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RUDE_Bwoy
11-04-2007, 09:35 AM
Is it possible to remove fingerprints from cans...
if so.. how?
just wipe them off?
cause i heard that you could do that, but i also heard that you coudnt

just wear gloves and when the can is empty throw it away in a dumpster but hold it with a bandana or something.sort of like a gun

Olick
11-04-2007, 09:37 AM
or you can beat up a homeless and plant the can on him.. sort of like the mafia.........

xtitansx0
11-04-2007, 01:17 PM
how can i refil the otr 006 and the 060?

Olick
11-04-2007, 01:19 PM
..............................................unsc rew it.......

rave316
11-04-2007, 01:27 PM
My bad on not being specific anyone know of a store that sells broad tip markers cause most stores i've been to only have fine tip markers.

xtitansx0
11-04-2007, 02:44 PM
..............................................unsc rew it.......

the 060 wont...

Olick
11-04-2007, 04:24 PM
http://www.bombingscience.com/catalog.htm?item=409&ret=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bombingscience.com%2Fcatalog. htm%3Fpage%3D1%26category%3DMarkers
that one?

yes...it does.

rave316
11-04-2007, 08:00 PM
http://www.bombingscience.com/catalog.htm?item=409&ret=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bombingscience.com%2Fcatalog. htm%3Fpage%3D1%26category%3DMarkers
that one?


Yeah those kinds, any stores in public sell them or can i only find em online?

xtitansx0
11-04-2007, 10:09 PM
ooh i got it and yes stores sell them (only graff that ive seen) not art usualy.U live in jersey?

xtitansx0
11-05-2007, 12:11 AM
who owns bs?
thats a serious question lol

rave316
11-05-2007, 09:03 AM
ooh i got it and yes stores sell them (only graff that ive seen) not art usualy.U live in jersey?
na i live in downeast NC, probobly the most close minded, racist, uptight place i've lived in. Most of the graff work i've seen down here looks like shit that a five year old does

xtitansx0
11-05-2007, 09:06 AM
i doubt the security is tight down there in home depot? do u bmx?
u know eastern bikes hq is there

xtitansx0
11-05-2007, 12:48 PM
who owns bs?!!!!!???????

Dast
11-05-2007, 01:39 PM
Sup guys, I have been an avid artist for a while now (drawing random stuff, characters, etc.). And I have decided to start drawing some graffiti and tagging. I have been trying to get my head around a style I like and now im looking for a name.

This brings me to why I'm posting in the toy question thread: The name I'm thinking of writing is "DAST". Am I biting this name from a better tagger?

peace.

rave316
11-05-2007, 02:29 PM
Sup guys, I have been an avid artist for a while now (drawing random stuff, characters, etc.). And I have decided to start drawing some graffiti and tagging. I have been trying to get my head around a style I like and now im looking for a name.

This brings me to why I'm posting in the toy question thread: The name I'm thinking of writing is "DAST". Am I biting this name from a better tagger?

peace.

The simple answer you'll get is just google it, if you don't find anything then your good to go.

xtitansx0
11-05-2007, 03:54 PM
who the fuck owns bs????????????????????????????????

Olick
11-05-2007, 04:46 PM
who the fuck owns bs????????????????????????????????

newz12 owns bs i believe

sallybsk
11-05-2007, 11:51 PM
ugh soo
can anyone help me with this question...
i own two molotow markers one 420(mini) and another 640(burner)
i was looking on the website first and their little diagram says they both have Sidekick™-Cap: i was checking that because both of the caps have been broken in the last week.
anyway you think i can just get a replacement cap? or ah idk... because they both seem to have the same damage and it sucks ass.

bummppp? :\
i doubt it, but anywhere possible, otherwise ima have to carry that shit in a ziploc bag, or buy empty ones and take the caps? O.o sigh.

smooth_nuts
11-06-2007, 12:02 AM
try taking the cap off a zig poster man or garden craft marker that may fit cause i dout you'll find a site that sells replacements any where.......

sallybsk
11-06-2007, 12:34 AM
thanks mang, i'll try...
but first im going to try to mcgiver its ass first, with some good ol fashing sand paper and duct tape. :D

skiv
11-06-2007, 06:30 PM
What Throw up should i use..http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u304/gihazevt/IMG_0003-1.jpg?t=1194395323

d_g
11-06-2007, 06:48 PM
Neither to be honest, they both nead A LOT of work.

I'd go with the first for progressing though or tone down the spikes on the second.

Next time post this sort of thing in toy blackbooks. Thanks.

skiv
11-06-2007, 08:29 PM
k thnx ill work on it

CIPE2
11-06-2007, 11:43 PM
hey iv been writing for about 2 months now and gone through soooooooo many names and i just cant find one that fits until i found this CIPE2 its EPIC backwards and i did a search on google with it and nothin came up so i was wonderin if i should stick with it before i try any throwies with the name. if you guys have any constructive crits for me on it or some ideas for a name shoot them this way thanks

silentchaos14
11-07-2007, 12:07 AM
cipe2 and cope2, u know theres no similarities there at all. it may only be one letter but i suggest u choose a name not so close to a legends, even if he does suck.

CIPE2
11-07-2007, 12:23 AM
lol thats what i was thinking about i was thinkin ppl would start shit cuz its so close and i use the 2 because its my 2nd attempt at graff the first time i wasnt so sly as i am now i got busted so thats where the 2 comes from its just that almost every name is taken

BORG
11-07-2007, 12:26 AM
man i'd so go for it, it's not close to cope2 at all, theres a big difference, and silent- y you sayin cope 2 sucks????? can you do a piece or throw equivalent to his and get up as much?????????????????????? learn some respect son

d_g
11-07-2007, 12:27 AM
Technically it is close to Cope2 but meh fuck it, as long as you aren't ripping off his shit I doubt anyone will notice.

CIPE2
11-07-2007, 12:44 AM
so you guys think its a good one and that i should stick with it?

Bets369R
11-07-2007, 12:46 AM
its up to you. When and if you get up enough for cope to actually care about what you write Then you might want to worry. hopefully by then you'll be good enough and possibly battle him haha...

CIPE2
11-07-2007, 12:54 AM
haha yea thats the plan man!!! lol anyway yea im gana stick with it anyway cope is up north im down south in texas so its mostly gang shit down here anyway they think its cool to cross out ppl. like for instance....im just gana vent for a sec so buzz off :P anyway i was down in the ditch blazin and i was with a couple of guys i didnt know personally but there krew is the "bud freaks krew". anyway theres a guy who gets up alot around my area who goes by jink and he has a wicked handstyle and im tokin up right and this guys busts out a can and im like o shit u write. and he just walks back and fourth crossing him out im like wtf show some respect and hes like fuck that those colors are wack. now is it just me or is that a legit reason to cross somone out?!?!?!? ok sorry bout that bu hadda get it out there

-Leski
11-07-2007, 01:04 AM
People who just cross and dont bother throwing something better down over top or atleast just take the time to fucking bomb it piss me off.

