Blackbook Markers

[dcite]

hey, i was just wondering what you all think the best markers for writing in books are. ive been using prismas, and AD's. is there any really high quality marker out there to buy for books?

[miklo]

hey thats a good question...cuz i'v used deco's but those stain onto other pages...and sharpies leak and just don't look viberant. i wanna see wat i can hit up with in books. hhhhhhhmmmmmmm prismas u say :rolleyes:

[Swollen Member]

Prismas are nice, but are expensive if you can't them. I go with Copics. They don't bleed like the Prismas usually do in my blackbook.

[miklo]

Originally posted by Swollen Member@May 3 2004, 09:35 PM
Prismas are nice, but are expensive if you can't them. I go with Copics. They don't bleed like the Prismas usually do in my blackbook.
o ok. do they ahve those at "workmans" ?

[MisterSpeak]

Go check were not psycic.

[Swollen Member]

Copic (http://www.copicmarker.com/)


That's the Copic website. Check out the gallery, it features some raw shit. I would suggest racking but I just got slammed with a fine so...go ahead and buy them.

[ACE512]

i usuall just use pencil i like mechanical sometimes cuz it realy gets that detail without having to constantly sharpen the pencil. and sharpies thin tips usually i sometimes use prisma colored penicls but i havnt i have a brandnew box and i dont feel like sharpening (so ill use anything that doesnt have anything to do with sharpening lol)

[Reo]

yeah yeah... i don't suggest sharpies simply becuase they bleed worse than a 12 year old having her period fo the first time. if you want to get a nice thick black line for a cheap cost i highly suggest using any sort of thin felt-tip pen. felt-tips get a sick line as well as no bleeding. as for colour? you can't beat a nice marker set, but everyone knows how dirty expensive they are...my recomendations? use pencil crayons. they work really well, espescially if you're not really macking up some proffesional pieces but want to test out some styles.

[pSYKAOz]

just get a set of super cheapo markers... you know in the kids section at wallmart... its good enuff

[Kayone707]

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[ESNED]

well all i use is sharpies when i write for hours and hours on end in 300 page notebooks. and then for sketches like pieces i use prisms,crayola, ect

[OnlyOneCdM]

crayola is good for blackbooks, its cheap and it doesnt leak as bad as sharpies, wider tip tho

[imported_newz12]

Sharpies and Touch markers... But the sharpie is only for the outline. If you want to fill with a sharpie it's sure that it will "bleed".

[dcite]

awesome thanks

[HELO]

yo has anyone other than news used those touch markers,, im thinking about dropping some cash for some, but i want opinions first

[Swollen Member]

Do you live in Europe, HELO?

[jade]

i stiken with my pencil crayons.....get 120 dif culurs for like 15 bucks from zellers

[MODGrafix]

Deco markers are awesome except for the fact that they bleed through your pages really bad. They come in like 300 different colors and sizes. they have some really tiny ballp[oint paint pens which are awesome for detail.

[geezpot]

Prisma felts or Letraset promarkers
pencil
eraser
gel pens assorted colors
pilot fineliner
Sanford Sharpie assorted sizes and tips
ITOYA calligraphy pen
KOH-I-NOOR Rapidograph adjust size pen

That's my basic arsenal, I pretty much am like akid in a candy store when I hit an art store standing in the pen/felt aisle.

A good spot to buy shit is ebay, I find good deals on there for most stuff.

GEEZ

[pSYKAOz]

ya me in an art store is badddd.... i empty my wallet in no time haha

if your shit bleeds to uch get marker paper. i found some decent one like 30 pages for less then 2$CAN... it was like in the kids section at omer deserres

[ESNED]

me in art stores are bad i fill my pockets in no time

[geezpot]

I'm not a big fan of stealing high end art supplies. The good stuff is only at selected stores and personally I don't want to get banned for stealing stuff. Art is my drug and if I got banned from my drug store and wanted some new fresh felt colors or whatever I would look pretty stupid standing outside with my loot asking some nanny to bootleg my pens because I was stupid enough to rip them off and get banned.
If your gonna steal, hit the big stores. If you're really passionate about urban arts and excelling your skillz you need to realize that the pimping art stuff ISN'T at walmart but at specialty art stores who are mostly independently owned. Kinda like buying NY thins, if you steal from the only store in town that sells them and you get banned from the store you're stuck. Although if Walmart started selling caps they'd be robbed blinder than the 5cent aisle at 7/11. Lots of people steal Krylon but not many writers steal Montana's-its a respect thing.

GEEZ

[pSYKAOz]

plus art stores have mad security

[fáng1]

:ph34r: if you steal your art supplys, and get caught and youve allready been caught for graff, you are just giving graffiti a worse name than it all ready has, and we dont need that kinda publisity. but as for me i use gel markers, or i use this matelic marker my art teacher gave me, it doesnt leak through, i dont know what there called, but you get them at office depot for like .90 cents, but there like half the size of 'on the run' markers and run out fast.

[dcite]

yo Geez, seriously man, good words. i think well all think about that a little more now..

[dust]

COPIC markers are the most high quality marker i have ever used. They blend well and work awsome details. They are refillable and the inl lasts preaty long. they dont fade or smudge.

However they are like $6.50 a pop and that a heavy price for a blackbook marker, and their difficult to rack if ur not a pro :P

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[illmatik1]

i use prismas cuz they can blend..not like decos...at first i used decos.....buh then i discovered prismas....but the thing is about prismas...when their nue..they bleed onto the next 2 pages like crazy....buh i like the way they can be blended....looks sick...

[stak]

no point to addin this.. ctrl-z and ctrl-y should apply in the real world.

[dluxd0cs1k]

damn... :angry: .... what the fuck is up with all you k1dS that be buying your shit at the store... ever heard of coping your shit....??? <_< also...other markers that are opaque like deco markers are "painters" you can get them at Aaron Brothers or Michaels or Joan's.... most likely to be in the marker section next to the deco or where they have the markers that shake. They are exactly like deco's except without the whole runing thru the page problem.

[QUO]

prisma'a are already sick on blackbook material...never use shapries (obviously) cuz they bleed throught thepage...if your gonna top off ur work with lining i suggest the .5 or .7 pilot.

