Toy Questions

[Mo152]

^ you watered down with ink? you water stuff down with water my friend. i think the word you are looking for is diluted.

about the Montana question. if your posting in the toy section, there is no reason what so ever you should be buying/wasting your money on good paint.

[I GOT CLOUT]

Ok, so I dont get it why EVERYONE fucking says "if youre toy you shouldnt be using montana" blah blah blah bullshit. If youre partaking in an art form regardless of talent level, youre going to want to use the highest grade medium. And granted, while you might not be able to use it to its full potential, why should you have to use some shit dollar can? If they want to spend the money on the fucking paint who are you to say they cant. FUCK

edit* No beef Gupe, i'm just saying.

[Hater-AiD~>]

Ok, so I dont get it why EVERYONE fucking says "if youre toy you shouldnt be using montana" blah blah blah bullshit. If youre partaking in an art form regardless of talent level, youre going to want to use the highest grade medium. And granted, while you might not be able to use it to its full potential, why should you have to use some shit dollar can? If they want to spend the money on the fucking paint who are you to say they cant. FUCK

edit* No beef Gupe, i'm just saying.
amen...ive never really looked at it from that perspective before..good point clout
+2 points for you

[RUDE_Bwoy]

really dumb but anyone kno how to refill a pilot

[(SoS)Viruz]

Ok, so I dont get it why EVERYONE fucking says "if youre toy you shouldnt be using montana" blah blah blah bullshit. If youre partaking in an art form regardless of talent level, youre going to want to use the highest grade medium. And granted, while you might not be able to use it to its full potential, why should you have to use some shit dollar can? If they want to spend the money on the fucking paint who are you to say they cant. FUCK

edit* No beef Gupe, i'm just saying.

Shit good point. Everyone really is going to want the best shit to work with not no fuckin $1 worth stuff. Good point Clout.

Rude- Good to the Tool and Tips Section and look for the Marker Thread. Or it might be a Sticky, and post your question their. Someone their might be able to help

[calculating infinity]

really dumb but anyone kno how to refill a pilot

unscrew the black part from the metal body. the cap tells you which way to turn it.

[Thrice]

^ you watered down with ink? you water stuff down with water my friend. i think the word you are looking for is diluted.

about the Montana question. if your posting in the toy section, there is no reason what so ever you should be buying/wasting your money on good paint.

I want to get used to the good shit, and I have damn good can control for my skill level so Im going to keep with it. I can't find too many colors of rusto or krylon around here for some reason either.

[CT08]

What colors do you guys think are the best for brick walls?

[(SoS)Viruz]

Vibrate colors Like Green, A specail type of oragne.

[(SoS)Viruz]

A Wonderin If anyone was willin to teach me a differnt type of Handstyle. Im willin to learn and expand my Learnings in graff.

[intaout]

What colors do you guys think are the best for brick walls?

on brick most colors will stand out,
white pops aight...
just stay away from oranges, browns and reds

[Look@it2x]

in the blackbooks with crazy pieces they use copic, and prismas right?

[(SoS)Viruz]

Yeah, and you should use deco

[FRZ]

My pic and sig arent showing up! Is this becuase im new?

[Thrice]

Are any of these 123 klan pics stupid to get tattooed?
http://i25.tinypic.com/2qbyekn.png
http://i29.tinypic.com/mmtzf6.png
http://i29.tinypic.com/2wf1g5x.png
http://i31.tinypic.com/1zf1szo.png
http://i30.tinypic.com/7237v8.png

[Shiva.]

they're all stupid to get tattooed

[fonone]

this threads so good, you can say the most stupid shit and post whore but noone cares because its the "toy questions thread", golden.

I aRe haF not LikER my WUrd, SHUD i change?

[Thrice]

they're all stupid to get tattooed
Damn, would it be stupid to get something 123 klan tattooed?

[IlikePie]

.... You can't be serious

[I GOT CLOUT]

Thrice...seriously man. Im all for having influences and just diggin certain peoples works...but SHIT. You are dick riding like no other. Just get on your own tip. You will gain a lot more respect.

[Thrice]

I know what you guys are saying, but it's really not that way. My inspiration to write graff is mare 139, i met the fucking guy in person and talked to him for like an hour so give me a break there please. As for influence 123klan is by far my biggest influence.

[I GOT CLOUT]

And dude, like I just said. Im totally for all that. You're just taking it too far. I have many influences, but I dont have their quotes in my sig, and im definately not lookin to get a piece they did tattooed on me. You feel me?

[C3ZR ONE]

Personally, I don't think it's stupid at all. Gesus has tats of Craola and a bunch of other writers shit. I'm getting my own shit tatted on me, but I wouldn't be opposed to getting a Flying Fortress bear or Microbo, or Supakitch, or any other fly shit. It's just a dope picture on your skin.

[I GOT CLOUT]

Thats different though. Those are characters and designs. Not pieces.

[Thrice]

When I was talking about getting something 123 klan tattooed i wasn't talking about their pieces, but their logo productions....these
http://i25.tinypic.com/2qbyekn.png
http://i29.tinypic.com/mmtzf6.png
http://i29.tinypic.com/2wf1g5x.png
http://i31.tinypic.com/1zf1szo.png
http://i30.tinypic.com/7237v8.png

[I GOT CLOUT]

Well do what you're goin to do man. Im in no way trying to tell you what you should be doing with your body.

[Thrice]

Did you check out those links? See what im talking about, not pieces at all. What are your thoughts on those?

[I GOT CLOUT]

They're not something I would choose, but like I said...I'm not trying to tell you what to do. Do YOU son.

[Thrice]

I gotcha, i'll definiately put some more thought into it but getting a piece seemed a little toyish considering what most people said. Just hope this isn't as gay.

