Hero's

[vegimite on toast]

With the recent olympic games with all the hombres competeing in races and winning them. Then the press [ and many people for that matter] start throwing around the term hero e.g " That american who one the track and feild he is an american hero." now that just sickens me they arn't hero's they won a friken race for gods sake. I hate it when the term hero gets used to explian sports stars its just stupid. I believe that the men and women who were taken into war and died for you country are the hero's cause im certain i would break my leg diliberatly so i can't get conscripted cause im a sissy and i don't wanna go too war. What do you guys think? Do you think that the term hero gets used to often when it comes to sports or do you think that the sports stars are heros? Please voice your opinion.

[the_uniBOMBER]

What pissed me off was that one girl who went to Afghanistan, and got captured, and then was rescued, and she was considered a hero. For what? Surviving? I do that every day and no one gives me parades. I say the people who rescued her should be called hero's but they were given only a fraction of the fame she received.

[kosmo1ne]

sports stars arent heros...unless they want to do it and arent in it for the money...most loved what they do when they are a kid but i guarentee if they got offered a normal salary most wouldnt do what they do...not a lot of heros in my opinion

[vegimite on toast]

/\/\/\

This is exactly the shit im talking about like she went on 60 mins after wards i think and was all crying im mean god how is she a hero

[sure_1]

heroes in my mind are people like single mothers with 4 children who work 3 jobs late at night and raise kids

and kids who are diagnosed with cancer when they are 3 and still make other people smile and smile themseves.

or people like eddie akiua (sp) who without hesitation left a sinking ship full of his friends to try to find help and was never seen again.

they are heroes in my mind.

and btw, vegimite on toast, im guessin u are from Oz, where abouts ?

[vegimite on toast]

thats what i mean kosmo1one take david beckham for example he is so extremely over paid for playing soccer it is unbellieve able and i bet if he was offered 25 grand a year [which is quite genrous i think for playing soccer] i think he would be outraged.

[vegimite on toast]

im from sydney sure 1

[SLY]

ur an idiot buddy look at european hockey and shit u got guys there who are 30 and still play and they make liek 80 k a year and its hard work also whne ur the best at somehting u despervce the money. they all deserve what they make. and im sick of ppl being liek docotrs shoudl get paid more bull shti docotrs arent heros and htey get paid extremly well and theres more pressure on player then docotors and there are a lot fo heros who play sports and a lot of ppl who are called hero who r fire fighters or anything arent so any ppl arent heros but to bad. also jsut becuz u risk ur life so save sum1 doesnt make u a hero u get paid to do it or maybe ur jsut stupid or u ahev other reasons to do it a lto of ppl join the army becuz they wanna see hwo it to kill someone or w.e

[kosmo1ne]

thats how it is tho

[vegimite on toast]

sly they play sport they were good at it what about a writer who is good at writting i dont see them being called hero's

when i say writer i mean like an author

[SLY]

okay well look how much money ppl make off of beckham advertisers and everythign and it isnt jsut playing a game u retards. they r the best of the best and have worked long and hard n they r constantly working evne when they rnt playing like the nhlers they r still working out and training even though a lot of them think they wont play this yr

[vegimite on toast]

And that makes them hero's they have done nothing special they have scored a goal man

[SLY]

becuz writers do illegal shit and ppl think 50 cent and shit and those guys are heros or w.e and im sure sum ppl think cope2 is a hero i dotn get his name still there is no cope1 oh well and he makes a lot of money. but it isnt jsut playing a game and look at tie domi id u live in t.o he is constantly going to chairity event and seeing sick kids for a logn time even of cmaera and he has a box at the game where he lets t.o sick kids go to the game and have fun and a lot of ppl dont no about it. and there are docotors who are assholes and are mediocer

[SLY]

they give ppl hope they entertain n they d a bunch of shit. but w.e cops arent heros docotrs arent heros soldiers arent heros almsot no1 is

[vegimite on toast]

nah sorry man i was talking about writers as in authors they dont get called heros like sports stars and authors get a hell of a lott less money then sports people [famous] genereally

[esaem]

I haven't even seen the olympics...Sports = gay unless I'm playing them...Why would I want to watch someone else playing a game...

HAHA AFGHANISTAN HAS IKEA

[vegimite on toast]

Boy wasn't that one of the most enchanting, quality rich replys i have ever seen.

[SLY]

Originally posted by vegimite on toast@Sep 4 2004, 12:42 AM
nah sorry man i was talking about writers as in authors they dont get called heros like sports stars and authors get a hell of a lott less money then sports people [famous] genereally
The best of the best authors get paid hella good so shut up its not like any1 can play at that level. and also those fag olympians make chump change forget bout olympic ppl lets stick to main sports... but the shitty hockey players make liek 100 k a yr in europe and they can only play for liek 8 yrs b4 they suck to much and thats nto grat pay but authors get paid well teh good ones... and soem authors do get caleld heros but who cares there are so many authors with books published it doesnt take much skill. but look at j.k rowelling shes a billionaire. and htose books are shit. and what do authors do that is heroic? not much.