Bets369R
11-07-2007, 01:07 AM
it dont really piss me off know why? cause thats 1 more person that recognized my shit, and everyone else who sees it crossed out will think "what a punk ass little bitch for crossing that out without even leaving a name"

CIPE2
11-07-2007, 01:08 AM
yea thats exactly what he did.then like in the next tunnel he hit up exist but it was so wack it was in the walmart silver and green and if anyones used walmart green it sucks balls anyway the piece he did was like 3 feet wide and 2 feet high and it took him like 15 mins to do it was so sorry my lil bro could do a tag with more style and color and he's 3 XD

Bets369R
11-07-2007, 01:10 AM
hes probably gonna get beat up, i suggest not hanging out with him anymore haha

-Leski
11-07-2007, 01:13 AM
it dont really piss me off know why? cause thats 1 more person that recognized my shit, and everyone else who sees it crossed out will think "what a punk ass little bitch for crossing that out without even leaving a name"

Those little fucking punks that make their little "krewz" and run around crossing out shit and then leaving wack tags in paint all over schools and shit.

Hard not to get pissed off when you see it. But yah, you got a point.

CIPE2
11-07-2007, 01:17 AM
lol wasnt planning on it first off hes a fish in hs and second hes a punk ass and said if i go over his shit im dead!!! then after he said that and found out im 18 they were like o shit he can buy us cans.... yeah...right

CIPE2
11-07-2007, 01:23 AM
is it a good idea to tag at school??? like in the bathrooms as long as no one sees you? just wondering cause its a quick way to get your name up and around the school then then tell ppl and so on and so forth?

-Leski
11-07-2007, 01:35 AM
No.

Bets369R
11-07-2007, 01:40 AM
leave school alone.

when i was in school i had the LA river right down the street so that used to be fun. we would just ditch and go bomb the river

CIPE2
11-07-2007, 01:44 AM
lol simple enough. anyone have some tips on where i can start wrackin some supplies like inks and markers etc. just the simple basics money aint an issue i just have no clue where to look for some of this stuff. i have an otr marker but all the inks online are expensive are there any stores that carry ink that will work with the otr? o and one other thing what stores carry those sakura markers

Bets369R
11-07-2007, 01:47 AM
find an arts and crafts store near you. Here we have Michaels and Joann's.

CIPE2
11-07-2007, 01:50 AM
yea we have michaels too. do they carry the sakuras? and hobby lobby and walmart i know walmart has the krylon painters. so pretty much anything that sells paintbrushes will have what i need right?

Bets369R
11-07-2007, 03:51 AM
i dont know where to get sakuras anymore. shit, i still have 2 mixed color ones from about 2 years ago. Any hobby store/hardware store (home depot etc..) should have ink and paint. for streakers (sakuras/meanstreaks) try office max or office depot or something like that. they usually only have white and yellow though

CIPE2
11-07-2007, 03:03 PM
hell yellow and white stand out big time on glass and those big black signs that say that a new subdivision is going up. thanks for those tips man looks like im gana grab my bike a my backpack and go shopping!!! lol are the meanstreaks easy to boost?

Bets369R
11-07-2007, 03:12 PM
depends. i live in a bad neighborhood so the ones near me are behind the register. but if i go 1 city over, they have them out in the isle

CIPE2
11-07-2007, 03:17 PM
yea i live in a big city but most the writters around here dont even know what they are the onlything they use is like a can of paint and a sharpie so they might have them out on the isle here.

xtitansx0
11-07-2007, 03:24 PM
ok this is the only place where i thought this should go

i have always pronounced deco's decko's
when i was in michaels this bitch said it was deeko's which is right?

d_g
11-07-2007, 03:29 PM
I've always thought it was deck-o.

Vagrant
11-07-2007, 03:32 PM
deck-o
its short for decorate.
you don't fuckin say deekorate do you?

JEDI-MASTER
11-07-2007, 03:32 PM
same^ nd vagrant wats up with all the flies on ur pg???

Vagrant
11-07-2007, 03:42 PM
flies are my thing. its my karak.

Bets369R
11-07-2007, 03:43 PM
same^ nd vagrant wats up with all the flies on ur pg???

Maybe thats his signature character?

Bets369R
11-07-2007, 03:53 PM
beat me to it haha

CIPE2
11-07-2007, 04:15 PM
i love your flies man i like the one with the shilloete(spelling) and like the honeycomb in the background

Vagrant
11-07-2007, 04:37 PM
Thanks. its not honeycomb or even ment to be honeycomb, but yeah I like that background. I'm working on some new slaps with that background and the hand painted karak. Sprayed them up today.

CIPE2
11-07-2007, 04:48 PM
how did u get the background like that a stencil? and what kinda markers pencils etc... do you use on those stickers just wondering cause the look nice and clean like you cant see the lines where u cored them in almost like computerized

d_g
11-07-2007, 05:25 PM
deck-o
its short for decorate.
you don't fuckin say deekorate do you?

Haha sigworthy.

Didn't know it was short for decorate. Buzzy.

T O K E
11-07-2007, 05:27 PM
do stickers get fucked up in the rain?

d_g
11-07-2007, 05:28 PM
Depends.

On the paper, the adhesive, the ink used to mark on them.

xtitansx0
11-07-2007, 05:53 PM
ok ty i was right
i looked at that bitch like she was nuts....

CIPE2
11-07-2007, 07:19 PM
ok quick question. anyone know where to get a template of like a train or a moving truck that i can print out and pratice my proportions on?

Bets369R
11-07-2007, 10:01 PM
google graffiti studio

xtitansx0
11-07-2007, 10:11 PM
the closes a.c. moore is a 30 min buss ride so i am concered of the folowing

do they sell decos single?
do they have a whole bunch of colors?
is it worth a 30 min bussride?
do they have anything bigger than a 24 pack of prismas

Bets369R
11-07-2007, 10:18 PM
the closes a.c. moore is a 30 min buss ride so i am concered of the folowing

do they sell decos single?
do they have a whole bunch of colors?
is it worth a 30 min bussride?
do they have anything bigger than a 24 pack of prismas

Try to google and see if thy have an online store, or a phone number you can call? Also, just catch mad spots on the bus? 30 minute bus ride is nothing when you got a marker or a mop. i used to take 1 and a half hour buss rides to downtown and it felt like 10 minutes. just bring some paper and a pen, or marker/mop and get up on the bus

xtitansx0
11-07-2007, 11:07 PM
onlyine stores arenever the same as the store use targets,wallmarts,staples,best buys as examples theyre totaly different man

Bets369R
11-07-2007, 11:09 PM
onlyine stores arenever the same as the store use targets,wallmarts,staples,best buys as examples theyre totaly different man
but they should have a store locater. then you locate your store and call the store and ask your questions to the store clerk. asking us these questions doesnt help. we cant read minds.

