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ares
03-25-2010, 11:20 AM
70-200 2.8

UpstateHate585
03-25-2010, 11:57 AM
why not just get this?

http://www.sigmaphoto.com/shop/200-500mm-f28-apo-ex-dg-sigma

lol

.A.K.4.7.
03-25-2010, 02:18 PM
70-200 2.8

Yep, I'm cautious bout the quality of sigma shit though. Anyone own anything sigma?

ares
03-25-2010, 02:40 PM
nope, I've heard some pretty good things about their primes but I'm not too sure about the zooms. I'm really curious about their new 85 1.4 but its not stocked yet plus 85 on my crop sensor is too long for me. Can't wait to get a new body

BazookaTooth
03-25-2010, 03:38 PM
that hand reminds me of the system of a down cd or t shirt out there if any u guys seen it

-Empty-Can-
03-25-2010, 03:42 PM
^Yea. I think it was they're first self titled album. I was gonna mention that but I'm too lazy.

.A.K.4.7.
03-25-2010, 04:09 PM
nope, I've heard some pretty good things about their primes but I'm not too sure about the zooms. I'm really curious about their new 85 1.4 but its not stocked yet plus 85 on my crop sensor is too long for me. Can't wait to get a new body

I wasn't able to find an 85 on the sigma website. I'm interested so long as it it sharp at least in the centre wide open.

ares
03-25-2010, 04:26 PM
http://www.dpreview.com/news/1002/10022015sigma85mm.asp

it was announced late february, I think around the same time they announced the new 70-200 2.8 stabilized, which I also can't find on sigma's site. I'm assuming they'll price the 85 round $1000, so for nikon shooters it might be worth it to dish out an extra couple hundred on nikons 85 1.4, but since canon is either 1.8 or 1.2 the sigma sounds like a nice in between for those who can't dish out $2500 on the 1.2.

.A.K.4.7.
03-25-2010, 04:35 PM
I'll wait for the stabilized then.

kmcdon3960
03-25-2010, 05:13 PM
ak, I have a sigma 10-20mm. People always complain about the build quality of sigmas, but my one sigma lens is tough as a rock. It's tougher then any of my EF lenses, besides the L. It takes nice pictures too (I think.)
Pic related, it's from a sigma.

http://rapidhate.org/images/20091115201918_img_8409.jpg

.A.K.4.7.
03-25-2010, 05:23 PM
ak, I have a sigma 10-20mm. People always complain about the build quality of sigmas, but my one sigma lens is tough as a rock. It's tougher then any of my EF lenses, besides the L. It takes nice pictures too (I think.)
Pic related, it's from a sigma.

http://rapidhate.org/images/20091115201918_img_8409.jpg

Yeah, except canon lenses feel cheap as well !!!

-Dank-DK-
03-25-2010, 06:46 PM
ok guys im new to taking photos. so im tryin to get some thing in focus like
i want the background out of focus and the object thats closer in focus can some one tell me how
im useing a shity canon s2 is

VAsucks
03-25-2010, 08:15 PM
i dont really know what a canon s2 is
but for shallow depth of field (which is what you described) you use apertures with low numbers like 2.8 etc.

lakim shabazz
03-25-2010, 08:21 PM
look for the flower (macro)

BazookaTooth
03-25-2010, 08:35 PM
lol buddy in the back round

-Dank-DK-
03-25-2010, 08:40 PM
i dont really know what a canon s2 is
but for shallow depth of field (which is what you described) you use apertures with low numbers like 2.8 etc.

is that a setting or some thing i have to buy
and if it is a setting where do i find it lol

kmcdon3960
03-25-2010, 08:46 PM
for a canon s2, it's the bottom button on the left side of the lens. On a camera like that you gotta get stupid close to the object to make the DOF go out. You aren't gonna be getting shallow dof on portriats.

-Dank-DK-
03-25-2010, 08:47 PM
dam well its ok im gettin a nikon d3000
can i have any advice on that cam if i just want to start gettin in to this

kmcdon3960
03-25-2010, 08:59 PM
rtfm.

AK, I got my new point&shoot camera today. You'll like it, it's the kind that says DC VARIO SUMMICRON on the lens......... Can't wait to get it out of the house :D
Snapshit for talking, direct out of the camera. This thing shoots RAW, but with the dynamic b&w settings, there's no need.


http://images.rapidhate.org/d/5686-1/d3200-120--1-2.jpg

One Evil
03-25-2010, 09:03 PM
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/5703/dscf4422.jpg (http://img267.imageshack.us/i/dscf4422.jpg/)

-Dank-DK-
03-25-2010, 09:27 PM
ak, I have a sigma 10-20mm. People always complain about the build quality of sigmas, but my one sigma lens is tough as a rock. It's tougher then any of my EF lenses, besides the L. It takes nice pictures too (I think.)
Pic related, it's from a sigma.

http://rapidhate.org/images/20091115201918_img_8409.jpg

does he onlt have one arm

kmcdon3960
03-25-2010, 09:52 PM
heh, that's a girl.
she was in a mosh pit so her other arm was behind her.

SAID
03-25-2010, 09:53 PM
adams apple?

-Dank-DK-
03-25-2010, 10:00 PM
really a girl
welll ummmmmm im sorry

Backalley Abortion Doctor
03-25-2010, 10:04 PM
I don't think it's an adam's apple, it kind of looks like a really large zit.

UpstateHate585
03-25-2010, 10:32 PM
hahaha when your zit gets mistaken for an adams apple, you got some issues haha.

dank, the d3000 is an awesome camera for someone in your position that is starting out. I would read up on the different terminology and stuff pertaining to photography. Check out the book "understanding exposure"

edit- has anyone seen this shit? fucking amazing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyxDBRnuL3s

.A.K.4.7.
03-25-2010, 10:44 PM
Seriously, pay someone, design isn't your thing yet.

And don't buy a D3000, buy a D5000 or a D60.

UpstateHate585
03-25-2010, 10:52 PM
lol whats wrong with that one? All the photographers cards i have been handed are usually along the lines of the one i had with the huge picture on it. o well, its a card, it's not super important. I just wanted something to start spreading my name by giving some to a friend whos portraits im doing to give to her friends and such.

the d3000 isnt really bad at all for someone who is looking to get into photography and isn't sure if they will stick with it.

anyyyway, did you check out that cs5 video? it looks amazing

kmcdon3960
03-25-2010, 10:52 PM
I'm not sure if that content aware fill business is legit or not.
If it's real, that'd be pretty.... neat... I guess, if you're into that sort of thing.

ares
03-25-2010, 11:15 PM
its basically a clone stamp with auto sampling, sounds pretty feasible to me

UpstateHate585
03-25-2010, 11:16 PM
looks like it can save you a bunch of time. and you don't have to worry as much about say powerlines and shit

theorist
03-25-2010, 11:42 PM
blah

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2757/4463464201_bd94fbe54b.jpg

UpstateHate585
03-26-2010, 01:22 AM
alright, i promise this will be the last time i post this shit.

http://i44.tinypic.com/2eb9ybk.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/14cz5tv.jpg

and a pic for the card posts

http://i43.tinypic.com/2cr4m8i.jpg

.A.K.4.7.
03-26-2010, 08:28 AM
Why the serif font? Do you know what a serif is? Why the choice of colour? Why the rounded edges?

UpstateHate585
03-26-2010, 10:21 AM
It was a font on a website I saw and liked. I also like the colors and the rounded corners imo help increase the longevity of the card cuz usually the cornes get fucked up first.

One Evil
03-26-2010, 10:49 AM
has anyone seen this shit? fucking amazing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyxDBRnuL3s

this was pretty interesting actually :D

lakim shabazz
03-26-2010, 10:57 AM
looks good upstate
http://i41.tinypic.com/2qx9amc.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/oqzjtl.jpg

UpstateHate585
03-26-2010, 11:01 AM
this was pretty interesting actually :D

lol i guess its been announced to be released on april 12th

One Evil
03-26-2010, 11:06 AM
how much u think that programs gonna cost?.. or i can just torrent it and steal some serial keys but i doubts that will work for awhile.

