Real Weekly Sketch Battle Poll

[koper]

SORRY ABOUT THE MULTIPLE POLLS EARLIER, I CAUGHT ONTO THAT ASAP AND THIS IS A FRESH ONE

combined all the entries into one poll this week

hip-hop bomber - http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g30/*****fromthegetto/sabersketch.jpg

vidorone - http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m66/vidorone/oe001.jpg

fokus - http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/6006/p1010042tv8.jpg

tech - http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2100/saberentryyq3.jpg

sh1fted - http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/3528/dscn0290dh0.jpg

craz-e one - http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/7550/pv065dq3.jpg

abec187 - http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/7281/saber031dk7.jpg

Blitz - http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/cirrus/img010-1.jpg

sik WIT it - http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/9311/p1010005fs9.jpg

nickstix - http://www.freewebs.com/defense/saber.png

kasp - http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f62/kaspsak/Graffiti/Sketches/bombingsciencebattle_sabersketch.jpg

trem - http://home.no.net/ramsesk/saber.jpg

stinkyfishninja - http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c81/egoe153/NEW099.jpg

akim - http://not4fame.freeblog.hu/files/saber.JPG

thekid - http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y220/seta0ne814/SABERSKETCH.jpg

aSHiD - http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v651/kevin6nipple/saber.jpg

ryan - http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/1410/saberns8.jpg

ase - http://fileanchor.com/83167-rnocount.jpg

[JETc17]

ase or null.
i couldnt decide.

[ase]

:( ?

No inkbits?

[M3T-nine-T-4]

Nulled also cuddnt really choose but there r some good 1's on here i cuddnt jus pick 1?????? sry

[MFGrimm]

gross hip-hop bomber....im sorry man but thats gross....

['aSHiD"]

so as i usually do, im gonna make fun of shifted.

i dont really think cutting out a paper pattern and pasting it for a fill is really a good idea.
sorry.

voted ase.

[diwat26]

I'm a bit disappointed ... I tought we will get some more quality sketches. I simply can not find any nice letters on any of the pieces!
Except hmmm... akim's is interesting, wery weird lettering in a good sense. He got me vote, and not because of he is my homie.
ASE is nice, too. But the rest...

[akim]

Just to be honest, this one was made by my best homie tokyo (you can see his tag), 'cause i told him about this battle, and he wanted to check his skillz. He doesn't have a net and can't speak english that's why i signed him to this poll. Thanks for putting him in. And for sure only the kid and he made a stuff wich worth any word.

diwat: thx én is "magamra" szavaztam közben:P

[StinkyFishNinja]

Originally posted by DEKOR@Dec 6 2006, 12:25 AM
stinkyfishninja, your attempt at bitting GES (3A) is shit..
pfff
i don't think iv'e checked out ges's pieces in a few years,if he's doing some shit similar to that then i was in the dark,i'll agree that the sketch i did wasn't too polished,they were just some quick lines to kill time,don't stress it though lil homie cause i'd smash your shit any fuckin day,and i don't mean in some silly paper battle neither...

[DEKOR]

Originally posted by StinkyFishNinja+Dec 6 2006, 03:26 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (StinkyFishNinja @ Dec 6 2006, 03:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-DEKOR@Dec 6 2006, 12:25 AM
stinkyfishninja, your attempt at bitting GES (3A) is shit..
pfff
i don&#39;t think iv&#39;e checked out ges&#39;s pieces in a few years,if he&#39;s doing some shit similar to that then i was in the dark,i&#39;ll agree that the sketch i did wasn&#39;t too polished,they were just some quick lines to kill time,don&#39;t stress it though lil homie cause i&#39;d smash your shit any fuckin day,and i don&#39;t mean in some silly paper battle neither... [/b][/quote]
man dont post shit like dis tryna be tough or something..
its realy realy obvious u bit him, straight wen i saw dat sketch i saw it..
so dont try and deny it by writing all dat bullshit on me.

[ROZE7]

i think the kid is unstopable in these threads

[ShIfTeD]

Originally posted by &#39;aSHiD"@Dec 6 2006, 01:26 AM
so as i usually do, im gonna make fun of shifted.

i dont really think cutting out a paper pattern and pasting it for a fill is really a good idea.
sorry.

voted ase.
dude you have no room to talk, none at all

[BRAINE]

im voting for The Kid.
except for him and the ase entry, they were all straight garbage.

and thats not just a geser bite, it looks like an ensoe bite with long letters too
(and not just cause of the 3d fade.)
but its not a very good one. stupid kids.

[/*BlItZ*\]

i voted for focus. liked his colors and i think its pretty clean

[theKid.]

akim fersure.

