Toy Questions

[.nolove.]

Now i cant jack off tonight after watching that video

this is where we differ my friend...






spankwire here i come!

[FrEEk_nine-o-fizzle]

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

i lol'd

[massacreman]

stop the fucking exploding cat thing, im sitting with my cat on my hand right now and these animals dont deserve to be treated that way, you are pathethic when you do such thing or even think its lol.

[Flawless Victory]

lT'S NOT LOL MOTHERFUCKERS,
lT'S NOT LOL AT ALL.

[n8galicia]

okay, one more toy question....could someone explain the basics of using chisel tips to tag? I know it may sound ludicrous, but just like what looks good and what not lol

[TheToy]

Now i cant jack off tonight after watching that video

Wuss. :p

[Flawless Victory]

okay, one more toy question....could someone explain the basics of using chisel tips to tag? I know it may sound ludicrous, but just like what looks good and what not lol
hold it like \ or like __ , but not like|

[EveryoneHatesYou]

Hey, do you think Deco colors are good?

[OOPS!]

For tags or blackbooking? I'd take prismas before decos for blackbooks..

[n8galicia]

when outlining in blackbooks, would you use a fine-tip like the OTR.202 or a extra thin tip like those Pilot Razor pens

[xSonnyTx]

Use whatever you want homie

Hell at my level my stuffs to shitty to really deserve color. If I outline its a black pen or at most one of those thin sharpies haha

[gumOnShoe]

hold it like \ or like __ , but not like|
yeah, that. i've also been told to hold the chisel one way while going through the tag. so like you hold hold it like "/" and you keep it in that position till your done with the tag.
chisel tips>AAALLLL

[skull-e]

who cares how you hold your marker

if you have to hold it in a certain position to catch a hand, do it

you don't need to learn how to hold a marker.

[KidReny!]

that was a dumb question
hold that shit to wat makes u feel comfortable
theres a good way to write, not a good way to hold ur marker

[iDeemyouSiren]

Yeah what Reny said its more really how you do it than how the fuck you hold a marker

[n8galicia]

if you cared to look back, it wasn't how to hold a marker. it was how to get the best lines out of a chisel tip

[proNYNJA]

okay i have a problem, my mom knows i write now and she stopped giving me money when she found out so i can't buy any more cans, so
what's the easiest retail store to rack paint from?

[RADAWG]

Lol wow

[EveryoneHatesYou]

What does you guys think of this idea:
1. get a bunch of sharpies (same color.)
2. get one of those little gatorade bottles.
3. take out the part of the sharpie with the ink.
4. fill the bottle 3/4 of the way with rubbing alcohol
5. put in the shapie things.
6. let sit over night.
7. take out ink put in a marker.

??????

[Chippey]

regular sized sharpies? id think youd have to get quite a few of them if you want a dark colour. Wont know until you try, inks are all about experimenting.

[Fury]

3/4 of the bottle with rubbing alcohol? That shit's gonna be watery.
How about 1/4? Still though, you're gonna need a fuckload of sharpies: time to hit the flea market.

[prefer]

What does you guys think of this idea:
1. get a bunch of sharpies (same color.)
2. get one of those little gatorade bottles.
3. take out the part of the sharpie with the ink.
4. fill the bottle 3/4 of the way with rubbing alcohol
5. put in the shapie things.
6. let sit over night.
7. take out ink put in a marker.

??????

i've seen something like this done befor except with ink pens???? it might, try it out let me know how it came out.

[prefer]

Hey, do you think Deco colors are good?

do you mean like what are they like?

[TheToy]

I thought you were gonna' be making a jumbo mop with the gatorade/sharpie idea. That'd be sick. Lol.

To the kid that can't get money for cans no more...bite the bullet homey. Don't resort to stealing. It'll bite you in the ass someday. Try and get a little part time job or slang some D.

[n8galicia]

a question about throwies..when I do'em on paper should I still use bars? idk when I look at throwie comps, it doesn't seem like they use em

[TheToy]

There are no rules about bars!!!!!!!!

Use them if they help you.

I wouldn't use them on a throw. Unless it's a straight letter throw.

[CrAzOnEr!]

well i use decos but i have to put another peice of paper on the bottom because it leaks threw.

[TrikAssHoe!]

is there a thread on racking period not just paint,markers,books and shit?

[Fury]

There used to be, but was taken down. I thought there was another in the tips board, but I could be mistaken.

[TrikAssHoe!]

i looked through a few pages or two in the tips and couldnt find any racking threads. but i'm trying to find out how i can cop a $400 North Face jacket lol

[Fury]

I'm not a pro at racking clothes, but walk in, grab, walk out?

[TrikAssHoe!]

cant be that simple.

[CrustOner]

It is, often. Or just grab it and fucking run.

[TrikAssHoe!]

i mean you think if i just like took it off the rack and tried it on and just walked out i'd be fine? i normally dont ask about this shit but i've never racked clothes before just blackbooks and markers.

[OOPS!]

How big is the store? That's risky as fuck. Idk.

[CrustOner]

yeah, it's pretty bulky, you can't exactly shove it down your pants. You could stick it in a cart and just walk out with it, and have a receipt from something else to flash. If they start to follow you outside, ditch it and run. Or, depending on if they'll chase you once you're off their property, you could take it with you. Just be fast.

[RADAWG]

I got myself a northface from macys..just brought in an old macys bag, stuffed some shirts i already had in there walked in grabbed the coat went to a safe spot put it in the bag and walked out. Get out quick though dont linger around waiting for the right moment...just walk over make sure no ones looking and then get outa there

[CrustOner]

Make sure you rip off any magnetic tags. That's what sets off the beepers. If it has an ink thing, you're pretty much fucked. I don't know a way around that.

[TrikAssHoe!]

