Va Tech Massacre

[tame345]

THis will be a memorial to the ppl that died during the shootings on monday if you know anybody or if u kno they are writers, post anything to remember the 33 victims.


CLIZ A.k.a ACE

[nero122]

shit my gf cousin went there thank god she's not dead,rest in peace to all those who died.

[eyesore]

your girlfriend is your cousin?

[MoLD]

his girlfriedns cousin


RIP peoples

[yakrian]

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a237/yakrian/Picture53.jpg

Just put this in my book. My thoughts and sympathies go out to all those affected. I used to live in VA Beach, and I knew plenty of VT students. My condolences. :(

[SpLiTbomber]

buy stocks from companies that do security for schools and get rich!

however rip to those who died

[elcs]

Originally posted by SpLiTbomber@Apr 18 2007, 05:26 PM
buy stocks from companies that do security for schools and get rich!
...how very appropriate

[whahappen?]

fucked up

[JETc17]

r.i.p. everyone who died, i hope the families find refuge somehow. what a terrible loss.

[Hyphy]

yeh r.i.p. to all those victims. someone should do a mural or somethin

[whynot?]

r.i.p

[bobo9827]

r.i.p to the people who died , may they be at a better place

[...uhh]

so sad, this has a butterfly effect to millions of people world wide ! being born and raised in va i can say im so proud of how strong the va tech students, and my fellow virginians are holding up. im so scarred by this ill never be the same, and i feel so sorry for every1 , even the killa, he was deeply sad and blinded by saddness and rage. dont hate cho, pity him.
LETS GO HOKIES

[SpLiTbomber]

Originally posted by elcs+Apr 18 2007, 06:13 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (elcs @ Apr 18 2007, 06:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-SpLiTbomber@Apr 18 2007, 05:26 PM
buy stocks from companies that do security for schools and get rich!
...how very appropriate [/b][/quote]
maybe not quite apropriate so my apologies if i offended anyone..
however it is quite true, my buddies dad works with a security company n hes been on live news twice already talking about how they can improve schools to be safer for such incidents.. my point, my bud's guna b filthy rich because things like this really open up peoples eyes

again rip to those 33 whom perished and may the 27 [ ? ] left be alright

[RFI. SPit]

My deepest sympathies and grievances go out to the people killed, and the families and friends that lost them.

[tame345]

hey u did tha pic wrong go to www.slide.com then upload it from there


RIP to everyone there who died it is 34 i think now

[dotone]

it sucks alot of people died, and my symphathy goes to those who lost loved ones



but the news isnt helping relieve the situation, and continues to bring up issues that are irrelivent and keep everyone in fear of some korean guy coming and shooting them up.

[MR3___DOP]

rest in peace

it sucks the media is more worried about making guns look bad than remembering those who died

[dotone]

exactly

[tame345]

fucked up the coloring becuz i only have sharpies right now some one jacked my touch twins :(

VA TECH RIP MISSED BY ALL


http://widget.slide.com/rdr/1/1/3/W/20000000749d79a/1/29/smByk6rv5j9TOcfCFNJ5xzJxgD__vDgZ.jpg (http://www.slide.com/s/Itb6CTV17T-tc76cYXMY12S2xYTF9k7G?referrer=hlnk)

[moltov]

this is dumb on a serious topic BUT... I heard from someone that the serial killer went to his paint store and they were out of the coors he wanted so he snapped

^not saying its true but thats the word on the street

[RFI. SPit]

Originally posted by moltov@Apr 18 2007, 10:02 PM
this is dumb on a serious topic BUT... I heard from someone that the serial killer went to his paint store and they were out of the coors he wanted so he snapped

^not saying its true but thats the word on the street
No.... thats completely wrong


Read up on it.

Latest news over at www.cnn.com (http://www.cnn.com)

again, my deepest grievances to everybody affected.

[tame345]

this is tose to be a serious topic guys damn

if yall keep sayin random shi dat aint about the victims it will be closed

[*570 Ambush]

RIP! good thread. that was absolutly horrible. my heart go's out to the families and freinds. i definitly know how death in a family is like so i pray for them.

[Stim]

"you've never felt an ounce of pain in your entire lives..." -VT shooter.

[dcite]

yeah, seriously messed up stuff.

[JETc17]

va shooter can rest in piss

[Sumoe]

R.I.P. everyone who died, including the shooter, he obviously had some psychological problems.

[Live4TheWall]

Originally posted by tame345@Apr 18 2007, 10:08 PM
this is tose to be a serious topic guys damn

if yall keep sayin random shi dat aint about the victims it will be closed
yes it will, just like the 200 other ones that are good for the week after something. Dont be sad people died, be happy they were alive.







Shit Happens.

[-s|N-]

The media is fucking shit up like they usually do, causing panic so people will be scared. The next thing you know, there will be higher taxes for "security" in schools. People should really pay more attention to the behavior of others. The warning signs were all around the shooter, and the gun store owner should have used his brain to figure out why one person would purchase two pistols at the same time.

Other than that.

R.I.P Deceased of Virginia Tech, it wasn't your time/times.

[a_slave_to_creation]

shit happens u live then u die..... why feel sorry for a naturally occuring thing. it happens in nature all the time. why then is it so farfetched for a human to give into the carnal desire to destroy those that are weak. yup im an asshole and im fucked up in the head, tell me something new.

[Sumoe]

it's not a naturally occurring thing to shoot 30 some odd people and then kill yourself, in nature a lion will not kill more than it needs to to survive unless it feels threatened or there is something wrong with it. In nature an animal will try to survive and kill so it can eat, the shooter was not killing to survive, he killed himself. Don't make it sound like it is a normal occurrence in nature. Killing 30 something people is sick and disgusting, don't justify his actions.

[-s|N-]

EDIT: Sumoe you beat me to it.
Sumoe I think he's trying to say that death happens to everyone, but I definitely agree with you.

[T R E O]

fucked up.RIP to all those who died and may all injured recover.Horrible event.My prayers out to all the friends/families/people affected by this event.

[*MNR*]

May they rest in peace...

[Live4TheWall]

Originally posted by Sumoe@Apr 19 2007, 12:06 AM
... in nature a lion will not kill more than it needs to to survive unless it feels threatened or

there is something wrong with it.
Read his plays, Theres something wrong with him.


"And Remember, Its Always Better To Burn Out Than Fade Away".

[aoime]

Originally posted by Sumoe@Apr 19 2007, 12:06 AM
... in nature a lion will not kill more than it needs to to survive unless it feels threatened or there is something wrong with it....


Killing 30 something people is sick and disgusting, don't justify his actions.
By saying this first part you are saying it would be considered a normal/natural would be justified if you "lion" felt threatened or there was something "wrong" with it. Can it not be argued that the shooter felt "threatened" by society? Or even that the shooter had something "wrong" in his head, does that not mean it would be considered natural?

If seems that death and not being able to understand the mind fully is a natural occurence that will always confuse and scare humankind.

Be sorry or whatever for these people, but dont make it seem it is so farfetched that it doesnt happen on a daily basis on this holy planet earth.








/rant

[a_slave_to_creation]

it's not a naturally occurring thing to shoot 30 some odd people and then kill yourself, in nature a lion will not kill more than it needs to to survive unless it feels threatened or there is something wrong with it. In nature an animal will try to survive and kill so it can eat, the shooter was not killing to survive, he killed himself. Don't make it sound like it is a normal occurrence in nature. Killing 30 something people is sick and disgusting, don't justify his actions.

ever see a cat toy with a mouse? it could kill it any second, but it chooses to torture it. it does it because it has power over the weak. then when it does kill it, it might not even eat it, it just did it because. another example: primates do it all the time, generally larger species of gorillas will go and 'raid' other smaller primates territories and massacre them by crushing their skulls and ripping off their limbs, not becuase they were threatened but because they were there and vulnerable. man needs to kill to feel value. ever use a magnifying glass to burn ants? its the same thing, you feel like a god. so why then is it so strange to replace the ants with fellow man, would you not get the same pleasure? the scary thing is, i bet you would. we all would enjoy destroying something, crushing a life. its power, and that is what humans live for.

