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spiltink
12-05-2011, 02:12 PM
Is that homemade ink or shoe polish?

white paint who would write with shoe cum lol

it writes streaky but maybe if its thinner itl be less streaky in a few days i show you pic of how it writes maybe

Phillip McDougall
12-05-2011, 11:15 PM
that shit looks wack homie
garvey + marsh

BennyBoii
12-06-2011, 06:33 AM
-old paint bottle (like the squeezy type)
-super glue
-electrical tape
-foam, like from a materess

fold the foam, electrical tape the ends together, glue the ends of the tape, Take a knife and widen the spout of the paint tube. Glue the foam head to the hole. go graff
:D
u should post that in the step by step thread
made many of those before, close to half of them fucked me over :confused:

spiltink
12-06-2011, 02:19 PM
that shit looks wack homie
garvey + marsh

i cant get either of them

Phillip McDougall
12-06-2011, 03:01 PM
100 ballpoint pens + 3/4 cup of 91% alcohol + jar with lid + fish oil tablets + any staining powder
Throw it in a marker. Not a mop.
Honestly, I don't see too much of a point in going out of my way to make all the "crazy staining super duper ink recipes" because the time I could have spent making it is time I could be spending getting up with ghetto krink, which doesn't fade, but is relatively easy to clean. I don't know. If a city wants to paint over something, they're going to paint over it, no matter how many coats of paint it takes. Just hit the same spot again for shits and giggles.

spiltink
12-07-2011, 02:58 PM
i have a problem finding isopropyl alcahol or any kind of thing thats useful in making ink

i live in the uk

and with the buff if i see a very slight fade of the tag ill go over it the exact same to confuse them

spher
12-07-2011, 05:04 PM
hahahaha nicce ^^
i love fucking with buffmen

oversprae mds
12-08-2011, 02:50 PM
Go to walmart and rack a Bite MD cutter.
pop the nib off and empty out the fluid and wash off the container and nib.
fill it with any ink of your choosing and its ready to go!
this marker is ill and its very similar to Art Primo's Toxic Shocker.
44231
44232
44233

HipsterPunks
12-08-2011, 03:26 PM
oversprae does it squeeze good? i cant get smash to flow out my pen mops. i have that teal legit but it fucks up my nibs in a couple days

oversprae mds
12-08-2011, 03:49 PM
it doesnt really squeeze at all but I just added a little bit of paint thinner to the ink so it flows better cause yea smash will fuck your nibs up its too thick

-NiSe-
12-08-2011, 03:55 PM
That looks sick ima get that :)

oversprae mds
12-08-2011, 03:57 PM
for sure Its pretty ill I discovered this shit the other day, I cant stop using this marker now its just so convenient.

CANADIANA
12-08-2011, 06:34 PM
those markers are dope, and teal legit is some of the best shit ever!
But yeah, id make sure you use it all in one night. It gums up after about a week of no use.

MTK
12-08-2011, 06:49 PM
yo mds you from new mexico.. im in abq

nd i will upload some pics of my first mop and where to get it... it was alright but nib went fast after writing on to many brickwalls nd what not.

oversprae mds
12-08-2011, 09:52 PM
right on, I lived up in albuquerque for a while thats where I got into graff.

But word, I'm always down to cop some new mops

Risk_Inicijativa
12-10-2011, 07:50 AM
yo guys, I must ask you, what are cool and cheap markers for sketching? I have 60 markers but they sucks :(

re$in
12-10-2011, 01:34 PM
who noes how to make like hella good tips with stuff u get around the house cuz so far my nibs dont let ink flow soo good

oversprae mds
12-10-2011, 01:37 PM
who noes how to make like hella good tips with stuff u get around the house cuz so far my nibs dont let ink flow soo good

if you can find a chalk board eraser use a strip from that and roll it up to fit your mop thats what I always do or go rack some shoe shine and fill it with your own ink.

Saul Gud
12-10-2011, 06:12 PM
We love bombing Science and all of it's Markers!
http://www.youtube.com/user/GraffitiStreetArt1?feature=mhee#p/a/u/2/KaRjx8uDbWE
http://www.youtube.com/user/GraffitiStreetArt1?feature=mhee#p/a/u/1/D9yR3a_Umno
http://www.youtube.com/user/GraffitiStreetArt1?feature=mhee#p/a/u/0/bL3Dj2aMWLM

City of Trees
12-11-2011, 09:33 PM
my fav is a stamp cleaner wit some paint n it.. u got ur self a nice paint mop

cornholio31337
12-15-2011, 08:55 AM
i have a problem finding isopropyl alcahol or any kind of thing thats useful in making ink

i live in the uk

and with the buff if i see a very slight fade of the tag ill go over it the exact same to confuse them



methylated spirits or turps works ok but u need to thicken it up. dot 4 clutch/brake fluid is ok but not the best

Phillip McDougall
12-15-2011, 01:45 PM
don't use brake fluid

cornholio31337
12-15-2011, 02:04 PM
its not the best but kinda works. what else is better?

plumbererer
12-18-2011, 12:31 AM
dont use it at all. get over the break fluid. its not some magic elixer or additive. do you even know why you are using it? what its supposed to do in the mixture?

BennyBoii
12-18-2011, 05:56 AM
slow down the drying time to allow the INK not paint to sink in

cornholio31337
12-19-2011, 06:49 AM
speeds up drying time so some fag dont come and wipe it away before the ink soaks in

BennyBoii
12-19-2011, 07:15 AM
yes, but if they do that then they will have ink on there hand and fuck there day up :)

cornholio31337
12-19-2011, 07:41 AM
yeah good point. no such a bad thing after all :D

spiltink
12-19-2011, 03:58 PM
idiots it is so it corrodes into the surface

DEXA
12-19-2011, 05:39 PM
what type of marker do you get at 500 credits?

DEXA
12-19-2011, 05:41 PM
i wanna molotow plzz hehe

-NiSe-
12-19-2011, 06:11 PM
Its a random marker you dont choose

criscros18
12-21-2011, 10:35 AM
OK so i saw this really cool way of graffing. You take a spray bottle, fill it up with ink and then use that to bomb. So i tried it…. it sucks. dont do it…

Phillip McDougall
12-21-2011, 11:15 AM
hahahahahahahahahaha

you gotta be trollin
freals

-NiSe-
12-22-2011, 03:06 PM
Anybody have those limited edition sharpies .... the 80's glam shit? looks like a nice array of colors.

