Blackbook Markers

[Special_K]

i use primas,decos,pilots and other misc pens and markers. also the type of paper you use is very important the best kind is the type thats smooth and shiny like the type for laser printers.

[KaL1]

the otr bbook markers are the shit.

[dripz]

are the new prismas sopposed to be better than the old one? cuz i like the old ones waaaay more

[enigmatic]

COPIC markers are the shit. Refillable ink, replacable nibs. what more could you ask for?

[scape-one]

are those OTR small markers good for blackbooks?, they say they are just wonderin if anybodys got em

[Bosh]

Don't waste money on an expenisve marker for books! Use a fucking board marker or drywipe, you don't need an unbuffable expenisve nice colour marker if your writing in a black book. Your just wasting good ink. Seriously try cheap shit ones you would never try on a wall on your paper and you will be satisfied.

[|Fresh|*]

i bought one black marker of these: http://www.mzee.com/ontherun/products/markers/blackbook/810/ ....
i have to buy some colors to see how good they are...

[KaL1]

Originally posted by scape-one@Aug 23 2006, 09:04 PM
are those OTR small markers good for blackbooks?, they say they are just wonderin if anybodys got em
to me.they are the best.theyre basically tiny tipped otrs.

[Flash_One]

I might get a pack of touch markers.

[Flash_One]

those otr markers are pretty nice thow.

[|Fresh|*]

i gone pick a 30 special touch markers pack too...

[-kosr-]

Originally posted by Bosh@Aug 24 2006, 10:22 AM
Don't waste money on an expenisve marker for books! Use a fucking board marker or drywipe, you don't need an unbuffable expenisve nice colour marker if your writing in a black book. Your just wasting good ink. Seriously try cheap shit ones you would never try on a wall on your paper and you will be satisfied.
well no one said anything about unbuffable markers <_< if you meant how people said stuff about using otr markers for sketching, look it up, they have sketching markers with small nibs, that you would never try on a wall, its not a waste of ink, you, are a waste of ink.
you still need good markers for your blackbook if you want it to look good.

[scape-one]

Originally posted by &#045;kosr&#045;+Aug 25 2006, 06:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (-kosr- @ Aug 25 2006, 06:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Bosh@Aug 24 2006, 10:22 AM
Don&#39;t waste money on an expenisve marker for books&#33; Use a fucking board marker or drywipe, you don&#39;t need an unbuffable expenisve nice colour marker if your writing in a black book. Your just wasting good ink. Seriously try cheap shit ones you would never try on a wall on your paper and you will be satisfied.
well no one said anything about unbuffable markers <_< if you meant how people said stuff about using otr markers for sketching, look it up, they have sketching markers with small nibs, that you would never try on a wall, its not a waste of ink, you, are a waste of ink.
you still need good markers for your blackbook if you want it to look good. [/b][/quote]
yayaay those are wat i was talkin about , the thin ones, not the big paint shits, i got 48 prismas and there pretty good, the bleed thru the page like a bitch and run out of juice pretty quick but i got em for &#036;40 instead of 100 somenthing brand new, not that bad at all

[ChRoMa 11820]

permopaques are amazing in my opinion
they dont go throuh pages or bleed
they arent paint but they are opaque pigment and are amazing for fills, fades, outlines whatever .
i got em at micheals

other good markers are the metallic sharpies and decocolor
prismas are also good

[goals set lessons learned]

what are you guys using for black outlines? i was using sharpy, but when i use my prisma colors after i outline the outline bleeds. just wondering if its just my paper, or if there&#39;s something better to use intead of black sharpy. im using just a reg sketch book becauses they dont have those bounded sketch books alota you use, which sometimes look like the paper is alittle thicker and sometimes alittle glossy.

[mind.or.matter]

^Are u filling with the prismas?? and if so, do u fill before or after u do the outline??

I use sharpies, I have like 50 of them that i got for 20 bucks.

[goals set lessons learned]

Originally posted by mind.or.matter@Sep 6 2006, 07:43 AM
^Are u filling with the prismas?? and if so, do u fill before or after u do the outline??

I use sharpies, I have like 50 of them that i got for 20 bucks.
im filling with the prisma over the outline done in sharpy.

[mind.or.matter]

^fill first then, prolly wont bleed, or at least not as much

[T_R_O_N]

i like the sakura permapaque markers, they are pretty good. they are also multy pourpose, i used one on a bus window really fucking sick outcome with the metallic blue, and candy apple green.

[BRAINE]

i dont like permapaque markers, unless you are drawing on something high gloss they dont come out clean, and they rip up your paper.

i use sharpies, copics, and prismas. i like copics the best
if youre using paper that doesnt suck up ink really fast (watercolor paper is the shit for sketching, but it soaks up all your ink, ruins markers, and is hard to get clean fills) i would just use sharpies.
i mostly do sharpie fine point and ultrafine point markers, and then use copics to blend fills together and do fades and shit. you can do blends if you just use sharpies and use a prisma or copic blender. they dont come out perfect, but they look good.

paint markers too, for highlights and forcefields and shit.

decocolor are my favorite paint marker for like fine point outlines and forcefields, but painters by elmers work the best, they dry fast and dont stay tacky like oil based do.


also, when i feel like i have to do an outline first, i use a decocolor ultra fine point marker, and do the fill with ink markers so it doesnt fade or blend or anything.
doesnt work good with metallic colors though, and if you pencil sketch and outline with paint marker, then erase your pencil lines, the paint marker outline gets kind of sketchy.

doing your outline in your fill color, filling it in, adding your 3d or dropdown or whatever, then doing a final outline in black or whathaveyou, is the best way to do it i think. i do alot of stickers, so i need sketches to look real clean and fancy so people dont regret trading with me

[-GEKS-]

i&#39;m rockin my 3&#036; pack of 20 washable crayolas, including 5 silly scent markers B)

[DEAD-EYES_M.M.]

for me, decos.

there the most common pens around my area, like a ten minute walk from my friends house. the only place that sales them is michealles (spelt wrong).

easy as fuck to rack almost anything from that place. from decos, prismas, microns and even black books. and now paint. my friend hooks me up.

buy decos are my main choice.

