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n8galicia
01-02-2010, 04:51 PM
xfish dude, no beef but judging from your sketches it doesn't look like you're ready for walls yet. get your simples down and be able to bust a decent tag at least first

Xfish
01-02-2010, 09:25 PM
na its fine guys i am a major toy and i suck but all ive done is just play around on plywood in the backyard havent tagged any where yet

prefer
01-02-2010, 10:56 PM
stik to plywood till your kinda good, or just write on whatever to piss off the ommunity wehatevr haha

Xfish
01-03-2010, 09:57 PM
yeah plywood and this tunnel in my frinds creek no one ever goes down there and its jst for water to pass thru. next time i go over there well practice there he does some pretty sick bubble letters

TrikAssHoe!
01-05-2010, 12:09 AM
na its fine guys i am a major toy and i suck but all ive done is just play around on plywood in the backyard havent tagged any where yet

just find a chill spot and practice.

175~PROPHET
01-05-2010, 05:37 AM
i got a question but i know for sure im gonna get shit hung on me for askin.
i finally decided on a name to tag and i been doing a few like nothing much cos im still shit, but then i found out theres a distinguished writer using the same name.
shud i change? or u reckon its on the other side of the world so it dont matter as much?

not looking for beef :P

Fury
01-05-2010, 07:08 PM
If he's not anywhere in your area or even in the same country, I don't see why it matters too much.

stryc9soup
01-10-2010, 02:52 PM
yea I'm havin the same fucking problem. I want my tag to fit me ya know and everything that I think of that I think is original I do the research to make sure it aint taken and it either is or if it isn't then I decide I don't like it for one reason or another...

weakfingers
01-10-2010, 08:50 PM
Your probably gonna quit or change your name in the first couple years so learn the basics and youll have tons of time to think of a name, when you got a name youll know it, the name becomes you and everything about you and you cant leave the thing.


I wanna know about belton, Any cats in here try it out. It seems like sick paint, I mean easy to control and comes out smooth, good colours etc etc etc. Just wondering if it was comparable to any graffiti pant.

BlacktodaFuture
01-10-2010, 09:14 PM
i havent tried belton but it is mainly for really complex peices, nice and slow. im thinking it's like montana 94

Fury
01-10-2010, 10:18 PM
I think Anion uses Belton, but I could be wrong. Ask him.

And I agree with Weak. When you find the name, you find it. You know you've found it. And yeah, expect tons of name changes just to find it. Don't worry too much about it though, just work with a name you like and get the basics of letters down and you'll find it eventually.

RADAWG
01-10-2010, 10:23 PM
Ive used belton, its more of a low pressure paint. If your gonna do some straights or a piece it will work best for that. its high pressure enough to bomb though
idk i prefer rusto over all this shit its too expensive and rusto is free..i mean if you got the dough for all that nice paint then go for it but if its hard to afford all that shit i dont really think its worth paying for when rusto is perfectly fine

TrikAssHoe!
01-11-2010, 02:45 PM
i got a question but i know for sure im gonna get shit hung on me for askin.
i finally decided on a name to tag and i been doing a few like nothing much cos im still shit, but then i found out theres a distinguished writer using the same name.
shud i change? or u reckon its on the other side of the world so it dont matter as much?

not looking for beef :P

if he's not that great or unheard of who cares.

EST2007
01-15-2010, 11:19 AM
has anyone seen a piece where fine art techniques were mixed with graff? specifically, my next piece im planning to do as pointillism

Zookyook
01-15-2010, 01:04 PM
reyes awr always does that lol he touches up with paintbrushes and markers if thats what u mean... i consider it not graff

Darkeist
01-15-2010, 01:10 PM
Ive heard stories of people, painting in the rain, they go and paint in the rain anyway. but some say they dont cuz the paint drips and looks ugly.

can you paint a wet wall with out it looking shitty? or is it just better to wait til tomorrow when its dry/

Zookyook
01-15-2010, 01:21 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2548/4174851615_1fbe6741b4.jpg

i did this when it was pouring ass rain, i could tell the wall was soaked, it came out fine though, i think like if u painted a brick wall that was covered in paint AND wet itd drip a lot though, this wall was bare

Fury
01-15-2010, 02:01 PM
has anyone seen a piece where fine art techniques were mixed with graff? specifically, my next piece im planning to do as pointillism

I know there's one guy in SF who does but I'm lost on his name right now. I think it has an X in it? I'm sorry, I'm just like blanking out

Loki X Sho
01-15-2010, 02:09 PM
I love when people mix it up and do original ass shit. A know a bunch of guys who use different approaches toward graff. Intense soulful stuff.

TrikAssHoe!
01-15-2010, 10:28 PM
has anyone seen a piece where fine art techniques were mixed with graff? specifically, my next piece im planning to do as pointillism

fuckin retna.

Almega
01-15-2010, 10:58 PM
Okay so I know to get better you gotta practice practice practice, but what are you supposed to practice?

-Alm

Chippey
01-15-2010, 11:03 PM
Practise your tag, and letter structure using bars.

Almega
01-15-2010, 11:13 PM
But can I like copy someone else piece to like get the feel for how letters go together?

Slittt6
01-15-2010, 11:15 PM
as big as tags are in the graffiti world, i say fuck tags. half the "good" taggers cant bomb for shit. which means their pieces look like a drunk 3rd grader did them.

Practice on your pieces using bars, 3d and its vanishing points, shadows are a must, also incorporate YOUR style.

Remember,
The best graffiti artists are GREAT all around artists.
The best Taggers are GREAT all around nobody's!

walkingcarpet
01-15-2010, 11:23 PM
Can I write "jek" without getting any beef? I searched google images for "jek graffiti" and a couple pieces and throw ups showed up. Or is "jek" not that well known and should I be fine?

Chippey
01-15-2010, 11:26 PM
Slitt on some levels I agree many taggers arnt serious about graffiti, they tag for the hell of it, but many great pieces come out of people following their tag styles.

Almega - Do what you feel you need to do to improve, just say you took it off someone elses style if you plan on posting it. And remember start developing your own style, dont be a copycat forever.

