The Ink Discussion Thread

[Buhda420]

hahaha harry just got owned id tell him but i was watching mr brooks

but yes we were all new

[harry]

have any of you used the office depot brand ink for stamps its got like a plastic ball on it that you need to remove to pour, its super think and high staining already, its great!

GET SOME

when poeple say things like this its hard not to laugh man but alright next time some one says some thing incorrect or asks a toy question ill help rather than hinder.

[Jet]

Forever in Control Ink is the same as Gusto and Ooze.

it's just GK.

(for the kid that asked a couple pages back)

[Vagrant]

Printer Ink is waterbased. All you can get for colors is black, magenta, cyan, and yellow. Some printers on the market do use more colors than that (like light magenta, etc) but its a rip off and not needed for printing.
These inks are highly transparent and not really worth the effort. Besides, you would have to find a source of the ink in a bulk container for refilling cartridges or you will go broke buying cartridges for the ink.

For people like Harry:
While saying phail and laughing at stupid questions may make you seem better than the other person because you are making fun of their stupidity, helping them instead makes you 5x better than laughing.

[Yuckasfuck]

How about an ink/paint FAQ thread?
A mod could copy the usual shit that gets asked on here constantly into a stickied locked thread.
Just a thought...

[Vagrant]

instead of making a third ink thread, this one could be used for that purpose.

[Sintakz]

Or you know, the STICKIED INK RECIPES THREAD?? Just a suggestion

[Vagrant]

haha.. i thought thats what he ment..

i guess my brain just couldn't comprehend the stupidity of another locked stickied thread so it assumed.

[rave905]

i thought we where gonna go thur the old one n make a faq but emnity just deleted it n made a new 1 it doesnt change nething except this 1 is only 13 pages now n the other was 700

[harry]

yeah alright i already said ill help next time

[SAID]

i seen some "glass stain" today.
worth racking and trying out, or itll probably get buffed easy?

[harry]

i dont think glass is possible to stain its to dense or some thing i dunno ask sintaks

[Rogue]

It's utter shit, throw it away.

[SAID]

thought so.
thanks rogue

[Buhda420]

u can stain glass just takes too long
other wise how do you get stain glass windows
like in churches and shit

so in other words its shit

[Sintakz]

Me and Rogue discussed stained glass windows. They add in the colours while the sand is melting and such.

[##sable##]

yeah, the colours are added when the glass ingredients and additives are added and melted. so the only way to colour glass permanently is to add the colour to the sand when it is first melted. otherwise, no. yeu cannot colour glass.

[rave905]

ive seen this shit that like laminates itself over the glass n its pretty hard 2 get off but i guess if u got a razor....
but they where all shitty ass colors
if u looked from far away it looks like a shitty etch mix

[Buhda420]

yeah, the colours are added when the glass ingredients and additives are added and melted. so the only way to colour glass permanently is to add the colour to the sand when it is first melted. otherwise, no. yeu cannot colour glass.
i had never thought of that well i tip my hat to you sir

[EaseOne]

whats a good place to get ink, or
good ink to get?

[Vagrant]

read the stickied ink recipe thread
it contains a lot of information on how to make your own inks and paints. it also contains information on inks you can buy - inks meant for graff and other inks.
If you want to buy graff inks check out any graff supply site. Good inks to buy include Do 'Em Dirty, ****, Grog, Garvey, etc.

Chances are you are just starting out with markers and inks and stuff so just straight India Ink would be good for you. India Ink is easily washed off and doesn't stain at all, but you don't need permanent ink if you are new to markers and inks.
After you READ THE INK RECIPE THREAD you should know more about inks and how to make different kinds and can move on to more permanent and hard-staining inks.

[Buhda420]

you really should be a mod u help out more than one

[kave0n3]

so when people say fish oil capsules do they mean omega 3 salmon oil pills?

[AEROSOL_FEEN]

omg...
im making so much profit off of ded...
buy the ink for $15...
fill up like 5+ zig postermans with them
sell the filled zigs for $10 each...
i love dEd.
so far i've made $90 by doing this....
no joke...
minus like $30 from buying the ink
so $60 profit.
whoo!

[Sintakz]

Yea most members help more than mods, especially in the tools and tips forum but hey, the "higher ups" are also the ones who barely know shit.

[mmmburgers]

umm... im just curious..
how do you use etch?
what do you mix it with?
...its just been bothering me for a while

[Just Another]

I'm pretty sure you don't mix etch... But I don't fuck with that shit, I'm not about to ruin my life...

[harry]

you do mix etch you can mix it with vinegar i beleive or you can mix the cream with the liquid or some shit dont fuck with it though its to mean unless your doing train windows then im down haha

[rave905]

yeah u mix bath n cream
dun fuck with etch tho
u get way more then graff charges if u get usted with that shit

[Rogue]

you do mix etch you can mix it with vinegar i beleive or you can mix the cream with the liquid or some shit dont fuck with it though its to mean unless your doing train windows then im down haha

Wrong, you can't mix cream with vinegar/coke/whatever.

You have to mix it with Etch Bath to get any results. I make my mix

1/3 cream
2/3 bath

OR

2/4 cream
2/4 bath

But usually most people that ask about etch shouldn't fuck with it.

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

Any One ever tryed putting motor oil in ink batches ?...pretty sure sumones tryed it..i was thinking ..in the summer all u see on the floor is oil stains..and they never come out...even there the rain..and cars n shit going over it

but will it work in ink

[rave905]

yeah n its not even the whole part about ur gonna burn ur hands off or fuckin or get charged hardcore its ur not good enuf 2 put stuff up permanently

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

LMFAO ?...how am i gonna BURN MY HANDS OFF ?...

ive tryed it alredii....
i jus dont know if im doing it for nothing

[Just Another]

Hey was talking about the etch posts on the last page... Rogue mentioned mixing paint with ink a while back but I don't remember details...

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

O LMfao...im here like ..wtf ?
burn my hands off ?....

[sir.one]

lol.. your hands will be fine, just be careful and prepare for the consequences.

[Sintakz]

ETCH IS NOT INK, GET THE FUCK BACK ON TOPIC.