How big is the store? That's risky as fuck. Idk.

it's a vernon powells. it's pretty big but there's a lot of people who work in different departments. i think they're might be a couple cameras in each; not sure.

[Flawless Victory]

if you want it bad enough, then take it.
Weigh the pros and cons and decide for yourself.

[TrikAssHoe!]

yeah, it's pretty bulky, you can't exactly shove it down your pants. You could stick it in a cart and just walk out with it, and have a receipt from something else to flash. If they start to follow you outside, ditch it and run. Or, depending on if they'll chase you once you're off their property, you could take it with you. Just be fast.

idk about that. i'm not down to get chased for a coat.

[CrustOner]

Then start a piggy bank, *****.

[TrikAssHoe!]

fuck it! the next time i'm up there i'm snatching the bitch. i'll do the bag shit RADAWG did.

[Fury]

If you feel sketchy, don't do it; that shit will bite you in the ass.

[weakfingers]

My homie just got caught racking clothes. its really not worth it if your gonna have a hard time stealing it. Zellers, Wallmart, Kmart and Target are really hard on that shoplifting shit. Multiple friends of mine have gotten caugt stealing from there.

Heres a quick tip. Go to the front and buy it like you normally would but go during a busy time and choose the register that looks like it will close down when it gets dead, get the cashier to bag it while you search for your debit card. After you lose your debit card tell he/she youll come back in about 20 minuts and pay for it. chill out for 4 hours and then go back near closing time and hopefully your shit will be at the cash register still in the bag, just walk by grab it and walk out if anybody asks you a question you could say you where shopping today and forgot a bag at the store and just came back to grab it. also go to a store youll never go to again.

I personally dont shop lift, I have a couple times for the rush and since its apart of graffiti but it can turn into a habit pretty fast. Plus once your above 18 that shit gets put onto your permanent record and plus if the cops came into my house and saw my room id be fucked....

[faser]

Make sure you rip off any magnetic tags. That's what sets off the beepers. If it has an ink thing, you're pretty much fucked. I don't know a way around that.

Yo ink tags dont set any alarms off so you only worry about that when you're safe at home. You can shove it in the freezer and cut it off when it freezes over, or cut around the material on the clothes - maybe put a plastic bag or two around so ink doesnt go on clothes (there will be a small hole though, just sew it up).

[MyManRoyGBiv!]

I used to rack like all my supplies, until I got fucked over for something really stupid. I find that once your just taking all your paint and never paying for it you get so complacent about taking just about anything, that it doesn't even matter if there are cameras or not or people around you just take that shit. I think now it adds just too much sketch to my lifestyle as it is, like chances are if your racking paint and they catch you and search your bag even if your smart enough to not bring your blackbook chances are some markers or loose sketches are kicking around in there. Not too mention if you have weed and shit on you too thats just another thing they'd love to fuck you over for. Be on your shit if you go racking, know what your doing and never think your not gonna get caught.

[Black Flag]

I don't condone racking, but for that north face jacket, what store is it in? If its a chain, go to a separate location, rack whatever high value items you can, return them to a different store, use the store credit to get a discount.

[TrikAssHoe!]

I used to rack like all my supplies, until I got fucked over for something really stupid. I find that once your just taking all your paint and never paying for it you get so complacent about taking just about anything, that it doesn't even matter if there are cameras or not or people around you just take that shit. I think now it adds just too much sketch to my lifestyle as it is, like chances are if your racking paint and they catch you and search your bag even if your smart enough to not bring your blackbook chances are some markers or loose sketches are kicking around in there. Not too mention if you have weed and shit on you too thats just another thing they'd love to fuck you over for. Be on your shit if you go racking, know what your doing and never think your not gonna get caught.

^ word. and if you do get caught you better hope your book or anything's in your car. they'll search that bitch too. plus if you're getting up and they find a book in your car or some paint or shit you're pretty much fucked; you never know if crackers are on you or not.

[TrikAssHoe!]

I don't condone racking, but for that north face jacket, what store is it in? If its a chain, go to a separate location, rack whatever high value items you can, return them to a different store, use the store credit to get a discount.

it's in a Vernon Powell. it's pretty sketchy though.
i mean i rack shit that i NEED. i dont just do it for a rush like most people.times are tough man.like shit to help me with graff, ill take. even my parents rack shit. this is off topic but the other weekend me and my mom went to walmart and we stole a couple 6 dollar ornaments for the tree lol

[Fury]

What do you spray on a fence so that way, the wood doesn't eat up the paint you spray on it?

[RetaredElephatButtSex]

try using kilz spray apint as a fill then outline it right withe a good blackk

[skull-e]

I suggest when using kilz, you keep using the stock cap, it'l work better than any other cap on that paint

and for a good black

ultra flat krylon
flat black tremclad
or any kind of black painters touch

[Flawless Victory]

It's kind of hard to fuck up a black, honestly.

[TheToy]

If you painted you'd know that Colorplace Black is awful.

[Flawless Victory]

yeah yeah yeah,
more bullshit talk about how I never paint.
Sorry I can buy good paint for a dollar and don't shop at wal mart.

[JustChillin]

can i have a style?

[-Empty-Can-]

If you painted you'd know that Colorplace Black is awful.

Don't ever get dutch-boy black. It's some k-mart paint. It's seriously like colored water.

[Black Flag]

If you painted you'd know that Colorplace Black is awful.

Colorplace, ugggg. Shits not even worth a dollar. The only thing I would use it for is if I had a practice sheet or plywood in my backyard. Or maybe some giant simps or something, but I don't even like doing handies with it.

[TheToy]

Colorplace, ugggg. Shits not even worth a dollar. The only thing I would use it for is if I had a practice sheet or plywood in my backyard. Or maybe some giant simps or something, but I don't even like doing handies with it.

