The Ink Discussion Thread

[JadedSketches]

just so you know etch bath does work in most pump action markers, just make sure it's super clean or you're fucked. i prefer little visine bottles for etch, personally.

[wpgtags]

how bout u dont even use etch? that shit fucks you up

[EgoZen]

i dont mess around with etch. i like sandpaper doesnt fuck up your skin. just cut a piece of sandpaper and tape it to the cap of your marker. i like that steeze

I`m with you on that one Cais..

[snap_pxc]

you guys are idiots. If you are too afraid to use etch in a zig or a mop don't use sandpaper. they sandblast those tags right off the windows. What I prefer to use is a rock. They are hard to find but once u get one u'll be laughing. Their red and look kind of like a volcano rock lots of people use them for decorating their front yards. But if you are luchy lime I am the median down Main street in your city is completly filled with them :D

[MUSEone]

Wat does being cautious when using etch in a zig or nop have anything to do with using sandpaper?

U make no sense. Srry.

[snap_pxc]

well, the guy above jst said he uses sandpaper
I am simply stating for theose too scared of etch, or those who dont know how to properly handle etch should just use a rock.
anyone who has used sandpaper and then used one of these rocks knows what I'm talking about
clearly if you read all the posts on this page you would understand what I'm talking about you incompotent fuck.

[Cesk]

well, the guy above jst said he uses sandpaper
I am simply stating for theose too scared of etch, or those who dont know how to properly handle etch should just use a rock.
anyone who has used sandpaper and then used one of these rocks knows what I'm talking about
clearly if you read all the posts on this page you would understand what I'm talking about you incompotent fuck.

I'm sure anyone who knows what etch does to the body is scared to handle it, unless you're simply to hardcore for us softies on BS... :(

And no, Muse was right. You made no sense, show some respect. He didn't insult you, just simply pointed out you made no sense :\

[MUSEone]

well, the guy above jst said he uses sandpaper
I am simply stating for theose too scared of etch, or those who dont know how to properly handle etch should just use a rock.
anyone who has used sandpaper and then used one of these rocks knows what I'm talking about
clearly if you read all the posts on this page you would understand what I'm talking about you incompotent fuck.

learn how to spell before u call somone "incompetent".

re-read ur post before wat i said...


you guys are idiots. If you are too afraid to use etch in a zig or a mop don't use sandpaper. they sandblast those tags right off the windows. What I prefer to use is a rock. They are hard to find but once u get one u'll be laughing. Their red and look kind of like a volcano rock lots of people use them for decorating their front yards. But if you are luchy lime I am the median down Main street in your city is completly filled with them :D

U lost me at wat i put in bold.
Srry but u have the grammar of a 3rd grader. That made NO sense whatsoever.

Plus u said "dont" use sandpaper.

Ok then, tell me a good reason why not to?

[EgoZen]

Guys quit the shit, specially you snap..
And do NOT insult other people!..

Now back to inks please!..

Anyone has some good news about new inks or
a good ink that he wants to share?

[Cesk]

Guys quit the shit, specially you snap..
And do NOT insult other people!..

Now back to inks please!..

Anyone has some good news about new inks or
a good ink that he wants to share?

Yeah man, I just got my first bottle of Grog (white)
And I must say... damn I dont know what to say :(
I feel im not good enough for this ink.

Have you tried it Zen?

[MUSEone]

Whered u order it from? Only places i can find are in Euros, some still ship to the US, but its in fucking Euros. haha

Ummm.....ive made to new inks lately, a dark green and a dark blue. pretty dope imo. ill get flicks tomorrow.

[Vagrant]

i hate it when i find something interesting on the internet, and request the msds for it so I can figure out how to exploit it in a killer ink, and they e-mail me back wanting my fax number so they can fax me the msds
i dont have a fax machine, obviously

im probably just going to have to order a small bit, request they put the msds in box, and experiment with it at home

[Cesk]

Whered u order it from? Only places i can find are in Euros, some still ship to the US, but its in fucking Euros. haha

Ummm.....ive made to new inks lately, a dark green and a dark blue. pretty dope imo. ill get flicks tomorrow.

Well I got a local graff shop to order a bottle for me, it costed me 10 bucks, but they wont tell me the site unless I pay em. O_O so im like 'nah screw it'
They have the usual hard to get stuff (Candy Ink, Montana Markers, White Grog, White Grog squeesers etc etc[when I say hard to get I mean hard to get in mexico haha])

[MUSEone]

haha i may hit u up sometime looking for some stuff.

Think u can send me a pm with some out of the ordinary shit u cant get me?

[EgoZen]

Grog, I haven`t tested it yet but I heard only good things about it though...
I will get some ˙till October if I will have the time to visit Reny Brow(Hungarian graff girl)
they have a shop there..

But I`m so damn busy...
I˙m doing my final exams for grammar school...
I`m organazing Astronautalis concerts over here...
I have to learn 7 songs for a Black Metal band I play in now
cause we have a gig on the 13.09. (http://www.myspace.com/morabm the site is NOT updated yet...I`m NOT Nazgul or Jupoll)
Also I still have to record some more demos for the 2nd band I˙m in Picture Grey(http://www.myspace.com/picturegrey)
And yes I have to live ... damn son

[ohgawdxcarcrash]

the only ink im using right now is my homemade red ink, and marsh+garvey. really all i need now other than paint.

[rukijo]

i found a site that carries the 'squeezer 25' and its filled with white grog
its sold out right now though

but hey
at least its not 'euros' its amerrrican dollars

[unreal180]

i think its the ink in the hardcore XL markers that i had stuck on my finger for 6 days
(i did wash) is it usualy that hard 2 buff or was it coz i had some stelth ink on my hand at the time?

[EgoZen]

btw: for euros just type into google ex: 4 euros into dollars
and that is that ;)

[snap_pxc]

all I'm saying is if you use sandpaper on windows those tags won't last too too long
if you use one of these rocks its so deep they need a new window

[ohgawdxcarcrash]

Hardcore markers suck, the paint in it isn't that hard to buff, you just need to scrub harder. and unless there was stealth ink inside the marker, i doubt thats the reason why it wont come out. get some paint thinner or alcohol/nail polish. it'll come right off.

and snap, lava rocks work pretty decently but are hard to get a hold of depending on where you are. sand paper is more effective than rocks though, and it won't come off unless the windows have those plastic seals on them, but even then, if you were to use a rock and sandpaper on the plastic sealed windows, the sandpaper has a better chance of going through the seals, and making a mark on the window itself.

the only upside to lava rocks are that they give you a better grip, you can do handstyles with them, and it looks better.