[Bruce_1nR]

Ase....but THEKID was 2nd

[Juststreet]

tech nice and simple

[Slim Pickens]

no of em got my vote, all lackin in some way . . . normally stinkyfishninja brings some heat but this time i just wasnt feelin it . . are there gonna a gift certificate for next weeks battle?

['aSHiD"]

Originally posted by ShIfTeD+Dec 6 2006, 07:49 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ShIfTeD @ Dec 6 2006, 07:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-&#39;aSHiD"@Dec 6 2006, 01:26 AM
so as i usually do, im gonna make fun of shifted.

i dont really think cutting out a paper pattern and pasting it for a fill is really a good idea.
sorry.

voted ase.
dude you have no room to talk, none at all [/b][/quote]
haha.... i love doing this to you shifted.

i have plenty of room to talk because i took the time to color my piece, and form better letters, and put in a decent 3d.

[Toyminater]

I voted tech. cool style. akim&#39;s was good too.
There wasn&#39;t much good in these polls.

[aces]

ase for teh hottnessssss&#33;

[ShIfTeD]

Originally posted by &#39;aSHiD"+Dec 6 2006, 12:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (&#39;aSHiD" @ Dec 6 2006, 12:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by ShIfTeD@Dec 6 2006, 07:49 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-&#39;aSHiD"@Dec 6 2006, 01:26 AM
so as i usually do, im gonna make fun of shifted.

i dont really think cutting out a paper pattern and pasting it for a fill is really a good idea.
sorry.

voted ase.
dude you have no room to talk, none at all
haha.... i love doing this to you shifted.

i have plenty of room to talk because i took the time to color my piece, and form better letters, and put in a decent 3d. [/b][/quote]
thats the funniest damn thing ive ever heard in my life&#33;

you have room to talk...ha&#33;


yeah you colored yours in....whipdeefuckindoo

still doesnt mean yours has braging rights over someone who nearly ties you every week

so no dude, you dont have room to talk




unless your shits perfect, and its not, then keep your shut your fuckin mouth






if you love doing this so damn bad, put it to the end and battle me, id love to see that

['aSHiD"]

Originally posted by ShIfTeD+Dec 6 2006, 03:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ShIfTeD @ Dec 6 2006, 03:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (&#39;aSHiD" &#064; Dec 6 2006, 12:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by ShIfTeD@Dec 6 2006, 07:49 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-&#39;aSHiD"@Dec 6 2006, 01:26 AM
so as i usually do, im gonna make fun of shifted.

i dont really think cutting out a paper pattern and pasting it for a fill is really a good idea.
sorry.

voted ase.
dude you have no room to talk, none at all
haha.... i love doing this to you shifted.

i have plenty of room to talk because i took the time to color my piece, and form better letters, and put in a decent 3d. [/b][/quote]
thats the funniest damn thing ive ever heard in my life&#33;

you have room to talk...ha&#33;


yeah you colored yours in....whipdeefuckindoo

still doesnt mean yours has braging rights over someone who nearly ties you every week

so no dude, you dont have room to talk




unless your shits perfect, and its not, then keep your shut your fuckin mouth






if you love doing this so damn bad, put it to the end and battle me, id love to see that [/b][/quote]
ok sounds good.

i gotta finish my diam piece... it&#39;ll probably take me a few days.
so think about what you wanna write.
i&#39;ll pm when im done with the diam piece, and ready to work on this battle piece.
and you can let me know what it is were gonna write (i&#39;ll let you pick) and also set up a date to finish and stuff.

[sik_WIT_it]

i see you tech&#33; shits fresh love that style man and mine was poopie srry

[>riseone<]

i voted ashid the nd wud b shifted

[Baper Moves Kilos. <3]

ase. definitely.

was gonna enter, but forgot haha. this was my entry:
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e336/notvdoctor/saber.jpg

props to the kid and stink fish and a couple other heads that knew what they were doing.

[koper]

First of all
StinkyFishNinja&#39;s looks nothing like anything i have ever seen by GES 3A, so i have no clue where you got that idea, but if you&#39;re going to accuse someone of a bite DEKOR, atleast provide a pic.

And sh1fted and aShiD, the only way you guys will get your battle polled is if both entries are good, and somehow i cant see that happening, sorry. Squash the beef, truth of the matter is that aSHiD is learning lots about letter forms and colours and would kill sh1fted any day IMO.