Motor oil is one of the stupidest additives in the world, the thing is as thick as fucking petroleum jelly (hmm I wonder why, maybe because it is made from petroleum...) and will take forever and a day to dry. Unless you are tagging some uber fucking chill ass spot where it won't get rained on or touched for a good 2-3 days your tag will just get smeared to shitville.

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

nice fucking answer..

ps neva said ETCH was ink...dick lick ..

HAVE A NiCE DAY

[Kruxos]

haha this kids a dumbass.

he wasnt talking to u about the etch

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

W.E.

neva givin a shitt

[djsupreeme]

motor oil wont come off in the rain.. u ever try to get that shit off ur hands with water lmfao

[Vagrant]

@ The_NaMEz: You're not the center of the world, stop thinking everyone is talking to you. Oil in ink is dumb and sintakz explained why.

@ Rogue: Come'on rogue. I'm sure you mean 1/2 cream and 1/2 bath, not 2/4 cream and 2/4 bath. 2/4 would be just plain crazy.

@ Buhda: Thanks, but Sintakz has been helping people a lot more than I. He's on more during busy times so he gets more questions answered.

@ Kave0n3: Yes by fish oil capsules they mean any fish oil pills. Usually something like Omega 3 Cod Liver Oil or something. Personally, I don't use fish oil pills, I either just stick with DOT3 Brake Fluid or use straight Liquid Fish Oil. The pills just make handy measuring units.

[Sintakz]

yea but it'll smear to shit

[Vagrant]

not to mention fresh oil is not black.
and used black oil doesn't really stain dark at all.

too much talk about motor oil.

[sir.one]

ima start using just motor oil in mops. real grimy shit.

[Vagrant]

go drink some coolant while you're at it...

the green anti-freeze tastes like lemon-lime!

[Sintakz]

^^^ Speaks the truth.

To each his own though I suppose. Ok, so the Chinese dudes probably ripped me off on my solvent dyes that I've been waiting on to start my ink so I come to the peeps at BS. Anyone know of a good solvent dye supplier here in the states?

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

ima start using just motor oil in mops. real grimy shit.

LMFAOO !!!


ne way..i jus got done doing the "iNK PeN BATCH"

shit iz crazyyy ..a definite must if u lyke drips...

or if u jus like good ink

[letsg0skate]

Can you please type like a normal human. Typing iz instead is does not make you a "g"

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

idk maybe i can

[rave905]

^^^and u bitch aout talking about etch sintakz at least its realted to tools and tips about graff and we always talk about paint in here and thats not much more diff from ink then etch is
all 3 u can put in a mop and tag with


LMFAOO !!!


ne way..i jus got done doing the "iNK PeN BATCH"

shit iz crazyyy ..a definite must if u lyke drips...

or if u jus like good ink

you dont have to make it drippy its acually better the thicker it is

[Sintakz]

Yes I will not deny that it is a tool used in graffiti. The reason why Paint is so often brought up in the Ink discussion thread is because most people are idiots and don't realize that you can't make ink out of paint, it's just thinned fucking paint, in a mop/marker. The reason why it is even allowed is because the original posters of the original thread brought up shit like gk and shit so paint has become part of the ink head "culture". Etch has NOTHING to do with ink OR paint, if you wanna talk about etch go start a fucking etch thread, don't clog this thread up with posts about etch. I as well as a few others in this thread are taking the time to actually mini mod this fucking thread because god knows if we leave it up to the real mods this thread will go to shit again, we try are hardest to keep shit on topic and report the posts that need to be reported. Etch is OFF TOPIC in this thread so please refrain from talking about it. If you don't like it then fuck off, DISCUSSING ETCH WILL BE PROHIBITED IN THIS THREAD.

[/rant]

Anyway, who's been experimenting lately?

[rave905]

holy shit settle down budday
n nah i have been sorta stickin 2 the same ink recipie 4 now ive been workin on my bombs lately

[Sintakz]

Sorry, my rant wasn't really directed towards you, I've been having a pretty shitty week and all, didn't mean to blow up on you.

I'm gonna start working with different bases for inks, like instead of alcohol how bout like idk... something else haha

[rave905]

lol dun worry bro i didnt really take it personally
its not like we even KNOW each other outside of bs lol
so what can i do.... rant bak

oh and i heard somewhere(i think it was from bizerkiz) that WATER is an awsome base for ink
like even if u just add a bit 2 ur ink it helps even tho its not the base it..... idk

enuf typing 2 of my fingers r frostbiten from day bombin today
it was -29 w/ wind chill n im talkin celsius

[MESN[905]]

anyone kno if theres a black stainer? like yah i know of mb pp gv mg and those but i dont really want a nice jet black ink havin like a tint of a color and shit on it


an ya rave man haha ur fingers are still fucked eh? u shoulda copped those camo gloves instead of those gay furry ones haha my hands were nice an toasty

[kog_throwie]

would it be a good idea to add waterproofer to an ink?

[Sintakz]

Kog - If your ink isn't waterproof then yes
Rave - Water is good but india ink is waterbased so you can see what kinda effects you get from that.
MESN - Rogue posted it a few pages back, go do some research.

[DRIPS!]

water proofer probly wouldnt work because its made to repel other substances and make them bead up i dont think they would mix but cant hurt to try right

ahh beat me to it sintakz

[Sintakz]

Haha, sick and still here for ya. I love the ink thread that much :P

[MESN[905]]

Wrong, you can't mix cream with vinegar/coke/whatever.

You have to mix it with Etch Bath to get any results. I make my mix

1/3 cream
2/3 bath

OR

2/4 cream
2/4 bath

But usually most people that ask about etch shouldn't fuck with it.

and i bet your mixes are shit

cream is strong, bath is kinda weak

2/3 cream 1/3 bath makes it a drippy consistency but its better to go 3/4 cream 1/4 bath if u want a stronger mix but it wont drip much cause cream is fucken thick

and you CAN dilute cream with vinegar its just not as strong as the cream/bath mixes

EDIT: lmfao the rent-a-cop pmed me check it out

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/2161/lmfaogq1.jpg

[rave905]

Rave - Water is good but india ink is waterbased so you can see what kinda effects you get from that.
k 4 the record i no water isnt good i was just really baked then an rambling jokingly but i didnt even finish it

[rave905]