[Cesk]

all I'm saying is if you use sandpaper on windows those tags won't last too too long
if you use one of these rocks its so deep they need a new window

No my friend, they last long in enough it depends on where you live and how the public transportation system does their windows, here in Mex-city I did a tag on a street car window and its been there for 2 months and still looks like sex.

Instead of a rock (to look less, o idk 'ghey) I would use a broken piece of glass.

[snap_pxc]

no a piece of glass gives you too thin of a line, for something like that I just use a scribe. but with these rocks it makes a nice wide deep even cut in the glass
and here in my city the transit gets cleaned the next day, if not then the same week

[hellomynameisftc]

i wouldnt use a broken piece of glass on a window, even if your street car windows are plexiglass, it just doesnt cut right, use a drill bit or a dremel bit or a sharpening stone or even a piece of porcelin, broken glass never looks legit.

anyways not really INK but i got this little bucket of silver rust paint for a dollar and its from like the eighties or something, and its maaad thin straight out of the tin. i threw a bottle of white out in there and BAM. looks just like krink, and dries a fuck of a lot quicker too.

i threw it in one of those window chalk markers, fuck those things are the shit!
can never fuckin find them tho, found one randomly hidden in some dollar store and told those suckas to order me a case.

fuck krink mops, just toss white out in your ghetto silver krink it works wonderfully.

i think the dollarstore people think im a heavy solvent abuser though, with the always buying paint and white out and what not :D

[MUSEone]

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/4171/0827081556afn7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

terrible pic cause none of it is dry yet.

ill post up a better one later.

[hellomynameisftc]

nice!

[Cesk]

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/4171/0827081556afn7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

terrible pic cause none of it is dry yet.

ill post up a better one later.

is dat sum ****?


no a piece of glass gives you too thin of a line, for something like that I just use a scribe. but with these rocks it makes a nice wide deep even cut in the glass
and here in my city the transit gets cleaned the next day, if not then the same week

It gives me the lines I like, they give me a 0.80mm wide line, thats big enough for me. <3 (:

[rukijo]

what kind of glass
wouldnt just like a normal piece snap right in half?
like from a house window or something?

[Vagrant]

why is it so hard to talk about ink in this thread?

[MUSEone]

Cesk-not ****. My own shizz.

[Cesk]

why is it so hard to talk about ink in this thread?

LOL it went from etch to sandpaper to glass... you're right.

@Rukijo - glass from an old-school cocacola bottle (Y)

NO MORE GLASS TALK
INK DISCUSSION SO LETS ALL STFU

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@Maso (from other page)

Well I'll PM you, its not that much rare shit, just like the Grog white and the montana inks. So yeah.

Talking about montana has anyone tried the MTN Pintura Laquer???

[noxi]

Cesk-not ****. My own shizz.

That red and green looks dope. Its nice and opaque. My red pen ink is transparent and looks like shit.

[(SoS)Viruz]

Yo Guys, I was wondering, I have some ColdSweat Ink left in my OTR that I ordered. It the origianal ColdSweat Ink, I was wondering If I add it to my ink well it be good or not?

[Cesk]

Cesk-not ****. My own shizz.

O, shiz looks dope. What are the main ingredients (if there are any secrets don't post em haha)

And you can call me dave btw (Y) :)

[Vagrant]

you know what really blows?

when you want to order some special stuff from a company (to use in an ink mix), and they have a minimum order thats like $30 higher than the price of what you wanted to buy. So you have to order like 4 times as much shit.
Hopefully this stuff is good and I didn't just throw money out the window.

[alexhate]

wtf just happened.

[Vagrant]

i don't know

[Olick]

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/4171/0827081556afn7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

terrible pic cause none of it is dry yet.

ill post up a better one later.

wohoo deepred royalblue huntergreen rusto!

blue looks thin, i like

[alexhate]

yea shur looks like paint to me.wide drips like that dont happen with ink.

[ohgawdxcarcrash]

muse, is that acrylic?

[MUSEone]

Not Rusto.

Not acrylic.

NO paint whatsoever.

[illadelph]

wohoo deepred royalblue huntergreen rusto!

blue looks thin, i like

what's that streak in the middle of the red? or am i seeing shit?

[unreal180]

Hardcore markers suck, the paint in it isn't that hard to buff, you just need to scrub harder. and unless there was stealth ink inside the marker, i doubt thats the reason why it wont come out. get some paint thinner or alcohol/nail polish. it'll come right off.

and snap, lava rocks work pretty decently but are hard to get a hold of depending on where you are. sand paper is more effective than rocks though, and it won't come off unless the windows have those plastic seals on them, but even then, if you were to use a rock and sandpaper on the plastic sealed windows, the sandpaper has a better chance of going through the seals, and making a mark on the window itself.

the only upside to lava rocks are that they give you a better grip, you can do handstyles with them, and it looks better.

nah soz i forget the name
i got busted the same day and had it all confiscated
its black ink
but like the next day it was just like a stain on my fingure and it was there for 3/4 more days

[MUSEone]

what's that streak in the middle of the red? or am i seeing shit?

Glare.

Like i said, wasnt dry when i took the pic.

[illadelph]

if y'all are trying to scratch some windows,just put a drill bit in an empty pen...you can even put the cap over where the bit comes out of the tip of the pen...to hide it....that right there works damn good...if that's what you all were talkin about....just caught the last few posts....

[CAN-KILLER]

my fiebings drips like dat

[Olick]

if y'all are trying to scratch some windows,just put a drill bit in an empty pen...you can even put the cap over where the bit comes out of the tip of the pen...to hide it....that right there works damn good...if that's what you all were talkin about....just caught the last few posts....

not a bad fuckin idea man hahah sounds like stuff ud here in arts&crafts books


and im cunfused. if it aint paint, then thats some thick ass ink.

[Mickey69]

my recipe atm

black feast watson
black grog ink
potassium permanganate
Acetone

[MUSEone]

not a bad fuckin idea man hahah sounds like stuff ud here in arts&crafts books


and im cunfused. if it aint paint, then thats some thick ass ink.

not as thick as it looks...

[snap_pxc]

if its not as thick y dont u just use a fuckin rock.
works just as well

[xgame2k]

Can krink be mixed with ghetto krink?

[noxi]

try it out for yourself

[Cesk]

if its not as thick y dont u just use a fuckin rock.
works just as well

INK THREAD. NOT GLASS SCRATCHIN SHIT.
TALK ABOUT YOUR JESUS ROCKS ON THIS THREAD:
http://www.bombingscience.com/graffitiforum/showthread.php?t=61

:mad:

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I'm about to order some Garvey, should I do it? It just looks really cheap haha.

