Close Encounters With 5-0.

[Ketamine]

I'm not sure if theres a thread about this, I'm sorry if there is, but I looked.

Ever get chased by the pigs? Or threatened or searched or whatever? Tell your stories here.

[/*BlItZ*\]

not really, one pulled up so i walked away, end of story

[pSYKAOz]

too often.

[Atic]

I get caught all the time. I always run but they end up finding me.

[Ketamine]

About being caught by cops, if you ahve time to read it:

WHAT A POLICEMAN CAN MAKE YOU DO

What a Law Enforcement Officer (LEO) can demand of a citizen depends heavily on the context of the order. Most generally, police are allowed by the courts to act as any reasonable private citizen would. They may ask questions, look through windows that they happen to be near, walk or drive in public areas, etc. Without a warrant or any suspicion of illegal activity, they are allowed to interact with other citizens, but they have a limited amount of authority to demand compliance, search, or detain people or things.

In highly volatile or dangerous situations, a LEO's authority to require compliance is much higher than in non-threatening contexts. The Supreme Court has ruled (with Terry v. Ohio being one of the primary cases) that the police are allowed to protect themselves from potentially dangerous people or situations. Under the umbrella of "concern for safety" or "search for weapons" the police have wide lattitude to do what they want and to order citizens to comply with their demands.

The Terry v. Ohio case created the "weapons search", "terry search", or "terry pat" exception to the 4th Amendment 'probable cause requirement' for searches. The court ruled that if a police officer "[has] reasonable cause to believe that [someone] might be armed" they can require they submit to a quick patdown. What this has meant is that it is now standard practice to pat down anyone that a LEO wants to, without the need for arrest, probable cause, or even suspicion of a crime.

Many police use weapons pats as a way to intimidate and harass citizens, since it is a power the courts have allowed them to use with little justification. Often a LEO will find something during their patdown which is clearly not a weapon which they would like to see, but this is beyond their Court-approved authority ( see below ).

Also under the 'concern for safety' umbrella, police are given wide latitude by courts to ask individuals to comply with simple non-intrusive commands such as "stand over there" or "wait here for a moment", but the line between order and request becomes very fuzzy when an officer starts telling people where to go unless the situation is volatile / dangerous. There are many stories of two (or more) individuals confronted by police ( one example ) whom the police intentionally separate to try to intimidate or to compare stories. This is generally a 'fishing' maneuver which would not fall under the 'concern for safety' umbrella. ( see below )

During a stop for a traffic violation, police have the power to demand a proper driver's license and other state-required documentation (registration, insurance). In most [ed-all?] states they also have the power to demand sobriety tests [ed - do they need reasonable suspicion of intoxication ?]. The courts have also given police the power to frisk a driver based on the Terry v. Ohio decision (the police should have some reason to think there is danger) and some decisions have even allowed an officer (with no suspicion or cause) to search the area around the driver's seat. [ed-citation for this?]

When a private, law abiding citizen encounters police, the amount of intrusion a Law Enforcement Officer is allowed to demand is limited. Some areas have laws against "disobeying a police officer" or "obstructing an officer from their duties", but the bounds of what officers can reasonably require someone not suspected of any other criminal activity in a peaceful situation have not been clearly drawn by the courts. If someone interferes with a police officer engaged in an arrest or investigation, police tend to have very little patience and will quickly threaten or affect detainment or arrest. Generally, courts give police wide latitude in executing their duties and disobeying a "reasonable" direct order from an officer could be prosecuted in most jurisdictions.

As an encounter proceeds, the police gather data that they can use to formulate 'reasonable, articulable suspicion' or (stronger) 'probable cause' that the individual has contraband or is involved in a crime. As the level of suspicion rises, so does the LEO's authority to intrude into a person's affairs. Once the level rises to 'probable cause' to believe that there is contraband in a vehicle, the Supreme Court has made some very disturbing decisions allowing the police broad power to search in certain cases, including the power to search closed containers without a warrant. (see United States v. Ross, 456 U.S. 798 (1982) )

In a recent decision (Wyoming v. Houghton, April 1999), the Supreme Court ruled that even passengers' belongings, if left in the car, may be searched thoroughly if the driver is suspected of a crime.

In most states, you are not required to identify yourself or show the police your ID (unless you are in a vehicle). We have been unable to confirm that in Nevada that police try to charge people with obstruction of justice for people who refuse to identify themselves to police. However, if you choose to identify yourself, you are required to tell the truth. It is a crime to lie to federal police agents and it is a crime to give false identification to police in many areas [ed- find a cite for this?].

The Supreme Court has said: "A brief stop of a suspicious individual, in order to determine his identity or to maintain the status quo momentarily while obtaining more information, may be most reasonable in light of the facts known to the officer at the time." Adams v. Williams, 407 U.S. 143, 146 (1972).

If you want to avoid long and unpleasant interactions with police, do not give them any reasons to suspect you of criminal activity. Courteously decline to participate in 'fishing expiditions' or any other actions you do not wish to perform.

Police may search you 'incident to arrest': after or while arresting someone, police are allowed to search the body of the person being arrested. Recent decisions by the Supreme Court have also allowed the police to do exhaustive searches of any vehicle the arrestee was in and any containers therein. The Supreme Court held "that the police may examine the contents of any open or closed container found within the passenger compartment, 'for if the passenger compartment is within the reach of the arrestee, so will containers in it be within his reach.'" 453 U.S., at 460 (footnote omitted). See also Michigan v. Summers, 452 U.S. 692, 702 (1981).