And dont forget peeps
word is DAIM, not DIAM

[ShIfTeD]

i pmed c3zr

we&#39;ll take it from there....it may not be polled in the battle section, but it can be polled in the toy section

and if he would kill me, why hasnt he been "killing me" in the polls?


w/e im sick of arguing this, we can decide all this bull shit when one of us wins the battle

[koper]

^ b/c the people voting in the toy battle poll dont know what good graf is&#33;&#33;&#33;

[ShIfTeD]

its all an opinion, listen to what yor saying......good graffiti is an opinion....thats why they make red cars and they make black cars


thats like me saying i love saber and you saying you hate him...whos opinion is true? the one who hates it or the one who loves it?

my point is that ok, some graffiti looks like shit, but the style is up to the writer

[Enemy]

Originally posted by koper@Dec 6 2006, 06:15 PM
^ b/c the people voting in the toy battle poll dont know what good graf is&#33;&#33;&#33;
i dont think thats just in the toy battle polls

voted kasp...your mates got a good style

yo koper i got an idea after the daim battle. you should do a &#39;just letters&#39; battle where the word isnt coloured atall or no 3d so people vote on letters not colours...because at the end of the day thats what counts rite???
peace

[ShIfTeD]

i think thats a splendid idea...because 80% of the time people get caught up in the colors and shit

[BRAINE]

Originally posted by ShIfTeD@Dec 6 2006, 06:11 PM
and if he would kill me, why hasnt he been "killing me" in the polls?

as i type this he has 8 votes and you have 1.
im geussing you voted for yourself, so unless that is not the case he murdered you on this battle.


my point is that ok, some graffiti looks like shit, but the style is up to the writer

there is a fine line between individual style and whack as fuck.




and koper- i dont know what you are talking about, but stinkyfish ninja definitely was biting geser as well as ensoe in that submission. if you dont know, then you probly havent seen alot of geser. let me go get some flicks to back up my opinion, im thinking about his frieghts not his walls.

[BRAINE]

terrible examples. its not like it was a good bite to begin with though

geser 3a:

http://www.graffiti.org/conn/ges_lc_9-5-02.jpg
http://www.lounge37.com/images/65/Ges_6512.jpg
http://www.graffiti.org/conn/ges_lc_9-19-02.jpg
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9902/772250ges47uv.jpg

not perfect examples like i said, but i see where dekor is coming from


and for ensoe bite, look at the extensions as well as the 3-d:

http://www.graffiti.org/ensoe/calgary2005_ensoe_tunnel.jpg
http://www.graffiti.org/ensoe/ensoe_41st_seven11_2005.jpg
http://www.lounge37.com/images/78/Bombing-ensoe-burner_7801.jpg


biting is lame. he also pmed me and told me to eat a dick.

[ShIfTeD]

Originally posted by BRAINE+Dec 6 2006, 06:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (BRAINE @ Dec 6 2006, 06:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by ShIfTeD@Dec 6 2006, 06:11 PM
and if he would kill me, why hasnt he been "killing me" in the polls?

as i type this he has 8 votes and you have 1.
im geussing you voted for yourself, so unless that is not the case he murdered you on this battle.


my point is that ok, some graffiti looks like shit, but the style is up to the writer

there is a fine line between individual style and whack as fuck.




and koper- i dont know what you are talking about, but stinkyfish ninja definitely was biting geser as well as ensoe in that submission. if you dont know, then you probly havent seen alot of geser. let me go get some flicks to back up my opinion, im thinking about his frieghts not his walls. [/b]
<!--QuoteBegin-ShIfTeD@Dec 6 2006, 06:11 PM
and if he would kill me, why hasnt he been "killing me" in the polls?
[/quote]

key word hasnt ass hole.....this is 1 battle that isnt even finished yet




there is a fine line between individual style and whack as fuck

exactly what i said, thanks for restating whats already been stated

[BRAINE]

i was sayin that your shit is whack as fuck although you think you are on some next level bullshit.




eat a dick homeboy :)
nice.
no two ways about it, you are a straight up biter.
thanks
the only thing i&#39;m biting is my lip,when i see your pieces :)
have fun on the dick ride&#33;
^what stinky fish ninja told me in a pm

i geuss he almost came when he saw one of my pieces or something.

['aSHiD"]

damn..... shits gettin kinda heavy in the battle polls.

and i kinda like it.



oh yeah... and i had an outline done for diam.... but its daim.... so i get to start over.
fuck&#33;&#33;&#33;

[koper]

as far as stinkyfishninja&#39;s is concerned i dont see any similarity between those GES flicks and stinky&#39;s style. Nonetheless, those are flicks i have never seen, so im sure there are more. And as far as Ensoe&#39;s 3d is concerned. That is becoming a pretty standardised element now. A fair bit of writers are using that in their pieces. Who&#39;s to say you can really even consider ensoe the first to do it? Either way, stinkyfish&#39;s 3d is way different, only similarity it has with ensoe&#39;s is that it has a gradient fading out.
But it doesnt really matter anyway cuz it&#39;s not that great a piece. i have definitely seen nicer stuff from stinky before.