[fannypack uprock]

anything made by faber castel... prismas (if used properly) lectracolor... that sort of thing.. but theres nothin wrong with a decent marker with a piece of paper underneath the page to aviod the bleeding onto the page underneath..

[To.The.Beat]

Wurd. Connector pens from fabel castel. haha so good.

[2WICE]

i use Letrasets. they&#39;re bad ass. they have 3 tips, skinny, medium n thick.

[wookiE]

copic sketch markers are the best. they dont bleed through sketchbook paper and they are really high quality. the only problem is that if you dont rack them they are nearly 5 dollars a marker

[Ares_23us]

Pensil works perfect along with sharpies that have very low fumes

[Matyr]

fuck ink paint markers are where its at, solid fill, allows you to keep going over and over so if you fuck up you can fix it, looks better and you can use em for canvases too

oh yea does any1 know how otr paint liners work?? they fine point otrs for black books and im thinkin of gettin sum

[AT AT]

michaels is good . those retards pick the one aisle not to put a camera . the marker section . make sure the yarn section is heated . i could probably live in that aisle . all soft and shit aw yeh when i use like a pilot for handys i usually get a little high from the fumes so i get all creative and shit also brainstorm . colbert sniffed a marker on that numbers im not thinking of game . i saw it tonight . he had a red pilot jumbo that he hella sniffed and the crowd was like yyeaahahahaha .

[imported_big_boss]

Go here (http://www.megagear.com/category_s/7.htm) for Copic sets at a fairly reasonable price.

[¶$ñ�ê¹ <3 BèNع]

basically..you shouldnt be worrying about price..cause real writers RACK..but neway...company doesnt matter...every color you see that appeals to you..steal it..keep a test page..check the marker..if it works ok.. your good.

personally i like &#39;le plume" watercolors and anything else i get my hands on...most art stored have the markers singly in racks...usually i go in with a flight jacket and leave with pockets fullof markers




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[ironik_wa]

touchpens are realli good...

...but i use connecter pens lol :D

[*570 Ambush]

those copic markers look pretty sic i guess

[geto]

i use sharpie painters..i got them at joanns, not sure who else sells them, michaels sells &#39;em, but they lock &#39;em up with the decos. yeah, i&#39;m cool with racking up with paint. i haven&#39;t got caught yet, but i got the combination to the paint. =] oh yeah well, i use prisma colors too, mechanical pencil, eraser, and some shit called "painters". Elm or elmer that glue company made it i guess. the sharpie painters i suggest, but you can&#39;t write over another color, it smears, it has extra fine pt, fine pt, medium pt. etc.

[Super Duper VILLAIN]

i use uni paint markers which you can get at hardware stores, and i got a 24 set of watercolor markers at a craft store. they are pretty good although i wouldnt recommend them for stickers cause they&#39;re not waterproof.

[imported_big_boss]

Originally posted by ¶&#036;ñ�ê¹ <3 BèNع@Jan 12 2007, 03:07 AM
basically..you shouldnt be worrying about price..cause real writers RACK..but neway...company doesnt matter...every color you see that appeals to you..steal it..keep a test page..check the marker..if it works ok.. your good.

personally i like &#39;le plume" watercolors and anything else i get my hands on...most art stored have the markers singly in racks...usually i go in with a flight jacket and leave with pockets fullof markers




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Kinda hard to rack Copics when they aren&#39;t sold in stores anywhere in NJ.

[ras]

Copics take the fucking piss..£70 for 12...wtf...there havin a fucking laugh..

TouchTwin&#39;s..are...the....best...

[wookiE]

touchtwins are just as expensive where i live so i just get copics. and where i live you can just rack them so it is just a preference thing

[SCOPE2]

i just went to a 99 cennts store and found a bung of markers for a dollar, they were sharpies too. and there was also extra fine point centropens or some shit
il post pics later cause its a bundle

[ras]

Originally posted by wookiE@Jan 15 2007, 03:19 AM
touchtwins are just as expensive where i live so i just get copics. and where i live you can just rack them so it is just a preference thing
i understand you live in Japan..i think i read something saying you was from Japan..i may be wrong.. ?

[MuramZA]

Twintouch and Sakura Permapaque. Anything else and you&#39;re wasting your time.

[T_R_O_N]

Originally posted by MuramZA@Jan 19 2007, 08:41 PM
Twintouch and Sakura Permapaque. Anything else and you&#39;re wasting your time.
permapaques are ok, but they are not the best for complicated fills, but regardless they still rock for a tagging marker or bbook.