Slittt6
01-15-2010, 11:27 PM
dunno why you'd write jek but go for it lol

walkingcarpet
01-15-2010, 11:29 PM
Alright sounds good. Haha, those are my best letters in my handstyle. Probably will change over time if I develop my other letters, but for now, I'll write jek.

Zookyook
01-16-2010, 12:19 PM
msk are my best letters... anyone write that? lol

and almega i dont think its a good idea to like trace or copy a piece, it wont really help u until u fully understand bars and 3d and color balance... once u get those ull be able to develop ur own pieces, copying would be like a kid in algebra writing down equations from advanced calculus, ull know what the numbers are but not what they mean or where they come from u feel me?

Flawless Victory
01-16-2010, 03:23 PM
Actually no, nobody writes MSK.

OOPS!
01-16-2010, 03:34 PM
Lmfao. Just some toys over on the westcoast. But you're much better.

Flawless Victory
01-16-2010, 03:43 PM
no but for real,no one writes MSK.

NoCanControl
01-16-2010, 03:56 PM
I am getting into piecing and was wondering does anyone have any experience with transparent paint? and what is it used, and how? and post pics of piece that used transparent paint, if possible.

Zookyook
01-16-2010, 04:29 PM
we know that no single person writes it as a name fv, its just a well known 3 letter name... multiple people in a crew write it

prefer
01-16-2010, 06:12 PM
anyone know how the fuck sever busts out a clean peice in like 10 minutes, shits mind boggling

MoistGarbageCan
01-16-2010, 09:57 PM
quick question i cant decide my name and was wondering if x49 sounds toyish

sounds like a stupid name.
lol i can already tell you're SUPER TRASH, too.

prefer
01-17-2010, 12:25 AM
you cant tell someones trash by reading a line on the computer screen dumbfuck, secondly howabout giving him some actually helpful advice like change your name or something

ChadWarden
01-17-2010, 10:29 AM
you cant tell someones trash by reading a line on the computer screen dumbfuck, secondly howabout giving him some actually helpful advice like change your name or something

what a super trash thing to say.

Ovel&TheJetts
01-17-2010, 10:58 AM
So, I've done a LOT of shit on the walls in my room. Unfortunately, I was toy as fuck at the time (still am, I know) but now comes the time to paint over it...

I have lots of markers that are "buff proof" lol. Now I WANT them to be buffed...any tips on covering this shit up? Or am I really gonna have to do like 5 layers. Fuck.

woonybomber
01-17-2010, 11:02 AM
get some kilts paint that shit will buff it

prefer
01-17-2010, 01:18 PM
Lmfao. Just some toys over on the westcoast. But you're much better.
damn classic example of jealousy, you hate westcoast writers becuase they burn you lol, as for zook, dont write msk homey, its bad for your health ;)

Ovel&TheJetts
01-17-2010, 02:06 PM
get some kilts paint that shit will buff it

Kilts eh? I think Walmart sells that.

I want a purple that Dutch Boy makes though...can they just mix that into Kilts paint?

prefer
01-17-2010, 02:37 PM
just get kills man, or another brnd butnot painterstouchit aint reallythick

woonybomber
01-17-2010, 02:40 PM
yeah paint the wall with kills the when its dry do the purple

PSYS
01-17-2010, 03:44 PM
it's actually "KILZ"... they probably have it @ Wal-Mart.
God knows they've got everything else... otherwise, I'd hit up a Home Depot, Lowe's, Menard's, etc, etc.

woonybomber
01-17-2010, 04:45 PM
yeah wal-mart got it

KAZonee
01-17-2010, 05:28 PM
almost everyone here says they rack paint ndd shit but is it that easy i live in new york Brooklyn to be exact ndd everywhere i go all the shit is locked up anyone in NY who racks help me out or sumthin ndd im under 18

ive posted this on toy chat but i figured i put it up on here too

woonybomber
01-17-2010, 06:19 PM
brooklyn huh ??? idk but if it waznt locked id say juss snatch and run nicka lol no jk you gotta play it kewl and do not look suspicous juss stay calm but i dont know wat to do with the locked up shit

KAZonee
01-17-2010, 06:32 PM
yea inoe in sum white neighboor hoods in brooklyn they dont lock up there stuff so ima check it out but im hispanic they always look at me supicious ndd cuz im from he hood

Inlyn08
01-17-2010, 06:49 PM
Smash and grab..
Smash and grab..

KAZonee
01-17-2010, 06:58 PM
but any one here frum brooklyn

ndd ima do smash ndd grab lmao

xGENOCIDEx
01-17-2010, 07:05 PM
Whats better for name.. Genocide or Streak.. I been using gencoide for a year i got the hang of it so i can spray and write it faster.. but Streak i can make look more stylish and shit.

woonybomber
01-17-2010, 07:37 PM
yeah ***** i feel you with the race thing i walking in a store and they folow me every were
i thinks its ckus i got a fro

KAZonee
01-17-2010, 08:41 PM
u dont see people with fros these days lol

Stuck
01-17-2010, 08:51 PM
Kaz all u gota do is learn some basic lock pickkin skills to pik the locks, and dont dress like a fuckin hood ***** for gods sakes...get some preppy clothes or some shit that makes u look like a goody goody....idiots

KAZonee
01-17-2010, 09:32 PM
wen u say idiots u remind me of napoleon dynamite

ima try that ima get one of my boys to cum wid me ndd we guna epmty out the place

weakfingers
01-17-2010, 09:35 PM
the dident sound gay at all....

