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riddleboxxmcl
04-18-2006, 05:40 PM
sence ive never done anything more then a throwie i was wodering how long it takes to do 1 of those conplex peices with all the diffrent colars and shit (idk what to call them)....like this 1

(stolen from some picturer thred) http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j239/riddleboxxmcl/zeronew11.jpg

or the saber river peice cuz that looks like it would take days.....

textathief
04-18-2006, 06:26 PM
a day-3 days

sabeSAHBEY
04-18-2006, 06:28 PM
days and usualy like 5 people

KaL1
04-18-2006, 06:31 PM
uhh buddy,
the saber peice didint take "days"it took many monthes to do.6 or 7 i think.

textathief
04-18-2006, 06:33 PM
i didnt mean the saber piece i ment those complex pieces i know the saber one would have taken ages

KaL1
04-18-2006, 06:37 PM
ohh peices
well it depends.first time u do it maybe a day or two.but u get faster from practice.try one at a wash or a wall noone can see wit cheap paint first.or just go 4 it.

R00k1
04-18-2006, 07:00 PM
I would practice it like he said ^^

..Cause I just went for it..and it didnt look too good at all.

But it depends on the person.

underground_culture
04-18-2006, 07:25 PM
chances are one dude didnt do that all by himself

its usalyl one or 2 whole crews doin it,

my guess is like 2 days

Sprae
04-18-2006, 07:27 PM
sabers took a year is what i read

riddleboxxmcl
04-18-2006, 08:38 PM
to take a day it would have to be a really chill spot and ive seen some that are right on busy streets in less u mean u do the some then come back and do more and so on..

dharrison
04-19-2006, 09:16 AM
If you have it all pre-drawn, a crew of like 3 guys and a day or two.

Aven
04-19-2006, 09:29 AM
the saber piece is some sick shit man....i heard it took like a year and is seeable from an airplane

Seti
04-19-2006, 09:59 AM
yeh man thers images of it from space mate

Aven
04-19-2006, 10:07 AM
is it in NY...if so where

Seti
04-19-2006, 10:11 AM
nah it on the banks of the LA river man

Aven
04-19-2006, 10:24 AM
cool

riddleboxxmcl
04-19-2006, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by riddleboxxmcl@Apr 18 2006, 08:38 PM
to take a day it would have to be a really chill spot and ive seen some that are right on busy streets in less u mean u do the some then come back and do more and so on..
any anser??? <_<

E-Terror
04-19-2006, 03:03 PM
theyre called permission walls

riddleboxxmcl
04-19-2006, 03:11 PM
o thats stupid...

E-Terror
04-19-2006, 03:18 PM
usually youll never see something that elaborate on anything but a legal wall.

chill walls arent worth all the time, cause they usually get blasted over within a week or 2

riddleboxxmcl
04-19-2006, 03:28 PM
ya thats kind of a disapointment

textathief
04-19-2006, 06:21 PM
sabers wasnt a legal. it was right next to a prison to

E-Terror
04-19-2006, 06:39 PM
the LA river piece?

that just proves my point that when theyre not legal itsw not worth it cause it&#39;ll get blasted over

dark\gbk
04-20-2006, 06:25 AM
yeh id say 1 crew bout 1-2 days

zerohour
04-20-2006, 07:39 AM
can anyone show me how does that sabers pieace look, that it took to make about 1 year ?

riddleboxxmcl
04-21-2006, 03:29 PM
this thread died <_< whell at least i got my anser

Aven
04-21-2006, 04:01 PM
SABERONE (http://www.saberone.com/graf/photos/pieceriverpiece.JPEG)


look at the guy walking in the middle just to see how big it is

DnK/eeK
04-21-2006, 05:19 PM
thats a big piece :o

RemoZ
04-21-2006, 06:31 PM
Thats when you just quit.


BTW, didnt ja and someone else bomb over it?

_Sic_
04-21-2006, 06:51 PM
ya he did throwies all over it,

x777MAFIAx
04-21-2006, 10:06 PM
Originally posted by riddleboxxmcl@Apr 18 2006, 05:40 PM
sence ive never done anything more then a throwie i was wodering how long it takes to do 1 of those conplex peices with all the diffrent colars and shit (idk what to call them)....like this 1

(stolen from some picturer thred) http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j239/riddleboxxmcl/zeronew11.jpg

or the saber river peice cuz that looks like it would take days.....
a long fucking time.

djsupreeme
04-21-2006, 10:42 PM
how the fuck did no one notice a massive thing getting put together over the course of a year. wtf.