[.A.K.4.7.]

Are you guys really surprised this happened? It's happened many times before each time getting more and more deadly. When will the US take a good look at its attitude toward firearms, and make a true stop to this shit happening.

Wack, RIP.

[lets.go.paint]

Rest In Peace all victims and condolences to all affected.
I was affected here in Australia... I just felt for all the horrific things people would have seen and are enduring right now.

[i eat pringles]

we shouldn't excogitate the matter...things like this happen all the time.

[Msfyt]

Originally posted by i eat pringles@Apr 19 2007, 07:54 AM
we shouldn't excogitate the matter...things like this happen all the time.
actually things like this dont happen all the time

the most deadlist before this was columbine and i believe that was only 11 victims
so perhaps a little sympathy for those that were only trying to better their lives

but dont get me wrong i have just as much sympathy for the one victim everyone likes to blame

[revolt92]

It's kinda stupid that all he had to do was tick the box that said 'no mental health problems' and he was ablr to buy a firearm, you can say all you want about the british goverment but this wouldn't happen over here.

R.I.P. guys :(

[Spector]

That asian dude looked like a lame....
I read his writings...
He wrote two plays mr. Brownstone and mr mcbeef...
Both plays were fuckin stupid..
I thought they were more retarded than insane...
Shayesaintjohn.com
Thats his webpage

(Want the link to his writings?...Ask)

[i eat pringles]

I know its a clique, but look at the situation in the Far-East.
Lives claimed at the expense of brutalistic slaughter----minimal media coverage.

[runci]

i fink we need to pray for the guy who killed all these people

something was really wrong with him
he didnt get the help he needed

i think if you were to blame anyone.. it woul;d be the people who didnt offer him help

i seen his english teacher interviewed on the news...
she said she went to different places... police etc trying to get help for him
yet no1 would help him


my prayers go to the victims.. their friends and family and the murderer and his friends and family




RIP

[i write]

Rest In Peace to all those involved. the shooter was just a victim of society, and more specifically american society. the gun laws over there are the real crime because they allow kids like this to buy guns. im not trying to say it wasnt his fault but he is the result of a fukd up world, and the gun laws made revenge that much easier. Fuck him, its unfathomable that one person can have so much hate in them, and again, my condolences and love to those killed injured and affected.



CHANGE THE FUCKING GUN LAWS, BECAUSE IT WILL KEEP HAPPENING

[Sumoe]

Originally posted by Spector@Apr 19 2007, 10:41 AM
That asian dude looked like a lame....
I read his writings...
He wrote two plays mr. Brownstone and mr mcbeef...
Both plays were fuckin stupid..
I thought they were more retarded than insane...
Shayesaintjohn.com
Thats his webpage

(Want the link to his writings?...Ask)
people like you are probably part of the reason he did it...

of course he went overboard and was probably a psychopath, but maybe if people would have helped him instead of calling him a "lame" maybe he wouldn't have done it...In no way am I trying to justify his actions but people need to learn how to look for the signs and help people who obviously has psychological disorders.

[...uhh]

please dont use this thread to bash gun laws, america, or the shooter. this is a horrible tragedy not an oppurtunity to make political point.

THIS IS A MEMORIAL THREAD

RIP ALL THOSE KILLED , AND THE KILLER

[a_slave_to_creation]

memorial? it happened, its over...... move on. why do we feel the need to 'kick a dead horse'? fuck man, people still cry over columbine, and how many years have gone by? just move on with your lives people, if you didnt get shot, then there's no reason to keep crying. let it die already.

[elcs]

Originally posted by ...uhh@Apr 19 2007, 11:41 AM
please dont use this thread to bash gun laws, america, or the shooter. this is a horrible tragedy not an oppurtunity to make political point.

THIS IS A MEMORIAL THREAD

RIP ALL THOSE KILLED , AND THE KILLER
exactly. everybody is using this tradgey to make a political point.

what got me yesterday was that oprah had a fucking hour long special on this just to tug at our heart strings to get viewers. its fucking sick how people like her who claim to care so much would turn this into a money making oppertunity. it was pointless and made me sick.

[Proper-issh]

Stuff like this makes you appreciated the human race. It's horrible, that we need an event this immense to feel for one another. But maybe, people will realize how grateful they should be and respect ATLEST people they know.

R.I.P. VT Victims.
R.I.P Choh Seoung Hui.
R.I.P Waster.
R.I.P. Sammy, I love you bruvvah.

[kersrone]

32 American Students > 62086 (min) Civilian Iraqi Casualties

Some guy goes apeshit and kills 32 people and everyone thinks its the most terrible thing ever, when much more terrible things are happening all the time, behind their backs - or worse yet - right before their eyes.
Fuck nationalistic pride. Fuck having a memorial for 32 people but ignorring 62k.

[Live4TheWall]

"this is a horrible tragedy not an opportunity to make political point."


You obviously dont understand politics very well. This is probably gonna be a massive point in alot of politicians arguements for a while. Hilliary Clinton has already been trying to make gun laws more strict. I mean fuck I got a call from the NRA the other day asking me if I support them or her and I said I support hand to hand combat and then asked them how much they'd pay me to deliver her head on a plate using nothing but my hands, to prove that guns are just an object, and that its the people who are the dangerous ones. (myself included)

[Spector]

Originally posted by kersrone@Apr 19 2007, 01:16 PM
32 American Students > 62086 (min) Civilian Iraqi Casualties

Some guy goes apeshit and kills 32 people and everyone thinks its the most terrible thing ever, when much more terrible things are happening all the time, behind their backs - or worse yet - right before their eyes.
Fuck nationalistic pride. Fuck having a memorial for 32 people but ignorring 62k.
Shut the fuck up....
Forgetting 32 you might as well forget the 62k...
And no people like me are not the reason he did it....
He did it because he couldnt handle the world...Insanity in my eye is people who are mentally inferior than the rest but use their violence to try and prove their superiority...

[Live4TheWall]

And thats why he did it, because people like you who share those views.

[anarchy]

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/1130/1177007066509lc5.jpg
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/7585/1177005906021ko5.jpg

[Spector]

....He didnt do it because people like me...
He did it because he needed help He said it himself in the video
He also said he did it for his brothers and sisters who were fucked...
Yeah
Nice try

[.Auro.]

Originally posted by anarchy@Apr 19 2007, 01:35 PM
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/1130/1177007066509lc5.jpg
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/7585/1177005906021ko5.jpg
wtf

[Live4TheWall]

Originally posted by Spector@Apr 19 2007, 01:36 PM
....He didnt do it because people like me...
He did it because he needed help He said it himself in the video
He also said he did it for his brothers and sisters who were fucked...
Yeah
Nice try
Yeah but the people who share your view wouldnt help him. His teacher went and tried finding him help but no one would.




Is it really that hard for people to be open minded ? And dont take this all as Im defending him.

[aoime]

is there another channer in the house?

[Live4TheWall]

I've posted too much in this thread already so this is my last one.....









Whats the moral of the story? "Asians know how to kill, dont fuck with em" (unless their the sit at home, play gameboy and eat ramen all day kinda kids. Yeah.... Fuck You Cho Park, Your A Prick And Nobody Likes You)

[Spector]

Originally posted by Live4TheWall+Apr 19 2007, 01:46 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Live4TheWall @ Apr 19 2007, 01:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Spector@Apr 19 2007, 01:36 PM
....He didnt do it because people like me...
He did it because he needed help He said it himself in the video
He also said he did it for his brothers and sisters who were fucked...
Yeah
Nice try
Yeah but the people who share your view wouldnt help him. His teacher went and tried finding him help but no one would.