UpstateHate585
03-26-2010, 11:12 AM
You will probably be able to steal it after some time. It probably won't be cheap. They might offer a student discount or something. This might be the one software I actually buy instead of steal lol. I want to make sure I get the whole thing legit and can get everything out of it. my cs4 download is alright but isn't the full program.

thesecks
03-26-2010, 01:49 PM
im gunna hope all you cunts have a large monitor

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4007/4465473868_11b6f8e335_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2760/4464693917_4f9c21a897_b.jpg

favourite?

zio
03-26-2010, 01:53 PM
bay area is really nice

thats that really famous street lol

i like the one below
_______________________________________

on a different note, do you guys know of a site that gives reviews of lenses from different manufacturers?
i just wanna read up on the price vs quality...if theyre even worth it etc
i know DP review does but pretty limited

RFI. SPit
03-26-2010, 01:54 PM
liking that first one

Baron
03-26-2010, 03:49 PM
bay area is really nice

thats that really famous street lol

i like the one below
_______________________________________

on a different note, do you guys know of a site that gives reviews of lenses from different manufacturers?
i just wanna read up on the price vs quality...if theyre even worth it etc
i know DP review does but pretty limited

You can see 3-4 people taking pictures

kmcdon3960
03-26-2010, 04:21 PM
Got this in the mail today, I'm pretty pissed.

http://darkstar.rapidhate.org/viviwtf.avi

.A.K.4.7.
03-26-2010, 08:00 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2357/2668309900_b7af623a54_b.jpg


If you can work your way around this camera, then you can use any camera.

ShIfTeD
03-26-2010, 10:22 PM
hey ak, question...i remember seeing a pic on here a long time ago that you took and it was the reflection of you off your computer but there was no camera in the reflection, how did you do that?

One Evil
03-26-2010, 10:52 PM
timer set.. or edited it out manually.. i would think..

.A.K.4.7.
03-26-2010, 11:54 PM
hey ak, question...i remember seeing a pic on here a long time ago that you took and it was the reflection of you off your computer but there was no camera in the reflection, how did you do that?


Someone else took it out of the frame of the monitor.

UpstateHate585
03-27-2010, 12:42 AM
meh

http://i41.tinypic.com/2116x44.jpg

Werse
03-27-2010, 06:27 AM
After being postponed twice, today is finally the day I get to go shoot that rail jam.

Loki X Sho
03-27-2010, 10:32 AM
http://i42.tinypic.com/11qu83a.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/14bib79.jpg

funhouseXcast
03-27-2010, 11:39 AM
i downloaded photomatix and i can't seem to make it work.

kmcdon3960
03-27-2010, 02:58 PM
http://images.rapidhate.org/d/5689-1/lumixleica-1.jpg

http://images.rapidhate.org/d/5692-1/lumixleica-2.jpg

I wish my flash wasn't broken, the shadow kind of pisses me off in the 2nd one. Still getting used to this little tiny camera. Love the 24mm summicron though.

UpstateHate585
03-27-2010, 03:17 PM
im thinkin of picking up a point and shoot. the nikon s8000 looks really nice. and actually theres a new kodak coming out thats pretty nice as well

kmcdon3960
03-27-2010, 03:23 PM
http://images.rapidhate.org/d/5695-1/lumixleica-1-4.jpg

Get a canon S90. It shoots raw and has a pretty good lens. There's also ones like the Sigma DP1 and possibly some ricoh ones that have aps-c sensors.
Samsung is coming out with one that has a f/1.8 lens. I got the lumix lx3 (d-lux 4) because of the 24mm f/2 lens. It's also a little tiny thing.

UpstateHate585
03-27-2010, 03:25 PM
yeah, im just tryin to find shit i get at a discount haha. im thinking about getting one of these too. looks pretty dope

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4Rh4GOxA6Y&feature=related

.A.K.4.7.
03-27-2010, 05:46 PM
No I'd get a G10 over a S90, you have more control.

Aska.
03-27-2010, 05:57 PM
meh

http://i41.tinypic.com/2116x44.jpg

trailor rat

cpyrte
03-27-2010, 06:03 PM
Here's some pictures taken from my Diana Mini (I like old looking pictures)

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k67/Jaysjems87/232323232fp63268nu55896552579948a42.jpg

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k67/Jaysjems87/232323232fp6327-nu55896552579948a42.jpg

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k67/Jaysjems87/232323232fp63273nu55896552579948a42.jpg

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k67/Jaysjems87/232323232fp63254nu55896552579948a42.jpg

kmcdon3960
03-27-2010, 06:11 PM
No I'd get a G10 over a S90, you have more control.

They got the g11 now, shit is hot. I was looking into getting that, They reduced the megapixels down to 10 or something to make it less noisy at high iso.

Those cameras are pretty sexy.

http://www.radiantlite.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/canon-g11-s90-panasonic-lx3-top-comparison-250x300.jpg

Thrice
03-27-2010, 08:35 PM
Anyone else stoked out of their minds for the new Photoshop Content-Aware fill tool from Photoshop CS5?

kmcdon3960
03-27-2010, 08:40 PM
Not particularly, I'm of the opinion that if you have to clone objects out of your pictures, you're doing it wrong.

Inb4 shitstorm.

Werse
03-27-2010, 10:09 PM
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4028/4467553167_3d739bd619.jpg http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4048/4468326916_3e4a9f4841.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2723/4468332572_5cbd92252c.jpg http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2703/4467550493_153cae74d5.jpg

.A.K.4.7.
03-27-2010, 10:59 PM
They got the g11 now, shit is hot. I was looking into getting that, They reduced the megapixels down to 10 or something to make it less noisy at high iso.

Those cameras are pretty sexy.

http://www.radiantlite.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/canon-g11-s90-panasonic-lx3-top-comparison-250x300.jpg

I just hate that swivly screen. Its just uglier.

UpstateHate585
03-27-2010, 11:02 PM
Wellwhat if u see an awesome shot but its ruined by powerlines or some shit? It can be very useful. I think I'm gonna use my film camera more often. I do want a point and shoot though.

kmcdon3960
03-27-2010, 11:50 PM
how'd you manage to double post 38 minutes apart from each other?

I still wouldn't use it, I was taught on film and never had the option to photoshop stuff out of the pictures. I'm sure it's great for "pros" who want to churn out shots in no time quick, but I feel like it takes from the art of it.

UpstateHate585
03-28-2010, 12:37 AM
haha i was on my phone and it was being gay. my bad. i hear you, but it deff helps open up what can be shot without having to worry about man made obstructions. Post Processing has always been around.

kmcdon3960
03-28-2010, 01:18 AM
you can eat shit as far as I'm concerned. You don't know me or anyone I hang out with.

+1 good response

As far as the photo goes, It seems a little overprocessed, maybe back off the contrast a little? Try looking at some B&W film shots in various conditions, and try to make it look more like that.

UpstateHate585
03-28-2010, 01:32 AM
I was tryin to get something like clay enos. Really just messing with high pass filters and stuff i agree i took it a little far. i was posting something for all the talking i have been doing. thanks though

this is a shot by clay enos
http://www.chriskohler.biz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/enos_11.jpg


bored at 1am

http://i44.tinypic.com/20zv781.jpg

RFI. SPit
03-28-2010, 01:32 AM
Here's some pictures taken from my Diana Mini (I like old looking pictures)

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k67/Jaysjems87/232323232fp63268nu55896552579948a42.jpg





http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k67/Jaysjems87/232323232fp63254nu55896552579948a42.jpg


Nice signature! I have a tattoo of that quote

Sp!ff
03-28-2010, 02:00 AM
just ran across this site the other day. super sick, super cheap. check it if you dont have money for lenses, or you wanna try new shit out. heres the link:

http://www.borrowlenses.com/

some of my older low DoF pics for chat: (more to come)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4043/4468582127_69e0cbe252.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4020/4468581681_37ebce2770.jpg

UpstateHate585
03-28-2010, 02:34 AM
so i have been reading a bit on point and shoots. got it somewhat narrowed down to:

g10
lumix lx3
leica d-lux 4 (same as the lx3 basically)

maybe i should just not get one and just use the money towards a newer body or lens. shit idk. maybe i should just save for a better leica lol. smaller than a dslr and amazing pictures.

edit- fuck it, i can use the money for something better. 600 for a point and shoot seems ridiculous when i have a d40 lol

Sp!ff
03-28-2010, 02:38 AM
yo dude... i wouldnt buy anything but a sony or canon if its a point and shoot. they have awesome lenses and work great in low/hi level light

as for dslrs... check out nikon 5Ds and Canon eos 7D on ebay... both super great, and getting cheaper everyday. (5d is a little more pro, btw)


so i have been reading a bit on point and shoots. got it somewhat narrowed down to:

g10
lumix lx3
leica d-lux 4 (same as the lx3 basically)

maybe i should just not get one and just use the money towards a newer body or lens. shit idk. maybe i should just save for a better leica lol. smaller than a dslr and amazing pictures.

.A.K.4.7.
03-28-2010, 02:38 AM
how'd you manage to double post 38 minutes apart from each other?

I still wouldn't use it, I was taught on film and never had the option to photoshop stuff out of the pictures. I'm sure it's great for "pros" who want to churn out shots in no time quick, but I feel like it takes from the art of it.

Skillful cloning is an art in itself.

