, crayola decos
should i try a diff brand or diff strat?
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f185/viseversa101/SDC10977.jpg

[markingz.]

Kiwi Shoe Polish mop. cheers.
only thing that needs to be said in here thank you

[KAZonee]

will black marsh and garvey mix work in a pilot?

i dont want to try it and fuck up the whole marker

[CrustOner]

Both ink.. I would assume so. But I'm not 100% sure on that.

[KAZonee]

yea cause unoe marsh is kinda thick so i dont know if it would flow threw the pilot

[skull-e]

if you thin it down like 2/3 garvey and 1/3 marsh

should be thin enough to run through a pilot

if it's still too thick, thin it down some more

edit: i need that 6mm montana

drool drool

[Spark391]

This goes a little off-topic, because this thread mostly covers shit for bombing. But I wanted to ask how to not fuck up your paint markers etc. used for blackbook/canvas work. The thing is that every time I do a canvas, I fuck some of the markers up, and it's quite a waste of money.. the tip gets covered with wet paint and "clogs".. so no paint comes out from the marker. Is there a trick, like letting the marker tip sit in a paint thinner for a while or something? (sounds logical though lol) If I would wait for all the paint to try, it wouldn't be a problem .. but most of the times, i don't have the patients, especially when I want to get some finer details down, but the overall things is still wet (previously covered with spray paint or some other media)..

And for the big drips guy, just make a shoepolish mop, or any other mop.. I think most of that shit drips the same, you should get those little krink type mops everywhere, if you're from the states.

[BoomSlang]

ok i havent done any graffiti in over 15 years, yes that makes me an old man in some of your eyes lol.

I am looking to buy some decent markers , in my area i have the choice between Copic Ciao's, Prisms, Letraset's and the Touch sets.

Money wise the letrasets are the best deal but i havent seen maky people on here gabbin about them so i dont have any feedback to use as a reason to buy. copics are a bit on the high end and i would rather not spend that much for something i still consider a hobby.

without throwing out the "Crayola or Sharpie" responses i am looking for which ones people think blend best and lay down evenly without showing overlaps on fills

thanks for any serious replies

Boom

[viseversa101]

prismas are what ive been working with as far as the blending and i suck ass at it, been trying countless techs n still not satisfied...other markers i use work decently tho...take that into consideration

[BoomSlang]

thanks for the quick input.
when your doing your blending how are you going about it?
something similar to thils tutorial? ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWuyVRzZZZQ ) seems the speed of swapping colors and keeping the paper wet give the best results from most things i see. i am looking to pull off smooth gradient fills and color transitions within my pieces. and need to learn the techniques as when i dropped out of the game last time i was using colored pencils with fine line pens for outlines.. oh my how things have changed over the years lol

[BoomSlang]

cracked out for a 36 set of copic ciao's should be here by monday. hopefully ya
will see a few things from me over in the toy forum next week till i get my flow back..somehow i dont think my old assed style will float on here for long so i am gonna have to learn a few new tricks along the way.

[Zookyook]

how much did that 36 set cost? i use OTR graphics and my set was $75... i know copics are expensive as shit... u can find my set here (http://********.com/catalog/otr-830-set-36-allcity-p-1180.html)REPLACE the ******** with a r t p r i m o ...

and as for blending colors, its really the paper that matters from what i heard in the tickz ms battle... his shit looks super clean and he said this...

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b320/tickz2/P1040118.jpg


Phat2- you asked what media I was using, its the usual- promarkers and paint marker to highlight. montana 94 for the sky. What I find makes a massive difference is using paper made for markers, the non bleed stuff- I use copic marker pad,about £5 (7 dollars) a pad, the pens dont bleed,you can add layer after layer,highly recommended,you can use 1 colour to shade by just adding layers- the bode lizard is one pen colour. And it dosent run your pens out so quick- all good!