Yes I will not deny that it is a tool used in graffiti. The reason why Paint is so often brought up in the Ink discussion thread is because most people are idiots and don't realize that you can't make ink out of paint, it's just thinned fucking paint, in a mop/marker. The reason why it is even allowed is because the original posters of the original thread brought up shit like gk and shit so paint has become part of the ink head "culture". Etch has NOTHING to do with ink OR paint, if you wanna talk about etch go start a fucking etch thread,

k if u didnt notice the ppl that started the orig ink thread didnt no shit all the recipies that were posted were wack as shit, mixing ink and paint and adding brakefluid 2 paint and calling it ink and other such wackyness

n there is already an etch thread n its fuct cuz every1's like oh no dont talk about etch, etch is the devil, THE DEVIL AHHHHHHHHHH
like i no its kinda fuct up but u should at least tell these ppl the proper shit so they arnt like hey i think ill add some etch 2 that pen ink of mine.... u no the end
fuckin etch/ink bomb gonna blow up in the kids hand

cuz u no that by not talking about it ur just forcing ppl 2 experiment 2 learn

just my 2 cents no offence

[Sintakz]

I understand where you are coming from but thats like someone going into a graff forum and asking about how to do backflips. Sure, some people may know how to do backflips but it's kinda out of place you know. Whatever, I'm hitting the hay. G'night ink heads.

[rave905]

that doesnt really make sence cuz etch IS used 4 graff and backflips have nothin whatsoever 2 do with graff
n im off 2 bed 2 b ez

[sir.one]

we're going to rename this thread. anything that come out of a marker thread now.

so now you can talk about anything that comes out of a marker.

[MESN[905]]

or a mop mang =]

cant forget about them mops it aint al about the markers son!

[Sintakz]

Well then goodbye ink thread, I shant be coming back.

[rave905]

hahahahaha peace then
i bet we'll c u again

[sir.one]

byebye :)

staining acrylic be banging.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2193/2256192301_442477108c.jpg?v=0

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

^^^and u bitch aout talking about etch sintakz at least its realted to tools and tips about graff and we always talk about paint in here and thats not much more diff from ink then etch is
all 3 u can put in a mop and tag with



you dont have to make it drippy its acually better the thicker it is



why is the ink better the thicker it is ?....what does it stain more harder?

[MontanaPainter]

byebye :)

staining acrylic be banging.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2193/2256192301_442477108c.jpg?v=0
fuck yea my acrylic "special" mix lasted through the buff...



**** didnt though

[MESN[905]]

haha i love using acrylics

cheap quick and dope colors

plus its easy to clean if you spill it

an banks its better thicker cause itll be more opaque and cover better and yes it will stain kinda better

[sir.one]

;1002370']haha i love using acrylics

cheap quick and dope colors

plus its easy to clean if you spill it

how correct you are.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2385/2164897963_3a294a789b.jpg?v=1199436066

[MESN[905]]

thats quite the mess you have there haha

i always mix mi acrylics too thick though so they streak which is bunk :(

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/1311/hpim0115hn4.jpg

[MontanaPainter]

yay! pics sir

<3

what you use for mops w/ acrylic?

[MESN[905]]

any mop works bro

it all depends wat ones u like the most

i use stampendous an teejuices personaly

[MontanaPainter]

i know but...

how does paint flow through staz-ons?

[MESN[905]]

it flows well.. just like every other mop lol

just take out the restrictor

[Enmity]

byebye :)

staining acrylic be banging.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2193/2256192301_442477108c.jpg?v=0


dope red mr. sir
.. i got a huge bottle of **** .. so far so good . haven't had problems but gotta wait to see how the buff goes .

u know that homo stinker will be back ..anything goes in this thread.
fuk what ya herd .

etch bath is good straight out the bottle fill your mop and hit the streets

[actual factual]

etch bath isnt that strong so you shouldnt use it straight outta the bottle...

just use it to thin the cream :S

[MontanaPainter]

hrmmm... whenever i get staz-on mops the nibs are like completly flat when i take out the regulater.

like it scrapes the plastic when you write

[actual factual]

thats weird they always work good for me

the stazon ripoffs are better anyways (stampendous)

[sir.one]

etch bath isnt that strong so you shouldnt use it straight outta the bottle...

just use it to thin the cream :S

bzzzt. wrong.

cream makes the tag whiter, while the bath it self eats into the glass. I would personally just use bath.

[MontanaPainter]

ding ding ding we have a winner!


this isnt a etch thread though

[sir.one]

we're going to rename this thread. anything that come out of a marker thread now.

so now you can talk about anything that comes out of a marker.
brrap

[MontanaPainter]

how do corio and nero hold up to buff/sun?

[djsupreeme]

good ridance that that sintakz emo cosplay loser is outta here.

[sir.one]

how do corio and nero hold up to buff/sun?

shit. expecally corio. all nero is is leather dye.

[MontanaPainter]

ok thx.
and djsupreeme...stfu he was fucking better than you

[letsg0skate]

Sintaks was annoying yes but at least he helped this thread.

[BLTZ]

have a question about kiwi mops, should I immediatly replace the shoe polish with ink or am I good to use the polish until its empty, then replace it, the polish is ink based atleast

[sir.one]

i've used the kiwi ink just alone before. works fine. as long as it doesn't rain in the next day or two.

but if you HAVE ink. then i would just use that instead.

[BLTZ]

cool thanks I already used the stock ink for a bunch of handys around the city, thinking of replacing it with gold ink or silver

[Dont412Sleep]

ha i hit a hand like 4 months ago with some kiwi ink and its still runnin strong

[rave905]

man i did a tag with a crayon once n its still runnin lol
it will till sum1 buffs it n its on a telephone pole so i bet no1 will

[Dont412Sleep]

i drew on some girls face with a marker full of grog while she was sleeping..


its been like 3 or 4 days

and its still running strong

[rave905]

hahahaha
what u do is u get a highlighter and u draw sumthin on thier face whiel they r sleepin but like in 2-3 hours go n gently wash it off so they cant c it
n then 4 like the next 3-4 days if they go in room w/ a blacklight u can c it n sumone will tell them n they go 2 the bathroom 2 look in the mirror n they cant c it its so funny

i did it with my buddy and a dick drawn fuckin hularious

[Dont412Sleep]

dude what you do is you inject methylene blue into your nutsack then you skeet in a bitches mouth...