[esaem]

Boy wasn't that one of the most enchanting, quality rich replys i have ever seen.

THANKS I LOVE YOU TOO.... :angry:

[vegimite on toast]

ANd what do sports starts do ? not much also

[SLY]

Originally posted by vegimite on toast@Sep 4 2004, 12:58 AM
ANd what do sports starts do ? not much also
sports stars do a lot mroe then authors. and if u think the author of arthur or w.e is a hero because it made ur illiterate brother learn to read it doesnt...

[esaem]

Where the hell did authors come from?

There's no such thing as heroes...

'sept maybe like somethin' good

[vegimite on toast]

Did i say childrens books hardly and what have sports stars done to help humanity in the past 100 years if not anything.

[kosmo1ne]

hi...my name is superman...and im a superhero...and im addicted to coke....you say "Hi Superman"...then i say Goodbye

[vegimite on toast]

And authors was an example. Another being nurses and so fourth

[SLY]

ur jsut lookign what they contribute well lets see what albert einstein contributed oh the A BOMB HES A HERO! but sports stars contribute hope money time and effort to so muhc shit on and off the ice or field or w.e the fuck they do nbot all of them but some of them authors od nothing at all

[vegimite on toast]

And the thing about the authors was that they do just as much if not more than sports stars and yet they arn't called hero's and brandished with extreme salarys [some exceptions]

[SLY]

Originally posted by vegimite on toast@Sep 4 2004, 01:04 AM
And authors was an example. Another being nurses and so fourth
nurses arent heros theyve kileld so many ppl by fuckign up theyve injured os many a lot of htem have doen evil things. and a lot of them jsut see it as being work. my aunt is a nurse and shes so dumb and she cant help u out in anythign u need to tell her what to do...

[vegimite on toast]

And of course there is gonna be different opinions hence me making this topic in the first place.

[esaem]

Didn't Lance Armstrong get a fuckload of Cancer charity money from those bracelets? If there was anyone in the world I wouldn't wanna fist fight with It'd be him..He'd probly kill me with his legs. Possibly car

[SLY]

AUTHORS DONT DO A SINGLE DAMN THING! SOME OF THEM have done things but it has nothign to do wiht them being an author... and they make good salaries and sports stars dont make amazing money fo r alogn time and they deserve it. and hero dont deserve money i dont care if u saved a kid form walking infornt of a subway u dont deserve money

[vegimite on toast]

And are sports stars are the intillectual elite, sly?

[kosmo1ne]

i think that lance armstrong relys on endurance more than leg strentgh...but thats jus my opininion...

[SLY]

Originally posted by vegimite on toast@Sep 4 2004, 01:09 AM
And of course there is gonna be different opinions hence me making this topic in the first place.
no there are going to be stupid people like you not stupid opinions. but if u enetertain and make other people money and ur the best then u should make good money if ur a hero and u dotn do anythign to naythign to make money through advertising or ticket sales u dont deserve money simple as that

[kosmo1ne]

this thread grew really fast for like four people posting in it

[SLY]

Originally posted by vegimite on toast@Sep 4 2004, 01:11 AM
And are sports stars are the intillectual elite, sly?
actually al ot of them are and so what a lot of "heros" are retards liek a person who jumps into a lake to save someone when they dont know how to swim themselves... look at that guy bertuzzi fucked up him and his 2 brothers went to harvard and being smart has ntohgint to do wiht beingf a hero ur a fucking retard

[vegimite on toast]

then take away the money from the sports stars they would no longer play now are they the goodsports mans and women alot of people look up to as hero's now?

[vegimite on toast]

your getting alittle fired up about something that was hardly meant to make people angry.

[SLY]

OMG THEY NEED MONEY they arent regualr jobs u rnt guarenteed to work u cna get cut easily for naythign and its not liek u can play until ur 50 and u dont get a pension al the time and its hard work so a lot of them wont put in all the time for shit pay u fuckign moron would a docotor who work 70 hours a week work for 40 k a yr no... and who cares a lot of teachers wouldnt teach if u took away their summes and there pay. and makign a lot of money has nothign to do wiht being a hero

[esaem]

I keep looking at the girl in his signature, I'm not really reading the posts, teehee.

[SLY]

im sick of this shit though from morons saying sports stars odnt deserve the money they do and no1 is forcing owners to pay them that much. and also u dont knwo hwo mcuh work goes into playing n the nhl or anything

[esaem]

'Tis alot of work, but a long time ago Pro Players were considered poor, now they're some of the richest people in the world.

