Toy Questions

[KRE1]

deco fabric markers still work well on cotton products like crewnecks and shirts? or was that specifically mentioned for trucker hats ... ?

[BigBlueViolence]

Well that depends,
is your shirt made of fabric?






jokes, *****!

[408Bomber]

I need help doing simps I can't get mine to come out good any tips?

[KRE1]

haha fair enuf bigblue.

[Bink1]

the dumb thing is deco fabrics clog up very i mean very fast! i got shitload paint in em an the stupid nib cloggin all the time. wash wahsw

[StayHyE]

how do i practice letter structure?

[peacebomb]

Bars homie. Draw your letters out of bars. Practice drawing the letters on your key board over and over again. Use the search to find a tut on bars. I know its on here some were.

[zenne]

here you go:

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f182/rogan181/page2.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f182/rogan181/page1.jpg[/QUOTE]

[peacebomb]

Thank you Zenne.

[StayHyE]

thanks ill work on it

[StayHyE]

how about over lapping or combining letters is there a certain way

[Werse]

The last letters on the bottom, second to last over that, third over that, first is on top.

[DirtyDozen520]

ok, ive been here for a few months now (i dnnt post too much) and I'm wondering what you guys mean by 'sending packs to other people'.
I'm assuming that you send like 100 of YOUR slaps to someone and they put them up around their city?
is that right?

[klic]

yes, except change 100 to 10-20

[mmmmtasty905]

just wondering what you guys think, i write RAVE.. let me know what you guys think of a simple throwie and handstyle. thanks :)

crits are bonus.. always wanting to improove my style.

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t51/thedop/DSC04362.jpg

fail D:

[proNYNJA]

rave: ur R looks like an S to me and ur A looks like its the R to me

[DirtyDozen520]

if you get caught while your in the act, what is the worst that they can do? if this is your first offense
what would the fine be, thx

[StayHyE]

slap on the wrists may be probation...small fine


another toy question....okay i been working on letter structure and such how everything has to be with bars, so how do i work on the flow of my letters to make them all similar also here i added where im inquiring, how do the bits i add at the end of the letter dont look like i'm over doing it where also it doesnt ruin the letters flow

http://i44.tinypic.com/fbcqb.jpg

[zenne]

it all comes with time, dude. after about 30-40 bars drawings, you'll see and get used to how letters flow, and you'll see where connections make sense and where they dont. just keep practicing. start drawing connections (but for the love of god, dont post them yet) and draw like 15 different drawings, and see what works the best.

[mmmmtasty905]

if you get caught while your in the act, what is the worst that they can do? if this is your first offense
what would the fine be, thx


The worst they can do, Is litarally make you come to court a million times.. Because it's not a serious offense, and in my case, I was not caght in the act, Somebody snitched on me and gave me up to the cops.. But the most that could happen, they'll give you probation after you're sentence and for the time bieng until then, they will put a curfew on you. Wich we all know what that means and conditions.. nothing hard to abide by.

Althought I couldnt.. I breached curfew 4 times..

[Cure Sure Lure]

Practice, practice, practice, think, think, think, practice, variety, practice, take your time, but practice, practice and practice.

[Cure Sure Lure]

Wow, that shit is like a tongue twister.
''Practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice.''

[mmmmtasty905]

rave: ur R looks like an S to me and ur A looks like its the R to me

i know, i've been trying to work on this for quite some time now :/

[Zarb]

Grabbed this marker at Staples, its a white out pen but if i fill it with some ink will it be legit?
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb33/skateboard23/Photo24.jpg

[BigBlueViolence]

Bic white out pens are pretty week

Head over to Staples and nab some Presto! brand white out pens

http://content.etilize.com/Large/11966991.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/307te2f.jpg

[Zarb]

Yeah those were the ones I was looking for I was pretty I couldnt find it, Ill check office max tomorrow maybe theyll have it.
So i shouldnt waste my time with the one I got right?

[BigBlueViolence]

I mean, if you want to,
but sometimes the soft part just sucks in and won't come back out.

i don't think they are at OM, but I could be wrong.

I know they are at Staples, though.

[Zarb]

Alright thanks

[medacog1]

hey have you ever heard of o-glue sticks?

If you ever took the glue out and put your own "ink" in tell me how it turns out.

P.S
If you dont know what they look like google "oglue stick"

[klic]

is there any place that doesnt store stamps behind the counter so that they're possible to rack?

[bigdic]

like postage stamps?

[klic]

yes

[Mr yarbles]

I highly doubt it.
They treat postage stamps like fucking legal tender

[zenne]

it pretty much IS legal tender...

[Graff J up]

umm,...uhhh...HOW THE FUCK can i rack rusto!! >:O

i tried the shoving it down my jeans thing and mines are to small plus the can just bulges out like a mother fucker

[zenne]

i found that method quite easy actually. i was wearing shorts and a t-shirt, and put a rusto can in my belt line,tilted it to the side, put my t shirt over it, walked kinda hunched over, and left.

[tha wite rabbit]

o'glue sticks are really good with a paint in it like ghetto krink, they flow faster for some reason so use a non thinned paint or a thick ink to make the ink flow consistent, dont use a thin ink other wse it will just pour out... dont use laquer thinner cuz it will eat through the plastic, the only color that works well in them is rusto aluminium unthinned, but dont fully mix it with the shit on the bottom cuz the pigment will clog it up.

[klic]

ok, im going to try and not sound like the 11245897129587195874 other toys that have asked this question.

how should i go about racking paint from a hardware store when its right beside the girl that works at the paint counter.

i was thinking i just carry a backpack in with me. pick up a basket from the door, fill it with paint, take it to a different aisle and fill my bag up?

[Facedorateur]

can the gurl see the cash area at the front of the store, or the garden section?
if not, you should be able to get a basket and fill your bag in another aisle.
If she can see you, then fill your basket, go into another aisle, but take just half of the cans, so if they ask you ''where is the basket that you filled up with paint'' you can say in which aisle you left it, and its actually there.

My turn
So huuuuuuee, igot caught shoplifting a bottle of rhum, which has nothing to do with graffiti, and now my friend took all my paint and is making me feel guilty about it graffiti (which dosent usually happen), + i vowed myself not to rack anything that is not related to graffiti. What should i do?

[skull-e]

quit graff.

[BigBlueViolence]

you should probably die, too.

[klic]

can the gurl see the cash area at the front of the store, or the garden section?
if not, you should be able to get a basket and fill your bag in another aisle.
If she can see you, then fill your basket, go into another aisle, but take just half of the cans, so if they ask you ''where is the basket that you filled up with paint'' you can say in which aisle you left it, and its actually there.

My turn
So huuuuuuee, igot caught shoplifting a bottle of rhum, which has nothing to do with graffiti, and now my friend took all my paint and is making me feel guilty about it graffiti (which dosent usually happen), + i vowed myself not to rack anything that is not related to graffiti. What should i do?

ok thanks for the tip

and id punch your friend in the face, he sounds like a faggot haha

[zenne]

My turn
So huuuuuuee, igot caught shoplifting a bottle of rhum, which has nothing to do with graffiti, and now my friend took all my paint and is making me feel guilty about it graffiti (which dosent usually happen), + i vowed myself not to rack anything that is not related to graffiti. What should i do?

aha... ill pm you my address, just send all your graff stuff, and the rum, to me.