And sh1fted, yes, style does belong to a writer, but it needs to be executed properly. What makes someone leave toydom? When you look at a piece, and youre like "that is fuckin raw", there are reasons for that. Those are the reasons that make someone a good graffiti artist. If what you were saying was true then there would be no line between a good writer and a toy, because everyone&#39;s style would be subjective. There are objective elements in graf which give a piece visual merit. Stuff like flow, consistency, good colour schemes (Yes, colour does matter, HUGELY), good line weight, cleanliness, realism, all these elements, and way more. So dont say that graf is completely subjective because it is not. I have thought this through many times but in order to be a good writer you need to conform, atleast just a little bit. The only other way to be a good writer is to set standards, but that is hard to come by these days, not to say it never happens, but it is rare, and only some truly artistic people can do that.

[DJLotus]

fokus because for some reason i love the style.. don&#39;t really know why but it just looks heavy.

[StinkyFishNinja]

Originally posted by BRAINE@Dec 6 2006, 07:15 PM
i was sayin that your shit is whack as fuck although you think you are on some next level bullshit.




eat a dick homeboy :)Â*
nice.
no two ways about it, you are a straight up biter.
thanks
the only thing i&#39;m biting is my lip,when i see your pieces :)
have fun on the dick ride&#33;
^what stinky fish ninja told me in a pm

i geuss he almost came when he saw one of my pieces or something.
hahaha now your posting my pms,you got way too much time on your hands homegirl,this is between nobody but you and me,yet you wanna go public.what you can&#39;t handle me by yourself?it&#39;s all good, this just marks you as a bitch,you know if you saw me painting in the street you would never come up to me and call me a biter,s&#39;funny,i never even heard of ensoe till you dropped his name like he should be on a baseball card,i bet you even put your graff mags in mylar you fuckin nerd,either way fuck you and whatever crew you roll with,i&#39;ll smash your shit if you try to test you little ho.

yea koper,i know i didn&#39;t come with, it that was just some quick shit to kill time on my break...

[StinkyFishNinja]

oh yea and I WOULD love to see one of your pieces...

[ShIfTeD]

Originally posted by koper@Dec 6 2006, 08:04 PM
as far as stinkyfishninja&#39;s is concerned i dont see any similarity between those GES flicks and stinky&#39;s style. Nonetheless, those are flicks i have never seen, so im sure there are more. And as far as Ensoe&#39;s 3d is concerned. That is becoming a pretty standardised element now. A fair bit of writers are using that in their pieces. Who&#39;s to say you can really even consider ensoe the first to do it? Either way, stinkyfish&#39;s 3d is way different, only similarity it has with ensoe&#39;s is that it has a gradient fading out.
But it doesnt really matter anyway cuz it&#39;s not that great a piece. i have definitely seen nicer stuff from stinky before.

And sh1fted, yes, style does belong to a writer, but it needs to be executed properly. What makes someone leave toydom? When you look at a piece, and youre like "that is fuckin raw", there are reasons for that. Those are the reasons that make someone a good graffiti artist. If what you were saying was true then there would be no line between a good writer and a toy, because everyone&#39;s style would be subjective. There are objective elements in graf which give a piece visual merit. Stuff like flow, consistency, good colour schemes (Yes, colour does matter, HUGELY), good line weight, cleanliness, realism, all these elements, and way more. So dont say that graf is completely subjective because it is not. I have thought this through many times but in order to be a good writer you need to conform, atleast just a little bit. The only other way to be a good writer is to set standards, but that is hard to come by these days, not to say it never happens, but it is rare, and only some truly artistic people can do that.
somthing with that many big words that i dont understand probobly makes perfect sence

my damn illiteracy

man i never said that there isnt a difference between toy and pro

im just saying that everyone has their own opinion....in my crew, im the only one that likes and looks up to savager, some of them think that some of his stuff is "toy"

there are obvious things that seperate toys from pros

an inconsistant fill

shakky lines

uneven spacing






What makes someone leave toydom? When you look at a piece, and youre like "that is fuckin raw

thats just pure opinion man...i can step back to someones stuff and say it stupid, when someone thinks its awsome




im not even gonna argue with you anymore koper....why? because i will say in 100% confidence that you know way more then i do about the concepts of art....i never took an art class, shit i hardly go to school.....but mabe if i had a strong art background my stuff would be better

i respect you as an artist and as a person never loosing your cool, and your painted stuff....and to be honest i dont think i can back up my opinion anymore

if you wish to continue this debate, pm me, id be more than happy to settle things

[*570 Ambush]

for me, between ashid, the kid, blitz, and fokus but i went with fokus, some of those though...like hip hop bomber what the fuck? and craz-e one i just would like to know what the fuck that is, idk i dident like some of the letter structure in fish ninja or w/e....i just haded craze or w/e cuz i dont even know what the hell it is...at all..dont see any letters...anyone feel the same way?