KAZonee
01-17-2010, 09:44 PM
thats wat she said

Zookyook
01-17-2010, 10:52 PM
...rob people that write graff

Stuck
01-17-2010, 11:21 PM
best fuckin way aha

Fury
01-18-2010, 04:24 AM
For the SEKT cap adapter, can you put both male and female caps on it? Or at least females? Because all the cans I can find for a buck are for males and I wanna try the fattest caps.

prefer
01-18-2010, 04:50 PM
...rob people that write graff

hahahah

woonybomber
01-18-2010, 04:54 PM
i lvoe grafiti why is it full off beef???? lmfao i love beef i juss hate it how every one is like you woony you suck or your teribel lik fuck it

PSYS
01-18-2010, 05:50 PM
Kaz all u gota do is learn some basic lock pickkin skills to pik the locks, and dont dress like a fuckin hood ***** for gods sakes...get some preppy clothes or some shit that makes u look like a goody goody....idiots

^^^ co-sign

don't go into the joint stompin' in your Timbos, Mecca jeans and Art Primo tee. you gotta look fresh ta death like you just fuckin' up 'n walked outta Macy's.

woonybomber
01-18-2010, 05:52 PM
hahha

ChadWarden
01-18-2010, 05:54 PM
i juss hate it how every one is like you woony you suck or your teribel lik fuck it

problem: people hate on your shitty graff.



solution: dont post flicks of your shity graff.

KAZonee
01-18-2010, 06:00 PM
i gotta a really toy question

i got oil based paint in my house can i just thin
it down with rubbin alcohol i got no paint thinner

prefer
01-18-2010, 06:42 PM
try it outim not really sure

woonybomber
01-18-2010, 06:46 PM
problem: people hate on your shitty graff.



solution: dont post flicks of your shity graff.

i hate you

prefer
01-18-2010, 06:53 PM
i lvoe grafiti why is it full off beef???? lmfao i love beef i juss hate it how every one is like you woony you suck or your teribel lik fuck it

ima have to go with wooney on this one

woonybomber
01-18-2010, 06:58 PM
finally some one who isnt hatten on meh lmfao

CrustOner
01-18-2010, 08:43 PM
hahaha you still aren't good dudee. Just practice, and you'll get better.

fec
01-19-2010, 10:34 AM
lately i have been seeing a shitload of tags on sidewalks and other surfaces that would usually be impossible to write on and i would like to know what people used to do so. the material is hard as fuck, almost like caulk, and the lines are usually pretty thin seems pretty unbuffable too. oftentimes it kind of looks like this stuff was dripped from above, rather than written directly on the surface. ill try to get some flix of this shit since its hard to explain. if anyone can help me out i would really appreciate it

PSYS
01-19-2010, 12:12 PM
lately i have been seeing a shitload of tags on sidewalks and other surfaces that would usually be impossible to write on and i would like to know what people used to do so. the material is hard as fuck, almost like caulk, and the lines are usually pretty thin seems pretty unbuffable too. oftentimes it kind of looks like this stuff was dripped from above, rather than written directly on the surface. ill try to get some flix of this shit since its hard to explain. if anyone can help me out i would really appreciate it

post up some flicks.

does it look like the writing is "raised" at all...?

fec
01-19-2010, 01:16 PM
yeah it is. it looks like controlled paint splatter thats raised up and hard as a fuckin rock

skull-e
01-19-2010, 09:56 PM
you guys are fags

put some thinned out bucket paint in a squeeze bottle an hit the streets

prefer
01-20-2010, 10:21 AM
would you guys say i should stick to straights first or stick to hands or stick to throws if im having problems with can control, i think straights right? correct me if im wrong

medacog1
01-20-2010, 02:00 PM
ok well there is this spot were the writers in my neigborhood go to piece.. and when i went down there i saw a new MEAN MHN(most hated ni99a) piece..he is in a crew in pitt
but i think he might of moved to my town because next to the piece it said XXXXXville status? i asked another write how i would meet him and he said leave him a note on the wall but idk how that would work? any ideas?

-Empty-Can-
01-20-2010, 02:06 PM
he said leave him a note on the wall but idk how that would work? any ideas?
Sticky Note!

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/3533724/2/istockphoto_3533724-yellow-sticky-note.jpg

but really... By leaving a note I think he means paint something then put some message next to it saying you wanna meet him.

medacog1
01-20-2010, 02:30 PM
but really... By leaving a note I think he means paint something then put some message next to it saying you wanna meet him.[/QUOTE]

yea..but likei cannot give any time or place you know?
and i dont want to go down to the piece spot everyday, looking for him...man i dont even know if i want to meet most other writers..

EST2007
01-20-2010, 02:44 PM
you dont wanna meet any other writers, we're all assholes

ChadWarden
01-20-2010, 02:48 PM
ive never meet another writer where im like " oh whow, im really glad i came into contact with a fellow vandal! what nice people!"

they all suck.

Fury
01-20-2010, 02:49 PM
The only writers I ever met were people I already knew, just never knew they wrote.

skull-e
01-20-2010, 08:48 PM
people from my part of the woods are pretty vhillen gais

prefer
01-21-2010, 05:40 PM
you dont wanna meet any other writers, we're all assholes

especially you:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

vistey
01-22-2010, 07:29 AM
ok got a couple of super toy questions

Whats the difference between high and low pressure cans? I understand that theres less pressure in low, but how does this affect the painting and all?

Also, whats the difference between caps?
-reccomend caps for tags?

thanks

skull-e
01-22-2010, 10:31 AM
high pressure is like rusto or something, good for bombing

and low pressure would be something like montana gold wich is good for piecing considering the paint comes out slower giving you more time for details

and a good cap for tagging would be the new caps on the elmers glkue cans at homedepot

those things and golden

they look kinda like germans

prefer
01-22-2010, 10:36 AM
ok got a couple of super toy questions

Whats the difference between high and low pressure cans? I understand that theres less pressure in low, but how does this affect the painting and all?