Fang
12-23-2011, 08:55 AM
Can I use calligraphy ink in a homemade marker? I'm too lazy to make my own ink.

CANADIANA
12-26-2011, 02:07 PM
You can, but it sucks.

Take-One
12-26-2011, 02:15 PM
Say if I had the Markwell XL paint marker, and it finally ran out of paint, would it be fine to throw some grog ink in there? (after i rinse it out nicely obviously)

Also, is it okay to mix inks together, like purple grog, black grog, montana tinta, and some hard2buff etc?

Fang
12-26-2011, 04:35 PM
^ yes to both questions, but make sure u replace the nib. and only mix small amounts of ink first, test it, them mix more if u are satisfied

spiltink
12-26-2011, 08:30 PM
I would stick to mixing inks of the same type

Take-One
01-02-2012, 11:35 PM
^ yes to both questions, but make sure u replace the nib. and only mix small amounts of ink first, test it, them mix more if u are satisfied

Oh fantastic, thanks.

The only confusion i have with this is, I don't know how i'm going to get another nib for the markwell XL. I suppose I could make a makeshift one, but I don't even know where to get that kind of foam.


I would stick to mixing inks of the same type

Oh thanks, I'll keep that in mind.

BennyBoii
01-03-2012, 04:29 AM
just buy a flowpen nib

Fang
01-03-2012, 08:42 PM
@Take-one check ebay, online graff stores, and anything like that for the XL nib

ILUVCASH
01-06-2012, 12:26 AM
49720
New Dope marker I made with electrical tape, a kiwi shoe polish bottle, a few minutes, and some Gold digger gold smash ink! :D Going to kill some shit with it tomorrow.

BennyBoii
01-07-2012, 07:27 AM
looks sick, how is the gold smash because im looking into buying some

CANADIANA
01-07-2012, 06:13 PM
Dont put that smash into the kiwi.

-NiSe-
01-07-2012, 10:57 PM
Hey guys i have a krink-k71 and im almost out of ink, would Grog ink work well?

BennyBoii
01-07-2012, 10:59 PM
grog isn't the best it fades and puts up no fight when it comes to the buff

-NiSe-
01-07-2012, 11:12 PM
haha says its buff proof, well any suggestions on a good ink for the krink k71 ?????

BennyBoii
01-08-2012, 12:12 AM
there's lots of inks u could use, otr flowpen ink, black label, pilot, garvey, money shot and if u clean out the inside, pump and get a new nib u could fill it up with paint

Take-One
01-08-2012, 02:14 AM
@Take-one check ebay, online graff stores, and anything like that for the XL nib

Thanks for the tip man, will do.

-NiSe-
01-08-2012, 09:32 AM
there's lots of inks u could use, otr flowpen ink, black label, pilot, garvey, money shot and if u clean out the inside, pump and get a new nib u could fill it up with paintThanks man ..... how good is the witches brew shit???

BennyBoii
01-10-2012, 10:17 PM
i have never used it, but i hear it's very thick. you might want to think it down with a thinner ink. maybe garvey or **** as there pretty thin.

Saul Gud
01-11-2012, 09:22 PM
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livid saight bdown

CANADIANA
01-12-2012, 03:15 PM
Nice, but wrong thread.

Saul Gud
01-12-2012, 05:07 PM
Nice, but wrong thread. Variety of drawings and stickers using a variety of markers and homemade recipes. Second one down is a mixture of Grog metal paint with blue ink. once used the ink separates and instantly outlines your tag and drips.

BennyBoii
01-13-2012, 07:09 PM
sounds legit

londonislove
01-15-2012, 07:57 AM
use a shoe cleaner bottle

Nikkoli A Gonzalez
01-15-2012, 11:08 PM
i personally like the ink made with around 50 pens,dot3 brake fluid,and over 70% rubbing alcohol...it drips and last a long time

Nikkoli A Gonzalez
01-15-2012, 11:12 PM
5109551096 old

m aster of seduction
01-17-2012, 01:40 PM
see no markers just some bad lettering

morganfreeman
01-27-2012, 03:06 PM
my sock never stays in the bottle

threethirty
01-27-2012, 03:40 PM
Has anyone else bought an Ultra-Wide from Illadel or just ever used a real Ultra/Uni wide? In the video with Preone on youtube his tags come out a little bit streaky but I can't even get a slightly-streaky tag out of mine. I spent $30 on it and filled it with some Black Label ink, which supposedly flows through "all markers", I filled the marker to the top and dabbed some ink of the nib after putting it in. I held it upside down and squeezed it so it flooded and dripped but the tags I've been getting look like the markers almost out of ink. Can Black Label really flow through a Uni or should I have used something like Pilot ink? I've seen pictures of the subway in the 70's and 80's and the tags look sick, but I can't get anything out of mine. Should I fill it again or use another ink all together? I know they're hard to use anyway and I'm a toy but I think I should at least be able to get a solid straight line with it. I also hold the marker like a description I found on a site like Subway Outlaws or something which was how a lot of writers held them back in the day to write with them. It's awkward but supposedly works.

Mikeum
02-01-2012, 12:33 PM
im kinda new, just got a molotow 620 marker. is it me, or do they suck ass? its so streaky, been tryin it for like an hour, wasted like 50 sheets of paper. it just looks like crap. i have an old monster colors marker, which is a bit streaky, but nowhere near as streaky as the molotow. it just looks like a sharpie very low on ink

is there something im missing here? tried shaking it a bunch of times, pressing down the nib till there was literally a puddle of paint on the paper, still streaked within like 5 secs. also tried putting the marker in a sock and spinning it. filled this lid up with ink but still streaked tons

anything i can do to fix this? or if not, anyone got any suggestions for a better marker with around the same size nib, that does solid lines

Mikeum
02-01-2012, 12:37 PM
sorry, when i say streaky i mean, the line is just very inconsistent. it just looks like theres not much ink left

eipe
02-04-2012, 01:24 PM
So i have a Montana Hardcore 30mm marker that Ive been playing with. I recently bought some Grog Ink and filled the hardcore. When i was filling it,i found the thread (to open it) went in the opposite direction to what i expected and i managed to strip a few lines off (dam). Then once id filled it and bled the new ink through i found the marker is barely working. Its not leaving a good line and flow seems to be an issue.