[BoomSlang]

funny enough i got mine off ebay, £20.00 for 36,set c, 2 of them were used once and the lady thought they put out too much ink for what she wanted. i do have to say they make a huge difference in coloring shit in. nice when the markers ya use dont leave inconsistent lines every place a marker happens to overlap.
since i got that set i went back to ebay and ordered another 20 different colors to round out my set , those i had to get 1 by 1 for £1.80 each with free shipping.
i still have alot to do to get to use them right but its a pleasure to use something decent for a change and just to see a nice result.

also just got 2 copic marker pads today £11.50 for the pair delivered

[Zookyook]

sounds good man post some pics of that shit i wanna see what the pads look like if theyre like thicker almost foam or what?? ive never seen that shit... but sounds like next time i want markers im ebayin it! hah i got fucked over with my set

[BoomSlang]

well i started with these.....hangs head in shame lol
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm24/CobraMods/graff%20bits/29209_127990980546721_1000000745856.jpg
and these
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm24/CobraMods/graff%20bits/29209_127990950546724_1000000745856.jpg

those i bought at a thrift shop about 3 weeks ago when i decided to start writing again.

total waste of money (good they were cheap lol)

these are the ones i scored off ebay

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm24/CobraMods/graff%20bits/29209_127990923880060_1000000745856.jpg

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm24/CobraMods/graff%20bits/29209_127990897213396_1000000745856.jpg

ton of difference for coloring.

i have a few other tidbits i have collected in the past 2 weeks
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm24/CobraMods/graff%20bits/29209_127990847213401_1000000745856.jpg

surprisingly the bic markers arent bad


havent tried these out yet as i just got em today

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm24/CobraMods/graff%20bits/29209_127991857213300_1000000745856.jpg

quick inspection....

paper is babys ass smooth
feels even thinner than the paper in my other budget sketch book.
almost similar to copy paper in weight

i am gonna take a few days to toy around with it and see what difference it makes.
since i am not in this for the wall,train bombing scene all i need is good materials and a ton of practice to suit my needs.

i will throw up a pic once the rest of my copics come in

[Zookyook]

verrr niiiice!!! i want copics so effin bad... i have pics of all my shit in the inventory thread... and is that a whiteout pen? i was thinking those would be good for highlights but the one i got was just too thick and glopped all over the place

[BoomSlang]

yep they call em tip ex over here, but its a fairly fine white out tip.
honestly i will probably dump that and just grab a small tube of acrylic white from a hobby shop/ craft store and a liner brush. can get a finer line and a bit more control than the flow from the tip ex

[Zookyook]

i had a set of molotow one4alls... u can paint over black with white with those... really opaque, and u can get fineline tips for them too, but im outta paint and ive been using my decos for highlights... if u flip the nib around one end is thinner and they work pretty good for ultra thin shit

[CrustOner]

I use a white gel pen for highlights.

[Flawless Victory]

I use a pink one to write notes to all my girlfrans in english class.

[CrustOner]

hahahaha I just pictured that..

[Zookyook]

fak i never even thought of that... ur a visionary crust lol... ill try that

[KAZonee]

i wanna get a skinny silver marker

i cant get a silver pilot so i idk to get a silver deco or a silver prisma color

i can get a silver uni but i want a skinny one not a chisel tip

[SAID]

kiwi mop + thinner + silver paint
i know you want skinny, but that shit is fucking beast

[tyl3r]

does any one know how to or has anyone made a 20-30 mm nib at home?

[kace91]

I have a friend in usa comin to my country, so ill ask him to bring me some graff stuff we cant buy here... what markers would you reccomend tryin? (i was thinkin mainly on krink and junobo stuff)

[curlz]

1. you want any type of plastic sqeezeable tube.i used an old acrylic paint bottle that i washed out.and 2.filled with ink. the bottle was delta ceramcoat is the brand. you can get permanent acrylic paint bottle too(what you want). so once you clean out the bottle you just have the clear bottle so make some homemade ink! 3.for the nib i used the rough part of the top of a sponge. you can just peel it off you want to roll it up then fold it in. then slide in make the nib the way you want. i tryed this and it works so well. the ink flows perfectly through it you can even do non drippy tags. hope it helped for outdoor graffiti artists like me.