[TheMurderousMisterMero_]

yeah send it to him so he can make more whack videos about his supplies. becuase we are all interested in your wicked cool racking skillz/supplie stash.

[zenne]

dont be jealous.

[TheMurderousMisterMero_]

i isnt.

[zenne]

mhm.

[Mr yarbles]

ok thanks for the tip

and id punch your friend in the face, he sounds like a faggot haha

Alot of times if not most there will be a worker by the paint isle
Just play it cool walk ub grab your paint act like you're going to a different isle that no one goes to put it in then walk out.
If theys ay hey say hey back if they ask you if you need help tell them no.

[Zarb]

Where do I get blank slaps?

[kezr1]

^post office or online. check out dhl, fed ex, ect

[zenne]

theres a thread... go on page 2 or something...

[Sketched!]

when i slap a sticker is there a chance for the pigs to get a fingerprint off of it?
they probably wont bother but just to be sure

[zenne]

when i slap a sticker is there a chance for the pigs to get a fingerprint off of it?
they probably wont bother but just to be sure

lmao. you know how expensive it is for them to do fingerprint checks? they do that in murder cases, not vandalism.

[Black Flag]

lmao. you know how expensive it is for them to do fingerprint checks? they do that in murder cases, not vandalism.

They will do prints if they get a positive id on you and you left something behind like a can.

But no, they aren't going to do csi style run the print through an FBI database lol.

[BigBlueViolence]

Refuse on Teenagers from Uranus was talking about getting roped
and getting a prison sentence
because of finger prints.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/78/207738641_91ba880e97.jpg?v=0

[zenne]

ok, if you have a slap on every corner of every street on every sign pole in your state, then you MIGHT get roped for prints. be smart.

[BigBlueViolence]

I wouldn't say you'd get roped at all for stickers,
look at BNE.

If you are straight up destroying shit on the reg,
and you live in a well off state,
you MIGHT get caught for prints if you leave a can/ lid behind.

[TheMurderousMisterMero_]

havent you cats heard of cleaning up after yourselves???

[BigBlueViolence]

That's all it really takes,
but even the mob fucks up sometimes.

[zenne]

really, i dont see the point in vandalism. thats the only think i dont like about the general idea of graffiti. like, im cool with bombin shit, but i hate people that just disrespect property by leaving behind trash and breaking their shit.

[TheMurderousMisterMero_]

writing on peoples shit is vandalism dunce.

[Aesir]

writing on peoples shit is vandalism dunce.

How so? Unless you're doing a scratchie or using etch, I don't really see how it could be considered vandalism. Paint is a protective surface. That wall is better off having that paint on it.

["Sin"]

hey i write SIN but i was thinking about writing WISE.
what do you think.

[zenne]

because, theres a difference between decorating a city with art, replacing a boring wall with colors, and straight up destroying property.

[Werse]

Get in line behind the other 100 people that write sin and wise.

[C3ZR ONE]

How so? Unless you're doing a scratchie or using etch, I don't really see how it could be considered vandalism. Paint is a protective surface. That wall is better off having that paint on it.

hahahaha... So going with that train of thought, if I came over to your house and dropped a bunch of GD pitchforks and shit, you'd thanks me for the "protective" coat of paint?
Nice try tho dude. I lol'd.

[Aesir]

What? Could you perhaps reiterate what you just said? Your typing is atrocious and quite frankly it makes me want to punch a baby.

[TheMurderousMisterMero_]

word.cezr's got it right.just becuase its not as desructive as lets say throwing a rock through someones window but its still vandalism.your putting something on someone elses shit without their permission and they have the right to keep their walls and such "boring" as you put it.and when you put something up on it you destroy that wall in a sense.its vandalism and theres a reason its illegal.now,does that mean that i care??? no.i really dont.but its still vandalism no matter how artistic or pretty that shit is.

[DirtyDozen520]

lmao

[TheMurderousMisterMero_]

What? Could you perhaps reiterate what you just said? Your typing is atrocious and quite frankly it makes me want to punch a baby.

basicly what you deem art is to another person vandalism, especially when its their shit. not everyone wants your 'dope piece' on there store or truck or whatever you decide to bomb.

[Aesir]

That wasn't particularly my point and I also understand your opinions on the matter. This debate has surely been had before and there are many good points on either side. In truth it doesn't matter very much and I just felt like being a jerk.

[zenne]

its been said before. nobody ever asked my permission before they put huge coporate buildings up. why should i care what they think. im just saying, destroying pointlessly is stupid.

[BigBlueViolence]

Well,
if you are painting to stick it to the big corporate buildings,
I would say firebombing is just as productive, if not more.

[TheMurderousMisterMero_]

they dont have to ask your fucking permission its america they can build whereever the fuck they want and whatever the fuck they want as long as they bring money.grow the fuck up kid.shit i dont even know why im saying kdi your my age and yet i have more common sense than you...would you like it if some random person decided to draw shit on your house because you didnt ask his permission to build it? no. youd be fucking pissed and dont act like you wouldnt be becuase you would. your gonna have to clean it up eventually.my point is they can build that shit if they so please.and frankly it doesnt effect your life in the slightest so why do you care? same thing with billboards. everyone bitches about billboards "invading their space" someone bought that shit and they have the right to put whatever they want on there. wether or not you like it. get over it.

[Aesir]

Well,
if you are painting to stick it to the big corporate buildings,
I would say firebombing is just as productive, if not more.

You know...you're a real dick how am I supposed to fit that into my signature too?

[TheMurderousMisterMero_]

Well,
if you are painting to stick it to the big corporate buildings,
I would say firebombing is just as productive, if not more.

enjoy your lawsuit dumbass(not directed at you earn more like zenne)

graffiti isnt going to bring down a huge corporation you silly little teenagers.

["Sin"]

hey i write SIN but i was thinking about writing WISE.
what do you think.

[Aesir]

I think you should shut the fuck up and stop posting that in every thread. Here's a suggestion - kill yourself. @ SIN

["Sin"]

thankyou you very much sir. but that did not really answer my question.
no need to be an ass.

[BigBlueViolence]

For real though,
that shit's annoying.

["Sin"]

what is annoying

[KidReny!]

you
"hey guys umm im really up right now in my hood and be bombing er were so like do you think i should write "sin" cause its a sin to write or mayb "wise" cause im so wise. lol clever huh? alright now im gonna posts this in EVERY thread"
thats annoying and to answer your question
neither those letters wont flow in a tag write something different

[proNYNJA]

okay im going out tonight for the first time and imma go hit a billboard
i heard that they turn the billboard lights off at a certain time of night, anyone know when?

[BigBlueViolence]

okay im going out tonight for the first time and imma go hit a billboard
i heard that they turn the billboard lights off at a certain time of night, anyone know when?
You are going to paint a billboard your first time out?
Man, I'd have to say it's a bad idea.