KaL1
04-21-2006, 11:42 PM
people just prob didint care.I live 6 mins away frrom it.i see it alot in person.its gigantic&#33;&#33;&#33; but its all faded now and faggets tagged over it with little tags <_<

kill
04-22-2006, 12:00 AM
that saber probably took an hour or two tops

riddleboxxmcl
04-22-2006, 12:50 AM
no........it took a YEAR

ockid
04-22-2006, 12:55 AM
whats the saber peice?

Iamyourrealfatherbitchnigga
04-22-2006, 04:17 PM
props to JA for capping it haha

kill
04-22-2006, 09:56 PM
ja is a dumass for capping it
and yes i know how many throw ups and shit ja has
asshole goes to la and caps the biggest piece on earth

SeKs
04-23-2006, 04:27 PM
Your all wrong. it took a year and a half at night with about 97 Gallons of latex paint. it measured over 250&#39; by 55&#39;. It also reads his knees were so fucked up afterwards form those long endless nights on that slanted cement.

that&#39;s some fucking Determination.

Just google Saber River piece

Germ
04-23-2006, 04:34 PM
thats crazy

riddleboxxmcl
04-23-2006, 05:38 PM
ive always wanted to know what JA stands for

E-Terror
04-23-2006, 06:05 PM
JA dosent stand for anything

its just, JA



and you kids dont know the story behind the beef between MSk and JA

rona2
04-23-2006, 06:34 PM
JA is actually his fuckin initials ....

hehe saber what??
http://www.5images.com/uploads/d634b34704.jpg (http://www.5images.com)

Thats him

http://imdb.com/name/nm0043168/

riddleboxxmcl
04-23-2006, 07:51 PM
does JA ever do any thing but throwies???

kill
04-24-2006, 01:36 AM
Originally posted by E&#045;Terror@Apr 23 2006, 06:05 PM
JA dosent stand for anything

its just, JA



and you kids dont know the story behind the beef between MSk and JA
hahahahha
msk kills xtc

G-RAF
04-24-2006, 01:47 AM
ja probly got fukd up by the crew that made the saber piece..

step one
04-24-2006, 03:42 PM
sabers fuckin king. i saw one of his pieces on the way to work on a railcar.....i almost crashed off the road drooling at it....but yea, complex pieces can take hours to days....hours legally, days illegally

riddleboxxmcl
04-24-2006, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by riddleboxxmcl@Apr 23 2006, 08:51 PM
does JA ever do any thing but throwies???
well?

Dante Spitaliere
04-24-2006, 05:35 PM
Ja&#39;s got the biggest balls of them all.

SeKs
04-24-2006, 06:55 PM
^^ seriously.... i bet he&#39;s Dead somewhere in a shitcan now. No fuckin Respect. Saber is THE definition of KING in my opinion.

BRAINE
04-24-2006, 07:14 PM
JA does throws and tags.
hes crazy.

and to answer G-RAF, the story, which could be all heresay for all i know goes like this:
saber did that shit over a memorial piece for a dead friend of JAs (sane as i hear)
ja and foe capped him on a trip to the west coast, along with tons of other shit
saber and msk came to the east coast and tracked down ja
they slit his throat, and the only thing that kept his heart beating after losing that much blood was the extremely high level of cocaine in his system.

keep in mind, i do not condone gossiping about those you have not met, and i have not met either of these writers, and for all i know the story isnt true, and saber is gay.

rolling roks
06-17-2007, 09:33 PM
or you could find a shop owner who enjoys art and our culture
but you ve got a snowballs chance in hell for that
but to answer your question riddlebox
a long ass time

vampireboy65
06-17-2007, 10:43 PM
saber did that shit and it took him 6 months(i saw him say it in a interview) and he got surgery on his knees after. and msk came at JA with a boxcutter and fucked up his face HELLA bad but he still alive and saber al the way in fucking europe last i heard

D-ELFY?
06-17-2007, 11:48 PM
Man Fuck That Ja Is The Best Hes Not An "artist" Like Saber Hes A Strait Fuckin Nuclear Bomber

Caso
06-17-2007, 11:55 PM
Just so yall know, Saber said in the movie "Infamy" that it took him about 30 nights to complete, and 97 gallons of paint then some fool dissed it and he had to go back and touch it up. Good movie you should check it out.