[Haze..]

Add some HCL to your inks. it will react with alcohol used to buff it and make a huge mess.

[snap_pxc]

ok here's an ink recipe for ya

1/2 high concentrate pen ink (not much alcohol added if any)
1/4 RED woodstain (the dark dark color fucked up my last batch)
1/4 leather dye, better if you can find something with concentrated alcohol in it

add a couple of fish oil caps if you so desire

[Jdip]

Not sure if this has been told or not but how do u create etch ink i need exact recipe to the T plz msg me recipe if u have thx.

[SLEEP905]

etch isnt an ink

[alexhate]

Not Rusto.

Not acrylic.

NO paint whatsoever.

cool cool.

do you mind if i ask what base it is?

[illadelph]

hey muse,let's see some dry pix.....

[rukijo]

hey muse,let's see some dry pix.....

bump
i wanna see some too

[Vagrant]

Not sure if this has been told or not but how do u create etch ink i need exact recipe to the T plz msg me recipe if u have thx.

no

[SLEEP905]

lol if you have to ask how to, you probably shouldnt be fuckin with it

[Vagrant]

Ahh, the classic etch question answer. Works every time. :)

[H3TT1NG3R]

lol then noone learns anything....

[alexhate]

true no one who shouldnt learn things wont.

[Yuckasfuck]

Add some HCL to your inks. it will react with alcohol used to buff it and make a huge mess.

N what about the alcohol in the ink??
That shits good but not for mixin with inks or anything.

[MUSEone]

hey muse,let's see some dry pix.....

will here in a sec...

[originalhomeboy]

How well does Marsh + Garvey hold up in a transit level chemical buff?

Im contemplating adding some leather dye, dot 3 etc.

[Cesk]

How well does Marsh + Garvey hold up in a transit level chemical buff?

Im contemplating adding some leather dye, dot 3 etc.

Haha do it (last sentences) leather dye and dot 3 = orgasm (at least in my experience)
And Marhs + Garvey SHOULD hold up.

[Slushi]

Etch is alright, bit I'd like to keep my eyesight while tagging.

[meso-american]

for a carbon paper recipe will the backs of checks due or are we talkin more like the receipt paper type??

[Vagrant]

you need actual carbon copy paper. its black and is placed between two sheets of paper. when you write on the top piece, the pressure from your pencil imprints carbon from the copy paper onto the lower piece of paper.
The reason why i'm explaining this is because its kinda hard to find carbon paper anymore any you or someone else might not know what it is.
nowadays everything is carbon-less copy paper. Checks use carbon-less copy paper.
If you're thinking of credit card receipts or whatever - with the white copy on top that you sign, and the yellow copy on bottom - thats carbon-less

[Olick]

will here in a sec...

4 hours later....... =[

i personally see carbon ink or w.e u call just one of those things that are fun but not much worth it. thier are better things for less.

[Vagrant]

indeed.

[alexhate]

i know first hand carbon paper made after the mid 90s no longer works.and you can get it at staples,




annnnddd when it did work it was the purple you wanted,

[MUSEone]

4 hours later....... =[

i personally see carbon ink or w.e u call just one of those things that are fun but not much worth it. thier are better things for less.

Thats wat happens when u get sidetracked, and end up having to run into town.

Plus, i found that board i wrote it on, and me being my dumbass self has already tested other stuff over it.

Ill do it again today or tomorrow.

Srry i have a life.

[illadelph]

www.12ozprophet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=131796

[snap_pxc]

thinking about ordering some smash ink.
anyone tried it?

[SAID]

apperently it isnt that good but theres plenty of mixed opinions about it.
anyways i actually saw the buffman try to buff something that ive done indoors with ****.
i've noticed that **** usually fades to shit but if you use it indoors, it kills.
he first used that goof off graffiti remover which did NOTHING. it made a bigger mess than the tag itself so he only did the first letter. He then sprayed on krylon white primer on it and it just immediately bled through. He kept putting on primer on it and after the 5th time, he was fed up and just left my tag there. Perfect scenario.
Sorry for no pics.

[snap_pxc]

i'm pretty sure **** is basically jst pen ink lol

[Cesk]

i'm pretty sure **** is basically jst pen ink lol

http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/img/facepalm.jpeg
3rd time guys...

[FLIP FLOP]

**** is just coloured dyes alchohol and methylane blue. thats why it fades and the methylane blue is what makes it stain which is why it is so good indoors.

[SAID]

whatever, hes making a hustle out of it.

[MUSEone]

**** is just coloured dyes alchohol and methylane blue. thats why it fades and the methylane blue is what makes it stain which is why it is so good indoors.

Really?

Then can u explain all the shit that settles at the bottom?

...........

[Cesk]

Really?

Then can u explain all the shit that settles at the bottom?

...........

IT'S HACKS!
THAT STUFF AT THE BOTTOM IS JUST HACKS, JAMES WAS A HACKER YOU KNOW?!?! He'res proof:


I've been 'leet since the real hacker days not just counter strike =)

SEE.
SO DONT ASK YOUR QUESTIONS MASO,
ALL JAMES DOES IS PUT PEN INK AND HACKS IN HIS INKS :mad:

lol
i r a loser.

[wpgtags]

nice! im gonna try putting hacks in my ink~!!!!

[SAID]

you do that.

[alexhate]

i'm pretty sure **** is basically jst pen ink lol


**** is just coloured dyes alchohol and methylane blue. thats why it fades and the methylane blue is what makes it stain which is why it is so good indoors.

my anti drug,

[kroc_oner]

tht would explain why when i used rubbing alchohol and cleaning spra it came right off

[Cesk]

tht would explain why when i used rubbing alchohol and cleaning spra it came right off

Mhm, and last time I came all over a tag I did with some Grog and the shit just came right off.

I think Grog uses hacks too.... :(

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On a srs note, ._. <- serious face = serious time guys.

@kroc, I highly highly doubt **** would come out with that, unless you had jesus rubbing alcohol and your cleaning spray was made with jesus urine, I believe you.
;)

[Stale-space]

So the other day i was in me local graff store. (which i just found! Hella useful!) But Im a bit of a toy so I need some advice on inks. My friend made me a bvatch of his secret recipe ink. (I did that thing like 6 months ago or something and its still going strong!) Im not a huge fan of drips though. The ink I was thinking about getting was either a Artline 330 ml Black one or a Grog 250 ml (black). Theres a $20 price difference and Im kinda low on cash so if the grog is good quality ink then I'll get that one but if i need more money to buy better grade ink then I'll just wait.