Now i assume this is due to mixing the Grog ink with the OG "water based ink" that came in the marker. I'm looking for a new nib... but i cant seem to find them branded for the hardcore... is the 30mm nib the same as the nibs/tops for the "transformer" ?

Im kinda tempted to pour out the Grog ink and throw the thing in the bin. Cheap as they are, i would like to know why it has issues mixing those inks.

master of seductions
02-04-2012, 08:46 PM
my sock never stays in the bottle

dont we all have that problem

eipe
02-05-2012, 09:38 AM
This might be dumb, but what markers/mops are suitable for paint/ghettokrink type liquids... i get the impression that ghetto krink/paint might ruin some of the marker nibs or not flow so well.

PlanetVegeta
02-05-2012, 01:06 PM
never go wrong with pilots. small chisel or the normal lrg marker. just yo stay fresh i'll buy a blue one, throw a little red pilot refill ink in there and wha- la... purple pilot tags looking fresh on the streets. try practicing on magazines instead of paper though, it won't wear down your nibs as fast.

HipsterPunks
02-08-2012, 12:17 PM
http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd488/chadhipster/bomb.jpg i go hard with this beast, I hacked this marker and modified it all out son!

0nly10fmikind
02-12-2012, 03:29 AM
i found an old window marker i bucked frm a grocery store, filled it with red acrylic paint while at school then put some alcohol in it. i can catch mad drippin tags on signs,windows an power boxes.

twisties
02-12-2012, 05:15 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlXpgN5EqU4&feature=related
thought this was interestin

noverNYC
02-14-2012, 05:59 PM
http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x400/novernyc/419789_10150760062678942_623463941_12140799_170793 3263_n.jpg

noverNYC
02-14-2012, 06:00 PM
http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x400/novernyc/IMG_3702.jpg

logesoner
02-17-2012, 05:06 AM
I would defiantly recommend the Krink K-60. One of the best mops i've used. Its not super drippy but very nice to write with. I would defiantly think about investing in one of those bad boys.

B-36
02-19-2012, 01:35 PM
Midget NYC, BITCH

55198

Phat 2
02-19-2012, 01:53 PM
if I'm not mistaken, you can't squeeze that.
fail

master of seductions
02-19-2012, 08:05 PM
Midget NYC, BITCH

penus

macs suck


~~~~~~~~


THE BEST GRAFITI WRITING TOULE!!!

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13341191/a/SAM_0095.JPG

I CAN COPCATCH ABOUT 100 FILL INS WITH THIS GRAFFIYI BOMBING TOUL

SO YOU KNOWE ITS ME I PUT MY COPE3 TAG

B-36
02-20-2012, 04:05 AM
if I'm not mistaken, you can't squeeze that.
fail

Does it feel better if I squeeze while its still inside or what?




55342

B-36
02-20-2012, 04:08 AM
macs suck


~~~~~~~~


THE BEST GRAFITI WRITING TOULE!!!

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13341191/a/SAM_0095.JPG

I CAN COPCATCH ABOUT 100 FILL INS WITH THIS GRAFFIYI BOMBING TOUL

SO YOU KNOWE ITS ME I PUT MY COPE3 TAG

Is that the fingerboard edition from IronLag?

master of seductions
02-20-2012, 09:48 AM
no thats gay u must be a t0y

while on the 0ther h4nd i am K1Ng Of GrAfF toules

STOXY
02-21-2012, 08:10 AM
i just ordered a moltow dripstick and montana crush with some grog buff proof ink heard the drip stick is supposed to be good

KillahChop
02-26-2012, 09:01 PM
So im just wondering if anyone had any tips or recipes for a how to homemade metal tip marker?

sofargone561
02-29-2012, 11:28 AM
looking for a dope mop and marker and ink suggestions -please?