In Pennsylvania v. Mimms, 434 U.S. 106 (1977), the Supreme Court "held that police Officers may order persons out of [463 U.S. 1032, 1048] an automobile during a stop for a traffic violation, and may frisk those persons for weapons if there is a reasonable belief that they are armed and dangerous."



WHAT A POLICEMAN CAN NOT MAKE YOU DO

Police are not allowed to frisk for anything except weapons. If, during a weapons pat, an officer discovers something 'suspicious' you don't have to show it to them.

Although the police have been given a lot of leeway to 'check for weapons', the Supreme Court has ruled (in the key decision Minnesota v Dickerson, 1993) that a weapons search may not be used as a pretext for a more general search. In Minnesota v Dickerson, a man was stopped coming out of a 'notorious crack house' and was patted down in a 'Terry Stop'. The officer noticed something in the man's pocket which he said 'felt to be a lump of crack cocaine in cellophane'. He reached in the defendant's pocket and found some crack-cocaine. The Supreme Court ruled that in order to determine whether the item was crack or not required a further, unwarranted search was necessary which was not acceptable by 4th Amendment standards.


Police are not allowed to search everyone (see Ybarra v. Illinois, 444 U.S. 85 (1979). In Ybarra v. Illinois, a man was patted down in a bar where the police were arresting a bar owner for selling heroin. An officer identified "a cigarette pack with objects in it" in the man's pocket during the pat down and decided to search Ybarra. The High Court ruled that the officer overstepped his authority by searching everyone in the bar, even though they had a warrant to arrest the bartender and search the bar for evidence of drug sales.

A common situation where police attempt to search many individuals without probable cause is a raided party. Sometimes police tell people to 'empty your pockets' or they pat everyone down as they are leaving or they target a few people based on appearance for a full blown search. Most raids on parties are done without a judge-issued warrant and are based on noise complaints, city ordainances about event sizes, etc. In these cases, most searches will be citizens 'voluntarily' complying with requests except in the case of violence, extreme intoxication, or obvious criminal activity. Be polite and considerate of the difficult job the LEO's have, but do not consent to any warrantless search and do not offer information to the police regarding any criminal activity they suspect you of.



HOW TO SAY NO

So, when a policeman says "Empty your pockets for me?" or "Why don't you step over here for a moment?" What does a reasonable, law abiding citizen say if s/he doesn't want to? Unfortunately there may be no simple answer to this. Because of the nature of most police-citizen interactions, tensions can be high and LEO's may interpret any dissent as hostility or 'suspicious behaviour'.

Stay Calm. Speak calmly and slowly and don't be surprised if the officer becomes irritated, angry, or beligerent. Move slowly.
Ask Questions. One way to Say No is to ask questions in return: "Is that a request or an order?" "Am I under arrest?" "Am I free to go?" "Why do you want me to *whatever*?" "Am I a suspect in a crime?"
Say No. Another way to Say No is to very clearly say no: "No, I would like to leave." "No, I do not consent to any warrantless searches." "You do not have my permission to search me / my car / my belongings."
Defuse Tensions. Do everything you can to defuse the tensions and seem peaceful. If an LEO thinks you might be dangerous, the courts have ruled that they have a greater authority to force you to comply.
Do not Resist. Do not Argue with a Cop. Do not Touch a cop. Don't Run. Don't complain or threaten an officer legally.
Comply when Required. Knowing when you are required to comply can be difficult (see What You Must Do and What You Don't Have to Do ) The moment an LEO pulls a gun, do what they say. If they make you do something through force, your Constitutional Rights are not as important as staying healthy and alive. You can challenge the arrest in court if your rights are violated.
Give the Cop a Break. Remember that police have a very difficult job to do and most cops are doing their best to try to keep their communities safe. When it comes to dealing with unusual or strange individuals or confronting drug issues, officers (and many people in the world) make some bad snap judgements. But most cops think of themselves as the Good Guys, so try to let em know you're on their side.
Ask for a Lawyer. As soon as its clear you will be arrested, ask for a lawyer and then keep quiet. Police will try to get you to talk. Don't.

[shyone]

.....who hasn't!?

[**MATEO**]

yea me and my friends went bombing over neer downtown and theres a couple old factories there so we went and found a nasty spot but we had to do it fast cuz it was at sundown and we had to get home before dark cuz in out town the cerfew is when it gets dark so we hit a couple spots and we heard footsteps comin closer so we gathered all the paint and got outta there but they had bikes and i didnt so i was fucked so i ran as fast as i could but when i slowed down to rest it happened to be sum guys we knew from skool

[das1]

this one time me and my friend were bombin this trainbridge and were on the one side, and a cop rolls by underneith us and stops on the street, were like oh fuck, and just chill not tryin to be loud, the cop opens his door and puts one foot out and then just gets back in and drives off.
it was crazy we thought we whould have to run and that he had seen us, but lucky enought that he didnt. :D

[esaem]

yea me and my friends went bombing over neer downtown and theres a couple old factories there so we went and found a nasty spot but we had to do it fast cuz it was at sundown and we had to get home before dark cuz in out town the cerfew is when it gets dark so we hit a couple spots and we heard footsteps comin closer so we gathered all the paint and got outta there but they had bikes and i didnt so i was fucked so i ran as fast as i could but when i slowed down to rest it happened to be sum guys we knew from skool

Why is everyone so afriad of the fuckin police

[Dyser]

One time i was doing a throwup on the side of a highway and i got chased by a motorcycle cop....... i got away. Also another time me and this guy who writes Radeo from New Mexico were hiting this spot and a cop rolled up on us and we just ran and ended up hiding in a dumpster for a couple hours but i never got caught so fuck it.... and we came back later and finished are shit in the same night........