Is it really that hard for people to be open minded ? And dont take this all as Im defending him. [/b][/quote]
Ah....How do you know the people like me didn't At least TRY help him...Do you have proof?

[a_slave_to_creation]

good points live4thewall.
fuckin hilarious pics anarchy.

He did it because he couldnt handle the world...Insanity in my eye is people who are mentally inferior than the rest but use their violence to try and prove their superiority...

mentally inferior? fuck that man, he proved his value. 32 people at the hands of one man, that is superiority. those that can pull a trigger without batting an eye are dominant.

[AteskOne]

you just proved his point <_< . he was saying the guy was proving his superiority through violence...and you basically reitterated it right back to him while trying to disagree.

[aoime]

um....he was being completely sarcastic.

"those that can pull a trigger without batting an eye are dominant"

yeah right, huh.

[Slushi]

Originally posted by a_slave_to_creation@Apr 19 2007, 02:10 PM
good points live4thewall.
fuckin hilarious pics anarchy.

He did it because he couldnt handle the world...Insanity in my eye is people who are mentally inferior than the rest but use their violence to try and prove their superiority...

mentally inferior? fuck that man, he proved his value. 32 people at the hands of one man, that is superiority. those that can pull a trigger without batting an eye are dominant.
You're a douche.

[elcs]

...are you guys really trying to understand why he did this? people who arnt fucked up in the head really cant understand why somebody would do this. you guys arnt going to get it. everybody wants an explination or a reason. the fact that he was just a fucked up psycho isnt a good enough explination for people. they want to blame it on gun control or bullies or american culture. but what if there isnt a real reason? what if there is no other explination except this guy was a fucking lunatic? stop trying to psychoanalyze him. you'll never understand.

[Msfyt]

Originally posted by kersrone@Apr 19 2007, 01:16 PM
32 American Students > 62086 (min) Civilian Iraqi Casualties

Some guy goes apeshit and kills 32 people and everyone thinks its the most terrible thing ever, when much more terrible things are happening all the time, behind their backs - or worse yet - right before their eyes.
Fuck nationalistic pride. Fuck having a memorial for 32 people but ignorring 62k.
seriously this is a horrible comparision

comparing war to a mass murder is not even close to the same thing
thats like saying everyone killing the iraqis were mentally unsound
and all the casulaties were innocent
i doubt that is the case for the killings in iraq
let alone the fact that oil is involved

wow these kinda stupid statements really make me mad
perhaps you can compare your stupid statement to 911 but not university students dying

[Live4TheWall]

Originally posted by Spector@Apr 19 2007, 02:04 PM

Ah....How do you know the people like me didn't At least TRY help him...Do you have proof?
Insanity in my eye is people who are mentally inferior than the rest but use their violence to try and prove their superiority...







Well, you said that insane people use violence to feel superior ? Not ALL insane people are violent ? And because of the way you talk about him, your so against him. I dont think anyone who shares your train of thought would be willing to help him, shit your probably afraid of insane people. And NO I Dont have proof that people like YOU did try to help him, but you dont have any proof people like you tried either. So why are you bringing it up ? because I could ask you "Do you have any proof that you DID try to help ?" No. Neither of us know. The fact is that not enough people tried helping him when there was enough evidence to tell he NEEDED help in the first place. Probably because alot of them thought like you and said "Oh No Hes Crazy, Hes Inferior", and just ignored him.




Im done with this arguement, IF you still have beef with me, PM me or some shit and we'll battle. Otherwise shut up.

[whahappen?]

Originally posted by a_slave_to_creation@Apr 19 2007, 02:22 AM
it's not a naturally occurring thing to shoot 30 some odd people and then kill yourself, in nature a lion will not kill more than it needs to to survive unless it feels threatened or there is something wrong with it. In nature an animal will try to survive and kill so it can eat, the shooter was not killing to survive, he killed himself. Don't make it sound like it is a normal occurrence in nature. Killing 30 something people is sick and disgusting, don't justify his actions.

ever see a cat toy with a mouse? it could kill it any second, but it chooses to torture it. it does it because it has power over the weak. then when it does kill it, it might not even eat it, it just did it because. another example: primates do it all the time, generally larger species of gorillas will go and 'raid' other smaller primates territories and massacre them by crushing their skulls and ripping off their limbs, not becuase they were threatened but because they were there and vulnerable. man needs to kill to feel value. ever use a magnifying glass to burn ants? its the same thing, you feel like a god. so why then is it so strange to replace the ants with fellow man, would you not get the same pleasure? the scary thing is, i bet you would. we all would enjoy destroying something, crushing a life. its power, and that is what humans live for.
exactly you are incredibly smart
ive been thinking that kind of thing for awhile and just didnt know how to put it into words
but the kid was a fucked up dude
they said they heard him say one word in 2 years and saw him smile once, he stalked girls and took pics up their skirts, was obsessed with violence, and wrote plays and poem where the protagonist was often being raped there were so many warning signs but most people obviously just wanted to beleive it wouldnt happen because they thought it couldnt for one reason or another, he also was mentally unstable and had been proven to be so
i hate it when people who cant express themselves through words because they for some reason cant comprehend how resort to violence

[Msfyt]

Originally posted by elcs@Apr 19 2007, 02:28 PM
...are you guys really trying to understand why he did this? people who arnt fucked up in the head really cant understand why somebody would do this. you guys arnt going to get it. everybody wants an explination or a reason. the fact that he was just a fucked up psycho isnt enough for people. but really, there is no explination other than this guy was a fucking lunatic. stop trying to psychoanalyze him. you'll never understand.
i dont think all people who kill people are psycho
in a way i believe they are expressing their feelings in such a way that are willing to face the consqueneces of such actions
sure its not fair to the victims

anyone else agree with me?
cause im sure we have all thought about killing someone

perhaps we would be better to each other if more of us admitted to such feelings

ie. back in the day when people carried around pistols
do you think people were as rude and mean
i doubt it cause you knew that you could be the next one dead

it hard to debate this cause there are so many points to both sides
but when people are given the permission to be mean, rude, etc to others without severe consquences they will
example
would you mouth off a gangster with a gun? no
would you mouth off your mother/teacher/etc? yes
would you make fun a man whos been to jail for murder? no
would you make fun of the loser in your class? yes

[elcs]

Originally posted by Msfyt+Apr 19 2007, 02:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Msfyt @ Apr 19 2007, 02:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-elcs@Apr 19 2007, 02:28 PM
...are you guys really trying to understand why he did this? people who arnt fucked up in the head really cant understand why somebody would do this. you guys arnt going to get it. everybody wants an explination or a reason. the fact that he was just a fucked up psycho isnt enough for people. but really, there is no explination other than this guy was a fucking lunatic. stop trying to psychoanalyze him. you'll never understand.
i dont think all people who kill people are psycho
in a way i believe they are expressing their feelings in such a way that are willing to face the consqueneces of such actions
sure its not fair to the victims

anyone else agree with me?
cause im sure we have all thought about killing someone

perhaps we would be better to each other if more of us admitted to such feelings

ie. back in the day when people carried around pistols
do you think people were as rude and mean
i doubt it cause you knew that you could be the next one dead

it hard to debate this cause there are so many points to both sides
but when people are given the permission to be mean, rude, etc to others without severe consquences they will
example
would you mouth off a gangster with a gun? no
would you mouth off your mother/teacher/etc? yes
would you make fun a man whos been to jail for murder? no
would you make fun of the loser in your class? yes [/b][/quote]
i never said that all people who kill are psycho, now did i? i called a guy who randomly killed 32 people for no reason a psycho.