[Kayone707]

ive been using prismas ...If u use Prismas then u already got the top-notch B-Book markers. Gel pens are good 2 but they take forever cuz the flow is so small

[cyras1]

What i use alot is the Kimberly Watercolor Pencilsyou could make theme as bold as you want(first otline with color pincil then get a extra fine brush and dip in water then go ove the out line)or you could damp the paper with a sponge and make a fade with the color pincil.then you could blend the colors together.But you dont have to use water all the time you could use them like regular color pencils.they cost like 5.00(12 colors in a box)
:D

[Flaw_fsm]

Sakura Pigment ink markers (permapaque), there not paint but are milky and look really good and opaque and they are double tipped so you can use the bullet nib on one side and chisel tip on the other

[Scuba]

prismacolors....

[4CE(FORCE)]

Originally posted by Reo@May 3 2004, 10:23 PM
yeah yeah... i don't suggest sharpies simply becuase they bleed worse than a 12 year old having her period fo the first time.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!YEAH :lol:

[Dsenter NAV]

yeah i've tried just like felt tip markers but they overlap and leave all thesew lines all over your shit.
at the moment im usin pencils, they aren't as strong as pens, but u can fade and shit.
im also thinkin bout buyin some of those touch markers. they look crazy....

[kosmo1ne]

prismas...but if nothin else then just use sharpies with a folded piece of notebook paper underneath...it works for me

[kamikaze]

CopIcs are so expensive, but are really nice!

[ESNED]

i use sharpies simple enough

[Mr. President]

those copic markers look sweet but im not big on 5 dallatr each markers

[Lesh]

the best thing for me is a mix of tria markers and ultra mini zig painty markers....expensive but crazy looking....for those with a smaller budget, mini crayola felt markers are ideal

[trueedger]

on the run have a black book marker like it says black book marker on it it 2.75 at liquidcrack.com

[CR4CK4 SM4CK4]

Originally posted by Swollen Member@May 3 2004, 09:35 PM
Prismas are nice, but are expensive if you can't them. I go with Copics. They don't bleed like the Prismas usually do in my blackbook.
^^

Dont buy prismas, rack em'


*might have already been said*

[oblong]

you guys can beak me all you want buty i am not a big fan of rakcing shit. first off all u can get slaped with heavy fines and banned form the stores, second uif you get caught racking paint they are obviosuly going to know your involved with graffiti and third of all when you but you shit its like you worked for it and earned it and jsut feels alot better. go ahead and make fun of me but this is my 2 cents on racking

[CaliforniaSkan]

I feel way better racking than buying.. I actually feel weird paying for stuff now.

[RealShitter]

:ph34r: i use the extra fine sharpies for the detailed peices. Decos and prisma colors are really good, If you dont want it to bleed than just put a peice of printer paper under the page your hittin. I thind prisma color markers and pencils are really good. prisma markers are expensive but i just rack them from michaels. I racked 2 of the 24 color sets I just put them in a back pack and left.

[toazt]

EDIT: I didn't see RealShitter's post when I started typing mine, he said pretty much the same thing as me in just a few sentences, my bad folks! :o

I got my first pack of primas off eBay, it was a 24 pack for about $35(USD), but the dude tried to jerk me so I had to call him and leave messages saying I was going to call the better business bureau and the police and shit, took me about a month but eventually I got them. so if you're not down with rackin, you can get a better deal on eBay...

Here in the states we got a huge arts & crafts chain called Michael's, I like to think of it as the free art store, I'm not really down with racking on a whole, but if the place is practically begging to be robbed, well, sometimes I just can't help myself. Last time I went there I strolled in with an empty backpack, copped a 48 pack of the prismas, as well as some decos and microns, strolled outta there the same way I came in 'cept my bag was full, no problem at all...

As for bleeding, I got half size sketchbook (probably 8'' x 5'' or something?) , so I fold a 8 x 11 sheet in half and put it underneath the page I'm lacing, so bleeding isnt a problem. Deco's are pretty tight, I like them for forefields and shit (I've never had a problem with them bleeding either). For outlines I like to use Pigma Microns, no ones mentioned them, but I'd assume you folks got them in the CA... micron's are crazy dope, china white type shit...

thats my 1/50th of $1 right there...

[Thief]

Yea, gotta love michales.

[vegimite on toast]

ggdg

[toy_ONED]

when buying prismas or copics, what type to buy!?!?! it has stuff on the packs that goes like 12% grey or 20% red or some shit....primary and secondary colors...i use to take art class so i would know, but i forgot. so can someone help me out?

[BeKON]

yo. does no one use "perma paque" s ?? those shits kill. i dont know, they run out fast on paper though cos the paper soaks it up. For black booking i recomend perma paques though. also, i heard of a marker that holds the same color no matter how many times you go over it. they also layer. sounds like a paint pen to me, but i heard not. ill find the name. those sound tight.

LTS
KAS
KOG

[Wombat]

GO TO MICHAEL'S AND RACK PRISMA COLORS!!!
NUFF SAID..

[RMA]

I use strictly Prisma Colored Pencils, I've got about 4 Prisma Markers that I've been playing around with and their not bad better then the crayola and mr.sketch markers I've used. Bleeding really isnt a problem at all, I just always have about 50 pieces of paper tucked in my book for when people ask me to draw them shit or when I don't feel like filling my book with total crap.

[Daskins]

i use prismacolor markers and i love the color... they do bleed to the next page though so use like a thick paper underneath what u trying to color in.

[DEMO]

with prismas you cant draw over with a lighter colour so you can only do so much.... wack an artist needs the freedom

[geezpot]

Prisma are great pens but they dry out to quick for me, so lately I've been buying Letraset promarker series. You can buy them in singles not like prismas where you have to buy a box set.
I would recommend the Letrasets over the prismas, both are around the same price but one lasts longer.
My only bad comment is that the Letraset felt bleeds a little more than Prismas.

I also use a 'bleed sheet' under every page when sketching.

[.44magnum]

Originally posted by oblong@May 23 2004, 01:12 AM
you guys can beak me all you want buty i am not a big fan of rakcing shit. first off all u can get slaped with heavy fines and banned form the stores, second uif you get caught racking paint they are obviosuly going to know your involved with graffiti and third of all when you but you shit its like you worked for it and earned it and jsut feels alot better. go ahead and make fun of me but this is my 2 cents on racking
i wouldn't only get banned from the shop, i'd probably get kicked out of the country i now live in :) for like five years or something...