Also, whats the difference between caps?
-reccomend caps for tags?

thanks



haha, dude you really dont know that shit wow man nonone can tell you that you need to figure out for yourself, im not even gonna tell you that you bullshitter

prefer
01-22-2010, 12:10 PM
how do you guys do your art like when your working on graff stuff do you think about your life too or just on graff until uyou finish

stryc9soup
01-25-2010, 03:43 AM
I believe this last question needs some clarification. Speaking for myself (cuz I'm sure it's not the same for us all) I think it's the subconscious thoughts about my life that ultimately causes me to get that urge to write on walls. I mean sure there's the adrenaline and risk that's a perk and then the possibility of maybe doin somethin great that might effect someone elses ideals about their own life. maybe gettin up and being an eye opener for someone in some inexplicable, abstract way but mainly when I write I think bout my life and about how what I'm doin is calming me down. It's an outlet so I don't go crazy. You focus directly on the art itself and forget everything else that's wrong but it's the wrong that drives you to do the art

prefer
01-25-2010, 10:51 AM
word thatswhat i do too, to me its like away to express myself and a way to escape the urrent moment all at once

inpho_211
01-25-2010, 10:58 AM
wtf r u guys talkin about?? lol..

prefer
01-27-2010, 11:23 AM
were talking about your mom

inpho_211
01-27-2010, 11:25 AM
how she fuked up ur mom an i raped ur lil sis in tha back of ur shitty trailer??
y do u guys always have to bring that up??
let tha past be tha past..

prefer
01-27-2010, 11:27 AM
ahahah

woonybomber
01-27-2010, 11:54 AM
its all about the bars man its not graffiti without bars

prefer
01-27-2010, 12:08 PM
word cant forget the bars homie graffiti is all about bars

woonybomber
01-27-2010, 12:12 PM
but they kant be stright bars they gotta be gay bars lmfao the ones in vagrants imaganry city

SEEK NRA
01-27-2010, 12:54 PM
haha, dude you really dont know that shit wow man nonone can tell you that you need to figure out for yourself, im not even gonna tell you that you bullshitter

Yeah your right! Dont help him out at all..
im sure no one taught you how to be a shitty ass ignorant troll !
thats not something you learn its something your born with.


FUCKING IDIOT!

prefer
01-27-2010, 12:55 PM
^that guy was a bullshitter though lol

woonybomber
01-27-2010, 03:07 PM
seek is my step dad

mommy said to come home now

Zookyook
01-27-2010, 03:25 PM
its all about the bars man its not graffiti without bars
sounds like ur joking but this raised a good question... does augor use bars? most of his elaborate pieces dont have defined bars, and in my opinion hes done some of the best shit ive seen... cuz technically all of his pieces HAVE bars but theyre so chopped up and streched out u can barely tell...
http://saberone.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/augor_2.jpg
and throwups never have bars and i consider them to be more 'graffiti' than piecing, piecing is more toward fine art IMO

prefer
01-27-2010, 03:28 PM
exactly what i was sayin abiout that it doesnt look like augor uses bars in some of his peiceds and remeber when i posted some of my work everyone was saying my peice sucked just cuase it didnt have defined nbars glad someone listened to me alot of augors peuices dont have bars defined and agours shit is awesome though, whoever sdaid graff is all abot bars in the new graffiti thread i think is trippin, hey wooney if seek really is your stepdad tell him im sorry k thanks

woonybomber
01-27-2010, 03:32 PM
he isnot my step dad i hate that dude

Zookyook
01-27-2010, 03:34 PM
well bars ARE where u need to start with graff... but if everything u ever do is based on bars all ur gonna be doing is typical ass generic "graffiti" and thats not what its about in my mind, its about creating new shit and making it ur own... i was one of the ones to tell u to use bars when u posted ur first pieces but thats because thats where u need to start before u can bust out some augor shit with highly undefined bars, otherwise itll just look like a big pile of slop... to be honest i think before u even mess with bars u should learn some basic throwups and tags because starting there gives u more style than keyboard letters when u DO start with bars... but some kids just try to bust out crazy pieces when they arent ready, these people need bar therapy bad lol

prefer
01-27-2010, 03:37 PM
no offense man but i started out with bars a long ass time ago man forreal not to say im ready but im definatly ready to try some new shit ya dig

Zookyook
01-27-2010, 03:52 PM
well i havent seen anything uve done with bars in it so i cant tell u if ur ready or not... post some shit up man

prefer
01-27-2010, 05:48 PM
hey g uys can i ask an honest question how do augs and revok get so much respect and like they got bars and stuff

Zookyook
01-27-2010, 05:51 PM
what do u mean? they got respect now cuz they got into msk... solo theyd only be as good as any other top-teir writer thats way better than me hah

prefer
01-27-2010, 05:53 PM
im curious why noone tells them to get bars and why people tell me i have way too many extensions

Alts13
01-27-2010, 06:00 PM
They get respect because they have been in the game a long time and have put in the work.

I have to say that before getting throws down you should be learning solid simple keyboard letters you get more respect from writers for a solid simple than a poorly executed piece.

As for your question about extensions, without seeing your work, maybe your extensions don't flow and compliment the shapes of the letters, extensions need to look natural and flow with the piece and mold it together as an overall piece.

Zookyook
01-27-2010, 06:01 PM
well like me n alts said, if ur already that experienced with bars u can take the bars in the letter and cut them up, know where to make extensions, strech them out... it takes experience though man... i bet those guys have emptied thousands of cans... ive emptied probably close to a thousand and im nowhere near that level... it takes years man ur not gonna get good over a 3 month or even a 3 year period unless u really spend that time sketching and goin out to chill spots and practicing

Alts13
01-27-2010, 06:06 PM
A lot of these writers who are big nowadays have been writing since the early 90s, they lterally have thousands of pieces under their belts and can compose their pieces without bars because their understanding of their own style and letters means they can just execute the letters plain on the wall freestyle. All of Revoks pieces are freestyles at the wall, not from sketches, as are most top writers.

Revoks pieces are generally very big and also he paints them quick as hell. For instance CanTwo always freestyles his pieces, you get to a stage where you can just execute that shit and you have put in so much work that you can basically do what you like. Look at writers like Jurne they are constantly pushing things, you have the transcend crew ouija/poesia etc who are completely abstracting things, Natrl as well, then you have crews like WST who write and pieces are solid foundation of letters and bar work.

There is so much variation it is hard to keep track sometimes

prefer
01-27-2010, 06:07 PM
oh,i was wondering how they got so good and stuff

sinkilla1
01-27-2010, 06:11 PM
aight ima fill you in prefer ive been writing for a year and a half if i used bars when i started i would be dope as shit but no one eer shoved bars down my throat but now im starting yous bars no thtat much but im starting progress alot faster then when i started

Alts13
01-27-2010, 06:11 PM
Check out revoks stuff form the early 90s you will see solid letter foundations, this is why when you seen pieces like the simple mean street killers that he and rime done the simple letters have so much style

Alts13
01-27-2010, 06:13 PM
like sinkilla said, I have multiple blackbooks just filled with simples, and I mean hundreds and hundreds of them my photobucket account has over 1500 sketches the vast majority of them were me learning the structure of my letters.