then her mouth will be blue! like for 2 weeks

[Buhda420]

who the fuck says "skeet"
were are u from tasmainia
haha
12oz profit has so many toys on it there like "can i mix paint with ink to make it stain harder" and there like "yeah i fink u can"

[BLTZ]

I didnt ask that tho I just asked if the stock ink was any good

[Buhda420]

no its shite
make your own paint/ink
its al in the ink recipe thread
but yes my urine alone stains more than it does

[rave905]

i love taggin snow

[Buhda420]

hahaha

there no snow

in newsouth wales at this time of year

[rave905]

well shit i live in canada and it was snowing today
mad windy too i went day bombing and got frostbite on my finger it still hurts when i touch nethin
it was -29 celsius w/ windchill n thats during the day

i have offically quit bombing untill its warm again im tired of frozen paint n fingerz

[harry]

lol hate to live in canada

jokesss

[Buhda420]

haha glad to see u using the metric system with celsius and what not

it was like 40 degrees celsius today
not to hot

[DRIPS!]

man 40 degrees celcius is like 107 degrees ferenheight that fuckin hot mane

[rave905]

yeah 40 is like almost record high for canada

[harry]

hahha buhda your fucked in the head i dont do shit on 40 degree days accept lay down and die off heat

[rave905]

yeah the 40 days r when u lie in ur bed naked in front of a fan and still sweat ur ass off lol

[fonone]

loool i live in perth was like 40 here too :).

so yea ive got a question, i dont need the usual flame about it being a toy question as i know it is but can i use mineral turps for pen ink as a substitute for "denatured alcohol" as i cant seem to find any denatured alcohol in aussie :confused:

[harry]

you have safe way ine perth yeah?
well im guessing you do any way at safe way go to the section were all the condoms and shit are and then some were around there theres all disinfectants and stuff well right next to were the detol is therte should be something called isopropyl alcohol get that its zactly the same as denatured

[fonone]

ahh awesome thanks man. will have to find me a safways...

[Yuckasfuck]

Safeway here in the UK has been called Morrisons for like 2 years now lol, might be the same where you are.
N the mineral turps or w.e u have is probably white spirit or the like, use it for GK.

[SAID]

whats a good aditive to nero or grog ?

[Vagrant]

methylene blue
garvey
each other

[BizerkIZ]

whats a good aditive to nero or grog ?


nero : gentain violet...

carbon black, evapourated contents of india/china ink, same with dyes ect.
refined butane black detrobenzine... (even fucking purer bitches.. no carbonation!!!)

but really, for you.. gentain violet, methylene blue.. mythyl violate, mythyl feucia ect...

same with grog, but it needs to be in vaster quantitys (not the meth blue, the solute will become saturated..)
grog is too thin, but plentyfull dark..

add in pen ink, and maybe kool aid powder.. coloured gums ect... (not fruit gums you burk)

in fact yeah.. find a good coloured addhecive chemical gumming agent.



OH YEAH.. IM BACK BITCHES.

[kog_throwie]

the writer tokyo in toronto put up a tag in 98 with the orginal white kiwi mop polisher that was in it.

oh and you think it would be a good idea to add that prank gum that like turns your mouth red for like a week into your ink?

[FidelGastro]

Well thats a good swap, sintakz for BizerkIZ
sintakz was salted after his mod app got rejected and all he did was sulk about everything
then he tried to mini mod to boost his e-ego
maybe he knew his ink stuff but on the reals that aint everythin. He'll be back anyways, he always comes back, he jsut goes away until we beg him to come back haha still more ego boosting for him? fuck that, dont beg him to come back there are plenty of other kids on here who know whats up. And with him gone y'all will do more experimenting and less just asking.

SO THIS IS RELATED TO INKS
mix corio violet and grog black and it will stain hard and lweave purple ghost. mmmmmm

[ekimboi1]

the snitch left?

[BizerkIZ]

Well thats a good swap, sintakz for BizerkIZ
sintakz was salted after his mod app got rejected and all he did was sulk about everything
then he tried to mini mod to boost his e-ego
maybe he knew his ink stuff but on the reals that aint everythin. He'll be back anyways, he always comes back, he jsut goes away until we beg him to come back haha still more ego boosting for him? fuck that, dont beg him to come back there are plenty of other kids on here who know whats up. And with him gone y'all will do more experimenting and less just asking.

SO THIS IS RELATED TO INKS
mix corio violet and grog black and it will stain hard and lweave purple ghost. mmmmmm


hahah thanks bro,

but seriously.. some people who concidered them selves in the ink head catagory, (excluding rogue) didn't know much, they knew a few msds here and there, names of things, but didn't know how things work, what make what, whats good, whats usefull. and most importantly, experience..

they posted weak ass stuff, and then another posted something like..

ahh nice man..

useless..

beleve me, experience is everything...
6 years bro, 5 and a half making juice.


but i have to say.. fucking 1000% props for going out, doing making and researching more than ever, and being smart in the first place.. to all of them

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

the other day i made some ink from black ink pens...and added some dot 3 and meth blue

so to test it out i hit up the truck out side near my housre....yea it was sick but..then today im walkin home from skool...and theres this lady and her little son trying to buff out my tag..all i hear was.. "no u hav to use more this stuff is tough" it was fucked up in a way cuz it was a fuckin kid tryna buff out my tag ...like 9 or 10 !..

so i walked right passed them as they tried too...


so later i went back to check it out..the most they did was fade the color...fucked up thing bout it is...someone did a throwie on it .with paint of coarse and its mostly gone ...but they couldent get my tag out LMAOO


The quality of home made ink :-D

[ish_805]

quick question......

i have $20 and i wanted to know wats the best shit i can buy with that....

quantity over quality(as long as it htb)

[SAID]

****kk.
or DED

thanks for the additives, seriously

[ish_805]

****kk.
or DED

thanks for the additives, seriously

wat dos that mean

[SAID]

get ****, or do em dirty.
but if you can, ****kk!
http://www.****artltd.com/

[Rogue]

Yay Bizerk!

And for $20 you could make A LOT of ink homemade that will stain fine...

Check the stickied ink thread.

[Rogue]

the writer tokyo in toronto put up a tag in 98 with the orginal white kiwi mop polisher that was in it.

oh and you think it would be a good idea to add that prank gum that like turns your mouth red for like a week into your ink?