[mad]

one time me n my boys were in a sewer and we smoked a joint and then i was bombing the place and this cop shows up at the topp and hes like alrite every one of you come up the latter now and my boys like fuck you pig and since we have nothing better to do we were always in the sewer so we knew our way around.
so we were running down the sewer to the next opening and we all climbed out and out the cover back on



that was fun

[cuttingxedge]

im pretty smart with what spots i hit how i hit it and what time soo ive never really had any close encounters

[sika_2002]

Originally posted by shyone@Nov 24 2004, 02:21 PM
.....who hasn't!?
exactly

[**MATEO**]

i dont wanna get coaught i just started at this u can call me a toy and if i got coaught and the cops told my parents i wouldnt be leavin the house 4 ever

[Skore_One]

awww how cute/\/\

[Atic]

Originally posted by **MATEO**@Nov 24 2004, 07:19 PM
i dont wanna get coaught i just started at this u can call me a toy and if i got coaught and the cops told my parents i wouldnt be leavin the house 4 ever
Than just quit. Being a writer, you have to live with the fact that you will eventually get caught. And "if the cops told my parents"...lol conseqeunces will be alot worse than them notifying your parents.

[**MATEO**]

im serios

[M0De7]

I've been chased seriously by a cop only twice. Once was a while ago when I first started. I wanted to hit this truck in a field, and it was night so it was pretty chill. So I started hitting up, and before I could get to doing my outline, a cop car pulled into this parking lot and the cop came out towards us. So I just told my friend to start walking away, so we just went through this really large grass patch, and when I was out, he told me to stop, so I started running. He kept screaming at us to stop, and he let us know he was the police aswell. So I just ran and ran until I couldn't run anymore, and I just found my way home because I lived farely close. It was probably one of those most memorable things in my life that has ever happened. Whenever I have close calls now adays I flash back to that feeling I got when I knew he wanted to bust me. It was like a twisting feeling inside my stomache. I have quick feet, so I think 9 times out of 10 I would get away, but if I ever slipped, fuck.

Being chased by cops isn't fun at all, it's fuckin hectic, and I'd rather not have to worry about the police, but unfortunatly thats how it goes.

[dimeone]

ok one day me and my mate are bored we have a few maekrs the main road is sorta packed with people and its about 6 at night so we go fuck it lest just tag it up so where taggin then this guy runs over grabs me markers breaks em and rips out a badge im like FUCK

he goes hey i just got here na du fuckers are taggin up , im on vaction form sydney and i cant belive as soon as i step fo the trian fuck he goes he anit gonna take us down to the station cause his on holidays so he takes the markers and gave us a lecture

then walks into the whorehouse to get laied LOL :P

[fame]

man i run fast

[DNA]

damn, last tuesday i was going to hit a newspaper box at a bus stop that is was wait at for my mom to pick me up from and it was like 6:30(i live like 4 miles from my house), and it was dark, and as i was pulling out my marker this state patrol rolls up onto the hiway off ramp about 20 feet away and i m all putting the marker back real quick, and then he drives off. so just as i pull my marker out again, a county sheriff rolls up next to me, like 5 feet away, gives me a dirty look, and drives off.
im all like, whoah, i guess im just not ment to hit this spot.
true story.

[glue]

never really been chased.... usually they will pull into what i hit and ill run befor they see me. other times ill notice im being followed they will park accelorate past me and pull around look at me all that shit.
ive had a few chases though haha. i was in an alley visible from the street i finished up my homie started cops pull up my friend runs then i turn the corner and run into some guys yard ahaha.
this one time i was hitting trucks and shit and i had just done like a few heat paint tags and the cops pulled into the street i was just on so i booked it fast!
i get off the bus and am walking home a good 5 blocks and i casually hit this box taxi honks so i walk away hit a truck with like 5 tags on the back pannel then keep walking look back cops are there, so i keep walking and like a block away undercovers are parked on the other side of the street so i walkj over this hill cops pull up turn around slow down then leave!!!
the only shit that reaks me out is when you do somthing and look around and cops are right there but dont see you, i allways wonder if they see me or are just too lazy to bother.....

[cuttingxedge]

soo its about 8ish and im just walking home no biggie theres a nice bus shelter soo i start etching it real cashual like B) cause theres not alota heat round my hood all of a sudden a patrol car just rolls up and man DID I EVER BOOK IT
they didn't come close to catchingme i ran and i ran turned a corner hopped this huge fench and i was surpised i could even do it then ran into some backyard and hid behind the backyards shed.. as i was sitting there calming down and catching my breath i could here the family al in the kitchen talking in somalian it was prety funny soo i stayed quiete for about 10 minutes then just walked the rest of the way home as i was i could see cars patrolling the hood most likely looking for me
so i just took some sidestreets and hitched it home..