[vegimite on toast]

well money isant the point of this topic they shouldn't earn outrageous amounts of money really infact they shoud earn a SPORTSPERSON salary they dont do shit the entertain people thats nothing they fucking score a goal they dont deserve millions of dollars

[vegimite on toast]

And i dont denie them of money they do desever money but not millions take the millions aways and leave them with an average salaray then the poor little sports stars are crying because they have to sell the sports cars and million dollar houses just to live

[esaem]

Yeah there should be a country

[vegimite on toast]

I said once and ill say it again Wow wasn't that one of the most enchanting, quality rich quotes i have every heard.

[esaem]

THANKS I LOVE YOU TOO....:angry:

[SLY]

Originally posted by esaem@Sep 4 2004, 01:27 AM
'Tis alot of work, but a long time ago Pro Players were considered poor, now they're some of the richest people in the world.
they didnt work as hard buddy. and u dont knwo shit toast if they dont entertain then why do ppl pay 225 for one ticket to see them. why do companies pay milliosn of dollars to advertise if it isnt seen by enuff people? and ur such an idiot they cant work for 40 yrs proffesionally in the nhl or anythign and like i siad a lot of them make 100 k in european leagues and even if they all made liek 40 grand a yr that wouldnt stop the prices of the tickets or anything and there is more work in being in the nhl and being the best then becoming a nurse or doctor. and they do deserve their money ur an idiot when ur the best of the best u get good money look at the best heart surgen they make like 1 -2 mill a yr and they can continue to work making that much money for 20 yrs and they have insurance for their hands if they get arthritus or w.e so shut up.

[vegimite on toast]

thats retort was a waste i didnt say they didn't entertain i said they are entertainers theres a difference.

[vegimite on toast]

And sly you have to get this through your head. I don't think they should earn that much money but they still will so i dont care but i dont think they are hero's. I am not talking about whether they shoudl earn alot of money of not.

[SLY]

an di siad b4 not all of them are heros and i dont care if they are assholes or arent that wont change waht i think about them i dont think of any1 as a hero cuz i dont care im jut saying they deserve the money and they they r heros to sum dumb kid who has cancer or w.e and some of them are legitmate heros

[Skore_One]

im sure you wouldnt be saying that if adolf won the war and all of your family was killed and shit like that sports players arent heros even if they arent ass holes they dont save peoples lives and all the charity is just more publicity and the more famous you are the more money you make and how long do doctors go to school and practice just as long as people who play sports they have to have good grades all through school to go to university for 10 years pay about 100,000 dollars too you say that the sports guy lets sick kids sit in the box the doctors help save the kids that are in the box fuck sports

[esaem]

what the fuck is your signature SLY

[vegimite on toast]

they may be thought of as heros but they arn't really heros

does and one else have any opinions beisdes SLY and i arguing with the occasional off the topic quote from esaem

[SLY]

Originally posted by Skore_One@Sep 4 2004, 01:50 AM
im sure you wouldnt be saying that if adolf won the war and all of your family was killed and shit like that sports players arent heros even if they arent ass holes they dont save peoples lives and all the charity is just more publicity and the more famous you are the more money you make and how long do doctors go to school and practice just as long as people who play sports they have to have good grades all through school to go to university for 10 years pay about 100,000 dollars too you say that the sports guy lets sick kids sit in the box the doctors help save the kids that are in the box fuck sports
wrong my family wouldnt be kileld cuz my family was nazi's geez. and look at sports players look they start training ridiulously hard from when they are 10 and ocntinue until they retire if they even make it at all. if ur a doctor u can fall back on other shit cuz u have an education if ur a hockey plaeyr and u cant make it in hockey how r u gunna use those skill u developed and u dont know how much it costs a yr to play AAA hockey it costs 10 000 so if you play AAA for 4 or 5 yrs that 50 grand right there but hen u have other things liek camps they cost 1200 for one week and u'll go to like 20 of those and liek is aid if u dont make all that money is down the drain if u dont make it as a doctor so what ur grades will still take u palces and the reaosn med shcool is so much is that ur guarenteed good money as a doctor... u arent guarenteed as player also it doesnt matter id ur a doctor and u screw up and kill a few patients but it does if ur a player look at bertuzzi he might be gone for ever even though hes extremly talented. but eyah it isnt 10 yrs of university if they werent docotrs theyd still go to university for at least 4 of not 5 yrs so its onyl an addiontal 4 or 5. and if u go to the nhl through college u need good grades becuz the best school in hockey have high academics university of michigan u need to b smart, harvard etc

[SLY]

Originally posted by esaem@Sep 4 2004, 01:51 AM
what the fuck is your signature SLY
winnipeg blue bombers fan

[vegimite on toast]

sly your an idiot the sports people train cause they wanna do the sport and they are all like "i just do it cause i love it " yet they still get paid alot of money does this make them heros ? do you think that fucking soliders get paid ?