[*Baozone*]

prisma markers and pencils are dope, its all bout crayola muthafuka! haha, im playin

[dcite]

GEEZ, you can buy prismas in single, for about 2.40$. and yeah ive found better markers, the chartpaks, but like the letrasets your talking about they bleed like crazy

[geezpot]

Originally posted by dcite@Jun 11 2004, 08:46 PM
GEEZ, you can buy prismas in single, for about 2.40$. and yeah ive found better markers, the chartpaks, but like the letrasets your talking about they bleed like crazy
Are you in the 604 area code?
I can't find singles anywhere, and I hit the art stores frequently.

[Tony]

Originally posted by geezpot+Jun 11 2004, 10:28 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (geezpot @ Jun 11 2004, 10:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-dcite@Jun 11 2004, 08:46 PM
GEEZ, you can buy prismas in single, for about 2.40$. and yeah ive found better markers, the chartpaks, but like the letrasets your talking about they bleed like crazy
Are you in the 604 area code?
I can't find singles anywhere, and I hit the art stores frequently. [/b][/quote]
michaels sells them in singles. i dont think they are in the same area.

[jurass finish first]

Originally posted by geezpot@May 4 2004, 07:42 PM
I'm not a big fan of stealing high end art supplies. The good stuff is only at selected stores and personally I don't want to get banned for stealing stuff. Art is my drug and if I got banned from my drug store and wanted some new fresh felt colors or whatever I would look pretty stupid standing outside with my loot asking some nanny to bootleg my pens because I was stupid enough to rip them off and get banned.
If your gonna steal, hit the big stores. If you're really passionate about urban arts and excelling your skillz you need to realize that the pimping art stuff ISN'T at walmart but at specialty art stores who are mostly independently owned. Kinda like buying NY thins, if you steal from the only store in town that sells them and you get banned from the store you're stuck. Although if Walmart started selling caps they'd be robbed blinder than the 5cent aisle at 7/11. Lots of people steal Krylon but not many writers steal Montana's-its a respect thing.

GEEZ
ya it would suck if i got banned from michaels or something cuz thats where i get most of my markers now but about that stealing montana thing. . . its not that i respect the paint company more or anything, its that only graffiti shops carry their stuff and most of those shops are independant. . . and where im from theres only 1graf shop so theres no way im racking anything from there

[Freddy Fresh 137]

"Sharpies and Touch markers... But the sharpie is only for the outline. If you want to fill with a sharpie it's sure that it will "bleed"."

That was just well said Newz12.

Sharpies are perfect to work in the book. Well, my book tho. peace

[darkling_stalkr]

what the real different between a cheap brand like crayola and a brand like primas or a more expensive name ? i really dont see how i marker for a bbook could be that much better.

[*Baozone*]

prisma are just so called " high quality"

[MASE]

prizams are the best period u can get them at michchels jus steal them they are easy to jack

[MASE]

peisams marker are better becase like craolya markers the dont smear and and like craola like if u use yellow next to a black line or any color they the black does not smear on to the yellow market

[odd_laws_broke]

I`ll put it to you straight. If you use crayola, you belong back in kindergarten.

Prisma is the hottest non-paint marker PERIOD. There`s no debate about it. Look at quality work done with prismas and realize how many techniques can be applied to these things. Prisma gets a bump for life.

[jurass finish first]

to be honest i dont see what all the hoopla about prismas is. i tried one out on that demo paper at michaels and it bled and didnt even look that great. i still like using sakura permapaques except theres not too many colors

[glue]

i tried a prisma, it was like a highlighter with more variety. i use sharpies because im poor.

[prophet]

im too poor to get all these expenxive prisims and stuff so i get my dad to get me some sharpies from his work and i go to liquidation world and stuff like that and u can get mad deals there i found a place that sell painters for $2 and those uni pens 4 2 bucks too its dope. and for the bleeding from the sharpies that ppl are comlpainin about just have a crap piece of paper that u put behind under it plain and simple :D

[Demur1]

i use little kid markers cause that's all i got at the moment :(
i'm gonna get some prismas soon though

[HeTaK-cac]

prismacolorz sont bon mais les crayola pointe fine sont aussi bon pour le fill in

[ALGAE]

Who cares, use whatever. You can tell from other threads whats good, Copics and Prismas. But use what you have I guess or whatever works best for you.

[MANiAkONe]

all i know is that i use crayola markers cuzz they dont bleed when im just taggin on paper and wooden crayons for graphs and euro style shit there...

[Skippy]

i like messin with alot of blues like true blue royal blue and all that.i like the prisma blue they dope and i like using oranges..orange with redish and all that....but the orange and redish prismas aren't all that great for me..what other good amrekrs are there out..in those colors that will work good.

[dcite]

chartpacks all tha way

[CaSoNe]

Originally posted by MANiAkONe@Jun 27 2004, 06:46 PM
all i know is that i use crayola markers cuzz they dont bleed when im just taggin on paper and wooden crayons for graphs and euro style shit there...
crayolas suck

[DA'SeLMeR'']

Originally posted by Swollen Member@May 3 2004, 09:35 PM
Prismas are nice, but are expensive if you can't them. I go with Copics. They don't bleed like the Prismas usually do in my blackbook.
copics are 2x more expensive :rolleyes:

[QUO]

prisma's are the best way to go believe me, they help u w/ color theory and blending...prisma's and pilot thins 0.5 ... oh and never use sharpies...u prolly know that by now...but for anyone esle..sharpies are not blackbook material...they're ink tends to bleed...

[vancitybomber]

prismacolors are theee best. they only bleed if your using bad paper or if you suck. copics are way overated and expensive. you can get the primary and secondary set of prismas for $19. that is a good price considering the quality.

[expo]

you know i racked a marker the other day called "chartpak" it's awsome but leaks on the other side of the paper.


i'm going to rack a whole set sometime soon i'll get back when i do so.

[dcite]

chartpacks all tha way

yeah, we know about chartpacks, and all markers "leak" onto the other side of the page.