[Msfyt]

still why is he?
what about the man who sold him the gun, why isnt he psycho? he provides guns with the only critiria being a paper application
what about amercians, are they all psychos because they allow gun laws that provide access for the same unforunatne events happen more than once?
what about the school people that ignored his twisted writings, isnt apathy and passive nature pretty unatrural?
i could go on if you want

[kersrone]

Originally posted by Msfyt+Apr 19 2007, 02:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Msfyt @ Apr 19 2007, 02:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-kersrone@Apr 19 2007, 01:16 PM
32 American Students > 62086 (min) Civilian Iraqi Casualties

Some guy goes apeshit and kills 32 people and everyone thinks its the most terrible thing ever, when much more terrible things are happening all the time, behind their backs - or worse yet - right before their eyes.
Fuck nationalistic pride. Fuck having a memorial for 32 people but ignorring 62k.
seriously this is a horrible comparision

comparing war to a mass murder is not even close to the same thing
thats like saying everyone killing the iraqis were mentally unsound
and all the casulaties were innocent
i doubt that is the case for the killings in iraq
let alone the fact that oil is involved

wow these kinda stupid statements really make me mad
perhaps you can compare your stupid statement to 911 but not university students dying [/b][/quote]
I am simply trying to shed light on fact that nationalism causes the people of one nation to hold their fellow countrymen higher than people of other nationalities.

Also note that I gave an estimated death toll of civilians, not armed combatants. This means innocent people.

Whats the difference between the Virginia Tech gunman and a suicide bomber that also kills 32? Yes they most definately have different reasons for why they did what they did, but they both killed innocent people. But for some reason the 32 American students get a silly Graffiti Forum memorial, yet the 32 innocent Iraqi men women and children killed by the bomber are ignorred and forgotten.

These are not stupid statements, you just fail to see my point.

All people should be equal
If you fail to mourn the deaths of innocent civilians in other countries
I refuse to mourn the deaths of 32 innocent students in this country.





(This has gotten way more political than I wanted, but hopefully you understand what I'm trying to say.)

[elcs]

no. dont go on, because those are all terrible points.


those things wouldnt have meant shit unless this happened. he killed the people because he wanted to. nothing was going to stop him. he could have gotten a gun anywhere. he could have bought it off the street. gun control isnt the issue here either, its the dipshits who shoot people. the school did a lot once they knew this guys was fucked up. its not the schools fault AT ALL. if he didnt kill people at the school, he'd do it at a shopping mall or some other place. like i said in my initial post...dont try to explain it or place the blame somewhere else. its all his fault for being fucking crazy. end of story.

[whahappen?]

msfyt isnt even in the US...
plus we hear aboutbombing more in iraq and its just so frequent that people have grown numb to it, while school shootings...not so much and we can find out more about the killer satisfying peoples need for more information

[Kayone707]

unless it affects you directly you shouldnt care.
especially the media, with the fake typical media sorrow act just to bring in ratings

[Kryme]

im gunna have to agree with aoime

[dajam410]

The worst part about this event is how preventable it could have been, the school should have been locked down and payed attention after Cho's first attacks. Instead they waited TWO HOURS only to find out that he struck again, and committed the largest mass shooting in modern American history.

RIP V.T. students

[Kayone707]

Originally posted by dajam410@Apr 19 2007, 01:47 PM
The worst part about this event is how preventable it could have been, the school should have been locked down and payed attention after Cho's first attacks. Instead they waited TWO HOURS only to find out that he struck again, and committed the largest mass shooting in modern American history.

RIP V.T. students
that wasnt no highschool...
NO WAY it could have been locked down. you know how many roads lead up to the college? how many students,rooms are in there?
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3686/parkingmap05tn7.jpg

[revolt92]

Originally posted by Kayone707@Apr 19 2007, 03:05 PM
unless it affects you directly you shouldnt care.
especially the media, with the fake typical media sorrow act just to bring in ratings
You can still pay your respects, one person is bad enough but when 30 odd people do its terrible

[dajam410]

Originally posted by Kayone707+Apr 19 2007, 03:51 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Kayone707 @ Apr 19 2007, 03:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-dajam410@Apr 19 2007, 01:47 PM
The worst part about this event is how preventable it could have been, the school should have been locked down and payed attention after Cho's first attacks. Instead they waited TWO HOURS only to find out that he struck again, and committed the largest mass shooting in modern American history.

RIP V.T. students
that wasnt no highschool...
NO WAY it could have been locked down. you know how many roads lead up to the college? how many students,rooms are in there?
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3686/parkingmap05tn7.jpg [/b][/quote]
I stand corrected.

[1nOnly Baze]

oh this is still open. sheeeit.

[Tagger101]

Notice how its always foriegners that commit these bad things in our
country... Never the fucking rednecks everyones raggin on but the
foriengers... keep them out

[Proper-issh]

Originally posted by Live4TheWall@Apr 19 2007, 01:59 PM
I've posted too much in this thread already so this is my last one.....









Whats the moral of the story? "Asians know how to kill, dont fuck with em" (unless their the sit at home, play gameboy and eat ramen all day kinda kids. Yeah.... Fuck You Cho Park, Your A Prick And Nobody Likes You)
Grow up kid.

You don't sound tough.

[Live4TheWall]

What ?

[Ez3kieL]

Originally posted by Tagger101@Apr 19 2007, 04:58 PM
Notice how its always foriegners that commit these bad things in our
country... Never the fucking rednecks everyones raggin on but the
foriengers... keep them out
Ignorance is still alive! Good job on perpetuating it!

[dajam410]

Originally posted by Tagger101@Apr 19 2007, 04:58 PM
Notice how its always foriegners that commit these bad things in our
country... Never the fucking rednecks everyones raggin on but the
foriengers... keep them out
Wow. That's ignorant.

And by the way, both of the Columbine shooters were 100% American, despite one of them being Jewish. Oh wait, do you consider someone with different religious beliefs other than Christianity to be a foreigner?

[neuk]

You guys make really good points and fight like tuff guys, but no matter who wins this debate or "opinionated conversation" those 32 innocent students and the one disgruntled killer are going to stay dead and never come back. All of you are seriously wasting your time. Do you guys thing the dead would like knowing they died only for you guys arguing and fighting to the end; often leading to the very "solution" that killed them? And he got what he wanted, feeling of fear and power, and attention from the world and a hell-of-alot of it -- especially from you guys...


Just accept they're dead and there is nothing we or you or your well executed arguments can do about it, the signs were missed, the clues not accepted by the teach, not your fault and you can't bitch enough to make them think twice, live with it, be happy it wasn't you or your family.


If it did indeed involved your family, my sympathy.

[AIP]

RIP

they knew that the killer had mental problems 2 years ago but they didnt do anythin about it,thats a big mistake.

[neuk]

Originally posted by neuk@Apr 19 2007, 07:16 PM
You guys make really good points and fight like tuff guys, but no matter who wins this debate or "opinionated conversation" those 32 innocent students and the one disgruntled killer are going to stay dead and never come back. All of you are seriously wasting your time. Do you guys thing the dead would like knowing they died only for you guys arguing and fighting to the end; often leading to the very "solution" that killed them? And he got what he wanted, feeling of fear and power, and attention from the world and a hell-of-alot of it -- especially from you guys...


Just accept they're dead and there is nothing we or you or your well executed arguments can do about it, the signs were missed, the clues not accepted by the teach, not your fault and you can't bitch enough to make them think twice, live with it, be happy it wasn't you or your family.