[SweetRevenge]

you for some of you guys that say u it leaks on any marker well wont it help if u placed 1 or 2 sheets of paper on the paper your working on DUH&#33;

personally i love prismas and copics then sharpies for quick shit
expensive..yes but u can always rack from art stores

[i write]

i take all my stuff from school, usually copics or some random felt markers which work really well. but i wish i knew how to use watercolours because id use those if i cud.

[StEaDy_LiMpS]

i just use sharpies for my book

[Mr. Lefty]

When doing a mural or flash production.. i use prismacolor pencils.. when doing graffiti.. right now im using bic mark-it markers because I&#39;ve yet to understand the shading involved in graffiti.

[GEMS]

i was wondering wats a good blackbook marker that i can but thats not 2 expensive and fils wiff good colour?

[sylvan18]

have you even read the last posts?

<_<

[[NESTER]]

i use pro markers there twin tipped and u can buy the colorless blender...there a cheaper alternative to the prismas.

[ras]

Originally posted by i write@Jan 20 2007, 10:00 AM
i take all my stuff from school, usually copics or some random felt markers which work really well. but i wish i knew how to use watercolours because id use those if i cud.
you say you rack from skool..so your skool has Copics.. :huh: ..what skool do you go too ? .. ill move there now

[meks]

ahhhh shiiit

prsmas
decos
painters
stupid double tip shit scrpbooking things
and the stoned clapping monkey for inspiration
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/8121/arsenal1va.png

[AnteUp]

ok im not even bout ta go all tha way through all tha fuckin pages to figure out how to blend prismas...ok i understand how to do it wit tha lighter color goin over the line were the darker color ends but i dont know how to blend with tha muthafuckin colorblender...sad...i kno but it would help if someone would tell me in detail...

[Sumoe]

just experiment with em&#39; and you&#39;ll get better.

[!HEKTO!]

ya man, its like driving a stick or sumthin noone ever told you did they?
no, yuo just got in a car and fucked around till.....
oh wait.
nvm.

[Sumoe]

you&#39;re funny. <_<

[zorkfromny]

Originally posted by dcite@May 3 2004, 09:32 PM
hey, i was just wondering what you all think the best markers for writing in books are. ive been using prismas, and AD&#39;s. is there any really high quality marker out there to buy for books?
I tHink Designers Are Fresh They Blend Pretty Good And Have A Lot Of Ink

[AnteUp]

could someone tell me how they fade? like how that person fades... <_<

[xXSARSXx]

anteup seriously? just go experiment and stop asking about fading just go try and see wut happends u will learn little tricks along the way

[v e n s r.]

prismas, le plume II brush pens, & microns

[Tye]

I use Sakuras there really nice for bbooks and stickers I think. Plus there super easy to steal at Michaels ;)

[Vow]

What is paint like on paper? Like decos and sakuras.

[backpacker]

are copics good?

[BizerkIZ]

Yeah there definately some of the best. Verrrrryyy expencive though.. not worth the money... rack...

i have acumulated a few draws of a mixture of prisma's charpacks, copics, letraset, magic markers (avalable in the uk only i think) deco's unipaints sharipies ect... paint markers go best on thick hardback sketchbook paper (with the slight grain) and design markers on marker paper..

i seem to get oil bleeding with paint markers on sketch paper.. unipaints only.. why only them?

[backpacker]

how about postermans.i now they have the big ones and smaller ones.

[1 Love]

yo has anyone other than news used those touch markers,, im thinking about dropping some cash for some, but i want opinions first
there like 50-70 cents less a marker than then the prismacolors.....but i still prefer the prismacolors.http://www.misterart.com/store/view/001/group_id/1626/Prismacolor-Marker-Sets.htm

[syeroner -416-]

wat r the best markers 4 fading?

[charles408]

http://www.condodomain.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/1-PACME3BL-Crayon.jpg

yep

no i like prisma but they leak and hard to use i ant to use copic but the are $$$ they are ALWAYS behind the counter

i hate decos they leave like a texture of paint behind

[DRIPS!]

honestly you think its a joke to use crayons but its not there sick i use them often
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/5673/hpim4266ts3.jpg

[charles408]

cool?
what would you need a crayon for?

[Jet]

fades son!

[a maze]

could someone tell me how they fade? like how that person fades... <_<

Don't EVER use the clear colorblender...

Worst waste of racking I've ever done.
It usually doesnt mix the colors unless its on an expensive type of paper (made for bleedy markers), and if you try it on regular BB shit it might/will leave an ugly oil-like mark on your paper, looking nothing like either of the colors. Using another lighter color will DEFINITELY blend better, speaking from experience.
Hoped this helped a little. ;)

[charles408]

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[[NESTER]]

ya color faders fucking suck all they do is leave a mess

[*cept*]

you guys can beak me all you want buty i am not a big fan of rakcing shit. first off all u can get slaped with heavy fines and banned form the stores, second uif you get caught racking paint they are obviosuly going to know your involved with graffiti and third of all when you but you shit its like you worked for it and earned it and jsut feels alot better. go ahead and make fun of me but this is my 2 cents on racking word, all you're doing is giving the pigs a job.

[regos]

prismas are fine you just gotta know how to use them really. what i do is a get the fat side, and do stripes so you have spots of blank paper, and just fill that in with the fine end. idk the actual way how to make things look really clean, but that works for me,

[easer]

i just put a dark color then go over it with a lighter color very quickly before it drys. done with prismas

[eyesergen]

tria pantones all the way!

[mada focka]

recently i tried "sharpie paints" and actaully really liked it, nice colors, though it can occasionally bleed onto the next page if you put it on reallly thick.