[KidReny!]

okay im going out tonight for the first time and imma go hit a billboard
i heard that they turn the billboard lights off at a certain time of night, anyone know when?

yeah in my opinion do something small like idk a mail box, a hidden wall, maybe public dumpster

still dont hit up a billboard they dont shut off the lights at night other wise what would be the point of them putting the lights up in the 1st place

[C3ZR ONE]

What? Could you perhaps reiterate what you just said? Your typing is atrocious and quite frankly it makes me want to punch a baby.

Hmmmm...

Proper capitolization? ....Check.

Spelling?... I accidentally added one "S" to the end of the word "thank", but aside from that, it's all there. Check.

grammatical correctness? ...Check.

Clear and conscise question? ...check.

I could retype the same post for you, but aside from that, you'll just have to learn the English language. But if punching babies helps you to concentrate, then by all means, kill yourself slowly.

[proNYNJA]

well i heard they turn off the lights at like 2 or 3 but i dunt know the exact time, and then they turn em back on at like 4,

and also im either gunna do a simple or just my throwie and be done within like 30 mins

[KidReny!]

i know ur hyped to do it but seriously take my advice dont risk getting caught by hitting something like that, do those on walls yo, but still i cant stop u live and learn right do wat u gotta do if u do bomb it then get some flicks at leasts i wanna see

[skull-e]

lol, why would it take you a half hour to do a throw or even a simple?



I recently heard that mtn gold cans are made or carbon fiber and so they dont leave fingerprints on the can, thats why theres a fingerprint on the front logo.

I was pretty amazed then I learned that, just thought I'd share.

[C3ZR ONE]

well i heard they turn off the lights at like 2 or 3 but i dunt know the exact time, and then they turn em back on at like 4,

and also im either gunna do a simple or just my throwie and be done within like 30 mins

If it takes you 30 minutes to scale a board, bust a simple or throwie and bounce, you need to try something else, like a sewer or abandoned building or some shit. Throws take a couple minutes, literally. Plus, if you have other writers in your area, they're gonna clown you for busting something that will inevitably be wack on a nice heat spot. Seriously, if you haven't painted, OR haven't painted under pressure (which is entirely different) then billboards aren't for you yet. I'm not trying to be a dick. I made my newjack mistakes on freights. I wish I had hadn't now. Start with low key shit and learn how to get over before you go under.;)

[Sketched!]

My question got thrown off course.
i need to know if they can take prints from stickers cuz im gonna be doing a very hot spot and am probably gonna get alot of heat.

thanks

[Zarb]

Dude they can get prints off of anything you put your your fingers on basically. There not gonna finger print you for a sticker though, I don't think they would even want to waste the time

[C3ZR ONE]

My question got thrown off course.
i need to know if they can take prints from stickers cuz im gonna be doing a very hot spot and am probably gonna get alot of heat.

thanks
shit kid.. Do you live in a small town or what? One sticker in a heat spot isn't gonna draw heat. A hundred probably won't either. You have to work your fucking ass off to draw heat from stickers. Posters don't even draw much heat and they're 100 times bigger.
You'd have to drop one on Obama's gramma's left tit to catch heat off a sticker, and forget about fingerprints. I've smudged the paint on a postal so much it left perfect prints for them. They don't give a shit. Chances are, the cop just got done pulling some drunk guys fist out of his wifes face, or something similiar before he spots your sticker, so he doesn't give your adhesive paper criminality as much credit or concern as you do.
It's all in your head. Put your freakin sticker up and forget about it.

[Tapn]

wheres so hot that you think they'd take prints?
and i have a noob question
are stickers generally illegal?
i tried to check my local laws but it said nothing.
If it is on public or private property will a cop take action or just give you a talking to.

[BigBlueViolence]

Like I said,
BNE hasn't got roped up yet.

[C3ZR ONE]

wheres so hot that you think they'd take prints?
and i have a noob question
are stickers generally illegal?
i tried to check my local laws but it said nothing.
If it is on public or private property will a cop take action or just give you a talking to.
A couple years back I did some wheatpasting and they reported on it in the news. The cop on TV said it could be considered something to the effect of Malicious mischief or something like that which is a 3rd degree misdemenor. Don't quote me on that, but the point is, if they do decide they want you and know who you are, they can figure out a charge to put on you, but it's highly unlikely. I would still be cautious tho.

Fuck. I just chased some kid down the block who was trying to break into my car. I hate the hood..

[Sketched!]

shit kid.. Do you live in a small town or what? One sticker in a heat spot isn't gonna draw heat. A hundred probably won't either. You have to work your fucking ass off to draw heat from stickers. Posters don't even draw much heat and they're 100 times bigger.
You'd have to drop one on Obama's gramma's left tit to catch heat off a sticker, and forget about fingerprints. I've smudged the paint on a postal so much it left perfect prints for them. They don't give a shit. Chances are, the cop just got done pulling some drunk guys fist out of his wifes face, or something similiar before he spots your sticker, so he doesn't give your adhesive paper criminality as much credit or concern as you do.
It's all in your head. Put your freakin sticker up and forget about it.

i thought it was obvious im gonna be hittin the hot spot with paint :o
my logic is this:
i do hot spot > they wanna get me > they see a sticker and take prints then im fucked

[C3ZR ONE]

i thought it was obvious im gonna be hittin the hot spot with paint :o
my logic is this:
i do hot spot > they wanna get me > they see a sticker and take prints then im fucked
Now you're talking! Nothing get's them fired up like paint, but unless you live in a REALLY small town, I wouldn't be worried.

[zenne]

ok THAT makes more sense to be paranoid, i thought this kid said hes putting a sticker in a hotspot i was like WTF? and that sin/wise kid really needs to shut the fuck up.

[KnoxIn]

lol, why would it take you a half hour to do a throw or even a simple?



I recently heard that mtn gold cans are made or carbon fiber and so they dont leave fingerprints on the can, thats why theres a fingerprint on the front logo.

I was pretty amazed then I learned that, just thought I'd share.


is that legit??? any body other than him heard of this?

[KnoxIn]

My question got thrown off course.
i need to know if they can take prints from stickers cuz im gonna be doing a very hot spot and am probably gonna get alot of heat.

thanks

if i were you and you were trippin that bad i would just do a stencil its quick like a sticker but no prints or shit off that just my 2 cents

[TheMurderousMisterMero_]

if your trippin over stickers then maybe this just isnt for you...

[zenne]

^concur. suck it up and do the shit.

[skull-e]

Please don't come here to ask us if graffiti is safe. kthnx

[dreaken1993]

i gotta qustion

so i was hiting up this barn/garage thinamig with a wack ass piece of mine and then this old lady in a house behind mean yelled so i dipped so like a month later when i was at school the pigs came to my crib and asked my gma if there was a kid fitting my description living there she said yes and gave em my info like my name and shit so now thepigs know what i write and who i am, should i switch or change my name

cause i know alot of pigs now whos who but they cant do shit cause they aint got no proof or they didnt catch em doing it

idk.

[BigBlueViolence]

Dog,
you live in some fucking corn-plowing-cow-having type city, don't you?

[dreaken1993]

hell naw, it was some garage in this dudes backyard in this alley and it just looks like a barn haha lol

[provinT13]

If the cops know that you write that, like if they see a throw of yours and they say "hey that's that jim kid" then yes change what you write lol

About the montana gold. Carbon fiber is very expensive, and on montana's website i haven't seen any info saying the cans are made of carbon fiber and won't pick up prints, so i'm gonna have to say no, the cans aren't made of carbon fiber.

