Tips For Clean Lines

[EvokeOne]

Hey you guys im working on my can control so i can finally go bust. I would like to know how do i control my can so that i get clean straight lines. I would also like to learn more about cutting lines. Any help would be welcomed. :ph34r:

[-> DUMB ONE <-]

change your name. if you dont know how to paint then you havent been writing very long so you dont have much into your name so you should change it because there is already a very dope REVOK and even an evoke.

[BEAS]

at least be evoke 2.

to do a straight line? use a ruler?cardboard maybe? ar just aim straight?
did you ever try to think??or keep asking questions and make people think for you?

[lowlife]

all i can say that it takes time and perserverance through the toys stage!

[CHILLEN905]

PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE!!!!!!!!!!!!THER ARE NO SHORT CUTS TO BEING A BETTER WRITER

[afterten]

Originally posted by CHILLEN905@Jul 12 2004, 08:05 PM
THERE ARE NO SHORT CUTS
oh, I beg to differ.
http://www.hotlapsracin.com/krysp.jpg

[oblong]

^ LOL
the ones way you get perfectly clean lines are from alot of practice
if you want find some baords and makes some clouds or jagged filles and try ot outline them as good as you can and jsut try more and more and you will eventually get better

[JeCoursLoin]

QUOTE (CHILLEN905 @ Jul 12 2004, 08:05 PM)
THERE ARE NO SHORT CUTS


oh, I beg to differ.

:rolleyes: silly bastard ain't you?

I get clean lines with stencils and tape... my can hand sucks ass. practice is the best advice. Go find some piece of shit piece anything on the side of the road someone's throwin out and practice before you go out and make a dumbass of yourself.

[Tony]

Originally posted by JeCoursLoin@Jul 12 2004, 06:44 PM
I get clean lines with stencils and tape...
:rolleyes:

[jurass finish first]

shortcuts are gay.

hold the can the same distance away and always at the same angle, and move the can at the same speed.

and if you wanna cut lines, you just make that fat line on top of the other color, and then paint over half of that and it'll make that line twice as thin. . .if that makes any sense

[throw't'up]

practice... start by making line on wood or anything youll get better

[oblong]

Originally posted by Tony+Jul 12 2004, 08:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Tony @ Jul 12 2004, 08:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-JeCoursLoin@Jul 12 2004, 06:44 PM
I get clean lines with stencils and tape...
:rolleyes: [/b][/quote]
ha ha ha
i thought the same thing

[sketch]

well, i just try to not masterbate for a while, then i put my hand in cold ice BEFORE i get out to write.that helps the shivering a bunch...
oh wait, you said straight lines....my bad.
:unsure:

[Mensa]

dont use stock caps! theyre bound to mess with your possibly-straight and clean line... and yeah, practice u lazy guy

[JeCoursLoin]

stock caps work fine for me, but ny thins and german pinks are what i like most.

[neurosis]

i use stock caps for outlines. my lines are straight because i have a steady hand dumbass.

[Ravek]

clean lines are easy, very fast and percise movments of the hand and wrist

[Incite]

straight lines are easy for me, always had a steady hand. the only thing i have a problem with is choosin which colors to use.

is this question concernin' bombs or murals?

*raises hand if its for bombs*

[amk13]

Try to push your lines so you don't get spray off. Stay steady and even and don't jerk the can.
Peace.
amk13ftv
For love not fame!

[All_City]

the only thing you can do is practice really, i like using german thins (grey) i get pretty clean lines with those, and who ever said you couldn't get clean lines with stock caps?!? you just need to learn to move the can fast enough. You only really need razor sharp lines for peices (my thought) cause if u get a spot on the highway or something i only care if they can see/read my shit, it looks clean from a distance anyway with a stock.....my 2 cents

[Mensa]

yeah yeah true, the stocks i use usually dont spray initially, and cut out halfway through lines a lot.. iwas wrong to say they cant be clean, but its easier to get a clean line with like Ny's or germans, i guess

[drop]

just use a simple straight cardboard pecie if you want perfect lines

[->toNE*]

but it together stright lines come from eye to hand cordenation an ov course PRACTICE makes prefect!!! i like the pink and gold dots but everything works!