[SLY]

soldiers get paid well and also sports ppl they dotn do it cuz they love it. the money is a part of it. and htey get paid well ebczu they make a lot of people a lot of money so deal with it

[vegimite on toast]

i do i am happy for them they make alot of money but they arn't heros

[Incite]

Originally posted by SLY@Sep 4 2004, 12:11 AM
AUTHORS DONT DO A SINGLE DAMN THING! SOME OF THEM have done things but it has nothign to do wiht them being an author... and they make good salaries and sports stars dont make amazing money fo r alogn time and they deserve it. and hero dont deserve money i dont care if u saved a kid form walking infornt of a subway u dont deserve money
seriously, what the fuck are you talkin about? sport stars deserve millions of dollars just for playin a game?

[vegimite on toast]

and what about conscripts for world war 2 and 1 ? i don't think they got paid.

[sure_1]

hey vegie where bouts in sydney? PM me if u dont wanna say...id like to hook up if we are close

[A.S.]

EARLIER vegimite on toast MENTIONED A FEMALE WHO GOT CAPTURED IN AFGANISTAN..YEAH THAT LIL BITCH IS JESSICA LYNCH..IM IN THE ARMY AND LET ME TELL YOU EVERYONE HATES HER..SHE SUCH A LIAR.SHE SAID SHE SHOT SOME OF THEM ..ALL SHE DID WAS GET CAPTURED AND THEY FUKKED HER IN HER ASS..THEN SPECIAL FORCES WENT AND SAVED HER ..SHE GOT ALL THE CREDIT AND ALL THE FAME..BUT THE SPECIAL FORCES WAS PUSHED ASIDE..THE MEDIA JUST WANTED A LIL BLONDE HAIRED BLUE EYED CHICK TO BE THE POSTER CHILD FOR THAT AMBUSH..REMEMBER THERE WAS 4 OTHER PEOPLE THAT GOT CAPTURED TO 3 GUYS AND A FAT BLACK CHICK..THEY DIDNT GET HARMED BECAUSE THEY FOUGHT BACK BUT JESSICA LYNCH WAS SUCKIN AND FUCKIN THEM SO SHE WONT GET HURT..FUKKIN BITCH..SHE NO HERO..AQUA MAN IS A HERO!! :angry:

[esaem]

she was ugly though...well I guess the Iraqis dont care they dont got much but a hairy sheet to fuck

[DjTerrestrialConcept]

Originally posted by SLY@Sep 4 2004, 12:35 AM
ur an idiot buddy look at european hockey and shit u got guys there who are 30 and still play and they make liek 80 k a year and its hard work also whne ur the best at somehting u despervce the money. they all deserve what they make. and im sick of ppl being liek docotrs shoudl get paid more bull shti docotrs arent heros and htey get paid extremly well and theres more pressure on player then docotors and there are a lot fo heros who play sports and a lot of ppl who are called hero who r fire fighters or anything arent so any ppl arent heros but to bad. also jsut becuz u risk ur life so save sum1 doesnt make u a hero u get paid to do it or maybe ur jsut stupid or u ahev other reasons to do it a lto of ppl join the army becuz they wanna see hwo it to kill someone or w.e
so there is more pressure on sports players then doctors? Doctors are the only thing that stand between you're pathetic life and your glorified death. I dont see sports players running around the field saving the lives of people. Re-evaluate your shit! Doctors deserve every bit of gratitude they recieve and MORE! So when you are out busting your ass playing hockey and break your head open remember not to go to a doctor because they are not heroes? You dumb shit!

[Ravek]

here my 2 cents about this... sports are great and all but wen it boils down its entertainement for other people i'm not talking about school sports and sports between friends thats just for fun... i'm talking about the big league teams that get the best players around and put them into a team for other teams just as good... they do it cus there good at it and they make LOTS of money, and the average joe watchs these games for entertaiment, there not helping u in any way so they don't deserve the term hero, there just entertainers...

as for the athleets in the oylmpics, they play becuse they know if they win they will get fame and forturne, and alot of people watch the olympics for entertainment, they don't deserve the title hero ether


the people that deserve that title are the people helping socitey (soliders doctors etc.) there the ones that shud be all over the media, not some jock that made the wining point

[SLY]

omg doctors dont do shit simple as that those mother fuckign assholes with their salaries cost me money and also them using expensive treatments and devloping shit that doesnt wokr costs money its a waste. and liek i siad there is less pressure on docotrs you have to screw up big time to get fired as a docotor and its a logn process. if for any reason a team doesnt want you playing anymore they cna stop playing you n stop paying you. also most of those olympians are poor as mohterfuckers the only ones who r rich are ian thorpe and shit liek the nba players who got owned. also look at family dotctors they dotn do anythign they say "say ahhhhhhh" and htey give a kid a shot and ask to take ur blood pressure they do nothign but still make liek 125 k a yr and its a simple job. they do ocntinue to learn stuff but its mostly form experience or when a new drug is invented or some shit and you have time to learn it. you have to work out 5 hours a day in the off season to continue to play hockey and you have to do travelling and shit and do so much docotors are fags i hate over 95% of them family docotors are shit these therapsits ones are shit the ones developing cures are shit the only ones that i think r good are e.r. doctors and even with them they have shit pretty easy most of the cases rollign in are kids who fell and hurt their ankle or arm or w.e