[expo]

Originally posted by dcite@Jul 8 2004, 10:45 AM
chartpacks all tha way

yeah, we know about chartpacks, and all markers "leak" onto the other side of the page.
well not rose art that where it's at..........

[SYBUR]

:blink: THE BEST MARKERS FOR BLACK BOOKS ARE DECO'S!!! A BIT EXPENSIVE BUT U CAN ALWAYS RACK THEM FROM ART STORES..

[Reso One]

where can i find DECOs!!???

[Scaf.]

haha funny sutff, any art store.

[Reso One]

ive been to my art stores they aint got shit!

[Scaf.]

Try ordering some of the net.

[CaSoNe]

u must got some shity art stores

[Reso One]

give me the site

[CaSoNe]

cant u do anything urself search for it go to google or something

[Scaf.]

Really man, just type in deco paint markers or somthing in google, Lots will appear.

[Reso One]

those suck! i can get the same shit at hobby lobby

[Scaf.]

Yes, you can...any gel pen will ALMOST give you the same results.

[dcite]

crap reso, ive seen you ask about decos in like 4 threads. just use prismas or chartpacks man, come on!

[JEK_oner]

theres a cheap marker you can get at staples.. theyre called "laurentian".. theyre really good if you know how to work em.. they'll blend into eachother nicely and if you're quick with your fill, you usually dont have to worry about lines that look ugly..

and theyre made by the same people who do prismas too..

[expo]

Originally posted by CaliforniaSkan@May 23 2004, 01:55 AM
I feel way better racking than buying.. I actually feel weird paying for stuff now.
haha i start looking around to see if anyone is watching like hey your not allowed to buy stuff!!!!!

[Alyte]

Originally posted by JEK_oner@Jul 9 2004, 11:25 PM
theres a cheap marker you can get at staples.. theyre called "laurentian".. theyre really good if you know how to work em.. they'll blend into eachother nicely and if you're quick with your fill, you usually dont have to worry about lines that look ugly..

and theyre made by the same people who do prismas too..
i know, i've fallen in love with them...

[x_influenced]

wwell i've been writing for a year now...i figured thats just below average for ym age (16) but i mainly use prismas...at first i started with decos but i just stopped liking them when i found out about prismas.....prismas and AD are almosr the exact same thing...but the thing is about graff is that writers use the most expensive stuff so its harder for toys and shit to keep up especially if they have no money and cant really jack anything....

so basically wut im saying is that maybe using what u got and knoing how it marks should do good for u ....i only use prismas cuz i can jack them easily from aarons brothers and they are nothing but go0d...i thingk i must of stole at least about $300 (u.s) in markers and that only got me like 100+ markers....

just stay up....

[panda]

i use decos and prismas :D

[±SC±·°¯¨ΔΚΓǾ]

I prefer TRIA or prisma .... the same thing but prisma is cheaper ....

[Kayone707]

u rich people and ur rich prismas

[Emerica]

ok i have a bbooks and when i use prismas for it when i fill or outline it just spreads (ill make a small line and it gets two times as bigger. hat happen to you?

[infer one]

[QUOTE] i don't suggest sharpies simply becuase they bleed worse than a 12 year old having her period fo the first time.
LMAO, SAME HERE, I USED TO USE DECO'S BUT THEY ARE WORSE THAN SHARPIES AND IF YOU USE THEM LONG ENOUGH YOU GET HIGH OFF THE SMELL, IM GOOD WITH THE PRISMA'S CUZ THEY AINT THAT BAD.

[sens]

i used to use COPIC, but now im trying out the chartpak markers. chartpak has a really nice opaque look once they dry. my art store sells them individually so i go on ~$100 racking runs every month or so...

[joust]

AAAHHHH NNOOOOOO YOU GUYS AND GALS DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT. hands down best markers ever are permopaques their opaque as shit, the colors dont bleed like thoes shitty prismas do, and they dont go through your paper, just amazing color quality. about $2 each, come in some metallics as well.

[aCId II nz]

faber castell felt tips i usta use em and they allright got some good colors but ya ima use copics

[PANIC!FUP_MORE...]

i just use them big packs of gel pens, super fine sharpies, and the uni-ball pens tht run really smoothly

[element503]

once i saw an ad for montana gold blackbook markers. not sure where to go but try this montana-paint.com (http://www.montana-paint.com)

[x_influenced]

yo...exactly what ar eu trying to do...??cuz prismas are good for blending...and reagular coloring...well i think prismas are good all around...even for outlining...i used to use decos...but since someone told me about prismas....ive been using thems since..and i want to try to copics and Ad's...but I dont see whats wrong with sharpies...cuz when i want to color somehthing black or outline...i normally use sharpies...and they dont bleed through...prismas bleed more then sharpies do...

[razethekids]

if your worried about bleeding, just put a scrap sheet underneath the page your doing. prismas are the best, they blend easy and layer nice.

[joust]

i stick to permopaques. thanks :-D

[MASH ONE]

yo those AD markers bleed like fuck.i use them once and went over like 2 pages.i now use a piece of thick paper underneath and it works well.also AD's aren't good for blending with other colors.they'rw too waterry

[Havoc411]

pilot V7 rolling ball, that and a marvy le plume double ended marker. i dont like to use color in my books.

[/*BlItZ*\]

i really like decos, but they are expensive, the only time i get them is when micheal's has a coupon in the sunday paper for "so- so percent off anythig"...one thing i got into using is mechanical pecils and the colored leads for them...its pretty cool

[Havoc411]

they make colored lead for mechanical pencils!?!?! since when!

[DjTerrestrialConcept]

Originally posted by Reo@May 3 2004, 10:23 PM
yeah yeah... i don't suggest sharpies simply becuase they bleed worse than a 12 year old having her period fo the first time. if you want to get a nice thick black line for a cheap cost i highly suggest using any sort of thin felt-tip pen. felt-tips get a sick line as well as no bleeding. as for colour? you can't beat a nice marker set, but everyone knows how dirty expensive they are...my recomendations? use pencil crayons. they work really well, espescially if you're not really macking up some proffesional pieces but want to test out some styles.
very vivid first couple of sentences :blink:

[dcite]

Originally posted by joust@Oct 31 2004, 02:36 PM
AAAHHHH NNOOOOOO YOU GUYS AND GALS DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT. hands down best markers ever are permopaques their opaque as shit, the colors dont bleed like thoes shitty prismas do, and they dont go through your paper, just amazing color quality. about $2 each, come in some metallics as well.
any info?
please

[RookieX412]

...im good as hell with prisma's because of school, but i like to use Permapaques in my b-book...