[staone]

i got my self some decos i think there pretty good for black books they dont bleed threw mines though so i dono guess it depnds on the book

[charles408]

yea buy you need a fkn resp when working with decos in a room

[twisties]

Might laugh but I picked up some Faber Castell Metallics and they work well in the BB.

I find Pentel bleeds too much but it also spits...Posca didn't bleed but it depends if you want that type of finish.

[decos1]

prismacolors bleed through, but i just a put a piece of paper under that page so that it doesnt get all the way through to the next fresh page.

[dred]

at a hardware store i saw krylon paint pens, will those work for sketching?
anyone used them before with their views?

[toys!]

Okay this is going to be really toy but are there any markers that "replicate" spray paint Ie. you can do an outline fill it in in like black and then do a white out line over the black, or like put a yellow bubble in the middle of a blue fill ?

Also has anyone tried the OTR paintliners ?

Finally if you could choose between decos or prismas what would you pick?

thanks im a big toy sorry.

[SAID]

decos are paint markers,
which allow you to overlap with other decos.
decos for canvases
prismas for blackbook

[toys!]

sweet thanks!

[SAID]

not a problem

[SIAH]

i use ZIG.s...they gotta fat end and a fine end,don't bleed...i'm a fan.

[westXcoast]

crayola suck
they smear onto your hand when your doing your work
i usually just use prismas and a lil bit of sharpies
:/

[mada focka]

at a hardware store i saw krylon paint pens, will those work for sketching?
anyone used them before with their views?


yeah, and my expirience with them was pretty awful. they arent consistent and smell bad. not like ink bad, like shit with barf on top bad. they also bleed through pages.

[partofme]

They also have the same issue as extra fine decos where just writing sometimes it will flow out a shit load of paint and ruin your sketch.

[westXcoast]

what is the best and cheapest markers for bbooks?(and last long)
with vibrant color?

which ones ????
can u name me like 3 or four different types

[SAID]

prismas
touch
faber castel
decos.


not really cheap.
rack away.

[coldnhot]

when I use decos, they always seem to blotch
how can I avoid ^_^?

[partofme]

Dont press really hard when you write. Otherwise you'll get that everytime.

[westXcoast]

yeaa...i said cheap
i have a 12 pack of prismas .

costed me like 25$(and that was with discount)./

[westXcoast]

its kinda hard rackin em at my art stores
like pearls or blicks

[inNoutluvr08]

I've said this before I think, but I always use decos for blackbooks, they're nice and bold.

co-sign.
i racked sum primas early today and they just bled through and the width wud like double in size ounce on paper, so i went to ac moore nd rackd sum deco's >=].

[mum]

haha as if some of u buy prismas ect
there a waste of time and money,whats rong with cheap felt pens,a biro,a pencil,some pencil crayons a fineliner.pick em all up from school for free.

had 4 letrasets,were nothing special all run out

[GTV]

I use touch markers. Nice color's and easy to rack. good stuff

[WoeInfinite]

so prismas really arent worth the price?

[Allthegoodnamesaretaken]

They're worth it if you got the money to spend on them.

[df_one]

u should rack deco there so easy to get

[letsg0skate]

Wow does micheals sell decos usually because I have looked a few times but never seen em, although I do see prismas a lot. If they do, what aisle would they be on? I've seen fabric decos but they aren't even paint markers lol.

[AnteUp]

they should be around the crafts section, i couldn't find them, then i saw them at the end of the isle

[df_one]

ya they do

[letsg0skate]

Okay maybe someone else beat me to them or something when I was there, will have to look again

[df_one]

just ask for them buy like 2 rack like 20

[Spyte]

I use Elmer's Painter markers.
They come in like 3 or 4 different sizes and a shit load of colors. None to big but perfect for bbooks. You can get them at like Michaels for 3 bucks for one.
But they're much cheaper if you use the five finger discount. I recommend using the discount.

[SNIK//:NEWK]

I wud go wit decos but they leak on to tha other page so make sure u have a paper under it.

[Bah Humbug]

i like prismas but to blend and fade them, u have to use the actual markers before they dry, not the blender cause it messes up the colours

[STR-WHO]

touch markers are alright, sharpies(not to much), i actually like using pencil crayons for my fill...

[syeroner -416-]

bah humbug is right
i like prismas but the blender is the hardest thing to use

[dim]

yeah man u can i got some a loomis the one on spadina security isnt that heat but id look out for servailence.

[polngi2]

I love king size sharpies, but they're only good on smooth surfaces :(

[maso1]

I use uni-posca's there pretty sweet

[SAID]

Posca's suck ass the nibs die after about two tags
..

[esco93]

:rolleyes:every time i come up with something dope i fuck it up with color pencils...im usin them cuz thats the only thing i got rite now..but yeah color pencils suck for blackbooks..4me anyway

[SAID]

not all the time.
they're good for faded fillin in the 3d.

[esco93]

true..what do you use

[SAID]

cheap shits.
havent racked in a while.
right now im using SUPERTIPS from crayola ahaha,
i like using the grey faber castells and light colors, sharpies here and there for pen freestyles, and abit of touches.