[ohgawdxcarcrash]

the blue **** ink comes off pretty easily. mineral spirits got it right off, it stained just a little, and rubbing alcohol 91% got it off but it left a better ghost.

[Olick]

So the other day i was in me local graff store. (which i just found! Hella useful!) But Im a bit of a toy so I need some advice on inks. My friend made me a bvatch of his secret recipe ink. (I did that thing like 6 months ago or something and its still going strong!) Im not a huge fan of drips though. The ink I was thinking about getting was either a Artline 330 ml Black one or a Grog 250 ml (black). Theres a $20 price difference and Im kinda low on cash so if the grog is good quality ink then I'll get that one but if i need more money to buy better grade ink then I'll just wait.

so. grog is how much?!:eek:

[Stale-space]

$19.95 Australian at clinic 119 for 250 MLs.
But for artline which has 330 mls its like $30 aus. or something.....

[Stale-space]

Lol I mean clinic 116. Great store! They sell paint, caps, makers ink, even miniature blank subway cars!!! Im saving up to go on a spending spree and get like 80 markers some paint and a pack of a few caps.

[alexhate]

80 markers, what would you want with 80 markers, i mean i have prolly around 200 markers, but i didnt pay for them, and i really dont need them. i just have to have them. save your money man, seeing grog is 20 bucks, just get afew refillable markers and more ink.

[CROSS EM OUT AND PUT A K]

yoo is the silver in the k66 oil based? it doesnt really smell like it is but im not sure


cause i got like 1/6 of it left so it aint workin great any more but im gonna refill it with silver gk but i dono if theyll mix...

[FLIP FLOP]

im pretty sure its oil based but if your that worried get a little bit of the k66 paint and a little bit of your gk put it in a cup or something and see if they mix. im 99% sure its oil based though.

[ohgawdxcarcrash]

they'll mix perfectly fine. the silver krinks now in the k66, k71, and k60 are all the same oil based paint. its basically like silver Gk, except a little thicker and has a tint of chrome in it.

[illadelph]

i need to find some metal barreled markers like the jumbo pilots,but empty...my red,blue and green is ferocious...it turns the damn mini mops the color of the ink inside....you should see what it does when a ***** tries to paint over it though....mean shit...mean chemicals though...alcohol ain't gettin my shit off.....but if anyone might know where to grab some empty pilot-type markers holla at me...

[Olick]

with or without pump?

i kno u can order som off of arrowmark but as for the actual pilot bodys i have no idea.

pilot america makes thier own markers. so right now my guess ur best chance to get empty pilots is to call pilot themselves n ask.

[I Hold The Throne]

Has anyone actually made that LEATHER PAINT MIX from the Inks and Recipes thread? If so how is it and do u got a vid on youtube or something

[illadelph]

Has anyone actually made that LEATHER PAINT MIX from the Inks and Recipes thread? If so how is it and do u got a vid on youtube or something

I don't know about leather dye and paint,only because I never tried to mix the two...leather dye and ink most definitely works....try paint and woodstain...I know if you mix two different kinds of ink together (dye-based mixed with pigmented) it doesn't work out too well,so I would guess the leather dye and paint might not either...but I think homie in the post your talking about used leather dye and acrylic...which wouldn't really make sense to me...leather dye makes the stain,while the acrylic comes off with water...you would think to use oil-based paint and leather dye...but I don't know cuz.....that's just me talkin here...

[originalhomeboy]

I don't know about leather dye and paint,only because I never tried to mix the two...leather dye and ink most definitely works....try paint and woodstain...I know if you mix two different kinds of ink together (dye-based mixed with pigmented) it doesn't work out too well,

No diss dude but Marsh is pigmented ink and garvey is a dye ink and they mix fine.

Correct me if im wrong.

[H3TT1NG3R]

yea usually all shit mixes if its the same base, but its always to an extent, liek dont go around mixing acrylic with fuckin india ink

[illadelph]

No diss dude but Marsh is pigmented ink and garvey is a dye ink and they mix fine.

Correct me if im wrong.

u ever try and mix marsh rolmark and t-grade? it's like oil and water...that's what i meant bro...i never mixed garvey with marsh though......

[originalhomeboy]

u ever try and mix marsh rolmark and t-grade? it's like oil and water...that's what i meant bro...i never mixed garvey with marsh though......

yeah i see what you mean bro... different densitys maybe

ive heard t-grade and garvey works a treat but.

[illadelph]

NEW INK-ONLY FORUM NEEDS CONTENT---> www.therecipe.iforums.us

[ohgawdxcarcrash]

No diss dude but Marsh is pigmented ink and garvey is a dye ink and they mix fine.

Correct me if im wrong.

they mix perfectly fine, but since marsh is pigmented and garvey is dye based, it gets thicker after they both mix. its sort of like putting water in Gk, the bubbles will float on the surface. except with marsh and garvey, all you have to do is just shake it again and it'll work just fine also it'll beat the buff. unlike GK if mixed with water.

[Cesk]

Has anyone actually made that LEATHER PAINT MIX from the Inks and Recipes thread? If so how is it and do u got a vid on youtube or something

Yep, really nice stuff man. Just go downtown head to one of the shoe supply shit, they'll usually have leather dye there, I usually get black or violet ask them for paint for leather theyll give you whatever colour you ask and just mix that. But dont add DOT3 to it..

[Haze..]

Solvent inks noob :rolleyes:


N what about the alcohol in the ink??
That shits good but not for mixin with inks or anything.

[wpgtags]

i think india ink is great to thin acrylic with instead of water cuz its darker and not waterd down
violet acrylic+
black india ink


yea usually all shit mixes if its the same base, but its always to an extent, liek dont go around mixing acrylic with fuckin india ink

[SAID]

picturesssssssss.

[MUSEone]

God help this thread....please....

[SAID]

hahaha so muse, hows your ink comming along hombreee?
id text you, but you know im too caveman to buy a cellphone haha

[MUSEone]

Eh. Its ok, ive gotten to the point where i dont give a shit anymore, im out getting more ups than i used to so now its more along the lines of "quantity more than quality"

Cause i mean, lets say i get 100 tags in a nite, im pretty sure only 30-40 (maybe) will bet buffed.

Pm me nig.

[SAID]

i came to that conclusion a while back and eventually got lazy, so now its either acrylic with water or bought shit.

[MUSEone]

Exactly.

Did an acrylic tag the other day, im guessin the guy tried buffing it with a solevent cause the color is all over the place but the main tag is still there.

Should've used water first dumbfuck.