Edit- He said 35 nights to complete, but I was sure it wasn't 6 months.

vampireboy65
06-18-2007, 10:41 AM
6 months is alot closer than what some of these of the guys were saying like 1 year bull shit

tense
06-18-2007, 08:52 PM
im pretty sure saber couldnt do some of the stuff JA does and vise versa, they both have completely different ways of writing graffiti, Saber is like Seen and JA is like Cap

alive
06-18-2007, 08:55 PM
it took him a mad long fucking time. thats all that really matters, but still, u make it sound like for 6 months straight he was crawling around there 24/7. if it took him 6 months, he certainly was doing other shit. u know?

saber vs ja is kind of a piecer vs bomber thing. and it varies from person to person. they take diff kinds of skill, diff kinds of personalities. who cares. they all dope.

tense
06-18-2007, 08:58 PM
i wonder if the city will ever buff it? oh, and JA stands for Jonathan Avildsen, just too let u know

vampireboy65
06-18-2007, 08:59 PM
i give saber props cause i mean look at his fucking shit it fucking crazy and he has worked hard to get he shit to where it is now and JA i give props to to i mean shit that kid gets up EVERYWHERE like alive said they both do graffiti but both TOTALLY DIFFRENT ways

tense
06-18-2007, 09:03 PM
i heard JA has thrown up more than 20000 throwups and over 100000 tags!!!!

vampireboy65
06-18-2007, 09:06 PM
i dont dought it

tense
06-18-2007, 09:10 PM
wat makes his shit so much more impressive is he racks his paint in NYC and there all the paint is in cabinets, heard he can rack upwards of 150 cans a day!! JA is the ALL TIME ALL CITY KING OF NYC

vampireboy65
06-18-2007, 09:13 PM
srry idk what u talking about i mean he fucking sick and gets up but humm lets think cope2 fucking world famous shit in movies

ReW
06-18-2007, 09:16 PM
i think it took saber 39 nights or something to do that big piece. in the LA river.

sorry 35

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbWP50ZlEV4

vampireboy65
06-18-2007, 09:16 PM
35

alive
06-18-2007, 09:23 PM
srry idk what u talking about i mean he fucking sick and gets up but humm lets think cope2 fucking world famous shit in movies


ur a complete fucking idiot. cope is wack. haha. cookie cutter shit, hes in a movie, who the fuck cares. besides, ja is in movies 2.haha.




ura tool. lol. no lies/

tense
06-18-2007, 10:34 PM
i dunno, cope2 is a crazy ass writer man, he can pretty much do everything, bomb and piece, plus he has the most recognizable throwup ever

vampireboy65
06-18-2007, 11:01 PM
alive i dont mean fucking graffiti movies i mean like fucking movies like shrek3 and srry how the fuc ku think cope wack i like to u do fucking better and i didnt say ja wasnt good jackass i just said he anit no fucking king of new york

role
06-18-2007, 11:35 PM
shrek gave me props, i'm all city now

vampireboy65
06-18-2007, 11:36 PM
lol hella dude just i mean give cope fucking cred it

tense
06-18-2007, 11:52 PM
Ur sayin JA ISNT a king in New york?! im sorry but if ur sayin that than ur way offf base, JA is the biggest graffiti writer every to hit that city, hes went ALL CITY over 20 times, he is the fukin definition of ALL CITY!

vampireboy65
06-18-2007, 11:57 PM
graffiti is all just bout getting name up u gotta have style anbd change shit up i not saying he bad HE FUCKING SICK and gettes up the most outta every writer just there are other good writers

tense
06-19-2007, 12:00 AM
yee man, i agree wit that, theyre r alotta good writers, whether they bomb or piece or do both, but i think overall cope2 and seen r prob the best, they can do everything

vampireboy65
06-19-2007, 12:02 AM
ya i know that what i trying to say hey u ever heard of NORM

tense
06-19-2007, 12:05 AM
HELL YEAH, hes a fukin crazy writer from SF

vampireboy65
06-19-2007, 12:07 AM
YA DUDE HE FUCKING BOMB TOO i live near SF see his shit DAM that kid rocks SF like nothing he hella good and some of he SHIT IS HUGE like 4 stories huge

tense
06-19-2007, 12:11 AM
yee i remember seeing sum shit on youtube, fukin giant blockbuster, SF has one of the bset scenes in the world, Tie(RIP), Norm, Saber, Revoke all bombed SF at one time or another

vampireboy65
06-19-2007, 12:17 AM
ya i wish i lived a bit closer i have done my own shit there yet but i have seen alot.dream(RIP)

tense
06-19-2007, 12:34 AM
overall, i think west coast graff beats east coast, vancouver has a pretty solid scene, but SF and LA r massive!!

