Photography

[||BREAD||]

spend an extra bill for the D60...trust me its worth it. and go to best buy for it and get the package that has the 300mm lens, its only 50$ more.

[UpstateHate585]

im a little sketchy on ebay. its like a last resort. i hate bidding on shit. and then if u do the buy it now, theres still the chance of shit getting fucked up.

everyone has been telling me to get the d40 cuz its cheap and good for what i want (bands, portraits, some model shoots)

[ares]

I want that shirt.

[PERVERTO]

spend an extra bill for the D60...trust me its worth it. and go to best buy for it and get the package that has the 300mm lens, its only 50$ more.

No, don't. You get a little bit more megapixels and a worse camera overall.

[ShIfTeD]

nawww son, more megapixels = better camera

:p hahah

do they just sell the single recievers? i was thinking 4 remote flashes

damn, im pretty happy, good ass deal on 3 tripods, 3 vivitar flashes, and all the remote shit for less then $300...what a fuckin deal

[PERVERTO]

Yep, there are cheapskate alternatives to anything really.

[thesecks]

nawww son, more megapixels = better camera

:p hahah

do they just sell the single recievers? i was thinking 4 remote flashes

damn, im pretty happy, good ass deal on 3 tripods, 3 vivitar flashes, and all the remote shit for less then $300...what a fuckin deal

where from bro?

[thesecks]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2490/4042506444_5ba216f708_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2528/4041765001_451e9b9f50_b.jpg

[PERVERTO]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Phottix-Tetra-PT-04-II-Flash-Trigger-w-3-Receivers_W0QQitemZ260487644895QQcmdZViewItemQQptZ Camera_Flash_Accessories?hash=item3ca64606df


these are the exact ones I have, very cheap.
Get these shifty.

[PERVERTO]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3109/2579616649_abfcbe65aa.jpg
leica MP with leicavit
one day...

[reepa]

Can someone help me. I have a Sony A200 with kit lens atm, at christmas i'm thinking about getting a sigma 17-70 lens and a pack of filters.
Can someone point me in the direction of a basic filter pack

[kmcdon3960]

Why do you want to get a 17-70 lens? Isn't that very close to the focal length of your kit? You'll probably want to look at fast primes or telephoto instead.

Good filters to get are going to be your basic polarizer and uv. If you shoot alot of black and white you may want to look into a yellow and red filter, to help up the contrast a bit. You might want to look into neutral density also

[kmcdon3960]

http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/images/pma07/IMG_7925-zeiss.jpg
http://www.taunusreiter.de/Cameras/BessaL%20Heliar%201.jpg

Ths ultimate in shooting from the hip. No rangefinder to distract you, just mount your 15mm, guess the focus, and fire.

[reepa]

Why do you want to get a 17-70 lens? Isn't that very close to the focal length of your kit? You'll probably want to look at fast primes or telephoto instead.

Good filters to get are going to be your basic polarizer and uv. If you shoot alot of black and white you may want to look into a yellow and red filter, to help up the contrast a bit. You might want to look into neutral density also

The idea was to replace the kit lens.
I like shooting landscapes. But i really like taking pictures of people but i'm too scared of taking their photo coz they'll think i'm a wierdo or something lol

[kmcdon3960]

I think it'd be a huge waste of money to buy that lens.

Also, get right up in their faces:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkIWW6vwrvM

[thesecks]

The idea was to replace the kit lens.
I like shooting landscapes. But i really like taking pictures of people but i'm too scared of taking their photo coz they'll think i'm a wierdo or something lol

fuck um, if its in the city or whatever, youll probably never gunna see them again and theyll forget that someone random person just took their photo a few minutes later and youve got a photo to keep forever, but if you pussy out, then youve got nothing and youll regret it

[reepa]

HAHA that's funny!
You think i should go ahead and buy one like this then?
http://www.jessops.com/online.store/categories/products/Sony/50mm%20f1.8%20SAM%20Portrait%20Lens-76287/Show.html

[suicidebomber]

http://www.bombingscience.com/graffitiforum/picture.php?albumid=294&pictureid=2618

i figured if i was going to be obnoxious i might as well contribute.

welldone.

[suicidebomber]

http://i34.tinypic.com/977fo8.jpg

[ManFromDaMoon]

Get D5000 if you can afford it, or a D40 rather than a D3000.

thanks bro.

[dinedgc]

a bug and then some screwin around with exposure and what nots

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a377/blured09/DSC_0010.jpg

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[PERVERTO]

The idea was to replace the kit lens.
I like shooting landscapes. But i really like taking pictures of people but i'm too scared of taking their photo coz they'll think i'm a wierdo or something lol

If you like landscape get a wide angle, but wider than 17mm.

Try the tokina 11-16mm or tokina 12-24mm. Both are great wide angles but the former has constant f/2.8 aperture while the latter has f/4.

I have the 11-16 and I love it. I'm pretty sure they come in canon and nikon mounts.

[PERVERTO]

Oh, but you use sony. Yeah get that 1.8 you posted. Everyone should have a fast prime.

[PERVERTO]

And KMC, gilden is a king among men.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UC02bm7ZxM

another video about him.

[PERVERTO]

http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/images/pma07/IMG_7925-zeiss.jpg
http://www.taunusreiter.de/Cameras/BessaL%20Heliar%201.jpg

Ths ultimate in shooting from the hip. No rangefinder to distract you, just mount your 15mm, guess the focus, and fire.

I find 15mm too wide, I'm getting a 21mm soon.

[-Empty-Can-]

Wow your double post alot lol.

[PERVERTO]

Yeah, fuck a bitch

[ManFromDaMoon]

gettin a d40 refurbished of ebay. now i have to find a cheap fisheye lens. i found one on ebay for $40 but i dont trust that. god i hate being lower middle class.

[Werse]

Nahh man, get the 40 dollar one, Ive had mine for a year and it works pretty good.
18mm= fisheye, 55mm= macro... cant go wrong.

[UpstateHate585]

i was reading some digital photography books in borders today and learned a little bit. there seemed to be books on everything model but the d40 haha

[PERVERTO]

Thats because the D40 is discontinued, and thats why it's so cheap.

[PERVERTO]

gettin a d40 refurbished of ebay. now i have to find a cheap fisheye lens. i found one on ebay for $40 but i dont trust that. god i hate being lower middle class.

