Sellouts????? You Decide...

[Ozone]

i was in footlocker the other day, and i came across a new graffiti style line of shoes, called the "End to End" collection. Basically they got people like cantwo and 6 other graf writers to design trainers. Im not sure what i make of these, cos some of the shoes are quite nice, what do you guys think.....??

the site is here www.endtoendproject.com/

[Kayone707]

adidas makes the shoes...


i dont know the whole deal about "sell outs" fuck. .its just how the hustle goes. everyone's soo quick to call someone a sell out and talk shit just because they making money.

yall know if someone offered to pay you big $$$ for a shirt design or a shoe design you would be quick to do it.

[Excalibur]

^^^^ Word up, 'cause dudes be talkin like they do graffiti for fame and shit....what you think gettin paid for designin shoes is??? That's fame man. Like Cope2 said, do you, dudes always gone call you a sellout unless they get your fame and status, so fuck em man. Only sellouts is snitches.

[MoLD]

^ i agree
if someone offered me money to do somethin id do it in a second
but i dont think anyone would be that stupid



"remember i didnt sell out,
i bought in"

[BURN(914_Demise)]

life is one big hustle a race to the top and money normally gets you there they just climbin the ladder

[Big TL Springs]

plus its nice to se adidas treat graff with some respect, give it a positve(er) image yuh know wha i mean man?

[BIGel]

^bullshit. all these companies, addidas, echo, nike, etc etc dont give a fuck about graffiti as long as it makes them money. if graffiti wasnt the next cool thing for the kids you be damned sure they wouldnt be supporting us.

[SPI-3]

yo i was just checkin out that site and it didnt look like u could get 'em in the states. whats that about?

[MoLD]

theyre not sellouts
thats what i think
:unsure:




im such a tool

[Kayone707]

what are you talking about?
they sell them in the USA
__

ALSO

the topic is about SELLOUTS and the end-to-end SHOES...

not if adidas cares about graffiti.. so drop that shit

[AnteUp]

Originally posted by Kayone707@Apr 9 2007, 12:22 AM
adidas makes the shoes...


i dont know the whole deal about "sell outs" fuck. .its just how the hustle goes. everyone's soo quick to call someone a sell out and talk shit just because they making money.

yall know if someone offered to pay you big $$$ for a shirt design or a shoe design you would be quick to do it.
umm im not sure but i thougth he was talkin about sellin out in tha store like out of stock and they need to get more cuz theyre so popular...

[FOEone]

i dont give a shit who's making money off of who. when it comes to graff, there's only one person i'm concerned about, and that's me.

[pizzleaint]

i wouldnt call the dudes sell outs by far

rime or can2 those dudes are fucking amazing

me personally i get siked when i see that a writer that still writes is makin money of what hes doin wether its clothing design or something of the sort

[DEKOR]

SCIEN AND KLOR, 123KLAN designed the shoes..
and made the project happen


They are no sellouts..

[DEKOR]

Originally posted by pizzleaint@Apr 9 2007, 04:50 AM
i wouldnt call the dudes sell outs by far

rime or can2 those dudes are fucking amazing

me personally i get siked when i see that a writer that still writes is makin money of what hes doin wether its clothing design or something of the sort
personaly i feel like if u respect the graff culture and UNDERSTAND it..
u can sell ur designs or canvases wateva, influenced by graff..
it has become part of u, so of course ur gona use it to make money..

as long as u dont take graffiti for a "cool flash colorful" thang to make money off..

[Geo]

Do you know how much money they are going to make?

I'd sell my mother for that kind of money!

[nero122]

basicly u live n die what you do in life doesnt mean shit unless you somhow change the wolrd which only a few have

[ZOT]

I dont like these shoes etc. I think its stupid to walk around with (someones else his) tags

[aeon]

^^^
yeh thats pretty swag
n fuck having cantwo bboys on em. really bait.
the sillouette ones are alright still. more minimal the better...

[alive]

the skore shoes are kind of dope. but u cant get them in the US! damnit. look at the stores' section, we have no option.

[Slushi]

They're awesome.

[sketch3]

the skors are the only ones id rocck, id prefer if they werent brown

[alive]

word. what do those laces say? just skore skore skore?

as to the kids who say fuck reppin other writers, if u real enough, u can rep them and still be known as the best. not that im in this situation, im just saying.

[alive]

http://www.footlocker.com/catalog/productd.../supercat--spor (http://www.footlocker.com/catalog/productdetail/supercat--spor)



haha found it, they arent available for shipping yet. but they do come to the US.

[ZOT]

http://a712.g.akamai.net/7/712/225/v20061002fl/www.footlocker.com/images/products/zoom/017180_z.jpg

These ones are nice but not that special..

[Kayone707]

i like the Rime ones for some reason

[nero122]

i like the skore ones but theyre brown n u know wat they say if its brown put it down .(cnt remember where i saw that )

[alive]

http://a712.g.akamai.net/7/712/225/v20061002fl/www.footlocker.com/images/products/zoom/017169_z.jpg

to be honest, i dont like the R or E all that much, but theyre still dope. considering getting them . . . . waddaya think

[Kayone707]

ewww.

[nero122]

the only thing i like is the piece but i could just buy some plain ones n do em my self

[moltov]

Originally posted by nero122@Apr 9 2007, 11:39 AM
the only thing i like is the piece but i could just buy some plain ones n do em my self
WORD
why pay like $100 more than you have to. to have someone else's name on your shoes?
If you want graffiti on your shoes, go to a store buy some paint markers and do it your self. I dont really think that they are selling out but I think that they know that they arent gonna get alot of respect.
but whatever they are probably getting mad money off those shoes so why not do it and make stupid rich people pay way too much for what they are getting.