Bars are the best way to begin composing and learnign your letter structure, it is all about that simple foundation and building on it

sinkilla1
01-27-2010, 06:20 PM
im not gonna lie i dont use them to an extant i just make one starting bar and add my shit on to that so that my letters are all even ive just learned to not use bars pretty much at all

prefer
01-27-2010, 06:33 PM
so that means mainly they just put in tons of work

Zookyook
01-27-2010, 08:13 PM
yea... TONS of work... filling blackbooks hitting risky spots using bars and being creative... probably some crime n drugs in there but its all part of the sport hah...

SEEK NRA
01-27-2010, 08:34 PM
he isnot my step dad i hate that dude


respet your elders little girl

woonybomber
01-27-2010, 08:36 PM
sorry man i most deff got a dick you fucking fagit
i am not a girl juss ask your mom


but like shut the fuck up man

im done with beefin on this site it is fun but pointless

Noz
01-27-2010, 08:42 PM
idk bout any 1 else, but "like shut the fuck up" soundz a lil feminine 2 me...
nd i think he wuz talkin bout b4 da sex change honey

woonybomber
01-27-2010, 09:19 PM
idk bout any 1 else, but "like shut the fuck up" soundz a lil feminine 2 me...
nd i think he wuz talkin bout b4 da sex change honey

fuck you lick my ballslike i said im done with the fucking beef so can every one juss stfu for real im not a fucking girl and im not no lil ass kid nethire so fuck all of you i will step on you and not even know it

Fury
01-28-2010, 01:17 AM
What's the best site for making super pro slaps? Like black on white stickers, printed with names and shit?

prefer
01-28-2010, 11:35 AM
make em

Fury
01-28-2010, 05:24 PM
Stick glue doesn't do shit.

prefer
01-29-2010, 01:20 PM
What's the best site for making super pro slaps? Like black on white stickers, printed with names and shit?

not sure man, your best bet would be to hit up staples they got all kinds of sticker stuff there, you can get almost any size blank sticker, seriously yo check it out on the real

-tonnes-
01-30-2010, 09:29 AM
everytime i go to do a second outline around a throwup, i get maaad drips, nd last time this happened i was doin the outline with ironlak, is there a technique to doin the second outline so it doesnt drip as bad?

Vagrant
01-30-2010, 09:49 AM
What cap are u using?

Zookyook
01-30-2010, 11:15 AM
u can always cut back over ur last outline with whatever color u outline ur letters in... and us a german 3 or ny fatcap on germans for controllable lines

Vagrant
01-30-2010, 11:21 AM
too much paint + too much pressure = drips
Ironlak has a variable pressure valve,so be careful while u spray so you don't get too much pressure. Choose the right cap to limit the thickness and diameter of paint applied and don't go too slow. Practice nice fluid and quick movements, making sure to follow through to avoid making the ends of your lines too thick.

-tonnes-
01-30-2010, 01:35 PM
thanks everyone for the input and to clarify im using ny fats, my next thinnest cap is grey dot, nd u gotta move really really slow to get a solid line with ironlak, my next question is 3/d, nd where to put it, i think im over doing it around the top, ill give a pic as an example:
8055
(sidenote: i bit those dots, just wanted to see what they look like lol, theyre from someone on this website, credits to them)

inpho_211
02-01-2010, 03:49 PM
yea..an don't forget to paint over that when ur done..cus if ur gonna be bombing an that shit is in ur living room..thats pretty much all tha proof they need..

-tonnes-
02-01-2010, 04:53 PM
man i bomb everybodies living rooms, that shit is mad ups!

CrustOner
02-01-2010, 06:20 PM
Hahahahhaha

woonybomber
02-02-2010, 01:42 PM
man i bomb everybodies living rooms, that shit is mad ups!

your jokeing right haha
mad ups for when the cops
come and take who ever lives in that crib out and blam then
that is mad ups
so much ups it is unbelieveable

iAaz
02-03-2010, 12:04 PM
Hey dudes, I'm just starting out at all this, been really caning the simples. But the problem is I cannot for love nor money make a decent tag. The simples I'm doing looks fucking shit and im stressin hard.

It's getting to the point I'm throwin' my toys out of the pram :P
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tyme3911/4327669465/

woonybomber
02-03-2010, 01:30 PM
?? i dont see enything and toys you play with toys how old are you ???

iAaz
02-03-2010, 02:21 PM
sorry dude, pic wouldnt upload properly, hopefully you can see it now.

And no i don't play with toys......being a graffiti artist I would have thought you were familiar with ''expression'' only messin

woonybomber
02-03-2010, 02:30 PM
ohh i thought you ment you play with toys i waz like wtf
lol
T is fine
y is ok
M needs a lot of work
E would be better if you made it not up the ms ass lol
and get rid of the under line for now
and only do the quotes if your gonne make them the same with and length

iAaz
02-04-2010, 05:11 AM
Cheers for the help dude, at least i know 'T' and 'Y' are alright.

I've seperated the 'M' and 'E' and I'm happy with the 'E' but it's that fucking 'M' I can't seem to do anything with, and this is my problem with Tags, I can't visualize or manipulate the letters, because I'm not happy with anything I do.

either way I've uploaded what revised version. Any help or tips would be awesome

Cheers

Alts13
02-04-2010, 07:44 AM
keep it simple and quick, practise practise practise, get yourself a couple of notepads and just write, don't bother with just your tag write everything and anything because you can learn from other letters, I used to make the mistake of just practising my name when it is better to just write any old shit.

Vagrant
02-04-2010, 07:49 AM
get a phone book or two and fill them.
every page.

iAaz
02-04-2010, 08:33 AM
cheers dudes,

Ill get on it now and post back with the results

iAaz
02-04-2010, 08:36 AM
just thought tho, how do you suggest I go about it. Like you just write it and then manipulate it a little, stretch it out and all that?