[curlz]

Ok first off i was stoked to get my first krink marker! but it all went downhill from here i tryed it the k-51 is like a translucent yellow i wanted it to be bright but im gonna fill it up with grog when it runs out :) but anways it was ok. Any suggests on big nib krinks i could get that arent crappy?
Markwell Xtra wide- First of i though this was a great deal until i got the marker. i like how it write on dumpster and slick metal surfaces but on wood and like rough plastic or whatever it sucks. it splatters all over when opened after first use. it bothered me.

Umm can someone tell what are some good markers from krink that have the fat nib like the k-51 thanks.

[Sbal]

Markwells suck my left nut. Whenever you order morethan 15 dollars worth of shit from bs they give you a free one. Sell them to a dumb ass kid for 5 bucks

[Ne-One]

You Know What My Main Problem is With Markers.... If You're Tagging With Them And Someone See's It, They Can Just Tipex A Line Over It.... Thats Disrespectful, Seriously ¬¬

[truflke]

You Know What My Main Problem is With Markers.... If You're Tagging With Them And Someone See's It, They Can Just Tipex A Line Over It.... Thats Disrespectful, Seriously ¬¬

ya mon totally

[essen]

if you want a big nib marker on the cheap, Gardencraft by marvy uchida(same company that makes DecoColor) is great. The biggest you can get is a 15mm nib, and it uses the same pump system as OTR and Molotow. They sell them at Michael's

[..romero..]

well i started with these.....hangs head in shame lol
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm24/CobraMods/graff%20bits/29209_127990980546721_1000000745856.jpg
and these
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm24/CobraMods/graff%20bits/29209_127990950546724_1000000745856.jpg

those i bought at a thrift shop about 3 weeks ago when i decided to start writing again.

total waste of money (good they were cheap lol)

these are the ones i scored off ebay

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm24/CobraMods/graff%20bits/29209_127990923880060_1000000745856.jpg

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm24/CobraMods/graff%20bits/29209_127990897213396_1000000745856.jpg

ton of difference for coloring.

i have a few other tidbits i have collected in the past 2 weeks
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm24/CobraMods/graff%20bits/29209_127990847213401_1000000745856.jpg

surprisingly the bic markers arent bad


havent tried these out yet as i just got em today

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm24/CobraMods/graff%20bits/29209_127991857213300_1000000745856.jpg

quick inspection....

paper is babys ass smooth
feels even thinner than the paper in my other budget sketch book.
almost similar to copy paper in weight

i am gonna take a few days to toy around with it and see what difference it makes.
since i am not in this for the wall,train bombing scene all i need is good materials and a ton of practice to suit my needs.

i will throw up a pic once the rest of my copics come in




YOU KNOW THAT COPICS ARE LIKE THE SINGLE MOST EASILY STOLEN MARKERS OUT THERE RIGHT? hit up HOBBY LOBBY OR MICHEALS AND CHECK IT.THERES LIKE ONE CAMERA IN THE WHOLE GODDAMN STORE MAN.ITS ALL OLD PEOPLE AND LONELY MIDDLE AGED WOMEN WHO HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO BUT KNIT AND BUILD WREATHS THAT SHOP THERE..THEY ARENT PRIME SUSPECTS FOR RACKING HAHAHA.


seriously.you can boost like 3 or 4 a dat and keep coming back and within a couple of weeks you have a nice little stack of decent markers for fucking free.and little effort involved.

[canberraphotos]

Wow, these things make me remember my childhold !
___________________
Photographer Canberra (http://chriscanham.com/)

[extinct]

anything on bingo markers an speedball???.... the ink is to thin so i can only use it in black book... i need to get better ink or sumtin 2 thicken it

[Flawless Victory]

speedball isn't shit, man.
dump t out of your marker and use it for screenprinting.