[JeCoursLoin]

Gold dots always sputter and clog on me. -shudder-

[All_City]

just my opinion but i think using cardboard to get straight lines is pretty toy, are you going to carry carboard with you when you go to get a spot? i don't think so, just practice, you'll get it sometime

[atxbomber666]

Just practice alot like on carboard or somthing.And ive heard that like if you go tagging first before you bomb at all and you get used to tagging and the flow style of it then your can control will be better.I dont know if thats true but my freind said his improved.

[EvokeOne]

well fist of all i would like to tank whoever gave tips. My names EVOKE idiot not Revok. I've been practiceing on a plywood and i just wanted tips before i go out, so that i dont look like a total toy. Thanks and yeah practice does make you a better writer. And fuck all haters. I guess that in Los Angeles theres room for Evoke and Revoke. :ph34r:

[MAST]

Originally posted by EvokeOne@Jul 14 2004, 11:28 PM
well fist of all i would like to tank whoever gave tips. My names EVOKE idiot not Revok. I've been practiceing on a plywood and i just wanted tips before i go out, so that i dont look like a total toy. Thanks and yeah practice does make you a better writer. And fuck all haters. I guess that in Los Angeles theres room for Evoke and Revoke. :ph34r:
look up then look down...u truly are a bad speller...choose one spelling (the right spelling) and stick with it

and it doesnt matter if ur name duznt have an "R" in it,people would still think ur a biter...it duznt necessarily have to be the EXACT same word

[Msfyt]

lol...for straight lines dont smoke pot!!

[kaotik_is_back]

smoke some weed before you go bombing, works every time.. unless you get paranoid easily, then you will have lines lookin like a heart monitor..

[-> DUMB ONE <-]

KAOTIK YOU FUCKER PUT YOUR OLD SIG BACK

[draino]

straight lines are the easiest things...
push the tip

[slEze]

just take your time dude cause if your sketched out you piece or bomb will be sketched out too

[EvokeOne]

Well i've been practicing on a plywood. Tell me what you think of my lines,and style. Any feed back and tips will be useful. thanks. :ph34r: http://img2.imgspot.com/u/04/206/23/PICT0014.JPG

[kildaillest]

your lines are still a LITTLE bit sketchy but i like the stylo lol...i think the O needs sumn inside it..it looks to plain...


good shit tho

[kildaillest]

oh....and what the fuck is that shiny shit?

[EvokeOne]

:ph34r: oh those shiny spots are sun light. sorry bout that. and i was planning to put something inside the O or make it into a character but i just didn't and left it as it was. I was going to post a better picture but it was too big. so sorry.

[Lotus]

I like your style, it reminds me of mine. I'd post, but I don't have any pictures of my pieces. and I'm at the library.

IMHO tips are heavily overrated. I used to think that I needed thins for my outlines. Then as I learned can control more and more, I found out that you don't need them, and even on shit $1 wal-mart black you can do clean thin outlines by simply moving the can close to the surface and quickly. With practice, you can do anything kids.

[Kayone707]

dang i was suprised by your shit.....its actually good, better than most of the writers on here that claim to be doing this for 5 years....keep it up!!!

[Kayone707]

Originally posted by kildaillest@Jul 26 2004, 05:34 PM
oh....and what the fuck is that shiny shit?
Maybe if you got out you would know that it is called the sun.....it gives us "light" :lol: jus messin wit chu

[daIs]

make a line thick then take another color and start cutting it on each side or one side and that can make some nice clean lines

[fame]

kay died from shiting on him self......lol.........lol freakacident........u damn right ....................i got to poop poo

[EvokeOne]

Well thanks for the tips.

[AnicsOneLBK]

http://img33.exs.cx/img33/8522/anicsone.jpg

i think i have sort of the same problem as evoke.. i have good bombs and good handstyles but when it comes to doing peices nothing is really clean and it is pretty sketchy.. i have alright stlyes i just cant really paint my peices clean .. did any other writers have this problem when they started off? o yeah and by the way that is the second peice i have ever done.

[graffistheshit]

Originally posted by JeCoursLoin@Jul 12 2004, 08:44 PM

I get clean lines with stencils and tape...
are u fucking kidding me?? the worst 2 things u can do in the graff game is use stecils or tape and or bite.

[Slob]

Those cheezy can guns that you can get from paint stores for like 3 bucks are good for people who have shitty control. It is also far easier for toys who don't wanna work on skillz, to paint clean lines.