Alts13
02-04-2010, 09:55 AM
no just focus on getting it done smoothly, I admit I generally have always had good handwriting anyway, if you have horrible handwriting naturally then work at your normal writing. Here was me just fucking around, see it is just simple handstyles, nothign fancy and it doesn't need to be
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj259/decyferone/DSC02489.jpg

SEEK NRA
02-04-2010, 01:00 PM
YO whos in charge of the WORE battle? and when is it due??

provinT13
02-04-2010, 01:48 PM
All you toys that are practicing your tags, GET A WHITE BOARD!!

SEEK NRA
02-04-2010, 02:42 PM
nevermind just looked up on the page

Fury
02-04-2010, 03:32 PM
All you toys that are practicing your tags, GET A WHITE BOARD!!

Agreed 100%. Definitely a good $5 investment that will literally save you hundreds of shitty pages.

Alts13
02-04-2010, 04:34 PM
I use my son's whiteboard or his lightboard ( the lightboard is dope, the pen has an attachment and you can get flares done.

woonybomber
02-04-2010, 05:03 PM
haha were did you get it for him i want one lol

(SoS)Viruz
02-04-2010, 05:18 PM
Hey dudes, I'm just starting out at all this, been really caning the simples. But the problem is I cannot for love nor money make a decent tag. The simples I'm doing looks fucking shit and im stressin hard.

It's getting to the point I'm throwin' my toys out of the pram :P
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tyme3911/4327669465/

Yo man I feel you. Just PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE. Even if you think your doing shit cause lets face it....Everyone at one point was shitty unless you were born graff king or whatever. Just stick with it man. Cause once you get throught this you'll start noticiing your progession.

Progression is something that your going to have to realize take alot of time man.....A LOT OF time and patients and practice. Fill free to post some pics and get some crits in here. Sometimes hearing or in this case reading other ppls opinions can help you out a little.

Alright man take it easy and stick with it man.
PEACE
-Viruz

SEEK NRA
02-04-2010, 08:34 PM
^ uh yeah.what he said

provinT13
02-04-2010, 09:10 PM
i agree, thats what i do... but sometimes its nice to sit down and just fill up some pages with tags... alts thats a nice, consistent handstyle...

Yea if they're good handstyles, i'd love to have tons of filled up pages, but not of doo doo, who wants to look back at 5 pages of doo doo and say "shit I spent hours filing this up and it looked like crap"

Xfish
02-04-2010, 10:11 PM
hey i might be going with a diffrent name maybe something like kare or unity maybe vex i like vex the most any suggestions? comments?

Alts13
02-05-2010, 11:03 AM
haha were did you get it for him i want one lol

we just got it from a toy store, Argos in the UK, this is what it looks like, not the exact one but similar

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/3842375/Trail/searchtext%3EGLOW+STATION.htm

markingz.
02-05-2010, 02:07 PM
do you guys think the graff artist fuct is a toy or not i think hes good

woonybomber
02-05-2010, 02:10 PM
yeo i want one of those things =D

SEEK NRA
02-05-2010, 02:15 PM
hey i might be going with a diffrent name maybe something like kare or unity maybe vex i like vex the most any suggestions? comments?

vex sounds dope, i dont know if theres one already, how bout unit.?

Fury
02-05-2010, 02:53 PM
X's are bitches in my opinion. I personally just find a word I like, and not one kinda made up (like Rosek is just a bunch of letters for example).

Xfish
02-05-2010, 04:14 PM
i might go with unit i really like that and yeah x's suck or i was thinking veks but nothing for sure yet

woonybomber
02-05-2010, 05:36 PM
meh i will call him a toy hes a toy lol jk who is that i dont even know who yiour talking about

markingz.
02-05-2010, 05:50 PM
harhar... funny... who the hell in the world would call him a toy?
a freind of mine whos just starting was like he sucks, im like wtf are you talkin about lol

markingz.
02-05-2010, 05:51 PM
meh i will call him a toy hes a toy lol jk who is that i dont even know who yiour talking about
fuct nct is from la hes a sick writer whos got mad bars in his sgit he paints with augor alot though

prefer
02-05-2010, 05:54 PM
yeah fuct is dope i think but what does yall think

Xfish
02-05-2010, 06:04 PM
im trying to make my own ink no rubbing alchohol round the house any good substitute? thanks

CrustOner
02-05-2010, 07:31 PM
No. First, you need to get your handstyle more than just random lines. THEN you can start making ink to get up.

LeaksOne
02-05-2010, 07:59 PM
xfish why dont you just write vecks

flask1995
02-05-2010, 09:10 PM
How would you rack paint?

I can rack marker's, paint markers etc with the cup trick but otherwise how would i rack paint? I would take the risk by tucking my shirt into my pants with a belt securing it and inserting it from there. but a little more less riskier way to rack paint?

LeaksOne
02-05-2010, 09:17 PM
snatch and run....go to tools and tips. plenty help there

flask1995
02-05-2010, 09:32 PM
haah :p, I would do that at my local hardware store but they effin put scanbar's on the paint D;. thanks though.

Xfish
02-05-2010, 11:33 PM
yeah i think im gona write veks i like that one alot better

(SoS)Viruz
02-06-2010, 01:21 AM
yeah i think im gona write veks i like that one alot better

That sounds like a legit name. But did you try sketching it out first......usually what I do is do a simple handy of the name I want and if it doesn't flow to my liking 8 time out of 10 it wont flow right on paper.....So what out for that. Just my 2 cents Peace
-Viruz

sodi
02-06-2010, 02:57 AM
veks has really good letters :o

provinT13
02-06-2010, 03:09 AM
I don't really think the V will flow good, e's k's and s's would go good, idk maybe you can make a v flow, just not my letter

massacreman
02-06-2010, 05:03 AM
v is one of the shittyest letters to start with

Xfish
02-06-2010, 11:13 AM
eks flows pretty good but v sucks i think im gona go with it prbly its alot better than x, x's are fuckin bitches

Fury
02-06-2010, 05:02 PM
I used to write a word that started with V, and it was hard as fuck to make it look good in a piece. Think of this: if you make the bottom too round or out, it's a U; if you make it too close together, it looks like a squished U; if you round out the sides, it's a heart. It is damn hard to make a V flow really nice.