That's why it's like 97 cents, haha. Even Wal-Mart knows it ain't worth a buck. The sales tax is high in MA so it's like WTF! I have to pay more than a dollar for this waterpaint in a can?

I was usin' the black for grimey fills on simple throws and it barely covered the rust on the freight. :(

Don't even get me started when it comes to using that stuff on virgin concrete. :o

[Fury]

All I've been able to buy are $1 cans from Lowes, and they're alright, not watery though. Black & White ftw for now.

[TheToy]

Do they have the funny can? Like the ones that are just tapered up at the top near the valve, kind of like a can of butane or silly string. Without the ring and normal tops that ColorPlace, Rusto, Belton has...

Ive been seeing more of these pop up but Im leary of trying them out. I don't think my description is very good but I don't know how to word it.

If anyone knows what Im talking about, do any aftermarket caps work on them shits?

[Fury]

I don't quite get what you mean, but they look like any ordinary spray cans. The rustos work on them, haven't tried other caps on them yet, since I don't want cloggage or them to leak.

[OOPS!]

Just take a couple caps to the store and test the fit..

[TheToy]

http://img.alibaba.com/photo/11200870/Refillable_Butane_Candle.jpg

They kind of look like this at the top. Like torpedo's or something. Tapered up.

Last time I brought some caps to Lowe's and started trying them on shit like Valspar, some employee asked me if I need help with anything. And we got into a crazy conversation about paint. He kept asking me what I was using it for. So I had to kill his bitch ass. Right there in the aisle.

:o

[-Empty-Can-]

I think lowes has a dollar brand thats tapered like that if thats what your talking about.

You should have straight up told him what you would be using it for. He wouldn't know what to say lol

[TheToy]

Ya, those are the cans I'm talkin' about. You ever use any?

I always get ID'd at Wal-Mart when I buy paint. I usually give them a funny look and say something like, 'Do I look like a kid that paints graffiti?' or 'Ya, Im totally spay paintin' funny faces behind the store.' Always get funny looks. But they don't push the ID thing.

[-Empty-Can-]

'Ya, Im totally spay paintin' funny faces behind the store.'
I lol'd

I never used them. I know king gezra has a review on youtube though.

I cant buy paint yet but theres a store around here where I don't think they ask for ID. I got paint with with a friend at wal-mart before and they lady just looked at his ID and didnt care.

[Fury]

I've never been asked for ID from anywhere. I am over 18, but I don't look it.
You can just ask a friend or make a fake ID, I doubt they'd really do anything about it, just hold it in your hand and don't let them take it.

[TheToy]

One time I was getting a bunch of cans of Rusto at Wally World. I had a basket full of the basics. A few cans of ColorPlace white and black in the mix.

The kid at the checkout asked me if I was going to paint graffiti. I looked down at all the colors and was like, 'Nah, these colors suck.' and he goes 'Well, maybe just the white and black would be sick.'

At first I was like, what? seriously? But then when I really thought about it, he must write cause we all know that white/black are raw. Straight up old school. Can't go wrong.

[graff4ever]

doe's any 1 know where i can buy ironlak on the internet in australia i know 1 place that sell's it on the internet but 4 1 to about 10 cans can shipping is $45 its bulls**t

[weakfingers]

The toy- Hows is that a question and it sounded like a lame porno. Everytime I buy paint I get the "do you paint graffiti" question.

anywayzzzzzzzz here a video I made for you guys to help you to rack the jacket and other things. I know some guy wanted to rack a coat a couple pagez back. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1dT97flVPc



dont forget to leave me your coimmentz!

[Fury]

^ I'm just laughing at the comments.

[CrustOner]

hahaha 5 minutes of him sticking things in his pants..

[TheToy]

The toy- Hows is that a question and it sounded like a lame porno. Everytime I buy paint I get the "do you paint graffiti" question.

Weren't you supposed to be taking a break from BS to focus on your artwork?

You're still here.

[weakfingers]

Yeah, that doesent mean i cant come in here once and a while and comment?

Your still an instigator...


And if you wanna reply keep it to the pm's

[TheToy]

You're still an instigator...

Fixed...

[medacog1]

what color goes with gold? force field wise.

[Fury]

Try red or blue? Not sure.

Actually brown may work too

[DukeOne]

what color goes with gold? force field wise.


almost any colour can work with gold, whats ur outline colour gonna be? ive seen some dope gold peices with gold fills and dark blue or purple outlines and white force fields

[Flawless Victory]

I would go with a vibrant color, red, blue, white, purple. some shit that will give it pop rather than just a background.

[-Empty-Can-]

what color goes with gold? force field wise.

I think a gold fill, black outline and white 2nd outline comes out nicely.

[n8galicia]

alright, I'm trying to decide what to buy. There's a 6 pack of Krink K-71's on ******** and the Krink X-mas Special on BS (with mops, the steel-tip, K-71, K-70, and K-42). Which one would you guys go for? They're both about the same price at $50 bucks. :confused:

[CrustOner]

You aren't saving much. I was happy with Stampendous Mops and Ghetto Krink. for skinny handstyles, I used Prestos and Pentel Whites (Those suck, in my opinion.)

I've also seen someone use a Visine bottle filled with ink..

DUDE, THAT REMINDS ME. What happened to Mero?!

[Flawless Victory]

He's still around...

[CrustOner]

Where? Has he migrated to the Picture Forum?

[DukeOne]

does anyone no of markers that are similar to Krink squeeze marker (K-60), like size wise that i can get from like walmart or something? basically i need/want a white paint marker thats going to drip but not be as huge as a shoe polish mop

ug probally just gonna have to make one

[n8galicia]

I don't think you can buy one..idk if Window Markers (the ones with a circle tip) can do that. but prolly just fill a Kiwi with paint

[CrustOner]

Go to Michael's or JoAnn's.