Those cheap fisheyes are ok as a novelty but they aren't sharp at all on the edges. The cheapest your looking at is the 10.5mm DX fisheye, but you won't be able to use autofocus on your d40 with it.

[PERVERTO]

I kinda like how this is out of focus.

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1593/dsc3620copyk.jpg

[Robbie P]

http://www.petervanagtmael.com/

this dude shoots for magnum and is in Afghanistan right now and previously was in iraq. dude is a gangster, check him out.

[ShIfTeD]

welcome to the chicago hardcore scene

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[sincewhen]

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[PERVERTO]

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/5716/picture11rx.jpg
a book im putting together
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/5720/dsc3653k.jpg
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[PERVERTO]

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my leica
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9352/dsc3598copy.jpg
some barbed fucking wire

[UpstateHate585]

barbed fucking wire for the win haha. so far heres a list of things i think im going to want/need. let me know if im missing something or have something dumb on there lol

tripod
remote flash(es)
studio light
reflectors (might try to make some ghetto ones)
possibly a cable release
extra battery
grip
lenses in the future, not sure what i want though deff a fisheye
should i get some filters too?

old pic for talking
http://i38.tinypic.com/28l6i6h.jpg

[-Empty-Can-]

http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww131/pics4bscience/IMG_8345.jpg
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww131/pics4bscience/IMG_8456.jpg
photos from saturday

[PERVERTO]

barbed fucking wire for the win haha. so far heres a list of things i think im going to want/need. let me know if im missing something or have something dumb on there lol

tripod
remote flash(es)
studio light
reflectors (might try to make some ghetto ones)
possibly a cable release
extra battery
grip
lenses in the future, not sure what i want though deff a fisheye
should i get some filters too?

old pic for talking
http://i38.tinypic.com/28l6i6h.jpg

Forget tripod for now, forget studio lights, buy one decent SB-600 and then more cheap flashes, forget cable releases, grip is handy simply for shooting portrait, I use mine constantly, no need for filters in what your doing. Remember if you want a fisheye you won't be able to use it with auto focus on your D40, which sucks.

[kmcdon3960]

got my 285hv today. This thing is excellent when it comes to the vari-power meter. I can get it to cover my 10mm lens inside too, so I might try it out at a show this weekend.

[UpstateHate585]

Forget tripod for now, forget studio lights, buy one decent SB-600 and then more cheap flashes, forget cable releases, grip is handy simply for shooting portrait, I use mine constantly, no need for filters in what your doing. Remember if you want a fisheye you won't be able to use it with auto focus on your D40, which sucks.

that does kinda suck, a fisheye can wait though, it's not super important. the reason i wanted a tripod and a possible studio lights is that shows isnt the only thing i want to shoot. i want to do senior portraits and various stuff with models as well

[-Empty-Can-]

Remember if you want a fisheye you won't be able to use it with auto focus on your D40, which sucks.
Does that go for any fisheye? I tried using manual focus once but i don't know how the fuck you use it.

[PERVERTO]

Nikon fisheyes only work with cameras that have auto focus motors. So anything that isn't a d40 d60 d3000 or d5000. A fisheye is so wide anyway its pretty easy to focus manually.

[PERVERTO]

Learn to use focus manually anyway, it should be second nature.

[-Empty-Can-]

How do you use it? I Tried it and i just zoomed in and things became out of focus. How do you clear those things up?

[PERVERTO]

Are you serious? you turn the focus ring on your lens until its in focus....

[-Empty-Can-]

Oh lol well i didn't really try much. I'll screw with it this week

[vegimite on toast]

^you have a nikon slr and dont know how to turn a focus ring??

was playing with a friends d80 a few weeks ago
sex with a lens!
goddamn, nikon trumps any other brand

[-Empty-Can-]

I don't have any SLR. I use my brother though.

I wanna get an SLR.

[kmcdon3960]

goddamn, nikon trumps any other brand

ugh.

[PERVERTO]

Preach!

[Robbie P]

canon and leica make good shit. nikon is a brand, just like all the others.

[PERVERTO]

na nikon is king bro king king king nikon nikon king nikon king king king

[theorist]

Mario Wario Lucario?

[PERVERTO]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ8PGxL6urg&feature=PlayList&p=43F5ABFF211D2C34&index=4


posting these videos again, if you havn't watched them, then do.

[UpstateHate585]

i remember those. very nice. i have been watching vids on youtube for about an hour trying to find tips on shooting live concerts and whatnot.

[PERVERTO]

I can give you links to photography documentarys if you'd like, they are large files though but they are amazing.

[UpstateHate585]

yeah man, that would be great. i think though, the best way for me to figure shit out is to just go out and try it myself. i just find some of it overwhelming. i'll prolly spend a few days just messing with different things just to see for myself what they do and how i can use them

[PERVERTO]

http://i40.tinypic.com/2ak9t2s.jpg
http://rapidshare.com/files/222736336/warphoto.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/222737359/warphoto.part2.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/222737992/warphoto.part3.rar
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http://rapidshare.com/files/222738883/warphoto.part5.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/222738308/warphoto.part6.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/222741875/warphoto.part7.rar

The Genius of Photography
EP1
http://rapidshare.com/files/76438498/BBC_The_Genius_Of_Photography_ep1.avi.003
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http://rapidshare.com/files/76438276/BBC_The_Genius_Of_Photography_ep1.avi.004

EP2:
http://rapidshare.com/files/76438503/BBC_The_Genius_Of_Photography_ep2.avi.001
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EP3
http://rapidshare.com/files/76438510/BBC_The_Genius_Of_Photography_ep3.avi.002
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EP4
http://rapidshare.com/files/76438300/BBC_The_Genius_Of_Photography_ep4.avi.003
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EP5
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EP6
http://rapidshare.com/files/76438578/BBC_The_Genius_Of_Photography_ep6.avi.001
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THESE ARE GREAT ^^^


AMERICAN PHOTOGRAPHY
password for all:
Code:
www.Chipollo.Info


CD1/3 - Episode One - The Developing Image, 1900-1934
Code:
http://rapidshare.com/files/10358196/Am_Ph_1_3.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/10373979/Am_Ph_1_3.part2.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/10390300/Am_Ph_1_3.part3.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/10405554/Am_Ph_1_3.part4.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/10420995/Am_Ph_1_3.part5.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/10428966/Am_Ph_1_3.part6.rar