[~{'Ze_drunken_Vandal'}*LV*~]

Shirts was nice, but on shoes u need some throw-ups.

[Hask420]

i think they look like shit

[ODonthesetrees]

Originally posted by Excalibur@Apr 9 2007, 12:33 AM
Only sellouts is snitches.
that and writers who changed hwo they write to make money, liek if you rock an ill style but some clothing company hires you to bite someone say cantwos style, thats a sellout too

[Sumoe]

everyone needs to chill about "sellouts" they need paper too...stop hatin'...I know if they would pay me to do that shit I'd be all for it.

[BoRe-719-]

word, i think the majority of us as brokeass writers get jealous or envious of someone who starts making money off of graff. whos got an opinion on shepard fairey?

[JEDI-MASTER]

word up i agrees wif excalibur nd kayo shit if i was dat good id jump on dat wagon to son, moneys is money dont make u a sellout to make money doin wat u like, i mean shit look at da baseball playas they endorse other products nd day still playin ball nah mean so yall dont b so quik to judge

[JEDI-MASTER]

shit i think dem kicks r fresh either way, so ima comp me a pair of dem word up

[JEDI-MASTER]

BORE speak up on it homie wat u mean by shepard, wat u talkin bout his clothes? dey iight but personally wildstyle techinicians make sum of da best hip hop clothes, mainly graff but dey cover da whole culture, nd yea i gotta say ecko's clothes nd shits fresh 2 but sum yall think otherwise das fine 2 we all got our own styles but yo hit me BACK

[AteskOne]

way to triple post <_< . EDIT BUTTON...it's there for a reason.

i personally would love to design shoes if it got me money. this does not make them a sell out. if anything it boosts their popularity loads because more of the main stream world will see their work. might also create new wave of toys that will be worse than the wave from mark ecko's getting up. who knows. anyways those rimes are fresh and i'm thinking bout copping a pair...maybe even those sillouettes.

[Alchohlics_Anonymous]

Yo son I heard Cope is workin on a new line of pampers, for them hood rat babies... Ima cop a pair and just wear em because I can....

[Sumoe]

Originally posted by JEDI-MASTER@Apr 9 2007, 08:51 PM
BORE speak up on it homie wat u mean by shepard, wat u talkin bout his clothes? dey iight but personally wildstyle techinicians make sum of da best hip hop clothes, mainly graff but dey cover da whole culture, nd yea i gotta say ecko's clothes nd shits fresh 2 but sum yall think otherwise das fine 2 we all got our own styles but yo hit me BACK
do you even know who Shepard Fairey is?

[JEDI-MASTER]

um yea, created "andre the giant" known for his wheat pastes n shit

[JEDI-MASTER]

nd atesk i dindnt triple post, i posted 3 seperate times so as not to confuse my topics

[Stim]

So you triple posted...

Anyway, theres no such thing as a graffiti scene. It's just a bunch of artists hating each others shit. The shoes look fucking retarted by the way.

[Sumoe]

Originally posted by JEDI-MASTER@Apr 9 2007, 10:15 PM
um yea, created "andre the giant" known for his wheat pastes n shit
wasn't sure cause you were talkin' bout his clothes or some shit...nvm then.

[JEDI-MASTER]

well i suppose if u c it like that then yea i did triple post, but yo i think da best thing to do is leave graff on da walls nd n our blackbooks but i like dem shoes nd sum dont its w/e we all have our oppions on wat we like nd wat we find dope, but pesonally if u gous want shoes just grab sum dunks or af1's i know dis aint the sneaker thread but im jus aplain my position, just so there aint no onfusion

[JEDI-MASTER]

sumoe, dont even worry bout dat, like wen he brought up shepard i thought he was talkin bout his clothes line not his art dat was my misinterpretation

[dest-ne]

hahaha
its great how when cats be makin a gwap usin theyre talent people wanna hate
makin cash off of your art dosent make u a sell out
as long as your doin it for the right reasons

for example
ill make a piece for the fuck of it
and if someone offers me some cash for it and if it ha little moral value
ima make that bread

they arnt sell outs
theyre educated hustlas

[sens1]

*****s got to eat.

[jez]

corny shit, i bet you'll start seeing lil jawns wearing these running around with their marc ecko games and lil krylon cans. WOOO go PRODUCT PLACEMENT & MARKETING! fuck

[Kayone707]

^your telling me you wear Nothing thats name brand?

[sketch3]

Originally posted by Kayone707@Apr 10 2007, 05:03 PM
^your telling me you wear Nothing
thats how it should be

[jez]

I wear nothing, all day everyday. Birthday suit baby.
but seriously, I just think this shit is corny. Im sorry but if you really wanna wear another artists throwup or wildstyle on your shoe then you are mad corny.
go get a pair of white adidas and do it yourself. Dont spend 90$ on some bullshit.

[FaultO]

who cares?

there's other things to worry about in life than who is designing what shoe or what type of condom Condoleza Rice prefers.... which we all know is no condom, she pushes the bareback bump.

worry about gettting your dicks caught in your zipper. not adidas.

[Ozone]

[QUOTE] (fault0) worry about gettting your dicks caught in your zipper. not adidas



LMAO... Thats how it should be. Im pretty amazed by the response im gettin for this topic, cos its all pretty mixed. Even if you did get a pair of plain stan smiths or soforth, i doubt you could get the whole "adidas sweat shop quality" that you get with these shoes, so i can see both sides... Personally i'm not gettin these shoes, cos i think in a few months time, everybody will have forgotten about em, so its good old air force and a few markers i suppose...