[**MATEO**]

yea u got a point i will eventually get caught and thye foun out a while ago .... but they woud beat me if a copper braught me home... but yea i was taggin this mailbox w/ a bigg as marker my freind gave me and this was like 7ish in the morin when i was walkin to skool so i tagg it and then rite when i put the cap on the marker a state trooper rolled around the corner i almost shit myself so i busted out a note from my GF and pretended like i was mailin it... i got off lucky :D

[**MATEO**]

yea glue tha same thing happend to me and my friends were where taggin this parking garage and then we left but then when we split up to go taggin sum of the other buildings in tha area but b4 we could we heard foot steps we all ran well i actually was tha only one runnin they had bikes so i ran for like a half mile and i remeberd i fergot my backback w/ all my cans so i told my boys to wait there as i get my bag so i was sneakin through the back way to the garage and then i ran into these guys from skool and they tell me there the ones that were makin the footsteps and they also told us a cop was on the other side of the wall startin up his cruiser ( police station neer by )... i like shit myself of enjoyment that that lazy motha fucka heard the sunds of the spray can but started the thing and left

[WhAyOnE!__]

so its around 730 its pretty dark alreadyme n my bud wreck went down to a bridge and we start bombing it and then we see sumbody coming so then we walk away and hide and we went back like 5 mins later and there was a cop car parked there for a long ass time so i tell my friend to get down slowly, he puts his shit in his bag and i stand up for a second to see if its gone then i see a flashlight lookin around n i was like "oh shit i cant get caught again" in my head so i juss booked it as fast as i can n my friend followed me and we ended up walkin threw this field going uphill damn those sharpass branches mangg :blink:

[scary dreams]

Some of you guys should really find friends to tell these stories to. :) I dunno just a thought.

[bruce]

Originally posted by DNA@Nov 24 2004, 10:28 PM
i live like 4 miles from my house
true story.
:blink:

[hitshit89]

iv had plenty of close calls and got chased a couple of times but not for graff

once i finished hittin up a door (huge ass marker covered the door wit a handstyle)
and wen i finished it right b4 i put the cap bak on one of those cop vans rolls by i was wit one of my boys so i started walkin fast but and turned da corner they didnt catch me.

da oda night i went bombin and i saw security on one side of the wall i was gonna hit (it was in a shoppin center) so i decided w/e and just hit it right wen i put the can in my pocket da security turned da corner i didnt get caught though :ph34r:

[denali]

Originally posted by esaem@Nov 24 2004, 03:45 PM
yea me and my friends went bombing over neer downtown and theres a couple old factories there so we went and found a nasty spot but we had to do it fast cuz it was at sundown and we had to get home before dark cuz in out town the cerfew is when it gets dark so we hit a couple spots and we heard footsteps comin closer so we gathered all the paint and got outta there but they had bikes and i didnt so i was fucked so i ran as fast as i could but when i slowed down to rest it happened to be sum guys we knew from skool

Why is everyone so afriad of the fuckin police
because they can arrest you and lock you up and fuck you over...........

[HEIST]

I Just got caught today but they didnt chase me one of my friends ratted me out, but if they would of tried to chase my ass i would of been gone theres too many alleys and the cops are way to freakin fat, some of my friends were runnin from the cops and the cop didnt even get out of his car their lazy as fuck

[MAST]

Originally posted by hitshit89@Dec 6 2004, 06:24 PM
iv had plenty of close calls and got chased a couple of times but not for graff
me too...3 times

[SiK]

I have never been caught or seen. I have had a random cop drive by but I always keep an ear out and play it low key as a mutha fucka. However, One of my friends was caught last spring. He broke into a trainyard in the next town over. He was putting together a outline on a silver e2e burner and a dog that was patrolling the lot started barking loud as shit. He started running but the dog chased him down. It had a firm grip on his wrist, but never broke the skin. 2 yard security guards showed up and started talkin shit to him and pushing him. They asked him wtf he was doing with all the paint and what he thought they should do with him. They pushed him around for awhile and then one of them broke his thumb on his good hand. It has healed since but he never could tell the police because he was there taggin in the first place. Not to mention the fuckers made off with his paint, digital camera, cell phone, and watch. Some rent-a-cops need to get there shit smashed.

[random victim]

i was tagging a ramp at my local and the 5 0 pulled up in the car park, (there twats they just harras you like fuck when they got nothin betta to do) he gets out and walks up to me, i chucked my marker and played it cool, he asked me why this paint was wet and i said i dont no i jus got here, but the was to fuckin close :huh:

[pSYKAOz]

lol sik u sound like u never paint much lol... neways your friend got unlucky... but played it dumb... sue those mofo rent a cops,,, so what he was painting???

they did assault n theft... plus they didnt call the cops wich goes against their job description... hed make alot of money sueing em plus its unlikely theyd nab him for graff

[infer one]

I was with a friend near a drugstore, and the building next to it has boarded up windows, so i climbed ontop of a dumpster and hit it up in a high spot, like 2 seconds after i got down a car pulls right next to the dumpster and the owner gets out, he looks at me and my friend and says" What the hell you doin over here" we said skatin', he just told us to get outa there.
That kinda shit happends all the time tho, its not an awsome story, 5o dont care that much if its only a marker, ive never had to run from a cop, citizens and store owners, but not cops, for painting. But to get out of suspiciouse situations I usually say im skating, its more of a cover than an activitie. The only bad thing bout it is that you can get fined for skating in the city, those fuckin' pigs always find a way to bust your ass.