CD2/3 - Episode 2 - The Photographic Age, 1935-1959
Code:
http://rapidshare.com/files/9434702/Am_Ph_2_3.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/9434709/Am_Ph_2_3.part2.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/9434723/Am_Ph_2_3.part3.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/9434543/Am_Ph_2_3.part4.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/9434588/Am_Ph_2_3.part5.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/9434547/Am_Ph_2_3.part6.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/9434562/Am_Ph_2_3.part7.rar


CD3/3 - Episode 3 - Photography Transformed, 1960-1999
Code:
http://rapidshare.com/files/9434724/Am_Ph_3_3.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/9434553/Am_Ph_3_3.part2.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/9434559/Am_Ph_3_3.part3.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/9434721/Am_Ph_3_3.part4.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/9434551/Am_Ph_3_3.part5.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/9434729/Am_Ph_3_3.part6.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/9434722/Am_Ph_3_3.part7.rar

[ShIfTeD]

^^^
awesome

thankyou

[PERVERTO]

Theres more where that came from. Just ask.

[vegimite on toast]

na nikon is king bro king king king nikon nikon king nikon king king king

sorry guys i'm not a photography snob
i'm not a photographer and i don't often take photos
all i know is, i've used high end canon, sony, panasonic cameras before
and they SUCK compared to the feel of nikon
i've never used leica so i wouldn't know
but god forbid i say nikon is the shit
you're all a bunch of snobs

[kmcdon3960]

you forgot about pentax and minolta
all hail minolta!!

[ShIfTeD]

Kodak!

[dinedgc]

naw...nikon is the shizzle for real, hoping to get a fisheye soon, just to fuck around with honestly, they're fun

[irockyourass]

just broke out my parents old cannon ae-1, havent touched that thing in years, looking forward to getting out there and catching some nice shots

[PERVERTO]

Good camera, that.

[UpstateHate585]

havin a hard time getting those links to work perve

[PERVERTO]

It's easiest to just buy a rapidshare account, the 30 day one, its only like 10$ or something.

[UpstateHate585]

yeah cant do that right now haha. i am seriously strapped for cash at the moment

[ManFromDaMoon]

Those cheap fisheyes are ok as a novelty but they aren't sharp at all on the edges. The cheapest your looking at is the 10.5mm DX fisheye, but you won't be able to use autofocus on your d40 with it.

i was doin some reasearch and it said that you can tape the focus ring somewhere between infinity and 2 feet you will almost always be in focus. whatevs even if im not i can manualy focus it. granted it would be a pain in the ass for short-on-time shots.

[PERVERTO]

Fisheyes are useless unless used really really close to your subject, so basically that taping the focus ring wouldn't work. If you shot at small apertures like F11 it would probably work but shooting at night at large apertures then it probably wouldn't. Whenever I shoot my party photos, I am always within 1-2 feet of the subject with a fisheye.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/hHFPsYz9Iq4gsh7eN68K65XNo1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId =0RYTHV9YYQ4W5Q3HQMG2&Expires=1256775667&Signature=9zN4PAaYqpU202yqZ6e1y7C7xP8%3D

[ManFromDaMoon]

well i plan on shooting a whole shitload of things. mostly abandoned places/cars and winter night shots. did you enter that in the photography battle?

[PERVERTO]

Yes. Fisheye's are novelty's, sure they look cool, but the novelty wears off. They are good ONLY for skate boarding / sports, and parties in my opinion.

[ManFromDaMoon]

well you can make em cool in ceirtan situations i guess. its always good to have em though.

[PERVERTO]

Yeah, but for 700$ ???

Thats the question.

[bigupsforyall]

fat ass squrril couldnt get a good pic b4 that fat ass thing ran away lol
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo26/bigupsforyall/random1/Picture635.jpg

[bigupsforyall]

http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo26/bigupsforyall/random1/Picture581.jpg
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[Werse]

Focus on the subject if your gonna do macro.

[dim]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2636/4051345288_9bbe8b9a89_o.jpg

[PERVERTO]

fat ass squrril couldnt get a good pic b4 that fat ass thing ran away lol
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo26/bigupsforyall/random1/Picture635.jpg

Fuck, squirrels are a trip.

Our equivalent is the possum:

http://www.richard-seaman.com/Mammals/Australia/Possum.jpg

Vile little aussie cock suckers.

[PERVERTO]

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http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/4492/dsc39301.jpg
lazer tagging with a projector... not my steez though... :S

[SAID]

Fisheye on the last one with the buildings give a smooth effect !
So ill

[Robbie P]

fisheyes don't normally look like that, that one looks like it got straightened out in photoshop.

[PERVERTO]

Nope, I do often straighten the horizontal lines via fisheye hemi filter, but that particular one hasn't been touched.

[kmcdon3960]

what? huh? what kind of projector did you use for that, doesn't look like the 5th grade overhead projector we used to have

[vegimite on toast]

computer projectors
http://projectorsrental.net/images/projector/projector_250x251.jpg

not overhead projectors
http://unapologetic.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/overhead_projector.jpg

i think fisheye photos look pretty cool, for portraiture
i seen some ones that are ridiculous that capture stuff almost behind the photographer
i don't know how large they are but, ak would

[iWrite.]

getting a brand new Nikon D90 today along with a brand new 18-105 mm VR lens ;D may i addd im getting it for FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ; ) gotsta loveee robbbbbinn ppl.

[thesecks]

I just emailed a local photographer and he sent me a thousand word reply pretty much telling me not to do it.

Perv, what are you gunna do/are doing as a career?

[-Empty-Can-]

i seen some ones that are ridiculous that capture stuff almost behind the photographer
i don't know how large they are but, ak would
That sounds interesting. I always wonder how the fuck they make these lenses. I would like a fisheye when i get a camera.

[RFI. SPit]

http://www.mothkingdom.com/photo/1280/226224201/1/tumblr_ks8tehPE9e1qze2z6

[PERVERTO]

computer projectors
http://projectorsrental.net/images/projector/projector_250x251.jpg

not overhead projectors
http://unapologetic.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/overhead_projector.jpg

i think fisheye photos look pretty cool, for portraiture
i seen some ones that are ridiculous that capture stuff almost behind the photographer
i don't know how large they are but, ak would

They are cool if the distortion created by being so close to your subject is what you want, (huge nose, big eyes, large forehead etc) but it is not a true representation of your subject. Again, it's just a novelty. Thats why pro's use huge 70-200mm 2.8 lenses when shooting people in studios etc. The distance flattens the subject so that it is the most flattering for the subject. Getting up close with a fisheye makes the subject's nose look huge and isn't appealing for the subject.