I also hate S's, but that's just me.

Xfish
02-06-2010, 08:49 PM
yea not the easyist in the world but i wanna try to make it work that name is dope

Fury
02-06-2010, 08:50 PM
You could always do SEKS. I think that'd be funny haha

-Empty-Can-
02-06-2010, 09:32 PM
The endless possibilities.....

(SoS)Viruz
02-06-2010, 11:50 PM
v is one of the shittyest letters to start with

Its actualy the simplest letter....2bars...Thats it.....You pretty much can make your piece flow any way if you do it right....I like to use V in the center of a word....Makes for better styles IMO

Xfish
02-06-2010, 11:53 PM
You could always do SEKS. I think that'd be funny haha

hahahhahaaha

jizmobeel
02-07-2010, 08:31 PM
i think xfish is the worst name ever

TheToy
02-07-2010, 08:43 PM
Yeah. 'jizmobeel' is pretty fuckin' awesome, too. ^^^

Lol.

jizmobeel
02-07-2010, 08:46 PM
do you think i write jizmobeel?

TheToy
02-07-2010, 08:51 PM
Of course not.

Xfish
02-07-2010, 09:14 PM
i think xfish is the worst name ever

i dont write xfish and what the fuck kinda name is jizmobeel? dont come in here and be a dick it wont get you any help

TheToy
02-07-2010, 09:34 PM
He's just trolling. Relax.

Xfish
02-07-2010, 09:40 PM
alright

rush2
02-07-2010, 09:43 PM
lol

i remember seeing you wright xfish
hope you changed it

Xfish
02-07-2010, 09:45 PM
well thats true i did once but now its veks

Vagrant
02-07-2010, 09:47 PM
Its actualy the simplest letter....2bars...Thats it.....You pretty much can make your piece flow any way if you do it right....I like to use V in the center of a word....Makes for better styles IMO

the simplicity is what kills it.
There's not much you can do with it.
and of course a v looks good in the center, it's because its symmetrical
btw, V isn't the simplest.
what about an I or lowercase L?

Xfish
02-07-2010, 09:55 PM
that could be something to consider

weakfingers
02-07-2010, 10:39 PM
I hate I's for the simplicity, If i just do a bar in a straight they just look off..... Idk im probably just not doing something right...

streetology973
02-08-2010, 12:44 PM
any name can flow dependin on style.. dr .sex how many writers can freak an x like tht but thats my opinion veks is a hot name and if you try you can make it work nawmeen

Daz801
02-08-2010, 01:06 PM
Hey all first post!
how do you blend good with markers on paper i just can't do it

CrustOner
02-08-2010, 01:17 PM
Flick both the markers toward each other.

MasterStainers
02-08-2010, 01:26 PM
Any advice on colour schemes?

streetology973
02-08-2010, 01:26 PM
Flick both the markers toward each other.

i usualy just stroke lighter and slower ima try that tho

streetology973
02-08-2010, 01:28 PM
Any advice on colour schemes?

whitebeige brown shit like that if you try those use prisma

CrustOner
02-08-2010, 11:14 PM
colorschemedesigner.com

chill spots r my home
02-09-2010, 08:24 PM
quick question, is it bad if ther is a man in a black suit taking pictures of your tags???

Xfish
02-09-2010, 08:51 PM
maybe just a passerby but sounds liek a fed lol but do you really tear up your town? or are you one of the only real writers in your town?

CrustOner
02-09-2010, 08:54 PM
No. You should talk to him. He's probably a fellow writer. Just go write next to your old piece. He'll join in.

-Empty-Can-
02-09-2010, 08:58 PM
^Dammit crust I was gonna say that.

You should go up and ask him if he's a fellow vandal.

chill spots r my home
02-09-2010, 09:05 PM
well i get up but dont tear shit up but idk i just found it weird when i drove by cuz he had like a suit n tie on... hopefully no pig

Xfish
02-09-2010, 09:29 PM
hope not either but he could be a fellow writer see if he does it again and like they said go ask hey did you do this or something

CrustOner
02-09-2010, 09:46 PM
-___- some people are retarded.

streetology973
02-09-2010, 09:49 PM
-___- some people are retarded.

bump..

"CaN SmAsHeR"
02-09-2010, 10:08 PM
do not talk to the fucking dude in the suit you are fucking dumn if you do and i wish death upon you if you do you bitch jk
no dont talk to the guy
juss get a new name and
watch your back cuz that nigguh might be looking for you

prefer
02-09-2010, 11:42 PM
quick question, is it bad if ther is a man in a black suit taking pictures of your tags???

pro the cia or something, yeah you could ask him what are you doingm dont be so paranoid, its nt like he knows you write

prefer
02-09-2010, 11:43 PM
do not talk to the fucking dude in the suit you are fucking dumn if you do and i wish death upon you if you do you bitch jk
no dont talk to the guy
juss get a new name and
watch your back cuz that nigguh might be looking for you

yeaj i definatly good advice man

Fube
02-10-2010, 01:08 PM
quick question, is it bad if ther is a man in a black suit taking pictures of your tags???

are you guys fuckin retarded? No, do not talk to this guy.

i have some questions myself tho.

what was the tag on?

was there more then one tag or just yours?

could be a multitude of reasons why, but just cus a guy is in a suit dont mean hes a pussy.

you dont have to go all out and change your name, even if its a writer who gives a shit about tags? your not crossin fools out are you?

photos are how you get a case built on you. the more photos the bigger the charge if they know what you write. would it make any difference if you didnt see him take a flick?

this is getting up, if you let shit like folks taking pictures of your shit bother you then you need not get into graffiti. if everyone changed there name because of photos then there would be no point in getting up.

just dont get caught.

prefer
02-10-2010, 02:57 PM
Hey guys can we all make a thread called how to be as cool as atesk one please?