Wouldn't really help do anything. Gum is waterbased, and the dye they usis food dye, which is edible. Anything edible is bad for ink, you want the toxic shit.

If you really want red dye, and have some money your willing to spend, order some solvent red, search google. Solvent red is in red DED, just so you know.

If not, stick with pen ink.

[SAID]

anything i can add to ink so it doesnt spread when its cold?

[letsg0skate]

with pen ink, what do you guys use to open the pens? seems to me like cutting 100 pens in half with scissors would take a longggg time

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

you jus pull out the pen tube from the body of the pen...
and yea it does take a long time lolz...
just do a few at a time then ?

its worth it tho...becuase after u put the pen tubes into the bottle the alchohol does the rest of thee work for you

[letsg0skate]

alright, but yeah sometimes you can't pull em out, but Ill try finding the ones that you can

[kog_throwie]

thanks rouge ! :)

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

they look like this some arnt clear though

http://i32.tinypic.com/125p1sm.jpg

get that then pull the brown piece at the end it should come out and youlll hav this in your hand exept the end will be brown ...then pull the brown piece off too...then cut the tube into pieces...ECT

http://i31.tinypic.com/vy0bja.jpg

[letsg0skate]

Oh that's easier then what I was thinking haha, so about how much ink does 100 pens make? Enough to be worth the time to make it?

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

i never tried a batch that big used 30 and it only filled a kiwi mop....it really depends on how much alchohol u pour in though..because if i put lets say 45 pens and not so much alchohol..the ink will be thick.....so it depends on how much alchohol you pour in....if you look in the previous pages some dude used like 80 or some shit in a bucket...


http://www.bombingscience.com/graffitiforum/showthread.php?t=3855

thats it scroll down and it should bne a tutorial on how to do it

[letsg0skate]

okay if 30 fills a kiwi then 100 will make plenty.

[Case-One]

i jus bought sum latex-acrylic paint and i'm wondering what i could add to it, sum tips pleeeaazz!?

[MontanaPainter]

thin it out with water throw in kiwi.


if you bought it then....return it and get OIL BASED

[Case-One]

yeah yeah i know, i have a shit-load of oil-based paints already mixed up but i wanted to try the acrylic, thanx

[Case-One]

can anyone tell me where to get some meth-blue at?

[Rogue]

Ebay.

Or you can get the liquid version at pet stores then evaporate it for the powder.

[Case-One]

how shall i go about evaporating this shit, and what should i do after?

[Rogue]

Just let it sit out in a jar, then scoop up the powder and add it to your ink

[kog_throwie]

how long does it roughly take im not a patient man

[Rogue]

You could even boil it if you want, thats faster.

Just evaporating could take a week or more

[rave905]

quick question......

i have $20 and i wanted to know wats the best shit i can buy with that....

quantity over quality(as long as it htb)

u can uy raves special ink mix
now on sale for only 20 dollers lol

[mosezone]

anybody ever tried witches brew?

[Rogue]

It's really really really thick. It's nice though.

[DRIPS!]

i havent but i think thats gonna be my next investment

and for the pen ink shit goin down i used roughly250 pens andf only put it in half of a 600 ml pop bottle and its quite opaque
this is blue
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/5807/hpim4252gr8.jpg

[MontanaPainter]

nice....work on your handie though


rogue can you post a recipie for blk or blue oil based ink??!?!?!?!

[ish_805]

do they have fish oil tablets at walmart? what aisle..(near where)

[rave905]

i just use paint ballz they r made of fishoil and food coloring
and its not like u add tonz of it so w/e what is half a drop of food coloring gonna do lol

[Rogue]

nice....work on your handie though


rogue can you post a recipie for blk or blue oil based ink??!?!?!?!

Oil based? Thats ghetto krink, unless you mean from scratch....


do they have fish oil tablets at walmart? what aisle..(near where)

Vitamin section.

[sir.one]

with a OE bingo mop. mmmhmmm..sex.

[rave905]

yo sir ur a mod in pic gallery arnt u can u plz go n fix the 905 thread mad wack ish/beef on there

[MontanaPainter]

@rogue


i mean like starting from scratch with linseed oil and shit.


thanks

[Rogue]

Well that won't make ink, that will make paint.

You can use linseed oil and colored pigments to make your own paint. Mix the pigments to make your own custom colors etc.

It's a lot more complicated then just mixing linseed/pigment though.

If your serious about making your own, and are willing to order the pigments, let me know and I'll help you more. Otherwise it's a waste of time.

[MontanaPainter]

yes but outta curiousity how much are pigmentos


rogue pm me your sn for aim

[Rogue]

Alright here's one of my many paint recipes.

Ingriedients

Mineral Spirits
BOILED Linseed Oil
Pigment

Basically, add 1 quart or mineral spirits, and 7 ounces of boiled linseed oil. You need boiled linseed oil because it a special mix which includes japan drier, regular linseed oil will NEVER dry, it will make you have a shitty mix.


You can then get some Japan Colors to use as your pigment. Japan colors are basically oil based tube paint, but the difference is that it has driers added to it, which will give you a better mix, unlike regular artist tube paint which takes 75633 years to dry. You could use raw powdered pigment instead if you want, but Japan colors are easier to get.

You should only use 4 ounces of japan color in your mix. Your mix will become too thick if you add any more.

Then your pretty much done, japan colors come in a bunch of colors and you can use them to make your own custom ones.

If you find that the mix is too thick, you can add some more mineral spirits until you get the right consistency. You can also add some japan drier if needed, but only add 1/2 of an ounce.

You should be good then

[ish_805]

Oil based? Thats ghetto krink, unless you mean from scratch....



Vitamin section.

are they supposed to be green(it says omega-3)

[illadelph]

i (almost) never seen so much dick-ridin like this before in my life!!! people -first -need to try and figure shit out themselves - second - learn how to fuckin spell ,cause half their words are all mangled and misspelled and they sound like a fucking mongoloid when they type shit ,and third - get of the mans dick!!! nobody likes to have they're dick rode by another dude the way i see this shit going on in here ,and motherfuckers act like they knew EVERYTHING about graffiti when they were toys! i'm sure 99% of the people in here had to ask someone something at one time or another. dudes just like to be all tough cause they ain't face to face with ya.....bitch ass fuckin noodles!!!!! eat my dick up till u hiccup ,fuckin nerds!!!!!