If it did indeed involved your family, my sympathy.
fucka bottom of the page post

[whahappen?]

i honestly dont think anyone would care abotu an arguement on a graffiti forum

[Stim]

It's commonly American to assert your dominance over others, and I think it's safe to assume that Americans lust for more and more power every day. It's not uncommon for your average overly assertive idiot to pick on the weak around them, not even the weak physically or mentally... the socially weak. Apparently one human being can only take so much of that, so he snapped and shot a whole bunch of college students.

To me this is a classic example of straw that broke the camels back. It's not shocking to me at all that someone would be driven to such desperate acts after being ridiculed, excluded and made to feel ashamed of one self for the sake of OTHERS ENTERTAINMENT. People that do things like this are a waste of life either way.

Cho Seung-Hui's message was simple, no human being deserves to be treated like a piece of shit. Hopefully next time a douche bag college student decides to pick on the quiet kid, he'll consider that he might get his fucking face blown in...

[Spector]

Back to an earlier post I made...I said the insane who use violence try to feel superior by shooting up people....If you really think that going into a building WITH multiple clips is superior than your wrong...What he did was like hitting someone from the back...
Having a weapon doesnt make you superior...
Haaving a weapon and killing multiple people isnt superior
It means your a fuckin bitch.....Yeah I probably wouldve tried to help him...You dont know me...You think im afraid of some insane maniac?...
Fuck that...Seriously some of you get superiority is having a weapon and the other doesnt have a weapon this is not it...See
The world is brain washing you people..People nowadays have no sense of honor or anything..Cho said we couldve stopped him..He couldve stopped himself HE couldve got help For himself...
Now i dont care if you agree or not Im just saying and im using the right to say whatever i want
Im out
peace

[-ambient-]

Originally posted by Stim@Apr 19 2007, 08:06 PM
It's commonly American to assert your dominance over others, and I think it's safe to assume that Americans lust for more and more power every day. It's not uncommon for your average overly assertive idiot to pick on the weak around them, not even the weak physically or mentally... the socially weak. Apparently one human being can only take so much of that, so he snapped and shot a whole bunch of college students.

To me this is a classic example of straw that broke the camels back. It's not shocking to me at all that someone would be driven to such desperate acts after being ridiculed, excluded and made to feel ashamed of one self for the sake of OTHERS ENTERTAINMENT. People that do things like this are a waste of life either way.

Cho Seung-Hui's message was simple, no human being deserves to be treated like a piece of shit. Hopefully next time a douche bag college student decides to pick on the quiet kid, he'll consider that he might get his fucking face blown in...

Don't come out like the people that got shot deserved it. Who knows, maybe the first kid that got shot made fun of or excluded Cho. But that aside, to open fire on classrooms, at what seemed like random students and professors, is not even close to being justified.

Cho Seung-Hui was picked on (it seems like only in middle school, I didn't hear any proof about it for high school and college) and you might make the case that he was excluded, though many people seemed to try to get him to open up and he just didn't feel like communicating with them. College is full of douche bags and Cho seems like one of the biggest.

[Stim]

Originally posted by -ambient-+Apr 19 2007, 08:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (-ambient- @ Apr 19 2007, 08:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Stim@Apr 19 2007, 08:06 PM
It's commonly American to assert your dominance over others, and I think it's safe to assume that Americans lust for more and more power every day. It's not uncommon for your average overly assertive idiot to pick on the weak around them, not even the weak physically or mentally... the socially weak. Apparently one human being can only take so much of that, so he snapped and shot a whole bunch of college students.

To me this is a classic example of straw that broke the camels back. It's not shocking to me at all that someone would be driven to such desperate acts after being ridiculed, excluded and made to feel ashamed of one self for the sake of OTHERS ENTERTAINMENT. People that do things like this are a waste of life either way.

Cho Seung-Hui's message was simple, no human being deserves to be treated like a piece of shit. Hopefully next time a douche bag college student decides to pick on the quiet kid, he'll consider that he might get his fucking face blown in...

Don't come out like the people that got shot deserved it. Who knows, maybe the first kid that got shot made fun of or excluded Cho. But that aside, to open fire on classrooms, at what seemed like random students and professors, is not even close to being justified.

Cho Seung-Hui was picked on (it seems like only in middle school, I didn't hear any proof about it for high school and college) and you might make the case that he was excluded, though many people seemed to try to get him to open up and he just didn't feel like communicating with them. College is full of douche bags and Cho seems like one of the biggest. [/b][/quote]
1.) touche

2.) I've heard testimonies about Cho from other students, he was refered to as "the weird kid". That "nobody liked him". I'm going to assume that he was ridiculed, considering his video mentioned him being ridiculed and made to feel inferior on a day to day basis.

3.) Douche bag college students are a waste of life.

[tame345]

whahappen of course not dat is wut graff is about arguing about styles and shit so this is approiate


oh and kayone it was the worst in all american history, not juz da modern

[Stim]

How old are you?

[*MNR*]

for all those who died at Virgina Tech may they RIP.


--in my area, 3 schools have had bomb & gun threats. including my school..
2 kids have been arrested for it..personally i believe its all due to the VA Massacre..
these kids are taking advantage of the tragedy for no apparant reason..

idk but i just think its messed up..

[.A.K.4.7.]

Originally posted by Msfyt+Apr 19 2007, 02:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Msfyt @ Apr 19 2007, 02:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-elcs@Apr 19 2007, 02:28 PM
...are you guys really trying to understand why he did this? people who arnt fucked up in the head really cant understand why somebody would do this. you guys arnt going to get it. everybody wants an explination or a reason. the fact that he was just a fucked up psycho isnt enough for people. but really, there is no explination other than this guy was a fucking lunatic. stop trying to psychoanalyze him. you'll never understand.
i dont think all people who kill people are psycho
in a way i believe they are expressing their feelings in such a way that are willing to face the consqueneces of such actions
sure its not fair to the victims

anyone else agree with me?
cause im sure we have all thought about killing someone

perhaps we would be better to each other if more of us admitted to such feelings

ie. back in the day when people carried around pistols
do you think people were as rude and mean
i doubt it cause you knew that you could be the next one dead

it hard to debate this cause there are so many points to both sides
but when people are given the permission to be mean, rude, etc to others without severe consquences they will
example
would you mouth off a gangster with a gun? no
would you mouth off your mother/teacher/etc? yes
would you make fun a man whos been to jail for murder? no
would you make fun of the loser in your class? yes [/b][/quote]
Your pulling that card of, if everyone was armed there would be no violence.
Sillyness. You seriously think, that you wouldnt mouth off to an armed man, just because he is armed? Maybe so if you yourself are not armed. But if you are both armed, then you both posses that false feeling of security and power that comes from owning a weapon, and two people end up dead.

My friend's dad is a gun importer and he said that if the entire university were armed the death toll would have been much lower. Maybe so, but if there were no guns sold to these kids in the first place then uhhhhhh, there would have been no massacre.

But the thought of having no guns, or even making guns hard to buy is unheard of in america due to its loony gun laws and attitudes. In my country, it is a real mission to even be able to own a pistol. You seriously have to do alot, I wanted to buy a small .22 pistol but was put off by the intense methods that my country enforces before allowing guns to be sold. Now if I were a hateful and angry person, ready to shoot up my school, the fact that guns are so difficult to get puts me off using them, and actually makes me forget about guns at all as an option, as they virtually seem unattainable to me. Guns are so unusual here, and this makes those who hold them worrying, unless on a farm or such. Why can't it be like this in america?

So long as kids like this have such easy access to firearms, there will be massacres. I believe that this shooting will not be the last, by any means, so long as this gun attitude exists.

PS. There is just so much wrong with america, and for it to enforce its laws and way of lives on others is so hypocritical.