My fisheye is tiny, about the size of a large 50mm. The canon 50mm's are bigger even.

Fisheyes are dope for making things look 'zany'. And they are great for making a shit party look like it's amazing.

[PERVERTO]

I just emailed a local photographer and he sent me a thousand word reply pretty much telling me not to do it.

Perv, what are you gunna do/are doing as a career?

Build up a portfolio and send it to every advertising agency I can. Also create an architecture portfolio and try get some work out of that. Start from the bottom, charge competitively and build a name for myself slowly.

Keep emailing photographers and try tp become a non paid assistant. Make sure you tell them how much you like their work, and why. Also say why you are into photography and the kinds of photography you are into, and why he would want you as his assistant. Some photographers hate assistant's and hate being teachers, others love it. Just keep trying.

[reepa]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2654/4051132244_0b763673a9_b.jpghttp://farm3.static.flickr.com/2522/4051131582_edcef18dff_b.jpghttp://farm3.static.flickr.com/2465/4050386741_2c95d40218_b.jpghttp://farm3.static.flickr.com/2488/4050386295_9f66b79f50_b.jpghttp://farm3.static.flickr.com/2461/4051129520_791daec8e1_b.jpghttp://farm3.static.flickr.com/2791/4051128684_edd25983e3_b.jpghttp://farm3.static.flickr.com/2504/4050384433_7e18f6a622_b.jpg

[wiserism]

jus wonderin wat up with the guy n the pole? lol

[UpstateHate585]

Those don't look too bad dude, I personally think black and white gets a little generic if its done too much. But goo flicks none the less

[reepa]

Erm, the guy with the pole.... He was some kid fishing on his own.... I thought i would take a picture coz i thought it was cool.

And Upstate, I would have normally taken most of the pictures in colour because of the colours the leaves and stuff have now but i was asked by someone to take some black and white ones because he wants to frame them and put them in his new house.

[wiserism]

yea it does look kool and intresting lmao....but yea fresh flicks man i like

[UpstateHate585]

And Upstate, I would have normally taken most of the pictures in colour because of the colours the leaves and stuff have now but i was asked by someone to take some black and white ones because he wants to frame them and put them in his new house.

gotcha, nice job then lol

[PERVERTO]

Perrrrrrrrrrsonally I like black and white to be reserved for black and white film... You've spent thousands on a digital camera with an incredible picture quality, so why degrade and use black and white?

Thinking out loud here, I'll probably regret that statement later.

[ares]

saying bw degrades picture quality completely depends on the process and the person behind that process, its not something that can be generalized. I can see what your saying with simple black and white settings on your camera, but if your shooting raw and converting in post how is that degrading the quality? I wouldn't say the style degrades image quality, more the photographer shooting and working on it.

and I really enjoy film, but if you spend a grip of cash on a dslr why not take advantage of the convenience of it? Film is great for fine art stuff, and theres something in being able to hold your negatives or positives, but its not very practical.

[PERVERTO]

I more meant that I dislike when people try to make their crisp digital files look like film, adding grain, making them black and white etc. It seems silly to spend so much on a camera for its picture quality to then take it back 10 years and make it look like film.

But my comment was full of holes.

[RFI. SPit]

I really think b&w can sometimes do far more for a picture than colour ever could while shooting digital
Personal preference I guess, whatever

[PERVERTO]

Yeah I know. I'm wrong. But I'm right too.

[vegimite on toast]

oh
my
god
did you just say you were wrong?

[RFI. SPit]

Yea you're right in a way, that nice colour and quality you get with an expensive camera can't be looked past

[vegimite on toast]

i guess what hes trying to say is why have a digital camera if you're going for a film look
i really like how film looks when its developed
always been one for PHYSICAL photographs rather than digital files
unfortunately i just can't afford film and developing otherwise id probably shoot with it all the time

[kmcdon3960]

it's cheap as hell to develop film. You can get a camera, tank, chems, thermometer, and clips for under $100. You can do it for under $50 if you try hard. developer and fixer and wetting agent will be less then $20 every few months.

The expensive part is the enlarger or scanner.

[Robbie P]

shooting film yourself is pretty inexpensive. you can get pretty cheap enlargers too, like 100-200 for something half-crap, but it prints photos.

but having a lab takes up so much space. you got 4 tanks for developing, then you have to have a cabinet for your negatives to dry, then another 4 trays for when you have to print, a fat enlarger, and then a place to dry prints. shit's hectic. and all this has to be in a dark ass place.

[PERVERTO]

Impossible for me.

[vegimite on toast]

i dont think it would be too difficult to set up a darkroom. its just impractical. maybe if i i was a dedicated photographer, then yes it would be an option. but i'm not.

and about the cost, it might be cheaper than i imagine but for the equipment, chemicals, paper, film, i'm sure it adds up

i just get my digital photos printed at a photo lab for 30 cents each. much more convenient.

film is real nice though and i would prefer it.

[PERVERTO]

I have no interest in printing my negatives, only scanning them.

[PERVERTO]

http://cameraquest.com/jpg5/VoigtR4M_282a.jpg

Can someone buy one please.

[kmcdon3960]

I thought you hated those. You know damnwell I'm getting one as soon as I get the money, but I'm going to get it as a kit.

Tax refunds come here in february, so that's when I'll have one.

[UpstateHate585]

so i have been thinking about what i want out of a camera and since i dont know much about them, i come here again lol. i am set on the d40. but what is the biggest i will be able to print something and maintain a good image?

i just might want to make bigger prints to hang in the house or for my girls rents

thanks

[thesecks]

just buy the dam d40, you wont regret it

[Peter Reveen]

10 megapixel print poster size clear.

[UpstateHate585]

i am set on the d40 haha. i just was wondering how big i will be able to print. it has 6mp

[Peter Reveen]

http://www.design215.com/toolbox/megapixels.php

[MarthaT]

I want a d40 as well :)

[UpstateHate585]

well that kinda stinks haha. o well, maybe i can print it in parts and put it together nicely. who knows

[PERVERTO]

just buy the dam d40, you wont regret it

Yeah. Stop asking questions. If you are worried, then pay more. But on your budget the D40 is your best bet.