[Just Another]

You just bitched about people riding dicks, and then asked for yours to be ridden...

[Buhda420]

bhahaha i am out there putting up out and in

40 is like the average heat in summer though
at least in new south wales dunno about melboune
you melbournians got it sweet there

[Buhda420]

i am aware to people new to the art methelne blue would seem like a golden idea to put in paint but i still find it funny
but i was once a very ilinformed lad
haha

BUT! i have a qeustion what could i add to pen ink to make it more uv resitant

and sorry for double posting

[harry]

i dunno pen ink fades like a bitch mix it with some grog if you have some pen ink isnt even used as a proper ink its used as a stainer to put into inks

[Hoes]

emptying out biro pens into grog/nero is a good stainer


Empty out a bottle of black grog..a bottle of nero into a bucket/bottle

add 1 tea spoon of dot3

get 50 black biro pens..cut the nibs of them and just blow the thick black ink into the mix..it'll take a while...

and add 1 cap full of turps or spirts..

close it up...shake well...add to a marker..bomb..a'll try n get a pic of the finshed ink (y)

[SAID]

i saw paint to fix up your car yesterday at an arts store. looked really thick though. worth racking and making something out of it ?

[Yuckasfuck]

If yer tryin hoes' recipe replace the turps with methylated spirits/isopropyl.
Then ye might realise that its pen ink+dot3+brand ink :P

[Vagrant]

answer to question at beginning of page:

100 pens to 1 cup alcohol
Add more pens if you want.

in other news:

someone asking a question, and then it being answered, and the original person who asked thanking the person who answered is not dick riding. shut the fuck up about dick riding.

[rave905]

i saw paint to fix up your car yesterday at an arts store. looked really thick though. worth racking and making something out of it ?
just the other day i rackt a "duplicolor" scratch fixer it works kinda like a whiteout pen ut there is silver paint in it

[rave905]

oh n no offence rogue but that recipie sounds alot like just mixing linseed oil, mineral spirit, japan drier n tube paint
how is that complicated

unless u get the powdered pigments

[Rogue]

It's not complicated really, I was going to put another recipe up, but that one was easier with nice results.

Just make sure you use the exact amounts I posted, or it will suck.

[SAID]

just the other day i rackt a "duplicolor" scratch fixer it works kinda like a whiteout pen ut there is silver paint in it
nahh dude, i just saw the paint itself.
is any goood ?

[Mime1]

Got a question for any ink heads here. Basically can I add Iodine Crystals to an ink mix and if yes what properties does it have ?
Also I've been looking into solvents and found a good place in the UK
http://www.pioneerresearch.co.uk/pages/products/stains-and-dyes.php
There are some good dyes and solvents there but what are the best ones ?

[letsg0skate]

omg just got back from micheals, big waste. Filled a staz-on with acrylic paint and it sucks balls I ended up throwing all of it out.

[djsupreeme]

make sure you take the regulator out ^^

[letsg0skate]

Now I am even more pissed for not thinking of that. AJKSLDJKLSAKJLD Now I have to go back friday and start over.

[Rogue]

Hahahahahaha

[Buhda420]

haha my school is sweet i rackasaurus rexed my way to 5 sketch books a few cans of spray and a $30.00 dollar ink its like a litre
but its like better than india ink but good for made ups
water and fade proof

[harry]

lol i rack belton and ironlak from my school cause we have street art as a subject at our scholl i love it hahah and we get those tall thin krlons in siler and gold soooo easy

[rave905]

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat Street Art Class Omfg Im So Fuckin Jealous Of U

[harry]

lol its pretty good haha last weeks home work was to take a photo of graffiti and we get to go on excursions to hosier lane wich is a massive legal alley

[rave905]

wow i feel like moving to ur town n going bak 2 skool just so i can take that class
even tho im dun skool lol
i would purposly fail it so i can take it next year 2 lol

[harry]

hahahaha theres street art and then theres extension street art so you could just take extension next year hahaha

[rave905]

fail each of them 3 times then u get 1 every semester of highskool lol

[harry]

hahahaha

[rave905]

k im goin bombing b4 its light out lol
ez budz

[rave905]

k a few days ago i rackt sum ink from sum company (not a store)
and it says #7005 black & xt-70 red n they both say trans canada stamp
ne1 no nething about it i did a buff test n it didnt stain at all

ok and so i dont hear this from every1
yes i have already googled the company name n went 2 thier site but they have no info on nething
so i e-mailed them askin 4 the msds but still no response

[Vagrant]

well you did a buff test and it didnt stain. what more do you want to know. You know its a crappy ink. be patient for the msds if you still want to know whats in it so you know what to mix it will, but in the end you will just have a easy-buff ink.

[Mime1]

Well the xt-70 is Garvey , just in red. If it anything like violet garvey it should be god at staining but fade in the light.

[Vagrant]

yeah xt-70 is the name of garvey price marking ink, but i don't see why he wouldn't realize its garvey.. it should say right on the Garvey right on the bottle.

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

can you get garvey in walgreens or not...someone said you can i went and looked for it...maybe i was lookin in the wrond isles...

[Vagrant]

no
i would be extremely surprised if someone found Garvey at their local Walgreens

**** sells Violet Garvey, and you can get Black Violet and Red in 2 different sizes at Tracy Packaging (http://www.traceypackaging.com/catalog.asp?prodid=505275)

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

well..has anyone ever seen this leather dye ?...its not kiwi its not in kiwi mops..it comes in a box and it comes with this metal stick that has a fuzzy ball on the end...kinda like the witches brew thing..but it is not connected to the cap it comes in the box?

i know its not alot of etails maybe some one will know lol

[Vagrant]

Sounds like Griffin Shoe Dye. Griffin is badass stuff, expecially the old formula. But Griffin comes in a bottle in a box and the dauber is connected to the cap.
Any more information? Name possibly? You were pretty vague.

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

YEA..no it was griffin that i heard you could find in walgreens !

but idk ..this stuff i found in a shoe shop...like they hav kiwi mops all that shit made for cleaning shoes...

the shit was 5 bucks damn..i wish i kept the boxx

[Vagrant]

Griffin you might be able to find in walgreens. i've never seen it. all I see is Kiwi.
Griffin is good. As I said the old formula is amazing. I'm not sure how old it needs to be to be the old formula though.