woonybomber
02-10-2010, 03:01 PM
or as cool as zen or blunted

prefer
02-10-2010, 03:03 PM
seriously blunted is such a cock and so is haze that bitch

chill spots r my home
02-10-2010, 03:03 PM
I KNOW IM NOT FUKIN RETARDED i wud never go and start talkin to the dude im not changing my tag im im not scared about him taking the pics and its not gonna change how much i go out i was just wonderin if any of u wer familiar with this like if u knew tht pigs usally do this...

prefer
02-10-2010, 06:24 PM
who the fuck cares who was taking a picture of it man serioisuy what deos it matter, just stay the fuck away from him alright

RustySpoon
02-10-2010, 06:54 PM
I'm thinking about writing Anok2 and i've done some research but just to be sure i'm wondering if anyone knows of experienced writers/kings that write Anok already and where they're from if possible.

prefer
02-10-2010, 06:59 PM
anok kuk, was a king from the bay he was up as hell untill kuk his crew got busted and they all retired, there a legendary crew from the bay and they are very well known and respected writers thought i should let you know

RustySpoon
02-10-2010, 07:04 PM
:/ well i'm from the other side of the country anyways. you think i should just ditch the name or go with it?

flask1995
02-10-2010, 08:37 PM
hey, how would you meet a writer in your area?

zennegen
02-10-2010, 08:57 PM
batman signal.

Xfish
02-10-2010, 09:11 PM
batman signal.

just what i was thinking

Flawless Victory
02-10-2010, 09:29 PM
http://i45.tinypic.com/25rzar4.jpg

woonybomber
02-10-2010, 10:01 PM
bomb it and they will come

flask1995
02-11-2010, 12:36 AM
cool thanks, found a perfect tag style, but the thing is another writer near my area uses it too, should i continue to write it or no?

Thrice
02-11-2010, 12:38 AM
If you came up with it first then keep doing it and diss the fuck out of him, otherwise, no. That's straight up biting, considering that it's basically an identical style.

flask1995
02-11-2010, 12:45 AM
aww alright, my bad, and by any chance does anyone know any techniques on racking paint? the walmart i go to, it's fucking locked up so i cant do jack shit bout it,

prefer
02-11-2010, 12:46 AM
:/ well i'm from the other side of the country anyways. you think i should just ditch the name or go with it?

your fine man, go with it just put 2

Fube
02-11-2010, 01:54 AM
i cant believe you fucks are asking questions on how to rack. if the shits locked up then dont rack there, go to home depot or lowes, they have so much shit they cant lock it all up. theres no secret to racking, you just go and do it. if they catch you RUN YOUR ASS OFF. they can only chase you so far. do not get caught, even if you have to ditch want you got. if you have the money to buy fuckin paint just buy it.

LeaksOne
02-11-2010, 01:57 AM
im glad somebody else isnt against buying paint. a majority of this site sees buying paint as a "toy" move.

Bets369R
02-11-2010, 02:08 AM
i buy all my paint. walmoart 98cent paint + walmart 10% employee discount=win.

Fube
02-11-2010, 02:21 AM
well, its not the 80's and 90's anymore, this life is not some "made for tv" graffiti movie. you just have to buy from the right people, not places that jack there cost up so they can just make a buck. to me your a toy if you pay 7 dollars a can of ANYTHING. now your the one gettin jacked.

most the racking i do is changing the scan bar from that cheap 98cent shit to the 6 dollar rusto. i know a shop that sells unclaimed freight for cheap and theres a lot of paint in that joint, they dont give you funny looks when you leave with 2 carts full eather. but mostly i get my shit on the internet. ****art operates near me.

Vagrant
02-11-2010, 02:23 AM
Get with it, leaks.
Yer not kewl unless you rack that shit!

Fube
02-11-2010, 02:31 AM
haha the movies really crack me up sometimes, like some grocery store just so happens to have shit tons of belton chillin in the back of the store. and its always some kid/border line adult with drug problems. sheesh.

LeaksOne
02-11-2010, 02:37 AM
haha yeah the walmart around here has rusto for like 4 bucks. which is decent to me

Laimonel
02-11-2010, 09:38 AM
Ey guys. Im new to this forum and i want to ask you something. I was wondering which of my throw-ups looks best and which i should write on the walls?
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/6153/nuotrauka0054.th.jpg (http://img691.imageshack.us/i/nuotrauka0054.jpg/)
a, b or c?

prefer
02-11-2010, 11:53 AM
im glad somebody else isnt against buying paint. a majority of this site sees buying paint as a "toy" move.

its none s buisness how you get any or your supplies, that your own buisness cuz

zaco
02-11-2010, 12:02 PM
is every thing on DHL free? there supplies page is a little confusing

prefer
02-11-2010, 12:15 PM
^ditto thats why i just buy sticks in stores, way less complicated

Fury
02-11-2010, 02:04 PM
I just basically buy dollar paint til I get better. Now and then, there'll be some colored american accents, but not as often.

It's just way easier practicing and bombing that way.

Armored Bulletz
02-11-2010, 02:11 PM
good tips and opions with the racking

prefer
02-11-2010, 03:39 PM
I just basically buy dollar paint til I get better. Now and then, there'll be some colored american accents, but not as often.

It's just way easier practicing and bombing that way.

people dont understand how fuckin complicated graff is, i get stressed just thinkin about it sometimes, sticker, pen, marker, paper, paint, pens, scribe, wait whats in my pocket again, i forget, oh i thought i had that, DAMN!

woonybomber
02-11-2010, 04:10 PM
aww alright, my bad, and by any chance does anyone know any techniques on racking paint? the walmart i go to, it's fucking locked up so i cant do jack shit bout it,

break the lock
snatch and run

Xfish
02-11-2010, 04:21 PM
does anyone know any techniques on racking paint? the walmart i go to, it's fucking locked up so i cant do jack shit bout it,

well you could get a gun and hold up the worker in the paint aisle and tell him youll shoot if he dosent open it then after he does grab a few cans and a snickers bar then run like you stole something or you could just find a buck or two in the couch coushins and then buy it
i dont rack either i mean 4 bucks isnt bad and i dont even paint that much yet i practice on paper mostly

woonybomber
02-11-2010, 04:27 PM
i waz gonna be like wtf are you stupid till you said grab a snickers bar lmfao