[PERVERTO]

I thought you hated those. You know damnwell I'm getting one as soon as I get the money, but I'm going to get it as a kit.

Tax refunds come here in february, so that's when I'll have one.

I don't hate them, just leicas are better :D

I just love the look of them. What lens are you getting? They have a good deal on an R4M and a 28/2 which seems like a dope lens.

Make sure you get the R4M and not the R4A. I've heard horror stories about locking shutters and malfunctions on the electronic shutters of bessas.

[PERVERTO]

well that kinda stinks haha. o well, maybe i can print it in parts and put it together nicely. who knows

If you are looking to print high quality ink jet prints at poster size, d40 isn't the best. But realistically how often are you going to be doing this. For a simple laser jet print at poster size d40 is fine. The quality won't matter too much.

[ManFromDaMoon]

D40 for the win! tried my friends out the other day. i pissed myself at the results.

[kmcdon3960]

I'm not sure if I'm going for the r4m or the r3m, there's a huuuuge difference in the size of the viewfinder. Maybe the 4, because I'm not going to be putting anything bigger than a 50 on it (i think)

I'll probably go for a 35mm or a 40 and twentysomething.

[PERVERTO]

anything over a 50 on a rangefinder is silly I reckon.

[SAID]

Yo Perve,
to scan my negatives, I leave them in the contact sheet, scan em, inverse the colors and then proceed to lightroom? ( if needed )

[kmcdon3960]

you got a photo scanner? if the light is not in the lid you'll get nothing

[SAID]

I don't have a photo scanner..
So I just scan the pictures directly?
They turn out like pure shit when I do that.

[PERVERTO]

Yeah, a film scanner is the only way unless you take them to a shop to get them scanned.

[SAID]

Ahhh kk.
Thanks guys !

[SAID]

shit doesn't even compare to the developped photos..
Portrait assigment!
(flicked with an Olympus OM-1)
http://www.imgplace.com/img215/7255/72bw012.jpg
http://www.imgplace.com/img217/6718/46bw010.jpg
http://www.imgplace.com/img217/5527/16bw009.jpg
http://www.imgplace.com/img217/4388/73bw011.jpg
http://www.imgplace.com/img215/147/28tat.jpg
http://www.imgplace.com/img215/2715/88bw013.jpg

[PERVERTO]

nice ones, fuck film looks dope.

[SAID]

Thank you.
Yeah man film is really one of a kind shit.

[SAID]

Yo Perve, you didn't start shooting with your Leica yet?

[ShIfTeD]

im deciding whether or not to get the fisheye for live band shots, one thing i would hate to do is drop $500-$750 on a lense i wont use

i think i'd get my moneys worth

[SAID]

I'd def do it.
It won't only be for that dude, if you go on roadtrips and shit, fisheye looks great too.
But in the end, it all comes down to you and your needs.
I just find fisheye looks great all around, with some obvious exceptions.

[PERVERTO]

You will definately use it if you buy it. The thing is hella fun if you can afford it.
If you already own a wide angle zoom and prime, then go for it.

[PERVERTO]

Yo Perve, you didn't start shooting with your Leica yet?

Yeah I've shot four rolls. Just still havn't got off my ass and gone to get them developped for scanning. I live in the central business district of my city and I'm just THAT lazy.

[SAID]

HAAA
you fucking bum!
Go get that shit developped I'm pumped as fuck to see how that Leica shoots!

[PERVERTO]

It won't be any different to any other camera, I havn't got a leica lens yet. The lenses is where the magic happens.

[-Empty-Can-]

I'm gonna try to take some cool photos tomorrow and saturday.

Any of you guys print your photos? My brother printed some of his baby on this website for like 8 cents. They're large photos too.

[PERVERTO]

I use my school massive ink jet on photographic paper sometiems, but I don't see the point of it as yet.

[ShIfTeD]

yeah, whats the deal with the fisheye's that add the circle border around the shot, like part of the photo

is that every fisheye or what?

[SAID]

Nah those are mostly cheap ones dude

[PERVERTO]

Yeah. The cheap ones on a zoom lens work like, if u zoom right out, they have a ring, whereas if you zoom in, they become full frame but that aren't very fisheye'y.

There are types of expensive fisheyes too, the 10.5mm that i've got is a full frame fisheye whereas you can buy circular fisheyes as well. (I don't see the point)

[ShIfTeD]

i think the framed circle around its only cool for like skate and bmx shots and shit like that

[PERVERTO]

An example of why they suck. My old one. Check the quality round the edges. Yuck.

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/8852/dsc0051jpgo.jpg
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/5552/dsc0087jpg.jpg


Now compare to my 10.5

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/2576/dsc0102s.jpg

yummy.

[-Empty-Can-]

What kind is that?

I really want a fisheye but i don't know much about them. How can you tell how much distortion there is gonna be in the corners and stuff? What would be a good size for skateboarding pictures?

[PERVERTO]

All the cheap ones are rubbish like that. If you don't care, then get one.

Mine is the Nikon 10.5mm

http://www.fotoriesel.com.au/shop/images/nikon_10.5_mm.jpg

[SAID]

GODDAMN.
Thats hot.
But I totally feel you on the cheap one, that's what I'm rocking right now hahaha
But word, it doesn't look too bad on skate shots and all, but imagine with a 10.5 or such how much sicker it would be.



Now compare to my 10.5

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/2576/dsc0102s.jpg

yummy.

[PERVERTO]

Cos it's a prime the optical quality is amazing. You can focus to within centimeters. Fuck your american ancient system of measurement, you can work it out.

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/548/dsc0182b.jpg

[SAID]

Canada ftw !

[-Empty-Can-]

So i'm thinking about printing these photos. What do you think?
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww131/pics4bscience/citystrretsLRMedium.jpg
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww131/pics4bscience/mt-elliotLRMedium.jpg
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww131/pics4bscience/detroit-LRMedium.jpg
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww131/pics4bscience/paradiseLR2.jpg
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww131/pics4bscience/detroitMedium.jpg

[-Empty-Can-]

http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww131/pics4bscience/IMG_8357.jpg
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww131/pics4bscience/IMG_8358.jpg
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww131/pics4bscience/IMG_8359.jpg
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww131/pics4bscience/IMG_8360.jpg
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww131/pics4bscience/IMG_8361.jpg
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww131/pics4bscience/IMG_8362.jpg

[PERVERTO]

So i'm thinking about printing these photos. What do you think?
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww131/pics4bscience/citystrretsLRMedium.jpg
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww131/pics4bscience/mt-elliotLRMedium.jpg
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww131/pics4bscience/detroit-LRMedium.jpg
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww131/pics4bscience/paradiseLR2.jpg
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww131/pics4bscience/detroitMedium.jpg

I would only print the Who is detroit one.