[Slob]

Originally posted by graffistheshit+Aug 30 2004, 06:57 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (graffistheshit @ Aug 30 2004, 06:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-JeCoursLoin@Jul 12 2004, 08:44 PM

I get clean lines with stencils and tape...
are u fucking kidding me?? the worst 2 things u can do in the graff game is use stecils or tape and or bite. [/b][/quote]
yea to paint a piece and use a stencil, i don't even want to think about how long that shit would take to design stencils. maybe if your a toy using cardboard for staright edges that would make more sense, but tape and stencils, shit son

[Kayone707]

Originally posted by Slob@Sep 1 2004, 03:34 PM
Those cheezy can guns that you can get from paint stores for like 3 bucks are good for people who have shitty control. It is also far easier for toys who don't wanna work on skillz, to paint clean lines.
ur fuckin retarted huh?

use the gun for big fills loser..... ive read some of ur posts u think ur fucking Graff master 3000........ <_<

[Slob]

I am graff master you fool, recognize biyach!

[Kayone707]

Originally posted by Slob@Sep 1 2004, 05:17 PM
I am graff master you fool, recognize biyach!
haha thas great!

SLoOoOoB *dun-dun-dun* *in robot voice* *GRAFF MASTER 3000!!
good times

[Slob]

That just deserved some sig action bro.

Peace

[mr. she77]

i dont understqand how that was funny. i havenread thourgh this yet but to get good clean lines learn CAN CONTROL>

[looter]

yo can control is just down to practice n slob av u ever herd of the artist slobs from england wel its not like it matters neways unless yor from england but hes a propa ledgend he did the harry potter train chromed it whole car it wo on like news and on the front page of the paper dam that guy got major publicity :lol:

[kosmo1ne]

go painting in the winter....the cold metal will make it drip easier...but the can would have lower pressure from being cold so it would even out....with it being cold you have to work on moving you hand faster...dont know if it will help just made it up write now...just practice i guess

[AnicsOneLBK]

can some one gimme some feed back plz?

[kildaillest]

i use the bannana skinny's or the new montana skinny's...just work with the distance and speed...

[EvokeOne]

http://img77.exs.cx/img77/3824/1224.jpg
Ok this is my second try. I am working on my lines. So tell me what you guys think. This is my second time working with cans. So dont judge me too harsh. :ph34r:

[EvokeOne]

http://img74.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img74&image=1583.jpg][IMG]http://img74.exs.cx/img74/7905/1583.th.jpg

["awesome"ONE]

Answering to the main question of this thread can control is something you can only gain with practice. The more you paint the more farmiliar you'll get with it.

[bigbomba']

How straight do u need?? if very straight use tape or card board.... Just use practice to get better control....


cant skip a head of your skill



ACID

[cuttingxedge]

change your name theres already an evoke from ottawa whos been writing for i dont wanna know howlong and hes amazing

as for can control the only way your going to get it is to take some cans and PAINT!! just try to use not so cheap paint and do fast hand movements and have your can not to close tothe wall.

[**MATEO**]

do wat i do i practice on cardboard before doin the peice

["awesome"ONE]

One thing you can do that will really help you out with lines is practice doing certaint ones over and over again on something like large paper or cardboard. Soon you'll get better and better at controlling the lines so that their not as rough and stuff. Also just practice doing what you want. The more practice the better.

[.limit.]

like this
__________________________paint straight dumbshit
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[^FinDING NeNo^]

[SIZE=7]Get a pink rollerblade wrist guard, that will help you out.....LoL LoL :lol:

[bigbomba']

Originally posted by .limit.@Jan 3 2005, 02:19 PM
like this
__________________________paint straight dumbshit
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can

JUst follow this word for word
See its not so hard is it plus ive never needed a perfectly straight line nay time i tag shit



ACID

[BRAINE]

going fast helps, but dont fuck it up

[toxus]

READ THIS (http://www.12ozprophet.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=64067&st=0)

[diarrhea]

and if you wanna cut lines, you just make that fat line on top of the other color, and then paint over half of that and it'll make that line twice as thin. . .if that makes any sense -jurass finish first
haha yeee explaining how to cut lines over the inter net is hard.

My names EVOKE idiot not Revok. -evokeone
hahaha yeah how the fuck is writing evoke biting revok, diferent words, diferent meaning, similar letters---> HOWEVER theres already a Really dope writer that goes by evoke. so i suggest you change ur tag if you ever want to be taken seriously.