Get a Stamp Cleaner, they look like this: http://www.michaels.com/art/online/displayProductPage?productNum=pc01343

They have sponge nibs, and are circle. Window Markers suck, because they don't screw on. And this is super small. fits right in your pocket. You can fit like 4 in a pocket depending on how big your pockets are.

And yes, window markers can do that.

[graff4ever]

doe's any 1 know where i can buy ironlak on the internet in australia i know 1 place that sell's it on the internet but 4 1 to about 10 cans can shipping is $45 its bulls**t

bump

[prefer]

so guys, i think im too paranoid to ever do graff illegally

[Flawless Victory]

okay, cool.

[TheToy]

so guys, i think im too paranoid to ever do graff illegally

I think you joined the wrong forum...

[-Empty-Can-]

I think you joined the wrong forum...

Actually no, because nobody on here paints anyway.

[copstee]

exactly^ the toy dont you only paint underneath your deck on a tarp all the time? so shut the fuck up.

[OOPS!]

Nobody writes graffiti. The government places it strategically to bust and punish kids for nothing.

[n8galicia]

Graffiti is one of the ways the government puts black peoples in jail. Just like they spread AIDS and HIV

[TheToy]

Actually no, because nobody on here paints anyway.

Lol. True. Hang on a few minutes.

[del4sel]

What's the best tool for scratches

[Fury]

Personally, I just use a dime. It doesn't work very well, but eh.

[Bazer]

What's the best tool for scratches

the horn chip from a rhinoceros

[sinkilla1]

best scratch tool you tak a big poop put it in the freezer and rap it in some tape then boom you go bombing and if you play for the gay tam it can also be a dildo

[del4sel]

i usually just get a big hard on for your mom and run in to a wall with it haha

[n8galicia]

What's the best tool for scratches

i dunno if this is true, but I have heard that some police departments take pictures of scratch tags.

[gumOnShoe]

LOL, ya' think?

[CrustOner]

Police departments take pictures of EVERY tag, dumbass. Every tag they buff, at least.

[skull-e]

i used to think that, but do you think that a tired old transit janitor goes on a bus at night and tries to make out all the tags and write them down before buffing them?

meh

dont think so

[NeVeR4O1]

a rock is the best scratch tool imo

[n8galicia]

for mops (my first time buying them, I might consider making my own later but....) would you recommend the Junobo over the krink 4oz and k-60?

[Flawless Victory]

dude, invest your money in a half pint can of rusto and a can of thinner,
then go buy/boost some kiwi shoe polish and bingo daubers.
find a non plastic container to mix the paint and thinner in, normally 1 unit thinner for every 4 units paint.
mix that shit up good.
Now empty all of your applicators, rinse them out good, and take the regulator out of the nib.
Don't fill the markers until soon before you use them, the thinner tends to soften/collapse the marker bodies.

a lot more bang for your buck.

http://intendo.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/thumbs_up_man_smalljpg.jpg

[haze4life]

lool for realz tho, those junobos last like 2 days but man do they flow well...

[n8galicia]

I heard they streak like hell too. How are the AP mops? idk, I'm just trying out but I don't feel comfortable making my own ink and shit yet lol

[weakfingers]

If you cant make simple ink just give up now. Have you poured a glass of water before? Then you can make gehtto krink/junobo.
Like flawless said just go out get a can of silver oil rusto and some oderless paint thinner and you got grog.
Besides the best markers and shit ive used/seen arent even made for graffiti. Other then krink products you can make most graffiti markers/mops

[graff4ever]

I heard they streak like hell too. How are the AP mops? idk, I'm just trying out but I don't feel comfortable making my own ink and shit yet lol

there streaky because people dont take there time with junobo u have 2 go slow when u write with it

[prefer]

a rock is the best scratch tool imo


a rock is good but guys just get a scribe I mean seriously there sick

[CrustOner]

If you want a Junobo style mop, check out the Teejuice line of "T-shirt Markers," although I have no idea why anyone would want a "Juicy" line on their T-shirt? Ah well, free AP mops.

http://www.jacquardproducts.com/products/teejuice/

Find them at JoAnn's.

[TrikAssHoe!]

Aye to the stamp cleaner!

[Flawless Victory]

stazon *****!

[LeaksOne]

where the fuck is yarbles??

[Fury]

dude, invest your money in a half pint can of rusto and a can of thinner,
then go buy/boost some kiwi shoe polish and bingo daubers.
find a non plastic container to mix the paint and thinner in, normally 1 unit thinner for every 4 units paint.
mix that shit up good.
Now empty all of your applicators, rinse them out good, and take the regulator out of the nib.
Don't fill the markers until soon before you use them, the thinner tends to soften/collapse the marker bodies.

a lot more bang for your buck.

http://intendo.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/thumbs_up_man_smalljpg.jpg

I've never dealt with bucket paint before, but does it come with something that you can scoop it with, or do you just pour it into a funnel (that leads into a metal jar) or something else I may be missing?

[faser]

Yo it comes with paint in a bucket, that's what you're paying for *****.
Usually brushes or rollers are used to apply bucket paint, these are generally sold seperately.
You need a lever, IE: a screwdriver to open the lid of a paint bucket.
Dawg, shit's obvious to anyone.

[Fury]

I'm not asking about how to open a bucket of paint,
I'm asking how do you get the paint from the bucket into the jar without spilling that shit everywhere.

[gumOnShoe]

use one of these.
http://www.performance-oils.co.uk/acatalog/funnelset.jpg

[CrustOner]

OH, and only use Oil-based bucket paint.

[OOPS!]

Lol @ "does it come with something to scoop it with?"

[Fury]

^ wasn't quite sure of the word usage haha.