[SAID]

Put those 6 as one.

[-Empty-Can-]

That my favorite too. I sent it to a few people and they liked it alot too.

I might print the one of the street with the leaves too. The colors are nice. All natural

[PERVERTO]

id nbump up the contrast a bit.

[-Empty-Can-]

like this? Added a little hue too

http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww131/pics4bscience/WhoIsDetroit-.jpg

[SAID]

No, make blacks blacker.
Contrast *****

[-Empty-Can-]

I did do that. Compare that one to the one in my sig. There is a difference.

[-Empty-Can-]

http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww131/pics4bscience/woahhh.jpg

this came out really cool .I just randomly put everything all the way up and put one bar all the way down.

[PERVERTO]

ew ew ew no. no hue. no colour fucking with. just add some blacks

[PERVERTO]

Wow, nearly lost my entire photobackup and 600gb of movies and 170gb of music.

for once, my pc saved my life. fuck knows why it fucked out on my mac.

[SAID]

I was lucky enough too man.
I shoved everything on fucking data dvds and was lucky enough to restore everything.
And I can clearly see theres a difference but it can be so much better than that.
Keep fucking around with Lightroom and you'll get good results.

[UpstateHate585]

If you are looking to print high quality ink jet prints at poster size, d40 isn't the best. But realistically how often are you going to be doing this. For a simple laser jet print at poster size d40 is fine. The quality won't matter too much.

well i probably would do it every once in a while. and would most likely take them somewhere that does big prints. i dont have a printer.

[kmcdon3960]

emptycan, you still got the raw file for the who is detroit? you might be able to save the sky a little bit.
if you do, then try (before you desaturate)
1: curves
2: photo filter>red
3:desaturate
4:bright/contrast

I usually do these in layer masks so they can be adjusted independently throughout the entire process.

[Peter Reveen]

wide angle lens for my rebel is 1400$
http://i36.tinypic.com/4trchu.jpg
http://i36.tinypic.com/34rd2k4.jpg
http://i35.tinypic.com/2u8j5zq.jpg
http://i33.tinypic.com/drfrrm.jpg
FUUck that

[PERVERTO]

Canon. Why not buy a tokina 11-16 for 600$?

[PERVERTO]

Or go back and retake the shot. shoot in raw and on a tripod and take multiple exposures

make it epic

[Peter Reveen]

cause i was naive when i bought it should done research on other dslr's but it only cost 650 at the time fresh out the box and with the lens

[kmcdon3960]

sigma 10-20 can be had for under $500, stopped down it's as good as the canon.
I was literally a couple feet from this wall when I shot this. I'm assuming you're looking at L glass for that price, but the ef-s 10-22 is only $750. The ef-s won't mount on a full frame body, but the sigma will mount, but not give a full image (you can always center crop though)

http://images.rapidhate.org/d/3860-5/20080210_IMG_661.jpg

[kmcdon3960]

http://rapidhate.org/images/20091030154313_20090303_img_726.jpg

Here's another reason you should get a superwide, you can get whacky angles. The sign and trees and fence were all straight up from the ground, but I was literally about 6cm away from this sign when I shot it, note how everything is twisted and skewed. Nothing like a fisheye, but still awesome

[reepa]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2536/4016610035_d5068a37ca_o.jpg



How did she get this effect?
I wanna give it a bash

[UpstateHate585]

my guess is either an older camera or some kinda photoshop/camera effect. i think gamma ray correction in photoshop can do something like that. idk tho.

[reepa]

cheers i'll have a butchers

[reepa]

Can't find Gamma thingy

[PERVERTO]

Isn't it just desaturated a little? You can mess with colours in the curves section of photoshop and create whatever colour effect you want.

[ShIfTeD]

question on the lense distortion corrector in photoshop

do you click it and does it automaticaly correct it or does it give you the slider to fix the distortion yourself?

the version i have (elements 6) it gives you the slider menu

[reepa]

I think you might be right AK !

[Werse]

Wait a minute... perverto is AK?

[PERVERTO]

Correct.

[PERVERTO]

question on the lense distortion corrector in photoshop

do you click it and does it automaticaly correct it or does it give you the slider to fix the distortion yourself?

the version i have (elements 6) it gives you the slider menu

Yeah, there are sliders that correct the distortion, and you always have to crop a bit afterwards, so take that into consideration when taking the photograph.

[Werse]

Has anyone used one of these, they look kinda fun.
http://www.lensbaby.com/lenses.php

[PERVERTO]

Tilt shift lenses. Another novelty unless used properly in architecture photography.

[Werse]

No its not perspective you focus by tilting the lens and switch out the glass for different effects, its seems pretty cool for the $200

[ShIfTeD]

perverto's ak?

oh my god, i had no idea

its all making sence now, the fisheye party shots, the pictures of shit in nz, whoa!

:D

yeah, ok..i didnt know what was up, because i figured there would be a major variation from cs4 to elements 6

as far as i know, there arent many differences

...thanks

[ShIfTeD]

forest gump is the best fucking movie of all time

[Jenkins.]

i like that broads titties
am i a pedophile?

[Thrice]

i like that broads titties
am i a pedophile?

Nah, it's fair game.

[ShIfTeD]

anyone running through a field of tall grass like that is just asking for a dick

[PERVERTO]

http://kevincameras.com/gallery/albums/albvo39/leica_m4_p_gold_e288_3.jpg
8000$US

[funhouseXcast]

I'm hitting up an abandoned asylum for a shoot tommorrow with some friends.