Well i've been practicing on a plywood. Tell me what you think of my lines,and style. Any feed back and tips will be useful. thanks.-evokeone
looks like you already know the basics of painting, like the the pointy parts of the outline inside your letters, it took me quite some time to figure out how thats done.haha. but yeah i think your good enough to know where you messed up and what can be cleaned up more. but i gotta say its looking nice.

http://img33.exs.cx/img33/8522/anicsone.jpg

i think i have sort of the same problem as evoke.. i have good bombs and good handstyles but when it comes to doing peices nothing is really clean and it is pretty sketchy
learn how to cut lines and clean up your piece, for example the hole at the top of your S how the black line goes through to far, go over the part sticking out with some of that baby blue and itll look nicer. (hard to explain) and im to tired of typing.

practise is the #1 way to get straight lines
and all the people saying "jst spray the can on to the wall in a straight line"
its not that simple, one day when you actually paint youll find that out for yourselves.

[diarrhea]

Originally posted by toxus@Nov 2 2005, 02:36 PM
READ THIS (http://www.12ozprophet.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=64067&st=0)
OH SHIT i just noticed this post, very very valuble information!!!!

[morning_wood]

i like how most of the tips are false.

you cant get clean lines with a stock. YOU CANNOTTTTT. and i dont care about how good you are. they have a fuzzy spray pattern, so you wont get a crisp edge.

and people saying hold the can same angle blabla... fuck that.

start moving your hand before u press the cap (eliminated drips from the stall at the start of the line) and keep on moving in the proper direction after u let go, this helps eliminate drips.

try to 'see' the line on the wall before painting it, move your hand in the movement a few times before spraying (helps when you are still toy)


to get extra fine lines, hold the can with the cap almost touching the wall, dont spray straight on, spray at an angle, it will make one side of the line very crisp and the other abit more fuzzy, but its great for making tiny lines...

also... DO NOT PUSH THE CAP ALL THE WAY DOWN.... delicacy... push the cap a minimal amount to let less pressure through... this takes strong fingers so practice alot to tone your muscles

[scOpeOne]

thats right kids.. finger push ups

[-=AgA=-TrAnCe]

lmfao.

[settybomb]

Now im sure that youve been told to PRACTICE about 90 times already, But just to give you some actual advice that you can take part in right now, Stock caps are a bit harder to master then a ny thin cap. BUT IF YOU HAVE THE CHOICE, I liked german outlines, youn can just do millions of outlines until you figure out the movements you need to make to get those nice clean fresh lines. good luck.

[MaZa#1]

Originally posted by morning_wood@Nov 4 2005, 03:23 AM

start moving your hand before u press the cap (eliminated drips from the stall at the start of the line) and keep on moving in the proper direction after u let go, this helps eliminate drips.

try to 'see' the line on the wall before painting it, move your hand in the movement a few times before spraying (helps when you are still toy)



good tips...i use them some times

[VAbomber]

yeh krylon short-cuts

[onfire]

don't use stock tips.. practice..alot.. and uses cardboard or a straight piece of wood for straight lines

[Kayone707]

Originally posted by onfire@Nov 15 2005, 03:43 PM
don't use stock tips.. practice..alot.. and uses cardboard or a straight piece of wood for straight lines
the only thing that u said that was right was "PRACTICE ALOT".

theres nothing wrong with stock caps... thats all they had back in the day an they Still made clean cut lines...

dont use cardboard or plywood.. jus go practice. is all the advice anyone is ever gonna need

[saki]

paint at least once a week and you'll pick it up easy

[clone20]

use some german outline 2 they are great for can control... :ph34r:

http://img15.imgspot.com/u/06/229/13/germanoutline21155922863.jpg[SIZE=7]

[Paint Magic]

stop pressing the cap a 10th of a second before u finish ur line cuz paint still comes out

[Rymk]

whats the best cap for flarring on handstyles?

[[]RENT[]]

Originally posted by clone20@Aug 18 2006, 12:46 PM
use some german outline 2 they are great for can control... :ph34r:

http://img15.imgspot.com/u/06/229/13/germanoutline21155922863.jpg[SIZE=7]
the cap has nothing to do with your can control, the can control is how steadily you can move the can. And stop bumbing old threads!