.A.K.4.7.
03-28-2010, 02:40 AM
yo dude... i wouldnt buy anything but a sony or canon if its a point and shoot. they have awesome lenses and work great in low/hi level light

as for dslrs... check out nikon 5Ds and Canon eos 7D on ebay... both super great, and getting cheaper everyday. (5d is a little more pro, btw)

What's a Nikon 5Ds?

UpstateHate585
03-28-2010, 02:41 AM
yo dude... i wouldnt buy anything but a sony or canon if its a point and shoot. they have awesome lenses and work great in low/hi level light

as for dslrs... check out nikon 5Ds and Canon eos 7D on ebay... both super great, and getting cheaper everyday. (5d is a little more pro, btw)

so you're telling me the panasonic lx3 and the leica d-lux 4 aren't worth looking at? I know what DSLR I want in the future...I think. I don't like canon dslrs so they are out of the question and I already have nikon lenses

.A.K.4.7.
03-28-2010, 02:41 AM
so i have been reading a bit on point and shoots. got it somewhat narrowed down to:

g10
lumix lx3
leica d-lux 4 (same as the lx3 basically)

maybe i should just not get one and just use the money towards a newer body or lens. shit idk. maybe i should just save for a better leica lol. smaller than a dslr and amazing pictures.

edit- fuck it, i can use the money for something better. 600 for a point and shoot seems ridiculous when i have a d40 lol

I don't know why you want a point and shoot when you own a D40. You will knock the leica off your list once you see the price. Go with the G10 if you really want one. I ONLY bought mine for going to concerts. Lumix's are great but if you're getting a point and shoot may as well get one that gives you control over the picture taking.

UpstateHate585
03-28-2010, 02:44 AM
I don't know why you want a point and shoot when you own a D40. You will knock the leica off your list once you see the price. Go with the G10 if you really want one. I ONLY bought mine for going to concerts.

the d40 can be a little bulky at times thats all. I think I'm gonna get a new body then maybe look into the lx3 or d-lux 4. they both look amazing and they might be cheaper when I get around to looking for a p&s. But I' really have no problem carrying my d40 around. I am gonna use my film slr a bit more as well which is smaller.

.A.K.4.7.
03-28-2010, 03:21 AM
the d40 can be a little bulky at times thats all. I think I'm gonna get a new body then maybe look into the lx3 or d-lux 4. they both look amazing and they might be cheaper when I get around to looking for a p&s. But I' really have no problem carrying my d40 around. I am gonna use my film slr a bit more as well which is smaller.

Buy a yashica.

funhouseXcast
03-28-2010, 09:32 AM
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4001/4470120768_46369c5686_o.jpg

padre

kmcdon3960
03-28-2010, 11:34 AM
upstate: you'd have to be a complete retard to buy a D-Lux 4. It's the same exact camera as the lx3, the only difference is the red dot on the front, that costs you $300 more.

It has full manual control and exposure compensation is as easy as the g10, It's got a joystick on the back that is for exposure compensation in program mode, and in manual mode it's for your shutter/aperture. But seriously, I'll punch you in the head if you buy a d-lux 4.

UpstateHate585
03-28-2010, 12:06 PM
Hahaha the only reason I would is to be able to say I have a leica lol. I knw they are basically the same lol. I'm gonna save for my d300s first I think

lakim shabazz
03-28-2010, 01:34 PM
http://i42.tinypic.com/1eqcsn.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/iqzjok.jpg

.A.K.4.7.
03-28-2010, 05:14 PM
ok seriously, what's a nikon 5d?

VAsucks
03-28-2010, 05:16 PM
got one of these from a thrift store today
pretty sure its broken though which is kind of a shame


http://www.kataan.org/gallery/d/18699-2/xa2.jpg

Sp!ff
03-28-2010, 05:31 PM
hahaha, fuck me... I kept refering to the Nikon D90 as a 5D... Canon mAkes the 5D. I use both a lot and still mix em up All the time. :P

http://www.nikonusa.com/Find-Your-Nikon/Product/Digital-SLR/25446/D90.html


ok seriously, what's a nikon 5d?

.A.K.4.7.
03-28-2010, 08:12 PM
Yeah the D90 is a great camera. I hear the Canons are superior in terms of moving picture, but I wouldn't know I couldn't care less about video. I bought my camera to take pictures.

kmcdon3960
03-28-2010, 08:20 PM
got one of these from a thrift store today
pretty sure its broken though which is kind of a shame


http://www.kataan.org/gallery/d/18699-2/xa2.jpg

I've got the regular XA with the rangefinder, it's a pretty awesome camera. What seems to be broken about it?

pic related, it's from my XA

http://images.rapidhate.org/d/5643-1/delta3200-3_001.jpg

dinedgc
03-28-2010, 09:07 PM
Yeah the D90 is a great camera.

hopefully the next camera i get..i'm a nikon whore, so what, they're the bee's knees

UpstateHate585
03-28-2010, 09:12 PM
the d90 is awesome. stopped into work today cuz we got like 14 new cameras and i really liked this one. and there was a new canon there as well. i think the sx210?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Panasonic+-+12.1-Megapixel+Digital+Camera+-+Black/9767132.p?id=1218170033004&skuId=9767132&st=panasonic%20lumix&cp=1&lp=3

funhouseXcast
03-28-2010, 09:27 PM
I hear the Canons are superior in terms of moving picture, but I wouldn't know I couldn't care less about video. I bought my camera to take pictures.

this.

VAsucks
03-28-2010, 10:46 PM
[QUOTE=kmcdon3960;1590020]I've got the regular XA with the rangefinder, it's a pretty awesome camera. What seems to be broken about it?

QUOTE]


the film advance crank wont turn, it also needs new batteries.
the whole thing seems to be in pretty bad shape but maybe i can salvage it
either way not bad for $5

fucked up the quote but you get the idea

ImageVerification
03-28-2010, 10:53 PM
going to lose my portrait virginity tomorrow :rolleyes:

i might look into the d90, i definitely gotta get myself a new camera.
the lack of a focus motor on my d60 is starting to irk me (starting to look for lenses) i'd probably end up with the d80 for a fraction of the price though.

weakfingers
03-28-2010, 10:53 PM
Im really diggin this from last page,
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4043/4468582127_69e0cbe252.jpg



a quick shot from a couple days ago,
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2731/4455886270_c424dce89d.jpg

Backalley Abortion Doctor
03-28-2010, 10:58 PM
How's the 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS that comes kit on the 50D?

For shooting portraits and architecture, primarily.

Sp!ff
03-28-2010, 11:04 PM
Canons rock, but i hate those pseudo-dslr cameras that companies like them and olympus make, with non-interchangeable lenses i do a lot of on-the-run shit, so a more compact camera is a nice option when i dont use my phone or slr. fits snugly in the side pouch of my pack. you lose some MP/zoom on this one by comparison, but its a great model to huck in your bag and the lens retracts into the body when not use, plus the same or better quality lens, check it:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Sony+-+Cyber-shot+10.2-Megapixel+Digital+Camera+-+Black/9517025.p?id=1218117940507&skuId=9517025&st=DSC-WX1&cp=1&lp=1



the d90 is awesome. stopped into work today cuz we got like 14 new cameras and i really liked this one. and there was a new canon there as well. i think the sx210?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Panasonic+-+12.1-Megapixel+Digital+Camera+-+Black/9767132.p?id=1218170033004&skuId=9767132&st=panasonic%20lumix&cp=1&lp=3

.A.K.4.7.
03-28-2010, 11:07 PM
going to lose my portrait virginity tomorrow :rolleyes:

i might look into the d90, i definitely gotta get myself a new camera.
the lack of a focus motor on my d60 is starting to irk me (starting to look for lenses) i'd probably end up with the d80 for a fraction of the price though.


You're on the right track.

.A.K.4.7.
03-28-2010, 11:09 PM
How's the 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS that comes kit on the 50D?

For shooting portraits and architecture, primarily.


It's a kit lens so it is not designed for either of those things specifically, it is long which is good for portraiture but it is not very fast, so you won't be able to get a short depth of field for facial blur etc, and it is not especially wide for architecture (Not that all interiors and exteriors should be shot ultra wide, cos it's not a realistic representation of what the eye sees.)

But either way it is a good 'cover the bases' lens, it's wide enough, long enough and fast enough for most things. But if you want specialised work, get specialised lenses. Eg a fast wide for architecture and a fast tele for portraiture. Look at fast 85mm primes for portraits and 10mm or so lenses for architecture.

Also, remember that a 28-135mm will become 42-202mm on a cropped sensor. So on a 50D it will not be wide at all. Look at the 18-105mm lenses designed for cropped sensor cameras, I dunno what canon calls them but for nikon it's called DX.