Bets369R
11-07-2007, 11:12 PM
Store #103 - Secaucus, NJ
400 Mill Creek Drive
Secaucus, NJ 07094
(201) 902-0377
3.28 Miles

How hard was that seriously.

xtitansx0
11-07-2007, 11:14 PM
i called and asked b4 man lol its not that she said she couldent give any information on what decos they had since she "didnt have any training in that area"

xtitansx0
11-07-2007, 11:15 PM
did it hours ago

Bets369R
11-07-2007, 11:15 PM
tell that bitch to put you on with someone who HAS training lol

xtitansx0
11-07-2007, 11:22 PM
its 12:21 am theyre not open lol

xtitansx0
11-07-2007, 11:24 PM
at michaels the bitch pronounced it deeko colors lol i felt like a retart for a while till i found out i was right and its deck-o-colrs
so these ppl are realy stupid

Bets369R
11-07-2007, 11:25 PM
maybe she needed her fix of deek.

xtitansx0
11-07-2007, 11:49 PM
hahahaahah i should go back and ask if they have dick o markers

intaout
11-07-2007, 11:57 PM
isn't it harder to steal them if you get them to show you where they are??? well i guess its not much to slip a few into your pocket.

xtitansx0
11-08-2007, 12:20 AM
Im more of a bagfull kind of guy lol

When i steal prismas i get 2 24 packs 3/4 12 packs and like 5 6 packs
Man its awesome geting that much money worth of markers in so little time
*throws phone* i hate typing on a sidekick

Bets369R
11-08-2007, 01:43 AM
try typing on a blackberry pearl. so fucking hard.

xtitansx0
11-08-2007, 10:08 AM
lol

xtitansx0
11-10-2007, 04:56 PM
besides whats inside whats the deference between the flowpen and the 060?

intaout
11-10-2007, 05:01 PM
flowpen is ink. 0.60 is paint
i think so....

Sick!
11-10-2007, 05:06 PM
whats a mop? i kno that prolly sounds fukin toy but ive never really understood that

Flash_One
11-10-2007, 05:27 PM
whats a mop? i kno that prolly sounds fukin toy but ive never really understood that
a mop is a kiwi shoe polish container filled with a ink/or paint..

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/3913/kiwiliquidshoepolishff5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

djsupreeme
11-10-2007, 05:32 PM
doesnt have to be just a kiwi.. can be a bingo dabber too

xtitansx0
11-10-2007, 06:01 PM
i know the flowpen has ink and 060 has paint i asked.
besides whats inside whats the deference between the flowpen and the 060?

^exact words^

Flash_One
11-10-2007, 07:37 PM
doesnt have to be just a kiwi.. can be a bingo dabber too
yeah but bingo dabbers dont compare to mops in my mind... but yeah i guess your right.

Roolete
11-10-2007, 07:57 PM
wow. a mop is just a marker that puts out a lot of ink/ paint. can be anything you cant it too. most times it drips, but it doesnt have to.

Olick
11-10-2007, 08:15 PM
mops arnt markers.

if you see a marker..then its a marker "aka. pump. tampon marker. has cotton. has hard nib. paint cant flow threW"

if you see something that is used to write but isnt a marker. then chances are its a mop "aka. no pump. sponge nib. empty case with ink/paint. usually round nibs. usually squeazable. has small valve to control paint/ink flow"

dont kno how to really describe it. but youll kno when you see one

Roolete
11-10-2007, 08:35 PM
well i think of markers as something that marks and isnt spraypaint or something stupid

cds_dogg665544
11-10-2007, 11:12 PM
Where can i get 80%alchohal or over????????

Olick
11-10-2007, 11:17 PM
sure thing Captain Dick Swallows!!

hahahha jp playin man. it sjust that i used to say that at school alot. and CDS is the same thing haha.

80% or higher. THE STORE!

i get 91% at walgreens

you can get 99.9 is "denatured wood alcohol"

intaout
11-10-2007, 11:19 PM
idk? drugstore? i just use paint thinner. unless your drinking it.....

a mop and marker is actually harder to explain than you think it would be. its pretty simple though. this video helps kind of.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7-EwWjBDZI

"Fasho" T|y|B
11-10-2007, 11:23 PM
i stole a FATASS bingo marker from work(iwork at a bowling alley shut up)
fuck dude those mops suck ass like i wrote on a wall and the mop grinded away all fast so i just emptied it into my squeezer marker.

intaout
11-10-2007, 11:24 PM
that junobo paint looks so sick. i want green

"Fasho" T|y|B
11-10-2007, 11:31 PM
i want this

http://shop.paintthenation.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=2&zenid=148cc6c2db6b497b2bbcd5e68a21b49f

the grafcans

brandonb5269
11-11-2007, 12:00 AM
if u want a graff can go to ur local hardwear store
buy pvc primer, it stains and is the exact same thing
u can dump out the primer, or use it all up
but either way just clean that shit up and u have the exact same thing!

"Fasho" T|y|B
11-11-2007, 02:10 AM
pvc primer eh?
sick man thanx ill check that out!

cds_dogg665544
11-11-2007, 02:53 AM
what should i say when i buy alchohal for ink and some one asks what im buying it for??

SEIZE [reppin yo hood]
11-11-2007, 02:59 AM
they wont ask you what you are buying it for and if they do don't answer. or make up some bullshit excuse like you gotta clean something.

Olick
11-11-2007, 03:04 AM
just say its for your mom and your just running some errands. simple as that

pocket change
11-11-2007, 07:04 PM
ok im just wondering what programs you guys use for graphic desgin, like computer programs..
thanks

T O K E
11-11-2007, 07:19 PM
photoshop

intaout
11-12-2007, 12:26 AM
ya me too. im on the trial right now:( i use acorn though when it expires then gimp

mmmburgers
11-12-2007, 05:51 PM
i want this

http://shop.paintthenation.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=2&zenid=148cc6c2db6b497b2bbcd5e68a21b49f

the grafcans

WHOA MAN that graff can looks dope!
i want one!!!!!
>.<

C-Lurk
11-13-2007, 06:35 PM
Alright, question...

I just got the paint, and thinner for Ghetto Krink...How important is the Brake Fluid?

xtitansx0
11-13-2007, 06:38 PM
thats what witches brew comes in

silentchaos14
11-13-2007, 06:39 PM
it isnt needed. dot 3 brake fluid is used in INK not PAINT. it is used in ink to slow down the drying time and let the ink penetrate the surface to stain better.

C-Lurk
11-13-2007, 06:47 PM
it isnt needed. dot 3 brake fluid is used in INK not PAINT. it is used in ink to slow down the drying time and let the ink penetrate the surface to stain better.

Alright, sick.

acres1
11-13-2007, 06:49 PM
how do i enter a handstyle or a battle

xtitansx0
11-13-2007, 07:51 PM
are zig woodcrafts reffilable?'

C-Lurk
11-13-2007, 07:56 PM
how do i enter a handstyle or a battle

BEEF!


...or request one with a Battle Mod?

d_g
11-13-2007, 08:01 PM
^^Apparently so, they're glued down though and they might have reverse thread.

Acres, to enter a battle go to the battle section of the forum and see what battles are running in the call out thread then PM your entry to the mod in charge.

letsg0skate
11-13-2007, 08:04 PM
zig woodcrafts are refillable. Try turning it left and right though I always forget which way to turn it lol.