[zenne]

tell your gramma to shut the fuck up.

[dreaken1993]

i know man i came home sat down and she was like we had some visitors i was like who and she was like the cops and i jsut got quiet she was like they said someone who looks like you was spray painting in an alley , "ooh what you say" "well i gave them your info" and i just sat there and then she was like dont do it again then my gpa was like dont get caught next time, then for the next week or two evertime i went out my gpa was like dont buy no paint and would laugh

ima change my shit

[zenne]

i dont care.

[dreaken1993]

i got another ? why you so mean

[zenne]

cause your a faggot.

[Mr yarbles]

i know man i came home sat down and she was like we had some visitors i was like who and she was like the cops and i jsut got quiet she was like they said someone who looks like you was spray painting in an alley , "ooh what you say" "well i gave them your info" and i just sat there and then she was like dont do it again then my gpa was like dont get caught next time, then for the next week or two evertime i went out my gpa was like dont buy no paint and would laugh

ima change my shit

Who cares.
Cops have shit loads of "names"
They have my name they probably have alot of peoples names and info
the cops can't do much
That's just a scare tactic.

[zenne]

exactly. so what, they have your name. ill walk up to him and say my name. whats he gonna do? he didnt see you do shit. hell, even if you go up to him and say "i write _____", he still probably cant do shit cause 1. he doesnt have a witness that heard you say that and 2. he didnt witness you do anything illegal.

so shut the fuck up, and go do the shit.

[TheMurderousMisterMero_]

. hell, even if you go up to him and say "i write _____", he still probably cant do shit cause 1. he doesnt have a witness that heard you say that and 2. he didnt witness you do anything illegal.


your a dumbass and shouldnt be giving out advice especially about this.if you were to go up to a cop and say "i write zen" or whatever your basicly confessing to him and he doesnt need a witness he's a fucking cop and its his word against yours.you going up to someone and telling them you write whatever isnt enough to get you in jail but it is enough for them to haul you in for questioning and def enough for them to commence harrassment.I.E. visiting your home and your school asking questions,following you around.if cops are coming to your house asking questions about you and vandalism then you SHOULD be worried.more than likely someone at his school said something.but yeah....zenne stfu.

[zenne]

bitch he cant go to to court and say "well he said..." and i deny it, he cant do shit.

[Fury]

The cop has to have proof beyond a reasonable doubt that you committed the crime. Hell, somebody's been writing my old name around my neighborhood, but I can't get busted for that shit since I didn't do it and nobody saw me do it either.

This holds true unless they get you on one count of vandalism and tell you that they'll pursue more counts (like different throws or tags or something). However, they still have to have proof and if it looks a lot like how you've done others, you're pretty much booked for those as well.

[TheMurderousMisterMero_]

yeah well i got six months under my belt that says thats bullshit. if they have to theyll make shit up.i got that amount of time plus about 2 years probabtion and the only thing that tied me to the crimes was my crew..they said it was my initials or someshit.that and some kids at school started snitching for reward money and the fact that my fucking piece of shit lawyer was probably in with the courts anyways...
basicly cops dont give a fuck about respecting your rights or upholding the law...they care about sending your ass to fucking jail.thats there sole purpose.my point is they can build a case behind someone with little to no evidence and get a conviction..theres people in jail for murder but they never found the body.if this doesnt make sense its probably becuase im mega tired right now...

[Black Flag]

yeah well i got six months under my belt that says thats bullshit. if they have to theyll make shit up.i got that amount of time plus about 2 years probabtion and the only thing that tied me to the crimes was my crew..they said it was my initials or someshit.that and some kids at school started snitching for reward money and the fact that my fucking piece of shit lawyer was probably in with the courts anyways...
basicly cops dont give a fuck about respecting your rights or upholding the law...they care about sending your ass to fucking jail.thats there sole purpose.my point is they can build a case behind someone with little to no evidence and get a conviction..theres people in jail for murder but they never found the body.if this doesnt make sense its probably becuase im mega tired right now...

1. Running with a crew can get you treated differently as some dumb people / poorly written laws will get that considered as gang activity.
2. If your lawyer helped the prosecution get you convicted you can have your case appealed and/or have his license revoked.

You are correct when it comes to convictions with bullshit evidence or purpose. But then there are cases where people who should get nailed with jail time get out of it, so in the end, it balances out (unfortunately at our expense.)

[DirtyDozen520]

aite so im in need of some money so I'm going to go to michaels and rack a shitload of decos and sell em all together on ebay for a pretty cheap price..

what are the risks of gettin caught (selling stolen shit)?
I know if you do it every day, people might catch on but this will be my first time sellin

[Fury]

On eBay, I think it'd be harder to get caught for that, especially selling to another state or country. But I have no experience in this field, so I may be dead wrong.

The purpose of a police officer is NOT to just throw your ass in jail; it is to uphold the law. However, many officers are corrupt and will try to get your ass in jail whichever way they can. If the cop you're dealing with does not respect your rights, get it on camera if possible and get his badge number. As long as you're doing everything within your own rights and aren't doing stupid shit like talking back, you can use that in court against the police officer. While the judge will be more turned to the officer, if you have proof and do a thorough analysis and make it sound like you know what you're talking about, you should be able to get the judge more on your side.

Just a thought after reading law and watching many court cases.

[zenne]

i sold some stolen shit on craigslist before. if i were you, steal the shit, wait like 2 weeks, then post that shit on ebay. then if anybody asks you how you got it, just be like i bought it a few days ago, or my friend is moving out and didnt need this stuff... when they people asked me why i bought the shit just to sell it again, i said it was on sale, or i had a project in mind, and never went through with it. sell the shit cheaper than store price.

[PeeInTheShower]

If the cops know that you write that, like if they see a throw of yours and they say "hey that's that jim kid" then yes change what you write lol

About the montana gold. Carbon fiber is very expensive, and on montana's website i haven't seen any info saying the cans are made of carbon fiber and won't pick up prints, so i'm gonna have to say no, the cans aren't made of carbon fiber.

there are carbon fiber montana cans. and them putting that on their site is a heatup, as if they don't already sell spraypaint..

by the way, you jitterbugs watch out with cameras while you're driving... alot of people been getting roped up because they thought those cameras were for no reason. they get the plate, come to your house in a couple days, investigate. well, that's if you put in mad work.

[Aesir]

What you need to do is pick up some really cheap memory cards so that if you do get caught you can just pop it out and snap it. Losing 10 bucks for the memory card is better than giving the cops all the evidence they need to convict you.

[DirtyDozen520]

also, zenne, what are some good things to rack from michaels that would be easy to sell on ebay? and by "easy" i mean "popular"

[TheMurderousMisterMero_]

1. Running with a crew can get you treated differently as some dumb people / poorly written laws will get that considered as gang activity.
2. If your lawyer helped the prosecution get you convicted you can have your case appealed and/or have his license revoked.