[intaout]

personally, i would want an amazing character with quote or message that has influenced me in a tight hand-style

[HoH Envy]

ok i have a two part question
first off the local stores around me seam to only carry lame collars or just verry basic collars of spray cans so is there any place website/etc that you could suggest and what companies

secondly i draw cartoons and still life quite often, but im slightly new to writing so dos any one have tips for developing style i would look at other artist in my community but as far as iv seen theres one other and he uses allot of stencils.

thank you in advance

[klic]

first off the local stores around me seam to only carry lame collars or just verry basic collars of spray cans so is there any place website/etc that you could suggest and what companies

thank you in advance

theres nothing wrong with basic colors but if you really dont like them just order some off the graffiti store on here

[atlok7]

ok i have a two part question
first off the local stores around me seam to only carry lame collars or just verry basic collars of spray cans so is there any place website/etc that you could suggest and what companies

secondly i draw cartoons and still life quite often, but im slightly new to writing so dos any one have tips for developing style i would look at other artist in my community but as far as iv seen theres one other and he uses allot of stencils.

thank you in advance

yo cuzin you can buy paint off this websites store. its kinda pricy but thats how much it usually is unless you steal it. and the best way to develop style is to start simple. just draw straight letters for now untill you have a feel for things/

[HoH Envy]

thanks bro im prob gonna start sketching out some letters now

[HoH Envy]

thanks bro im prob gonna start sketching out some letters and working on my style

[Look@it2x]

Thrice When I was talking about getting something 123 klan tattooed i wasn't talking about their pieces, but their logo productions....these
http://i25.tinypic.com/2qbyekn.png
http://i29.tinypic.com/mmtzf6.png
http://i29.tinypic.com/2wf1g5x.png
http://i31.tinypic.com/1zf1szo.png
http://i30.tinypic.com/7237v8.png

the kid with the marker/ the soildger (i cant spell!!) and the tag is pretty sick



the other ones ...ehh

[Hyperactiveness?]

Me and my friends had a toy battle and we're asking for some votes/crits please.

I know a couple (or actually.. all of us) still need alot of work in the books rather than on the walls. Thanks to any voters/crits

Guile
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/6083/hpim0959uz6.jpg

Sok
http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/8710/hpim0965yh7.jpg

Onedr
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/9418/hpim0966ey6.jpg

Mine (Hiepur)
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/5751/dsc07062kd9.jpg

Thanks again.

[letsgobombin]

hiepur, you definately win, tell your friends to do simples

[sacwacko]

haha, honest, do them a favor. tell them to practice more. haha. sooo funny on one of them...it says "NOT DOPE" and there is an arrow. haha. soooo funny.

[Steez]

haha, honest, do them a favor. tell them to practice more. haha. sooo funny on one of them...it says "NOT DOPE" and there is an arrow. haha. soooo funny.

it says "not done"

[sacwacko]

for real?
haha, my bad. still would have been funny.

[AcosOne]

hey a question: what do you guys think about the montana gold markers? I got a gold one yesterday, but do you guys think it was worth the money?

[(SoS)Viruz]

Hiepur-Love it. it's Nice. Tell your freinds to do simps. Like yours. Not that Crazy stuff. But good job.

[FLIP FLOP]

can you put homemade krink in otr markers?

[calculating infinity]

acos- not worth the money, you can steal a marker or make a mop just like it and buy better ink that will last a lot longer for just a few more dollars than that.

flipflop- no GK is just thinned paint and will not flow through the nib of a marker.

[Hyperactiveness?]

Thanks again y'all.

[CT08]

Alright guys i was just wondering, what relation to Indie does cope2 have? I just saw their bomb in italy last week.

[cds_dogg665544]

they are both in gta4

And will black oil based woodstain fade ??

[(SoS) Flu]

im thinking about changing my name because Flu to me in my head i just cant be creative with it.

[Thrice]

Ya mathematically it doesn't give you alot of room to do much. Did you have any other names in mind?

[sirbrwn7]

wat is karacks??

[(SoS) Flu]

i was thinking viruz because my friend that had that changed it and i always like the name viruz. but im not sure any suggestions? has to be a sickness like you ( nausea Hepatitis ) etc.

[MZUNGU]

well besides the fact that virus is king'd in canada and is a prominent graffiti writer, and that you'll get harassed and mocked.... you could do it... i wouldnt tho

[(SoS) Flu]

lol yeah any other ideas for a new name?

[emel]

you should just stop writing

[jd1]

I just racked the brand Porcelaine (paint pens) from Michaels. Will these look sick?

[calculating infinity]

it depends on what you do with them.

(sos) - why not ecoli or something fun like that?

[jd1]

the tip is fucking smaller than a sharpie tho :/

i'm thinking it was a waste of energy to rack these

[beyondyereyes]

Alright so i'm having a problem with my prismas. How can I get a large area colored without having blotches of color overlapping and making certain areas darker?

[calculating infinity]

theres a section in the new to graffiti thread about coloring in and it tells you how to avoid that.
pretty much just color in up and down and left to right. then everything is even.

[(SoS)Viruz]

Yo Flu you SHIT. Take Viruz. It nice And I dont even write that Anymore and plus I saw you write it, it looks dope.

[Mo152]

^ your such a tool dude.

karacks are characters.

jd, if you want to know if the pens are sick use them, don't come on here flaunting how you racked pens, if you really even did. simple as that.

[shun]

im a toy with a question, so i guess this is the right place to ask, but to anyone who has ordered from the bombingscience shop, what does the package look like. reason i ask is i dont want my mom seeing some big package with "Bombing Science: GRAFFITI SUPPLIES" or something on the package. thanks

[Mo152]

why dont you just get the package when the mail comes?

[calculating infinity]

it looks like mail

[shun]

i can't control when the mail comes... or if my mom will get it before me... thats why i asked. but thanks for the help anyway douchebags...

[letsgobombin]

why dont you get it sent to someone elses house?

[shun]

interesting idea. fuck it, im just gonna buy something and find out.

[letsgobombin]

ye, you could try easing your mum into graffiti, show her something clever then say how thats related to proper graffiti, then show her some amazing pieces and then just show her how dedicated you are. you do this over months though. or if your parents are split your dad is normally cooler with it so get him to get like a can or something and just use it on a board, when they see that you're ok they'll realise that they cant stop you.

[shun]

thanks letsgobombin. im 18, so there really isnt a problem, just the less she knows about my various "criminal" activities the better ya dig. she is already into graffiti, and would have no problem with me doing it legally, but the illegal and dangerous aspects is where she gets motherly. if i knew of a nearby graff shop i would be gold. im shocked there arent more in orange county

[klic]

im a toy with a question, so i guess this is the right place to ask, but to anyone who has ordered from the bombingscience shop, what does the package look like. reason i ask is i dont want my mom seeing some big package with "Bombing Science: GRAFFITI SUPPLIES" or something on the package. thanks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDnqwMbYL5k

i dont think it comes in a bombin science box or anything maybe this will help

[cds_dogg665544]

any one know how to make homemade inks not fade... besides using fiebings cus i cant get it here and there is no rusto or nothing here and im really pissed off

[Spark391]

My description sound retarded but oh well.. I saw a guy doing realy high pieces with no ladder, he had a spraycan taped on top of a big stick or something. Anybody know how it works or has any tutorials how to make it? Im confused about what system he used for pressing the cap down and getting the lines where he wanted.