Bazer
11-13-2007, 08:20 PM
they turn right for some reason...

mmmburgers
11-13-2007, 10:46 PM
is belton good?
cause i was thinking of buying some...

d_g
11-14-2007, 01:23 AM
Yes it's good.

mmmburgers
11-14-2007, 05:00 PM
better than montana?

d_g
11-14-2007, 06:51 PM
Similar quality, personal preference really.

Olick
11-14-2007, 06:52 PM
^^i like belton better too.

Bets369R
11-14-2007, 06:54 PM
is belton good?
cause i was thinking of buying some...


Rustoleum
Quality varies considerably from one color and sub-brand to the next. The "stops rust" black is the best black among the shwag brands. "Stops Rust" is their all-purpose line. The colors are somewhat run-resistant and generally cover well. Rustoleum brand paint works with almost every type of cap out there, though some hi-pressure caps do not work well. Rusto offers about 100 colors.
Rustoleum: Painter's Touch
This is the better brand of Rustoleum.
Rustoleum: American Accents
Ugly, watery, overspray... all things you will complain about if you use this paint.
Krylon
Again, quality is not consistent with every color. Watermelon is one of their best, Tomato and Stonewash Denim are among their worst, as are their yellows and many ugly pastels.

Also, some of people's favorite colors have been discontinued. Krylon seems to have fewer colors than they used to. Discontinued colors sell for big bucks on Ebay.

As quality is concerned, Krylon is not bad, though it is far from the best. Some colors cover poorly; on a white wall, this will not matter, but when covering previous lines, the color beneath may show through. This is important, because if you don't want undercoats showing through, you will have to go back over the line again (thus using double the paint and also possibly creating deviations from the original line.)

One of the biggest concerns (especially for novices, but pros as well) is drippiness. Krylon is definitely less drippy than generic paint, but compared with premium paints discussed below it is definitely more drippy.

You can make a can of Krylon much better by simply turning a new can upside-down and spraying propellent for about 10 seconds. (spray cans have a straw that runs from the nozzle to the bottom of the can, so by turning a can upside-down, you spray out the propellent without the paint, thus reducing the pressure in the can). This will give you much better control of the spray.

Krylon offers many lines of paint, but their "All-purpose spray paint" line is by far the largest with 52 colors, and when people say Krylon, they are usually referring to this product line.

Krylon All-Purpose Spray Paint
This is Krylon's classic line of paint. It's the best Krylon brand overall. 52 colors offered. See here (http://www.a2planet.com/guide/work/index-revc.html#1239) for details about good and bad colors.
Krylon Satin Touch Spray Paint
This is a line of mostly pastel colors. It's not bad, but only 13 colors are offered.
Krylon H2O Latex
This stuff sucks. "Water-based latex." The name says it all. 20 crappy colors.
Spanish Montana (MTN)


Montana has two primary lines of paint: Hardcore, and Alien Art Concept.

Montana is great paint for several reasons.

The most important is the colors. Montana colors are bright. They cover great and they stand out, more than any other brand in most cases. They also have 124 colors to choose from, more than Rustoleum or Krylon offer.

Another important quality is drip resistance. Montana paint is very drip-resistant. After getting used to Montana paint, using cheaper brands can be frustrating, because you will be accustomed to paint that sticks to the wall. On the other hand, when MTN does drip, it drips badly. The downside is that when MTN drips, it drips bad and if you can catch it you might as well wipe the drip off.

Montana (and also Molotow, below) have a clever system for making it easier to identify your cans, too. Montana has a ring that fits the cap between the nozzle and the edge of the can indicating what color it is. If you've used Rustoleum or Krylon, you know how it can be tedious to figure out which can is which once the tops get mixed up. The ring prevents this problem.

There are two major lines of Montana, the Harcore line and the Alien Art Concept line. The difference between the two is that the Hardcore line comes in 400ml (standard size) cans with high-pressure fixed-pressure valves, while the Alien line comes in 250ml variable-pressure valves. Variable-pressure means you can push down a little and get a light spray or push down hard and get a heavy spray. More about valves here (http://www.a2planet.com/guide/work/index-revc.html#122).

The MTN Montana cans also have two balls ("peas" is the industry term) in the can instead of one like Rusto and Krylon, making shaking/mixing faster and easier.
German Montana
Overall, this paint is very similar to Belton Molotow. It is said by the company that the cans work properly in extreme temperatures from -38 to 48 degrees C (-36 to 118 F degrees F). German Montana offers two primary product lines, the "Black" and "Gold" lines.

Due to the ethical concerns about this company described below, I've only tested a few cans of German Montana--not enough for certain assurance, but good for general comments at least.

German Montana: Gold
At first, it seemed the Gold line performed great. It has great variable-pressure control, and lower pressure overall than other brands; it can make really skinny lines, and it didn't drip too easily. The Gold line has 174 colors available at this writing. German Montana Gold has a matte finish.

Once the paint dried, though, it didn't cover very well at all. We could see everything beneath the coat. This was tested with Shock Orange Dark 2020. Maybe other colors cover better, but this one didn't.


German Montana: Black
75 colors available. The Black line has a constant high-pressure valve like MTN Montana Hardcore. We tried a can of black and white. The black performed well but the white had lousy coverage.
Belton Molotow
Premium 400ml
Paint
Belton and Molotow are the same paint; Belton is the company name and Molotow is the name of the product line. But since Molotow is the only line Belton offers in the U.S.A., it's basically the same thing to us.

Because it is a German company, it is actually pronounced "Molotov" like the cocktail you throw. In German, the "V" and the "W" are the same letter; it is written "W" and pronounced "V". This is why "wiener schnitzel" is pronounced "veener schnitzel." Since "Molotov" is consistent with the whole "bombing" metaphor, we say "Molotov."

But anyway, about the paint.

Like Montana, Molotow colors are bright, and highly drip-resistant. Molotow offers even more colors, now approaching 200 (at this writing, 20 new colors are under development).

Molotow uses a variable-pressure system on all of their cans. This gives the artist more control over the spray than other brands (Montana Alien paint uses variable-pressure too, but not in 400ml cans).

One important advantage of Molotow is that the paint works properly in extreme temperatures. When we were painting our store, it was wintertime and we had to keep the building ventilated because of the paint fumes, so it was very cold in the room. The Montana cans would freeze unless we kept them on the radiators. Molotow works in freezing weather.

As colors go, Molotow is misleading: for reasons unknown, the color charts on the websites of the Belton company and U.S. distributor are inaccurate and unflattering. Many nice colors are shown to be greyish, whitish, or just plain ugly.

Details about this below (http://www.a2planet.com/guide/work/index-revc.html#truecolors). But, the actual colors are very nice.

Also, Molotow paint is reported to be more resistant to fading and chipping than the other brands named above.
Belton Molotow Transparents
Belton released twelve new "transparent" colors in late 2006. It sounded like these could be great for shading. We tried transparent Ces Violet to see if the stuff was as good as it could be.