You are correct when it comes to convictions with bullshit evidence or purpose. But then there are cases where people who should get nailed with jail time get out of it, so in the end, it balances out (unfortunately at our expense.)
nah im almost off probabtion anyways..well im getting off early at least.which is cool.im not gonna fight it.theres no point i highly doubt anything will come of it.alot of my friends and other people i know of through different people have wrote up complaints and what not and never have anything come of it. the court/police are crooked as fuck here but theres not much anyone can do about it.

[Aesir]

yea yo, them cereal police are fuckers. I heard they beat up snap crackle and pop just for j-walking.

[TheMurderousMisterMero_]

wtf are you talking about?

[proNYNJA]

okay i wanna sneak out again but this is gunna be like my second time sneaking out, but heres the problem, recently my apartment just installed cameras in them and now they can see anybody going in or out 24/7, now do you think the manager will be trippn if he sees that i went out at like 1am and got back at 2am and tell the cops or worse, my parents?

[zenne]

experimentation is key.

[Aesir]

wtf are you talking about?


It say's on your location that you live in a cereal box. I was just trying to be funny. Suffice to say, I failed.

[Werse]

okay i wanna sneak out again but this is gunna be like my second time sneaking out, but heres the problem, recently my apartment just installed cameras in them and now they can see anybody going in or out 24/7, now do you think the manager will be trippn if he sees that i went out at like 1am and got back at 2am and tell the cops or worse, my parents?

Stab him in the neck.
Or slip him $10.

[proNYNJA]

xD
i dont think 10bucks is gunna keep him from telln my parents, i dunno he seems like a mr.hero and the cops be in our apartments like almost every other week having nigguhz 4rm MS13 on the floor and shit reading them their rights.

[Aesir]

Are they only at the exits? What floor are you on? Is there an fire escape or access stairwell you could use? walk around the outside in the morning and just look for alternate exits. ya know?

[TheMurderousMisterMero_]

okay i wanna sneak out again but this is gunna be like my second time sneaking out, but heres the problem, recently my apartment just installed cameras in them and now they can see anybody going in or out 24/7, now do you think the manager will be trippn if he sees that i went out at like 1am and got back at 2am and tell the cops or worse, my parents?

i dont see why he would give a fuck about you leaving anywhere.the reason he installed them more than likely is for like if someone gets shot/kickdoor/someone gets robbed in general, or theyre there to stop vandals like you so basicly dont do anything stupid in your complex which you should already know not to do becuase thats a good way to get your ass kicked out.dont trip homie...i lived in a complex for a while and they never said shit about it we'd smoke weed an shit in the parking lot and on the steps and they never said shit...

[H3TT1NG3R]

just tell people you were out clubbin or some shit ahah. is there liek a curfew or someyhing?

[TheMurderousMisterMero_]

dont tell anyone anything.fuck them...your not gonna get fucking caught unless its by your parents FUCKING TRUST ME ON THIS.i know what im talkin bout mayne.

[Fury]

I doubt the guy's gonna care, just say you were going to a friend's house if he really asks. It's none of his business if you leave anyway. But MS13 people just painted on like brand new fucking walls near my house and over my old shit. I was kinda freaked out since it looked like MSB and that's a guy I know's initials and I thought they were ratting him out or something.

[exitus]

Id be careful with this, make sure you never tag your apartment or to be safe anywhere near. Or try and split it up like not every night. just stay at home and work in your black book

[TheMurderousMisterMero_]

dont even trip nothing is gonna come of it unless you fuck around in the complex....god you guys are pussies lol.

[skull-e]

yeah, serioously, the managers not your mom, hes not even any kind of authority.


you just pay him to live in his building.

[cds_dogg665544]

whats the easiest way to make a markers that GK will flow threw : skinny and medium nibs?

[skull-e]

uh, visine bottle.

GK doesnt flow through any type of solid marker nib, it'd work in a mop too tho

[walkwiththelion]

Anyone got tips on how to put 2 f's together, im trying to do a throwie for the word ruff, i know its been done, im just experimenting, i 'm having trouble with it though.

[k'n1ve]

having back to backs sucks bro just do ruf, or ruph id say, but its up to you, i just think it looks tacky to have the same letter 2 times in a row.

[skull-e]

I hate doing f's even when im just writing shit.

[klic]

ive slowly been losing interest in graffiti lately so what do you guys suggest i do to regain interest?

[BigBlueViolence]

Shit man, just paint.
If it aint for you than it ain't for you.

[walkwiththelion]

agreed.

Also another question. I took the advice and tried writing ruph, but ran into another problem ive had before and need to work on, the p kinda interupts the flow because it curves back in, so the h looks awkward, anyone got tips on the stuff?

[TheMurderousMisterMero_]

i had similar problems with my M E....the only thing you can do is just keep fuckin with it untill you get it.its gonna take a while just keep fucking with it till you get it.dont give up on the name or nothin becuase sooner or later you'll get it.look at how other people with that same letter combination do it and go off that until you can make it your own...it all takes time.

[walkwiththelion]

'preciate it man. for real.

[BigBlueViolence]

First thing I gotta say is this, and it isn't towards you;

A lot of you *****s are way too into this whole "critz and tipz" business.
Like *****s actually getting mad over some dude not listening to your advice.
and then there are these dudes straight up ignoring their style and doing every little thing some dudes over the internet tell them to do.

Graff isn't just about style, it's about YOUR style.
Criticism in this culture should be nothing more than peers interpreting your style,
and telling you what they would do (Not what you should do).

I can understand agreeing with someone else's point of view, maybe them catching something you missed.
Do what you want *****,
what's the point of being a part of something if you don't have any personality?


Second; maybe try to make the bends in the P a little less drastic?
I don't have a picture, so I can't really help you

[CrustOner]

I agree with BigBlue when he says to not crit someone to fit an already established style, but to help them with their own style, as he just did.



Second; maybe try to make the bends in the P a little less drastic?

see? specific and adhering to the nature of the letters.

[hardwares]

ive slowly been losing interest in graffiti lately so what do you guys suggest i do to regain interest?

personally i tend to phase in and out. usually i watch some graff movie, or go on bs to get myself back into it. i went for like 7 months convinced that it wasnt for me, sketching everything but letters. then all of a sudden i found myself sketching out new hands etc etc.

[proNYNJA]

ight i gotta question, imma go out 2night again but i wanna hit a train, the only problem is that all the yards around me are burnt out already, so can i like just go to the tracks and hit a freight car that is disconnected from the locomotive and not worry about being run over by a big ass freight train

[TheMurderousMisterMero_]

do what you gotta do but dont heat up the tracks...and if your still toy id say stay off of trains for a bit.hit somethin out of the way til you up your skills.

[weakfingers]

I'd also wouldent hit a train yet, theres so many rules to follow that you prob dont know yet.



Okay, lately I've gotten in a rut where everything i draw or take my time on just fucking sucks, like I'm working on simple bar letters and i can keep proportion, bar width, letter size etc etc etc, but it seems now that ive gotten to the point of starting to work on my own style aka bending the letters and changing bar width everything just turns out like garbage and like no matter how long i work on a drawing it seems like im not progressing anymore. I still find writing fun but like im not seeing much of a change.

[hardwares]

sometimes my letters change for the better even if i dont sketch or draw, its weird. just chill out for a bit, watch some graff movies or something and sketch. fuck it if it comes out like shit, you have so long to get better.