...of course another new page...damn me...

[ANTIC]

y the hell is everyone complaining about markers bleeding through? if it bleeds through then just take 1 or 2 pieces of scrap paper and put the under the page....simple as that

[Kayone707]

Originally posted by ANTIC@Nov 12 2004, 01:01 PM
y the hell is everyone complaining about markers bleeding through? if it bleeds through then just take 1 or 2 pieces of scrap paper and put the under the page....simple as that
its not just because they bleed through.. they Spread out alot also...

[Kayone707]

Originally posted by Havoc411@Nov 10 2004, 09:11 PM
they make colored lead for mechanical pencils!?!?! since when!
hahahahaa :lol: :lol: :lol: some funny shit

[sink]

are there any good markers that dont bleed when the paper they wrote on gets wet most of these seem water soluble

[DOUK or DIE]

i have a gallon bag of various sharpies,sharpie paints, and sharpie poster paints , Zig paint markers, AD markers(sick colors & quick fills) fine point sharpies, random prismas, chartpaks, the German TOUCH TWin TIped markers which are in my mind the best theres a color list of like 300 colors a little pricey though

[Car2nist]

please tell me you didnt pay for it all :X

[KAST]

Hey if ure lookin for a good ass b-book marker try this shit.Its called COLORIFIC GEL PENS.That shit may sound gay but try it.This shit dont bleed or go through pages.Its water based,writes smooth,sick ass overlaping effects,and looks hella wet afer it drys(within seconds).Its about 5.50$ in San Leandro but can easly be racked.It comes in packs of eight,eight colors,and in a purple box.Get these at Rite Aid,longs,walgreens ect...get some then lemme know wut you think.











************************
510-Dublin-Fuck da 5-0

[Sampson]

Im sure nobody uses dip pens but they have always been the best for spreading ink. You can get some pretty thick tips for them two (half inch). Fuck what am i talking about, i dont think i would use them for making writtings. But they are ment for caligraphy.

Im done, ill shut up.

[CaSoNe]

prisma colored pencils are pretty dope

[SHift]

prismas sound cool so i might get the 24 or 48 pack on eBay

[urapangit]

use everything here except the magnums....
http://g.myspace.com/00040/64/10/40270146_l.jpg

["awesome"ONE]

I just use Prismas and pencil usually, most of the time my scketches are just in black and white anyway, sometimes i'll go back and color them depending on how I feel. I've heard of alot of people using alot of paint pens for blackbooks though so maybe i'll try that later on, I don't know.

[casperFT]

have any of you tried the copic markers??? liquid crack is getting them soon and i wanna get some but i dont wanna waste my money so if they suck lemme know please oh and does anyone know where to get the montana gold set???

[the_uniBOMBER]

Sorry capser, forgot to mention. I have tried them. I find them to be the same as prismas, but that's only because I only tried one marker. They may be able to fade better. However the ability to hook the markers up to an airbrush thing is cool.

[Alio]

sharipies and little cheap markers from K-Mart work fine for me...!!

[casperFT]

ya the airbrush thing is cool but the montana gold colors are badass like they have nice shades of green......i like green

[the_uniBOMBER]

Originally posted by casperFT@Feb 28 2005, 12:50 AM
ya the airbrush thing is cool but the montana gold colors are badass like they have nice shades of green......i like green
Who doesn't my friend, who doesn't?

[{MaD MIzE}]

I use crayola super tip 50 pack assorted colors.

[jape-the-nape]

i just bbuy jumbo markers from cheapie stores they neva leek and they dont even have a brand it just says marker on the side lol

[Bass~choker]

i use prismacolor markers and im gona go rack some prismacolor color penciles and see if there any good

[->toNE*]

currys is a nice art shop, for all u toronto cats

[anarchyshok]

prismas are the best in my opinion but i racked some sharpies and they are good to but the prismas have double sided ends one fat one fine so its good for bbooks

[casperFT]

Originally posted by the_uniBOMBER+Feb 28 2005, 12:53 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (the_uniBOMBER @ Feb 28 2005, 12:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-casperFT@Feb 28 2005, 12:50 AM
ya the airbrush thing is cool but the montana gold colors are badass like they have nice shades of green......i like green
Who doesn't my friend, who doesn't? [/b][/quote]
so you are also a green fan huh??? nice

[the_uniBOMBER]

http://img231.exs.cx/img231/6320/monmwtneuejuhgs5pp.jpg

All about Kacao77's glow green.

[DephOne]

Originally posted by the_uniBOMBER@Mar 1 2005, 12:22 AM
http://img231.exs.cx/img231/6320/monmwtneuejuhgs5pp.jpg


ooooh bates pink

[casperFT]

Originally posted by the_uniBOMBER@Mar 1 2005, 12:22 AM
http://img231.exs.cx/img231/6320/monmwtneuejuhgs5pp.jpg

All about Kacao77's glow green.
finally someone who appreciates the color as much as me..........damn i want those montana copics

[laz'e]

i just use this fat permanent marker i brought

[Silvar]

wow. how very informative.

for those of you who have been around the tools and tips section in the last half hour, you will know that i think laze is a fuckin idiot / post whore.

feelin the green man.

i use an assortment, i got these funky fine liners that u can rub out with the eraser on the cap, they're pretty sweet, but usually im using these weird brush markers... its like using a paintbrush, thats how easy they move across the page. i think berol make 'em. (yeah yeah i know its a berol but hey, it works.) generally tho i prefer to sketch out with any good pen i find, especially biros. call it lame if u want but i found a good one at a work training course so jacked that and sketched til the ink ran out.

oh yeah, laze is a fuckin idiot. jus thought i'd repeat it.

["awesome"ONE]

I've said this before I think, but I always use decos for blackbooks, they're nice and bold.