[esco93]

lol right on...i like to use high lighters for fills ..sharpie fine point for outline..i gotta get some more tho

[SAID]

highlighters for fillin in throwups

[thelowendtheory]

right now im using prismas and some decos

[OctoVenom]

what about these
http://amusenews.typepad.com/a_muse_news/images/2007/12/19/copic_marker_photo.jpg
orhttp://www.justcomponent.com/UploadFiles/markerdetails.jpg

[EgoZen]

Copics are better than touch markers...
But also more expensive...
If you need em much and are advance skilled then buy copics if not so then
buy Touch markers

[AMRO1]

Can someone PM me where can i buy touch marker and how much it cost..
Thanks AMRO1

[BadlilDuck]

i find letraset promarkers pretty sweet but they kinda run out too quick tho

[shiva - the destroyer]

Can someone PM me where can i buy touch marker and how much it cost..
Thanks AMRO1

no

[Waze]

i have a voucher and i want bbook stuff whats best?

http://shop.all-cityrecords.com/product/Marker___OTR_Touch/OTR_830_SET48_Main_Colours/9586

or

http://shop.all-cityrecords.com/product/Marker___Touch_Twin_/Touch_Twin___60_Set_60_B_TMS60B/2420

or

http://shop.all-cityrecords.com/product/Marker___Touch_Twin_/Touch_Twin___60_Set_Gamma_A_TMS60A/2418

thanks :)

[MontanaPainter]

none

[Waze]

none? well thats helpful
whats wrong with those?

[...Syerf]

prismacolors...wow:D
good stuff, i just orderd a 48 set off ebay for $50
next, gotta get some decos, but they are way harder to get it seems like
and they are more expensive:(

[Waze]

can anyone help with my question?

[SAID]

never tried your first choice.
out of all of them 1 or 3.

[...Syerf]

can anyone help with my question?

idk man thats genuinly a tough choice....
dont know about touch, i do hear that otr's are worthy
i like how you get 60 with the touch though, unlike the otr
but otr is cheaper....
depends on how much money your wanting to spend, and your style or work based on the colors you want to buy.
if you want to spend the money, go for touch, there are more colors, and a color chart.
as for which set, thats up to you. thats all i know though, hope i helped:D

[Kasket]

Sorry if this is the wrong thread, but i would like to know what the best markers for skateboards are.

[noxi]

Just use regular paint pens.

[Kasket]

k thank you.

[Waze]

idk man thats genuinly a tough choice....
dont know about touch, i do hear that otr's are worthy
i like how you get 60 with the touch though, unlike the otr
but otr is cheaper....
depends on how much money your wanting to spend, and your style or work based on the colors you want to buy.
if you want to spend the money, go for touch, there are more colors, and a color chart.
as for which set, thats up to you. thats all i know though, hope i helped:D

thanks, money dont matter think ill go for set a with the touchs

[Waze]

in case anyone cared which i dunno maybe syerf did or anyone else

i bought some touch and some otr and they both were pretty sick like the colours in both i think ill buy 1 and 3

[turkey train]

Been using these markers lately called LETRASET Pro Markers the're pretty dope website is http://www.letraset.com

[TRITE]

yo ive rolled through several blackbooks, bought em from borders or whatever, and every single one when i go to color a sketch, the markers bleed thru like 2-3 pages, im just wondering what weight paper everybody uses to avoid this nonsense, i been using prismas and sharpies but imma break down and but a the OTR uptown set, lemme kno

[alexhate]

prismacolors...wow:D
good stuff, i just orderd a 48 set off ebay for $50
next, gotta get some decos, but they are way harder to get it seems like
and they are more expensive:(

theres a good chance i sold those to you,thanks for paying my cellphone bill.hahah

[respERATION]

hahaha i use crayola,shrpie,prisma,posca,zig,artline

and whatever i can get my grubby little hands on

[wpgtags]

dont have that much blackbook markers but i get by...oh hey im in some ones sig! cool..
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/6019/mybbookmarkersiq0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
:mad::mad::mad:

[Thrice]

I've got a few decos, but mostly i use copics.

[germanoutline]

I rock decos mostly for now. But any chisel tip is fresh. Sometimes I tag with my own blood.

[exitus]

it seems like markers are easier to rack than cans
i used sharpies but they bled so i got those crayola markers, the 10 pack for like 2$
meh good enough

[illadelph]

what the fuck happened to them "Design" markers..? they were the fuckin best...I like them chartpacks too...prismas do the job just as good as all the other shit....I heard them otr touch knockoffs are dookie....I hear the fineline tip dries out really quick....and the wide end makes streaks when you're filling in....stick with the chartpacks/prismas/tria/copics...easy to grab and nice flavors....they have em on sale all the time too-for those who buy em....matter of fact,a brand new big-ass dick blick just opened up near my crib....muaaaahhaaaahhaaaaa.........poor fuckers.....they got a bunch of fuckin idiots working there...i asked where the dry pigment was and the bitch was like "i just started working here"...dumb ho...i didn't ask her all that...i still wanna know how you get a job at a art supply store and not know what pigment is...answer that fuckin question for me...plus i murked the stupid bitch at the register real nice...6 cand of montana gold,a 5-pack of canvas board,24 caps and a sketch pencil AND the dick blick "preferred customer" card for $14.99...i just kept asking all kindsa questions and makin her nervous and she only rang up one can and the canvas boards....fuckin genius...sorry for the long post...but i'm proud my questions/confusion technique worked so well....lol !