Tagger101
06-19-2007, 01:12 AM
i heard JA has thrown up more than 20000 throwups and over 100000 tags!!!!


yea
i shit my pants when one of his trians showed south of town here
it was amazing
ive also seen CABs shit drivin to cali too





and yes thirty five NIGHTS it took him to do the LA RIVER ROLLER

tense
06-19-2007, 01:21 AM
took 126 gallons of rolling paint! he racked all that shit too, ballsy

alive
06-19-2007, 10:27 AM
being in movies like shrek doesnt mean shit. what the fuck does that say about your letters, about your ups. it means youve got a good publicist, and they wanted some graffiti in the movie. or hes got a friend with good connections. who the fuck cares.

cope2 didnt even make his own goddamn throw.

he never had, and never will have as many ups as JA. and his pieces arent actually all that good. yeah, its better then me and all that shit, but i can still see, the letters arent that great.

http://www.gothamist.com/images/2005_06_timecope2-thumb.JPG



deal with it, if that was in the toy forum, ppl would be talking about that wack as fuck arrows on the P, both of em. and the random ass extension on the top of the E.



but quite frankly, its pretty fucking stupid to argue abt this at all. worry abt ya own wack letters.

shax44
06-22-2007, 04:53 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbWP50ZlEV4&NR=1

the LA river piece =)

tense
06-22-2007, 12:36 PM
every writer with dedication and drive is dope

tesfortis
06-22-2007, 12:58 PM
http://www.citynoise.org/upload/6704.jpg

JA & FOE PWNED SABERS gay LA river piece. ROFL.

tense
06-22-2007, 01:00 PM
y did he do that in the first place? were he and saber beefin then he went over or did he just go over it for the hell of it?

tesfortis
06-22-2007, 01:11 PM
From what I hear he went over the LA river piece 'cause he got all fucked up by MSK.

tense
06-22-2007, 01:37 PM
i know he started bombing LA pretty hard in mid 90's, did they actually beat the shit outta him or did they go over all his shit?

Tagger101
06-22-2007, 02:02 PM
he probly got the shit beat out of him kuz of that

tesfortis
06-22-2007, 03:21 PM
This thread is way off topic. Thirty five days to paint that monster... probably one night to cap the shit out of it(just to kinda stay on topic). Now that's beef.

busek
01-19-2008, 08:17 PM
i know he started bombing LA pretty hard in mid 90's, did they actually beat the shit outta him or did they go over all his shit?This is what i heard from the older homie from tko. is that ja went down there and capped msk. so they fucked him up. he got mad fucked up the l.a. river bomb. saber went back and fixed.end of story.ja is a bitch anyway all he did was bitch tags and throwies across the bomb

Olick
01-19-2008, 08:21 PM
what. idd you expect him to do a piece?

throwups over pieces.

thiers no rule that says you have to.

ja gets up
saber is good

busek
01-19-2008, 08:46 PM
what. idd you expect him to do a piece?

throwups over pieces.

thiers no rule that says you have to.

ja gets up
saber is good


no i didn't im just saying if your gonna ruin a peice like that at least compete with it not make a fool of yourself

..romero..
05-28-2009, 12:36 PM
JA does throws and tags.
hes crazy.

and to answer G-RAF, the story, which could be all heresay for all i know goes like this:
saber did that shit over a memorial piece for a dead friend of JAs (sane as i hear)
ja and foe capped him on a trip to the west coast, along with tons of other shit
saber and msk came to the east coast and tracked down ja
they slit his throat, and the only thing that kept his heart beating after losing that much blood was the extremely high level of cocaine in his system.

keep in mind, i do not condone gossiping about those you have not met, and i have not met either of these writers, and for all i know the story isnt true, and saber is gay.
i know this is maaaad old and im bumping an old ass thread but does anyone have pics of the sane piece he went over??? like is it documented or no?i only found one but it was a red x and sooooooooo.fuck.any help?