[bountyhunter113]

hah that's weird^

hey, can someone tell me, how can i tell the difference from an NY fat and an NY thin just by looking at them?......coz they look the same to me

[Shiva.]

the Fats have wider ridges than the Thins. Also, the very center of the dot looks a little different. But the ridges are the easiest way to tell them apart.

[bountyhunter113]

are the ridges a whole ton wider? or just a little bit?

[letsgobombin]

My description sound retarded but oh well.. I saw a guy doing realy high pieces with no ladder, he had a spraycan taped on top of a big stick or something. Anybody know how it works or has any tutorials how to make it? Im confused about what system he used for pressing the cap down and getting the lines where he wanted.
http://www.instructables.com/id/The-High-Writer/
and
http://www.instructables.com/id/The-spraycan-and-Paint-Roller-Extension/

[cds_dogg665544]

i went to the store days ago to get exterior woodstain but it only comes in gallons and cost 31 dollas wich i dont want a whole fuckin gallon and i dont wanna spend 31 dolla

so what would be an easy way to make homemade ink that dont fade

btw people in the ink thread dont usually answer

[Shiva.]

are the ridges a whole ton wider? or just a little bit?

when you have them both, it's easy to see te difference. but when you don't use them a lot you may make a mistake sometimes.

[FRZ]

Right i have a problem, I have only been graffiting for a little while and i have only put up a few little tags and 3 small stencils. Now i wanted to keep it so nobody knew who that it was me and tonight i was out and got caught by my friend doing it so now he knows its me and i know he will tell people and that it will get around that its me. So should i find a new name and start fresh bcoz i have only done a few things or just stay with my current name?

[Shiva.]

nice friends you have...
how the hell can you get caught by a friend?
whatever, slap him in the face, hold a gun to his head, and tell him not to tell anyone.
or change your name.

[Dr.evil]

make him tell everyone, thats some clout for you haha, the bitches will be all over you, just stick with the name and ride the wave

[Spark391]

letsgobombin thank ya. gonna build me one.
Anybody know an e-store where you can get blank hats with cheap price in usa?

[P-love]

ok, so ive been writing for like a year, little less, but im getting sick of doing simples and stuff. i havent been able to find any tutorials on extensions/wildstyles/more complicated stuff. you guys have anytips on how to do that stuff? ive been experimenting with the last two pieces ive done but it doesnt really look too good.

[Mo152]

its because you rnot good at the letters, and despite what you think, its not the arrows or extensions that make a piece look good.

[Dr.evil]

ok, so ive been writing for like a year, little less, but im getting sick of doing simples and stuff. i havent been able to find any tutorials on extensions/wildstyles/more complicated stuff. you guys have anytips on how to do that stuff? ive been experimenting with the last two pieces ive done but it doesnt really look too good.


well seince your a young kid, dont look at any other graffiti to intesly, glace at some things, like letter structure and maybe a few colour schemes, and thats it, then turn ur computer off turn music on, and do graffiti in ur book untill you get so frustrated that u have to stop. then do it the next day, and the day after that and so on, if u keep looking at shit on the internet, u see sooo many differnt styles that your style that u origionaly have goes right out the window, and ur style turns into mush of everyone elses,. when u finally learn how to sketch without turning ur book upside down or to the side to do a line, and when ur lines start to not get wobbely then maybe take another few looks at graffiti , when u start to do ur sketch, look at every aspect of it not just the Letters themselves, but look at it as a whole, i mean look at which way ur 3d is gunna point on the very first letter you do, if u look at some good pieces, you see that the 3d wasnt just thrown in there at the last minut but people use it to encourperate with their space. and remember sketch all the time, make it so if ur on the phone with ur grandma ur minnlessly sketching on some news paper or the cloth that covers ur table, once its in ur head so hard and that ur always thinking of new things, u might just be suprised to see that u made ur very own extensions, fuck tutorials fuck all that. it matters how YOU progress,,

[P-love]

its because you rnot good at the letters, and despite what you think, its not the arrows or extensions that make a piece look good.

ok well im not implying that the arrows or extensions are what make a piece look good, i was just asking how to take it to the next step type of deal. i can only do so many simples with different color schemes but believe me, ive tried like 10 different styles or attempted at least so its not like im doing the same piece over and over again with a different fill. i just dont really know where to go from here ya know...

[Chump]

Whats the best type of Paint Pen to use when doing a canvas ?

[letsgobombin]

ok well im not implying that the arrows or extensions are what make a piece look good, i was just asking how to take it to the next step type of deal. i can only do so many simples with different color schemes but believe me, ive tried like 10 different styles or attempted at least so its not like im doing the same piece over and over again with a different fill. i just dont really know where to go from here ya know...
post some of your stuff and we will decide if you're a kid who isn't doing it for the right reasons or someone who is actually good at simples. Chances are that you're the former considering you're asking for a tutorial for wildstyle. stick with simples and you'll find your own style, when you start you dont realise their are thousands of styles
chump- what markers can you easily get because its hard for me, personally, to find decent paint markers where i live, i just use what i can find

[cds_dogg665544]

how long will it take for my oil based exterior paint to fade?

[(SoS)Viruz]

About 4-5 Years.

[HëRbN]

Whats the best type of Paint Pen to use when doing a canvas ?


i would say a Decocolor but thats just me, except for the white ones cause the xylene can smear other paint into the white. Sharpie poster paints arent to bad either as long as your not worried about them holding up outside

[cds_dogg665544]

About 4-5 Years.

holy shyte! serious thats crazy nukka:cool:

[MilkyCanvas]

Hey guys.
So I've been writing for maybe 2 months...
And I have a problem.

My problem is with tagging. I'm scared. I still do it sometimes, but I don't like to. I get worried that the cops will be called on me. That someone will see me, not say anything, and a cop will roll around the corner and stop me because I'm a "suspect". It's not that hard to describe my physical appearance. Trust me.

I also have this fear that while I'm hitting something up, a cop will come around randomly in traffic and see me.

How do I get over this shit? I'm tired of it. Oh, did I forget to mention that theres only a population of about 45,000 people in my town?