[MitNGEK]

i use prisma colors they work good in black books

[westcoastbomber]

in black books i usually just use Decos

[Crack Killz]

I use normal Paintmarkers you get at your local staples store...They kick ass...and dont go through the pages....if you dont press down REAL HARD...

[MitNGEK]

are there any other good black book mRKERS BESIDE SHARPIES AND PRISMA CLORS

[joker00]

well i use these paper mate marker things for sketeches i mean it gets the job dun but the fuckin tip is mad small but its crazy 4 close corners and sharper turns but hey they as good as wut u guyz is sayin but they r CHEAP! (***or free is u rack them****)

[Crack Killz]

Deco Paint Markers. Are what you use when sketch on a black book. But if you're gonna catch normal tags on them, use like Pilots .

[casperFT]

i wanna get copics but they are expensive......im poor :(

[MitNGEK]

decp work pretty god but there paint

[kronik]

i use decos those shits come out clean

[Havoc411]

i use decos for all my markse needs. stickers, blackbook needs, and event some shit in the streets. decos are great all around markers. they bleed through paper though and at first the nibs are hard and the lines arent as clean

[Remo~]

decos are hella tight and hella cheap :D thats all i use ...and sometimes prismas...but i stick with decos

[211_24-7]

these are only my Black book supply's...

Blow pens in the backround.. the whole set..

the best Blending markers i use. second to prismas

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/kaloe5/mymarkers.jpg

[Kronone]

nice, i like those supplies, lol i use deco colors, they bleed through the page, but they look amazing...TIP: put a scrap peice of paper so that if it bleeds through, it goes on the crappy paper instead of your blackbook page...

http://img2.uploadimages.net/thumbs/tn_191578ATC_STENCIL2.JPG (http://img2.uploadimages.net/show.php?img=191578ATC_STENCIL2.JPG)

[Crack Killz]

awwwwwwwwwww... Everyone on BombingScience likes Deco Markers.

[Kronone]

thats kuz they kick asses and shit like that

[kronik]

whats rong with them?

[TRAP uGs]

just use sharpie paint

[sika_2002]

we dont get decos in the uk so i use brush felt pens, a fineliners. sharpies r also pretty kool for using

[Hack.]

Originally posted by dluxd0cs1k@May 5 2004, 05:10 PM
damn... :angry: .... what the fuck is up with all you k1dS that be buying your shit at the store... ever heard of coping your shit....??? <_< also...other markers that are opaque like deco markers are "painters" you can get them at Aaron Brothers or Michaels or Joan's.... most likely to be in the marker section next to the deco or where they have the markers that shake. They are exactly like deco's except without the whole runing thru the page problem.
well see..
i wanna have a future.
im not some kid.
im an adult, and am charged under the criminal code as such.
so then explain to me how saving a few bucks and racking shit is worth losing my bondability and the potential to gain future employment.

i guess if you want to do manual labour for the rest of your life racking is fine.
dont get me wrong i racked nuff stuff as a juvi but with time comes age and responsibility.

to all those people like yourself who say graff is about racking, well it aint.graff is about gettin up and representing properly.


as for my blackbook arsenal
Trias
Copics
Prisma's
Gel pens
Decos (i also mix custom deco colors just to be different)
Painters
Brush tip azn calligraphy pens
and my dirty rot ring mechanical pencil

all paid for. :D




remember karma is cyclical.it might not get you tomorrow or the next day but everything comes around.

[jd07]

i got a binch of prismas and i use a white out pen for white

[nerdx]

prismas, but they are damn expensive. i wait for them to come on sale here.
yeah, im not into racking.

[tomafornia]

hmmm i know they work, but why is everyone so obsessed with markers?...does anyone just use acrylic paints, much, much cheaper although i guess its a pain in the ass..

[nerdx]

just a little pain in the ass.

[Hektik-J]

My markers.:
letraset promarkers.
letraset tria pantones.
touch twin markers.
kurecolor graphics markers.
OTR paintliners.
Zig paint markers.
gel pens.
loadsa cheap shitty markers for school. like berol etc.
oh and my favourites.
the bic byros. (dunno how to spell it)

[chas]

for outlines i use ultra fine point sharpies those work well

[HYPE]

THE ABSOLUTE BEST ARE PRISMACOLORS BECAUSE THEY NEVER BLEED AND HAVE AWSOME VARIETY OF COLORS. THEY MIGHT SEEM EXPENSIVE BUT JUST STICK 7 IN EACH POCKET AND BUY A RAG FOR 90 CENTS

[BRAINE]

wow. you're cool.

[cord]

i just use the black bic biros mainly and pencils man....

whats up with all these fancy ass pens???

[CaM-ONER]

i use pencil in my book and sometimes i use markers but never in my book i always use pencil if i need color i go steal me the biggest box of prism colored pencils out there so far i got a 48 box its good

[Wunce]

Originally posted by MitNGEK@Mar 29 2005, 09:51 PM
are there any other good black book mRKERS BESIDE SHARPIES AND PRISMA CLORS
COPIC FUKN KILL PRISMA MARKERS WEN IT CUMES DOWN TO BLACK BOOKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Peace

[Crimeske]

decos are my favorite only problem is im left handed and it smears all over my hand. which sucks dick. i like to use sharpies and prismas cuz they dont smear.

[markingz.]

i'm left handed too and that' happened to me alot with decos also. Then I started using prismas which work pretty good. :)


copics look nice but i can't afford that stuff

[FLA BOMBA]

OTR makes blackbook markers. You can usally can buy them in the shop.
But right now they are sold out. But I've used alot of different markers and these are the best for sure. They come in a pack of 10. They come in Orange,red,Blue,Light Blue,Green,Light Green,Silver,Black,Yellow,and White.
They are awesome.

[Hektik-J]

i got some of them. the otr paintliners right?? yeh i got em off ebay. theyre good.

[sika_2002]

haha hektik, bic biros are sweet for sketching with

[Hektik-J]

hell yeah.. theyre the best. :P

[markingz.]

I'll have ta check em out

[sky1]

I personally like Deco's but sometimes they are messy.