Slushi
02-29-2012, 03:44 PM
macs suck


~~~~~~~~


THE BEST GRAFITI WRITING TOULE!!!

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13341191/a/SAM_0095.JPG

I CAN COPCATCH ABOUT 100 FILL INS WITH THIS GRAFFIYI BOMBING TOUL

SO YOU KNOWE ITS ME I PUT MY COPE3 TAG
Why is this user banned? This is the post of the century right here.

master of shittenge
03-03-2012, 07:47 AM
well its a long story but you should start a petition if you feel strongly about this subject

sofargone561
03-03-2012, 02:44 PM
I just bought a krink k60 (red), molotow burner marker (black), Markal paint stick (blue), and a red Grog metal head marker (red), I also have silver and a black Montana markers that i got from Micheal's.

master of shiny shit
03-10-2012, 06:58 PM
did your mommy pay for them

flyinsqrl
03-12-2012, 12:53 PM
Yo yo yo, i've been lurking for a while and finally decided to register, i just stick with your typical refillable OTR markers, or find the cheap ones at art stores, basically the same marker just cheaper plastic, but they are refillable and only cost like $4 and the ink in em isn't too bad

NOKi
03-12-2012, 07:16 PM
Garnier fructis (or how ever it's spellled) makes an eye makeup with the roller ball in the top of it only issue is there is no flow regulator so it leaks when the ball is down nice screw on lid though also only way to put ink in is by making a small cut near the bottom just super glue it up an use tape an that shouldn't leak when you got the bottom down. I'll ge some flicks of finished work just drying it out right now from getting the make up out of it but it's a phat roller ball.

millie
03-13-2012, 10:50 AM
some dude said somthin about etch dude that shit is bad,

saveme
03-13-2012, 11:31 AM
The easy and cheep way to make a very nice drippy mop if you have a dollar store " every things a dollar " very cool dollar tree i live in cleveland so if none of these places make sence sorry go there buy a bingo marker or a winddow paint marker $1 i like the bingo !! buy a bottle of dot 3 brake fluid $1 then go to pat catans its a art and craft store thay sell bottles of 6oz india ink black ist $6.50 it gos along way!! and a bottle of rit clothing dye u can get there or wall mart its around $3.50 big bottle take the tip off the marker you might need plyers sometimes tha are on there tight pore out the bingo die fill the marker about half full of india ink and almost the est wit the rit dye and jus about a 1/8 of it brake fluid its not an exct scince iv ben doin thes sence the mid 90s put on tip shake n bomb shit verrrrrryyyyy dripppyyyy !!! n hard to buff , wit all the stuff it should make about 4-5 markers worth not bad 4 $12 !!r58117

NOKi
03-13-2012, 11:52 AM
I used to be on the india ink but it's water based so it washs off like nothing yo they could prob take rubbing alc an get that off to be honest, Shoulda just went an got some real ink or made some pen ink. I'm not a big fan of the dot 3 either I find it's a waste of filler an it eats ur mop. I don't mind the rit though it may be fabric dye but it still stains like fuck, I put some powdered stuff in my ink mix I got going now an it's pretty thick shit yo the powder just won't disolve just sits at the bottom but either way I can just use it for next batch an so on till the color is gone then. Bingo dabbers are good minus the weak ass nib on them tears after like one or two walls.

I mentioned adding pics of the metal ball tip marker I made but my krazy glue dried up in the little tube so I got to get more to seal it up then pics will be up of it in action. If it works good I'll give picsa of a tutorial.

NOKi
03-13-2012, 11:53 AM
MSB all day with ur india ink lol.

ven0m
03-14-2012, 09:20 AM
yo does anyone know if the molotow 25mm dripstick replacement nib fits on a 25mm grog squeezer
and what's the difference between long hair nibs and cotton nibs? I heard one's for ink and the other's for paint? is it true? which is for which?

NOKi
03-14-2012, 09:31 AM
Garnier fructis (or how ever it's spellled) makes an eye makeup with the roller ball in the top of it only issue is there is no flow regulator so it leaks when the ball is down nice screw on lid though also only way to put ink in is by making a small cut near the bottom just super glue it up an use tape an that shouldn't leak when you got the bottom down. I'll ge some flicks of finished work just drying it out right now from getting the make up out of it but it's a phat roller ball.

So I ran some ink through it just to see how it would come out it was a nice red ink but I didn't think to wear gloves an now my hands look like I killed sombody lol. My krazy glue dried up in the lil tube so I couldn't close the ass end up properly but it's just like I thought no flow regulator in it so all the ink just flows passed the ball. Do I really need a lil spring in there for it to work with ink without turning myself into a smurf etc? and If I used say ghetto krink instead of pen ink mix would it be better, if I made it a lil thicker I mean?

saveme
03-14-2012, 04:07 PM
the india ink i get is called yasutomo sumi black ink sry its not really inda n that shit stains like fuck i did this stop sign wit that mix about 4 years ago my friend sayied thay tryed to buff it twice and you can still see it 4 yrs l8r . as 4 the d0t 3 it acts as an etch it pretty much eats away at shit n the bingo ya tip suck but there good thero aways !!! thnx 4 the feedback

NOKi
03-14-2012, 04:26 PM
Inida ink or any ink base you get at the doller store for calig is water based, anything water bassed gets buffed like nothing yo. That's like writing on a wall with a crayola marker an being liek ya this shit is unbuffable. I made a india ink mix when I was younger an you can still see some what of a ghost but doesn't mean anything it was the rain an sun that faded it I don't think anybody tried to buff it just because of it's location an if they get paint bam it's gone no matter how new it is it won't bleed threw. Dot3 eats plastic or anything organic really but anything rubber or metal it don't do shit just like saying use fish oil tablets so it takes longer to dry. think about it yo it's ment to go in brake lines. You might as well get some acrylic paint an thin it out a bit an put it in your mop man prob be more vivid colors even.

HipsterPunks
03-14-2012, 06:20 PM
yo does anyone know if the molotow 25mm dripstick replacement nib fits on a 25mm grog squeezer
and what's the difference between long hair nibs and cotton nibs? I heard one's for ink and the other's for paint? is it true? which is for which?
Idk about the replace nib, but cotton nibs suck ass. I got a pack from **** art, and simple garvey wouldn't even flow through it. Cotton nibs aslo fray very easily even on smooth surfaces completly ruining the flow, good luck trying it with paint. Mohair nibs are the shit, I even got smash to flow through them and they last forever, I hit a curb and the mop was fine

saveme
03-14-2012, 06:22 PM
grog squeezer is one of my favs lov the ink in it only dislikes its hard to find replacement tips/nubs if your lookin for badass theroaways check out on what i wrote yesterday