[Dying to live]

harden the fuck up. pretty simple

nah but really umm just start in chill spots then work your way out to more heated spotts

[Shiva.]

take someone with you (someone you trust)

[FLIP FLOP]

practice til you can do your tag so quick that no1 will notice. as for bigger stuff just go to chill spots.

[blue.steel]

Anybody know an e-store where you can get blank hats with cheap price in usa?
dose any one know????

[Hater-AiD~>]

dose any one know????
not trying to be an asshole..but google is something that can sometimes answer all of your questions that arent too detailed
i put "buy blank hats" in google
and this is the first site that came up
http://www.blankcaps.com/
they are like 1.19+ depending on the style

[(SoS)Viruz]

A yo guys.... I this might be a silly question but I was wondering, see Im makin a Graff. Myspace, and I was wonderin what
"Should I put up thier" and Stuff "I should put up thier" (beside the art and stuff.)

-Sorry about the double post....

[remos]

nothing that can be traced to you

[(SoS)Viruz]

Like Pics of my Face, ID diffentaly.

[Mo152]

why dose you graff need its own myspace?

[crevette]

Each time I want to post a picture on a forum I do everything correctly I go to image shack, I resize the picture, then I copy the direct link to image, then I got to the forum, click reply click on the image icon, I paste the link, but when I preview it or I post it, it comes up as a little square with a red X in it. Any help would be appreciated, thanks.

[Shiva.]

why don't you resize the picture before you upload the picture?
whatever, i'm not god, i don't know what the problem is. i think you're just making a stupid mistake every time.

[Fube]

Each time I want to post a picture on a forum I do everything correctly I go to image shack, I resize the picture, then I copy the direct link to image, then I got to the forum, click reply click on the image icon, I paste the link, but when I preview it or I post it, it comes up as a little square with a red X in it. Any help would be appreciated, thanks.

ditch image shack, get photobucket. each time u upload a flick it gives u 3 ways to post,

one in html for myspace and websites,

one in forum with the img tags on it, and

one direct link.

copy the one with the image tags, post it.

[MilkyCanvas]

How do you guys deal with your paranoia of daytime writing?
How'd you get over it?

What would you do if you tagged something and half a mile down the road you hear sirens?

[sheltr]

bro daytime writing isnt the best idea to do anyway, sure marker tagging in random house filled streets is fine, like neighborhoods and stuff is alright but dont do it unless its a chill spot and such. and if u do daytime writing, make sure know one is around, thats how i 'got over the paranoia'

and also, dont worry if theres sirens half mile down the road, the pigs wouldnt put sirens on if they see u tag something in the day, if its a chill spot freak out if theres the shit when their sirens go like *woop woop*, yeah very elaborate i know but hey. but yeah dont worry if theres sirens, but if ur still paranoid, run i guess and pretend to catch a bus so u dont look stupid

i dunno, my long 2 cents

[crevette]

Nice, photobucket worked and the editing tool is useful too.
Thanks.

[cds_dogg665544]

my bros Do em dirty Mop aint flowing proper will it a affect if he takes the penis thing?

[MilkyCanvas]

bro daytime writing isnt the best idea to do anyway, sure marker tagging in random house filled streets is fine, like neighborhoods and stuff is alright but dont do it unless its a chill spot and such. and if u do daytime writing, make sure know one is around, thats how i 'got over the paranoia'

and also, dont worry if theres sirens half mile down the road, the pigs wouldnt put sirens on if they see u tag something in the day, if its a chill spot freak out if theres the shit when their sirens go like *woop woop*, yeah very elaborate i know but hey. but yeah dont worry if theres sirens, but if ur still paranoid, run i guess and pretend to catch a bus so u dont look stupid

i dunno, my long 2 centsThanks haha. I know what you mean by the "woop woop".

Just one more question though. IF I am spotted tagging, and someone calls the cops on me WITHOUT me knowing, (so I'm in no immediate hurry, just casually walking on the sidewalk) and then a cop rolls up on me because I look like a suspect taht the caller described....

What can he do to me?
Can he search me? Can he just arrest me? What? Those questions are what are bothering me the most.

[Dream Creation]

ddd

[session-one]

Thanks haha. I know what you mean by the "woop woop".

Just one more question though. IF I am spotted tagging, and someone calls the cops on me WITHOUT me knowing, (so I'm in no immediate hurry, just casually walking on the sidewalk) and then a cop rolls up on me because I look like a suspect taht the caller described....

What can he do to me?
Can he search me? Can he just arrest me? What? Those questions are what are bothering me the most.

when i first started writin i was toy enough to bomb in this one spot in the daytime and without gloves someone called the cops and reported me without me knowing and they rolled uop on my ass and jus cuffed me and booked me as soon as they saw paint on my fingers
he was givin me shit si i pled guilty to just get it over with
either way they will cuff you and throw u around and prolly tkae you down to tyhe precint





also i was wonderin where you guys get ideas for your fills
i always think mine are lacking or boring any tips or staple parts of fills?

[Shiva.]

yeah, fills.. mine suck..

[mekosbc]

i cant seem to get a good flare tag up.... any tips?

[remos]

when i first started writin i was toy enough to bomb in this one spot in the daytime and without gloves someone called the cops and reported me without me knowing and they rolled uop on my ass and jus cuffed me and booked me as soon as they saw paint on my fingers
he was givin me shit si i pled guilty to just get it over with
either way they will cuff you and throw u around and prolly tkae you down to tyhe precint





also i was wonderin where you guys get ideas for your fills
i always think mine are lacking or boring any tips or staple parts of fills?

they caught you just like that?
anyway just practise with simple one colour until you have those down then get more complex and shit
mine are still bad....

[(SoS)Viruz]

Im not in the System but so if I leave prits they'll never know. But damn that suk kid.

[session-one]

they caught you just like that?
anyway just practise with simple one colour until you have those down then get more complex and shit
mine are still bad....

yeah pretty much they just cuffed me an i said i wasnt doin anything and then i was like fuck it
im like one of 3 white kids in this entire part of the city and im the only one with paint on my hands
so i just told em i did it.
anyways fills anyone?
pretty please?

[Shiva.]

i cant seem to get a good flare tag up.... any tips?

use your wrists and move the can away from the wall.
you'll also have to design a tag that will look good with flares

and don't use annoying colours

[Dying to live]

yeah pretty much they just cuffed me an i said i wasnt doin anything and then i was like fuck it
im like one of 3 white kids in this entire part of the city and im the only one with paint on my hands
so i just told em i did it.
anyways fills anyone?
pretty please?
just look at other peoples fills every one does it.