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

yea next tme i goto walgreens ima chek up down left right for the shit

[Flash_One]

I got some junobo in the mail, and i put it in a mop and the shit was so thick it did not flow at all. it was as thick as oil based bucket paint. how could i thin it? and paint thinner does not mix wiht it. so i need a second oppinion.

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

junobo is oil based....put it in a **** mop

[Flash_One]

would a kiwi work...

[Enmity]

na not really .. junobo is thick i noticed that i used almost half a **** bottle for one tag. those drips arent cheap . i gave up buying that stuff cause Gk is cheaper to make .

[anti-anti-crime]

ive got junobo, put it into a clear kiwi, doesnt flow good at all. prolly gunna order a mop from ****, but im not buyin junobo again, i no that

[Case-One]

don't buy those **** mops, go to a hobby lobby or a Michale's art store, look for tee-juice markers, their the same things, but order some little nibs for it cause the ones they come with suck

[MESN[905]]

don't buy those **** mops, go to a hobby lobby or a Michale's art store, look for tee-juice markers, their the same things, but order some little nibs for it cause the ones they come with suck

no

window chalk markers are the **** mops, mo hair nib and all

[Case-One]

are u sure because i just picked one up yesterday and they look exactly the same

[djsupreeme]

its mo hair, not mole hair.

and the **** mini mops suck.

[Vagrant]

mops are mops. some work better when its filled with something else. stop complaining about the details, because it really doesn't matter that much. **** mops may be good, they may not be. Personally I would never buy one if I can just rack a window chalk mop or some other similar item.
Chances are most people need to practice their tag more than finding the perfect mop anyways.

[Flash_One]

ive got junobo, put it into a clear kiwi, doesnt flow good at all. prolly gunna order a mop from ****, but im not buyin junobo again, i no that
i know how you feel i have the same problem i think that junobo was a waste of my money...

[SAID]

junobo IS a waste of money.
but it does work in a kiwi.
not well.
but it works.

[anti-anti-crime]

it does flow, but i have to press down mad hard and squeez really hard to. it pretty much was a waste of my money, i shoulda just got a 16 oz bottle of garvey or 8 oz of ****

[SAID]

agreed.
squeeze your kiwi hard but dont push down so hard and write your tag slowly.
honestly, it works.
but junobo is indeed, poop.

[anti-anti-crime]

tried that to, doesnt work either. ive tried everything, so i dk wat to say. i guess dont buy it if u want a good paint mix thatll flow good, but if uve got a good bingo dabber or somethin of that sort, get some and write slowly.
anyways, bak onto inks. ive mixed **** in wit some griffin, im gunna paint over it untill its completely gone, lets c how hard staining it really is. pics will prolly b in by next week since ive gotta go pick up the paint

[SAID]

sickkkk !

[RUDE_Bwoy]

tried that to, doesnt work either. ive tried everything, so i dk wat to say. i guess dont buy it if u want a good paint mix thatll flow good, but if uve got a good bingo dabber or somethin of that sort, get some and write slowly.
anyways, bak onto inks. ive mixed **** in wit some griffin, im gunna paint over it untill its completely gone, lets c how hard staining it really is. pics will prolly b in by next week since ive gotta go pick up the paint

try putting it in a window marker

[Just Another]

Just got my first 2 bottles of candy and I'm stoked.. Can't wait to try the shit out...

[MontanaPainter]

damn...outta marsh.

wait. outta everything

[mosezone]

would it be worth adding either fiebings or a little dot3 to some ****?

[Vagrant]

sure. maybe 3 parts **** 1 part fiebings. a dash of dot3.
Not like you're going to ruin your ****. probably wont even notice any change. dot3 will help though

[mosezone]

aiight thanks.

[MontanaPainter]

why is everyone messing with inks when they get buffed either way?


acrylic ftw!

[harry]

lol good point inks are fun to mess with though

but yea i just got my first bottle of junobo today in the mail shit sucks...and its water based to i think it smells water based and i can scratch it off with my finger nail with easy junobo=waste

[rave905]

i make my own junobo n its prolly better then that lol


k a few days ago i rackt sum ink from sum company (not a store)
and it says #7005 black & xt-70 red n they both say trans canada stamp
ne1 no nething about it i did a buff test n it didnt stain at all

ok and so i dont hear this from every1
yes i have already googled the company name n went 2 thier site but they have no info on nething
so i e-mailed them askin 4 the msds but still no response

k they sent me an e-mail bak asking for my fax number n i dun have a fax
does n1 out there have a fax i could give them n then u just tell me what it says??
plz



well you did a buff test and it didnt stain. what more do you want to know. You know its a crappy ink. be patient for the msds if you still want to know whats in it so you know what to mix it will, but in the end you will just have a easy-buff ink.

buffability isnt the only quality in ink i already have/know how 2 make ink that is crazy hard 2 buff that i use on busses but it fades in the sun tho so i dun like using it outside im kinda hopeing this ink is weather proof

then i have my owe sort of ded combo indoors ink n outdoors ink

[Mime1]

Well the xt-70 is Garvey , just in red. If it anything like violet garvey it should be god at staining but fade in the light.
Quoted if you missed it

[rave905]

i already did a buff test n it did not stain one bit

n ive read ever single post in this thread
unlike some ppl that shoukld i always read everything from the last time i posted on b4 i post again
notice the 3 diff topics adressed in one post

[Case-One]

well put mang, but you know it's fun bickering sum times, but whatever to each his own

[Case-One]

sorry this post^^^^was for one page back

[ILikeBombing]

O Y3rZ N3v4 Use n e rit Dy3

[rave905]

^^^^^mods delete that


no no no no no
never use rit dye im suprised u havnt learnd that already clearly thats the first time uv ever made ne kinda of ink or paint or uv just only mixed that rit die with acrylic shit n ur lucky 2
when u mix rit dye with alcohol its gonna blow up on ur ass it'll just bubble up hard core n ull get ink everywhere
n almost all the good inks that stain r alcohol based
ur shit is water based and its paint it doesnt stain

[ILikeBombing]