[slEEt]

Try breathing out and holding your breath when you want it to be perfectly straight. That's what I was taught when trying to shoot a gun accurately, worth a shot.

[dontcare]

So I've been getting a bunch of requests in my PM box lately on technique tips and shit. Rather than answering individually, I figured I'd just start a little thread with pictoral illustration for all you newjacks out there. Besides, it's raining and I'm bored as fuck stuck inside the house.

Everything here was done with regular Krylon, Rusto, mixes and off brand paint with one NY thin cap. No fancy paint or expensive caps are required. This was painted at a bombed out legal wall, also.

The first step here is to toss up a sketch on the wall and fill it in. I just did a simple E made out of blocky blobs, and filled it all in. I used Krylon's "Colorworks" brand Sky Blue with a regular NY thin taken off a Krylon Workable Fixatif can.
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Step two is to outline it. I used Krylon Flat White with the same NY thin. In order to paint it razor sharp, I overshot the corners. You'll see why I did that later on.
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Here's a close up of the corners, so you can see what's going on better.
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In this step I wanted to pop it off the background a little, so I threw some Rusto Smoke Grey around it. I did the bubbles before putting a border on it to save myself some clean-ups later, and give the Rusto a chance to dry a little in the meantime. You can see that I got as close as possible to the outline while leaving a little space for the border.
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Now I put the border on, after the bubble paint has dried enough not to drip. I used a mixed can of Krylon for this, a purplish grey color that matched the smoke grey pretty well. I would have used black, but I didn't have enough. This was also done with the same NY thin.
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Here's a closeup of the border. You can see that I overshot some of the lines here, so i could clean them back up with the outline. For the outside lines, I tried to be as exact as possible, because a lot of the time you can't clean up the corners with the background paint. If you can, by all means rock away.
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Here's the same section as above, going back in with the white outline and tightening it back up. I still haven't done any clean-ups in the fill yet. I always save that for last in case i get any drips or mistakes on the outline work or background.
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Here's another closeup of where I overshot the outline doing clean-ups, to get into some small corners. It can be done a bit easier, but not as super crisp, but I wanted to show how to do something as perfect as possible.
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The same section as above after cutting back in with the border paint. The border looks as good as it's going to get at this point.
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Here I finally go back in with the fill paint and clean up the interior. You can see on the bottom right where i overshot the fill into the outline, just to get that edge extra crispy. At this point, you should know what to do with that.
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Here's the fix-up of that bottom part. I overshot again, this time it was a mistake, so I have to go back and fix it.
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After fixing it back up with the fill.
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The letter is basically done at this point, but I think it looks a little boring. I decide to throw in a little Krylon Pacific Blue as a lowlight. It wound up being a little too close to the fill color, but I was working with scrap cans. Give me a break.
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Here's a close-up so you can see detail. Notice I also overshot the lowlights, so i can clean them up with the fill, as well. I also tried to set the lowlights off the outline a little, to give the letter a rounded, bubbly appearance.
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Here's the lowlights after cleanups.
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The final product. A monkey could do this.
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Any questions or suggestions for future installments are welcome. Enjoy.
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[Fosale!]

umm practice?

[Loz emlintio]

Yo, does anyone know anywhere in the UK (preferably around Birmingham) where I can get some tips for my sprays. I cn't find any around where I live cus it's so small. And the usual tips i want are normally sold on the internet and i jst cba. anyone got any tipoffs?

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[joke]

i sketch ma pic in ma blkbook then wen im doin it 2 get straight lines i jus look at the pic n imagine it on the wall so that im kinda jus trasin it on the wall kinda complicated i know but it works for me

[graffer that tags]

Originally posted by joke@Sep 7 2006, 12:45 PM
i sketch ma pic in ma blkbook then wen im doin it 2 get straight lines i jus look at the pic n imagine it on the wall so that im kinda jus trasin it on the wall kinda complicated i know but it works for me
:lol: :lol: :lol:
how does that help you get straight lines, the question wasnt how do i get my piece in my black book onto the wall, and making it look the same. It was, how do i get straight lines.

[scape-one]

NY fats and pink and orange dots are all good for flares

[Vivalarevolution]

Originally posted by scOpeOne@Nov 4 2005, 04:51 PM
thats right kids.. finger push ups
They all LAUGHED when I said playing video games would pay off!LITTLE DID THEY KNOW I WAS BUILDING MY FINGER MUSCLES! THEY WILL ALL CRY AT MY FEET! CRY, I SAY
*twitch twitch*
Edit: First on lucky page seven, woo!