[darkling_stalkr]

Originally posted by Ketamine@Nov 24 2004, 02:16 PM

HOW TO SAY NO

So, when a policeman says "Empty your pockets for me?" or "Why don't you step over here for a moment?" What does a reasonable, law abiding citizen say if s/he doesn't want to? Unfortunately there may be no simple answer to this. Because of the nature of most police-citizen interactions, tensions can be high and LEO's may interpret any dissent as hostility or 'suspicious behaviour'.

Stay Calm. Speak calmly and slowly and don't be surprised if the officer becomes irritated, angry, or beligerent. Move slowly.
Ask Questions. One way to Say No is to ask questions in return: "Is that a request or an order?" "Am I under arrest?" "Am I free to go?" "Why do you want me to *whatever*?" "Am I a suspect in a crime?"
Say No. Another way to Say No is to very clearly say no: "No, I would like to leave." "No, I do not consent to any warrantless searches." "You do not have my permission to search me / my car / my belongings."
Defuse Tensions. Do everything you can to defuse the tensions and seem peaceful. If an LEO thinks you might be dangerous, the courts have ruled that they have a greater authority to force you to comply.
Do not Resist. Do not Argue with a Cop. Do not Touch a cop. Don't Run. Don't complain or threaten an officer legally.
Comply when Required. Knowing when you are required to comply can be difficult (see What You Must Do and What You Don't Have to Do ) The moment an LEO pulls a gun, do what they say. If they make you do something through force, your Constitutional Rights are not as important as staying healthy and alive. You can challenge the arrest in court if your rights are violated.
Give the Cop a Break. Remember that police have a very difficult job to do and most cops are doing their best to try to keep their communities safe. When it comes to dealing with unusual or strange individuals or confronting drug issues, officers (and many people in the world) make some bad snap judgements. But most cops think of themselves as the Good Guys, so try to let em know you're on their side.
Ask for a Lawyer. As soon as its clear you will be arrested, ask for a lawyer and then keep quiet. Police will try to get you to talk. Don't.
"You do not have my permission to search me / my car / my belongings."
does this actually work? and could someone tell me if that article is the same for Canada.

[_____JEKLROKS_____]

This one bitch cop grabbed me and my boy Sage at 4 in the morning and let us go after she seen my school ID (all honor classes) and bought into my "going to my house for my mouthguard, yeah, we have practice tomarrow morning..." story...

[ESNED]

once i was walking down the street and a cop drove by boy was that close i had a sharpie on me and it was past my curfew.

[_____JEKLROKS_____]

Originally posted by ESNED@Dec 15 2004, 08:01 PM
close i had a sharpie on me and it was past my curfew.
Fuckin' toy...

[ESNED]

im not a toy... dont u ever ahve things like taht happen to you, my tag is good unlike yours......

haha

[cuttingxedge]

i came intoa close counter with a janitor today at this local mall theres this cracked out bathroom that is tagged to fuck soo i was hitting up the wall in the stall and the guy knocked on the stall and said "are you tagging" i calmy walked out and told him that i wasn't that tired and left..funniest thing ever

[_____JEKLROKS_____]

Originally posted by ESNED@Dec 15 2004, 08:11 PM
im not a toy... dont u ever ahve things like taht happen to you, my tag is good unlike yours......

haha
Ok, fuckin' punk ass bitch...

[Sicko]

This one night last fall I was tagging the bus stops in my neighbourhood. I got to this bus stop in front of a high school and looked around to make sure there wasnt anybody around. So after im done hitting it up I come out of the bus stop and suddenly theres this guy thats appeared out of no where. So i walk along in the sidewalk in his direction. When I get about 10 feet from him he suddenly tries to cut me off and like bear hug me, so I sprinted into him with my forearms at his face and bounced off of him and ran across the street through traffic. The guy screamed at me " I AM AN OFFICER OF THE LAW! STOP OR ILL SHOOT, STOP OR ILL SHOOT!" I never ran so fast in my life. Its weird how things work when your in a situation like that, everything just happened automatically. I never ran so fast in my life!

[_____JEKLROKS_____]

I got arrested for mob action and gang activity...

[DOUK or DIE]

i got charged with

1)unlawful mischief

2)smokin the reefer

[glue]

im doing some tags and its prettyt heat(not late enough) so i see the cops there driving in and out of parking lots and shit i cross the street the follow and go into some alley come out the other side with floodlights i couldnt see shit i acted like i was on the phone and the kept going down the street. so its sketched so im keeping it to a minimum but then i just got back into it and everything was fine. i was tagging a plazaa sign with some paint and i saw the camera but i wouldnt think any closed plaza would have 24 hr survaelance or security guard but i walk across the stree and a guy starts yelling "hey buddy" "hey buddy" so i ran into some building and then i just went back onto the street and i see cops at the plaza. then im doing a scratchie and a red car stops at the lights and its green the guys were just staring at me so i stared back and i saw they were in a uniform of some type so i was guessing they were undies, then they drove off and i booked it. it was too sketch :( .

[random victim]

dont i just know what that shits like <_< just keep it sly and run fast :ph34r:

[_____JEKLROKS_____]

To all y'all who were never caught knock on wood, I remember when I was Ghost NBC and that only lasted 3 months being cocky...