[weakfingers]

Word, I think its just a changing phase, I wont try thinking about it and just chill and hopefully something will come out soon.

[medacog1]

Could someone explain the whole "use the bars" when i am doing letters?

And how did you learn your handstyle... just writing the alphabet a good amount of times?

[sellers E.]

for bars. its exactly what it sounds like. look at ur key board. for example if u were drawing an H u would use 3 bars. 2 parellel and 1 horizontel.

as for handstyles look up caligraphy fonts. practice them. heres an example http://www.dafont.com/theme.php?cat=601&page=2

[proNYNJA]

i went out on sunday and monday night and i didnt go out yesterday but i wanna go out again tonight, so whut do you think a reasonable amount of days a week you should go out so people wont get suspicious?

[BigBlueViolence]

Any day you want to?

[Spraycan Stories]

agreed.

Also another question. I took the advice and tried writing ruph, but ran into another problem ive had before and need to work on, the p kinda interupts the flow because it curves back in, so the h looks awkward, anyone got tips on the stuff?

dont curve it in flair it out.
you know what i mean?

I have a question that will sound extremely toy
how probable is it they will use fingerprints on a can?

[Fury]

i went out on sunday and monday night and i didnt go out yesterday but i wanna go out again tonight, so whut do you think a reasonable amount of days a week you should go out so people wont get suspicious?

If anything, they'll think you're going out clubbin' or just chilling with your friends all the time. The last thing they'd even suspect would probably be graff. Seriously, if you have to, say you're going to the store (which is why you're wearing your backpack). No offense, but there's no reason to be bent out of shape over it because (unless your guardians are suspicious as Scooby Doo on crack) your guardians will not suspect a thing unless you make it happen (leaving paint out, lathering yourself in paint or ink, etc).

[proNYNJA]

^^yea but the curfew is 10pm and i go out at like 1am and my apartment have cameras, and my mom and dad don't know i go out but the manager might say something if i go out everyday

how probable is it they will use fingerprints on a can

i think if like they find a random spray can and then they see a fresh piece or bomb maybe, but i doubt they will wanna take the time to fingerprint it they much rather try to chase your ass down for like 3blocks and then tackle you then do all that forensic shit.

but heres a question related to his question, if they do take the time to do fingerprints and you have never been in trouble or even in jail will they get any matches on the fingerprints they pull from the spraycan?

[TheMurderousMisterMero_]

but heres a question related to his question, if they do take the time to do fingerprints and you have never been in trouble or even in jail will they get any matches on the fingerprints they pull from the spraycan?


uuuuum no.duuh.unless you live in greece where at 18 everyone is fingerprinted..in america we have AFIS which is a collection of prints of everyone who's been arrested.so if you've never been arrested your straight.but what they might do is if and when you get caught they might have stored those prints on the can and it might match up but i HIGHLY doubt they would waste their time to do that.so your straight unless you get caught.

[proNYNJA]

what do you think is a better spot to bomb, a vacant lot on a sidestreet or and alley off a mainstreet?

[zenne]

Street side, always.only garbage trucks use allies,lol

[BigBlueViolence]

Downtown Detroit alleys get the smashing.

If a lot of people are walking/biking around your area, alleys aren't a bad idea at all.

[Spraycan Stories]

uuuuum no.duuh.unless you live in greece where at 18 everyone is fingerprinted..in america we have AFIS which is a collection of prints of everyone who's been arrested.so if you've never been arrested your straight.but what they might do is if and when you get caught they might have stored those prints on the can and it might match up but i HIGHLY doubt they would waste their time to do that.so your straight unless you get caught.

you know the odds that a trucker will radio cops if they see you?

[TheMurderousMisterMero_]

you know the odds that a trucker will radio cops if they see you?

what does that have to do with my statement??? nothing at all.if a trucker sees you yeah he'll call you in...truckers have been known to box in people trying to run from cops so i dont doubt they'd call it in or something.but again your comment makes no sense.

[TheMurderousMisterMero_]

i went out on sunday and monday night and i didnt go out yesterday but i wanna go out again tonight, so whut do you think a reasonable amount of days a week you should go out so people wont get suspicious?

dude chill out.fuck your landlord.fuck him in the ass.he's not gonna say shit.no one checks those cameras unless something happened the night before.and alot of the times with those apartments and shit alot of cameras arent even recording.they just hook up to some monitors.he's not gonna notice and even if he does notice i HIGHLY doubt he's gonna care at all that your leaving in the middle of the night unless your fucking around IN the apartment complex so dont do anything in the complex.which you shouldnt do for alot of reasons.the main reason that you can get your ass kicked out for that shit.so dont trip.you worry too much man.take a chill pill

[Spraycan Stories]

what does that have to do with my statement??? nothing at all.if a trucker sees you yeah he'll call you in...truckers have been known to box in people trying to run from cops so i dont doubt they'd call it in or something.but again your comment makes no sense.

nothing at all but you answered my first question so i figured you know more. I know truckers jsut have to switch channels to get to police on their radio though.

[TheMurderousMisterMero_]

oh well that makes sense haha.yeah dude jus watch your back.most truckers from the ones i met are joe hero's for the most part.so dont fuck around but i mean anyone can call you in so bottom line is know your surrounding and have an escape route(preferably multipul) and know where a cop or something will most likely come from and watch out for them.the best thing you can do is be prepared to run and know where to run if it comes down to that.

[zenne]

Downtown Detroit alleys get the smashing.

If a lot of people are walking/biking around your area, alleys aren't a bad idea at all.

thats true, but if you want to get noticed, street side. alley ways are more for practice in my opinion.

[DeeSquared]

all yall some pussys shit one time i straight up bombed the shit outta this place i stragiht go king status on naw mean, in front of like idk ten, twenty, a huned, maybe thousand *****s i said if any of em tried to play hero id kill em

[BigBlueViolence]

FUCK YEAH NlGGA

FUCK DA POLlCE

BOMB DA FUCKlN SYSTEM, NlGGA

GET DAT MONEY

[CrustOner]

hey, why didn't your ***** get wordfiltered?

[BigBlueViolence]

lower case L = capital I

[CrustOner]

a-ha!

[punkrocklove]

yo i started writing bout 2 years ago...im starting to sketch now and my only real big problem as of now is doing the 3d. im from MIAMI and im also a girl.. can someone help me with that? if you want ill post some flix of my sketches

[SPRAY yoface407]

so youve been writing for 2 years and cant do 3d? how does that happen

[punkrocklove]

na ive been tryin to work on my handstyle first then everything else. ive been fuckin with my handstyle for about a good year and a half before i tried to piece. now ive been sketching for roughly 6 months and i need help with my 3d.. whats the big rush anyways dude

[proNYNJA]

go to the "new to graffiti: start here" thread
heres the link
http://www.bombingscience.com/graffitiforum/showthread.php?t=2185
there should be some help in there

now what do you guys think the good and the bad things are about going mobbing on the weekends?
like friday and saturday

edit: and how big is and average bomb?