looking for a dope mop and marker and ink suggestions -please?

NOKi
03-14-2012, 07:15 PM
Idk about the replace nib, but cotton nibs suck ass. I got a pack from **** art, and simple garvey wouldn't even flow through it. Cotton nibs aslo fray very easily even on smooth surfaces completly ruining the flow, good luck trying it with paint. Mohair nibs are the shit, I even got smash to flow through them and they last forever, I hit a curb and the mop was fine

Agreed cotton nibs are only good for signs an shit that is smooth as ma nuts an half the time like Hipster said they frey like mad.

saveme
03-14-2012, 07:31 PM
im sure you got your resipies that work and i know my shit dose cuz ive seen places that have painted and buffed ill make a vid showing making it and using it and that it holds up to b n buffed or painted , as for dot 3 it eats paint n clear coat !!! y do u think so many ppl put um in there markers jus 4 fun cuz it fux painted walls iv maid markers out of mostly of dot3 jus for that!!! I worked at a body shop and a coustmer brought in a car from his repair shop cuz his dumb fuck mecanic left a leaking bottle of brake fluid on a car over the weekend n it fuked it up!!! we had to re paint the whole hood , so i know a bit a bout paints and d0t3 if u dont beleve me pore a bottle on ur car 2night let me know the outcome ...http://www.ehow.com/video_2326810_brake-fluid-can-eat-paint.html o is base coat clear coat organic now??do ur homework b 4 u try n knock me!! QUOTE=NOKi;1782263]Inida ink or any ink base you get at the doller store for calig is water based, anything water bassed gets buffed like nothing yo. That's like writing on a wall with a crayola marker an being liek ya this shit is unbuffable. I made a india ink mix when I was younger an you can still see some what of a ghost but doesn't mean anything it was the rain an sun that faded it I don't think anybody tried to buff it just because of it's location an if they get paint bam it's gone no matter how new it is it won't bleed threw. Dot3 eats plastic or anything organic really but anything rubber or metal it don't do shit just like saying use fish oil tablets so it takes longer to dry. think about it yo it's ment to go in brake lines. You might as well get some acrylic paint an thin it out a bit an put it in your mop man prob be more vivid colors even.[/QUOTE]

saveme
03-14-2012, 07:53 PM
n if u want a quick chemistry lession dot3 dosnt eat plastic or thay wouldn't put it in a plastic , sulfuric acid and numanc acid dosnt eat pvc plastic cuz that thats what thay transfer it in but it will fuck up steel concrete wood exc nitric acid wont eat stainless steel but fuks up about every thing else. i also worked at a metal plating shop when i was young so iv ben around i know a lil bit. im now a tattoo artist 4 the past 6yrs so if u wana comment on that try me

subcyde
03-14-2012, 08:02 PM
i made a marker out of a litlle kidstick gluestick its fucking sweet and dosent look like its for graffing at all

NOKi
03-14-2012, 08:50 PM
n if u want a quick chemistry lession dot3 dosnt eat plastic or thay wouldn't put it in a plastic , sulfuric acid and numanc acid dosnt eat pvc plastic cuz that thats what thay transfer it in but it will fuck up steel concrete wood exc nitric acid wont eat stainless steel but fuks up about every thing else. i also worked at a metal plating shop when i was young so iv ben around i know a lil bit. im now a tattoo artist 4 the past 6yrs so if u wana comment on that try me

Look at the bottom of the jug it comes in prob has the lil triangle with a 3 or something maybe a 2 there's dif grades of plastic for dif chems so hows that for a chemistry lesson there bud. As you said you have your recipes an I got mine and just because 1 000 000 people drive daily with out a seat belt don't mean it's a good thing. I'd like to see some flicks an what not because I could be wrong it might withstand a buff or even bleed threw some tremclad or rusto but I doubt it, if it does congrats yo good job.
Ask people about calig ink man and you'll prob get that answer so before you knock me do your research man an honestly if you think you're making an unbuffable ink you're wrong but hey like you said to each their own now how about an end to this ebeef?

Back on the marker subject though I made a dope mop outta a old LAKOTA roll on bottle sh!ts phat as hell got a dope batch of ghetto krink I made it's a nice dark purp almost black. too once I get some nib material I'll get some flicks.

NOKi
03-14-2012, 08:58 PM
^^^^^^also on that link.

You're only going to be going over painted surfaces? all that showed me is how it works as a buff for paint :\

saveme
03-14-2012, 10:13 PM
all good man no beef here if none wit you each there own its def not un buffable jus nice cheep thero aways back when i started u couldent jus go on the internet n buy shit we would rack tips n make shit how ever we tryed cuz we couldnt find um for sale som times we would drive to ny city 8hr to a place called bomb the system it was the only graph place , whats ur receipes? id like to try um !!

NOKi
03-14-2012, 11:05 PM
All my recipes are from here an 12oz yo, the ink/paint I made is just akrylic purple paint real dark an I mixed it with a blue pen mix with a lil red I know paint an ink don't mix but the two together works good seeing as it's not oil based paint but water based just shake the sh!t an you're set I need to add a bit more iso though just to thin it out I topped it up with some more paint an it got a lil thick for anything but a kiwi. Well idk if it's to thick for other mops but I don't wanna risk it really it would prob work good in the ball pen I made though. It was a garnier fructis eye roller makeup thing just it has no flow regulator in it an just straight ink is way to thin an just leaks every where so it prob would work, I put some red in an like I said it looked like I killed somebody. I got a nice batch of somthing else going but it's my secret recipe if it works maybe I'll trade yah some I'll get flicks as soon as I get more iso an some felt an other nib material or a bingo dabber.

saveme
03-15-2012, 07:49 AM
thanx 4 the info ill hav 2 give it a try then post som pix!!

Bushido Graffiti
03-15-2012, 08:06 PM
Has anyone used the Molotow alch markers? they look like the ironlack strickers but a lil cheaper ? I pretty much just use sharpies but wondering if anyone has spend the money on those?

ven0m
03-15-2012, 09:54 PM
lol fuck getting replacement nibs, im just gonna get a new empty one with the mohair nib haha shit only costs like 50cents more than just the replacement nib

NOKi
03-15-2012, 10:12 PM
I don't even buy brand name mops or markers waste of money in my oppinion I could spend that sh!t on weed an boose. Go wrack yourself a kiwi and you're set yo or even some roll on deoderant an put a piece of sponge with a sock over it yo.

ven0m
03-16-2012, 06:15 PM
too lazy my man. and it's only 4 fucking $. well worth a good squeeze friendly grog with a proper nib and everything... fuck going through the hassle of making one.
you're talking to a lazy lazy LAZY man

graff437