[SLY]

Originally posted by vegimite on toast@Sep 4 2004, 02:31 AM
and what about conscripts for world war 2 and 1 ? i don't think they got paid.
they got paid. isa id soldiers got paid earlier yah jack ass. and if you got killed your family got paid liek 5 bucks or w.e

[Ravek]

wen i mean doctor i mean like surgeons and people acctuallly helping people with there problems not diagnostics

[Mute1]

Originally posted by SLY@Sep 4 2004, 11:02 AM
omg doctors dont do shit simple as that those mother fuckign assholes with their salaries cost me money and also them using expensive treatments and devloping shit that doesnt wokr costs money its a waste. and liek i siad there is less pressure on docotrs you have to screw up big time to get fired as a docotor and its a logn process. if for any reason a team doesnt want you playing anymore they cna stop playing you n stop paying you. also most of those olympians are poor as mohterfuckers the only ones who r rich are ian thorpe and shit liek the nba players who got owned. also look at family dotctors they dotn do anythign they say "say ahhhhhhh" and htey give a kid a shot and ask to take ur blood pressure they do nothign but still make liek 125 k a yr and its a simple job. they do ocntinue to learn stuff but its mostly form experience or when a new drug is invented or some shit and you have time to learn it. you have to work out 5 hours a day in the off season to continue to play hockey and you have to do travelling and shit and do so much docotors are fags i hate over 95% of them family docotors are shit these therapsits ones are shit the ones developing cures are shit the only ones that i think r good are e.r. doctors and even with them they have shit pretty easy most of the cases rollign in are kids who fell and hurt their ankle or arm or w.e
yaa ......right

you are a fuckin retard sly

go beat your own face in with a bat....please

[fae]

dictionary.com :rolleyes:

HERO:

-A person noted for feats of courage or nobility of purpose, especially one who has risked or sacrificed his or her life: soldiers and nurses who were heroes in an unpopular war.

-A person noted for special achievement in a particular field: the heroes of medicine. See Synonyms at celebrity.

I guess if you use it as the second one then you can say sports people are heros if they're doing really hot - when it's used as a synonym for celebrity sometimes... but i think we're talking about the first def. here mainly - sports people might be good, they may help some charities (though some do it for the show n necessity of PR ness) etc but I think we're talking about HERO HERO. Sports people entertain, yes, and entertainment is important and is another higher level of society etc, but it's not the nitty gritty necessities. Also, maybe they do risk injury etc, but for what? entertainment. Maybe they play for more than the money, but so? They're all good n all but I think the thing is people are discussing HERO as in the first definition more... but of course, again, hero can be used kind of as celebrity, or person-one-looks-up-to i guess. Sports people work hard to get where they're at but personally i don't think it's a heroic act.

Sure I don't think all doctors are heros - though some i really like - for example my family physician - so he doesn't do surgery etc - but hey heck he's really smart and is good at what he does... half the time he DOESN'T make you pay big bux to go run tests on huge expensive machines - he's Indian so it's like he knows all this stuff n can tell all this stuff just by kinda checkin a few things. I highly appreciate him. Maybe he's not heroic but so?

But if I were to be in some blasted accident and needed immediate care - those doctors who are on busy 24/7 for a while for example if there was a huge thing where there were many injuries, then those people are, in a sense, heroic, yet not COMPLETELY also... so yeh it's a very debatable topic IMHO

[SLY]

okay if the family dcotor doesnt know whats wrong they send u to a specialist i could go to a specialist on my own but it takes longer to get to them unless ur refeared by a docotor. i have never gotten any help from a family docotr they todl em to do what i was ogign to do anyways i had a family physcian shit for a whiel then i went to walk in clinics no ia hve another fmaily physican they all suck they get paid outrageous money for telling me to go to the e.r or to go to a nose and throat specialist or to go my chiropractor. ive broken my fingers b4 and i asked her if i should get an x-ray and she said no it looks liek a sprain then i go gt a x-ray anyways and its broken... they rnt heros they dont do anythign likei sair e.r docs are but normal ones are gay and shit.