[EgoZen]

Acrylics don`t go off with water even though they are waterbased ;)

[SAID]

Exactly.

Did an acrylic tag the other day, im guessin the guy tried buffing it with a solevent cause the color is all over the place but the main tag is still there.

Should've used water first dumbfuck.

yeaaap.
happens all the time to me.

[MUSEone]

Acrylics don`t go off with water even though they are waterbased ;)

If i even scrubbed slightly it would have. haha

[Tiros1]

to whoever said marsh is pigment based

wtf

no

they make both pigment based and dye based

[cerex89]

Ghetto junobo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ7-KbifTcM

[Olick]

omg thats so fuckin awesome i swear i wasnt thier when ghetto junobo was first thought up of.

same shit as gk. hah.
breakfluid dont do shit. half the people who add it dont even kno why they add it

[originalhomeboy]

to whoever said marsh is pigment based

wtf

no

they make both pigment based and dye based

Should've clarified.

I meant T-Grade (Pigment) not K-Grade (Dye).

[EgoZen]

If i even scrubbed slightly it would have. haha

After it would have dried you would have to scrub hard

[To.The.Beat]

acrylic is very underrated

[H3TT1NG3R]

yea acrylics are actually pretty hard to buff, unless they use a scraper, then it like chips off. but most of it has latex in it, which makes it like a plastic when dried

[viseversa101]

watered down acrylic isnt very useful, str8 acrylic milked thru a kiwi mop with the hole in the nib is best..

[H3TT1NG3R]

ahha um...as long as its not liek 1/4 paint 3/5 water its fine. as long as its still opaue it stil wont come off

[viseversa101]

personally i dont like squeezing the shit out of a mop, after about 7 tagz fingers go numb n crampy

[H3TT1NG3R]

ahha no im saying you can water it down so u dotn have to squeeze it, just dotn water it too much, or add white if you do

[Vagrant]

Some new ink i'm working on, unlike anything on the market now. Main ingredient is DEFINITELY top secret.

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd274/vagrantone0/X_ink_bufftest.jpg

the goof off! started removing the high gloss enamel paint from the metal sign before it buffed the ink.
The Ink already has superior adhesion and stains
Violet Garvey is added for even more staining
Methylene Blue is also added for bleed-thru.

[H3TT1NG3R]

try buffing it with briush cleaner, if taht doesn't get it off then your good. cuz the inks ive been working on withstand all alcohols, and paint thinner, but brush remover is liek a mix of acetone, alcohols, and xyelene, ect.

[SAID]

hows it fade?

[Vagrant]

not sure about fading yet, I haven't tested yet but im getting on it. i just mixed this today.
well, considering I used Goof Off which is Xylene and Toluene based, and it didn't remove it before it started removing the paint, I think its good there.
I do wish it withstood the isopropyl a little better, but I dunno.
Lasek, you have any buff test flick of your inks?

[EgoZen]

For acrylics don˙t use more than 30% water and it`s nice ;)

[SAID]

i think you've posted that enough.
I think we all know now.
Thank you

[H3TT1NG3R]

yea i did, but my computer recently crashed and i lost ALL my files, so i dont have any ATM. but im in the process of makin another batch of bitumen ink, but im out of carbon :/ so once i get taht and finish it up ill show u how it is. the wierd think about tht type of ink tho is that it is REALLY hard to buff, liek u really have to scrub, but im not sure it leaves such a good stain, ill test it out later tho

[EgoZen]

i think you've posted that enough.
I think we all know now.
Thank you

Yeah but some still don`t know it as you may see, so shut up...

[SAID]

Dont tell me to shut up it wasnt intended to be a diss, calm down, I think you've seriously said it enough. & I use more than 30% water and it still works fine.

[Olick]

i piss on acrylics.

has neone ever tried polyurethane in acrylics? i kno thiers more bases for it but ive enver seen neone try it. im sure itll stop me pissin on things

[MUSEone]

OMG, u write?!

;)

[Olick]

i imagine myself doin it. i just wanna fit in with the cool kids :(

[MUSEone]

hahahaha

[Olick]

i swear i do not partake in illegal activitys
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o318/mrshee/Image001.jpg



just for laffs
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o318/mrshee/haha.jpg

[acereborn]

hmm... olick, where ya been? and wheres rogue been? i havent talked to him in a while...

[EgoZen]

Dont tell me to shut up it wasnt intended to be a diss, calm down, I think you've seriously said it enough. & I use more than 30% water and it still works fine.

You just use it but believe me I know more about acrylics than you will ever know...

Do you know why you do NOT add more than 30% water?..
Because the acrylic paint won`t form a stable paint film if it`s thinned
with more than 30% water..

Happy now?...
and now go and play nintendo

[Olick]

rogues in jail. ive drifted away from this online sensation.

yeah lol


lol patriots

[Olick]

fuck double post

might as well post this.
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o318/mrshee/Image126.jpg
small portion on my inkpaintbookthing

excuse my wonderfull handwriting

y=yello
cb=candyblue
lb=lightblue
p=pink
bb=i forgot haha


make ur own dam candy/baby colors.

[SAID]

Zen man, chill out.
For the second time im not trying to diss you, goddamn.
Thanks for the info though, appreciate it.

[acereborn]

You just use it but believe me I know more about acrylics than you will ever know...

Do you know why you do NOT add more than 30% water?..
Because the acrylic paint won`t form a stable paint film if it`s thinned
with more than 30% water..

Happy now?...
and now go and play nintendo

chill, he said it wasnt meant as a diss.

and rogue in jail? damn, how long for, and what for? i probably shouldnt be asking this, so answer if you please.

and olick, is that acrylic? looks pretty smooth

[Olick]

he got ratted out. buttsecks for who knows how long.

and nop. its plain rusto colors. different thinners n stuff in it though

[acereborn]

damn, that blows major cock =/

hope he gets out soon.
those rusto colors look sick too, esp. the 1p+1y mix. never thought about having a little inkpaintcolorbookthing. haha

thanks man, peace

[noxi]

I can never get acrylic to flow right through my mops. Ive thinned it down and it comes out streaky and i dont put enough and it barely comes out. What mop works best with it, ive used staz-on and some window writer mop with mo-hair. thanks

[Vagrant]

has neone ever tried polyurethane in acrylics?

ive tried using polyurethane. it helps beat the buff a little but not much at all. didnt really experiment that much with it.

[Olick]

i kno it rapes with linseedbased paints. but i never seen it in acrylics. all i kno is that it exist. and considering water n a lil scrubbin takes acrylic off im just wonderin if polyurethane makes a big difference in that. owel hah

[alexhate]

You just use it but believe me I know more about acrylics than you will ever know...