[SPRAY yoface407]

whats the rush ? so 3 years u get ur 3d down and 10 years u get ur piece down wtf sorry im so critical but u need to step it up if u want people to take u serious

[SPRAY yoface407]

[QUOTE=proNYNJA;1421059]go to the "new to graffiti: start here" thread
heres the link
http://www.bombingscience.com/graffitiforum/showthread.php?t=2185
there should be some help in there

now what do you guys think the good and the bad things are about going mobbing on the weekends?
like friday and saturday

edit: and how big is and average bomb?[/QUO


there is no average man go as big as u can arms length high so people an read and see that shit

[raid123]

heyy, im just wondering what materials u need for stickers? ive looked in the tools and tips thingo but i couldnt find anything, unless i havent looked hard enough

[bountyhunter113]

^ markers + stickers..

get free stickers from local post office..

[zenne]

heyy, im just wondering what materials u need for stickers? ive looked in the tools and tips thingo but i couldnt find anything, unless i havent looked hard enough

-facepalm-

[TheMurderousMisterMero_]

here,use mine...

http://assets.knowyourmeme.com/i/1582/original/picard-facepalm.jpg

[punkrocklove]

whats the rush ? so 3 years u get ur 3d down and 10 years u get ur piece down wtf sorry im so critical but u need to step it up if u want people to take u serious

dam dude...i seriously wish i was just like you

[zenne]

thanks, mister mero.

[DUNSY]

i'm going to buy my first krink 71 (purple) and i was wondering if you can refill them with another color ?

[zenne]

yes you can, you can unscrew the top. ill sell you my k71 for cheap. its like 4/5 full purple.

[proNYNJA]

imma start collecting the k-71 i got a blue, black , red, and purple. i need a whole bunch more colors =/

[DUNSY]

yes you can, you can unscrew the top. ill sell you my k71 for cheap. its like 4/5 full purple.

it will probably take forever to get here...
but maybe howmuch?

[LeaksOne]

imma start collecting the k-71 i got a blue, black , red, and purple. i need a whole bunch more colors =/

fuck krink. they over charge like a bitch.

[EGO31]

agreed. But they do fucking rock.

[zenne]

they overcharge, which is why i said ill sell it for cheap... dunsy what state/country do you live in? shipping to europe only takes like 5-7 days. ill trade it to you, what do you got? (im assuming you dont use american currency)

[proNYNJA]

whats the good and bad things about going out on weekends?
cuz imma needa start bcuz im going to summer skewl 2marrow and i cant go out on sunday nights anymore

[StayHyE]

what do you guys use to outline the letters before the fill? black prisma and fine point sharpies arent doing it for me

[TheMurderousMisterMero_]

i outline after the fill personally. whether im drawing or bombing..


and to answer pro's question...its not as suspicious if a teenager is out late on a saturday then it is on a tuesday or something and the curfew is usually like 12 if your under eigtheen(check the laws first) the downside of painting on the weekends is that there is more people out on weekends and they tend to stay out later becuase their not doing shit for 2 days anyways.except getting drunk and going to church.that means your more likely to run into someone who might throws some hurdles your way but i wouldnt trip to hard about it jus watch your back really.

[Mr yarbles]

sundays are the shit for tagging
No one is out like all day

also
any holiday, the superbowl or any other major game , and alot of other times are all prime to get out and bomb
Espcially the superbowl
NOBODY is out at all

[TheMurderousMisterMero_]

i disagree.on holidays people(at least where im from) get shitfaced drunk and theres always alot of cops out on holidays lookin for drunk drivers and fights and shit...

[Mr yarbles]

I'm talking roun 7-11 or so is the golden time
and on sporting events like the superbowl obviously during the day

idk I always get up around 7 or so then come home at nine
It's funny cus everyone I talk to tells me I'm crazy but whatever

[LeaksOne]

that would be cool at the expense of missing the superbowl. how bout the world series? or big events in your city when the cops are all occupied and everybodys at the function. dont forget to check for cameras. there startin to show up everywhere. oh and a heads up in my city they some how have police helicopters that are silent and one night they caught some people bombin and they got booked.

[proNYNJA]

i know same here, in my city they put helicopters out like every 2 hours to check the tracks, the wash, under bridges, and other bombing spots

i wanna start hitting the tracks but every time im walking by it i can hear helicopters in the distance, i thought it would be good if u hide under the train car since the copters have inferred cameras and they cant see you under the train car, but then i heard that trains crash into those sometimes and i dont want my head taken off, so wheres a good spot to hide if you think a helicopters coming to get you?

[TheMurderousMisterMero_]

its good to know your surroundings and know how to run fast.i mean its pretty fucking hard to run from a helicopter.me and a few friends had to do it...and the only reason why we didnt get cuaght is becuase something more important was happening somehwere else and they needed the chopper there.but yeah you wont out run one in any form or fashion the trick is to get out of its sights long enough to hide until its gone.but most likely your fucked and are gonna get caught.have fun in jail.

[LeaksOne]

yea helicopters are a bitch. those infared cameras are a god send to them. unless you know how to drastically drop your body temp like mero said enjoy your time in jail

[proNYNJA]

thats why im not gunna try to run imma try to hide before it sees me

[klic]

how badly do prismas bleed through paper?
and how should i go about telling the rents that i write? (i live in the middle of nowhere and they dont know anything about graffiti)

[BigBlueViolence]

Why would you tell them?
If they find out, then they find out.
If not, then fuck it.

[klic]

because im going away for the week and a ton of stickers are going to show up in the mail

[BigBlueViolence]

Are you young enough for them to be going through your mail?

Just tell them you like stickers, you're putting them on a skateboard/bike/whatever

[klic]

what do you mean by young enough for them to be going through my mail? im 15, everythings getting sent to our families mailbox so my parents will find it and theyll make me show them whats in it.

i might as well tell them, im not too worried about them getting angry, it should just make for an awkward conversation

[BigBlueViolence]

Why would they make you show them what's in it?

I guess my ma is down as hell,
because my business is my business.

Tell them if you want, homie.

[CrustOner]

Prismas bleed like fuck, but only through one paper. I suggest a bleeding page. and I don't know your parents, so I won't assume they will just toss your mail in your room.

[PYT!TLC!]

Hey guys, this is a pretty stupid question.
I've been fucking with elmer's painters markers lately, some of them leaked and got on my hands.
I forgot to wash most of it off and now my hands are itchy as HELL.
has this ever happened to anyone? or should i just buy decos instead of painters.

As for the parents, I would just tell them that you have a fetish for stickers lol. that would make an awkward conversation, but it might be better than them finding out you graff and fucking flipping. but i don't know your parents lol.

[JustChillin]

how do u make stencils and were do u get them?

[zenne]

how do u make stencils and were do u get them?
facepalm.

Hey guys, this is a pretty stupid question.
I've been fucking with elmer's painters markers lately, some of them leaked and got on my hands.
I forgot to wash most of it off and now my hands are itchy as HELL.
has this ever happened to anyone? or should i just buy decos instead of painters.
use decos. i dont think theres been a minute since i started using decos that my hands have been paint-free. i always have paint and shit on my hands, so i dont worry about it. that shits not coming off unless your skin comes off with it. idk about the elmer shit, i dont know what chemicals it uses, but you might be allergic. stop using them. if they contain xylene, dont use decos either.

klic, legally, they are not allowed to open your mail. at least not in the US. just tell them you collect stickers, and tell them its legal to put them up (even if its not) and then they wont care if they notice you putting them up. the way i see it, is id rather be the one telling my parents about things rather than the pigs.