03-16-2012, 07:08 PM
this should help

never tryed a markwell marker any won know if they are good?

ven0m
03-17-2012, 02:03 PM
meeeh.. they're fine. not the best.. but they're alright

NOKi
03-17-2012, 08:28 PM
too lazy my man. and it's only 4 fucking $. well worth a good squeeze friendly grog with a proper nib and everything... fuck going through the hassle of making one.
you're talking to a lazy lazy LAZY man

Lol I hear that but meh you spent the time writing that ^ I don' mind putting in the work plus I can make way fatter/doper nibs then on a brand mop but a good grog friendly mop is always a plus.

NOKi
03-18-2012, 09:56 AM
Lol I hear that but meh you spent the time writing that ^ I don' mind putting in the work plus I can make way fatter/doper nibs then on a brand mop but a good grog friendly mop is always a plus.

On this note I've made some good ghetto junobo/krink an was woundering if I try to use my homemade mop with a felt nib in it will it flow still? Or am I better off just getting some sponge an a sock?? I've been looking everywhere an can't seem to find what a junobo mop nib is made from I just don't want to ruin sit I don't need too.

marker_king
03-22-2012, 02:29 AM
im trying to get some things to make NYC homemade mop. Im getting there. XP

NOKi
03-22-2012, 11:04 AM
im trying to get some things to make NYC homemade mop. Im getting there. XP

Just go grab some bingo dabbers I have like a million extras yo everytime i hit up a $1 store or wallmart i grab like 5 or 6 lol I used a buncha shit actually a LAKOTA roll on thing works bomb to just not that squeezible but it makes a solid no leaking fat an when I say fat I mean fat nibbed mop.

marker_king
03-23-2012, 01:44 AM
Awesome great idea thanks
:)

millie
03-28-2012, 09:33 AM
if you take a lil nasal spay bottle and put a spray bottle top that screws on and off with the lid u don't have to screw on and off then its boss like u can just unscrew it to refill it i like paint with paint thinner for ink its so easy to make but try that out and the naal spray bottle is sweet because u can squeeze it alot its sweet

millie
03-28-2012, 09:42 AM
Garnier fructis (or how ever it's spellled) makes an eye makeup with the roller ball in the top of it only issue is there is no flow regulator so it leaks when the ball is down nice screw on lid though also only way to put ink in is by making a small cut near the bottom just super glue it up an use tape an that shouldn't leak when you got the bottom down. I'll ge some flicks of finished work just drying it out right now from getting the make up out of it but it's a phat roller ball. dude i got one of those it has like aattery and electrical shit in it so like i can't fix it for that what should i do?

NOKi
03-29-2012, 11:30 AM
dude i got one of those it has like aattery and electrical shit in it so like i can't fix it for that what should i do?

What you trying to say?
Your comment above that too I didn't understand?

aiko
03-29-2012, 01:28 PM
today i stepped on my metal krink marker and it squished :(

NOKi
03-30-2012, 12:20 AM
today i stepped on my metal krink marker and it squished :(

I always squish my shit or bend them, thats why I just make my own outta an old sharpie works just ass good as any other brand marker.

aiko
03-30-2012, 01:23 PM
yeah i really need to pick up some felt to make a few.

anyway, I'm going to order my free marker from BS right after this post. yessssss

Coleo
03-30-2012, 03:10 PM
im stuck whats the best solid marker(s) to use? ive only used the junobo and their dry as fuck

corome
04-07-2012, 11:31 AM
I go through about 1 or 2 of these a month, and i had a whole bunch of empty ones laying around so i took off the nose tip and pluged it with felt eraser, and it works amasing. its really squisable so you can get good drips, and its pocket sized.
heres what i used.
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Also a ketchup bottle filled with straight house paint, or your own thick mixture paint makes great works on sidewalks, white paint works best.

corome
04-07-2012, 09:21 PM
this might help
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Risk_Inicijativa
04-08-2012, 04:27 AM
this might help
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I dont understand?

Atom615
04-08-2012, 05:49 PM
I just get a kiwi mop from walmart or something and fill it up with homemade ink .
Green Paint
Rubbing Alchohal
DOT3 brake fluid ( makes it stain. )

marshall-uk
04-09-2012, 09:09 AM
63336

can any1 recommend these ????

millie
04-10-2012, 01:01 PM
if im just like, bored i'll take a marker like a high lighter pul all the shit out and put a stirrer in and ink a lil bit o' chalk board eraser telt then tape up the bottom just to be safe,

millie
04-10-2012, 01:08 PM
What you trying to say?
Your comment above that too I didn't understand?

lol sorry i htink its what your talking about but its got alot of electrical shit inside that i can't fucken get out >.<

saveme
04-10-2012, 04:41 PM
i like makn nubs outa steel wool it dosnt get destroyed lik the fabric n it etches up what ur taggin !!

zachatnca
04-11-2012, 12:43 AM
i've tried many of these and the only one worth while is bingo makers and shoe polish things, the rest just leak and make a mess and are not consitant at all

zachatnca
04-11-2012, 12:45 AM
63679
does anyone know how to make something to get ink into its a pump system with a removable nib

twisties
04-11-2012, 06:26 AM
63336

can any1 recommend these ????
I always wondered how they'd work out in general. Curious also.

dmgraff
04-11-2012, 11:47 AM
either sakura solids or markwell
i have sakura beause they have a cap and a case so i can put them in my pocket but from what i have heard the markwell have alot more paint and there cheaper so you choose

marshall-uk
04-11-2012, 12:44 PM
I always wondered how they'd work out in general. Curious also.

yeah they are quite cheap and they look like good markers but i cant find any reviews on them

HëRbN
04-11-2012, 05:51 PM
I just get a kiwi mop from walmart or something and fill it up with homemade ink .
Green Paint
Rubbing Alchohal
DOT3 brake fluid ( makes it stain. )

NO NO NO. Paint And alc dont mix for one.. and DOT3 does not stain. it prolongs dry time. You have this all wrong. No one listen to this guy, hes full of poo And ink and paint can not be intermixed.

HëRbN
04-11-2012, 05:54 PM
63679
does anyone know how to make something to get ink into its a pump system with a removable nib


If you can find a small enough funnel or something similair you can take the nib out, push in the pump valve and basically reverse fill them. Its a pain in the ass though and almost unworth it. the only time ive bothered is with a silver metallic. Also some valve markers can be taken apart and just dont look like they can, like elmers painters, you can get the whole valve assembly off

graffitiWISCONSIN
04-12-2012, 01:43 PM
face painters, bingo dabbers, kiwi bottles, tic tac containers, bo sticks, um thoose clear eye containers with a sock on the end my bud does that gets mad drips!!!
but best is tremclad bucket paint silver put into face painter and squeeeze it all out on one drippy ass tag... peez