[ShIfTeD]

Originally posted by BRAINE@Dec 6 2006, 07:13 PM
http://www.lounge37.com/images/78/Bombing-ensoe-burner_7801.jpg


biting is lame. he also pmed me and told me to eat a dick.
waaah waaah, he called me a name&#33;

who cares...not that i ever had any respect at all for you but if i did have any bit of it, i lost it after you quoted a pm from him

that stoops as low as snitching


and dude get a life...you never have any positive to say and you probobly get your jollys off of prooving someone bit somthing






stinkyfishninjas entry isnt a bite at all....i wouldnt even say its a partial bite


for the extensions, everyone does those, ensoe didnt invent extensions

for the 3d, so what if he did, its not really a bite unless you take the same structuure as the writer, he didnt



biting is lame
you know what else is lame? riding every fuckin members dick on bombingscience

the only person ive seen you not fuck with was treo


and ive been around since the 1st day you became a member

[*570 Ambush]

argue with me on this but sh1fted i really dont think u can compare opinions between graffiti art and between a blue and black car....im not ganna explain it, maybe you should think about it

[theKid.]

jesus i thought i was on
12oz for a second..
yalls need to chill a bit.

ps.
whythefuck am i winning?
my shit sucked this week.

[StinkyFishNinja]

Originally posted by *570 Ambush@Dec 6 2006, 09:06 PM
argue with me on this but sh1fted i really dont think u can compare opinions between graffiti art and between a blue and black car....im not ganna explain it, maybe you should think about it
maybe YOU should think about it,in the sense of preference...

[ShIfTeD]

Originally posted by *570 Ambush@Dec 6 2006, 09:06 PM
argue with me on this but sh1fted i really dont think u can compare opinions between graffiti art and between a blue and black car....im not ganna explain it, maybe you should think about it
its not even worthy of an argument dude....and for god sakes look at my damn post, did i ever say that graffiti and black and red cars where the same? NO&#33;

i said its an opinion thats why they make black and red cars because different people have different opinions on things

i.e. the color of the fucking car you buy



god damn...and i thought i was a dumbass

['aSHiD"]

i think the battle fourm is on the verge of starting "internet blood wars".

im excited to see where this goes.
if i watched tv i wouldnt even need to do that anymore, all the drama is right here.

[/*BlItZ*\]

for fucks sake are all the battles like this? i wanna see some critisism not some whiny net-beef. i bet it aint like this on 12oz

[Slushi]

Shifted&#39;s is fucking terrible. Just when I thought he was half decent.

[HoodRichSucka]

vidorone, simple and nice

-d

[vidorone]

:D cheers dude

[SpLiTbomber]

akim def, looks fresh with the kick ass flagand and nice letters

for a toy battle im seeing more talent than usual, good compostitions, nice color schemes, and the plaid was kick ass

[kustem]

i liked your saber tooth Kid, went well with your piece, but overall aKim&#39;s piece stood out imo.

[Excalibur]

No offense kid, but you&#39;re right, that Chara was weak as hell, and the letters looked fucked also. But, I guess it&#39;s good eye candy. No beef

[theKid.]

i agree. most toys just see
a charak and automatically
vote for it..

[cast LI]

i liked theKid&#39;s piece but the cat was kinda lame.


voted for akin. nice fill.

shifted- no offense bro but all your shit looks exactly the same. try some new styles

[tickz]

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b320/tickz2/tickzparis2.jpg

1st post.can i battle???????

[Zero (8)]

thekid thats sick brah.

[Msfyt]

viderone
without color it still kills

[Baper Moves Kilos. <3]

"ryan" or "tyan" would have way more votes if he had a good camera or scanner. that euro&#39;s lookin pretty nice.

[cast LI]

Originally posted by tickz@Dec 9 2006, 08:54 PM
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b320/tickz2/tickzparis2.jpg

1st post.can i battle???????
sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee t

[Skesh]

vidorone
its easy to read (i like that), and very stylish