And thanks Crust.

[TrikAssHoe!]

ok i wrote down the alphabet and got

A C E G H K R S V Y

anybody help me come up with something?

[gumOnShoe]

EGGY, AVOR( AVEK ) VYSE (VISE) AEKER (sounds like ACRE) i could go on....

[TrikAssHoe!]

is it safe for you to put your real name and zip code when youre signing up for a new email? like if oyu had an investigation on you, you couldnt get nabbed for that shit could you?

[gumOnShoe]

lol, people put there REAL names on emails?
i always put like FUCKER, SHITHEAD, and funny stuff like that.

[TrikAssHoe!]

haha i'll put Steven Watson hahahaha!
what about a zip code?
oh gum, i was fucking around with EGGY and did some flip flopping and came out with EGNOR and thought it sounded pretty tight.

[gumOnShoe]

I'm not asking about how to open a bucket of paint,
I'm asking how do you get the paint from the bucket into the jar without spilling that shit everywhere.

fuck it, if you haven't already got your hands on the bucket yet, do what flawless victory said to do.
these little fuckers are all you'll need.
http://img.epinions.com/images/opti/16/35/6666200020066777951.pre-resized200.jpg

[gumOnShoe]

haha i'll put Steven Watson hahahaha!
what about a zip code?
oh gum, i was fucking around with EGGY and did some flip flopping and came out with EGNOR and thought it sounded pretty tight.

Haha, that sounds TOUGH! stick with that!

[TrikAssHoe!]

i will mang! i'm deleting this account and making a new one.
THEREALMCCOY muthafuckas!!

[gumOnShoe]

i will mang! i'm deleting this account and making a new one.
THEREALMCCOY muthafuckas!!

you can delete accounts??
do tell.

[TrikAssHoe!]

lol i just went to the thread and it says just to stop using and create a new one. thats what imma do.

[gumOnShoe]

ok.

[Fury]

I've switched names hella times during the course of my stay on this site. Just leave it as it is, doesn't matter really.

[TrikAssHoe!]

i've already made another one i'm just waiting for the email.

[CrustOner]

Egnor sounds like a dragon's name. hahaha.

[TrikAssHoe!]

Egnor sounds like a dragon's name. hahaha.

hahahaha how?

[Firm]

So where do you guys usually put up your PM Stickers?

[TheToy]

Do you think Krylon lost a lot of business when they switched to their new fan tip system?

They have a lot of colors these days. But the Krylon section of the local Wally World always looked untouched.

Do you think their 'War against Graffiti' project may have back fired on them, somewhat?

They have so many hues now. I hate the fan tip. Grr.

[OOPS!]

hahahaha how?

rawrrrrrrrrrr. I am egnor. Who disturbs me?

[LeaksOne]

Do you think Krylon lost a lot of business when they switched to their new fan tip system?

They have a lot of colors these days. But the Krylon section of the local Wally World always looked untouched.

Do you think their 'War against Graffiti' project may have back fired on them, somewhat?

They have so many hues now. I hate the fan tip. Grr.

i think krylon is not so much in the negatives since they switched to the 360 cap since writers dont rack there shit anymore and i dont think it backfired since we werent buyin shit anyways but rusto is the way to go now so if they switch tips itll be to get out of the negatives

[xSonnyTx]

rawrrrrrrrrrr. I am egnor. Who disturbs me?

fuckin' lold.
welcome to my sig sir

[Flawless Victory]

i think krylon is not so much in the negatives since they switched to the 360 cap since writers dont rack there shit anymore and i dont think it backfired since we werent buyin shit anyways but rusto is the way to go now so if they switch tips itll be to get out of the negatives
Us racking is better for manufacturers,
just bad for the business you rack from.
Krylon and Rustoleum doesn't just give their stuff to stores,
the stores have to buy it.
When we rack, the stores have to buy more, therefore giving the manufacturer more money.

[Th3KaNgSt3R]

Hey can someone give me some tips on combining letters together. Heres something that I did but I want the letters all next to each other and combined.
My Piece
http://i49.tinypic.com/o8b7y8.jpg
How I want it to be
http://i47.tinypic.com/6ozhvs.jpg
http://i45.tinypic.com/3163rrc.jpg
So how do I combine my letters together like that? Can something point out some ways?

[xSonnyTx]

Step one would be drawing your own shit

[n8galicia]

step two would be resizing pictures, so people won't ignore your posts

[Pwnage]

some stuff i did around town made a video of it lemme know what you guys think please http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIeRR2VoTyk

[TrikAssHoe!]

is there already a racking thread?

[n8galicia]

yeh, it's like on the second page of topics though

[TrikAssHoe!]

damn:/
i was gonna make one with flicks and shit.

[n8galicia]

racking isn't really that hard, just make sure no one sees you lol. I think on the Totse boards (Zoklet now) there were some pretty gnar indepth topics on racking and shoplifting in general, with specifics and shit on store security and anti-theft systems

[TrikAssHoe!]

well i rack little shit like energy drinks, markers, blackbooks, and candy.
but like i'm trying to step my game up and get some clothes and i get too nervous when it comes to paint because of the rattling.

[Flawless Victory]

make use of the season.
I used to rack mad clothes this time of the year.
Sweaters, shirts, pants.
amazing what'll fit under a coat, man.

[n8galicia]

For clothes, it takes a little "social hacking". idk like distracting the cashier while rubbing the tag across the desensitizer thing on the counter or undoing the security tag. or just running out and order a tag hook to undo the tags once your home

[TrikAssHoe!]

i'm telling you guys one way or another i'm taking a fucking north face!

[Flawless Victory]

I always just took the time to find one without a tag.
Act like you are looking at the sizes, but you're really just feeling around for RFID strips.