I gotta agree with u. in shoe polish bottles I only put paint though just because I prefer paint over ink any day. it just looks a lot cooler & the colors are so sexy.

graffitiWISCONSIN
04-12-2012, 01:49 PM
I just get a kiwi mop from walmart or something and fill it up with homemade ink .
Green Paint
Rubbing Alchohal
DOT3 brake fluid ( makes it stain. )

don't use alcohol with paint or dot3. dot3 only works with ink. paint isn't really made to stain it's just good to stand out & show up. u also have to use paint thinner & nothing else

graffitiWISCONSIN
04-12-2012, 01:52 PM
I used 1 of those blistex roll on chapstick things with the steel ball. u take like a nail file or something to pop the ball off the there's 3 plastic things in there that act as a flow restrictor. just break those off with the nail file. then pour your ink or paint in. I used some india ink that I got from school. u have to keep the marker vertical when u tag otherwise it won't work.

graffitiWISCONSIN
04-12-2012, 01:55 PM
grog ink sucks dude. everything grog sucks because there solvents are shitty & it'll warp almost any mop. the ink fades in a matter of days. **** ink & illadel ink are the best inks on the market because they're both fade proof & they both are super opaque.

graffitiWISCONSIN
04-12-2012, 02:00 PM
Has anyone else bought an Ultra-Wide from Illadel or just ever used a real Ultra/Uni wide? In the video with Preone on youtube his tags come out a little bit streaky but I can't even get a slightly-streaky tag out of mine. I spent $30 on it and filled it with some Black Label ink, which supposedly flows through "all markers", I filled the marker to the top and dabbed some ink of the nib after putting it in. I held it upside down and squeezed it so it flooded and dripped but the tags I've been getting look like the markers almost out of ink. Can Black Label really flow through a Uni or should I have used something like Pilot ink? I've seen pictures of the subway in the 70's and 80's and the tags look sick, but I can't get anything out of mine. Should I fill it again or use another ink all together? I know they're hard to use anyway and I'm a toy but I think I should at least be able to get a solid straight line with it. I also hold the marker like a description I found on a site like Subway Outlaws or something which was how a lot of writers held them back in the day to write with them. It's awkward but supposedly works.

bl2 is a bit thicker. use thinner alcohol based type inks. pilot ink is pretty good ink but not as hard staining as bl2. any thin alcohol based ink should work just fine. i've personnaly never use bl2 or an ultrawide but I talk to the guy who owns illadel every day & he tells me about all this stuff

HëRbN
04-12-2012, 02:05 PM
A 5 of your total posts were made right then in a row lol. Couldnt summerize?

CANADIANA
04-14-2012, 03:57 PM
bl2 is a bit thicker. use thinner alcohol based type inks. pilot ink is pretty good ink but not as hard staining as bl2. any thin alcohol based ink should work just fine. i've personnaly never use bl2 or an ultrawide but I talk to the guy who owns illadel every day & he tells me about all this stuff

A friend of mine had one of the original mini wides and he had garvey in his and and worked great. I havnt used the bl2 ink either but im guessing its a pigmented ink and thats why it wouldnt flow properly. But yeah an alcohol or dye based ink should work good ei. pilot, garvey, ****, flowpen ink etc.

graffitiWISCONSIN
04-16-2012, 01:35 PM
i'm not sure if bl2 is a pigmented ink but the guy who owns illadel is a good friend of mine. i'll ask him for you & get back to you. I even asked him if bl2 would work in an ultrawide & he said it works fine. i'm not sure why it won't work for the guy.

PSYS
04-16-2012, 07:40 PM
FYI - I went to Michael's yesterday and they've got Sharpie paint markers on sale for $2.50
I think they're regularly, like, $3.99... also their black books are 50% off.

64496

graffik
04-16-2012, 07:44 PM
A Smurf Would Turn purple

graffitiWISCONSIN
04-17-2012, 01:41 PM
FYI - I went to Michael's yesterday and they've got Sharpie paint markers on sale for $2.50
I think they're regularly, like, $3.99... also their black books are 50% off.

64496

dude sharpie paints suck. they dry out to quick. I have 2 of them & if u want them pm me

PSYS
04-17-2012, 08:25 PM
dude sharpie paints suck. they dry out to quick. I have 2 of them & if u want them pm me

Man, that's crazy. You gotta shake the shit outta them when they're brand new... but once they get flowin', I ain't ever have any issues at all.
I got quite a few of them. Never had any issues with them drying out quickly. I wouldn't do any major fills with them, but for outlines and some detailing - I think they're great.

MiDo93
04-18-2012, 10:49 AM
nah dude, sharpie paint markers are kinda beat. i hate how they are oil based, if they were acrylic it would be alot better

PSYS
04-18-2012, 12:17 PM
nah dude, sharpie paint markers are kinda beat. i hate how they are oil based, if they were acrylic it would be alot better

No argument there... acrylic would be sweet.

Mofuhcka
04-18-2012, 10:41 PM
I just get a little window paint pen mop thing and fill it with ink lol

Z3BRA
04-18-2012, 10:53 PM
sharpie paints are dope if you know how to use em

great for stickers!

Z3BRA
04-18-2012, 10:54 PM
http://www.bombingscience.com/graffitiforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=37180&d=1318803095

AllDayzz
04-19-2012, 07:47 AM
Thanks man for the tip

saveme
04-21-2012, 02:49 AM
ya fore sure !!!
Man, that's crazy. You gotta shake the shit outta them when they're brand new... but once they get flowin', I ain't ever have any issues at all.
I got quite a few of them. Never had any issues with them drying out quickly. I wouldn't do any major fills with them, but for outlines and some detailing - I think they're great.

FAIL 1R
04-21-2012, 10:42 AM
i got some silver and gold markers from michels. the paint in them is sick.

Z3BRA
04-21-2012, 11:58 AM
http://www.bombingscience.com/graffitiforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=37180&d=1318803095

bump

HëRbN
04-25-2012, 04:44 PM
you gotta have a backpack for one marker lol. how you gunna carry that shit around walkin?

dmgraff
04-25-2012, 08:14 PM
i just got the deco id solid stick there awesome, smaller, cleaner, cheaper. but have less paint.

Axil
04-26-2012, 10:26 AM
What Marker Gives Nice Drips But is hard to buff :)

saveme
04-26-2012, 03:43 PM
well u want a mop for drips u can make ur own or buy um one of my favs to buy is a grog squezer im sure other ppl will have there own opnion to each there own

Coleo
04-26-2012, 04:15 PM
soul tip with some witches brew mixed with o i n k ink stains lika biatch

dmgraff
04-27-2012, 12:16 AM
just got 2 really small 10mm mops from an art store, filled it with home made ink and went out. mad drips mabey to much but i think my ink was too thin
my ink recipe is 90% rubbing alcohol 14 sharpies and a cap of brake fluid i dont know how much alcohol but i would say about a cupi think less would make the ink a little thinker and darker