PPS. But of course, RIP to those that have died, it's about the worst thing that can happen to a person. But as someone said before, some people in the world deal with this every day, and they should not be ignored, this should be an oppertunity to really understand what these people are going through in countries like iraq every single day.

[.A.K.4.7.]

I reread your post msfyt and you are making sense sorry to come on strong. I stand by my points still though.

[GrEeN LaNtErN]

R.I.P :(

[Kayone707]

Originally posted by tame345@Apr 19 2007, 07:03 PM
whahappen of course not dat is wut graff is about arguing about styles and shit so this is approiate


oh and kayone it was the worst in all american history, not juz da modern
newsflash...
typing like this "dat waz tha worst in hiztory" aint cool...

and again. who cares. they died. it does not affect me. im sure someone where in russia some man just killed his wife. and you know what? i dont care.
everyone stop the fake sorrow, life goes on...

[i write]

the fake sorrow? when 32 people are murdered through no fault of their own, a normal person should feel a little bit worse when they hear the news. i know that comment was directed to us, as in the people with no affiliation to the shooting, but have a thought for the families who just lost their sons and daughters and if you dont feel slightly bad, i guess your just a cunt then.

[Kayone707]

"hey my son just died.. i'll go on BS and read all the posts.. that'll make me feel good"

if you really care. you'd contact the school and write to them. not post "RIP" on a graffiti forum

[neuk]

^^ agweed

did you know them?
did they know you?
did you care about them before this?
did they ever care about you?

noppidy nope nope - - nope!


furthermore, I'm sure Cnn.com has a nice little forum you could argue about this in, they care... well they get paid to care...

[vegimite on toast]

*the topic is about the shooting at VA.. not no iraq war
keep to the subject...

[Mekr4]

Originally posted by Sumoe@Apr 19 2007, 12:06 AM
a lion will not kill more than it needs to to survive unless it feels threatened or there is something wrong with it
was there not something wrong with him?

[Kayone707]

yea.. he was korean

[Live4TheWall]

hahahahaha. Well not all koreans are bad, my friend Dave Koh is pretty funny. But yeah I agree with Kay, unless you're directly effected why do you give a shit ? Saying that you should be sad because you hear it is a horrible idea. If you heard half the fucked up shit that happens/has happened in the world you would do nothing but be a depressed fucked all the time. So You Know What ? Go Ahead And Call Me A Cunt, Atleast Im Still Smiling :-D

[ReW]

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c131/LoverBoyProductions/lolol.jpg
its ok to laugh

[C3ZR ONE]

Originally posted by .A.K.4.7.+Apr 19 2007, 10:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (.A.K.4.7. @ Apr 19 2007, 10:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Msfyt@Apr 19 2007, 02:42 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-elcs@Apr 19 2007, 02:28 PM
...are you guys really trying to understand why he did this?Â* people who arnt fucked up in the head really cant understand why somebody would do this.Â* you guys arnt going to get it.Â* everybody wants an explination or a reason.Â* the fact that he was just a fucked up psycho isnt enough for people.Â* but really, there is no explination other than this guy was a fucking lunatic.Â* stop trying to psychoanalyze him.Â* you'll never understand.
i dont think all people who kill people are psycho
in a way i believe they are expressing their feelings in such a way that are willing to face the consqueneces of such actions
sure its not fair to the victims

anyone else agree with me?
cause im sure we have all thought about killing someone

perhaps we would be better to each other if more of us admitted to such feelings

ie. back in the day when people carried around pistols
do you think people were as rude and mean
i doubt it cause you knew that you could be the next one dead

it hard to debate this cause there are so many points to both sides
but when people are given the permission to be mean, rude, etc to others without severe consquences they will
example
would you mouth off a gangster with a gun? no
would you mouth off your mother/teacher/etc? yes
would you make fun a man whos been to jail for murder? no
would you make fun of the loser in your class? yes
Your pulling that card of, if everyone was armed there would be no violence.
Sillyness. You seriously think, that you wouldnt mouth off to an armed man, just because he is armed? Maybe so if you yourself are not armed. But if you are both armed, then you both posses that false feeling of security and power that comes from owning a weapon, and two people end up dead.

My friend's dad is a gun importer and he said that if the entire university were armed the death toll would have been much lower. Maybe so, but if there were no guns sold to these kids in the first place then uhhhhhh, there would have been no massacre.

But the thought of having no guns, or even making guns hard to buy is unheard of in america due to its loony gun laws and attitudes. In my country, it is a real mission to even be able to own a pistol. You seriously have to do alot, I wanted to buy a small .22 pistol but was put off by the intense methods that my country enforces before allowing guns to be sold. Now if I were a hateful and angry person, ready to shoot up my school, the fact that guns are so difficult to get puts me off using them, and actually makes me forget about guns at all as an option, as they virtually seem unattainable to me. Guns are so unusual here, and this makes those who hold them worrying, unless on a farm or such. Why can't it be like this in america?

So long as kids like this have such easy access to firearms, there will be massacres. I believe that this shooting will not be the last, by any means, so long as this gun attitude exists.

PS. There is just so much wrong with america, and for it to enforce its laws and way of lives on others is so hypocritical.

PPS. But of course, RIP to those that have died, it's about the worst thing that can happen to a person. But as someone said before, some people in the world deal with this every day, and they should not be ignored, this should be an oppertunity to really understand what these people are going through in countries like iraq every single day. [/b][/quote]
goddamn..... that's a good post........ I figured this thread would mostly be total crap, and it was, but at least a couple good posts came out of it.
I love how crazy people or (angry people, whatever) find something to blame everything on comepletely ignoring the fact that they're twats in the first place.

"ehh.eeh.eh....rich kids,this, rich kids that, they need to be taught a lesson, I'm a martyr."

shut the fuck up. Why did you go to a college in a capitolist governed society? ......sexually frustrated crazy guy could have spent less time posing in front of the camera with a flack jacket and a hammer and writing wack plays and manifestos and more time figuring out why he's such an angry douche in the first place, and I don't mean why he hates rich kids, I mean what made him biologically, such a cockwad......But whatever, I'm sure we all get your point now guy. My post is evidence of that. <_<

I think the biggest deterent to this sort of tragedy would be if these "martyrs" could telepathically read everybody elses mind and maybe then they'd be able to see that the only difference between them and "rich kids" is the rich kids aren't all butthurt and whiney. It would also be nice if they'd stop shooting themselves in the face after killing everybody for whiney reasons, so that they could see that the world didn't change and they're still cockwads who get pwned via internet, just like they did before they killed everybody....

[Chriis]

Wow... I'm about to get really flammed


Its sad, really sad.

But you gotta give the guy props, he fucken walked in and wasted 33 people

[Msfyt]

Originally posted by i write@Apr 20 2007, 12:29 AM
the fake sorrow? when 32 people are murdered through no fault of their own, a normal person should feel a little bit worse when they hear the news. i know that comment was directed to us, as in the people with no affiliation to the shooting, but have a thought for the families who just lost their sons and daughters and if you dont feel slightly bad, i guess your just a cunt then.
i have more sorrow for the person that felt so hopeless in the world that he resorted to killing people
guess im a cunt

[Eh Mang, I Can't Feel My Face.]

Originally posted by Chriis@Apr 20 2007, 07:27 AM
Wow... I'm about to get really flammed


Its sad, really sad.

But you gotta give the guy props, he fucken walked in and wasted 33 people
The fuck you mean give him props do you think its hard to walk in a university and kill 33 people? Fuck no manning up to how fucked this world is an dealing with your own shit an not hurting abnyone else is a hell of alot harder to do an obviously some people are too pussy so they gotta kill themselfs whitch is sad but better then killing innocent people.

ak47 your sayin you think it would be better if america had tough gun laws an made it hatrd to buy guns it would be better? How do you figure people will always sell guns on the blackmarket its basiccally impossible to make guns hard to get, especially in the usa.