[Keke]

I need some help, I made some Ghetto Krink, i mixed paint thinner , with paint, right? i used 2/3 Paint
1/3 Paint Thinner
Now here is my problem, I look at the gatorade bottle (cliche'?) and i see silver at the bottom and some brown crap at the top.
and the same thing with all my mops that i can see through, but if i shake my mops up i can still write, what is this? is this the paint thinner not mixing with the paint, why? oil based paint, oil pasted thinner(right?) i used generic paint thinner and Rust-o-leum "chrome" paint. help me please, thanks

[(SoS)Viruz]

IT msotly like the paint thinner or Its you Krinkk Reacting to the Paint thinner and the paint mixture.

[remos]

hey does anyone know if the online store here ships paint to canada?

[cds_dogg665544]

how come my Ghetto krink is qiute easy to scrape off and doesnt dry for a whole fucking day. i got exterior oil based paint from da store but dont have no thinner but it comes out cus i got a window chalk mop.

i did a tag on a wood thing in my back yard yester day and today i scraped it and it was stickyish:(

[Noddles912300]

I think it scrapes off because it isnt thin enough on the wall. The paint is probobly built up on the wall making it easier to scrape off.

[Melting Young Minds]

when doing peices, what is the best cap to use of outlines?

[(SoS)Viruz]

A Guys I went to the dollar store today and to my suprise they sell Spray paint!!!!!

[Shiva.]

good question

[endo702]

does anyone know how to blend paint

[FLSteele16]

Is the only place to get caps online?

[Sarto]

flsteele - see if theirs a graff shop in ur area.
theyd have caps.

[smooth_nuts]

I need some help, I made some Ghetto Krink, i mixed paint thinner , with paint, right? i used 2/3 Paint
1/3 Paint Thinner
Now here is my problem, I look at the gatorade bottle (cliche'?) and i see silver at the bottom and some brown crap at the top.
and the same thing with all my mops that i can see through, but if i shake my mops up i can still write, what is this? is this the paint thinner not mixing with the paint, why? oil based paint, oil pasted thinner(right?) i used generic paint thinner and Rust-o-leum "chrome" paint. help me please, thanks

when its sits for a long time the paint thinner seperates from the paint...

dollar store paint is garbage except for crome its the only color that'll cover,any brand of crome will cover

banana skinnies for outlines and gold dots for small details...what i use

you can rack caps like rusto fats ny fats ny thin german thins and calig caps of most spray glue/paint cans at wallmart

i normaly bite my fills(not like it matters its just colors)or just use one color...im retarded when it comes to color skemes haha

[(SoS)Viruz]

Same Bro, but see I got my Paint for the Dollar store just to practice cause I really dont even pain all like that. So it be a good start. but is it as permanet as the real deal paint?

[*Spectone*]

nope its crappy as shit dude..sometimes the paint doesnt even show that much..so just stick 2 the real thing

[Case-One]

go to walmart for all your paint needs man, even if ya don't rack just switch the sticker with a cheaper product next to it, works every time, i do that shit when i'm standing next to people who work there their fuckin clueless, but the permanancey of your paint depends on the extra ingredients you add to it, brake fluid for instance, it's all about fucking around with different chemicals

[Case-One]

it's totally worthing droping the extra couple bucks, more paint better quality, its just better

[smooth_nuts]

Same Bro, but see I got my Paint for the Dollar store just to practice cause I really dont even pain all like that. So it be a good start. but is it as permanet as the real deal paint?

its realy really really watery....if your just gonna use it to like pratice on a board or some shit it'll be fien as long as you shake it up...sep crome dollar cans...

[Haze..]

does anyone know how to blend paint

theres tuts of it in the tools &tips


Is the only place to get caps online?

no, almost all graffiti stores online sell caps


when its sits for a long time the paint thinner seperates from the paint...

dollar store paint is garbage except for crome its the only color that'll cover,any brand of crome will cover

banana skinnies for outlines and gold dots for small details...what i use

you can rack caps like rusto fats ny fats ny thin german thins and calig caps of most spray glue/paint cans at wallmart

i normaly bite my fills(not like it matters its just colors)or just use one color...im retarded when it comes to color skemes haha

the brown stuff probably is stuff left over in the gatoraide cause you didnt wash it out.

[Look@it2x]

how do you clean your caps???

[Keke]

get graff remover that is in a spray can. put your cap on and spray . outside , away from your face

[letsgobombin]

has anyone found that the paint is more misty on cheap paint?

[(SoS)Viruz]

Yo I need help with the online store like how would I pay for it and stuff, pay pal, or would I pay it dirctily when the deliver it?

[Look@it2x]

Keke
get graff remover that is in a spray can. put your cap on and spray . outside , away from your face

thanks bro

[klic]

i know you should never do graff on cars and stuff but ive seen a lot of bombs and shit on fedex trucks and stuff.
i was just wondering what the rule was for bigger trucks like 18 wheelers and stuff

[Tokenkaligreens]

Bomb away. Just dont go hiting up on people own rides man now tht would be total shit....unless said person did something that deserved it.

[FLSteele16]

So if you go out and bomb up a spot is it sketchy to go back the next day to take a pic?

[Tokenkaligreens]

it all depends on the spot, is it in the open on a busy street or kinda a low traffic area, does it get bombed alot or were you the 1st. Also its not illegal to take pics, just do it if someone asks just feed' me some bullshit story of why your taking pics even tho its none of there bussiness anyway. I never sketch on taking pics but thats just me. One think tho is dont get caught red handed you know what i mean taking pics of a crome and balck throwy while your hands and sleeves are crome and black may not be the best idea lol.

[Haze..]

how do you clean your caps???

soak them in paint thinner


has anyone found that the paint is more misty on cheap paint?

no shit, its ow pressure and thin


Yo I need help with the online store like how would I pay for it and stuff, pay pal, or would I pay it dirctily when the deliver it?

if you had a visa or master card you would use paypal, if you dont you have to send the money directly to them.


i know you should never do graff on cars and stuff but ive seen a lot of bombs and shit on fedex trucks and stuff.
i was just wondering what the rule was for bigger trucks like 18 wheelers and stuff

if its PERSONAL property dont do it, but fedex trucks are a corporation, so its fine.