Backalley Abortion Doctor
03-28-2010, 11:12 PM
Yeah I'm just speaking in a general sense. A 'cover all bases' lens that will serve the primary purposes I want it to without being too atrocious is all I'm looking for

UpstateHate585
03-28-2010, 11:16 PM
Canons rock, but i hate those pseudo-dslr cameras that companies like them and olympus make, with non-interchangeable lenses i do a lot of on-the-run shit, so a more compact camera is a nice option when i dont use my phone or slr. fits snugly in the side pouch of my pack. you lose some MP/zoom on this one by comparison, but its a great model to huck in your bag and the lens retracts into the body when not use, plus the same or better quality lens, check it:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Sony+-+Cyber-shot+10.2-Megapixel+Digital+Camera+-+Black/9517025.p?id=1218117940507&skuId=9517025&st=DSC-WX1&cp=1&lp=1

the one i posted looks better to me, it can go full manual which i like.

this isnt really related, well kinda, i was browsing youtube and came across this. i liked the concept behind the video lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuLDB7uqLbg&feature=channel



you can always get the 50mm prime for portraits. im thinkin about it or the 35mm

.A.K.4.7.
03-28-2010, 11:21 PM
Yeah I'm just speaking in a general sense. A 'cover all bases' lens that will serve the primary purposes I want it to without being too atrocious is all I'm looking for

Most important thing I said was that it won't be 28mm on your 50D.

Backalley Abortion Doctor
03-28-2010, 11:22 PM
Thanks for the help

lakim shabazz
03-29-2010, 01:19 AM
any one wanna shine somelight on the differences between the xti and the d5000
http://i40.tinypic.com/10zcun6.jpg

Sp!ff
03-29-2010, 01:42 AM
the kinda fun i usually have with cameras...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2793/4471964707_1e581b9af6_b.jpg

love the light in this shot:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2731/4455886270_c424dce89d.jpg

.A.K.4.7.
03-29-2010, 03:37 AM
any one wanna shine somelight on the differences between the xti and the d5000
http://i40.tinypic.com/10zcun6.jpg

Another reason why canon's suck. They have different model names depending on what country you are in. What is an xti? a 1000D? 450D?

.A.K.4.7.
03-29-2010, 04:10 AM
A dope band flick, good concept, technically dope. Not all just standing. Playing with foreground and background. Awesome.

http://www.mrx.no/album222/groupfirefinalres.html

.A.K.4.7.
03-29-2010, 04:16 AM
Also these. James Hartley.

http://www.hartleyphoto.net/files/gimgs/4_img0496.jpg
http://www.hartleyphoto.net/files/gimgs/4_img2459.jpg

dope. Although I don't like how he has bumped up the sharpness so much.

thesecks
03-29-2010, 12:14 PM
still got his blog bookmarked

first one is fucking slick

iWrite.
03-29-2010, 01:16 PM
<3

UpstateHate585
03-29-2010, 03:21 PM
A dope band flick, good concept, technically dope. Not all just standing. Playing with foreground and background. Awesome.

http://www.mrx.no/album222/groupfirefinalres.html


i love these shots lol. from this one on they are awesome

http://www.mrx.no/album222/fightres.html

thesecks
03-29-2010, 03:47 PM
http://www.mrx.no/albums/album222/punchres.jpg

fuck yes, love this shot

-Dank-DK-
03-29-2010, 03:57 PM
http://i40.tinypic.com/104kqjc.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/10s9jkg.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/2s7w553.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/23idtl2.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/rh0jlt.jpg

so for some one with an ok cam and just startin how am i doing

UpstateHate585
03-29-2010, 04:03 PM
Having a nice camera doesn't make your photos better unless you know how to take photos (composition, exposure, and shit) dslrs make it easier, but you still have to have an eye for it. which can be learned and developed. that being said, i find most of them boring. the last one is alright.

b5200
03-29-2010, 04:25 PM
I'm a nature photographer and these are 2 of my favorites, I've currently got them entered in a photography contest. I'm expecting to take 1-3rd in the plants category and 1st in the 15 and under.
The other entries are at http://murrysvillephotocontest.blogspot.com/ if you want to judge for yourself.
http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss309/bs125588/IMG_0248.jpg

http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss309/bs125588/IMG_0185.jpg

One of my goals in photography is to take things in nature that are ugly at first glance and show the beauty in them.

ShIfTeD
03-29-2010, 04:46 PM
hartleys my idol...

on the real

BazookaTooth
03-29-2010, 05:33 PM
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo26/bigupsforyall/photography2/Picture423.jpg
every type of this one tree has had its bark eatin half way up.....
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo26/bigupsforyall/photography2/Picture421.jpg

.A.K.4.7.
03-29-2010, 05:49 PM
http://www.cameramate.com/images/01252010_203034-_IGP0176.JPG
http://www.cameramate.com/images/s_01252010_202950-_IGP0175.JPG
http://www.cameramate.com/images/01252010_203046-_IGP0177.JPG

ARRIVED ARRIVED ARRIVED LOVE LOVE LOVE

there is no camera better than this. i own the best camera in the world.

kmcdon3960
03-29-2010, 06:05 PM
break it in son, break it in. You're doing good things, but I'd hate to see you turn into one of those collectors that buy up all the leicas and dont' use them. They're assholes.

Werse
03-29-2010, 06:07 PM
Clean your sensor AK

.A.K.4.7.
03-29-2010, 06:30 PM
break it in son, break it in. You're doing good things, but I'd hate to see you turn into one of those collectors that buy up all the leicas and dont' use them. They're assholes.

I never leave home without my leica !!! Now I will never leave home with out both of my leicas! One with a fiddy with 100 film the other with a 35 and 400 film.

Those aren't my photos and shit yeah their sensor needs a clean.

One Evil
03-29-2010, 07:18 PM
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/9075/dscf4560.jpg (http://img94.imageshack.us/i/dscf4560.jpg/)

fucked around with this a few times..
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9319/dscf457911.jpg (http://img210.imageshack.us/i/dscf457911.jpg/)
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/3325/dscf45798.jpg (http://img249.imageshack.us/i/dscf45798.jpg/)
original^
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/1521/dscf45791.jpg (http://img136.imageshack.us/i/dscf45791.jpg/)
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/4025/dscf4561y.jpg (http://img269.imageshack.us/i/dscf4561y.jpg/)

.A.K.4.7.
03-29-2010, 08:08 PM
Ken Rockwell with good advice:

DX or Full-Frame?

I get asked this all the time, and the answer is simple.

The real reason anyone wants FX over DX, be it in Nikon, Canon, Sony, is to get a bigger viewfinder.

DX cameras have puny little viewfinders, while FX cameras have, overall, much bigger finders so you can see what you're doing. You don't get this reading the specifications; pick up a sample of each and look for yourself.

99% of the time, the results are technically indistinguishable from each other. That's not why you get full-frame. Let's be honest: few of us use ultra-high ISOs very often, and those who do would be better served using fast (f/1.4) lenses on DX instead of using slow (f/2.8 or slower) zooms on FX cameras.

If you're wondering if its worth it to go full-frame, ask yourself if you'd prefer a finder through which you can see better. That's 80% of the reason to go full frame.

kmcdon3960
03-29-2010, 08:54 PM
http://images.rapidhate.org/d/5698-1/lumixleica-1-5.jpg

I hear you m8, I don't plan on ever leaving the house without my lumix either.

Straight out of the camera, just resized. The dynamic b&w is amazing on this thing.

-Dank-DK-
03-29-2010, 09:03 PM
^^^^
what is that game looks fun

Backalley Abortion Doctor
03-29-2010, 09:05 PM
It looks like it'd be called 'slide the faucet knobs down the bowling lane in the middle of the pizza place.'

kmcdon3960
03-29-2010, 09:06 PM
Shuffleboard!!

Basically you throw these weighted pucks down the thing and try to get as many points as possible. You put little powdered glass beads on there to make it slippery.

.A.K.4.7.
03-29-2010, 09:11 PM
Weird snowy nations.

kmcdon3960
03-29-2010, 09:17 PM
It's kind of like this but on a table, and without sexy kiwi blondes.

http://www.odt.co.nz/files/story/2009/09/new_zealand_representative_brydie_donald_in_action _1436407177.jpg

.A.K.4.7.
03-29-2010, 09:26 PM
She's stink as.

Werse
03-29-2010, 09:29 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2695/4475292210_5da4bb41a5.jpg

SAID
03-29-2010, 09:30 PM
open wider

Werse
03-29-2010, 10:15 PM
I've decided this summer I'm buying a D90 because its nice. And I feel lame for saying it but I want HD video wicked bad.