[trance]

according to the dicovery channel, the muscles u have in ur fingers arnt used. they say it it comes from ur forearm


i say there communists.

[MR.AMS]

all u can do its practice...get a peice of plywood or sumthin in ur backyard or find an abandoned buildin or wall and just practice

[clone20]

Keep practicin' and use a good cap like NY or german's. :ph34r:

[FuLa]

CHANGE YOUR NAME MUTHAFUCKA......that's my boy's name..Evoke fym, nsh from Chicag[o....and there's another one in Canada

[MicoDOK]

look, anyonnw who tells you to use tape, cardboard, or wood to get a straight line isn't just a toy, they're a cheatin ass toy. Work on it for a while. you might not feel like you're making an incredible amount of progress. this can take a wicked long time. Also cut your lines.

[bruce]

Originally posted by MicoDOK@Sep 12 2006, 10:09 AM
look, anyonnw who tells you to use tape, cardboard, or wood to get a straight line isn't just a toy, they're a cheatin ass toy. Work on it for a while. you might not feel like you're making an incredible amount of progress. this can take a wicked long time. Also cut your lines.
thats bullshit.
using tape or carboard for thin and clean lines isnt cheating.
its using the tools you have to excel.

and its no substitute for can control either. id like to see you hating bitches try curved clean ultra skinny lines.

aint no such thing as cheating.
graffiti isnt a test.

[MicoDOK]

Bruce i see where you're coming from with the whole using everything you have to your advantage, But you do not need to use bullshit ass foreign materials. I don't know where you're from, or what kind of scene you got, but here if you pull some tape, or cardboard lines you'll get covered and hated. And i can do skinnier, better looking lines than your tape with two cans of paint. It's called cutting your lines. If you want to make your outline/forcefield extra clean try making it the same color as your background. Let's see your taped cardboard shit man.

[bruce]

if cuts aint cheatin then neither is tape.
its the same concept.
cept one uses less paint.

[MicoDOK]

that's complete bullshit dude, that's putting down a piece of tape, and spraying all over it. Cutting is about your can control. Now if that doesn't make sense to you it'd prooobably be a good idea to A. Go back to school, or B. Cut your wrists since you can't do it with your spray can.

[bruce]

hahaah yeah.
thats it.
best retort ever.

[live-EVIL]

micodoc is right, cutting lines looks better cuz most graff artists i know, hate pple who use tape nd shit. you can so tell when someone uses tape, it gives it like the most perfect hard edge ever, which in my opinion looks pretty gay cuz i like the soft edge. but yea, using tape is sorta cheating cuz your finding an easier way to get your piece looking better without your own skills. the only cardborad you shoud use is a stencil.

[MicoDOK]

Werd live evil. Stencils are a completely different ball game haha

[Stear(Stare)]

i like stencils especcially when they come out real nice...which isnt very often for me...

[MicoDOK]

Stare if you want some dank stencil tips look in the toy stencil thread, or search for stencils. your shit will come out ill for real

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[obseen]

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[sky 5]

any tips on gettin clean thin lines for outlines inside the letters? my lines are clean for outside outline and long inside outline but i cant get the small (4-6 inch lines) inside outline lines coming out nice? any tips besides cutting into/thining it with the fill color? . . . . . biz markie makes me laugh . . .

[minor crimes]

cutbacks and just using lowpressure cans with a gold dot or something to the job for me. or a german outline 1 on a sabotaz can works great :)
just gotta have practise n shit thats all.

[fannypack uprock]

do you really have some bullshit little capgun in your sig? kill yourself please.

[Slaze]

ya, most the advice has been given. practice is just about the only way to do it without tape. i will say that the cap can effect your lines as well as the can, if u have a high pressure can your gunna have to move fast, it will be more likely to drip, try a Montana
Alien can they are low pressure so you can move nice and slow with it and learn to keep a steady hand. if u want crisp lines watch your caps, usualy the wider teh spray the more random particles will fly around the line itself.


... or you could try what my friend did and by a can of silly string and try to get it to stick to a wall in a straight line with as little build up as posible... those things are crazy high pressure

[live-EVIL]

Originally posted by fannypack uprock@Sep 15 2006, 12:01 AM
do you really have some bullshit little capgun in your sig? kill yourself please.
its not a cap gun, its an airsoft pistol duh! lol. but yeah, why the fuck is it in there?