So if you go out and bomb up a spot is it sketchy to go back the next day to take a pic?

they cant do anything to you for taking pictures unless your tresspassing.

[RUDE_Bwoy]

i know you should never do graff on cars and stuff but ive seen a lot of bombs and shit on fedex trucks and stuff.
i was just wondering what the rule was for bigger trucks like 18 wheelers and stuff

destroy them

[FLSteele16]

whens the best time to get up?

[RUDE_Bwoy]

early sunday morning.just watch out for church goers

[Haze..]

whens the best time to get up?

go at like 2 on a sunday, dont stay out past 4, they get new cops then

[(SoS)Viruz]

A Haze do you have to be 18??? For them to ship stuff to you?

[noxi]

No

[FLSteele16]

Hey are the NY thins and the NY fats good caps?

[GaZm13]

YES!!! The Fats are great for throwies.

[FLSteele16]

Can you order off this site without a credit card?

[(SoS)Viruz]

From what Haze told me you can, you'r just going to have to pay them Directly.

[Wallace]

whats the best time to go paint at a rail yard, like when all the workers leave?

[hammer_time]

if you cant answer that or figure out a procedure to help you formulate an answer, please dont go anywhere near trains, mostly for your safety..

[(SoS)Viruz]

Yeah Wallace it dangerous we lost 2 ppl from Train accidents.

[cans905]

if u can find a part in the train depot where they store the trains, and no workers are around u can paint, but other than that, wait till it closes

either way, always be careful at the tracks

[letsgobombin]

anyone know about UK laws? like can you still not consent to a search on your bag but you can be frisked? also, im underaged for spray paint, what the worst they could do? and do they have the 'tools for graffiti' thing if they find caps?

[Wallace]

if you cant answer that or figure out a procedure to help you formulate an answer, please dont go anywhere near trains, mostly for your safety..
i know how i would, been in train yards before... this one is 40 minutes away i just don't want to waste time going up there just to scope it out a couple nights. but it looks like thats what ill have to do

Yeah Wallace it dangerous we lost 2 ppl from Train accidents.
im aware

[hammer_time]

sounds perfect, i will tell you this, if they have security guard or "bull", he'll probably be driving a non police related vehicle, the ones here are a red chevy equinox and a blue-ish dodge caravan

[sketch3]

iv got a question for hammer




how come u never make eye contat during lovemaking?
is it becuase iv put on weight or i there somone else

[hammer_time]

ok.....

i have self esteem issues

[C3ZR ONE]

We've got a guy on a 4-wheeler and a trailblazer, but I've been told the Blazer isn't actually with the rail company, but he's affiliated in some way cuzz he's up and down the tracks all day doing something. The 4 wheelers freak me out tho. How the fuck you run from a 4wheeler. I don't even go to the yards anymore, but I miss it. I used to have fuckin VIP parking right by the layup (for work..i know that's cheating. ha)

what would the guy in the Blazer be doing if he isn't Rail Company? And how come tankers aren't more popular? Cuzz they don't travel as far?

[letsgobombin]

anyone know about UK laws? like can you still not consent to a search on your bag but you can be frisked? also, im underaged for spray paint, what the worst they could do? and do they have the 'tools for graffiti' thing if they find caps? sorry for bumping but i need to know for next week

[Hater-AiD~>]

iv got a question for hammer




how come u never make eye contat during lovemaking?
is it becuase iv put on weight or i there somone else

hardy har har

[hammer_time]

We've got a guy on a 4-wheeler and a trailblazer, but I've been told the Blazer isn't actually with the rail company, but he's affiliated in some way cuzz he's up and down the tracks all day doing something. The 4 wheelers freak me out tho. How the fuck you run from a 4wheeler. I don't even go to the yards anymore, but I miss it. I used to have fuckin VIP parking right by the layup (for work..i know that's cheating. ha)

what would the guy in the Blazer be doing if he isn't Rail Company? And how come tankers aren't more popular? Cuzz they don't travel as far?

maybe the security is outsourced to a local security company? ive seen that happen in smaller towns. It would def. suck to have to run from a 4 wheeler, i guess you could hide in some super thick underbrush.
tankers, im not sure about this, some do travel quite far, i think it has more to do with the angle of the tank part of the car....
in order to stand close enough to paint them, you are pretty much under it.(if that makes sense, walk up to one and maybe youll see what im sayin) how awkward they are is the only reason i can think of...but as all the great freight cars are hunted down for their smooth sides, and low to ground stance, im sure they will become more popular.

[freka]

whats the best way to do a track side ? i see some big peices that must take hours but when im on the same tracks as where the peices are trains are comin every 2-5 mins so ive only ever had time for a quick tag

[Haze..]

whats the best time to go paint at a rail yard, like when all the workers leave?

go at like 1 or 2 am, when the gaurds are tired


anyone know about UK laws? like can you still not consent to a search on your bag but you can be frisked? also, im underaged for spray paint, what the worst they could do? and do they have the 'tools for graffiti' thing if they find caps?

if you had caps, argue that no damage could actually be done with them, if your tresspassing in anyway they WILL search you, and the worst they could do for spray paint is the graffiti tools charge

[Haze..]

whats the best way to do a track side ? i see some big peices that must take hours but when im on the same tracks as where the peices are trains are comin every 2-5 mins so ive only ever had time for a quick tag

you do relise its not always the same trains trackside right?

[SenTheFirst]

im about to paint my friends skateshop

what should i do about overspray?

Like, should everything be covered?
its pretty small, like 20x50 or 60

[bowchicabowow]

What are general rules on dissed pieces, like if a nice piece gets dissed by some no respect cum rag, say he writes abel, is it ok to go over the rest of the piece, or should it remain respected?

[freka]

you do relise its not always the same trains trackside right?

yea but bin looking at the tracks and heres trains back wards and forwards all the time never a break bigger than 5 mins so how are these peices done ?

[408Bomber]

Yo everyone, 408bomber here..i kno dis a dumb ass question..but can some writiers here on da site help me come up wit a unique name? =\.

[Thrice]

I plan on buying a repsirator (3m most likely) and i have no idea what size to get. (small or medium) anyone got any tips as of picking the right size respirator?

[numberonestunna]

i have one and they are really adjustable. id prolly go with the medium in case your face swells up.