[Eh Mang, I Can't Feel My Face.]

Originally posted by ReW@Apr 20 2007, 02:35 AM
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c131/LoverBoyProductions/lolol.jpg
its ok to laugh
LOL

[Muddy]

Hi. I'm new, but I've been lurking for a bit.

While I certainly agree that the ease with which guns are purchased in the USA is foolish, I don't think that it should be the focus for discussion as a result of this horrific massacre. Focusing on America's gun laws really sidesteps the issue and to be honest, somewhat belittles the entire thing. We should be more concerned with why this happened, what was wrong with this person, and the answer is certainly not 'because guns are easy to get'.

Yes, it probably made his job easier, but that shouldn't be the main issue. There are alternatives to guns that can kill 33 people just as easily, bombs and poison for example. I can see why using a gun would be the preferred method for this type of killing, it's certainly better for getting attention- which is probably what this was about. You can get every fucker who laughed at you on his knees and begging, face to face. Still, I don't think denying guns to someone would stop them from commiting a mass homocide like this if they really wanted.

Let's be more concerned with what it takes to drive a person to the point where he executes 33 people, including himself, not how he does it.

My condolences to the victims.

[i eat pringles]

Originally posted by Kayone707+Apr 20 2007, 12:03 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Kayone707 @ Apr 20 2007, 12:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-tame345@Apr 19 2007, 07:03 PM
whahappen of course not dat is wut graff is about arguing about styles and shit so this is approiate


oh and kayone it was the worst in all american history, not juz da modern
newsflash...
typing like this "dat waz tha worst in hiztory" aint cool...

and again. who cares. they died. it does not affect me. im sure someone where in russia some man just killed his wife. and you know what? i dont care.
everyone stop the fake sorrow, life goes on... [/b][/quote]
Amen.

[revolt92]

I still feel sorry for their family's, maybe thats because im nice like that

[tame345]

yea aight its just part of the life cycle in humans fuck fake sorrow unless it was freinds/family etc. just dont give a fuck

[whahappen?]

Originally posted by tame345@Apr 19 2007, 09:03 PM
whahappen of course not dat is wut graff is about arguing about styles and shit so this is approiate


oh and kayone it was the worst in all american history, not juz da modern
wtf are you saying??? :blink:

[BohemianBastard]

Originally posted by Muddy@Apr 20 2007, 03:54 PM
Hi. I'm new, but I've been lurking for a bit.

While I certainly agree that the ease with which guns are purchased in the USA is foolish, I don't think that it should be the focus for discussion as a result of this horrific massacre. Focusing on America's gun laws really sidesteps the issue and to be honest, somewhat belittles the entire thing. We should be more concerned with why this happened, what was wrong with this person, and the answer is certainly not 'because guns are easy to get'.

Yes, it probably made his job easier, but that shouldn't be the main issue. There are alternatives to guns that can kill 33 people just as easily, bombs and poison for example. I can see why using a gun would be the preferred method for this type of killing, it's certainly better for getting attention- which is probably what this was about. You can get every fucker who laughed at you on his knees and begging, face to face. Still, I don't think denying guns to someone would stop them from commiting a mass homocide like this if they really wanted.

Let's be more concerned with what it takes to drive a person to the point where he executes 33 people, including himself, not how he does it.

My condolences to the victims.
!!!

[revolt92]

Originally posted by whahappen?+Apr 20 2007, 02:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (whahappen? @ Apr 20 2007, 02:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-tame345@Apr 19 2007, 09:03 PM
whahappen of course not dat is wut graff is about arguing about styles and shit so this is approiate


oh and kayone it was the worst in all american history, not juz da modern
wtf are you saying??? :blink: [/b][/quote]
Worst in history? have you not heard of the holocaust?

[TalibKweli]

Long time i havent been on these forums
REST IN PEACE to all those who lost their lives in the V.Tech shootings

may your souls fly to heaven where you can lie in eternal peace, away from everyday stress and havoc, chaos and terror


Victims Of The Shooting (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=9619385)

[Kayone707]

Originally posted by revolt92+Apr 20 2007, 03:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (revolt92 @ Apr 20 2007, 03:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by whahappen?@Apr 20 2007, 02:43 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-tame345@Apr 19 2007, 09:03 PM
whahappen of course not dat is wut graff is about arguing about styles and shit so this is approiate


oh and kayone it was the worst in all american history, not juz da modern
wtf are you saying??? :blink:
Worst in history? have you not heard of the holocaust? [/b][/quote]
AMERICAN HISTORY.....

read the whole post

[AoAssis]

My heart goes out to all of the famlies and friends.

[jez]

Did anyone think that the school is semi at fault to blame for this?
i mean shutting the school down for only two hours after the first two people were killed, and then re opening it... Especially after they had two bomb threats the day before & Not even had it been a year since the first shooting on the V tech campus...this shit could of been played out where there were not so many casualties..


and its a fucking shame this world can get so crazy for a person to the point where they believe they can kill innocent people


RIP those killed...

[role]

no disrespect to the victims for real, gettin shot is no joke
but people become victims every hour, every minute, every country on earth.
just because a handful were in the same place at the same time makes it more important than every other death in america, or the world?
a single death is a tragedy a million deaths is a statistic though i guess
i just think it's wrong that the media chooses whose deaths are important
gang violence and poverty get swept under the rug while a college shooting is heard nation wide, it seems naive to think that this kind of event is monumental, just my opinion though

a lot of people are talkin about gun laws in relation to this but think of it this way
if the stores stop selling spray paint there will still be graffiti, i'd figure it'd be the same deal with guns

fuck it though
kill walls, trains and all the spots
not people

[.A.K.4.7.]

Originally posted by Eh Mang, I Can't Feel My Fac+Apr 20 2007, 08:29 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Eh Mang, I Can't Feel My Fac @ Apr 20 2007, 08:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Chriis@Apr 20 2007, 07:27 AM
Wow... I'm about to get really flammed


Its sad, really sad.

But you gotta give the guy props, he fucken walked in and wasted 33 people
The fuck you mean give him props do you think its hard to walk in a university and kill 33 people? Fuck no manning up to how fucked this world is an dealing with your own shit an not hurting abnyone else is a hell of alot harder to do an obviously some people are too pussy so they gotta kill themselfs whitch is sad but better then killing innocent people.

ak47 your sayin you think it would be better if america had tough gun laws an made it hatrd to buy guns it would be better? How do you figure people will always sell guns on the blackmarket its basiccally impossible to make guns hard to get, especially in the usa. [/b][/quote]
Black market or not, it is next to impossible for me to get my hands on any decent hand gun worth mentioning. Besides, the law changes come first, of course they are not going to make any real difference at first, but it will eventually change the real issue in america, which is the attitudes towards deadly weapons you guys got going on. You are saying, oh well, we're stuck in this gun loving state of mind, changing it won't do any good, its always going to be like this. its sad really and stupid.

[JETc17]

racial prejudice to ensue

[a_slave_to_creation]

eh fuck gun laws, its always gunna be easy to pick up arms. u can grab a tech9 of the net for under a grand and all u have to do is produce a copy of an id..... photoshop? ass long as there is a will to get weaponry, there will be a way to do it. ive seen kids under ten that stay strapped now days, so obviously gun laws dont do shit.

oh and btw.... fuck the NRA, bunch of conservative pansies.

[Chie]

a lot of anger is revolving around this thread

[Tri1]

Man my thoughts go out to the family and friends of all those that died and all those involved. I even feel sorry for Cho. He needed help but he didnt get. I don't think his actions were right but i can feel nothing but pity for him. R.I.P all that died.