[MicoDOK]

Cut your lines. It takes time to learn. It all does. Can we be dont please? Use your practice board and try it out. Us telling you everything will get you nothing, just try it out man

[BRAINE]

i dont like you.

you can use gold dots on high pressure ass cans and the paint will come out fairly slow and not drip

even with 750ml cans. i tried it today, just wondering about it.

anyways, gold dots are good for practice, plus if you waiver or shake while you are outlining with a gold dot, it will show, so it will help you learn to not do that and to keep one consistent length.

[MicoDOK]

werd, bananas are good aswell. It's all about the practice like i said.

[zeepaintor]

when u bomb,dont just rapid fire fill it do the outlines , fill and shadow in high detail arching your hand , find diffrent angles that work best.
i have been very fortunite to have met some vet writers if you know any ask them about can control they will tell u all the things u need to know about things like this depending of cource on the person most will happily school you on how to hold the can for a particular effect.

experimentation through failure and achievment...
haha , when you gotta paint i seen nice piece done with just pink dots so it aint about how many grey dots ya got left in ya baggies.


confidence in your skills and equipment.
also ghosting the line in which u intend to paint comes in handy.

go to some graff expos?
watch others paint and ask questions when they are having a break.

buy some very big pannels and set them up in your back yard thin sheets of fibre board work best...to ensure longevity i painted mine first with house paint so they didnt warp.
5 years have passed and only thing fucked is the corners.
i hope my advice was in someway helpful.
when i was 16 no one would show me jack shit so if someone shows u some good skills give props and they will show u more.

[phen]

alll u really need to do to get straight lines is practice go buy 2 cans of dollar paint or krylon goto a chill day spot or get a peice of wood and practice straight lines all day

[jonowev]

that doesnt really help. you might spend a whole day doing the wrong thing...
only kiddin - practice makes perfecto :)

[ONLY]

Originally posted by oblong@Jul 12 2004, 08:41 PM
^ LOL
the ones way you get perfectly clean lines are from alot of practice
if you want find some baords and makes some clouds or jagged filles and try ot outline them as good as you can and jsut try more and more and you will eventually get better
hahaha how ironic :unsure: if tahts the right word

[ONLY]

everytime i outline over my wet fill i get drips:P any tips

[nerdx]

fill must be too thick and not dry enough for the outline.
let the fill dry then outline.


the grey with black dots, not sure the proper name, seem to work
pretty good on the other rusto brands, painters touch

[ONLY]

everytime i outline over my wet fill i get drips:P any tips

[ONLY]

Originally posted by nerdx@Oct 16 2006, 11:16 PM
fill must be too thick and not dry enough for the outline.
let the fill dry then outline.


the grey with black dots, not sure the proper name, seem to work
pretty good on the other rusto brands, painters touch
thanks alot:)

what do i go when i have no tme to wait for the fill ;)
go and comeback?

[nerdx]

either your using one gloss paint and one flat, that would make them drip becaue
they are two diffrent paints they dont tend to mix very well.

or you are laying down way too much for a outline and making it drip no matter
how fast you move.

or you have way too much in your fill and its taking forever to dry.



post a picture of the poblem

[Special_K]

for ur fill just do the thinnest layer possible w/ a orange dot and do a fast outline w/ a german outline. if ur using rusto drips really shouldn't be a problem unless ur really close or moving really really slow. when i say "fast" i mean move the can quickly when making a stroke, but dont rush the outline or it will come out sloppy. Also if possible watch some graff movies like (Graffiti instincts) to see what we're talking about. It helped me a lot when i was having a hard time.

[Chainsaw Gutsfuck.]

LOL. WHY MAKE THIS POST. LIKE.. AT ALL JUST DO STRAIGHT LINES. WALK ALONG WITH IT. ;)

[Chainsaw Gutsfuck.]

TAKE A HAIRDRYER,






im going against you all. its not intentional. :ph34r:

[textathief]

an orange dot is practically a german fat,

o and i got the kitchen window and put a thin piece of wood up on it....i practiced days on end till i knew how to do straight lines, carful of overspray though...but thats wat ur learning on not wat to do....

[minor crimes]

use masking tape if you want really neat lines. lol. every burner does it. even cantwo