UpstateHate585
03-29-2010, 10:21 PM
lol if you plan on using it, why not. It's always nice to have.

just got this in an e-mail

Really dig the work man! Unfortunately for our next show we already have a photographer booked out. But for future shows and other things we would consider you. Whats your prices? And do you do any promo work like band group shots? We just went through some line up changes and will need new shots. Let me know!

I don't really know what to say. I wasn't planning on charging for live shots lol. I haven't really planned any prices out. But since they are willing to pay... haha

Backalley Abortion Doctor
03-29-2010, 10:26 PM
They said they'd 'consider you' right before they asked your rates. From a between-the-lines perspective, it sounds like they're actually saying 'we'll consider your prices, not your work' So if it's someone you want to keep working with in the future, or intend to network off of, you should get in with them at a low price (Since you didn't want to charge anyway). But if it doesn't matter much whether or not you get the job, charge whatever the price you need to buy yourself that shiny new bike you've had your eye on. Or pot. Whatever floats you.

Werse
03-29-2010, 10:32 PM
Just tell them to pay for your ticket.

kmcdon3960
03-29-2010, 10:32 PM
if you wanna get dirty you could call some photographers and ask their prices pretending to be a client
then undercut them.

I'd be pissed if someone pulled this on me, but I don't intend to be a professional photographer, so whateverrrr

Xfish
03-29-2010, 10:33 PM
some of my favorite pics i took some are slightly edited

.A.K.4.7.
03-29-2010, 10:37 PM
I've decided this summer I'm buying a D90 because its nice. And I feel lame for saying it but I want HD video wicked bad.

Look at the new canon 550D, I have no idea what that's called in USA, the land of changing the names of things just because. (Rebel is the worst name for a camera I have ever heard)

Canon has far superior video in their SLRs.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/1002/canon/eos550d/550D-001.jpg

Werse
03-29-2010, 10:39 PM
I just think it would be handy cause thats what the kids want around snowboarding season. I'll always shoot nikon.

UpstateHate585
03-29-2010, 10:40 PM
Well the guy who did their promos before does a really good job but I heard he charges an asshole load. So what I was thinking was saying for a show, just get me and my friend in. And maybe for promos maybe $40. Idk lol i usually hate charging people, I don't think I'm good enough to charge. Maybe I'm being hard on myself

kmcdon3960
03-29-2010, 10:40 PM
rebel t2i

I've always wondered about video slr's. Does that cause your sensor to get dirtier quicker?

Backalley Abortion Doctor
03-29-2010, 10:42 PM
Look at the new canon 550D, I have no idea what that's called in USA, the land of changing the names of things just because. (Rebel is the worst name for a camera I have ever heard)

Canon has far superior video in their SLRs.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/1002/canon/eos550d/550D-001.jpg

T2i? Not sure.

.A.K.4.7.
03-29-2010, 10:43 PM
rebel t2i

I've always wondered about video slr's. Does that cause your sensor to get dirtier quicker?

Not really. The shutter stays open, but so long as you've got a lens on their and you keep your lenses and interior of camera clean I can't imagine it being a problem.

The new canon has professional level whatever the fucks. Basically it's up to Hollywood and tv standards now. Nikon is far behind.

Backalley Abortion Doctor
03-29-2010, 10:46 PM
Professional level whatever the fucks. Scientific terms from sir A.K.

.A.K.4.7.
03-29-2010, 10:47 PM
I read it before, but can't remember / don't give a fuck

kmcdon3960
03-29-2010, 10:47 PM
The best part about it is that you can use oldass badass lenses like screwmount pentax or 60's nikon or zeiss or leica R or whateverthefuck to shoot video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl40AUoUOAE

The 'follow focus' whateverthinger is key to MF lenses

.A.K.4.7.
03-29-2010, 10:51 PM
My D3s shoots video and it is fun shooting video in fisheye, or with a f/1.4 lens, but meh.

http://jinphoto.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/d32.jpg
from this you can start to see where all those thousands go in buying a lens.

UpstateHate585
03-29-2010, 10:52 PM
it would be cool to see it zoom lol

kmcdon3960
03-29-2010, 10:56 PM
i dun think that's even a zoom lens

.A.K.4.7.
03-29-2010, 11:02 PM
It is, 14-24mm f/2.8

SAID
03-30-2010, 07:12 AM
http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/1728/uptop.jpg

it was such a shitty day

thesecks
03-30-2010, 07:51 AM
http://www.cameramate.com/images/01252010_203034-_IGP0176.JPG
http://www.cameramate.com/images/s_01252010_202950-_IGP0175.JPG
http://www.cameramate.com/images/01252010_203046-_IGP0177.JPG

ARRIVED ARRIVED ARRIVED LOVE LOVE LOVE

there is no camera better than this. i own the best camera in the world.

I'd have this purely for position of the viewfinder so I could have both eyes open and see everything.


I reckon the only situation I would buy a Leica would be if I won the lottery, I could probably think of things ALOT more useful for my 5,000 then a camera

One Evil
03-30-2010, 11:11 AM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2695/4475292210_5da4bb41a5.jpg

feeling this.. also have the same lumber jack coat

ImageVerification
03-30-2010, 12:25 PM
my two favourite shots from yesterday. post sharpening
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/6475/will18x10.jpg
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/8567/will58x10.jpg

.A.K.4.7.
03-30-2010, 03:28 PM
I'd have this purely for position of the viewfinder so I could have both eyes open and see everything.


I reckon the only situation I would buy a Leica would be if I won the lottery, I could probably think of things ALOT more useful for my 5,000 then a camera

Who spend 5000 pounds? 2nd hand is how you do leica !!!

thesecks
03-30-2010, 03:40 PM
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/1567/21736458.jpg

still, I'm guessing a camera costing 5k new isn't going to be too cheap second hand

.A.K.4.7.
03-30-2010, 04:56 PM
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/1567/21736458.jpg

still, I'm guessing a camera costing 5k new isn't going to be too cheap second hand

Oh we're talking about the digital leicas. Yeah well they are out of reach for normal people. Leica's have always been the choice of professionals or very rich normal people. But people don't buy leica's for their viewfinders they buy them for their lenses. You simply can't get better quality pictures than from a leica lens, until you go into medium format.

.A.K.4.7.
03-30-2010, 06:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl40AUoUOAE

for you canon DSLR HD VIDEO nuts.

the rest of this dudes videos are interesting too, he's got dope gear.


Also a fashion week photographer, all her tips will work for event and gig photography too, it's all the same sort of environment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmPMgFb7HEw&feature=channel


And this dude gives some really really good advice.

http://www.youtube.com/user/damonwebster#p/u/10/25WmoFKNADU

ShIfTeD
03-30-2010, 08:40 PM
lol if you plan on using it, why not. It's always nice to have.

just got this in an e-mail

Really dig the work man! Unfortunately for our next show we already have a photographer booked out. But for future shows and other things we would consider you. Whats your prices? And do you do any promo work like band group shots? We just went through some line up changes and will need new shots. Let me know!

I don't really know what to say. I wasn't planning on charging for live shots lol. I haven't really planned any prices out. But since they are willing to pay... haha

dont charge anyone anything until your confident enough to toss prices at people without the fear of getting denied

thats what i say

if its a band worth getting connected with, no matter what, do everything for free, just tell them to guestlist you and if its out of your way, tell them to pay you what it costs you in gas

i usually charge 15 for live shots not including the guest list and gas
...the nice thing is im down with alot of promoters and booking agencies so they throw my logo on the flier and then i charge each band playing 15 if they want my pics...5 or 6 bands gets some dough in your pocket

,im still paving down promo shots for bands but i charge anywhere from 55 to 75

if you charge the band and they dont know your work, dont expect a response back from them

.A.K.4.7.
03-30-2010, 08:56 PM
http://vimeo.com/6497905


THIS IS TRULY A MUST WATCH.

Dope street photography.


Watch all three parts, this shit has inspired me to go out and shoot so bad.

ehso
03-30-2010, 09:48 PM
http://i558.photobucket.com/albums/ss24/ehso_album/Photography/Scan_1.jpg

dinedgc
03-30-2010, 10:39 PM
lookin into a holga, they're cheap and i like the effect you can get from them, any comments?

like that shot btw ehso, the sun glare worked well, its easy to fuck it up

.A.K.4.7.
03-30-2010, 10:40 PM
comment: hipster novelty art fag cameras.

But if you like that sort of thing... then why not.