Unfortunately, the transparent colors are nothing remarkable. They are very transparent, going on almost clear. After re-coating it until it was nice and visible, it broke out into drips.

Spraying just one line over various colors with a New York Fat cap at close range, the line barely showed up over white and not at all over the colors.

The transparents are probably useful for doing very subtle and precise shading, but you would have to go through a lot of it because the color is so thin. If you can afford that, then the transparent colors can do things you just can't do with other colors.

But if cost is a factor, you probably won't like the new series.

xtitansx0
11-16-2007, 10:35 PM
where can i get syringes? im 14 and im not ordering off the internet

intaout
11-16-2007, 11:07 PM
isnt a syringe a needle?
this website has a hella load of information about everything.
http://www.a2planet.com/guide/work/index-revc.html

d_g
11-17-2007, 03:21 AM
A syringe is the plastic part minus needle.

Most (if not all) pharmacy's/drug stores sell syringes. Depending on what size you need you can say you need it to make small measurements of a liquid, make up some science project bullshit. I've needed syringes before to give liquid medicine to my cats as well, used it for measuring and squirting on to their food.

That story might not work if you need a big 50cc one or something though.

LikeOner
11-17-2007, 02:32 PM
How do I get my lines to be straighter? My hands are pretty shaky.

-Leski
11-17-2007, 03:12 PM
How do I get my lines to be straighter? My hands are pretty shaky.

Practice. Over and over, where no one will see it.

LikeOner
11-17-2007, 03:20 PM
Practice. Over and over, where no one will see it.

Well, no ones seeing it anyway(except on here now and then), I'm talking about sketching in my book.

Clowney-Cakes
11-17-2007, 03:35 PM
blackbooksa are good for coming up with letters and shit, but it dosnt do shit for taken it to the wall or can control. find a practice spot and hit it nonstop

LikeOner
11-17-2007, 07:20 PM
blackbooksa are good for coming up with letters and shit, but it dosnt do shit for taken it to the wall or can control. find a practice spot and hit it nonstop

No, no I'm not talking about can control, I don't even paint much. I'm talking about pen control, my sketches come out all shaky cause my hands shake.

I can actually do straighter lines with paint since its more in the arm rather than the hands.

Saxaphone
11-17-2007, 07:34 PM
How do I get my lines to be straighter? My hands are pretty shaky.

just practice loads, i remember when i first started and all my lines were incredibly shaky but now there not as bad. with a bit more practice my lines should be good.

d_g
11-17-2007, 09:11 PM
Try messing with turning the paper, my horizontal lines own my vertical ones. But I'm starting to get better. Try different speeds as well, fast lines generally are straighter. Might be easier for you to learn fast accurate lines than slow unshaky ones if you know what I mean.

But yeah, practice is pretty much the only way.

sibil juggalo
11-18-2007, 12:23 AM
just draw more it probably isnt that your hands are shaky your just not used to trying to keep them steady.when you draw try to keep your pencil down and do one consistant line but do it lightly just so you can erase it if you need to

JetBlack
11-18-2007, 01:02 AM
Sure its been asked, but whats a good cheap marker for sketching? Ive tried a bunch but they either dry out too quick, or theyre too expensive to be fuckin around with.

Bets369R
11-18-2007, 02:19 AM
sketch with a pencil.

IwriteNASR
11-18-2007, 02:23 AM
rack prismas

5Funerals
11-18-2007, 12:54 PM
True that hombre^ Pissed I couldn't make it yestreday!

calculating infinity
11-18-2007, 12:58 PM
Sure its been asked, but whats a good cheap marker for sketching? Ive tried a bunch but they either dry out too quick, or theyre too expensive to be fuckin around with.

ballpoint pens

-ShAmEE-
11-18-2007, 01:06 PM
or, just jazz them up on the good old photoshop. homie

JetBlack
11-18-2007, 01:43 PM
Yeah. Besides racking Prismas, those were all really bad ideas. How the fuck am I supposed to do a fill with a pencil and a ballpoint pen? Answer me that.

I mean theres no cheap substitute you guys use to work on stickers and shit?

-ShAmEE-
11-18-2007, 02:03 PM
to b honest u wanna do is sketch, the fill the ones u want to bomb.

Lane718[CBT]
11-19-2007, 03:15 PM
i know everyone says to use pilots when startin off and i have a few other makrers but when i use the pilot i get streaks with it is there a way to prevent this?

RUDE_Bwoy
11-19-2007, 03:47 PM
Sure its been asked, but whats a good cheap marker for sketching? Ive tried a bunch but they either dry out too quick, or theyre too expensive to be fuckin around with.

sharpies are the shit.i want to try those elmers paint pens

Lane718[CBT]
11-19-2007, 03:57 PM
sharpie paint is actually good but they can get buffed easy

silentchaos14
11-19-2007, 04:04 PM
thats why your in the toy section my friend. hes talkin about sketching, like drawing on paper if u really need me to describe it. but yes sharpies are good enough for colouring, they bleed through the paper though so be be careful. sharpie poster paint markers are also alright for tagging as long as u dont care if it gets buffed.

Lane718[CBT]
11-19-2007, 04:22 PM
uhh yea these are toy questions but you just repeated what was just said

d_g
11-19-2007, 05:10 PM
sharpies are the shit.i want to try those elmers paint pens

The elmers paint pens are acyrlic, they take ages to dry but otherwise they're not too bad.

-Leski
11-19-2007, 05:44 PM
My weapon of choice for all-purpose sketching?

BIC "Cristal" ball point pens. In blue of course.

Comfterable to hold.
They last a long time and they don't fade and sputter or write chunky lines.
Also $3 gets you 10 of them, or five fingers and a deep pocket get you them for free.

You cant erase pen so you have to improvise while drawing with them, which in turn can make you a better artist, or make your drawing blow filthy chunks.

Edit: Oh yah, one pen usualy last me like 1-2 months of casual sketching, which does include shading and filling.

Lane718[CBT]
11-19-2007, 06:15 PM
yea the BIC pens are pretty good art pencils are good too
there are different sizes dependin on what kind of sketch your workin on but you can pick up a pack with all different sizes for around 5-10 bucks

JetBlack
11-19-2007, 09:10 PM
Yeah, I use sharpie markers. But am I the only one that noticed that the sharpie markers are always like darker than they describe to be? Like light blue comes out just blue. And all the dark colors just end up very similar. Ya cant even tell the difference between like dark blue, purple and brown. They all end up looking kinda the same.

I dunno, theyre cheap so kinda cant complain, but thats my biggest gripe about them. And yeah, they bleed easy.

Bets369R
11-20-2007, 02:41 AM
Yeah. Besides racking Prismas, those were all really bad ideas. How the fuck am I supposed to do a fill with a pencil and a ballpoint pen? Answer me that.

I mean theres no cheap substitute you guys use to work on stickers and shit?

like this.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e41/sirhc11/betssketch.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e41/sirhc11/boat.jpg

you dont NEED color for a sketch. Sketches are supposed to be a rough outline of something that your planning on painting. So usually sketches go uncolored and all the bars stay visible.