[Phillip McDougall]

Have you guys seen the markers for the newest Sharpie Oil-Based? The nib-style and size is nearly identical to the K-71. And since they're oil-based, it'd be kind of like having GK in a marker...

I got like 5. I'll let you guys know how they are

[extinct]

...wat yall think of paint markers... like enemal an stuff... i had some of them... pretty good an i racked sum markers which used speedball... the flow isnt the best... but they r pretty good 2

[Sbal]

Hey Phil where did you get those at?

[Phillip McDougall]

Michael's Arts and Crafts, surprisingly. They have this brand new 8 foot box of sharpie paints. Just out in the open, too. I plan on going back sometime today or tomorrow to grab some oil-based and some water-based. I need colors for slaps. aha.

[Flawless Victory]

water based = lady coloring book :cool:

[Phillip McDougall]

haha but they don't have oil-based markers that look like bats ;)

plus I need waterbased for 1. Slaps, and 2. Tittayyyyys

[truflke]

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b230/GlamR-CuPe/4-1-1.jpg

Facepaint with Pilot will do.

I use the same shit :D

the nibs on those facepaint markers are fucking strong and it's only for a dollar... the lids are fucked though

[extinct]

i waz lookin at those today... shouldve thought bout fillin them up with some ink... so hard to rack when the local dollar store has like 2 cameras per isle an the tv on the register... fml

[Flawless Victory]

It's a DOLLAR store, homie. Pay the fucking dollar.

[Phillip McDougall]

I lol'd, ahhaha

[Aesir]

yea you don't need 30 of them shyts, just pay for it. lol

[curlz]

Homemade mop out of a Rubber Stamp cleaner.
Rubber stamp cleaner found at micheals or any craft store
they come with some shit cleaning stuff in side so make sure u get it out.
If your accidently get some of that shit on the nib make sure you get all the soap out of it.
just fill it up with ink. i used grog buff proof.
then cap it. and bomb.

[UNDERTHEICE]

sharpie paints blow horribly unless you throw some like alcohol or nail ploish remover cuz they give you nnooooooooooooo paint at all in them.get that shit nice n runny

[Phillip McDougall]

Aha I figured that out. I ended up just throwing the paint out. I'm gonna use the body and throw in ink

[SOUF420]

anyone here got pix of crazy marker modifications or homemade tools...?

[extinct]

has anybody used 1 of dem white out pens

[BoomSlang]

Yep bud, only thing i can advise is dont bother wasting your time. Messy, hard to control, and most of the time the white out dries on the tip leaving little chunks in your work. Better off getting either a deco or posca white paint pen. Much more control and alot less issues than the white out.

[Flawless Victory]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. you're doing it wrong.

[Phillip McDougall]

Oh lawdy.

[Flawless Victory]

For real though, if you are feeling shitty about white out pens, cop a presto.
If you can't get those to flow well for you, then it's you, not the marker.

[SOUF420]

Got a few bingo dabbers for free, Looked thru some homemade inks,why rust. paint?Is Pen Ink / Alocohol mix hard to remove?? Markers is a whole different ball game then spraycans.. plz help!

[truflke]

Got a few bingo dabbers for free, Looked thru some homemade inks,why rust. paint?Is Pen Ink / Alocohol mix hard to remove?? Markers is a whole different ball game then spraycans.. plz help!

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[SOUF420]

ill try to remember that.

[otter]

***** u ghey

[DONT.TRUST.KNOW.ONE]

Love silver uni-paints, silver deco colors with a fattend nib, white-out pens, and mops.

they're all just too buttery. not really down for fat paint markers unless your style suits it, otherwise it just looks tacky. my 2 cents.

[SOUF420]

truflke: I searched "Bingo Dabbers" and nothing turned up.. so im guess YOU owe ME $1,000,000,000 arsehole :P

[Sbal]

That's about three zeros more than he asked you.