[exitus]

haha nice, but thell smart up soon. nice to have that next door though, mines a 20min drive. have a good time with your free paint

[ateb]

i have touch and prismas... Touch markers suck, the middle of broad tip is dried out, so outside is thick, inside has no color... as well as the fine point dried out. ive only had them for like 3 months, and i dont really use them that often, and yes the caps were always on.,


prismas work great, smooth fills, perfect.


and i use paint markers to make light reflections, and black colored pencil for shadows on top of marker.

and i use highlighters alot too, theyre nice bright colors for quick fillins, tryin new styles. nice and easy and cheap.

[exitus]

http://www.ssww.com/product/?sku=SC938&cm_mmc=Data%20Feeds-_-Froogle-_-CMB-_-SC938&cid=900&aid=FRG

jackpot, found em laying around my house
workes prety good so far

[H1TBYNUMB3RS]

http://www.ssww.com/product/?sku=SC938&cm_mmc=Data%20Feeds-_-Froogle-_-CMB-_-SC938&cid=900&aid=FRG

jackpot, found em laying around my house
workes prety good so far

haha, i use those too.
just light colors to fill in throws mostly..

[I Hold The Throne]

How the hell do u use prismas to blend n shit. It always comes out dark or some shit to me.

[EgoZen]

Touch markers suck IMO..
I racked quite many Sakura Permapauque markers, those work nice...

[SNAP!]

I always used paint markers, mainly elmers, and sharpies... to fade..i been brushin ink splatters around lately

[Thrice]

Dick blick is the fucking shit, i have one 3 mins from my house. That preffered customers and coupons shit is the best, I save so much fucking money. I wish they carried better sketchbooks for markers tho, I've used the 2 diff types they carry and they both shitty in different ways and the binding pisses me off so much, each page rip out.

[wpgtags]

@zen permapaques are good just a little light and the white sucks

[Kimo13]

if ur lookin fo really high quality, yea id suggest copic cuz prismas will smear pencil lines. U have to erase every trace of pencil if u want ur piece to look really good with prisma. Myself, i use Marvy brush tips. not the best, but descent quality & pretty cheap.

[LeaksOne]

i just stay simple an use sharpies an bics for fills an elmers paint markers for outlines. somtimes i use decos or prismas but i only have the basic packs. my favorites are the metallic prismas. stinky but super raw

[Newkidontheblock]

I use Decos and painty's.... decos have a better tip so the fill is cleaner but paintys have more colors...

[iBoMs]

touch twins are pretty decent but a 12 pack will run you about 30 bucks which is about the same price as the new otr's and they're pretty sick too. If you're having problems with your markers bleeding get a better book. paper quality makes all the difference and black books tend to last longer than your markers hence, a smarter investment

[ansichrist]

i mainly use copics, hell lot of shitty markers, small poscas & for higlights a whiteout pen.

[Noddles912300]

Prisma,elmers paint, decos, sharpie all work fine.
I suggest like a 70-80lbs paper, acid free. anything lower will bleed the slightest of inks.

[Ga.nK]

How the hell do u use prismas to blend n shit. It always comes out dark or some shit to me.

you can find something at an art store called a "blender" basically a marker with alcohol in it im pretty sure..

or you can take some rubbing alcohol and put that on a q-tip

[gunsofbrooklyn]

should i ask for those otr markers advertised on the bs website for christmas? are they any good? do they tend to bleed through paper?
markers dont bleed through acid free paper? what kind of bbook should i get then?

or should i just get prisma markers?

[TASR]

sharpie paints, these ZIG brand 2 tip outliner, touch markers, chalk markers are nice for outlines, myni prismas (brush and chisel tips) and these water colour brushes that you squeeze.

[wrekstyle]

Prisma and touch twin...i jus got some touch there ok now but ppl R saying they suck...

[Tofu_Eater]

http://pics.drugstore.com/prodimg/92914/200.jpg

no lie and highlighters
I like both.

[TASR]

Are sharpie paints comparable to decos?

[Slushi]

No, but there decent enough.

[Logicless]

Decos are nice and kind of easy to blend
with once you do it a few times, but sharpies
are still good and to me they look better than
decos.

[TASR]

how do you blend decos..(n00b question)

[Logicless]

well I have really only done like put down a
black 3d then put one shines in and smear the
white inwards. So then it turns to a grayish
if the black is still wet. I have done it a few times
with other colors but I just usually do it in
the 3d of my sketches.

[RUDE_Bwoy]

im starting to feel prismas more than sharpies sort of cause of the more color choice

[TASR]

the big chissel sharpies are nice for sketching shit

[$IN30NE]

i like prismas alot...
im looking to get some decocolors soon tho

[Mare*]

yo, i went to tescos yesterday and racked a 12 pack of sharpies and then this 10 pack of stabilo coloured pens, the nib is 1mm and i think thats the biggest you can get but they blend perfectly. but idk if there worth the money but definatly worth lifting.

[markingz.]

prisma fucking colors you stupid fucks, btw how are the otrs anyone and those new molotow can someone like get some pics up or somethin

[AVANDALNAMEDGNAR]

My girlfriend got me some Prisma's for Christmas, although at $3.79 a marker, I have a feeling she really didn't "Buy" them for me, but oh well..lol..But I've had Prismas before and I liked them..I'm just saying..

[H3TT1NG3R]

yea prismas are good. i dont waste my decos on bbooks, those are for canvas's stickers or posters

[TrandomnesstwO]

Fuck If I would fill in my sketches/throws with colour,then I would only buy the best shit and the best shit is much too expensive online,or at the high-risk art supply store.
So sticking with pen and pencil,an occasional marker for perfecting ma throws.