UpstateHate585
03-30-2010, 10:57 PM
dont charge anyone anything until your confident enough to toss prices at people without the fear of getting denied

thats what i say

if its a band worth getting connected with, no matter what, do everything for free, just tell them to guestlist you and if its out of your way, tell them to pay you what it costs you in gas

i usually charge 15 for live shots not including the guest list and gas
...the nice thing is im down with alot of promoters and booking agencies so they throw my logo on the flier and then i charge each band playing 15 if they want my pics...5 or 6 bands gets some dough in your pocket

,im still paving down promo shots for bands but i charge anywhere from 55 to 75

if you charge the band and they dont know your work, dont expect a response back from them

I don't really care about getting denied lol. They aren't a huge band but it would still get me started. I gave them some of my shots of them from a show and they e-mailed me that. I was thinking about doing the live shots for guess list and promos depending on location 40-50 bucks

also, maybe ak knows this, are there any cheaper digital rangefinders other than leica? I like the look of them, but film is just expensive for me. i feel that if i get a point and shoot, i am not serious if that makes any sense

.A.K.4.7.
03-30-2010, 11:31 PM
Why do you only want digital ? what's wrong with film ?

There is the epsom rd-1

http://blog.nakedcellist.org/files/epson-r-d1.jpeg

its got a leica mount but it's still expensive. Buy a yashica if you want a rangefinder.

Did you watch the video I posted?

UpstateHate585
03-30-2010, 11:35 PM
yeah im on number 2. there is nothing wrong with film. It's beautiful. But it's expensive and the places around here that develop usually suck.

.A.K.4.7.
03-30-2010, 11:38 PM
I pay 8$ a film to get developed. Dunno what that is in US dollars but it's fuck all.

kmcdon3960
03-30-2010, 11:41 PM
I pay 8$ a film to get developed. Dunno what that is in US dollars but it's fuck all.

that's absolutely ridicilous man, you can get a gallon of d-76 and develop 50 rolls with that shit for the same price.

You should learn how to do it man, it's mad easy.

Color's a different story though.

UpstateHate585
03-30-2010, 11:44 PM
The developing isnt too expensive but the film itself seems hard to come by unless you want shitty stuff. but still like 5 bux for 24 exposures isnt cheap in my opinion

.A.K.4.7.
03-30-2010, 11:45 PM
The developing isnt too expensive but the film itself seems hard to come by unless you want shitty stuff. but still like 5 bux for 24 exposures isnt cheap in my opinion

Well if you think the way you think in digital, shooting a zillion photos with no thought behind them, then yes you'd go through heaps of rolls and it would be expensive. But if you think about each and every shot, then you'll get 24 dope photographs, and thus the film becomes worth while. You have to think about before digital cameras exist. It was a very different world.

KMC watch the video I posted. The vimeo one.

PS I mainly shoot colour cos it's cheap.

UpstateHate585
03-31-2010, 12:02 AM
oh i hear you man. but im still learning and wouldnt want to burn through film you know? i do think through my shots but i like the instant feedback of digital to make sure i'm exposing right and stuff. right now i have 3 options:

1-use my d40 for everything

2-use the film slr i have for street and use the money saved towards my main gear

3-buy a point and shoot with manual control or something (panasonic lumix zs5k)

lakim shabazz
03-31-2010, 12:40 AM
fuuuck where im from they dont develop black and white anymore and i fi want to do its 18 bones a roll they have to send it out im only fucking with colour rolls till i find a joint that still does back and white film.
http://i41.tinypic.com/15hbk8p.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/6fnktl.jpg

.A.K.4.7.
03-31-2010, 12:57 AM
oh i hear you man. but im still learning and wouldnt want to burn through film you know? i do think through my shots but i like the instant feedback of digital to make sure i'm exposing right and stuff. right now i have 3 options:

1-use my d40 for everything

2-use the film slr i have for street and use the money saved towards my main gear

3-buy a point and shoot with manual control or something (panasonic lumix zs5k)

I shoot film because it forces me to learn how to do photography manually. I don't want the camera to do all the work for me. I could stick with my D3s and never learn a single thing about how to take pictures. But thats boring.

SAID
03-31-2010, 07:29 AM
http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/1830/12954323328770037612770.jpg

UpstateHate585
03-31-2010, 08:05 AM
I shoot film because it forces me to learn how to do photography manually. I don't want the camera to do all the work for me. I could stick with my D3s and never learn a single thing about how to take pictures. But thats boring.

my d40 never leaves manual.

.A.K.4.7.
03-31-2010, 08:58 AM
You think that means you are doing all the work? try using a camera with no light meter, and no battery. Try guessing shutter speed and aperture just from guessing how bright the sunlight is. Thats what a leica is all about.

kmcdon3960
03-31-2010, 09:07 AM
You think that means you are doing all the work? try using a camera with no light meter, and no battery. Try guessing shutter speed and aperture just from guessing how bright the sunlight is. Thats what a leica is all about.

That's what my pentax spotmatic with a busted-ass light meter is alll about too :D

VAsucks
03-31-2010, 10:21 AM
how the hell do you even begin to guess shutter speed and aperture?
i feel like even with experience that would be impossible to get right more than a quarter of the time

and that street photography documentary was really interesting
made me want to get into that shit

.A.K.4.7.
03-31-2010, 10:28 AM
how the hell do you even begin to guess shutter speed and aperture?
i feel like even with experience that would be impossible to get right more than a quarter of the time

and that street photography documentary was really interesting
made me want to get into that shit

Takes a long time !!! In general on a sunny day using 400 ISO film, 250th shutter at f/16 is usually correct, in the shade stop down to 60th or so. It just takes practice, and a separate light meter if you're not sure.

And yeah, street photography is the shit. Got pissy and walked up and down the main street of my city tonight. Met some homelesses and shot portraits of them. Homelesses are cool yo. Was thinking of the documentary the whole time.

VAsucks
03-31-2010, 10:48 AM
i was considering snagging a yashica electro off amazon for 60 bucks after watching that.
was planning on buying a film camera anyway but i dunno if i wanna save up for something nicer.

for talking- a picture my dad asked me to take of his new floor

http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/4826/floor.jpg

thesecks
03-31-2010, 11:39 AM
probably the easiest fucking thing you can do that looks good, but I'm lacking new photos so I thought I'd give it a bash

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2790/4479484332_a37e60290e.jpg

AK, I'm watching that street photography vid now, I'll let you know how it goes, I'm doing my art project on street photography atm

kmcdon3960
03-31-2010, 01:37 PM
It's a decent video. I respect chris weeks' work, but he's a walking leica commercial :/

UpstateHate585
03-31-2010, 03:31 PM
You think that means you are doing all the work? try using a camera with no light meter, and no battery. Try guessing shutter speed and aperture just from guessing how bright the sunlight is. Thats what a leica is all about.

i never said that it means im doing all the work, but it does mean that im doing more than putting it in auto and just shooting. i doubt the m9 is about all that haha. but i hear you, i never disagreed with you. you just made it sound like im not trying to learn or something

on a side note, i got home from work to see a huge box from b&h on my porch. i cant open it till sunday. fuck

One Evil
03-31-2010, 04:09 PM
fuuuck where im from they dont develop black and white anymore

why the fuck haha thats wack shit.

thesecks
03-31-2010, 04:16 PM
seen that whole video, makes me want a Leica now, dam

thesecks
03-31-2010, 04:27 PM
AK, post some of your better street photos

zio
03-31-2010, 04:28 PM
a bit over saturated.. might need to recalibrate the screen?

anyway, this was from last night. just bought the wire shutter release and was screwing with it.
crits and advice for long exposure photos?
http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/090/3/9/mirror_by_RL0P32.jpg

thesecks
03-31-2010, 04:56 PM
find an interesting subject matter, at the end of the day, its what? a drainage system or something?

My cheeky bit of street shit I found on my comp and edited

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2758/4480210570_8b8891c4ca_b.jpg

.A.K.4.7.
03-31-2010, 04:57 PM
It's a decent video. I respect chris weeks' work, but he's a walking leica commercial :/

Everyone who owns one is a walking commercial ! Am I not ?
:D

.A.K.4.7.
03-31-2010, 04:58 PM
AK, post some of your better street photos

I don't really have any candid street shots yet. I usually ask for a shot and get a posed photo. I'm practising being a snakey cunt at the moment. Will post once I have some half decent ones. People like KMC and lakim take better street shots than me.

One thing that street photographers live by, is if you're photo's aren't interesting enough, you're not getting close enough. You gotta have a lot of confidence for that. It takes practice and being able to talk to people.