Do you know why you do NOT add more than 30% water?..
Because the acrylic paint won`t form a stable paint film if it`s thinned
with more than 30% water..

Happy now?...
and now go and play nintendo

trying to show of, at all online, let alone about how much you know about acrylics is about the same as bragging about how much you know about crayons.

that was ment as a dis.



chill out dude, acrylics have no up side, olick proves this with his color/recipe book, just cuz ppl dont know what a color wheel is and cant figure out how to make colors,dusint make acrylics cool or useful. and what person who is active in graffiti dusint have at least three thinners or solvents laying around.

[SAID]

i just use acrylics cause its much simpler and easier to get.
in my town they buff everything quick, so i might as well use acrylic.

[letsgobombin]

just made some acrylic using one third water. can anyone tell me if this is too much water or paint or is it just the brand/type of paint?
paint that i used on the right
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/letsgobombin_100/bdc2d9db.jpg
detail
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/letsgobombin_100/06cd9132.jpg
more detail
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/letsgobombin_100/512bf2f0.jpg
i always have trouble with coverage with acrylic, oil based comes out alot better for me but i was thinking if i could get some good acrylic it would be cheaper and easier

[fonone]

looks like shit.

edit: how the fuck can you not figure out acrylics... wow.

[letsgobombin]

cus i made the mistake of filling up a whole bottle before i tested it and now it looks shite, i dont know if its the marker not letting enough through, i used a bingo dabber with stock tip but with flow restrictor taken out and that came out better than bingo dabber with felt, i'm gonna go make some small samples now
edit: could've been the paint, it was childs redimix paint but it did say on the side 'dilute with water if necessary'

[SAID]

you dont need good acrylic to make it look good man.
i use dollar store paint and it works perfectly.

[EgoZen]

Here is some Zenstar Ocean Crunk.. (It is acrylic based but with some ingredients that
are rare and kinda hard to get if you don`t have bees at home ... Yes my father is
a beekeeper and I`m allergic to bee stings.. kinda ironic isn˙t it?)

(The lines are streaky because of the shitty marker I used(I just wanted to
see how the colour comes out ;)) )
http://a50.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/88/l_a184c32b376fecfa4464c536fa6220a9.jpg

[letsgobombin]

ye, might it be the silver, has anyone ever made acrylic silver? might be something in it like silver spray paint just absorbs paint and is a bugger to paint over, i got a 99p 500ml green, i'll try that

[SAID]

ive never tried silver, id stick to silver gk if i were you, try and make the colors really poppy with acrylic

[Vagrant]

New mix:

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd274/vagrantone0/inktest2.jpg

[H3TT1NG3R]

what is goof off

[Vagrant]

what is goof off

its a professional strength graffiti remover
it contains xylene and toluene among other things

[SAID]

this summer i worked for the city and had to buff some graffiti and goof off is actually pretty good.

[Vagrant]

was it community service for getting caught?
and how would you compare my ink to stuff you buffed?

[SAID]

no man it was actually a summer job i had and got paid 9.50 an hour ahahaha,
but anyways thats the best ghost i've seen all summer, and thats no lie hombre.

[ohgawdxcarcrash]

haha if i got paid to buff stuff, id start with the people i got beef with.

[SAID]

read my mind ahaha
it was cool cause id know everywhere id go buff the next day, so i can actually SEE which ink really beats the buff. **** indoors kills, i started removing it with goof off and it started to smudge EVERYWHERE, making a bigger mess than before, so my boss just told me to put some primer on it, but it kept bleeding through and after 3 coats, he just gave up hahaha
but yeah vagrant, no ink ive buffed, besides grog, came out with a ghost that dense

[Olick]

can u tell me exactly how you got the job?

i need money to finance my graffiti purposes =D

[silentchaos14]

just made some acrylic using one third water. can anyone tell me if this is too much water or paint or is it just the brand/type of paint?
paint that i used on the right
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/letsgobombin_100/bdc2d9db.jpg
detail
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/letsgobombin_100/06cd9132.jpg
more detail
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/letsgobombin_100/512bf2f0.jpg
i always have trouble with coverage with acrylic, oil based comes out alot better for me but i was thinking if i could get some good acrylic it would be cheaper and easier
kinda late but i dont think thats acrylic. judging by the "redimix ten" id say its tempera which is worse than acrylic. its used at schools because its cheaper and easier to remove than acrylic.

[illadelph]

kinda late but i dont think thats acrylic. judging by the "redimix ten" id say its tempera which is worse than acrylic. its used at schools because its cheaper and easier to remove than acrylic.

when you can see through the paint (what's left of it) that means there's too much water...use very little water when you play around with acrylics...it don't look like much,but a little water thins that shit out alot....use that 'flow release' stuff by "golden" if you wanna thin the paint....water just takes away from the paint...

[Vagrant]

but yeah vagrant, no ink ive buffed, besides grog, came out with a ghost that dense

awesome, thanks for the feedback

[EgoZen]

btw: it is TEMPERA!!...
you can see on the pic of the bottle it says:"redimix Tem(pera)"

[To.The.Beat]

it looks like the surface is repelling the water-based paint because of what's already on it.
try the same mixture on a different surface.
some surfaces such as doors will repel it also so try to bomb anything unprimed like raw wood or concrete and see how that turns out.

oh and yeah try to buy paint that actually says 'acrylic'
because it's better than that poster paint.
like somebodys already said

AND the stuff in bottle is generally already thin, especially tempera.
so just put some(without water) in a nice free flowing soft marker
and squeeze the fuck out if it / take out the regulator / rough up the nib if it's still not decent.

[SAID]

can u tell me exactly how you got the job?

i need money to finance my graffiti purposes =D
i just brought in my application, and they called me back hahaha


awesome, thanks for the feedback
anytime man!

[Olick]

i just brought in my application, and they called me back hahaha


anytime man!

lol can you be more specific? i dont even kno where to get the application. or how to contact the "city"

[SAID]

ahaha well you go to your town hall and ask if you can ask for the public works. i didnt only buff graff though, you gotta cut grass and pick up garbage, basically just keeping the city clean.

today i saw "glass stainer"
anyone know if its worth racking?

[Cesk]

ahaha well you go to your town hall and ask if you can ask for the public works. i didnt only buff graff though, you gotta cut grass and pick up garbage, basically just keeping the city clean.

today i saw "glass stainer"
anyone know if its worth racking?

What's it like?

[Olick]

[QUOTE=SAID;1198433]you gotta cut grass and pick up garbage[QUOTE]

hah...mexican
to keep ink related. hows that naptha stuff eh?