[dinedgc]

these are from a school project, we had to pick a product and take 6 pics from the same angle, but we could change the lighting and backdrop as well as stick a sheet of plastic under for a reflection
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a377/blured09/DSC_0006.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a377/blured09/DSC_0014.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a377/blured09/DSC_0024-1.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a377/blured09/DSC_0030.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a377/blured09/DSC_0046.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a377/blured09/DSC_0049-1.jpg
and i was fuckin around one night with my door
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a377/blured09/DSC_0022.jpg

[dinedgc]

i should've used this one instead of that second to last one in that set, but oh well too late
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a377/blured09/DSC_0056.jpg

[UpstateHate585]

so i posted some pics in a photography forum and a lot of the ones ppl like here or in person, they hate on lol. either they really are bad or they are snobby. lol

i cant wait to get my damn camera. thinking of getting a lense that's good for portraits (reading on ken rockwell) or a wide angle.

anybody try flipping the glass over to make a fisheye thing? saw it on youtube

[Werse]

I almost bought this but I dont have the cash.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Nikon-D80-Body-Only_W0QQitemZ190345504834QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDigit al_Cameras?hash=item2c5179e842#ht_500wt_1182
Great deal for anyone whos looking.

[UpstateHate585]

shittt. i know im gonna get a new one torn for this, but i have been looking into other cameras other than the d40. i was set on the d40 until i really started thinking about the lense compatibility and stuff. are there any good lenses out there that i might need/want that i wont have to manually focus? im only really concerned about autofocus when im shooting shows. i wont have time to manually focus.

[PERVERTO]

Get a d80 or d90 then. gonna be more saving though. Things like cheap 50mm lenses for portraits and older cheap lenses are manual focus.

[sHoRTiE...]

anybody shot with a kodak disc 3500?

[PERVERTO]

Wow, no. Looks fucking cool though although I doubt you could find the disks these days?

[UpstateHate585]

Get a d80 or d90 then. gonna be more saving though. Things like cheap 50mm lenses for portraits and older cheap lenses are manual focus.

i was looking into a d80. i dont mind manual focus for portraits. i am just tryin to think of shows and stuff. will i really need any other lens for them? a fisheye is cool but not needed. what kind of lenses do i have to look for for the d40? what ones have the motor in them?

[PERVERTO]

ANY lens that says AF-S in it's name. or G. Anything that says D needs a motor to autofocus. Basically any lens that has a little switch on the side that says A or M will work on your D40.

[UpstateHate585]

alright thanks bro. you've been a big help. sorry for being a pain. what was the main point you recommended the d40 for shows for? faster flash sync speed or smthing?

[UpstateHate585]

hmm gonna keep my eye on this

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nikon-D80-10-2-Megapixel-Extras-NR_W0QQitemZ170399570992QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDigital _Cameras?hash=item27ac9b1c30

[Werse]

D40 battery grip for $35.
Not bad...
http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/8b/69/a221e03ae7a0db271924f110.L.jpg

[PERVERTO]

alright thanks bro. you've been a big help. sorry for being a pain. what was the main point you recommended the d40 for shows for? faster flash sync speed or smthing?

Yeah, fast flash sync speed. Faster than any other nikon even the D3.

can use flash at up to 1/500th shutter speed which is pretty fast!

[PERVERTO]

subtle use of HDR and a wacky wide angle lens, 11mm.

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/3087/darkand4moretonemappedc.jpg

[UpstateHate585]

ive been looking into the d80 which i think has a flash sync speed of up to 1/200. it seems a lot from the d40. but i remember perve tellin me that if i get some crap the suffices but will want something different, i will end up spending twice the cash getting the nicer stuff in the future.

im thinking i will eventually need some nicer lenses and most of the ones that autofocus with the d40 are hella expensive. does flash sync speed matter that much?

also, i am trying to prioritize what lenses i'm gonna want in the future so i can start looking now. i will most likely be shooting band promos, portraits, and live shows. seeing as im still learning about what does what maybe you guys could help me pick out some lenses.

for live shots i figure i would want a faster lens, i saw a 50mm f1.8. would that be good? im still kinda lost on the "mm" stuff. and band promos i would use the same lens as the portrait/model shots and possibly a fisheye.

sorry for nagging, just trying to make sure i get the right shit

edit-perve, let me come live with you? haha looks nice as hell there

[PERVERTO]

Flash sync matters if you want to freeze movement at night. (EG, freezing a singer jumping into the crowd or something) If you have a slow sync speed, he will be a blurr when using flash. So it does matter to you. Nikon from now on will NOT be making lenses that are not compatible with the D40. So don't worry about that. EVery new lens from now on will be completely compatible with your D40, even the pro lenses. It's only lenses from back in the day that won't auto focus. But auto focus isn't everything anyway, it's a luxury. If I were you, I'd buy a D40, keep the kit 18-55mm, and buy a 50mm f/1.8AF-S for low light when you can afford it.
That is all you need for now. Once you understand more about photography and why you need a better camera, you can get a better camera. No point getting something you know nothing about.

I'm not answering anymore. Buy a D40. If you are that cut up about it, buy a D90, but you will sacrifice your maximum shutter speed for use with flash if you do so.

[UpstateHate585]

haha thanks sorry for the constant questions man. and thanks for answering them. Also thanks on clearing up the lens thing.i just didnt want something that might limit me in the future.

[PERVERTO]

Nope it won't. Canon's EOS system was good from the start and had the focus motor on all its lenses, but it fucked over anyone that owned their manual focus system and had to sell all their gear and switch over. Nikon chose to keep their manual focus lenses being compatible, and that is why only now are they switching over to the canon system.

[UpstateHate585]

alright cool. everyone i see uses the rebels it seems.

i was looking for the 50mm f1.8af-s but only found this:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/585343-USA/Nikon_2180_AF_S_Nikkor_50mm_f_1_4G.html

which is 1.4
am i not looking hard enough?

edit- found this too:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/606792-GREY/Nikon_2183_AF_S_Nikkor_35mm_f_1_8G.html

[PERVERTO]

The 35mm F/1.8G is the one you want. Save for that.

[PERVERTO]

http://shashinki.com/shop/images/VOIGT-BSS-R2A-MBLK.jpg

Bought this as a beat up camera for my new years / holiday period. Fuck carrying the leica round when im constantly drunk.

Found one used for 250$US. What a steal!

[UpstateHate585]

i love the way that and the leicas look. they have a simple yet classy look

[kmcdon3960]

you got the auto?
I dropped one of my electro 35's on the pavement when I was shooting a show tonight
everything seems to be fine though, tough bastards those cameras

[PERVERTO]

Yeah gonna risk it and get the A.