.A.K.4.7.
03-31-2010, 05:00 PM
i never said that it means im doing all the work, but it does mean that im doing more than putting it in auto and just shooting. i doubt the m9 is about all that haha. but i hear you, i never disagreed with you. you just made it sound like im not trying to learn or something

on a side note, i got home from work to see a huge box from b&h on my porch. i cant open it till sunday. fuck

M9 is the same as my M4 basically, entirely manually controlled. The only automated new feature to hit leica in the nearly 60 years is aperture priority, and that was a huge deal. Oh, well they added a snapshot mode, but that was literally only designed so that you can hand your leica to a friend and he can work it.

zio
03-31-2010, 05:09 PM
find an interesting subject matter, at the end of the day, its what? a drainage system or something?


just a puddle by a huge field. was trying to get the sky and landscape but i saw that puddle with the reflection so i tried it.

ill be coming out more since its getting warmer out. i should really get out during the day and not sleep in though

zio
03-31-2010, 05:17 PM
regarding the street photography, its not necessarily the leica i wanted, i jsut wanted to get a rangefinder really bad after it.

1 main thing is how discrete you can get vs lugging a huge ass dslr in turn could get you closer to ppl without making them feel like youre invading their space

UpstateHate585
03-31-2010, 05:35 PM
http://i43.tinypic.com/fbkw20.jpg

http://i42.tinypic.com/2wg89k6.jpg

http://i39.tinypic.com/2lml1ma.jpg

http://i39.tinypic.com/35n3g9c.jpg

.A.K.4.7.
03-31-2010, 05:51 PM
regarding the street photography, its not necessarily the leica i wanted, i jsut wanted to get a rangefinder really bad after it.

1 main thing is how discrete you can get vs lugging a huge ass dslr in turn could get you closer to ppl without making them feel like youre invading their space

People just think its a point and shoot.

kmcdon3960
03-31-2010, 06:47 PM
find an interesting subject matter, at the end of the day, its what? a drainage system or something?

My cheeky bit of street shit I found on my comp and edited

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2758/4480210570_8b8891c4ca_b.jpg

Sweet job on the panning, maybe brighten it up a little?

Was that dude running?

zio
03-31-2010, 09:20 PM
People just think its a point and shoot.

yup.
i like the retro feel and how the focusing system works for it too.

how much does a decent base model rangefinder cost around?
and do they usually have a pretty fast lens with it?

.A.K.4.7.
03-31-2010, 09:33 PM
yup.
i like the retro feel and how the focusing system works for it too.

how much does a decent base model rangefinder cost around?
and do they usually have a pretty fast lens with it?

Leica's start at around a grand for an M3, thats just the body, and go right up to $6000 for the digital leicas and M7's and MP's. leica lenses start at 2000$ and go up to $10,000.

There are voigtlander bessa rangefinders that are affordable, at around 600$US for their top model. Voigtlander lenses are also cheaper.

And then there are yashicas which are pretty badly build but have good lenses and are cheap these days, but you might have to buy a few before you get one that works properly. I have gone through 2 of them.

There are tons of rangefinders out there, just refine your search on ebay to rangefinders and you will see them all.

zio
03-31-2010, 09:47 PM
yeah i was just doing this before i saw your post.. im still so iffy about ebay though cause i was seeing some leicas that were somewhere around the hundreds?

so im guessing i cant mix and match lenses with different body huh?
ex: voigtlander body + yashica lens

i guess i can just narrow it down to those two brands for now.

.A.K.4.7.
03-31-2010, 10:13 PM
yashica's have fixed lenses... but you can mix and match voigtlander and leica lenses. so long as they are M mount.

kmcdon3960
03-31-2010, 11:59 PM
I've been through 4 yashicas so far. If you drop one it's usually done for, but the lenses are pimptastic.

They're awesome wide open

http://rapidhate.org/images/20091014173756_guy.jpg

theorist
04-01-2010, 12:10 AM
i got accepted into the advanced digital photography class at my school for senior year, the teacher is a dick, but hopefully i will have fun for the semester...

kmcdon3960
04-01-2010, 12:17 AM
http://www.foto-tip.pl/aukcje/samyang/Samyang_mirror_500_8+canon4.jpg

Got one of these for free today. I certianly wouldn't pay for one, but it works out to be 800mm on my rebel body, so it should be fun to fuck around with.

at f/8 forget shooting handheld though. It doesn't even have an aperture, it uses rear-mounted ND filters.

.A.K.4.7.
04-01-2010, 12:46 AM
Wow. Thats intense. Spy on some celebrities !

lakim shabazz
04-01-2010, 09:25 AM
I've been through 4 yashicas so far. If you drop one it's usually done for, but the lenses are pimptastic.

They're awesome wide open



ive droped my zenit 11 maddd times few times went down harrrd and it still worrks perfect shit weighs like 4 pounds bodys alll metal.

UpstateHate585
04-01-2010, 10:29 AM
thinkin of getting these printed and hanging them all together. what do u think?

http://i44.tinypic.com/2pqkgwg.jpg

http://i43.tinypic.com/10e0evd.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/v7sghx.jpg

lakim shabazz
04-01-2010, 11:24 AM
first and second are fresh third not so much

.A.K.4.7.
04-01-2010, 11:38 AM
wow roots

UpstateHate585
04-01-2010, 12:04 PM
first and second are fresh third not so much

thanks man.

i wasnt really taking pictures because they are roots but i like the way the vines and stuff grow and create patterns. I don't know why but i like gnarly looking trees lol

this was the other one i was gonna put in place of the third one but wasnt sure:

http://i42.tinypic.com/mszkg3.jpg

VAsucks
04-01-2010, 12:26 PM
dont really like the out of focus vine in the middle
i would either use the third or go out and shoot another gnarly lookin tree

UpstateHate585
04-01-2010, 03:11 PM
haha yeah i noticed that too. oh well

i've been thinking of getting either a longboard or a new lens lol. i think i will just get both


is the editing too noticable?
http://i42.tinypic.com/2wovoqo.jpg

One Evil
04-01-2010, 07:32 PM
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/5781/dscf46081.jpg (http://img215.imageshack.us/i/dscf46081.jpg/)
really wish that pole shit in the pic wasnt there..

the sky looked really crazy today.. shitty pic cause it was taken through the front window of my car
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/8143/dscf4627v.jpg (http://img515.imageshack.us/i/dscf4627v.jpg/)

One Evil
04-01-2010, 07:49 PM
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/8798/dscf4604b.jpg (http://img8.imageshack.us/i/dscf4604b.jpg/)
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/4017/dscf4605.jpg (http://img243.imageshack.us/i/dscf4605.jpg/)
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/4492/dscf4589.jpg (http://img87.imageshack.us/i/dscf4589.jpg/)
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/1481/dscf4596.jpg (http://img100.imageshack.us/i/dscf4596.jpg/)
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/8748/dscf4590.jpg (http://img35.imageshack.us/i/dscf4590.jpg/)

ShIfTeD
04-01-2010, 07:56 PM
http://i42.tinypic.com/2wg89k6.jpg






i enjoyed this one.

One Evil
04-01-2010, 08:01 PM
may i ask what that would happen to be upstate? it looks to me that it could be a frog with some crazy shit on it.. or water and bubbles but im stumped on that.. but it looks really really cool :D

UpstateHate585
04-01-2010, 08:28 PM
haha thanks guys, its a close up of a water run-off. I was shooting the whole thing then decided to get closer. glad u guys like it

got a show coming up tomorrow so i should have a few pics coming

One Evil
04-01-2010, 08:36 PM
haha thats sick, i had a feeling it was water with bubbles flowing... very cool shot indeed :)


http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/5745/dscf459211.jpg (http://img260.imageshack.us/i/dscf459211.jpg/)

.A.K.4.7.
04-01-2010, 10:51 PM
$$$ i'm a photographer give me money $$$

lakim shabazz
04-02-2010, 12:25 AM
http://i39.tinypic.com/n4wf1t.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/2yudr9c.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/vshqiw.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/2mcje39.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/24c8bj5.jpg

J.Channa
04-02-2010, 12:47 AM
ive droped my zenit 11 maddd times few times went down harrrd and it still worrks perfect shit weighs like 4 pounds bodys alll metal.

jesus christ what the hell are you all doing? I have never once dropped any of my equipment ever. Be careful man!

lakim shabazz
04-02-2010, 09:09 AM
mannn im just not walking streets i climb run jump i have fun with iiit, only with my 35mm cause its a fucking tank hahah

UpstateHate585
04-02-2010, 11:56 PM
So I think I have decided that live band photography isn't my thing. Not cuz I don't love shows and stuff, but in all honesty, it's kind of boring and every show there's 9 kids with cameras taking photos and they are annoying. The shows are always the same, people on stage, moving around. But if it's your thing, cool. That being said, the show I went to tonight was awesome but the fucking fog machines suck dick. So hard to work around fog. I need a better camera for iso and a faster short lens like an 18mm. But I can use that money for different equipment seeing as I think I'm done with shows for now.

http://i44.tinypic.com/14ugw8m.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/1t6a2u.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/124kcnn.jpg

http://i39.tinypic.com/28s8qrr.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/6zogwp.jpg

http://i39.tinypic.com/xngspy.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/28at553.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/30n91c7.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/mihycn.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/2pt0x1c.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/2ypm2hw.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/2n7hwi.jpg

http://i43.tinypic.com/fee0cj.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/2m6kff5.jpg

.A.K.4.7.
04-03-2010, 12:14 AM
I've been shooting utter bullshit lately. I need to get out more and up my game. Got my first roll back from out of my yashica, I am in LOVE with the lens, the colours are so subtle but beautiful. I'm gonna use it a lot more !!!

http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/8844/joe5644.jpg
jaguar e type... *****s know
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/1623/44029299.jpg
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/4379/91057673.jpg
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/8510/19894687.jpg
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/1368/96943052.jpg
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/1399/111gsg.jpg
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/7217/joe5468.jpg
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/639/joe5505.jpg
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/2847/joe5520.jpg

Backalley Abortion Doctor
04-03-2010, 12:16 AM
Love the picture of the cat, AK.