[BigBlueViolence]

Elmers don't have xylene in them.

Xylene is really bad to have on your skin for prolonged periods, btw

[zenne]

well, i mean i wash my hands/shower regularly, im not dirty, lol. the paint just sticks for a few days, shits hard to get off unless you scrub super hard, then your left with a rash.

[TheMurderousMisterMero_]

Elmers don't have xylene in them.

Xylene is really bad to have on your skin for prolonged periods, btw

word.sharpies have xylene in them...just wanted to point out that there is NOT enough xylene in markers(usually) to fuck you up like that so don trip.who ever asked about xylene that is.

[BigBlueViolence]

I was just sayin',
because decos have warnings and shit on them

[klic]

klic, legally, they are not allowed to open your mail. at least not in the US. just tell them you collect stickers, and tell them its legal to put them up (even if its not) and then they wont care if they notice you putting them up. the way i see it, is id rather be the one telling my parents about things rather than the pigs.

yeah, but its my parents lol. im not going to take them to court for opening up my mail

[proNYNJA]

what cap works better for filling in bars, astro fats, or pink dots.

[zenne]

yeah, but its my parents lol. im not going to take them to court for opening up my mail

threats work equally well.

[LeaksOne]

what cap works better for filling in bars, astro fats, or pink dots.

depends how big your bar is. i would think astro fats are for big throwies tho cuz those are ginormous. so to be safe pink dot. why not ny fats tho?

[proNYNJA]

i got tons of ny fats i'll see how they work okay thanx

[RhodeIsland]

pink dots & astro fats = can killers

[Dont Post my flix]

Fuck toys

[proNYNJA]

ight ignoring this guys retarded troll,

is there sumfin wrong wit me? ever since i went out for the first time i just have the urge to go painting every night and i do, but pretty soon imma run outta paint and i might start jacking people for paint. is there sumfin wrong with me?

[CrustOner]

Yes. Don't steal from people. Steal the paint :D

[proNYNJA]

okay i wont steal form peepz, i will steal 4rm home depo!

and yes i know i ask alotta questions but ive only been write fo a couple of months so deal with them!

now theres a roof top spot that has like a 4-6 foot tall wall, i have like about half a can of pink spray and like less then a quarter of a can of black spray, so should i hit it?

[StayHyE]

so what markers do you guys use to outline your burners?

[TheMurderousMisterMero_]

???

most cats dont do that that i know of.ive only seen like european cats do that.but i mean probably like a masterpiece or someshit.something big like that.

[TaxThis]

???

most cats dont do that that i know of.ive only seen like european cats do that.but i mean probably like a masterpiece or someshit.something big like that.

its probly cuz u sit on the computer all day tryin to look tough. u obv dont have many friends

[TheMurderousMisterMero_]

fuck friends and worry about yourself...im on for like a hour a two at the most unless i feel like not doing anything.its none of your business what i do with my life dont worry about it.and on top of that what does that have to do with that statement? nothing...

[Camer]

Anyone got any good advice for drawing throwies? Ive been at it for a month but I always think they could be better cause I don't wanna clutter up the streets with any unpracticed bullshit. I learned that lesson now that I see shameful toy tags with more add ons than letters from like 8 months ago everywhere.

[Stuck]

dont do n e thing for a couple months.... fuck drawing throws for now only draw tags....its like learning to walk b4 u run once u got a tag go out and tag everything with markers and cans...this will help u get ur can control...while ur out tagging at home u can be workin on ur throws...remember one step at a time but chances r ur gona drop outa the game b4 ur first ten steps

[RhodeIsland]

Yes. Don't steal from people. Steal the paint :D

What you've never ran up on kids painting the tracks or some shit and jacked em? It's happened to me n I've done it back, its all love. lol

[RhodeIsland]

dont do n e thing for a couple months.... fuck drawing throws for now only draw tags....its like learning to walk b4 u run once u got a tag go out and tag everything with markers and cans...this will help u get ur can control...while ur out tagging at home u can be workin on ur throws...remember one step at a time but chances r ur gona drop outa the game b4 ur first ten steps

If you can't even drawn a throwie on paper then you shouldn't been using paint at all. Fuck tags and throws work on your bars.

[TheMurderousMisterMero_]

[QUOTE=TaxThis][QUOTE=TheMurderousMisterMero_]i think we got off on the wrong foot.hi my name is mero.whats yours? :)

evow fsu.

u look like an idiot, just drop it.


hi evow.why are you such a tool?serious question and im looking for a serious answer.

cuz i grew up in the ghetto. why are u such a fucking loser ass toy who cant step away from his computer screen?
HAHAHAHA!!! cuz i grew up in the ghetto.one that wasnt what i asked.nor does it have anything to do with the fact your a tool and im guessing your a 13/14 yo white boy who lives in the suburbs.what hood are you from?name it.where you from?QUOTE]

surrey bc.
why the fuck do u jus harras kids? do u feel tough?
surrey bc doesnt say shit.what hood are you from and what does that have to do with you being a tool.that is the question.answer THAT question.

your the fucking tool. come find me bitch i live on 178st fuckin cunt. ill be waiting with a bat and a fat cap to tag ur body with after.
your lameness has no end.lawls.go kill yourself.


thats what i thought bitch, hide behind your screen pussy.
im tempted to put this in the good afternoon thread just to show everyone how much of a joke you are.seriously shut the fuck up and die already.

i had to put this up just to show how much of a faggot you are tax.i told you id do it and i wasnt lying.your full of shit and a tool.go die you fucking cunt.AND YOU STILL DIDNT ANSWER MY QUESTION!!

[Camer]

dont do n e thing for a couple months.... fuck drawing throws for now only draw tags....its like learning to walk b4 u run once u got a tag go out and tag everything with markers and cans...this will help u get ur can control...while ur out tagging at home u can be workin on ur throws...remember one step at a time but chances r ur gona drop outa the game b4 ur first ten steps

This has nothing to do with what I asked. I already have a tag thats half decent, I'm talking about fucking throws man. Also theres no fuckin way im droppin outta the game, Ive already been in it long enough to catch the addiction.

[proNYNJA]

What you've never ran up on kids painting the tracks or some shit and jacked em? It's happened to me n I've done it back, its all love. lol

well i would do soem shit liek that but
1) im 5 foot tall rockin glasses
and
2) most the writers around here are 6 foot tall, obese mutha fuckin tag bangers.

im the only one in my area that didn't get into tagging bcuz its "bad ass" i got into it cuz i got nuttin to do on the weekends

[klic]

^know what your saying. being a scrawny 5'7'" white kid sucks haha

[BigBlueViolence]

Being a 6'2" beefy white kid does not suck.

[PYT!TLC!]

Hey guys, what camera do you use to take pics of your tags on the streets?
Not that I'm gonna go out and tag all the dumpsters that exist in my town tonight, but what camera do you guys use without looking suspicious?
And do you take a pic right after you write, or like a week later? :p