[iVIBE]

408, a name will come to you just dont force it

yea any resp pretty much works I have the 3m and it fits my face and my friend who is about 5 feet tall lol so whatever you feel is right

[respERATION]

hahaha erm...is there a sticker exchange thread on here??

cause i'd love to get down with some :)

[iVIBE]

umm, just check out the toy exchange thread down below

[RUDE_Bwoy]

I plan on buying a repsirator (3m most likely) and i have no idea what size to get. (small or medium) anyone got any tips as of picking the right size respirator?

get a medium and if its too big theres usually a strap so you can tighten it

[Haze..]

fuck respirators. you only really need one if your painting in doors, otherwise jus put a flag over your face or a tshirt. i prefer surgical masks, 50 sergical masks take up less space than 1 resp and cost soooooooo much less

wow. you are really, really fucking stupid. surgical masks do nothing but trap fumes INSIDE of them. fail.

[Scratch]

hey

so my lines have been mad drippy lately and it kind of blows

no matter how fast i do the line at one point or another it still drips

now in case it matters, it was dripping a lot using NY Fats and Thins. The paint I'm using is Krylon, which I've heard is drippy and too liquidy, so I hope its just that.

help?

[numberonestunna]

hey scratch go with rustoleum and watch how close the can is to the wall. the type of surface you do sometimes makes a diff. the smoother surface you have the more likely to drip...i think..

[calculating infinity]

so i guess you know something a couple hundred thousand asians dont. go suck a dick
youre out of your mind if you think that smog=paint fumes. wearing s surgical mask will block out the actual paint particles but you still have all the propellant (which is actually even more terrible for you) going right through those big ass holes in your mask. whether youre painting inside or outside you should wear a mask if youre going to be painting for any extended amount of time. if you choose not to, along with brain damage, have fun pissing every five minutes because your renal system is raped from all the fumes.

TL;DR wear a real respirator, yes it is worth the racking/buying

[IlikePie]

Just let the kid go and fuck up his nervous system so he can piss himself when he sleeps.

[hammer_time]

Just let the kid go and fuck up his nervous system so he can piss himself when he sleeps.

not gonna happen....
only 1 or 2 people on this site will paint for the amount of time it would take to even have a chance to do ANY little amount of damage...

[Hater-AiD~>]

what is the best material to use as a practice board?

[sterf]

glass

[hammer_time]

dry wall is ok for a little while, water and paint will will eventually ruin it, but its cheap....
plywood, if you get some house paint and roll it out a couple times....
the house i live in has a metal corrugated shed which is pretty good...

[Hater-AiD~>]

where would you suggest purchasing these?

[I GOT CLOUT]

Any lowes or home depot.

[Hater-AiD~>]

ok..last question..do they come in certain sizes? can you have them cut or anything?

[I GOT CLOUT]

Well I dont know if theyll cut it to your size at the store, but they come in pretty decent sizes. You might have to bring a truck with you so you can just load the shit in the bed.

[Hater-AiD~>]

preciate it homie..ill borrow my uncs truck sometime next week

[freshair]

yes 1 question.....

....whos up for battling...alotta talk little action.....

hahahaha asshole

[BadUncing69]

some good stuff for practicing on if your really cheap is to take some garbage bags and cut them open and then taping them to a wall somewhere and then writing on that

[BadUncing69]

sheet metel is great but it rusts

[calculating infinity]

just go look under bridges until you find one with a wall area large enough to paint on

[cds_dogg665544]

i heard today that Tremclad paint is a Canadian version of Rusto and that they work the same is this true? btw ive never been able to find Rusto in my town or used any

[Spraycan Stories]

If there is someone that writes the same name as you on this website, but you have a completely different style and your not biting is it okay to post your stuff?

[RUDE_Bwoy]

depends how good you are as oppossed to them

[Hater-AiD~>]

If there is someone that writes the same name as you on this website, but you have a completely different style and your not biting is it okay to post your stuff?
there are writers with duplicate names everywhere..its hard to find a name that hasnt been used yet so I wouldnt worry about it unless they lived in the same state as you or if they are legendary

[cds_dogg665544]

:confused:
i heard today that Tremclad paint is a Canadian version of Rusto and that they work the same is this true? btw ive never been able to find Rusto in my town or used any

:confused:

[CakeWalk99]

I am sure that this has been posted a thousand times, so I am sorry if it has. Anyway, Are the NY Caps pretty legit? I am thinking about buying a gang of the fat caps and skinny guys. I picked up some walmart spray paint and want to try these caps. Again: I am sorry if this has been posted.

[iVIBE]

YES!!! they are hella legit. My opinion tho, dont waste them on wal mart paint unless you dont care how many you go thru

[CakeWalk99]

They are pretty cheap compared to other Paint........There is an art store in my city that has Montana gold for around $9 with tax and everything. I just picked up a respirator and plan on painting in a huge storm drain that goes under neath my neighborhood......its HUGE. Moral to my story: I would rather paint somewhere where no one will notice it and use cheap paint to practice with. I would rather get some skill instead of going out around town and paintin'.

[iVIBE]

Oh ok, yea thats a good idea, but for the montana I would rack that shit homie chances are that store doesnt have real cameras or security and I aint givin up 9 bucks a can

[ClaimRSM]

Alright.
I've been interested in graff and want to start writing.
problem is I don't know where to start.
What should I practice? Handstyle? I don't know where to start or what to start practicing on.
I have trouble trying to make my tag it's where i've tried starting.

Can anyone tell me what to start practicing/working on.
and tips on making a tag.

[cans905]

claimrsm- read the new to graff thread... it has everything ull ever need to know about starting to write
to start, pick a name that u like and grab a stack of paper and start writing ur name over and over again until u develop enough style to make a decent tag

[Hater-AiD~>]

Alright.
I've been interested in graff and want to start writing.
problem is I don't know where to start.
What should I practice? Handstyle? I don't know where to start or what to start practicing on.
I have trouble trying to make my tag it's where i've tried starting.

Can anyone tell me what to start practicing/working on.
and tips on making a tag.

pick yourself a name..start with your handstyle..just keep everything real simple for now and also pay close attention to the new to graff thread...a lot of the questions you will have pop up can be answered there...my first time writing i practiced my handstyle for hours on hours..then moved to throwies..then moved to pieces

[ClaimRSM]

To start developing my handstyle I gotta start writing out my name simple right?
so just writing keyboard fonts and shit or what?
is there a way I'm supposed to write it?