JetBlack
11-20-2007, 01:50 PM
Really? Yeah, Im not a total nub. I know how to sketch. Fuck, why did I post this questions in the toy forum...

Your like the 3rd person to try to explain what a sketch is and that I can sketch with a pencil. I fucking know that. I have sketches done and I wanna work on some color schemes. I would need some sort of marker for that. I also got some stickers I wanna work on, but again, I would need some markers. So the question was, whats a good cheap marker? Thats it. I dont give a fuck what I can sketch with. Not to be a dick, but Im aware I can sketch with a pencil, or pen or whatever.

How about those Touch Twins? Anyone work with them?

Vagrant
11-20-2007, 01:56 PM
Crayolas. Why bother with pro tools when you are just starting out with color schemes and shit?
Sharpies for more colors.
Or just rack prismas or some copics or something.

OR

Go with colored pencils. You can blend with them, and depending on your paper, can look pretty good. Its just a blackbook piece, for practice and experimenting, nothing wrong with using colored pencils.

5Funerals
11-20-2007, 02:20 PM
well since he should rack whatever he uses I dont see why he shouldnt get the best markers he can. Jet Black I think you should go to whatever art store you go to and go to the markers section. There should be plenty of good options there and you can try them for yourself. We cant do everything for you...

Vagrant
11-20-2007, 02:23 PM
Agreed, but from reading his post it seems as though he actually wants to PAY for them.

5Funerals
11-20-2007, 02:28 PM
oh I didnt read that. Thats cool I guess, just a waste of his money.

JetBlack
11-20-2007, 07:10 PM
What the fuck is everyone talking about? I just wanted to know of some good cheap markers. Where is this like debate coming from? And I have nothing against racking, but that wasnt the fucking question.

But uh... for sketching, colored pencils does sound like the easiest choice I guess. And I might look go pick up those sharpie paint markers, I dont really care if shit gets buffed. And if anyone has used the Touch Twin, let me know how you liked them, I might get a set of those.

xtitansx0
11-20-2007, 10:18 PM
what should i fill woodcrafts with?
gk?
ink?

afrillisdark
11-20-2007, 10:52 PM
what if you have really ugly handwriting to begin with. like a 1st graders handwriting. o_0 why would u want to work with that?

Maste
11-20-2007, 10:54 PM
use the letters from your keyboard...or develop a new style of handwriting for graff...thats what i did...i never even considered trying to use my real handwriting because it is also like a 1st graders

afrillisdark
11-20-2007, 11:13 PM
yea... 1st grade handwriting. its ashame cuz im a girl. but im left handed so it evens out

Bets369R
11-20-2007, 11:23 PM
my writing used to be shitty but my graf handstyle has also improved my regular writing

Vagrant
11-20-2007, 11:30 PM
@JetBlack: Chill out man, there was no debate. Just a comment and a retort. I answered your question.
If you're going to get sharpie paint markers make sure you get the oil-based kind. Water-based sucks balls, and the oil-based will hold up better no matter if you are writing right on something or making slaps.

LikeOner
11-21-2007, 01:14 AM
yea... 1st grade handwriting. its ashame cuz im a girl. but im left handed so it evens out

so lefties have bad handwriting? im left handed, maybe that is a reason why im shit at graffiti.

Kool-Aid Man
11-21-2007, 01:25 AM
dont give up bacause you have shit hand writing...

twisties
11-21-2007, 01:32 AM
its ashame cuz im a girl. but im left handed so it evens out
Same here...But lots of left handed people tend to have messy hand writing than right handed people. So it doesn't have anything to do if your male or female..It's just the way it goes. I keep working at my hand writing..I can be super neat but it takes forever..So I rather scrall when writing some letter to someone.

xtitansx0
11-21-2007, 12:24 PM
Same here...But lots of left handed people tend to have messy hand writing than right handed people. So it doesn't have anything to do if your male or female..It's just the way it goes. I keep working at my hand writing..I can be super neat but it takes forever..So I rather scrall when writing some letter to someone.
same fo' me

5Funerals
11-21-2007, 01:01 PM
There are marker and ink threads in the tips section.

Dying to live
11-21-2007, 03:23 PM
so lefties have bad handwriting? im left handed, maybe that is a reason why im shit at graffiti.

left handers a meant to be more artistic or so ive heard.. so don't worrie;)

originalhomeboy
11-21-2007, 03:26 PM
left handers a meant to be more artistic or so ive heard.. so don't worrie;)

Isn't that left brainers? Not left handers?

afrillisdark
11-21-2007, 06:31 PM
left handed people are RIGHT brained. it means we are more artistic/creative. thats why left handed people are quicker to catch optical illusions. and they have better comprehension skills and writing skills. really good artist and stuff are left handed, its bittersweet tho. so much us lefties can do but at the same time our own left hand bites us in the ass because it SMEARS everything lol

twisties
11-21-2007, 07:05 PM
^
Not when you learn how to use stuff correctly it won't smudge/smear.

-Leski
11-21-2007, 08:58 PM
Teach yourself to tag backwards?

Vagrant
11-21-2007, 09:33 PM
^
Not when you learn how to use stuff correctly it won't smudge/smear.

im guessing you're right handed?

im not left handed but i know what problems they have.

crazea03
11-23-2007, 02:12 AM
i got a can last weekend and the seal broke in it. is there anyway to save it uz its barely used. i try to spray with and it just sprays from under the cap and it just sucks. let me know if i can save it.

Bets369R
11-23-2007, 02:37 AM
get the paint out and use it in a mop

sham->
11-23-2007, 11:11 PM
dono if this has been asked? i kno that jus a toy would buy paint, but if its montana type goods n krinks behind glass, its ok ta buy it rite? jus saw some montana in berkeley?

msg me please, cus i hate tryna go thro the pages lookin for my post..

-Leski
11-24-2007, 12:21 AM
i got a can last weekend and the seal broke in it. is there anyway to save it uz its barely used. i try to spray with and it just sprays from under the cap and it just sucks. let me know if i can save it.

#1)Shake the can really well.
#2)Hold can upside and press down and release all the aerosol. ALL OF IT.
#3)Put can in a vice, find a hammer and nail.
#4)Puncture two wholes in the can.. Use common sense.
-(one hole for paint to come out the other for air to go in.)
#5)Have a container ready to carfully extract paint.
#6)Proceed to the ink directory in the help forums and try to locate info on spray paint based mop paint.
(also see markers thread if you dont know how to make a mop)

I felt like trying to be helpful... :confused:

twisties
11-24-2007, 03:56 AM
im guessing you're right handed?

im not left handed but i know what problems they have.

Nope...I am lefthanded. I do know it is hard to smudge..But you do get better over time.

cds_dogg665544
11-24-2007, 04:52 PM
how much %percent alchohal is vodka

kosher
11-24-2007, 04:57 PM
40

Vagrant
11-24-2007, 04:58 PM
drink the vodka and go rack some isopropyl alcohol.

kosher
11-24-2007, 05:01 PM
what's the point of that?