[square]

Originally posted by SLY@Sep 4 2004, 11:02 AM
omg doctors dont do shit simple as that those mother fuckign assholes with their salaries cost me money and also them using expensive treatments and devloping shit that doesnt wokr costs money its a waste. and liek i siad there is less pressure on docotrs you have to screw up big time to get fired as a docotor and its a logn process. if for any reason a team doesnt want you playing anymore they cna stop playing you n stop paying you. also most of those olympians are poor as mohterfuckers the only ones who r rich are ian thorpe and shit liek the nba players who got owned. also look at family dotctors they dotn do anythign they say "say ahhhhhhh" and htey give a kid a shot and ask to take ur blood pressure they do nothign but still make liek 125 k a yr and its a simple job. they do ocntinue to learn stuff but its mostly form experience or when a new drug is invented or some shit and you have time to learn it. you have to work out 5 hours a day in the off season to continue to play hockey and you have to do travelling and shit and do so much docotors are fags i hate over 95% of them family docotors are shit these therapsits ones are shit the ones developing cures are shit the only ones that i think r good are e.r. doctors and even with them they have shit pretty easy most of the cases rollign in are kids who fell and hurt their ankle or arm or w.e
dear god. i read about the first 3 sentences of that and then had to stop. you're so....incredibly....stupid.

well, i went back and read the whole t hing, and now i want that minute of my life back. fuck, you have NO idea how hard it is to become a doctor. they deserve their pay. they are paid PER PATIENT. if they dont work hard, t hey dont get paid shit. the therapists are the ones coming up with cures? buddy.....look up the definition of therapist you moron, all therapists do is help patients recover from injuries/surgery.

[SLY]

i know what thereapists do u fuckface they help rape victims and ppl who were traumatized and shit. and doctors dont have to work incredibly hard only an extra 4 yrs of school big fuckign deal they make outrageous amounts of money.

[square]

Originally posted by SLY@Sep 4 2004, 03:10 PM
i know what thereapists do u fuckface they help rape victims and ppl who were traumatized and shit. and doctors dont have to work incredibly hard only an extra 4 yrs of school big fuckign deal they make outrageous amounts of money.
4 yrs? do you know how HARD that four years of medical school is? it would surprise me if you even graduated highschool, let alone thought about going into medicine, which happens to cost $20 000+/year in tuition.

therapists that help rape victims are psychologists/psychiatrists, and really have nothing to do with the type of doctor you were talking about. you obviously have no idea. you think "outrageous amounts of money" is all there is to being a doctor? bahahahah :lol: :lol: :lol:


educate yourself

PLEASE

[SLY]

i know the diff types of doctors im jsut saying they have e.z. shit and dont benefit society like doctors who deveope cures look how many billiosn theyve wasted on aids... and like i said i use to haev an a average then i realize there was no way i would maek good money cuz i haev no hook ups and there will be no job openings for a whiel cuz the baby boomers retired and there jobs jave been refilled already so theres no point for me to try so my high 80's became 60's and 50's

[Earsone2004]

this is good shit

[EVAK_GBCKrew]

I hate it when rappers who call women bitches and hoes, are looked up to by kids. That's why this world is going to shit, because of these ignorant fucking rappers thinking they are heroes by putting that kind of mentality out there. I hope all of them die in one big plane crash. They have no idea how many lives they have ruined.

[GeSuS_KRiST]

so because a rapper uses the words bitches and hoes have ruined life i dont think thats that tru to an extent i would thing the fake ass gangster rapper talkin about hot many kids they kill over nothing, the people who front about slangin and drive benz on 24's are the people who are fuckin up the world more man thats why its all about real hiphop no that fuckin mainstream bet shit

[MoNkEy]

i would say heros are people who actually contribute to the earth and save peoples lives like surgeons, doctors and emergency services(except pigs who catch us painters). But then again heros can be what anyone wants them to be. Also wats ruined the world is war and stuff like that.

[A.S.]

i dont know what to call a hero now days..i just came back from iraq and i get all different types of responses..mostly peeps in canada call me a killer just because their against the war but a lot has called me a hero ..i guess i dont see it ..because 3 years ago they were callin me a menace and a vandal.. a hero is only as good as the moment last.. weve all been heros before

[Idealeyez]

man the only heros are civil rights leaders... and the majority of them are dead. i dont respect cats like michael jordan, u neva hear about him donating to charities, now do you?

[sika_2002]

david beckham, he may be a fellow englishman but some1 pls smack him. he aint a fucking hero. he kills a ball in a net. people who risk lives for others eg fire fighters.

[sika_2002]

soz bout the double post but its meant ta say "he kicks a ball in a net

[vegimite on toast]

I can't beleive this thread is still running, and sly about sportstars being hero's ok just hear me out here, sportstars=entertainers if they are entertainers how come i don't here other entertainers being called hero's such as comedians and actors?

[SLY]

im not saying they all are heros im saying they deserve the money they get. Some of them are heros im not saying they're heros just because they are ogod athletres but some of them go through cancer and a bunch of other shit and still play at the same level most ppl would be cursing the world but w.e thats not a hero either, its like being heroic and not giving up and shit i mean if i was told i have cancer id be like ahhh fuck it ad id quit everythign i was doing and even once i got better id be like FUCK U I HAD CANCER.

but that shit about donating money from idealeyez is stoopid donating money donest make u a hero... some times it could b liek bill gates, he literally has donated around or over 20 billion U.S. and hes made programs and donated them that let blind kids use computers and stuff and hes done a bunch of shit by donating cash is he a hero ideal?