So basically write my name OVER AND OVER again till i develop some style to make a decent tag?

[SAID]

yes boss!
practice makes perfect.
try and look at other tags and try and get the flow going with your name if you know what i mean. just keep repeating and repeating and repeating.

[(SoS)Viruz]

Yo Guys for Ghetto Jomoboo. How much paint thinner should I add. Like How Thin should the paint be?

[Wallace]

junobo*

depends on the paint, you definitely dont want it too thin. a normal is 1/3 but for some bucket paint you don't even need that much.

[mekosbc]

yo claimz.... simple style tagz are the way to start but try not to like space the letterz in the tag mad far apart it lookz mad weird... there is a few ppl on the toy tagz that do that... but yeah start simple

[RUDE_Bwoy]

Yo Guys for Ghetto Jomoboo. How much paint thinner should I add. Like How Thin should the paint be?

2/3 acrilyic paint
1/3 water

[bowchicabowow]

2/3 acrilyic paint
1/3 water
I thought that you were never supposed to mix water and paint?

[Baron]

2/3 acrilyic paint
1/3 water

Thats not junobo. Junobo is 2/3 white rusto, 1/3 oil based tube paint (or another color. You can mix paint and water as long as it is acrylic because acrylic is water based.

[Klaz]

yeah but wouldnt it be better to use something that isnt water? like white spirit?

[FLSteele16]

yo does everyone use caps?

[calculating infinity]

wat.

[hazetheone]

i hate you

[iVIBE]

yo does everyone use caps?

you cant be fucking serious?? what do you think we do suck up the paint in a straw and blow it on the fucking wall.

[CAN-KILLER]

i think he is talking about condoms an if so no gotta go raw

[hammer_time]

ever heard that yellow man song, aids?

[CAN-KILLER]

no i havnt but i love std's by necro good lesson in that song

[hammer_time]

go to tools and tips and find a thread called "this is a must read for anyone painting freights", or go to the new to graffiti thread....

but seriously dont go near the freights

[iVIBE]

Yea thats ok bud, there is actually a website that has a list of slang words I believe it is called graffitimasterclasses.com anyway here is some of it.



The list is not exhaustive and will vary from place to place but
here is a rough guide with the main words -

bite - to blatantly copy another writer's style
bomb - prolific painting or marking with ink
burn - to defeat the competition
burner - a cool, (normally) window-down whole carriage, a great piece
caps (fat, skinny) - aerosol can nozzles to vary the width of the
spray
crew - an organized group of writers
def - very good, really cool, excellent
(to be) down - to be part of a group or action
fade - to blend colors
to get up - to get your name up around town and be visible
to go over - to cover another writer's name with your own (highly
disrespectful)



hit - a tag or piece, to write (as a verb)
kill - to bomb too much
king - the best or most revered writer
lay-up - where trains are parked when not in use
married couple - 2 cars that are permanently joined, with
consecutive numbers
motioning - writing on trains whilst still in service
piece - a painting, from masterpiece
rack - to steal
tag - a writer's signature with marker or spraypaint
throw up - a quick tag with an outline and one layer of spray paint
top to bottom - a piece which covers the whole height of the car
toy - inexperienced or untalented writer
up - describes a writer whose work appears regularly on trains or
around town
wak - poor quality or wrong
wild style - interlocking letters that are complicated and usually
difficult to read
window down - a piece made below the windows of a train
writer - practitioner of the art of graffiti

[hammer_time]

and actually a "lay up" is what subways have, freights have "spurs"

[calculating infinity]

freight guys say layup all the time it doesnt matter

[hammer_time]

writers do that, read any freight company manual, or talk to someone who works in a yard,its not important but, that is the proper term, its because the first books on graff were about the subways, so the term carried over

[calculating infinity]

so what

[iVIBE]

hammer was just telling you the history on it bud, its your choice on what you call it.

[letsgobombin]

anyone got an idea of what sizes respirators are? like where is it measured round and how many inches is small, medium and large?

[iVIBE]

unless you have an extremely large head i would just go with the medium you can adjust it to be smaller or bigger

[(SoS)Viruz]

Lol. Yea just get a Medium One. What type or Brand are you gettin may I ask?

[Spark391]

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/1746/proovgt9.jpg
I'm doing that canvas with few edits.

But the question is, if I paint the black background at first, is it gonna efect the all other colors? Like would the lighter ones be darker? As you can see, i'm using some quite light colors and don't want to fuck it up.

[letsgobombin]

i'll probably get a 3m one, unless i find a good cheap one

[iVIBE]

yea 3m is the shit, worth the money

[Klaz]

writers do that, read any freight company manual, or talk to someone who works in a yard,its not important but, that is the proper term, its because the first books on graff were about the subways, so the term carried over


good to see somebody talking sense.


same goes with terms like "benching" a word used by freight writers which originated on the subways for obvious reasons.

[shalf]

Spark
Always start your colours with lightest first then do the darker colours last otherwise you WILL fuck it up and make it look a mess that's a general rule of any piece or artwork...Nice pic though, you take it?

[CakeWalk99]

I just picked up a 3m respirator.........it was $30.00 but it is well worth it! Respect the lungs!


I am just not sure as to how often I should be changing the filters.

[Spark391]

Shalf thanks man, nah I didn't take the photo, it was sent for me as a request for a canvas.

I might get a company logo to paint. Anybody got any tips? I'll problably get the logo on the wall with projector, and then tape the needed spots, but all the letters of the logo aren't straigt, they have curves in it. And with tape the curves look real fucked up, any ideas how to not fuck it up? Thinking off cutting the tape on the curves carefully with exacto knife. It's better to prepare right than correct the mistakes, if fix one part with extra coat of paint, i'll have to go over the enitre logo, because the mistakse will be seen because it's gets some sunlight, and in the reflection you can see what parts are more and what are less covered.

[Bazer]

I just picked up a 3m respirator.........it was $30.00 but it is well worth it! Respect the lungs!


I am just not sure as to how often I should be changing the filters.
every 3 or 4 uses... people say less, about 1 or 2 uses but thats not what i do.

[shalf]

i hear that with proper use you should change the filters every 6 months or so with regular use and keep it in an airtight box to stop it wasting...filter...power

[CakeWalk99]

I keep mine in two ziplock bags because of how paranoid I am. The filters are expensive!

My question of the day: I ordered some caps on July 24th and got the email that they were being shipped on the same day. If you have ever ordered from here, how long did it take?