[segway]

sharpies are so incredibly underrated for blackbooks, its easy as shit to blend with them

[sika_2002]

i htink you can only get bic biros in the uk, im not to sure. theyre nice pens to sketch with

[Scene*]

i got these markers from my sister in law and there called touch markers they are pretty good to color with

[CaM-ONER]

touches r good but i like either paint markers the thin calligraphy onez or i jus use prism colored pencils which is good


i steal all my stuff hahahahahahaha

[|Fresh|*]

I want some site that i cant find with google, so i want this sites:
-touch
-sakura
can someone help me? thanks

[markingz.]

i remember a while ago i used these artwin markers, they were alright but they ran out fast as heck

wait fresh do you want the exact sites, if so I think you can just type in sakurapaint stick on google and it will give you there main site. I cant really remeber butI think one is in japanese or something but the actuall site is in english. They have all the sakura products and their descriptions but I dont think you can buy em off there they just give you dealers.

[nerdx]

im into prismas. they are pretty nice. but what can i do for highlights, like white highlights over colors?
i got a zig white marker, but it doesnt really work too well, it just turns into a lighter shade of whatever you are going over.

[|Fresh|*]

http://www.gellyroll.com/ i found this site...

[sika_2002]

can anybody tell me where to get decos, i live in the uk. i looked in staples but they dont sell them. any1 know a website where i can get them

[|Fresh|*]

http://www.faber-castell.de/docs/index2.as...=21364&m5=14911 (http://www.faber-castell.de/docs/index2.asp?id=14911&domid=1010&sp=E&addlastid=&m1=10329&m2=10333&m3=19281&m4=21364&m5=14911) how about these?

[|Fresh|*]

I just find some sites...
Touch (http://www.touchmarker.net/)
Copic (http://www.copicmarker.com/)
Sakura (http://www.gellyroll.com/)
Prisma colors (http://www.prismacolor.com/)

[sec]

I live in europe and the TOUCH markers are the shit down here, perfect for sketchin', actually specially made for it. they have nice colors, a fat and a fine side they'r also good for fadings. you can order 'em at www.graffitishop.nl . i don't know if they ship to the US though. (also see http://www.graffiti-shop.nl/catalog/index....acturers_id=13) (http://www.graffiti-shop.nl/catalog/index.php?manufacturers_id=13)) B)

[|Fresh|*]

I live in europe too and i can get touch markers from the site of molotow... but buy only one touch marker i can get from other sites... they used touch markers in whrite4gold? hhmmm

[Exon2]

yea my sharpies dont blend very well
it really sucks
im deciding whether to go with
prismas
or something paint
like permapaques
or decos
i want somethin that needs to be able to blend
i hear prismas are the shit

[GRSKL]

I use some permapaque's for simple sketches and shit, but when it comes to coloring pieces, I draw an outline with a black permapaque, then fuck with fills and colors in Adobe Photoshop. You can try all kinds of different shit with it, and you can sample the same colors you got availible with spray paint in real life, so the colors will match better than markers.

Then you can print the shit out and bring it with you, and if you get caught I guess you could say you aren't a writer, you printed the shit off the internet and you were trying to copy it or some shit.

[BRAINE]

permapaques eat up the paper if you try to do fills with them.
i mostly use free range

[good]

prismacolor to me is the best blackbook marker i got some from a freind and i liked um ai wanna buy some but there so dam expensive...

[dcite]

Originally posted by QUO@May 9 2004, 12:08 PM
prisma'a are already sick on blackbook material...never use shapries (obviously) cuz they bleed throught thepage...if your gonna top off ur work with lining i suggest the .5 or .7 pilot.
i dont understand why people say this; sharpies bleed like half as much compared to markers like chartpaks or prismas. thats why prismas are so nice; they bleed to the point where they blend together so that you dont get visible stroke marks. sharpies work fine, if you can move your hand quickly; when you stay in one place for too long with a sharpie, well thats when you start to get bleeding problems. :ph34r:

[(¯“·.¸_/Æ\_¸.·â€? Â]

chartpaks bleed like crazy...more then sharpies.

Best pens to use for outlines are Microns, brought at Micheals or ur local art store... o-O they wont bleed if u go over then with prismas, or chartpaks

[SaintBMD]

Maybe if you guys have an AC MOORE around hit that shit up. NO sencsers, no camera or anything. Im only 15 no job or anything so i just go there and fill up on Panity markers or Deco Color. The colors are pretty solid but i mean if your just workin on some thowies or something they're great. If you're working on peices I dont know what to tell you i had the same question and got the same answer from everyone..... Get Prisma Double ended markers. :)

[Sluts_r_us]

yeah i racked a bunch of prismas from a.c.moore...

[BRAINE]

zig twin tip markers are tight for outlines and shit. never bleed. i like them better than micron, but theyre all markers so who cares.

[st3ve-ES]

i'm loving these zig 'writer' colored markers I aquired from michaels.

they don't seep through my books pages like the prismas I aquired either.

[EMONIAH]

i also like when i aquire a new word into my vocabulary such a "aquire" and i use it muntiple times during speech.

[Reckin Towns Fully]

I just use sharpies or crappy roseart markers that you can get 50 for 8 dollars
just put a piece of crappy paper under the page your coloring and it will bleed 2 crappy paper and leave the next one without dots of leftover color

[Reckin Towns Fully]

http://www.paulalvord.com/design/images/portfolio/clrvw_port.jpg
or you can just drain the ink from these and you them as color for home made markers add Proffesional white paint (not crayola) and alchol to make it permanent.

[To.The.Beat]

Connecter pens.

http://www.artmaterials.com.au/images/fab_conect_metal.jpg

They're fun!

http://www.finkinc.com.au/shop/image.php?productid=16202

http://www.artmaterials.com.au/images/kids_conect.jpg

They come in jumbo too!

http://www.artmaterials.com.au/images/fab_post_12.jpg

[Proper]

Proper uses...

PrismaColors.
Paint Markers Craft Etc.
Black Sharpies.
Some Testors.
And Black Calligraphy pens.

[xDISMALx]

i like
permapaques
[dont bleed through the page and nice paint colors]
and decos

[MuramZA]

Indeed, Sakura Permapaque markers are dope. Shin-Han Touch markers are good too, they bleed through the paper though.