Vagrant
11-24-2007, 05:04 PM
i assume they're asking the alcohol content of vodka because they need alcohol to make their own ink, but don't have any isopropyl on hand. So I said drink the vodka and go rack the isopropyl.
But then again I could be wrong..

besides. all you have to do is read the damn bottle. 80 proof is 40% alcohol.

kosher
11-24-2007, 05:11 PM
i see

d_g
11-24-2007, 06:54 PM
dono if this has been asked? i kno that jus a toy would buy paint, but if its montana type goods n krinks behind glass, its ok ta buy it rite? jus saw some montana in berkeley?

msg me please, cus i hate tryna go thro the pages lookin for my post..

Yes, it's usually considered bad ettiquite to rack that sorta paint because the people that are selling it are generally small shops usually making not much money and doing writers a favour by selling the paint.

Oprah
11-25-2007, 12:19 PM
how long does it take you to do a piece in your blackbook, from start to finish background, 3d, colors, etc.?

Spark391
11-25-2007, 02:21 PM
Hello,
I have some questions.

1. How can I do lasergraffiti? Just take a laser and write my tag in dark room with it and it will stay seen in air for sometime or something?
2. I have one marker with dried out tip. What should I do with it? I can't buy a new one anywhere.
3. How much does 1 liter(or gallon) of roller paint cover surface? (like in squeer meters or something)

Spark

Vagrant
11-25-2007, 03:12 PM
oprah: depends on how good you want it to be, and how good you are.

spark:
1) i take it you saw the Graffiti Research Group video? It takes a computer, a projector, image recognition software or something. Way beyond your capabilities.
2) Pull the nib out and soak it in paint thinner or something.
3) Go to the store, pick up a gallon of paint, read the label. It should say somewhere how much it covers in square feet.

Spark391
11-25-2007, 03:19 PM
oprah: depends on how good you want it to be, and how good you are.

spark:
1) i take it you saw the Graffiti Research Group video? It takes a computer, a projector, image recognition software or something. Way beyond your capabilities.
2) Pull the nib out and soak it in paint thinner or something.
3) Go to the store, pick up a gallon of paint, read the label. It should say somewhere how much it covers in square feet.

OK. Thank you very much.

Clowney-Cakes
11-25-2007, 03:59 PM
to anyone who is just starting painting...GET A PLACE TO PRACTICE where no one will see it, this site is here fir a reason, post your shit in the toys thread. just keep asking qustions, people will tell you when your ready for the streets

rave316
11-25-2007, 04:48 PM
One thing i found that is good for practice with spray is that lowes hardware actually sells cement board that are i think ten bucks maybe more but i figure it whould be a good thing to use for practice so your not putting anything bad up on the street and you can spray over it as much as you want. Plus a question, ther is a micheal's opening up in my town is there any good supplies i can get out of that place or no?

sham->
11-25-2007, 06:01 PM
haha,,reaaaally stupid but i tried using hair color spray to practice alittle ona wood board, n its not half bad...i got them for free, lol frends workin the haircolor booth at school n pleaz dont give me crap for this becaus i know its gota strong toyish vibe to it__

Eack
11-25-2007, 06:03 PM
where can u get fire extinguishers and how muhc r they

Sushi! 905
11-25-2007, 06:12 PM
If your still in school. walk into a empty hallway and slide one into your backpack.

Eack
11-25-2007, 06:13 PM
the only fire extinguishers in my skool r in the classes:s

letsg0skate
11-25-2007, 10:28 PM
lol I never thought of stealing a fire extinguisher my school has tons of em

rave316
11-25-2007, 10:59 PM
I know this may sound stupid but i'm gonna ask for knowledge sake what's the use for a fire extinguisher?

letsg0skate
11-25-2007, 11:09 PM
fill it with paint and do some jumbo 15 feet high tags lol youtube it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzuXTLRxeo4

rave316
11-26-2007, 07:03 AM
dude that's freakin sick never thought you could use a fire extinguisher to do that.

Fube
11-26-2007, 08:00 AM
cant use just any fire extinguisher. the classic silver ones work the best.

sago905
11-26-2007, 02:18 PM
they are good for flares too

rave316
11-26-2007, 04:01 PM
Flares?

Vagrant
11-26-2007, 11:35 PM
Flairs:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2177/1864464879_8b1a50fee2.jpg?v=0

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p212/matt13heff/sik7df.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b180/fannypack_/post-42427-1109472528.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o318/mrshee/DSC_0134.jpg

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j57/deko91/santacrew.jpg

Get it yet?
(all stolen from the Flairs thread in the picture gallery forum)

rave316
11-27-2007, 07:27 AM
yeah i get it but how whould you control the spray to get diffrent sized lines?

Maste
11-27-2007, 08:06 AM
so, at home i cannot get onto this site. (im at school) and i have no clue why. its not really a graff related question but does anyone know what i can do to make sure that i can access the site...because wehn i try at home it says access denied and i thought it was the site and not my computer but it works elsewhere

ForOhWun
11-27-2007, 08:55 AM
Maste, use a proxy at school to access blocked sites. i use www.hidethistime.com (http://www.hidethistime.com). !rave its all in the wrist and cap your using, you usually get good flairs with krylon and a ny fat, orange dot, german outline etc. practice

rave316
11-27-2007, 10:37 AM
rave its all in the wrist and cap your using, you usually get good flairs with krylon and a ny fat, orange dot, german outline etc. practice No what i meant was how can you get good line control if your useing a fire extinguisher, though i am grateful for the adivce with the caps if i was useing normal spray cans.

ForOhWun
11-27-2007, 02:03 PM
I never fucked wit a fucking fire extinguisher. lol

Vagrant
11-27-2007, 02:21 PM
personally i think extinguishers are fucking stupid.
whatever you do with them looks like SHIT
you have to put a ton of paint in them
plus you have to carry that thing around when you go out painting?
fuck that.

rave316
11-27-2007, 02:49 PM
I see where your comin from vagrant, cause i don't think you'd want to be slingin around some heavy fire extinguisher while your tryin to get around town, or if your tryin to get away from cops.

Spark391
11-27-2007, 03:34 PM
http://www.okt.ee/pics/tooted/185242.png

Using that kind of material for makeing my stencils, have no paint to test right now.
So im just wondering how long that kind of stencils could last?
And which is the best material to make stenclis from?

RUDE_Bwoy
11-27-2007, 04:08 PM
cardboard

rave316
11-27-2007, 06:48 PM
Really any material you can cut stencils out of and can absorb spray paint without turning soggy.

larrylove420
11-27-2007, 07:14 PM
i never seen these in place of caps. n they dont come off. when they do come off they just break n its impossible to get it out then. someone know anything about this shit?