[H3TT1NG3R]

the bitumen ink? its good, but u gotta use it with a new marker, cuz it wont flow thru a nib thts been used with alcohol

[H3TT1NG3R]

heres a buff test on one of my ink/paints.
http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bufftestng0.jpg
it doesnt fade at all. and i didnt shake it up enuf, which is why the ethanol buff was splotchy haha

[Vagrant]

you forgot the flick

[H3TT1NG3R]

it was fucking up so i jjust dropped the link. its a work in progress though, im glad it doesnt fade, but it doesnt stain very hard, and is easy to buff if u have more than just alcohol. and its glossy :]

[Vagrant]

what is it?

[Olick]

please =]

[H3TT1NG3R]

bitumen ink. made from road tar. but im in the process of seeign which stainers mix best with naptha, so that i can get a good stain.

[Olick]

thats why i cant make ink.
where the fuck do i buy those things haha

bitumen, naptha, methanol, coaltar, carbon.

homedepot looks at me all funny n shit. =\

[Vagrant]

so bitumen ink is easy to buff with more than alcohol? and it doesnt stain? huh.. i thought it was better than that.

[H3TT1NG3R]

welll you really dotn need anythign for this but naptha and carbon. pm me if you want the recipe, i just dotn want it gettin out to EVERYONE

[H3TT1NG3R]

well MY bitumen ink isnt that good, because that batch i onyl put in a wee bit of gv. and yea its pretty easy to buff, im just showin u the pics as of now, but im still working on the recpie, but i got teh basics down. and its extremely inexpensive and easy to make

[Vagrant]

edit: Ya sooze ya lose

Carbon you could get from a hobby store that carries chemistry stuff. Or some quality artist charcoal but you need to grind it into a super fine powder.

PS denatured alcohol is ethanol with a little methanol to make it unpalatable , not isopropanol.

[Olick]

got it =D

[H3TT1NG3R]

nah dotn use heet, its not pure methanol, i asked biz that awhile ago and he laughed at me haha. and yea ik what denatured alcohol is. but yea for carbon thts the hardest to get.

[Vagrant]

i only said that cuz in your buff picture you said denatured alcohol (isopropanol) so which was it? not like it matters, but it held up alright to it.
It was just the xylene and toluene that kicked its ass.

[Olick]

burnt wood? thats how that make charcoal sticks *shit they use for art drawing* ghetto carbon? haha

[Vagrant]

charcoal sticks aren't just burned wood, they are baked. flame never touches the wood.

[H3TT1NG3R]

o woops i did say isopropanol. yea its denatured alchol not isopropanol. my b,

[Vagrant]

ok...

[SAID]

anyone try Shine Ink ?
heard its dope, any feedback?

[Cesk]

[QUOTE=SAID;1198433]you gotta cut grass and pick up garbage[QUOTE]

hah...mexican
to keep ink related. hows that naptha stuff eh?

:mad:

-

Anyone recommend Corio ink? I found some in Mexico for a cheap price.

[noxi]

Heard its only good for indoors, but maybe you could add stuff to it?

[CROSS EM OUT AND PUT A K]

how do u thin etch cream and dont say if u dont know dont use it cause thats stupid i know what to use i just dont know the best proportions

[EgoZen]

how do u thin etch cream and dont say if u dont know dont use it cause thats stupid i know what to use i just dont know the best proportions

1st of all: Move this question to the etch thread
2nd: don`t fuck with etch because it will fuck you up, specially
if you don˙t know what you`re doing...
3rd: just do stuff with ink not with etch..


Btw: get the new illadel black label, shit is hardcore ;)

[BizerkIZ]

There was and etch thread that i posted a huge huge page of info. but it got fucking deleted, it cleared up everything that people didn't know and understand. i will not write it out again.

[SAID]

:(

[Pharoah]

some goony was talkin bout petrolium distillates
can anyone elaborate?

[noxi]

I know this is a toy ass question but does anyone know a recipe to make some opaque black ink? Not some acrylic or GK but black opaque ink! Thanks

[Cesk]

I know this is a toy ass question but does anyone know a recipe to make some opaque black ink? Not some acrylic or GK but black opaque ink! Thanks


PEN INK
by: Hint (Jet)

WHAT YOU WILL NEED:

pens (40 per 1/2 cup of alcohol, at Target they were 10 for $.35)


alcohol (at least 91%, at Target it costs $1.79)


measuring cup


jar with lid


bottle to put finished ink in (not pictured)


ok so get your pens ready, for this batch I used 90 black pens and 10 blue pens to make 1 and a half cups of ink. Normally I would use more pens but since there was a lot of leftover residue from my last batch of ink I used a litle bit less.


now measure our your alcohol and pour it into your jar. The ratio that I reccomend is at least 40 pens per half cup but you can do whatever you want.


cut the pens about an inch below the tip, you can use scissors but it fucks them up, I use wire cutters.


toss the top of the pen in and pull the white tube out of the body.


if you hold the tube up to a light, you can see that less than half of it actually has ink in it. cut the tube where the ink ends and toss the piece with the ink onto your jar, this saves space because if you don't do it, you won't be able to get all of your pens wet enough for the alcohol to suck out the ink.

this picture is a uncut tube next to the part of the tube that actually has ink in it.


as you can see it is ok for the pens not to be covered by the alcohol as long as at least one of the sides is under the alcohol.


let it sit overnight.

this is what mine looked like in the morning.


now pour it into the bottle you keep your ink in, be careful to not get and of the tubes in.


this is a drip from transferring bottles, I put it here so you can see how opaque the ink is even before I added anything.


add ins:

Dot 3
reburnt paper
other inks/dyes etc.

for this batch all I added was about a cap of Dot 3.


Usually comes out opaque, if you want to see the tutorial with pics:
http://www.bombingscience.com/graffitiforum/showthread.php?t=3855

[noxi]

Already made that but thats more of a purple. I want like Black not some violet or purple but black. Thanks though.

[illadelph]

I know this is a toy ass question but does anyone know a recipe to make some opaque black ink? Not some acrylic or GK but black opaque ink! Thanks

www.illadelstylez.com

[noxi]

Haha, your shit looks dope but im not interested in buying. Just want to make some good black homemade ink.

[Olick]

www.illadelstylez.com

hahhah straight n to the point.



india ink. cheap. lots of it. and its ink.

[letsg0skate]

yeah get india ink from micheals or you can get like waterproof higgins it's black and very opaque and before anyone says it sucks, it doesn't. It just buffs easy but it doesn't fade and I live in phoenix, the sunniest hottest place ever. Anything will be buffed anyway that they really want to, so instead of wasting your time making super duper buff proof ink use that time to get up and it wont matter what gets buffed.