[TrikAssHoe!]

but once you've got the jacket with no tags how do you take it without clerks or cameras seeing you do it?

[n8galicia]

go to changing room when there's no staff/bathroom > put it on >put clothes on over it and don't act sketch with you walk out

[TrikAssHoe!]

you sure that'll work with one of these?
http://www.thenorthface.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=38680&storeId=207&catalogId=10201&langId=-1&from=subCat&parent_category_rn=11702&variationId=K60

[n8galicia]

hmm..maybe, maybe wear one of those hugeass downjackets. where is swim racking from? REI?

[TrikAssHoe!]

say what?

[n8galicia]

what store are u racking from?

[TrikAssHoe!]

Vernon Powell. the only problem is, i'll probably go there more than once.

[Flawless Victory]

how long between visits?

[TrikAssHoe!]

shit idk. we havent gone in a while but lif we're around there my mom will usually want to go check out shoes. but the thing is my dad cops shit too and my mom will every now and then so if i come out with a $200 jacket on idk what her reaction would be.

[Fury]

Then walk there or something. Not sure how old you are, but drive?
I dunno, in my opinion, if it's something that you think you'll get busted for, don't do it. Especially if you don't need the clothes.

[TheToy]

$180 bucks for a fucking coat?

I'm totally against racking but go fuckin' steal that shit. Good luck. God speed. I hope you get that coat. Fuck retailers. Damn. That flips me out. $180 to stay warm? I'll wait till they have the winter coats at the church pantry.

That shit does not look like it's worth anywhere near $180 bucks. Nevermind $80.

[n8galicia]

north face alwyas jacks up their fucki prioces. btw PS3 cats,

anyone still play COD4, GTA or Metal Gear Online? I just hooked up my shit

[Flawless Victory]

http://i50.tinypic.com/30l2ale.png

[FrEEk_nine-o-fizzle]

AHAHAHA but on the reals, fuck sony.
im alll about the seXbox

[n8galicia]

lol ^

does the XBOX have a bluray dvd player? and is playing online free? didn't think so..

[-Empty-Can-]

north face alwyas jacks up their fucki prioces. btw PS3 cats,

anyone still play COD4, GTA or Metal Gear Online? I just hooked up my shit

Im always on COD on the weekends. Hit me with a PM

[n8galicia]

aight man. I think I saw your id on the PS3 page

[ChadWarden]

fuck you ******s. ps3 is legit. but it does have it's downs. interface sucks, like sending message and shit. but i'll deal with that if it don't mean paying for online.

but you're right, until recently the games sucked.

[n8galicia]

for messages and shit I just plug in my usb keyboard

[xSonnyTx]

lol ^

does the XBOX have a bluray dvd player? and is playing online free? didn't think so..

Lolz what good is free online service when there isn't any good games to play online

[Fury]

1/3 of all 360's get the red ring.

Just sayin'.
I'll stick to my PC Gaming, fellas.

[Flawless Victory]

I'll give you the PC man, so long as you have a nice set up.
and the red ring is because it overheats, normally because the dumbfuck that owned it didn't give the fan any space.

[OOPS!]

Mine sat in open air and got the red ring 3 times.

[FrEEk_nine-o-fizzle]

yall can say what you will but im a fucking xbox player. end of discussion. is there no toys with questions at all?

[n8galicia]

how do I get good at graffiti?

[skull-e]

lol ^

does the XBOX have a bluray dvd player? and is playing online free? didn't think so..

does my xbox have superior online than your ps3?

yes

are you a broke ass ***** who cant afford to pay 50 bucks for 12 months yes

are you the fag whos still arguing over whats better xbox or ps3 like 3 years after their release date?

yes.


now shut up and let's change topics

[.nolove.]

this coming from some canadian...








just sayin

[.nolove.]

usa
usa
usa
usa
usa
usa

[skull-e]

wadaya mean?

D:

[Fury]

how do I get good at graffiti?

Rack a hooker.

[n8galicia]

does my xbox have superior online than your ps3?

yes

are you a broke ass ***** who cant afford to pay 50 bucks for 12 months yes

are you the fag whos still arguing over whats better xbox or ps3 like 3 years after their release date?

yes.


now shut up and let's change topics

hey I live in USA, we get charged a fuckin arm and a leg for health insurance. you don't pay a damn thing

[TrikAssHoe!]

Fuck
Canada
eh?

[n8galicia]

word up son.

[mawks]

is it easier to rack from wal-mart or small hardware stores?

[OOPS!]

I find it easier to rack from wal mart. but I ALWAYS take my girl and use her purse to stash shit. I don't mess with stuffing shit in my pants

[Fury]

is it easier to rack from wal-mart or small hardware stores?

I know that half the shoppers at Wal-Mart (my local one) are secret shoppers. I'm not even exaggerating that.

But it all depends on your Wal-Mart, I guess.

[KaSo]

yo i used to work at walmart. and yeah the person you least expect it to be is the undercover. and they chill right there in the automotive section sometimes!! i had to help in a bust one time. it was crazy, man get a little job or something. that shit dont get browine points in county!! "what you in for?" "stole some spray paint" ..."wanna paint my balls?" ..."uhh ok" hahahahahaha

[KaSo]

yo i got a question now. ok as i have been looking though these forums i saw someone mention "Philly hand" and he posted his attempt. now when doing a handy form what everyone has been saying this is like a no no. or is taking a style only for pieces, throwies etc only a no no? i want to get my handy looking somewhat like the Philly one but if its consdiered biting , i'll make some shit up on my own.

[Fury]

It's not really biting, it's just a style in Philly. A lot of people think that Philly think that style of hand should stay there.

But, as with all forms of graffiti, do whatever the fuck you want.

[TrikAssHoe!]

dude the state of Delaware has stole the philly handstyle scene.
im trying to get em down. wickeds are dope.