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/5797/rustoshitjw2.jpg

rave316
11-27-2007, 08:52 PM
are you talking about that tip that is sticking out on the second can?

larrylove420
11-27-2007, 09:02 PM
yeah. haha.
i guess the first can shouldnt be in there.

rave316
11-27-2007, 09:24 PM
could be somethin they built in so that you can't change caps or anythin

sounds"EPIK"
11-27-2007, 10:55 PM
I bought some of that "painters touch", but mine came with a blue cap that spit out real thin lines, same thing happened to me when i tried to take it off.....

Bets369R
11-27-2007, 10:58 PM
its a male can.

Kool-Aid Man
11-27-2007, 11:00 PM
its called a male can only female caps fit it

RUDE_Bwoy
11-28-2007, 04:59 PM
kool aids right.only certain caps work.use wd-40 or axe caps

-Leski
11-28-2007, 05:28 PM
Rust-o is switching to male cans? :O

5Funerals
11-28-2007, 06:53 PM
only on painters touch not on the regular shit.

rave316
11-28-2007, 07:34 PM
Does anyone know of any good supplies you can get out of michael's? cause they are opening one up in my town and i was just wonderin.

letsg0skate
11-28-2007, 10:59 PM
Prismas, Decos, Scribers, Zig Woodcrafts, Razors, random paint markers, martha stewart glue pens that you fill with your own ink or ink from the woodcrafts although it's not that good. Michaels has a lot of stuff just go check it out

Pharoah
11-28-2007, 11:02 PM
do they have staz on at michaels?

Olick
11-28-2007, 11:07 PM
I never fucked wit a fucking fire extinguisher. lol

THIER FUN ASS HELL!!


just spray them and spin in circles and enjoy the lung cancer!!

seriously though. they are fun to play with.

Sintakz
11-28-2007, 11:10 PM
do they have staz on at michaels?

yes

Got Paint?
11-29-2007, 07:53 PM
not really sure if this is the right place but i just made a meanstreak out of a gluestick, ink, crayons, eye black, and artist paint, and a little kitchen oil to keep things from burning. Then i melted it all together and poured it back in the gluestick tube right now im waiting for it to dry. do you guys think this will work

letsg0skate
11-29-2007, 09:48 PM
It will probably work but it will be more like a big crayon then a meanstreak.

imported_big_boss
11-29-2007, 11:33 PM
Crayons and eye black? I think its gonna smell like shit.

tempest
12-01-2007, 08:29 AM
im havin trouble keepin up. can u define simples, flow, stickers(dont get smart, i kno wat one is just not wat the point of them is), meanstreaks(NEW!), flixs? ne1 can answer this, i realized its pretty basic shit. meh, master toy!

d_g
12-01-2007, 04:02 PM
For simples and flow go to the new to graff thread.

Stickers, fast way to get up etc.

Meanstreaks, like semi-dried paint in a stick, when it goes on it kinda looks like a crayon, pretty permanent.

Flix = pictures.

Maste
12-02-2007, 12:09 AM
so, ive got two questions:
1. is there ways to buy giftcards or something like that for bombingscience?
2. why do i all of a sudden need a proxy to get to bombingscience. did my IP get banned? because it is only on this computer (my laptop) that i am not allowed on BS

Ascendant
12-02-2007, 12:14 AM
what works best on postal stickers? will prismas run if it gets wet?

saucy
12-02-2007, 12:49 AM
aite sooo i know u cant use a halo in yer tag unless uve hit a high spot, or a crown unless uve otten all-city king... is there any other rulez like this?

cds_dogg665544
12-02-2007, 12:49 AM
how much does rubbing alchohal cost

Olick
12-02-2007, 12:50 AM
1-2 dollors dependin wear u get it

Olick
12-02-2007, 12:52 AM
so, ive got two questions:
1. is there ways to buy giftcards or something like that for bombingscience?
2. why do i all of a sudden need a proxy to get to bombingscience. did my IP get banned? because it is only on this computer (my laptop) that i am not allowed on BS

yes. but i dont kno if bombing science excepts them. i use vanillavisa gift cards and order off of art primo. those DONT work on bs

and yeah your ip prolly did get banned.

tempest
12-02-2007, 01:51 AM
to check take ur laptop 2 a dif port in ur house, or go to a firends, OR go to a net cafe. then try from there. if that works then ur ip isnt banned ur laptop just doesnt like that port u keep using. make sure its not rejecting it or something. can they do that?

Sintakz
12-02-2007, 03:07 AM
what works best on postal stickers? will prismas run if it gets wet?


Don't bother with prisma's they aren't very fade proof and they don't hold up well in water. Deco's are a step up but again, not fade proof and don't hold up with water all too well. I'm not big into stickers (yet) but I will be soon.

Spark391
12-02-2007, 10:41 AM
What are the best markers for sketching you can get from USA? And how mutch do they cost? I don't live in USA but one of my friends does, put he won't rack them so I need to know the price to. I have heared that prismacolors are good, that you can blend colors n shit with them.

Maste
12-02-2007, 12:54 PM
so, im at a different house using a diffferenrt wireless netwrok and it still wont let me on...aaah without a proxy

Olick
12-02-2007, 01:19 PM
i have to use a proxy cause my ip got banned like 3 times.

and for the sticker question. use clear coat. itll somewhat protect the ink u use.

and for the prismacolors guy. thier good markers but i wouldnt spend like 20 bucks on em. i like "staedtler triplus color" and you can easily blend all sorts of colors easily

T O K E
12-02-2007, 01:27 PM
aite sooo i know u cant use a halo in yer tag unless uve hit a high spot, or a crown unless uve otten all-city king... is there any other rulez like this?

you can do whatever you want, halos are just played out

cds_dogg665544
12-03-2007, 03:26 PM
im gonna try the pen ink recipe thats on the ink thread so if it is purplish how do i make it more black..????

PRico214
12-03-2007, 07:19 PM
ight ight ive been tryn to find this out and i aint get a response from no one----wat kind of markers work good for blackbooks cuz ive been usn sharpies and they streak

Sintakz
12-03-2007, 09:50 PM
im gonna try the pen ink recipe thats on the ink thread so if it is purplish how do i make it more black..????



Potassium Permegante. Solvent Black 7, Solvent Black 5, Black Pigment.

Maste
12-03-2007, 10:58 PM
prico: use prismacolor markers...they are kinda expenisve but work well also olick mentioned on this same page that he uses staedtler triplus color markers instead...i dunno why cause ive never used them and i have yet to check em out...but give it a look...i know both those are better than sharpies

edit: oh and sintaks how about shortening your sig man...its like a whole page of quotes...just an idea cause it kinda sucks to scroll through all the time

Bets369R
12-03-2007, 11:10 PM
prico: use prismacolor markers...they are kinda expenisve but work well also olick mentioned on this same page that he uses staedtler triplus color markers instead...i dunno why cause ive never used them and i have yet to check em out...but give it a look...i know both those are better than sharpies

edit: oh and sintaks how about shortening your sig man...its like a whole page of quotes...just an idea cause it kinda sucks to scroll through all the time

go to user CP>Edit Options>Uncheck show signature box

Sintakz
12-03-2007, 11:17 PM
My sig isn't even that big. PRico's is actually a bit bigger than mine