^^^^^mods delete that


no no no no no
never use rit dye im suprised u havnt learnd that already clearly thats the first time uv ever made ne kinda of ink or paint or uv just only mixed that rit die with acrylic shit n ur lucky 2
when u mix rit dye with alcohol its gonna blow up on ur ass it'll just bubble up hard core n ull get ink everywhere
n almost all the good inks that stain r alcohol based
ur shit is water based and its paint it doesnt stain

LOL

[rave905]

nah k im not even gonna argue this with u im 2 baked
ill let other ppl cut u up just wait 4 it

[ILikeBombing]

nah k im not even gonna argue this with u im 2 baked
ill let other ppl cut u up just wait 4 it

ghey

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[rave905]

^^exactly
nur down in austrailia arnt u ur on an island away from the rest of the world n from what iv hread b4 the graff scene down thier isnt that great

the reason uv never made a pressure bomb is like i said uve never mixed it with nething worth using because all u use it water based ish

u dont need constructive critisum
u need 2 not post step i steps like that

none of the other ink heads r on right now so just wait n ull get flamed hard

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

wtf are u stupid ?...idk which rit dye ur talkin bout maybe the liquid one
using rit dye does not do shit its jus color particles that dissolve..its not permanent at all ..obviously if you use it for its true purpose dyeing cloths not for writing on walls and shit...i know becuase ive tryed it my self with purple didnt do shit ...

why would u even use rit dye ?..i hope u were experimenting and didnt accually think for a second ..OHH IF I ADD DYE IT WILL BE LIKE GRIFFIN DYE AND STAIN REAL HARD...

and why dont you post the pics and tell us your ingredients because i have a box of rit dye and im jus dying to make some of your "STAINING INK"

[Rogue]

Exactly ^^^

[MUSEone]

yes yes yes yes yes.
i used rit dye, im suprised you think ive never made ink before. ive mixed it before, it didnt buble, it has never on me, i hardly use any of it, and obviously it does stain, i have pics to prove it. duh.
u didnt make ink....u made worthless shit. id rather use a sharpie for ups than shit.

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

obviously everything is better than the shit he made..
he doesent hav a clue what hes doing,

the next thing hes gonna come out with is he used a crayola washable and it beat the buff

[Jet]

haha he claims it stained when he buffed it with windex.

good stuff.

but for the record, to all the little trendy kids yelling "acrylic is the way to go cuz if yoo crush a thouzend thingz they cant buff u allz"

then you can use Rit die.

in fact I've made cash before just mixing acrylic and the corresponding color of RIT and selling it to toys for $5 a pop.

[ILikeBombing]

wtf are u stupid ?...idk which rit dye ur talkin bout maybe the liquid one
using rit dye does not do shit its jus color particles that dissolve..its not permanent at all ..obviously if you use it for its true purpose dyeing cloths not for writing on walls and shit...i know becuase ive tryed it my self with purple didnt do shit ...

why would u even use rit dye ?..i hope u were experimenting and didnt accually think for a second ..OHH IF I ADD DYE IT WILL BE LIKE GRIFFIN DYE AND STAIN REAL HARD...

and why dont you post the pics and tell us your ingredients because i have a box of rit dye and im jus dying to make some of your "STAINING INK"

actually i was experimenting (mixing all those ingrience together), but then after i made it and tested it, tryed to buff it off, it stained.
there is pictures. if you looked at them you would actually know its the liquid one, and if you actually read the intructions it says liquid. so unless your just following the flock and talking out of your ass or your blind, i dont get it.

[ILikeBombing]

haha he claims it stained when he buffed it with windex.

good stuff.

but for the record, to all the little trendy kids yelling "acrylic is the way to go cuz if yoo crush a thouzend thingz they cant buff u allz"

then you can use Rit die.

in fact I've made cash before just mixing acrylic and the corresponding color of RIT and selling it to toys for $5 a pop.

its better then the ghetto junobo shit.

[Jet]

the only difference between the liquid rit and the powder rit is: water.

the liquid is just 2 packs of powder in a bottle of water.

and if you knew anything about ink (which you didn't even make) you'd know that it is almost impoissible to acutally stain metal, most "stains" you see on metal are just the ink the seeped into the grooves of the surface that didn't get buffed. and your "stain" picture proves itself wrong because there's a huge white line throught the center of your crappy tag, you just didn't buff the top or bottom and claimed it stained.

edit: and the ghetto junobo recepie is better than your crayloa recepie, but GK is still the easiest to make, and the most permanent.

[ILikeBombing]

u didnt make ink....u made worthless shit. id rather use a sharpie for ups than shit.

good, go use a sharpie. id like to see DA MAD STAINZZZ WIT DAT SHITE BRUHZZAAAA

[ILikeBombing]

the only difference between the liquid rit and the powder rit is: water.

the liquid is just 2 packs of powder in a bottle of water.

and if you knew anything about ink (which you didn't even make) you'd know that it is almost impoissible to acutally stain metal, most "stains" you see on metal are just the ink the seeped into the grooves of the surface that didn't get buffed. and your "stain" picture proves itself wrong because there's a huge white line throught the center of your crappy tag, you just didn't buff the top or bottom and claimed it stained.

edit: and the ghetto junobo recepie is better than your crayloa recepie, but GK is still the easiest to make, and the most permanent.

even though i have some ghetto junobo? if you knew anything about stains, you'd know when tags get buffed not the whole tag stays there.
want a video of me cleaning it?

[Jet]

acutally since sharpie is alcohol based it would actually stain more than your waterbased mix. so stop posting here. There is not one single person on this thread that thinks your "ink" is any good at all.

and yea just cause you have ghetto junobo doesn't mean your recepie is better, or do you want a gold star for following a recepie you found on the internet?

wak ass bitch.

[rave905]

yeah just go away n we will stop flaming you

[ILikeBombing]

acutally since sharpie is alcohol based it would actually stain more than your waterbased mix. so stop posting here. There is not one single person on this thread that thinks your "ink" is any good at all.

and yea just cause you have ghetto junobo doesn't mean your recepie is better, or do you want a gold star for following a recepie you found on the internet?

wak ass bitch.

gee you so coo' wit all dat E-cred you have.
show me some fucking stains left by a sharpie then idiot?

[Rogue]

Please just fucking kill yourself.

Please.