[fredfredburger]

zig painty's

[Delse]

chart-pak wood staining markers are so tight...the nib is like a prisma big side but way way bolder

[neb3636]

Any one know a brand that makes a good copper colored marker?

[Scratch]

like a copper paint marker?


http://www.luckysquirrel.com/aaimages/_embellishmentgallery/wordsection/mrkersjpgs/mrkrs_blk1.jpg

the middle ones Liquid Copper, and those are pretty good.

prisma makes really good quality paint markers in metallic colors, they have em at michaels and ac moore and stuff, im pretty sure they have copper, thats the one on the bottom.

[neb3636]

Besides a paint marker what black marker can go over gold pilot ink? none of my markers besides paints can make a solid line over it.

[neb3636]

Bump because this delema has caused a halt in my work. And please try to suggest something besides a black pilot.

[datwickednaptownshit]

you cant beat prismas

[neb3636]

thats one of the things i tried with. Im starting to think only black pilots can go over it.

[TrandomnesstwO]

Now I have -Sharpies,assorted colors -2 Decos, -random ass makers..Galaxy Way,Metallic Marker,Sakura Pen-Touch,and Zig Writers fine tip works pretty well.
Also two metallics of an apperantly no-name paint pens.

[thephillafromma]

OTR.840 (Artist Twin Markers - Set of 12) i just got these off the main page are they good?

[kap3]

Color pencils are good and they don't cost much

[Spraycan Stories]

Whats a good marker to outline with, i cant stand when you do a corner and it bleeds.

[kroc_oner]

shrpie poster paint .. extra fine black .. its the best

[Messer]

nooooo the extra fine poscaasssss

[BEDAROC]

dumbass question but how do you keep the copics and prismas from bleeding...i was told to color in faster but i dont got that good of steady hands...any idea?

[LeaksOne]

put loose leaf paper behind the page your working on. construction paper. its guna bleed regardless.

[Nurseofgonzo]

Sharpie paint pens..I think someone may have posted those? are a great option..espc. if the book as semi thick paper (most drawing books do.it only bleeds though to the other side of that page..and not onto the next page..if you know what I mean. Plus these seem to last FOREVER for some reason.

[BEDAROC]

put loose leaf paper behind the page your working on. construction paper. its guna bleed regardless.

im not trippin about bleeding onto the page behind it i meant to keep the colors from bleeding into each other in the piece..sorry i should have specified that more.lol.

[STFUPPERCUT]

crayolas sharpies prismas panatone and various markers, i go to the thrift store and pick up used markers in big bags for cents. also iv gotten glitter glue squeezable markers, ... that are usually dried up buti empty it out and put my own ink in and get some bomb results.( for tagging)

[LeaksOne]

im not trippin about bleeding onto the page behind it i meant to keep the colors from bleeding into each other in the piece..sorry i should have specified that more.lol.

oh gotcha. only thing i can suggest is use expensive markers or paint markers. i guess thats why decos are so poplular

[BEDAROC]

true.i guess my problem is i take to long so it bleeds alot of excess.oh well trial and error...

[thedudeman]

shrpie poster paint .. extra fine black .. its the best

ima have to try these out.. ive heard of em but the only place i seen em was at walmart

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[Silon295]

pilot broads are the best for books imo because you can easily refill them and the pilot ink only cost about 5 bucks and will last you a loooooooooooooong time

[Patchy]

For my black book i use these markers i found at a craft store. There called Dotta-riffic. They were 5 for 5 so i couldnt pass it up.

[inpho_211]

dam.ive never used posca or OTR.840 or none of that fancy shit..all i use is sharpies fine point and a white painter for the highlight..im a caveman..

[D O S E R]

crayola . deco .. fuck sharpies .. fine point markers & sometimes prisma
__________________________________________________ ________________________

There Is No Flyer .. Thats Like Jumping Over Jordan

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q107/eyeapple/leon__the_professional_by_gruye948.jpg

[inpho_211]

ur saying fuck sharpies and ur using crayola?? wut r u 7??
if u use em rite there alright..i wanna get some decos or some poscas..prisma markers are dope as fuck and the colorpencils are amazing..

[Th3t4]

black: paper mate - tikky graphics in 0.3 0.5 0.7
pilot twin marker (fine and broad)
pilot twin marker (fine and extra fine)
pilot DR in 0.1
and a molotow 127HS (both black and white)

colours: stabilo point 88 fine 0.4
letraset promarker twin tip
Dove craft brush and felt tip
and uni Posca bullet tip/fine line

i think thats all the markers i have :P

[black midget]

those martha stewart waterbased markers are nice..prisma broad and fine line markers..

[lakim shabazz]

anything that i can get my hands on kids sticking to just ONE type of medium you'll never progress.

[notorious_rame]

^^ homebody has a point. My friend was on house arest for a longgg ass time and his Po always checked in on him to make sure he didnt have any markers or anything so he had to start using straight pencil pen and crayola shit. He addapted.

[Harp]

i use highlighters...they work fine except there isnt much color selection.

[Hailite]

i normally go with a .5 mechanical pencil at first, ink with a .5 fine tip pen, then i color it with some watercolor pens. they blend really well, but it definately looks like marker. very vibrant though

[lakim shabazz]

fuck pencils!!

[Th3t4]

fuck pencils!!

most of the time, yes
fine stuff I would still use a pencil to start

[circledee]

prismas. the O.T.R markers are basically the same thing too, they are sick

[LACAN]

don't skip the golds and silvers, that's what makes the piece
http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/zz217/tolexin/metal.jpg

[n8galicia]

those OTRs are nice indeed.