[TheToy]

I got a pack of the translucent yellow 'Universal German Outline'. It says they work on Rusto and most domestic cans. Umm ok, it only worked on one can of Rusto I have. Out of 8 different colors. It worked on 'Sand'. It just dumped up into the cap on the others. It did not work on ColorPlace at all. It worked on Belton Molotow and Montana.

Any one else having this result on Rusto? I'm a little ticked cause they said it works on the Rusto. I love Rusto Fats and NY Thins on Rusto. Even the stock cap is nice for thin lines but I wanted something else. A little new variety for cans they have at local hardware stores. And I'm sick of Grey Dots clogging ever few minutes.

[Fury]

Too lazy to search, how do you flair?

[TheMidwestArtist]

how do you write posts?
Someone message me plx, im new to this.

[408Bomber]

tip for everoyne. The elmer spray glue's come with a astro cap now instead of a rusto!!! =]

[weakfingers]

Too lazy to search, how do you flair?

Heres how to flair. I cant really dumb it down more then this. Maybe if half you kids actually have picked up a can of paint then you would know.
You can flair either way it just depends how you do some letters
http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/tt300/2wayducttape/fornoobs.jpg
http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/tt300/2wayducttape/DSCF0735.jpg
http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/tt300/2wayducttape/DSCF8480.jpg

[408Bomber]

Heres how to flair. I cant really dumb it down more then this. Maybe if half you kids actually have picked up a can of paint then you would know.
http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/tt300/2wayducttape/fornoobs.jpg
http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/tt300/2wayducttape/DSCF0735.jpg
exactley. It's just flicking you'r wrist.

[Fury]

Yeah, that's what I've been trying to do, but it doesn't really come out that way and looks shitty. Maybe I just need more practice at it, but thanks.

[weakfingers]

You can flair with any cap just go fast and make shure you go from the really obscur angle. get really tight in with the wall. Heres some videos to help you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UggfITrF0SA
also look at his wrist angle and how fast he moves the can
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4oeQa6qezE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2xIM8ZK91c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYlTnwdJaMs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzzkBM5iuTo

[408Bomber]

Flaring takes practice to get it right for you'r style.

[TheToy]

I got a pack of the translucent yellow 'Universal German Outline'. It says they work on Rusto and most domestic cans. Umm ok, it only worked on one can of Rusto I have. Out of 8 different colors. It worked on 'Sand'. It just dumped up into the cap on the others. It did not work on ColorPlace at all. It worked on Belton Molotow and Montana.

Any one else having this result on Rusto? I'm a little ticked cause they said it works on the Rusto. I love Rusto Fats and NY Thins on Rusto. Even the stock cap is nice for thin lines but I wanted something else. A little new variety for cans they have at local hardware stores. And I'm sick of Grey Dots clogging ever few minutes.

Bump this cause no one ever answers.
What's good on the 'Uni Germ Outline'?
Or is it just that no one cares cause there are only like 4 people that paint in the Toy Forum?...

[MoistGarbageCan]

probably the latter, lol.

[weakfingers]

ahahah ugh yellow german caps on rusto? ugm I dont really use that paint anymore but if your aksing what good skinny cap other then the decent stock cap I would have to say montana level 1's or level 3's. Beigh dots also work very well. It just takes time to find all you cap/can combies everything will work diffrently ya feel me?


EDIT:Rusto and colour place will work with some german outlines and other caps but randomly they will explode all over your hand or in my case all over your face when you go see where that hissing noise was coming from.

TLDR: Some caps will work on Rusto/Colour Place/Tremclad but they might explode like the toy said. Either press the cap down on that sweet spot to make it not leak or use stock caps.

[TheToy]

Rusto irks me lately. I've had NY Fats and GO2's work on some Rusto cans too. Lol.

Guess I'll have to stick with Rusto Fats and NY Thins on Rusto.

[Fury]

Or get some NY Thins and rusto fats!
Primarily what I use.

Edit:
Okay really? at the same time with the same info?
Fuck I need f00dz.

[weakfingers]

perfect combo^^^

[TheToy]

Lolz, Fury. We think alike.

I love RF and NYO's but I want something a little more whispy and controllable like a German Outline 2.

I feel like the NYO can be too thin and clean with a hard line and the RF can be too big with a hard line.

I guess I'm looking for a nice soft edged line with a medium spray width. I wish German Outline 2's worked on all the Rusto cans.

I'm trying to save my Molotow so I've been picking up more Rusto for practice seshs.

[Fury]

You can always get scraps for a dollar and put the RF's on them. Not as big or anything, but worth a try.

[Ovel&TheJetts]

So, I see on the back of all my cans that is has a temperature range.

It gets REAL fucking cold here at night...I'm wondering, do those numbers really mean anything? Obviously its the preferred range, but what happens if I paint when its way too cold?

Its the perfect time of year to go out...who the fuck is going to chase me in a snowstorm? Hahaha.

Sorry for another noob question...I just don't feel like packing up all my shit and walking a few miles in the snow to get to my spot and have my paint all frozen.

[Fury]

I don't know, but I'd say try it: just leave your paint outside for an hour or so (get a scrap can) and see if it works afterwards.

[TheToy]

How cold is real fucking cold? Like 30 degrees? Or -10 degrees?

The paint can definitely freeze. No doubt about that. It's just a matter of exposure time. You should also consider pressure problems when in extreme cold. Contraction/expansion or some shit.
Get Molotow if you live in the fuckin' Tundra.

[Ovel&TheJetts]

Might as well be the tundra lmao.

Yeah, we're talking like -10, or less.

Plus 8 feet of fucking snow. But it really opens up some crazy cool spots. Come spring and summer time it looks like I was carrying around a ladder hahaha.