[vegimite on toast]

People who donate money arn't hero's.

[SLY]

i know that, sometiems they can be, like donating money to pay for doctors 2 go to poor countries that have civil war and shit but usually they arent like what oprah does is not heroic at all thats for entertainment and boosting her image

[vegimite on toast]

Yah, i think your right with that oprah shit. I rekon she doesn't even give a flying fuck about kids in somalia and shit she just trying to look like an angel i rekon. She only does that sorta stuff cause she has the money, i rekon she would prefer too be in her multi-million dollar manshion painting her nails and looking through a gucci catalouge.

[Skore_One]

acutally if a doctor does kill someone it does matter it goes on their record and my moms a nurse she know about doctors its 10 years fo school and my brother plays hockey all u gotta pay is the fee for bein on the teram and the trainin and for ur equiptment and the most you would ever pay for camp is $500 and u think the players pay for that? no its their rich mommies and daddies ..and look at bertuzzi? who gives a fuck if he goes to jail for life he broke someones neck some guy scammed tiger woods for some money and got put away for 200 years to life ..oh and fuck nazis

[BullshitTantrum]

Originally posted by sure_1@Sep 4 2004, 12:32 AM

or people like eddie akiua (sp) who without hesitation left a sinking ship full of his friends to try to find help and was never seen again.

so hes a hero for leaving his friends on a sinking ship to "try and find help" and wasn't seen again. By who? his friends? prolly cause they're all dead and he's living on some island sippin cocanut milk.

[EVAK_GBCKrew]

Originally posted by MoNkEy@Oct 1 2004, 11:04 AM
i would say heros are people who actually contribute to the earth and save peoples lives like surgeons, doctors and emergency services(except pigs who catch us painters). But then again heros can be what anyone wants them to be. Also wats ruined the world is war and stuff like that.
War has existed since the beginning of time, and fought for all sorts of reasons. War is human nature, so grab yourself a tissue, and fucking deal with it. All these anti-war foundations consist of is a bunch of dreamy, unrealistic people, who still haven't come into terms with the fact that they too, are part of the human race, and the human race is part of nature, and it is our nature to fight when we have disagreements. This is also true in other animals......Tigers, Elk, Monkeys, Bees and Wasps, pretty much everywhere. Stop living a dream, stop wasting your time, do something productive.
I mean, yeah, war is horrible, but at the same time not everything in life is fine and dandy. And don't give me some bullshit about the U.S. starting wars with everyone, maybe if you could get off the U.S.'s nuts, and realize that there are dozens of OTHER countries at war as we speak, you wouldn't sound so fucking stupid.(Note, this isn't directly at you, basically, it is out to all the anti-U.S. anti-war tards.) Do you realize that ever since the human race started......there have been wars? It's foolish really, the Idea that a world can exist with complete peace.
Ever heard the phrase "if you try to please everyone, you please none?" Study it.

That is all....

[SLY]

Originally posted by Skore_One@Oct 8 2004, 10:28 AM
acutally if a doctor does kill someone it does matter it goes on their record and my moms a nurse she know about doctors its 10 years fo school and my brother plays hockey all u gotta pay is the fee for bein on the teram and the trainin and for ur equiptment and the most you would ever pay for camp is $500 and u think the players pay for that? no its their rich mommies and daddies ..and look at bertuzzi? who gives a fuck if he goes to jail for life he broke someones neck some guy scammed tiger woods for some money and got put away for 200 years to life ..oh and fuck nazis
i care, i agree burtuzzi was stoppid for doing that but he shouldnt have been charged and he should have only gotten like a 10 game suspension. and if a docotr kill s sum1 nothing happens i know my aunts ex husband is a surgeon and hes kileld a bunch of ppl well he dint kill them but they dyed. durign surgery or soon after and nothign has ever happend. if u kill them becuz u fuck up then u get screwed over which is good because u dont want these fuck ups operationg on ppl. also hockey camps cost more then 500 u dumb ass some cost liek 300, but most of the ones ive gone to were 700, or 1000 or 1200 for like a week. and equiptment is like 3000 a yr and then sticks, and transporation, and u go to more then one camp i use to go to like 4 a yr or 5 n also registration is like 1000 or more and u have to buy a stoopid team jacket n other shit. and my parents arent rich they make 50 k a yr canadian between them 50 or 60 b4 taxes and i had to work and get my aunt to help pay for it and my parents worked over time to help pay for it.. but it was all wasted because i didnt make jr a cuz i wasnt good enough and i drank and i smoked and all that shit.

[vegimite on toast]

Sly you live in canada? I always thought you lived in the U.S.S.R oh sorry fuck your not a commie i meant to say, "i thought you lived in the U.S.A.

[Alyte]

evak, i've never agreed more with someone on that issue.