[Msfyt]

*just bumping some old threads*

[_____JEKLROKS_____]

Me and my ***** cut school and went to the park down the block to smoke a few blunts, after smoking the first 2 blunts we seen the law passing through Kilborn going south and paused but decided to roll the last one before we get going. So were standing behind the field house by this bench and all of the sudden I hear that loud ass horn cops have blare and turn only to see the front of that very same cop car turning the corner of the field house. Before I had time to toss the bag they grabbed me and hand cuffed me to my chief and handcuffed my 2 other boys together. One cop searched the area while the other searched my two boys. The one cop came back and searched me and my ***** finding 2 $10 bags of marijuana. They both examined it and asked where I got, when I replyed northside they laughed and asked me what they should do. After I asked them to let me ride they said they would flip a coin, if it was'ent what I called in the air they would take me in. First flip, tails I say, heads it lands, both start laughing and take the one handcuff from my chief and put it on my right hand, right when my boys told him he had to catch it and flip it from his hand to the top of his other hand, they two cops laughed and after a second of them both leering at me they did it, tails I called, this time it was tails. They took the cuffs off me, slapped me and my friends and told us to get the fuck outta the park, and also to stay in school next time.

[Havoc411]

youre all having a close encounter with the 5-0 right now. im a cop




^joke^

[_____JEKLROKS_____]

That seems like a joke only a pig would make...

[skateparadise]

Originally posted by darkling_stalkr+Dec 15 2004, 01:25 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (darkling_stalkr @ Dec 15 2004, 01:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Ketamine@Nov 24 2004, 02:16 PM

HOW TO SAY NO

So, when a policeman says "Empty your pockets for me?" or "Why don't you step over here for a moment?" What does a reasonable, law abiding citizen say if s/he doesn't want to? Unfortunately there may be no simple answer to this. Because of the nature of most police-citizen interactions, tensions can be high and LEO's may interpret any dissent as hostility or 'suspicious behaviour'.

Stay Calm. Speak calmly and slowly and don't be surprised if the officer becomes irritated, angry, or beligerent. Move slowly.
Ask Questions. One way to Say No is to ask questions in return: "Is that a request or an order?" "Am I under arrest?" "Am I free to go?" "Why do you want me to *whatever*?" "Am I a suspect in a crime?"
Say No. Another way to Say No is to very clearly say no: "No, I would like to leave." "No, I do not consent to any warrantless searches." "You do not have my permission to search me / my car / my belongings."
Defuse Tensions. Do everything you can to defuse the tensions and seem peaceful. If an LEO thinks you might be dangerous, the courts have ruled that they have a greater authority to force you to comply.
Do not Resist. Do not Argue with a Cop. Do not Touch a cop. Don't Run. Don't complain or threaten an officer legally.
Comply when Required. Knowing when you are required to comply can be difficult (see What You Must Do and What You Don't Have to Do ) The moment an LEO pulls a gun, do what they say. If they make you do something through force, your Constitutional Rights are not as important as staying healthy and alive. You can challenge the arrest in court if your rights are violated.
Give the Cop a Break. Remember that police have a very difficult job to do and most cops are doing their best to try to keep their communities safe. When it comes to dealing with unusual or strange individuals or confronting drug issues, officers (and many people in the world) make some bad snap judgements. But most cops think of themselves as the Good Guys, so try to let em know you're on their side.
Ask for a Lawyer. As soon as its clear you will be arrested, ask for a lawyer and then keep quiet. Police will try to get you to talk. Don't.
"You do not have my permission to search me / my car / my belongings."
does this actually work? and could someone tell me if that article is the same for Canada. [/b][/quote]
if you say No to serch me/ car/ or belonging's the cop cant serch you. so what they do is go back to there car and call a local judge and they get permission to cause its probbal cause. and you just made the cop suspicious and they can check your car or anything. but if you have one of thoes fire proof lock box things they need a whole different serch warrent for that.

[Mettro]

It was my first time getting out to color up the town... I find a block with not a single graffiti on it ( quite wierd), and I go to the corner and paist my tag... I walk around the corner with the can still in my hand ( it's about 2 AM) and I realize I just graffed the poilce department... There wer three police trucks with eight police men cleaning them right in front of me... I continue walking past them, with the can in my hand... I smile to a cop... And continue walking... I wasn't cought, but it was pretty freaky... and fun

[tasor_tbc]

last friday it was about 1130 ish and me an my buddy were just taggin the backalleys with paint. we come to this one alley that had this hudge garrage door that was covered in tags so we hit it up. we walk down to the docks and me an my buddy start talkin about how its so dope that we havnt got busted yet. suddenly this one guy walks past us and the moment i see him i get a bad feeling in my stomach. 3 seconds later this guy says excuse me! so me an buddy turn aroun an he is like "u knmow that graffiti paintin g you just did?" an we were liek uhhhhhhh (thinking oh shit) so this guy is like "well geusse what?? we saw you an the cops are on the way" so i was deneying everything to them an in th emeantime i was thinking about how my parents would kill me. out of now were this guy is like "well you have about 1 min b4 the cops arrive so you have about 1 min to run if you want" so i'm just like starin at him in shock an he sais" go get the fuck out of here you fuks GO!!" so we run like sooooooooooooooooooo fucking fast down to this tunnel by this creek that goes into the see an ditch all oir pens an paint an put our coats into our backpacks so that the cops whould not recognize us an we took the bus home.
so fuking scary!!!