[BizerkIZ]

:(

You can make etch streaks, hell yeah etch streaks.

[SAID]

:eek:
hint please ?

[Vagrant]

im guessing biz isn't going to just tell anyone...

[cerex89]

hey ILLADEL can u do a video on all your inks and then buff them so i can see how it handels

[Vagrant]

as soon as I get his stuff in the mail i'll do buff tests and post the results
should be in a day or two.

[candykiller]

My friend wanted to know if thinned down paint(something super liquidy) could be put into a marker. Oh, and could you find tee juice markers at Micheals?

[Vagrant]

it would suck balls and be all streaky

[Olick]

and fade from the top.


unless u kno the right thinner ;)

[*KWIC*]

anyone know if adding water to acrylic paint will make for my markers???
i need to know bcuz i just racked a few bottles of acrylic paint from my art class and i heard adding water to them will make some perfect paint for my window marker...

[H3TT1NG3R]

read third post up...

[Mr yarbles]

yeah get india ink from micheals or you can get like waterproof higgins it's black and very opaque and before anyone says it sucks, it doesn't. It just buffs easy but it doesn't fade and I live in phoenix, the sunniest hottest place ever. Anything will be buffed anyway that they really want to, so instead of wasting your time making super duper buff proof ink use that time to get up and it wont matter what gets buffed.

Word fuck I hate AZ the buffs hard out here they'll go over anything you have
Lately they've been covering in dark gray or black
It fucking sucks

pen ink usually does good stuff
or acrylic I got some silver acrylic up at micheals and it's sick

[MontanaPainter]

PRAYSE
KIWI GREEN PAINT MIXTURE
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e337/blackmatch456/P1020230.jpg

[MontanaPainter]

Word fuck I hate AZ the buffs hard out here they'll go over anything you have
Lately they've been covering in dark gray or black
It fucking sucks

pen ink usually does good stuff
or acrylic I got some silver acrylic up at micheals and it's sick

word?

brand name?

any action flix

cuz i dont wanna make anymore gk

[Vagrant]

put your weak acrylic in a mop, not a marker.

[MontanaPainter]

amen^^

honestly though,
GK is worth the effort
acrylic colors will fade if mixed
in like a week, no joke


http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e337/blackmatch456/P1020232.jpg
olive/kiwi color PRAYSE

[Cesk]

anyone know if adding water to acrylic paint will make for my markers???
i need to know bcuz i just racked a few bottles of acrylic paint from my art class and i heard adding water to them will make some perfect paint for my window marker...

What kind of window marker? Ghetto flowpen or squeezer?

[MontanaPainter]

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e337/blackmatch456/P1020236.jpg

[Olick]

that looks really dam clean hah. recipe maybe? or is it a special gk mix? =D

[BAGZ90]

I saw this stuff called sun guard in ac moore today....its this powder you put in with your laundry and it makes an invisable layer on your clothes to protect you from uv rays....would it help ink last longer in the sun if I added it? It says it contains ciba tinasorb,Sodium Chloride and Nonionic Surfactants.

[*KWIC*]

squeezer. looks just like this Junobo mop..http://www.bombingscience.com/images/marker-junobomop-1.jpg
only my marker has a flat bottom..not as pointy.

[EgoZen]

anyone know if adding water to acrylic paint will make for my markers???
i need to know bcuz i just racked a few bottles of acrylic paint from my art class and i heard adding water to them will make some perfect paint for my window marker...

MOP not window marker!
The paint won`t flow through a window marker nib..
And use it like junobo ;)

[MUSEone]

squeezer. looks just like this Junobo mop..http://www.bombingscience.com/images/marker-junobomop-1.jpg
only my marker has a flat bottom..not as pointy.

That mop has a flat bottom....

[Mr yarbles]

http://i33.tinypic.com/14lj2f8.jpg
That's the stuff
http://i38.tinypic.com/9sw3cy.jpg
That's the only action flick I got sorry :/
I'll get a better one tonight

It goes on a grayish color but the next day it pops a nice silver

bagz go for it it's always good to experiment

[illadelph]

squeezer. looks just like this Junobo mop..http://www.bombingscience.com/images/marker-junobomop-1.jpg
only my marker has a flat bottom..not as pointy.

that pointed bottom is only the cap turned upside down...

[gcrolla]

Needed to make some ink so I made some of that pen ink. Used 10 red pens and 15 black, came out with such a sick color. Its like a maroon almost.

[illadelph]

Needed to make some ink so I made some of that pen ink. Used 10 red pens and 15 black, came out with such a sick color. Its like a maroon almost.

you gots to use alot of pens...like at least 100 for 8oz of alcohol.....that ink is probably thin as hell....use mad pens bro.....MAD PENS...

[Cesk]

Needed to make some ink so I made some of that pen ink. Used 10 red pens and 15 black, came out with such a sick color. Its like a maroon almost.

How much ink came out from that??

[gcrolla]

Nah I only made enough to fill a kiwi so however big that is, i think its like 2oz

[simple zen]

it should sound rather whack but here it goes...

i figure i can get my name up at better times, better spots, and more often if i find something i can write on rugged concrete with. mop? thicker ink? please help i hate seeing shitty dull tags on concrete poles. it's sort of a tougher surface and meanstreaks and poster markers filled with ink do not react well.

[Cesk]

it should sound rather whack but here it goes...

i figure i can get my name up at better times, better spots, and more often if i find something i can write on rugged concrete with. mop? thicker ink? please help i hate seeing shitty dull tags on concrete poles. it's sort of a tougher surface and meanstreaks and poster markers filled with ink do not react well.

Rugged concrete? I would say a black pilot tbqh. The nib puts up and its thick. Either that get these:
http://www.traceypackaging.com/catalog.asp?prodid=520711&showprevnext=1
http://www.traceypackaging.com/catalog.asp?prodid=520710&showprevnext=1
And fill it with your shit if you're into colours.

Chalkboard eraser nibs usually put up throught some rough surfaces for me.

[Baron]

Tried getting some silver caligraphy ink today at micheals but i was nt about to shell out $8 for it. I was just going to put it in a box of higgins, buy and get out bc my micheals is sketch as it is. Well i was just about to transfer the inks when a store manger comes up and pretends to take inventory. He sttod there until i left. After I saw him leave I went back and someone else stood at the other end of the aisle and he stood on the other end. I just said fuck it and got a silver marker and used that ink.

I added a little too much silver to my green ink but I'll just add some more ink later...