[Patchy]

OTR expensive but thats what i use

[Stevieboy7]

Get letraset tria markers.
Chisel, fine and Brush tips all in one marker.
The brush tips are fuckin killer.

[LACAN]

http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/zz217/tolexin/markersstash1.jpg
gotta use paint!

[tickz]

copic or letraset, like stevie boy says- letraset tria are the ones..
I havnt read the thread so this might already have been said but it is all about the paper......get yourself a copic bleedproof pad. no bleed and unlike the pens you can get them cheap, £7,$10.
And ^^^ someone up there was slating Crayola pens....check out the crayola washables (these are for under 3's,so you can get the ink out of sofas and my carpet) they are water based so you can wet the pen after you have laid on a colour and get good shading effects, or wet a kitchen towel and lift the pigment out...telling you now, you will not get a better filling pen for £4,$6 for twelve.

[sodi]

I use Uni Paints for fills and the Uni Super Paint marker for outlines.
They work great for me. But when you first get them, make sure you shake for about 2 minutes and then press down on blank paper until ink starts coming out.
You should get them!

[VabRannaelarp]

I love it at the stores in our area. Even if you are rightfully one of the first in line, everyone just glares at you like you shouldnt be there. I especially loved last year when I got a digital camera on sale at KMart. Got the last one, and everybody flipped. Then, the 2GB SD cards were on sale for like 12, I think. I had to make several attempts at getting over to their location because it was a popular spot for the elderly to hang out for some reason.

[prefer]

i use prisma

[STEP TWO]

i use prisma. AD r nice but the bleed wicked bad and fuck up sharpie outlines which prismas dont.

[.nolove.]

fuck my unusually small penis which has a striking resemblance to pencils, but only after the have been sharpened down to the eraser!!

Yeah man thats gotta suck...

[408Bomber]

gunna go get me a basic set of prismas today :D

[.nolove.]

i thought those color by numbers book came with the crayons all ready in them...or was i wrong?

[inpho_211]

I love it at the stores in our area. Even if you are rightfully one of the first in line, everyone just glares at you like you shouldnt be there. I especially loved last year when I got a digital camera on sale at KMart. Got the last one, and everybody flipped. Then, the 2GB SD cards were on sale for like 12, I think. I had to make several attempts at getting over to their location because it was a popular spot for the elderly to hang out for some reason.

WUT?? are the molotow's any good??

[zennegen]

WUT?? are the molotow's any good??

YES.

titties.

[inpho_211]

there tittie good huh..
lick..
needa try them out..

[Zookyook]

yea my one4alls kick the living fuck outta anything ive ever used before... theyre paint markers that actually last and the nib never gets soaked or dry... perfect... i also use OTR prisma-style markers, never used prismas before but ive looked at them in stores and i can imagine them being a lot like OTR... use canvas paper blackbooks though or ur shits gonna bleed, and its a must with the one4alls because u straight cant write on normal paper with those, u can only do like one thin layer or it tears up the paper quick.

[prefer]

WUT?? are the molotow's any good??

there alright i think really any marker can be used for sketchin except for like those crayolas lol those really suck

[flask1995]

Well i have a little taste in style. Depending on what I use, I use deco's for pieces and like throwies and stuff, Prisma's I would use for outlining or tagging but I would mainly use prisma's to do pieces in my blackbook.

[massacreman]

prismas for tagging deco's in your blackbook?
http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq142/bigzeesh92/u-mad1.jpg
prismas for blackbook, deco for canvasses and stuff.


bytheway

i have just racked some edding 4040, and the nib is like dried out, i can pump the nib until it explodes but it still streaks, my other edding 4040's dont... any suggestions??

[rush2]

take it out and soak in acetone

[zennegen]

there alright i think really any marker can be used for sketchin except for like those crayolas lol those really suck

clearly you have no idea what you're talking about if you're comparing molotow markers with any other marker.

[massacreman]

thanks rush, ive tried it and it worked, thumbs up

[Noz]

damn yo i need prismas...

[ToNiC]

http://www.ssww.com/product/?sku=SC938&cm_mmc=Data%20Feeds-_-Froogle-_-CMB-_-SC938&cid=900&aid=FRG

jackpot, found em laying around my house
workes prety good so far

For those of us too poor to afford anything but printer paper this is no good. They ruin the paper and you can't fade or blend. Also, trying to darken your lines only ends up flaking the paper off in this weird way. It like eats it bro.

For those of you who can afford to drop seventy bucks, a basic Grog Cutter kit can really go a long way. I like mine. =D

[a_theory]

i use artmarker markers for the book, they bleed thru alittle but not as bad as other brands and they are not too $$$ prisma would be my first choice tho.

[sez¹]

This website (http://carpediemstore.com/listCategoriesAndProducts.asp?idCategory=80) has Copics and Prismas for really cheap. What do you guys think of the Copics?

[HëRbN]

there very similair to prismas. However you can order the ink alone and actually blend your own colors and fill there empty markers they sell and have unpresedented artist freedom at your fat little finger tips. On the real though their good markers, they got XL's too that are like 3/4 of an inch i think

[sez¹]

Yeah I got the ultimate black set just to check them out and I'm thinking of ordering the 72A set and a stand

[CrustOner]

Holy shit, sez, thank you so much for that website.