[inker]

i got alot of them check it not graff related at my school there was going to be a big ass rumble atleast 100 involved alomost everyone that write banged in the school was involved including myself then like three cop cars come in and they start cuffing people i manage to get away but it aint over the next day we decided to handle it outside of school a bunch of guys rolling deep draws attention cops come and start getting fools once again i manage to get away by hoping fences
another time this all happened in one day first it was me and three of my friends
i was bearly beggining to become a hardcore writer this is why im not a hardcore writer anymore first we were walking and hitting up this was in the daytime and this copcar sees us we manage to get away easily all three of us but then we go stealing paint from garages and shit we start hitting up again middle of the street we really didnt give a fuck about passing cars and they dont give a fuck about us either then this guy is dogging us and my homeboy is all like wath the fuck r you looking at us u son of a bitch you want to get fucked up get out the car madafucker so he steps out and flashes a badge we run like bitches we get away all three of us once again then we hit up a truck and at the ihop wich was next to were we were was like 4 parked cop cars wich i dont know how we didnt notice we take off like bitches when 2 cops come out the ihop start chasing us me and 2 of my homeboys run into an alley my other friend crosses the street during rush hour i didnt want to get killed so i didnt go wit him we hide in someone elses house for like 30 minutes then we take off we all got away luckily i dont know how we didnt get caught

[inker]

last friday it was about 1130 ish and me an my buddy were just taggin the backalleys with paint. we come to this one alley that had this hudge garrage door that was covered in tags so we hit it up. we walk down to the docks and me an my buddy start talkin about how its so dope that we havnt got busted yet. suddenly this one guy walks past us and the moment i see him i get a bad feeling in my stomach. 3 seconds later this guy says excuse me! so me an buddy turn aroun an he is like "u knmow that graffiti paintin g you just did?" an we were liek uhhhhhhh (thinking oh shit) so this guy is like "well geusse what?? we saw you an the cops are on the way" so i was deneying everything to them an in th emeantime i was thinking about how my parents would kill me. out of now were this guy is like "well you have about 1 min b4 the cops arrive so you have about 1 min to run if you want" so i'm just like starin at him in shock an he sais" go get the fuck out of here you fuks GO!!" so we run like sooooooooooooooooooo fucking fast down to this tunnel by this creek that goes into the see an ditch all oir pens an paint an put our coats into our backpacks so that the cops whould not recognize us an we took the bus home.
so fuking scary!!!
i would have hit his ass wit my brass knuckles in the jaw then i wuld have run

[inker]

this one time at about 8:00 pm me and my friend were on a roof top that cold be seen in plain view of any car that would pass by then we hear someone talking shit to us and we were like fuck you you sonof a bitch then we see a cop car coming and me and my homeboy jump down the other side and we land on some apartments then i run with my homeboy have you ever seen thoose movies were the one guy jumps over the wall and then the other guy opens the gate ye well i was the dumbass who jumped over the wall and we get away

[_____JEKLROKS_____]

I got arrested for Mob action, gang activity, vandalization of public property, private property, possession of marijuana and public intoxication. You ever try to tell a cop that its not ok for them to search your stuff? All they gotta do is still go in whatever and find somthing, and who you think the judge will belive the guy with a pistol, weed, spraycans etc. or the fellow cracker cop? And even if they do follow procedure and not search you all they have to do is radio in for them drug sniffing dog, or plant rocks on you.

[shyone]

Originally posted by _____JEKLROKS_____@Feb 14 2005, 02:32 AM
I got arrested for Mob action, gang activity, vandalization of public property, private property, possession of marijuana and public intoxication. You ever try to tell a cop that its not ok for them to search your stuff? All they gotta do is still go in whatever and find somthing, and who you think the judge will belive the guy with a pistol, weed, spraycans etc. or the fellow cracker cop? And even if they do follow procedure and not search you all they have to do is radio in for them drug sniffing dog, or plant rocks on you.
whats mob action and gang activity?

[Havoc411]

Originally posted by _____JEKLROKS_____@Feb 13 2005, 06:40 PM
That seems like a joke only a pig would make...
than youre an idiot

[Alchohlics_Anonymous]

i once pulled a knife on a cop, the knife was bigger than the guy in Havocs sig (Rambo rite?) boy...wut an experiance that was.

[bigbomba']

you pulled on a cop thats grounds for him to shoot you over and over in the face

[Havoc411]

too bad nobody has a bigger knife than Lt. John Rambo.

[_____JEKLROKS_____]

Originally posted by shyone+Feb 16 2005, 03:16 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (shyone @ Feb 16 2005, 03:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-_____JEKLROKS_____@Feb 14 2005, 02:32 AM
I got arrested for Mob action, gang activity, vandalization of public property, private property, possession of marijuana and public intoxication. You ever try to tell a cop that its not ok for them to search your stuff? All they gotta do is still go in whatever and find somthing, and who you think the judge will belive the guy with a pistol, weed, spraycans etc. or the fellow cracker cop? And even if they do follow procedure and not search you all they have to do is radio in for them drug sniffing dog, or plant rocks on you.
whats mob action and gang activity? [/b][/quote]
Mob action is what the cops put down if its more than 5 people participating in a fight and gang activity is what they put if they have admittance of affilliation by an offender. Not me but they knew my folks.