.A.K.4.7.
04-03-2010, 12:27 AM
Love the picture of the cat, AK.

Yeah the lens on the yashica is razor sharp I was very surprised !!!

UpstateHate585
04-03-2010, 12:45 AM
nice photos ak, I have decided that next paycheck, if i can cut it, I'm gonna get a d300s. anyone know how it is in low light? obviously better than my d40 haha. Idk, I still like the d700 for some reason. but I can't justify 1000$ for a fx. will the image quality really change from dx to fx?

.A.K.4.7.
04-03-2010, 12:47 AM
nice photos ak, I have decided that next paycheck, if i can cut it, I'm gonna get a d300s. anyone know how it is in low light? obviously better than my d40 haha. Idk, I still like the d700 for some reason. but I can't justify 1000$ for a fx. will the image quality really change from dx to fx?

Image quality will not change in the slightest. FX and DX has nothing to do with image quality. It is simply just 2 different formats. Lenses are what determine image quality, not the camera. The camera doesn't matter.

The D300s is the best low light DX camera you can buy from Nikon.

sir.one
04-03-2010, 12:54 AM
http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/8844/joe5644.jpg


http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/4379/91057673.jpg

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/7217/joe5468.jpg
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/639/joe5505.jpg


they do know.

ak47 still my favorite numba one stunna, shame more kids cant live around some culture. lol.

UpstateHate585
04-03-2010, 12:56 AM
thats what i thought. though fx does allow for higher iso correct? im just tired of having to get af-s lenses

.A.K.4.7.
04-03-2010, 01:06 AM
thats what i thought. though fx does allow for higher iso correct? im just tired of having to get af-s lenses

Why? There is nothing wrong with AF-S lenses. They focus faster and quieter. There is nothing you can get in FX that you can't get in DX now a days lens wise, from wides, teles to normals. FX allows slightly better ISO quality yes, but not that much better, only if you are using a D3 which has abnormally good ISO handling.

UpstateHate585
04-03-2010, 01:15 AM
lol i would like to have a d3 but that's too much camera for me haha. from what i have noticed is that af-s lenses are a bit more money. my new 55-200 isnt that quiet lol

now what im questioning is should i just get a d300? the differences don't seem to be that big. I don't plan on using movie mode. and though the dual card slot is nice, i don't think i would use it too often. I have been having trouble with raw files

.A.K.4.7.
04-03-2010, 01:21 AM
I think you're obsessing over ISO and it really doesn't matter at all. Instead of changing the gear, change your technique.

UpstateHate585
04-03-2010, 01:28 AM
i didnt say anything about iso in my last post, im not obsessing over it, i just would like a camera that performs well in low light. thats all. but i guess a faster lens would help that as well.

side note, i got asked to do some automotive shots, infant portraits, and a family portrait. never done automotive, should be cool, well, i havent done any of that haha

.A.K.4.7.
04-03-2010, 02:37 AM
So stay with you're D40.

J.Channa
04-03-2010, 05:02 AM
Any NFL fans? I did a shoot for Bryant McKinnie at his mansion today.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4007/4485862537_deaec36294_o.jpg

UpstateHate585
04-03-2010, 09:07 AM
So stay with you're D40.


the d40 isnt giving me what i want. great camera, but I feel that i can benefit from a new body. I want a camera that has the autofocus motor in the body, faster fps, does better than my d40 at at least iso 800, higher mp (i have been getting asked for prints larger than I can make),and some of the features on the d300s are really nice and seem useful.

.A.K.4.7.
04-03-2010, 10:37 AM
the d40 isnt giving me what i want. great camera, but I feel that i can benefit from a new body. I want a camera that has the autofocus motor in the body, faster fps, does better than my d40 at at least iso 800, higher mp (i have been getting asked for prints larger than I can make),and some of the features on the d300s are really nice and seem useful.

but WHY? why do you need a faster FPS? why do you need better ISO? so far ive seen shots of flowers and bands. can you give a reason to need a billion fps and 12 million ISO? nah.
I bet if I gave you a manual leica you wouldn't know how to use it. If you don't even understand what the difference is between full frame and DX is, why do you want a D700? Just stick with your d40 and TAKE MORE PHOTOGRAPHS.

Or don't listen to me and spend all your money on a d300s, or hell, a d700, you're photos are not going to get any better, trust me.

.A.K.4.7.
04-03-2010, 10:43 AM
Any NFL fans? I did a shoot for Bryant McKinnie at his mansion today.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4007/4485862537_deaec36294_o.jpg

I don't know who that is, but please straighten it !!! I can't stand straight lines that aren't straight !
;)

J.Channa
04-03-2010, 11:52 AM
I don't know who that is, but please straighten it !!! I can't stand straight lines that aren't straight !
;)

Ah yes you are right! Gotta fix that immediately thanks.
I shot for this PlayTyme Magazine a while ago. They finally printed the issues I worked for. Here they are.
http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs449.snc3/25741_1103707969721_1737410350_198499_5083597_n.jp g
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs469.snc3/25741_1103707289704_1737410350_198498_4125457_n.jp g

It really does suck that I didn't have any creative control over any of this because I really hate the shots they chose to use for the cover.

UpstateHate585
04-03-2010, 12:09 PM
but WHY? why do you need a faster FPS? why do you need better ISO? so far ive seen shots of flowers and bands. can you give a reason to need a billion fps and 12 million ISO? nah.
I bet if I gave you a manual leica you wouldn't know how to use it. If you don't even understand what the difference is between full frame and DX is, why do you want a D700? Just stick with your d40 and TAKE MORE PHOTOGRAPHS.

Or don't listen to me and spend all your money on a d300s, or hell, a d700, you're photos are not going to get any better, trust me.

Why do i want a faster fps? If I'm shooting bands, it helps a lot. And same with a better iso capability. Concerts are always dark and it's nice to have the option to get to 800 without having to worry about noise too much.Though I know getting a faster lens will help. I know what the difference between fx and dx are. I asked one question about it. If all you have seen is flowers and bands from me, then you havent been paying much attention to my posts. Maybe in the past week yeah, but I think maybe my style or whatever isnt your thing and that's cool. I think possibly you are underestimating me a little. I know a bit about stuff but I ask questions to make sure i'm right.

If you would like to send me a manual leica, i would be more than happy to tell you if i can work it or not :)

J.Channa
04-03-2010, 12:21 PM
I think what AK's trying to say that you are not getting is that your pictures suck. Buying a better camera won't make them not suck. So work on that with the camera you have.

UpstateHate585
04-03-2010, 12:26 PM
what makes my pictures suck? I know better gear doesn't make me better, but it makes things a lot easier.

J.Channa
04-03-2010, 12:37 PM
I had this argument with myself at one time as well. About how a better camera will make things easier. But when I realized that photographers were shooting pictures way better than mine using canon rebels I understood that I need to stick with what I have and perfect it. What ends up happening way to often is people have amazing equipment and don't know what to do with it. Taking more pictures all the time is the only way to make things easier. And better

Backalley Abortion Doctor
04-03-2010, 12:41 PM
Those covers are super boring. Not your shots, just the layout of the cover.

Werse
04-03-2010, 12:57 PM
Finally got a working sb600, having everything lit well makes such a huge difference.

I like your shots J. Chan they look good.

funhouseXcast
04-03-2010, 03:01 PM
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4014/4486867794_2b9f9bd1be_o.jpg

hello everyone.

J.Channa
04-03-2010, 03:01 PM
Those covers are super boring. Not your shots, just the layout of the cover.

Right? I said the same thing. Makes me want to start my own magazine lol

J.Channa
04-03-2010, 03:09 PM
AK hows this?
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4019/4487106287_848075409f_o.jpg

Werse
04-03-2010, 03:15 PM
Get rid of that little sliver of tree or whatever in the upper left corner.