[Stim]

Originally posted by i write@Apr 20 2007, 12:29 AM
the fake sorrow? when 32 people are murdered through no fault of their own, a normal person should feel a little bit worse when they hear the news. i know that comment was directed to us, as in the people with no affiliation to the shooting, but have a thought for the families who just lost their sons and daughters and if you dont feel slightly bad, i guess your just a cunt then.
It's also commonly American to get to much into others buisness with your greivances to let everyone know how great you are, and how much you "care". Even if it's at the expense of their own personal privacy. I wouldn't feel to great if a bunch of douchebags kept calling me or sending me emails with topics like "sorry your son is dead".

Just admit you don't care, your just shocked. I know your just shocked, because at the end of the day your not going to virginia tech to light a memorial in the memory of those killed, your not going to donate money to any of the victims families or the schoo, and your sure as shit not going to remember everyone who died in that shooting even a week or two from now.

[tame345]

i agree wit u chie even tho this is a memorial thread


all ur hate is like pissing on thier graves show some fuckin respect

[writer45]

this shit is fuckin crazy watch it
http://youtube.com/watch?v=pEYHb3sU-h8

but i feel bad for all those people and their families
r.i.p.

[neuk]

Originally posted by Kayone707+Apr 20 2007, 08:06 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Kayone707 @ Apr 20 2007, 08:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by revolt92@Apr 20 2007, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by whahappen?@Apr 20 2007, 02:43 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-tame345@Apr 19 2007, 09:03 PM
whahappen of course not dat is wut graff is about arguing about styles and shit so this is approiate


oh and kayone it was the worst in all american history, not juz da modern
wtf are you saying??? :blink:
Worst in history? have you not heard of the holocaust?
AMERICAN HISTORY.....

read the whole post [/b][/quote]
Actually it is the worst in history, unless I'm mistaken the Holocaust was taken out by soldiers which is plural meaning not one person.


He single handedly killed 32 people.

Worst in History, period.

[*MNR*]

actually im pretty sure there has been murders that have killed more then 37 people..

so technically its not the worst in history..

but i still feel bad for all those who died in VA

[TalibKweli]

Originally posted by *MNR*@Apr 22 2007, 01:45 AM
actually im pretty sure there has been murders that have killed more then 37 people..

so technically its not the worst in history..

kinda contradicting your signature there arent ya

[scr3w]

Originally posted by neuk+Apr 21 2007, 08:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (neuk @ Apr 21 2007, 08:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Kayone707@Apr 20 2007, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by revolt92@Apr 20 2007, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by whahappen?@Apr 20 2007, 02:43 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-tame345@Apr 19 2007, 09:03 PM
whahappen of course not dat is wut graff is about arguing about styles and shit so this is approiate


oh and kayone it was the worst in all american history, not juz da modern
wtf are you saying??? :blink:
Worst in history? have you not heard of the holocaust?
AMERICAN HISTORY.....

read the whole post
Actually it is the worst in history, unless I'm mistaken the Holocaust was taken out by soldiers which is plural meaning not one person.


He single handedly killed 32 people.

Worst in History, period. [/b][/quote]
it's the worst school shooting in america in history you douches, stop arguing about head counts and just say r.i.p. and leave.

[pez ss]

vt just shows how fucked up the states really is. RIP to all thous that died.

[Short Ethiopian Kid]

damn foreigners....
come to this country on a student visa and kill a bunch of innocent people for nothing ............

[Muddy]

Originally posted by Short Ethiopian Kid@Apr 23 2007, 10:05 PM
damn foreigners....
come to this country on a student visa and kill a bunch of innocent people for nothing ............

Yes, damn foreigners. Korea must have sent him as a secret agent. They probably sent Charles Manson too and that guy who climbed a clocktower with a rifle.

[GEE-DOT-ONE]

rip to all those that died
the ones injured are in my prayers


now after saying that

doesnt anyone else find that kid retarded? not just crazy i dont give a shit about that.... but if youve ever read his plays there stupid... HE WAS AN ENGLISH MAJOR.... they were written like a 4th grader.... like im not even talkin about what its about... jus simply the kids gotta be borderline retarded... they need to find out how the fuck he got into college like that... unless he did good work... someone correct me if he did something above an elementry school writing level..
o and i lost it when i saw those pictures... those ones where he has the guns and knifes are fucked up... so is the random hammer one... like what the hell is he gonna do with a hammer as hes rampaging the school? its not practical....

sorry for those who didnt wanna see my rant... and if theres somewhere else talkin about this kid i should put this in let me know....

again all the vt people are in my prayers

[Slushi]

Guess what?
None of you are high thinkers.
You're all douchecunts.
Show some respect for the people that died and their families.
He WAS crazy. You don't understand. Deal with it.

Rest IN POWER. all of the victims.

[MooMooTheMoose]

I knew 2 of the people killed..

My thoughts go out to all the families of those dead, and Cho' family too. He did it, not them. People shouldn't get on their nuts. Unless there's some shit I don't know.

RIP

[Kayone707]

Originally posted by neuk+Apr 21 2007, 06:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (neuk @ Apr 21 2007, 06:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Kayone707@Apr 20 2007, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by revolt92@Apr 20 2007, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by whahappen?@Apr 20 2007, 02:43 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-tame345@Apr 19 2007, 09:03 PM
whahappen of course not dat is wut graff is about arguing about styles and shit so this is approiate


oh and kayone it was the worst in all american history, not juz da modern
wtf are you saying??? :blink:
Worst in history? have you not heard of the holocaust?
AMERICAN HISTORY.....

read the whole post
Actually it is the worst in history, unless I'm mistaken the Holocaust was taken out by soldiers which is plural meaning not one person.


He single handedly killed 32 people.

Worst in History, period. [/b][/quote]
learn your history if your gonna try being a smart ass...
Lyudmila M. Pavlichenko, a Female was a soviet sniper in W.W.II. She had 309 confirmed KILLS. some male snipers even got into the 500 range...

so next time you wanna be a smart ass just dont.

[Sumoe]

Kay the Professor. :)

again, R.I.P. to this tragic event.

[BohemianBastard]

can someone link me to the plays?

[slEEt]

Originally posted by Kayone707+Apr 24 2007, 02:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Kayone707 @ Apr 24 2007, 02:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by neuk@Apr 21 2007, 06:20 PM
Originally posted by Kayone707@Apr 20 2007, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by revolt92@Apr 20 2007, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by whahappen?@Apr 20 2007, 02:43 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-tame345@Apr 19 2007, 09:03 PM
whahappen of course not dat is wut graff is about arguing about styles and shit so this is approiate


oh and kayone it was the worst in all american history, not juz da modern
wtf are you saying??? :blink:
Worst in history? have you not heard of the holocaust?
AMERICAN HISTORY.....

read the whole post
Actually it is the worst in history, unless I'm mistaken the Holocaust was taken out by soldiers which is plural meaning not one person.


He single handedly killed 32 people.

Worst in History, period.
learn your history if your gonna try being a smart ass...
Lyudmila M. Pavlichenko, a Female was a soviet sniper in W.W.II. She had 309 confirmed KILLS. some male snipers even got into the 500 range...

so next time you wanna be a smart ass just dont. [/b][/quote]
I don't think i'd compare military soldiers kill counts to this incident. Those are during times of war where killing is expected.

I'm sure people have single handedly killed more people, but as far as a school shooting I think it's considered the worst so far.

[clockwork]

Yeah the holocaust was perty bad.

Dumbasses still think it didnt happen.

VA tech was pussy.
Cause leet people who plan a massacre go out like a king and let the SWAT kill them.

(It sucks that he killed himself and went out a fag. Shoulda kept the gay porn away from the media. What a way to go out, a fag pussy.)

lol