[shyone]

ok

[preach]

i was in some town for a jazz music festival and i was in the bathroom stall writing and i come out and this mall cop is like "empty your pockets right now."
I emptied out my wallet, hat, and white kiwi mop but kept my black paint marker (the one i was writing with) in my pocket. he asked me what the mop was for and i told him for whitening my sneakers then he was like "wait here." then he went on his walkie-talkie and was like "i caught the guy doing graffiti in the stalls." and while he was doing that i took my marker out of my pocket and threw it on the ground then he came over and asked what it was. i just played stupid even though im pretty sure he knew i was doing stuff but after i told him im just here with a jazz band and i live in winnipeg he just let me go.
i thought it was pretty hardcore but then i realized it was just a mall cop.

[scared-lil-boy]

not taggin related, but I pulled out my switch blade at another kid at school and the skool called the cops on me.......

[Havoc411]

thats why you dont use weapons at school, you use fists and if you really wanna hurt the kid you use feet

[DEVILEFK]

havoc you ever been in a fight?

[Havoc411]

yeah, why? you wanna effin go? huh? huh? huh? huh?

[wreckone.]

last saturday i was near my house in the back alley of my local community center checking outa throwup done on the garage. well before i left the place, i decided to try out my new bombing markers i had recently bought from urbanbakery the day before on one of those attatchable shouvel things that connect to tractors and trucks, when this old guy came out of nowhere and was right in fornt of me cursing and shit(looked like my vice principal or someone) so i pulled my hood up and just belted out of there right past him and even fell while runing down the back alley, haha.. but whatever, then i saw preach when i turned the corner and i was all like "get the fuck out of here" and he was like" no i wanna see my throup", so i just cotinued running and i went down all these twisty, turny, coldisac(sp) streets for like five minutes, then saw preach again telling me to meet me at his house someway, when this black truck slowly stopped while rolling down his window and this forty year old guy was all like " feel good painting" and i gunned the fuck out of there before his truck even stopped and ran till i could nolonger run so he pulled up beside me and was like you think your cool and shit and other stuff and was asking me for my address so i gave him the right one but he must've been def as fuck because he was like 427 grant ave.? and i just replied "yeah", then he was all like i'm going to the station to report you rignt now and drov ein the direction of the station, so i ran home. i'm suprised he never asked my name or anyhting..def ass bitch.

[tkS`]

rofl im not getting bit for graffing, closest call was an off duty officer lady who didnt book me

[laz'e]

ive been chased by the pigs a few times got chased about a week back and i had just hit this like school bus which was in this little depo thing and we hit a few fine then we walked out and the police we driving down the road towards us with there sirens going so we just legged it down all the back alleyways to get away but its all good gets you adrenaline pumping.

[Tone.SG]

i was doing graff in this bridge and the cops came. so the first time i hid in the pillars and they left the second time we booked and got away, there was a squad car and a motorcycle. it was in china too so they get really pissed about graffiti. they beat my friend just cause he was skating

[element503]

it didnt say it had to be about graffiti so here i go.

me and 3 friends were over at our old school and i went to the teachers lounge to see if they had some soda in the refridgerator and then i looked in the freezer and saw like 3 boxes of icecream bars. i told 2 to watch guard and one person to come with me. and grab 2 boxes and i grab 1 and a few loose ones. as we're 1 block away the cops see us with a bunch of ice cream and say freeze. we dropped all the ice cream accept for 1 box and threw it over a fence and jumped it and ran into my friends house 1 block away.

damn the icecream tasted soooo good after that. but ill never know what the other box was like :(

[_____JEKLROKS_____]

Damn kids these days stealing ice cream, one time I borrowed a pen from my teacher and I left with it and when I got outside and looked at it I got a adrenaline rush! But then the cops came and they all put their guns pointing at me so I threw it in the air to distract them and then take their guns and ran.

[Alchohlics_Anonymous]

^hahaha fuckin hilarious! :lol:

[wreckone.]

EDIT:

[wreckone.]

i'm a fast runner, but i hate when i'm running so fast and bugs get caught in my teeth.

[716DropsBombs]

Today at around 4 me and my boys were hittin a window in an alley outside a store. My friend was coverin me because it was busy spot. I was in the middle of a handstyle when my friend started tapin me on the arm hes like hold up hold up, he is usually paranoid so i thought there was a person like a mile away but when i finished i looked up and saw the store owner stairin me down. Me and my dogs fuckin booked and we came back like 30 min later and there was a cop lookin at all the graff he saw me and started yellin at me to come over and i booked. I spent the next hour crunched behind a dumpster while the cops searched for me.


At least i didnt get caught

[**MATEO**]

Originally posted by **MATEO**@Nov 24 2004, 07:19 PM
i dont wanna get coaught i just started at this u can call me a toy and if i got coaught and the cops told my parents i wouldnt be leavin the house 4 ever
hahahahaha......wow

[Msfyt]

*bump*

[InvisblSkratchPiklz]

that's the bitch cop that stopped me back in 2003 (not graffiti related)
http://img314.imageshack.us/img314/796/2006062424june00037ys.jpg

The ONLY good cop, is a dead cop

[Mexiklan Beaner]

one time i asked them for stickers :lol:

[AKR2]

Originally posted by _____JEKLROKS_____+Dec 15 2004, 08:06 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (_____JEKLROKS_____ @ Dec 15 2004, 08:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-ESNED@Dec 15 2004, 08:01 PM
close i had a sharpie on me and it was past my curfew.
Fuckin' toy...[/b][/quote]
Lmao dude

[GUNR]

nice resp akr2 , wered u git it