Youtube showed that Sabotaz works real nice even in the cold...I might just get a bunch of that for the cold season.

[shem]

anyone down for a sketch battle?

[TheToy]

I'm not really into Sabotaz80 or Beat from Greece/Italy. It's hard to get around here unless you go through the internet.

Just get Molotow. It's all weather. Tried and true.

It's pretty much been -10 for the past few days round here. Molotow is the only thing workin' right now.

Paint quality and dry time is gonna' be a factor in the cold too. Most paints probably won't dry too good on a metal freight car that you could stick your tongue to. Lol.

[Ovel&TheJetts]

IDK what the odds are, but a kid I know who writes in the city near me just made a cold can test video on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWRD7yhhnLI

:cool: I didn't even say anything about it to him, and there it is hahah.

For anyone else concerned.

Thanks for the info guys :)

[proNYNJA]

does any1 know if u needa thin ink that u get out of a printer cartrage?

[Flawless Victory]

nah, it will print documents just fine as it is in the cartridge.

[faser]

lmao, if you find it coming out too thick and smudging just tune down your printing settings

[OOPS!]

Lmao why the hell would you thin printer ink?

[Vagrant]

to cut it

don't thin it. it's thin enough.
however, it's not waterproof or light-fast (fade-proof)

[massacreman]

so add some dot3 to it... LOL :P



dont

[proNYNJA]

to cut it

don't thin it. it's thin enough.
however, it's not waterproof or light-fast (fade-proof)


so if it isnt water proof of light-fast can i mix it in with my pen ink mixture to make that more opaqe

oh and how many pens would i need if i made a batch with 32oz. of 91% rubbing alcohol?

[massacreman]

A LOT i dunno how much 1oz is but i guess youll need ALOT

[Necyapale]

Since there is a collections thread for almost every thing else here, i thought it would only be fair to start a Toy / Vinyl Collections thread... so lets see what yall got please include pics

[prefer]

You can flair with any cap just go fast and make shure you go from the really obscur angle. get really tight in with the wall. Heres some videos to help you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UggfITrF0SA
also look at his wrist angle and how fast he moves the can
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4oeQa6qezE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2xIM8ZK91c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYlTnwdJaMs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzzkBM5iuTo

nah man your wrong, hold the can far away then swoop inwards its not that hard thats how you do it, it takes time to get used to though

[sodi]

Do I have to have letters in graffiti? Because it looks good but has no lettering in it. Please reply

[.nolove.]

nah dude.you could just draw characters or whatever.but if your just drawing shapes and shit thats kinda whack.

[prefer]

Do I have to have letters in graffiti? Because it looks good but has no lettering in it. Please reply
graffiti dont have no rules man do whatever you want throw bricks through windows lol

[sodi]

graffiti dont have no rules man do whatever you want throw bricks through windows lol

hahahaahaha I laughed out loud when I read that! Thanks for the advise, here are some of my black book pieces without lettering, I know I'm toy lol

http://www.flickr.com/photos/44068141@N05/4227341516/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/44068141@N05/4226572429/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/44068141@N05/4227343520/

[TheToy]

That shit is funny.

[prefer]

why isensoe so dope and im not like why do youguys think

[sodi]

why isensoe so dope and im not like why do youguys think
What? You make no sense...

[prefer]

i mean im nad im not as good as ensoe is im pissed becuase of that i wonder how he got so good

[sodi]

All about practice I guess... I used to only do 3 letter bubble throwies lol.

[Ovel&TheJetts]

So, I have a Mr. Black valve marker I got from OA. Its fucking terrible. Streaky as fuck...this marker just doesn't want to do it with this ink in there.

I dumped all the ink into one of my other empty writer sticks, and it works great in there.

BUT, I recently ordered some Glop paint. Its fucking awesome...silver looks like fucking liquid metal - no shit.

But anyway, I want to use the Glop in a marker (it won't work in a writers stick.) If I just clean out my Mr. Black marker with water, you think paint will run through it? I don't wanna waste my refill, because this shit is sick, and expensive.

[Xfish]

hey im xfish and i suck at graff and i go by jafo sometimes but anyways a few days ago i got some mtn paint and turns out high pressure is really hard to control and i need some paint for outline is there any caps or any way to release pressure from the can so it'll be way easier to control. and are there any other tips you have to a toy. like whats best to practice on or general places (not specifics) where i can tag because its hard to find a place in the suburbs.
thanks
xfish

[-Empty-Can-]

Well first of all you shouldn't be using montana if you just started graff. Get some some cheap cans at first. If you do want to release pressure then hold the can upside down and spray it. Practice on paper first and on plywood if you wanna paint. Don't tag the suburbs. Or unless you find some kind of bridge, tunnel or sound barrier wall go for it. Theres always freights too :D

[Xfish]

yeah dumbass mistake on buying the montanta would rusto work better? because my dad is goin to home depot tomaro. and yeah from what ive found not a whole lot of places to tag round here, but once me and a friend used some paint pens on a fire hydrant and at the end of the creek theres a tunnel that has some graffiti from years ago nothing special except theres this not bad one of a lobster. anyways we were supposed to go down there today but his mom was keepin a close eye on us. but yeah thanks for the help. also any respirators that you would suggest or just use a cheap white one?

[-Empty-Can-]

Rusto is good paint. If your just starting use the cheapest shit you can find. $1 cans like color place. Tunnels are fine. You don't really need a resp unless your piecing or gonna be around fumes for a while. Or painting in an enclosed are. Any hardware store resp should work. By cheap white one do you mean those shell looking ones that doctors wear? I'm not expert but I don't think those do much.

[mawks]

obvious troll is obvious?

[Xfish]

ok that should work and rusto dosent have that 360 dial on it does it? because i got some krylon that the painter left and it has that plus it drips like crazy