[SLY]

Originally posted by vegimite on toast@Oct 8 2004, 11:35 PM
Sly you live in canada? I always thought you lived in the U.S.S.R oh sorry fuck your not a commie i meant to say, "i thought you lived in the U.S.A.
nope im canadian

[vegimite on toast]

Yah i worked that out after i found out winnipeg is in canada.

[das1]

this shit is all point less to argue about, who gives a fuck about the olympics or some guy who wins a bike race! :angry:

[vegimite on toast]

/\/\

You really are an idiot. If you read it more carefully and throughly. You would realise the olympics was an example, and this topic has a different issue to converse. You are a idiot so go back to badly lit damp stinking room with your father who sexsually abuses you and scribble down you little tags. You are a fucktard that needs to learn there is more too life that fucking graffiti. You would notice if your brain is capable of decifering simple textual information, which i doubt it is, you would notice that this perticular forum area is open for GENERAL dicussion with the sub heading talk about ANYTHING here. That means i can make a thread about what ever the fuck i like and seeing as it has survived the wrath of the moderators then that MUST mean it is a adequate thread and follows the boards rules, hence it still being alive. So fuck off. I think your dad is calling he is ready to gag you remember to bring the vaseline. Sorry for using big words fuck tard i hope you could understand them.

[rohan]

Originally posted by vegimite on toast@Oct 9 2004, 03:49 AM
I think your dad is calling he is ready to gag you remember to bring the vaseline.
zing!

[SLY]

my back hurts

[oblong]

Originally posted by the_uniBOMBER@Sep 4 2004, 12:29 AM
What pissed me off was that one girl who went to Afghanistan, and got captured, and then was rescued, and she was considered a hero. For what? Surviving? I do that every day and no one gives me parades. I say the people who rescued her should be called hero's but they were given only a fraction of the fame she received.
its so true
the people who risked their lives to extract her should be noticed
not the fucking women who was inprisoned/captured
its mental

[vegimite on toast]

I'm surprised this bullshit is still open.

[vegimite on toast]

Sly man your fucked, if becoming a doctor is a walk in the park then become one. Stop wasting your time with this hockey shit, the day i see you on the ice professionally will be the day i do a triple back flip into a pool of money nude surrounded by ultra shaven european porn stars.

[zicon]

hero is someone that inspires you to do the most with your life. someone who you want to be and reach your goals in life. anyone can be a hero. it all depends on the person's view.

hockey players get paid by people who buy tickets and merchandise. if you stop watching it, buying tickets and jerseys, and shit then they will be poor. my uncle could have been a professional hockey player he declined it because his father was dieing from cancer. he didn't take the job for the money. no amount of money can make him change his mind. family is more important than money.

authors are the same. people who buys their books they get a profit. you stop buying it they are poor as fuck.

mr armstrong had cancer and he will live the rest of his life with risk of it coming back once again. a cancer boy could see him as a hero for surviving a dificult task of surviving cancer. that boy wants to live and be like him. let that kid have his hero. he is a hero to that boy and that is all that matters. hence he can be a hero for surviving cancer. (someone mentioned about the money for the bracelets. i think the money raised went to cancer charities for research for cancer.)

vegimite on toast - i can see your point of hero's. i personally think that some are hero's and some are not.

sly- i bet you had a hero when you were young. who we think is lame. so don't be quick to judge who is a hero's and who is a zero. it's nice that you are expressing your views but you need to drop the cockyness. i think vegimite wanted an intelligent conversation.

we all have our views who is a hero and who is a zero. i can personally don't give shit who is and who isn't. i have my own views who is and who isn't. if people think that i am a " LOSER" for thinking that they are a hero then it's their own problem not mine.

[Alchohlics_Anonymous]

^nice points u have their. and i agree on some points,

[vegimite on toast]

Nice one zicon.

[_____JEKLROKS_____]

Originally posted by vegimite on toast@Sep 4 2004, 12:25 AM
With the recent olympic games with all the hombres competeing in races and winning them. Then the press [ and many people for that matter] start throwing around the term hero e.g " That american who one the track and feild he is an american hero." now that just sickens me they arn't hero's they won a friken race for gods sake. I hate it when the term hero gets used to explian sports stars its just stupid. I believe that the men and women who were taken into war and died for you country are the hero's cause im certain i would break my leg diliberatly so i can't get conscripted cause im a sissy and i don't wanna go too war. What do you guys think? Do you think that the term hero gets used to often when it comes to sports or do you think that the sports stars are heros? Please voice your opinion.
To people that think the olympics are a big thing probabbly think they are heros, but I don't care everything sucks...

[**MATEO**]

hugh heffner is one of my hero's lol

[BohemianBastard]

i read the first 4 pages of this thread (i dont know why)
and i cannot believe that vegi could read sly's posts i know i couldnt

[Red3]

Same. Then I realised you bumped a thread from 2005, when it is almost 2007.