[strife-306]

if you need a cheap way to black book use crayola gel markers ... i know i know (CRAYOLA fucking sucks and its true, but in this case) they give you a glossy finish they work almost like paint markers but dry alot faster ...... i still use fine point paint markers they the shit for sketching

[settybomb]

whats a good white to highlight pieces with?
Ive tried paint markers, pentels, all sorts of shit, and im just looking to get that nice Gleaming affect frommy marker.
And the fills i use are always prismas, i have like, 96 prismas. not one good white marker.

[step one]

"Dont buy prismas, rack em'"

shit everywhere near me has em in the back of the store so i cant....fucking michaels...but i rack evrything i can though that they do have, studio marks and paint pens...bastards

[step one]

Originally posted by settybomb@May 3 2006, 09:05 AM
whats a good white to highlight pieces with?
Ive tried paint markers, pentels, all sorts of shit, and im just looking to get that nice Gleaming affect frommy marker.
And the fills i use are always prismas, i have like, 96 prismas. not one good white marker.
Invest in an airbrush man, its the best way for effects like that

[settybomb]

nahh im trying to think of how i can explain this. I just want like, a good white marker that will paint over prisma.

[some guy from NCI...]

I dont think they exist in ink marker form (If that's what you mean). I just use tip-x, The kind that's in a pen.

[Hektik-J]

hahaha. white gel pen. works easy. every time.

[Matyr]

letraset pantones and prismas are sick. Pantones are really good cus you dont have to worry about going over your lines twice. but i have trouble with prismas anyone have some tips

[Royal47]

touch twin markers seem to be the best..
i have OTR pack of 20 bb markers but they arent that good..

check them out online here: Graffitishop - OTR and Touch Twin (http://www.graffitishop.it/home.asp?type=link&referrer_Id=769)

you can get them for pretty good prices....especially if you live in europe..

[bomberman]

decos is wut ive been using for my blackbookz, they dont blead if the pages arent thin.. :D

[Matyr]

fuck, blackbooks are over-rated you should just use non-bleed paper pads that way you have nothing to worry bout

[lance uppercut]

my boy matyr knowing what's up, motha fuckin peices of paper bitches!

[LTD*LimiTeD]

ok i didnt want to start a topic over this so im asking here.
ive been using shitty sharpies for a while now and they piss me off. im so limited by the colors and they dont blend at all. im looking into getting prismacolor markers but at my local craft store and they were extremely expensive ($22 for a 6 pack and $42 for a 12 pack). so does anyone know a store online that has them for cheap. i found this store but it looks so ghetto.
http://www.discountart.com/store/prismacolormarkers.html
thanks for any responses

[Attican]

That sight looks fine to me. Just make sure you read all the license agreements before you click "yes."

[Hater-AiD~>]

anybody know how to use the prisma clear blender correctly..i just tried to work on a piece with it and fucked it up

[T R E O]

Originally posted by LTD*LimiTeD@May 6 2006, 05:34 PM
ok i didnt want to start a topic over this so im asking here.
ive been using shitty sharpies for a while now and they piss me off. im so limited by the colors and they dont blend at all. im looking into getting prismacolor markers but at my local craft store and they were extremely expensive ($22 for a 6 pack and $42 for a 12 pack). so does anyone know a store online that has them for cheap. i found this store but it looks so ghetto.
http://www.discountart.com/store/prismacolormarkers.html
thanks for any responses
RACKKK!lol
ive racked $65 worth of prisma colors.
im also not sure in using the blender.

[Hater-AiD~>]

ive racked like $15 of prismas, haha
i got 2 today and that includes a navy blue and the clearblender...but i dunno who to use it right

[streak!]

prismas are real good, theyre better than pencils and sharpies

[kill]

sum good black book markers are streakers and otrs filled with garvey
krink mops are good too

[syrup2]

i just stay with primsas u can rack them helluvatheeasy a office depo also black sharpie and white decos make cool throwies

[-s|N-]

Originally posted by Swollen Member@May 3 2004, 09:35 PM
Prismas are nice, but are expensive if you can't them. I go with Copics. They don't bleed like the Prismas usually do in my blackbook.
Don't listen to this guy. Prismas are cheaper than copics and don't bleed as much.

[KONG]

decocolor paint markers, medium tip.

if you have a michael's i highly suggest them because they are easy to cop. they work well on books and if you arn't in the mood to carry around your OTR, they'll do the job. also, nice color choices.

[Fluffy Bunnies]

I emailed the copic marker site and I said I formed an anime club and I said if they can donate some markers ... I acted reeeaaal nice so they think I am a teacher or sumthing... so maybe I will get some free markers!

all I need em for is sketching... who the hell would go bombing with those... haha!


BTW, when I use sharpies in my blackbook, I put a safety paper in the back of the page I am coloring on so it won't go on the other pages. saftey first kids!

[Bare0ne]

Twin touch are good id say first proper markers iv got they have proved to be quite decent although some are runin out already

[jfks brain]

i got some of those twin touch markers and there not that good, i have heard that they are the best over seas(crazy fucking euros) , but ther to dark and rich, if thats what your looking for then buy twin touch markers . this has been said several*** times in the last 16 pages but prismas are ace markers, and if your looking for cheap sets go to ebay

any one ever use a marker called "design markers" any good??

[field marshal]

every thing you need , cheap too

Artarama (http://www.jerrysartarama.com/discount-art-supplies/online/680/art-supplies/3)

[esso-two]

if its just for sketching get waterbased markers not alchohol based cos they leave streaks so all ur pieces look like throwups fills unless you colour the fuck out of ur paper

[|Fresh|*]

someone know if prismacolors sell in europe their markers? thanks

[|Fresh|*]

someone know if prismacolors sell in europe their markers? thanks

[FEST!]

I'd say Deco most def. I've seen some of u all say that they bleed through.....what markers dont? Prismas are expensive as hell...if ur into buying ur shit. It all depends.

[-kosr-]

Originally posted by esso-two@Aug 20 2006, 09:32 AM
if its just for sketching get waterbased markers not alchohol based cos they leave streaks so all ur pieces look like throwups fills unless you colour the fuck out of ur paper
i use letra-set markers, theyre alchohol based and couldnt have a smoother fill, leaves no streaks unless you do a line, then wait 10 minutes and do another.

[freakshow]

does anyone know where i can get letraset tria refils? it says on the back of the box that they are refillable but i havnt been able to find em anywhere