[dinedgc]

alright cool. everyone i see uses the rebels it seems.

i was looking for the 50mm f1.8af-s but only found this:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/585343-USA/Nikon_2180_AF_S_Nikkor_50mm_f_1_4G.html

which is 1.4
am i not looking hard enough?

edit- found this too:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/606792-GREY/Nikon_2183_AF_S_Nikkor_35mm_f_1_8G.html

i've been looking a the 1.8af-s and they're cheaper on amazon.com dude, hit it up

[UpstateHate585]

yeah thanks. i was just posting the link to show what i could find. i figured they were cheaper somewhere

[UpstateHate585]

so this will sound dumb, but someone want to clear up what the "mm" means when looking at a lens? i got the f1.8,f2.8 ect.

[||BREAD||]

millimeter lol

[UpstateHate585]

well i knew that haha. but what does that mean? like if a lens is 18-55mm what does that mean? im know its retarded lol

[iWrite.]

how wide it is.?

[iWrite.]

perverttoooo, where in nz do you live? that balcony loookkkkkks like it has a crazy view.

[PERVERTO]

I live in Auckland, the biggest city, and one of the biggest cities in the world by the physical area it takes up.

Upstate mm basically determines how much a lens zooms or how wide it is. 50mm is known as the standard focal length cos it basically represents what the eye sees without zooming or going wide. anything above 50mm is a telephoto, eg 70mm 135mm, and anything below 50mm is regarded as a wide angle, eg 35mm 28mm 21mm and so on. I personally find 50mm is too long for me, so I treat my standard lens as a 35mm. But thats personal choice.


But then you get into DX crop factors vs FX full frame, and then shit REALLY gets confusing. It's even more confusing with canon. But thats for another day.

[thesecks]

http://i37.tinypic.com/29fy25c.jpg

I've said it once, I'll say it again. Fire is cool as fuck.


testings done, ready for the abandoned house fire shit

[PERVERTO]

Thats ill.

[kmcdon3960]

Our halloween party was profesionally catered with weed food. The dishes had labels which denoted what was weed and what was non-weed. That's just how we eat in philly.


http://images.rapidhate.org/d/5048-1/img009.jpg
http://images.rapidhate.org/d/5051-1/img010.jpg
http://images.rapidhate.org/d/5066-1/img019.jpg
http://images.rapidhate.org/d/5057-1/img016.jpg
http://images.rapidhate.org/d/5069-1/img022.jpg
http://images.rapidhate.org/d/5072-1/img023.jpg
http://images.rapidhate.org/d/5081-1/img026.jpg
http://images.rapidhate.org/d/5075-1/img024.jpg

[thesecks]

http://i37.tinypic.com/29fy25c.jpg

I've said it once, I'll say it again. Fire is cool as fuck.


testings done, ready for the abandoned house fire shit

bringing it across,



nice, rolling deep in the nissan cube?

[PERVERTO]

Fuck film is so so dope.

[PERVERTO]

Where you get your shit developped kmc?

[-Empty-Can-]

I got some nice pics this week. I got to use some sweet cameras too. Upload pics later

[Robbie P]

definitely busted the shit out of one my cameras this weekend. slipped with it inside my coat and fat landed on it. the lens is totally blow out to one side, all the elements are broken. the camera's meter doesn't work anymore and the rewind is broken.

[SAID]

I'm pretty sure that's a Scion Secks.
But the one of the guy singing is a fucking good shot!

[ManFromDaMoon]

old shit. havent posted many pictures so kinda felt obligated.

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy199/manfromthemoon/matt124-1.jpg

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy199/manfromthemoon/matt126-1.jpg

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy199/manfromthemoon/matt127-1.jpg

gettin my d40 for christmas. only 2months. kmc what band is playing in that one picture?

[-Empty-Can-]

me..
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww131/pics4bscience/Hockey006.jpg
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww131/pics4bscience/Hockey008.jpg
friend...
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww131/pics4bscience/Hockey170.jpg

[PERVERTO]

Jesus. How old are you

[-Empty-Can-]

I'm only 14

Thats not me playing hockey btw

[Robbie P]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3454/3946431085_bf275182b6.jpg

i actually think the nikon 10.5mm fisheye is a pretty fast lens , i shot this at like 1200 ISO with a 2 second exposure handheld and it was dark as fuck outside. the lens is fucking sweet when you first get it.

[PERVERTO]

It's 2.8, which is pretty fast.

[kmcdon3960]

perv, I develop it in my kitchen, I have to wait until night, and then go into the hallway to load the film with all the doors shut, it's the only time I can get it totally dark.

thx

[-Empty-Can-]

a lamp
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww131/pics4bscience/Hockey002.jpg
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww131/pics4bscience/Hockey004.jpgNot my house

http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww131/pics4bscience/Hockey194.jpgBetter picture i took of this place. Need to edit the colors a little.

[UpstateHate585]

I live in Auckland, the biggest city, and one of the biggest cities in the world by the physical area it takes up.

Upstate mm basically determines how much a lens zooms or how wide it is. 50mm is known as the standard focal length cos it basically represents what the eye sees without zooming or going wide. anything above 50mm is a telephoto, eg 70mm 135mm, and anything below 50mm is regarded as a wide angle, eg 35mm 28mm 21mm and so on. I personally find 50mm is too long for me, so I treat my standard lens as a 35mm. But thats personal choice.


But then you get into DX crop factors vs FX full frame, and then shit REALLY gets confusing. It's even more confusing with canon. But thats for another day.


gotcha. thanks man

[NoWorries]

perv, I develop it in my kitchen, I have to wait until night, and then go into the hallway to load the film with all the doors shut, it's the only time I can get it totally dark.

thx

Do you also print your own pictures? Although a number of them are really nice photos, i couldn't help noticing a number of dust particles and hairs in the images. This error is most commonly found in the printing process (as you probably know) and can be fixed by dusting your negatives before printing, or dusting your enlarging equipment.

Cheers,

[kmcdon3960]

Nah, I don't print, just straight to the scanner, but my house has a couple cats and we smoke all the time so there's all kinds of shit floating around in the air that gets stuck on the negs. I've been having a problem with water spots, even though I'm using wetter.

I will definetly try dusting them off next time I shoot a roll, any particular method you recommend?
thx