BennyBoii
04-27-2012, 07:39 AM
sharpies are mad too expensive to waste on ink, just use ballpoint pens and a little less rubbing alcohol

Axil
04-28-2012, 10:50 AM
i getting the Grog 10 Black Ink Marker does anyone have any bad reviews on it?
Please reply and is there any better mop i can get for Around the same prices?

dmgraff
04-28-2012, 02:40 PM
@benny i just took a big pack from my art class

MyTagNameIsDune
04-29-2012, 08:45 AM
This makes sense but why exactly do we need to make our own markers, just to customize color and increase dripiness? Yes, I am a toy but atleast I'm trying to learn.

Beko
04-29-2012, 12:31 PM
^^ you're annoying.... js. it's cheaper to make your own.

ttheballstreetburnsall
04-29-2012, 02:08 PM
The grog products other than the valve markers are all good but id suggest getting their mop paint over their ink. the ink fades in the sun really bad. The purple ink stains very hard, disappears after a month or two of sun exposure. Rock the silver grog paint in a mini mop, like the art primo mini mop or similar product (all of the graff websites sell a marker like this). Make sure to shake well. Also if you like prestos, refill a presto with grog paint. shits bomb.

IronyATB
04-29-2012, 02:42 PM
I have both the paints and the ink, I really like the ink, covers well and is very easy to get drips with. I haven't used the paints much (I have chrome and white) but they seem to have little airbubbles when you write which can fuck your tag up a little.

dmgraff
04-30-2012, 12:39 AM
just racked some prisma color i love them except you have to do many layers because they do not cover very well. i also racked some elmers painters and i hate the medium ones but the fine ones are pretty good.

ilakassaa
04-30-2012, 01:45 PM
nothing else needs

SpokaneGraff
04-30-2012, 01:55 PM
I found a kiwi bottle with a smaller nib that never rips as long as you don't write on concrete or bricks. With shoe polish stick to dumpsters and glass.

zachatnca
04-30-2012, 04:37 PM
bingo daubers with INK NOT PAINT is the best and if you need a new nib just go buy another marker for a dollar its not hard

graffitiWISCONSIN
05-07-2012, 02:00 PM
homie grog sucks. u should never buy grog. none of it stains for shit. the ink fades in like 5 days. the paint won't fade but it still gets cleaned super easily. fuck grog

bomberman22
05-07-2012, 10:15 PM
I just got a nice OTR Super Fresh Refill Paint Marker and I need to know if I can put Acrylic paint in it or do I have to make it thinner?

aiko
05-08-2012, 11:21 AM
so i got this fuckin roll on deodorant now how the fuck do i get the ball out, i have made countless messes attempting this

no-sleep
05-10-2012, 08:43 PM
johnsons small baby oil/shampoo bottle, cap wont fit with a nib so i just got a bic whiteout aand took the brush and stem off works greatttt

Coleo
05-10-2012, 08:45 PM
so i got this fuckin roll on deodorant now how the fuck do i get the ball out, i have made countless messes attempting this

heat a x-acto blade and cut throught the ball with it and slice it in half then take it out (may need to re-heat many times...)

Kaktus
05-12-2012, 09:04 AM
Ok, so i recently bought a bottle of grog silver paint, put it in a grog 10cm squeezer, but shit isn't opaque. It's like water mixed with a half Uni-paint in it, what do? Put balls in there?

Coleo
05-12-2012, 10:22 AM
yes put balls in there .... its paint not ink it needs to be mixed up...

Kaktus
05-12-2012, 10:57 AM
yes put balls in there .... its paint not ink it needs to be mixed up...

Ok, steel balls preferably or does that matter?

Coleo
05-12-2012, 01:48 PM
i like using steel balls yes plastic is too light

Kaktus
05-12-2012, 03:34 PM
Would it work with marbles or will i have to castrate one of my cans?

Coleo
05-12-2012, 08:12 PM
itll work with marbles yes

zachatnca
05-14-2012, 07:40 PM
I've used many different kinds of inks and grog seems to be my favorite if we're talking about ink, there paint isn't the best but i don't seem to get issues with it getting cleaned or fading. maybe your doing something wrong.

8========D
05-15-2012, 05:41 PM
dont use a round marker or a chisel marker use a square marker like a cube except

oh and if you live in 4D you can get a tesserect marker

crane23
05-17-2012, 06:13 AM
What are best OTR. markers? I was thinking OTR.069 or OTR.071? And OTR.170 (Mini Hard to Buff) sounds good too?

WMEICMCAAAPA
05-17-2012, 09:19 PM
Im sure this has been asked already but, which mops out there don't leak as much? and what do you guys use carry drippy markers around in? Besides for ziplocks obv.

Thanks!

GpersKreepers
05-18-2012, 02:50 AM
if it has a valve it wont leak otherwise theirs not alot you can do, i have seen a grod squeezer w/no valve having a rubber band to help make a seal for the lid but not very effective,

double shopping bag? unless all amuricans use those brown paper bags, which wouldn't work...

Axil
05-18-2012, 02:55 AM
Where about you from? UK Manchester?

Kaze
05-18-2012, 04:26 AM
Crane- molotow burner and otr hard to buff, k71

WMEIC- it shouldnt leak that much, if it does its garbage...and i usualy just carry some pens/mops around in a sock....that is if i have a lot of them on me and shit.

zachatnca
05-20-2012, 06:25 AM
Im sure this has been asked already but, which mops out there don't leak as much? and what do you guys use carry drippy markers around in? Besides for ziplocks obv.

Thanks!

honestly all mops I've had leak on your. its worse when its ink but its still bad when its paint. any marker with a pump nib type system shouldn't leak at all, most mops will leak from the space in-between the nib and the bottle. theres really nothing you can do to prevent leakage you just have to experiment with lots of different mops. i always use the cheap empty mops that leak like crazy. i carry them around in my bombing backpack that i couldn't give 2 shits about.

Axil
05-20-2012, 06:29 AM
the grog 10mm does not leak iv found as long as you dont keep it upside down or what for along time

Risk_Inicijativa
05-20-2012, 08:45 AM
that homemade ink which all do sucks balls. I mean, why dafuq i must buy pens and alcohol and other shit. I made a paint myself very easy and I'll tell u how:

- Buy some glue with a nib upside (very cheap, few cents at my country)
- The water based glue put in some bottle or bucket or smth like that, but be sure to keep it
- Buy acrylic, temper color
- Find some small bucket for mixture
- In the small bucket put very small quantity of the water based glue, then put the acryl color and at the end throw water(but not so much)
- Then just mix to make perfect paint color
- Put the paint in the MOP
- Wreck the city

for anything that u dont know or if u r confused just ask me here or PM :)

Wizard
05-20-2012, 12:05 PM
Can u post a pic of the glue you're talking about please

Risk_Inicijativa
05-20-2012, 01:25 PM
^ I'll post later but the MOP made :)

saveme
05-21-2012, 12:51 AM
smash ink many dope colors mad drips very opaque , empty art primo or otr mops nice nibs very easy to squeez n pretty cheep,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmnAWjggg34