The Ink Discussion Thread

[MUSEone]

good, go use a sharpie. id like to see DA MAD STAINZZZ WIT DAT SHITE BRUHZZAAAA

i can almost gurantee a magnum would stain more than...w.e u made...i dont even know wat to call it....

[Jet]

gee you so coo' wit all dat E-cred you have.
show me some fucking stains left by a sharpie then idiot?

sharpies don't stain and that's the point. If an alcohol based marker doesn't stain, then a waterbased shit mix never will.

see you in a couple weeks when you re-register under a different name.

[ILikeBombing]

Please just fucking kill yourself.

Please.

no, you only think your better because what, you've been on a forum longer then me? that doesnt mean shit.
you's all try rip into what i made, and you try tell me that it cant stain, when it did, you's try tell me all this other shit, that isnt even true. and for those of you who think i havent made any ink before, get a head check

[ILikeBombing]

sharpies don't stain and that's the point. If an alcohol based marker doesn't stain, then a waterbased shit mix never will.

see you in a couple weeks when you re-register under a different name.

explain the stain then you idiot.

[MUSEone]

stop flaming this thread. ur gonna get banned. say all ur pointless comebacks in ONE post.

[Rogue]

no, you only think your better because what, you've been on a forum longer then me? that doesnt mean shit.
you's all try rip into what i made, and you try tell me that it cant stain, when it did, you's try tell me all this other shit, that isnt even true. and for those of you who think i havent made any ink before, get a head check

When did I say anything about how long I've been here.

And the reason we're "ripping" on what you made is because your just a fucking moron if you think that shit will stain. Please, if you think you can handle it, tag something outside of your room, and show us if it lasts then. I'll even use your exact mix and PROVE it doesn't stain if I have to.

And if you do make ink, please prove it with something besides Rit dye and acrylic.

[ILikeBombing]

how bout istead of being like
Dat ink/paint is shit, im a senior member so i think i know more.

actually tell me what you think of the actual thing, and howcome you's keep saying it didnt stain, when it did, oh and that white streak thru it was the flash on the camera because the object i took a pic of is rounded.

[Rogue]

I told you exactly what I thought of it. It's shit.

Oh yeah, by the way just so everyone in this thread knows. I hope I say this nice and clear and you all understand.

I'm a senior member so I think I know more.

[rave905]

nah k im not even gonna argue this with u im 2 baked
ill let other ppl cut u up just wait 4 it

i love how i didnt even hafta do nething u all just said what i was thinkin

[ILikeBombing]

When did I say anything about how long I've been here.

And the reason we're "ripping" on what you made is because your just a fucking moron if you think that shit will stain. Please, if you think you can handle it, tag something outside of your room, and show us if it lasts then. I'll even use your exact mix and PROVE it doesn't stain if I have to.

And if you do make ink, please prove it with something besides Rit dye and acrylic.

well anything else id make is already posted on the forums, but i knew of the recipe before i even knew it was here, but that sounds abit dodgy and theres no way to prove i knew it before you's posted it, which is a shame.
and as i said it was 1 in the morning and raining, how was i ment to test it outside?
use the exact mix and tell me if it stains with pictures to prove it and ill bet it will. it wont even cost you that much.

[rave905]

k can a mod plz come in here n deleted everything from here untill he posted that recipie
ban him 2

[ILikeBombing]

I told you exactly what I thought of it. It's shit.

Oh yeah, by the way just so everyone in this thread knows. I hope I say this nice and clear and you all understand.

I'm a senior member so I think I know more.

you didnt have to say the last part to make it noticed.
but tell me why you think its shit, explain it

[SAID]

Please just fucking kill yourself.

Please.
ahahahaha.
BEAUTIFUL!
siggyyyy

[Jet]

actually tell me what you think of the actual thing, and howcome you's keep saying it didnt stain, when it did, oh and that white streak thru it was the flash on the camera because the object i took a pic of is rounded.


we are telling you what we think.

FACT: water based mixes don't stain
FACT: you have been on here 1 day and think you know more than kids that have been doing this for months and years.
FACT: if there was any value in your post we would have said it by now
FACT: if you look in the stickied ink thread you will see that Rit dye is garbage
FACT: you, for some reason, think your the only person that's fucked with RIT dye before? It's available in every supermarker and drugstore in america, every kid that's worth his weight in ghetto krink has tried it out at some point or another.
FACT: you added break fluid which is used to slow the drying time of INK not Paint!

[rave905]

its water based
i really dont feel like pointing out all the other flaws in ur recipie either cuz its a really really long list

[MUSEone]

FACT: you, for some reason, think your the only person that's fucked with RIT dye before? It's available in every supermarker and drugstore in america, every kid that's worth his weight in ghetto krink has tried it out at some point or another.
IIII HAAAAVENT. =]

[ILikeBombing]

we are telling you what we think.

FACT: water based mixes don't stain
FACT: you have been on here 1 day and think you know more than kids that have been doing this for months and years.
FACT: if there was any value in your post we would have said it by now
FACT: if you look in the stickied ink thread you will see that Rit dye is garbage
FACT: you, for some reason, think your the only person that's fucked with RIT dye before? It's available in every supermarker and drugstore in america, every kid that's worth his weight in ghetto krink has tried it out at some point or another.
FACT: you added break fluid which is used to slow the drying time of INK not Paint!

why did mine stain then
because ive been on here for 1 day thats ment to be howlong ive been writing for? since when do internet forums judge the amount of time you've wrote for.
ive looked at the ink thread before and read the "NEVER USE RIT DYE" part
i never acted like i was the only one, isaid it didnt bubble. thats it.

[rave905]

when u mix rit dye with alcohol it makes a pressure bomb
hes acually lucky his recipie uses shitty acrylic cuz if he used nething good it woulda blown up on him

and the only reason it "stained is because u used windex 2 try n clean it u ne REAL graffiti remover n itll come right off

im acually suprised it still didnt come off with windex id think it would only take sum water
prolly cuz its uncoated painted metal

[SAID]

kid.
just drop ittt.

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

actually i was experimenting (mixing all those ingrience together), but then after i made it and tested it, tryed to buff it off, it stained.
there is pictures. if you looked at them you would actually know its the liquid one, and if you actually read the intructions it says liquid. so unless your just following the flock and talking out of your ass or your blind, i dont get it.


STOP TALKIN AND JUS POST THE FUCKIN PICTURES...
DO THE WORLD A FAVOR AND SHOW US yoUR RIT DYE STAINING INK BITCH

[rave905]

i know hes killed like 2 pages now

[partofme]

Has anyone tried marsh k-1 stencil ink? I know t grade is the usual but i can get k grade dirt cheap. Also is there a difference in thickness, i dont want anything too thick cause it won't work in my fountain brush. Thanks.

[ILikeBombing]

when u mix rit dye with alcohol it makes a pressure bomb
hes acually lucky his recipie uses shitty acrylic cuz if he used nething good it woulda blown up on him

and the only reason it "stained is because u used windex 2 try n clean it u ne REAL graffiti remover n itll come right off

im acually suprised it still didnt come off with windex id think it would only take sum water
prolly cuz its uncoated painted metal

i used some of a bottle called "Graffiti remover"
and i used eucalyptus oil
and i used windex


STOP TALKIN AND JUS POST THE FUCKIN PICTURES...
DO THE WORLD A FAVOR AND SHOW US yoUR RIT DYE STAINING INK BITCH

i bet your like the only one who hasnt seen the pics..feel left out?

[MUSEone]

no, why would he feel left out, its nothing special haha

[ILikeBombing]

no, why would he feel left out, its nothing special haha

lololololool gud wun!

[MUSEone]

yea...because its not....

[rave905]

hahahahahahahaha
k i need 2 go out n drop some throwups cuz i got get all this toyness outta my brain
b ez ink head n i hope hes killed himself by the time im bak
or at least not here nemore

[ILikeBombing]

yea...because its not....

anyway babe, i need to go, but ill be back later ok?
ILY

[rave905]

hahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaha
muse has toyz cooties now
how do u feel muse

[MESN[905]]

rave u shouldnt be so easy to call people toys... no offense cause ur mi buddy but still u call too many people toys

anyways

ILikeBombing, WATERBASED SHIT DOESNT STAIN SO JUS DROP IT, YOUR INK IS SHIT.

[MUSEone]

anyway babe, i need to go, but ill be back later ok?
ILY


Good one faggot! Why dont u do us all a favor and go to the nearest busy highway...and throw yourself into on coming traffic ok? Thnx.

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

drop it get back on real ink not no fake fuckin HARD STAiNiNG ink that this guy claims to hold...

ANY BODY KNOW IF I SHOULD ADD ANY THING TO A FINISHED INK BATCH?...OR SHOULD I JUS THROW IT IN A MOP AND DESTROY...

[MUSEone]

depends on wat ya got in it.

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

didnt really add anything else exepty alchohol used to suck out the ink..the ink itself..and a cap of dot 3..but i dunno if i should add anythign else to make it stain more or if its good as is

[MontanaPainter]

oh my god.

i guess i will just talk to you guys as i load my revolver so i can shoot myself.


FUCK THAT KID.

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

talkn to mee?

[rave905]

yo like kids need 2 learn thier place in this shit everybody thinks the world revolves around them n they r better then everybody else


news flash im not a king and nither r u get over it and start learning from ur mistakes instead of tryin 2 cover them up

[Enmity]

for talking so much "ink" .. yall should be posting daily in the PICTURE THREADS

[rave905]

i did n then every1's like oh we dont wanna c every throwie/tag u drop
but half the ppl in my town on this site r huge pricks

[ViaHipHop]

gee you so coo' wit all dat E-cred you have.
show me some fucking stains left by a sharpie then idiot?

ive used a sharpie and it beat the buff at a train station
i had nothing else it was a sad night

[MESN[905]]

i did n then every1's like oh we dont wanna c every throwie/tag u drop
but half the ppl in my town on this site r huge pricks

lol man he was jokin cuz the picture threads are all chat n barely any flicks jus like this thread hasnt had a post about ink in mad time


anyway

is there a black stainer? i kno about meth blu, gentian violet, pp, malachite green an shit liek that but im maken a pitch black ink an i dont want any tint

[partofme]

Has anyone tried marsh k-1 stencil ink? I know t grade is the usual but i can get k grade dirt cheap. Also is there a difference in thickness, i dont want anything too thick cause it won't work in my fountain brush. Thanks.

anyone? this is the ink discussion thread..

[MESN[905]]

"K-1 INK: POROUS SURFACES

Permanent, waterproof, quick-drying - For marking on cartons, paper, cloth or wood."

well its weatherproof, probably really opaque, but i gaurantee it wont stain

[partofme]

well yeah i can add stainers. just wondering if anyone had used it. Thanks.

[Mime1]

is there a black stainer? i kno about meth blu, gentian violet, pp, malachite green an shit liek that but im maken a pitch black ink an i dont want any tint
One black stainer that springs to mind is mythyl black.
A great site for looking up dyes is this one
http://stainsfile.info/StainsFile/dyes/dyes.htm

[MESN[905]]

oh shitttt

thanks a bunch mang

[rave905]

yeah that site hurts my brain
but its cool

[j-f]

has any one heard of indian ink?
my art class has a nice bottle of it and my buddy is using it for his work were doing right now and i look at this stuff and its nice...the only thing is i think its water based
does anyone have experience with it or know whether its water based or not?

[MESN[905]]

its water based

evaporate it and add the powder into your alcohol based inks

[ViaHipHop]

wow.

go to the stickied ink thread(read about it i think its in there) and delete your post before you get flamed....

and yes its water based

edit:mesn beat me

[MontanaPainter]

fine fine letsg0skate

[Street Wize]

On the 2 way glue, do u take out all that shyt under the cap?

[rave905]

its all about preference really some ppl always take it out but i only take it out if im using paint if im using real ink then i leave it in

[ILikeBombing]

sorry about whatever, i experimented with left over paints and dyes i found laying around, i had used rit before, and never had a problem, so i decided to use it again, when i made the paint, i was at first just trying to make a more permanant version of the ghetto junobo, but i made it and then buffed it but there was a stain left, so i decided to write out steps to what i did to see what others thought, but the second i posted it, i get told it doesnt stain, and people start getting up me.
sorry for whatever, but i didnt mean to cause any trouble, i was just trying to make something.
(when im in testing stages of making stuff i use it in shit mops/anything i can refill, because i dont want to fuck up something good.)

[LIVINGDEAD247]

Sintakz you have gained an enormous amount of respect from me for coming back and donning the mindset you have.
I <3 you.

I will try my best to answer any questions I can, and also mini-moderate this thread. Sintakz is on a lot more often that I though - at least during high traffic hours - so he will obviously get more questions answered

Discussion on Nail Polish.
Nail Polish is alcohol based, and generally alright, but its sort of like paint and just sits on the surface. Yes alcohol will buff it. Thinning it with acetone (nail polish remover) and maybe adding DOT3 might do some good. It will definitely give you more volume if you thin it out. Plus is you can easily steal nail polish, but you'll need a few bottles to fill a marker.

Discussion on Metallic Mountain Dew Green Paint.
Depending on how much paint you want to have in the end, you will need a lot of Pearl Ex. No big deal if you rack it.

Saying this thread feels like the old one doesn't help. NAIL POLISH COMES IN LOTS OF COOL METALIC COLORS!!! DADDY LIKES!!!

[rave905]

sorry about whatever, i experimented with left over paints and dyes i found laying around, i had used rit before, and never had a problem, so i decided to use it again, when i made the paint, i was at first just trying to make a more permanant version of the ghetto junobo, but i made it and then buffed it but there was a stain left, so i decided to write out steps to what i did to see what others thought, but the second i posted it, i get told it doesnt stain, and people start getting up me.
sorry for whatever, but i didnt mean to cause any trouble, i was just trying to make something.
(when im in testing stages of making stuff i use it in shit mops/anything i can refill, because i dont want to fuck up something good.)


k its over man i dont even wanna get into it lets just move on with our lives

[BizerkIZ]

Contrary to the comment from vagrant.. nail polish is actually acetone based..
so still dont put dot 3 in...

my god this thread has sucked ass the last few pages.. the real people still holding fermity.

[HEY.LOOK.AT.ME]

hey biz iv been readin thru these pages 4 a while now b4 i joined n it seems like u no all there is 2 no about inks how the fuck did u learn all this shit like did u go 2 college 4 sum hard core chemistry or sumthin

[BizerkIZ]

hahahah damn thanks man, im dissapointed, 90% of the info i posted was on the old thread.. 400 so comments.. but anyways,

i learned 80% or so of this out of pure experience, experimentation and determination ect ect over 6 years or writing... load of stuff, very hard to explain heh..

thanks man though :)

[HEY.LOOK.AT.ME]

np man im just staten the facts
i love the chemsitry in all this shit
n then that great feeling that u spent all this time makin an ink n then u c a stain it left
n u can almost picture the buffer standing there scrubing it n cursing 2 himself that it wont come off lol

[ViaHipHop]

holy shit you only have 166 posts now didnt even notice....

you really did have ALOT of posts in that old thread

ink related-etch is the only thing that can "stain" glass right?

[HEY.LOOK.AT.ME]

thats so awsome

[BizerkIZ]

hahahah that reminds me of a thing that happened to me.. i think rogue should tell it because i hate the fact people would flame if i said heh

[Olick]

ink related-etch is the only thing that can "stain" glass right?

u can scratch it

[HEY.LOOK.AT.ME]

they should bring bak the old thread n just lock it so we can use it as a sort of archive

[ViaHipHop]

u can scratch it

well yea thats obvious but i wanna be able to hit it and run hah like shit in NYC

p.s what'd i miss

whats "so awsome"(heylook...)
and what reminds you of something (biz)?

im confused

[Olick]

haha well i dont think etch dries in 5 seconds "i never used it so i unno"

so if anyone sees you "which might be the reason you want" the person can just get a rag and wipe the etch off?

[-Leski]

Fuck etch.
Dont ask about it, dont use it, act like its not there.

[Olick]

candy red/cherry red
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o318/mrshee/Image027.jpg
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o318/mrshee/Image028.jpg
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o318/mrshee/Image029.jpg
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o318/mrshee/Image030.jpg


and before people "mods" complain why i dont post pics of my writing

its mainly becuase

i striaght up dont fuckin feel like it=D

[MUSEone]

because u dont....

I <3 OLICK

[ViaHipHop]

my post didnt go through...

but i said "yea im not gonna fuck around with it i just was wondering if etch is the only thing that could stain glass"

something like that at least

[-Leski]

its all good, jsut dont use the stuff.
It is the only thing I can think of that can leave a lasting mark on glass other then a scribe or drill bit...

Brilliant colours olick, shits hot.

[rave905]

i dont c y every1 considers etch 2 be the devil
like i no it can get u in a really messy sitch but so can nething else that u do that day thats illegal

its like ur all hardcore cristians n we r claiming to b jesus like u want nuthin 2 do with us n u just shun us
not that i use etch
but thats 4 diff reasons

[sir.one]

i don't like risking other peoples fingers for a tag. well...thats a lie too.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1381/1195600771_cc8dc5a49a.jpg?v=0

[Vagrant]

my bad Biz. You are correct. Nail Polish is acetone based and acetone is part of the ketone family, not the alcohol family. small mistake.

[HEY.LOOK.AT.ME]

yo ink monsters what do u think is the best thing 2 use 2 help with ink fading in the sun????

[Vagrant]

pigment

[HEY.LOOK.AT.ME]

thats quite the brod anwser
ne specific pigments work best

[rave905]

^^^haha ive been askin this 4 a while now n thats the only awnser ive ever gotten

[Darkeist]

okay so i got my candy ink in and it says it contains xylol does that mean i can only put it in like a pilot or something, or is that xylene, is there a difference in it?

[Rogue]

You don't deserve Candy if you can't figure that out, but I'll help you anyway because I'm a nice guy.

Xylol is basically Xylene, you hould only put it in metal markers like a pilot, but I still put things with xylene in them in plastic mops. It depends on the plastic really.

[Olick]

rogue what did i tell you about tagging my magazines

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o318/mrshee/Image033.jpg

shame on you

[Darkeist]

You don't deserve Candy if you can't figure that out, but I'll help you anyway because I'm a nice guy.

Xylol is basically Xylene, you hould only put it in metal markers like a pilot, but I still put things with xylene in them in plastic mops. It depends on the plastic really.

okay thanks, so like one of those **** mops would be fine? just not a kiwi?

[Buhda420]

can you use semen to make your inks stain harder?
and if u put your "candy ink" in a kiwi itl be gone within the day

[Rogue]

Sorry

:(

[Rogue]

okay thanks, so like one of those **** mops would be fine? just not a kiwi?

Personally, if youthat worried about it, fill up your mop and use all of the ink inside it. You never know, xylene is unpredictable. It may make a leak, it may not.


can you use semen to make your inks stain harder

Shut up, I told you not to tell people my secret

:(

[Darkeist]

Alright thanks rogue

[thesilentvandal]

how do i make the ink in sharpie paint's water based, cuz i busted a montana marker from a kid and its water based montana markers kinda shit,

[rave905]

yo ink monsters what do u think is the best thing 2 use 2 help with ink fading in the sun????
bump in hopes that it gets awnserd beside just pigment

[Rogue]

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[BizerkIZ]

hahahah :D hows it been man?

[thesilentvandal]

how do i make the ink in sharpie paint's water based, cuz i busted a montana marker from a kid and its water based montana markers kinda shit,


hello ...

[FidelGastro]

Uhh im pretty sure if an ink isnt water based you cant make it water based....that would be logical no? wtf do you mean the montana is water based...im sure it re-fillable if you dont like whats in it, open it, empty it, and re-fill it?

[Olick]

why dont you just clean it out and fill it with good ink

[Rogue]

hahahah :D hows it been man?

Haha, fine.

Get on aim, we need to talk about our secret inks that these children wish to have.

:D

[HEY.LOOK.AT.ME]

P
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ne examples??

[thesilentvandal]

why dont you just clean it out and fill it with good ink


because i dont have any :'(

[Vagrant]

disolved pigments fade
suspended pigments are light-fast (don't fade)

disolved pigments = dye
suspended pigments = paint

[HEY.LOOK.AT.ME]

so ur esentially sayin all ink pigments fade
but not all inks fade so wtf is that???

y cant u just give me an awnser i can understand
instead of making urself feel big by knowing more then me

[HEY.LOOK.AT.ME]

.....................................

[sir.one]

okay so i got my candy ink in and it says it contains xylol does that mean i can only put it in like a pilot or something, or is that xylene, is there a difference in it?

put it in a bingo dabber. everything will be fine..

[-Leski]

Answer = Pigment

More pigment, Stronger colour?
Less pigment, weaker colour?

High quality pigment, longer lasting?
Low qaulity pigment, fades and breaks down faster?

Use your noggin, chance or god gave you a brain. Use it.

[Olick]

put it in a bingo dabber. everything will be fine..

thats insane! its obvious itll explode.

xylene dont eat plastics like i thought it would.

ive had 2 plastic bottle filled wit it for about 2 months n nothin hapened to it.


but rogue does advice that you get some respirator...

xylene. ...it fucks you up =D *thumps up*

[Darkeist]

put it in a bingo dabber. everything will be fine..

i cant tell if your being sarcastic or not, but if your not thanks

[Olick]

hes cereal

[sir.one]

im not.

[djsupreeme]

xylene will eat plastic but not if its thick enough. like 0.5-1mm i bet ull you'll be ok cause its not 100% xylene.

[Darkeist]

Thanks for the ood answer dj

[djsupreeme]

well im pretty sure ded inside has xylene in it because it ate the top of a kiwi type mop i had which was very thin transparent plastic. but i have some in a zig woodcraft and nothing is wrong with it. the bottom shows some sign of the xylene trying to get through and u can tell because its a bit thinner where the marks are but its been in there for months and i dont think anythign else will happen.

so thats what im saying, the thicker the plastic the more safe you will be.

[anti-anti-crime]

thats even happened to me with pilot ink. i cant remember the marker but the pilot completely fucked it up, it might just b fumes or a certain chemical, doesnt have to exylene but any other chemical thats acidic to certain plastics
just my 2 cents

[Rogue]

well im pretty sure ded inside has xylene in it because it ate the top of a kiwi type mop i had which was very thin transparent plastic. but i have some in a zig woodcraft and nothing is wrong with it. the bottom shows some sign of the xylene trying to get through and u can tell because its a bit thinner where the marks are but its been in there for months and i dont think anythign else will happen.

so thats what im saying, the thicker the plastic the more safe you will be.

I have the DED recipe and it doesn't have xylene in it. But it does have ingriedients that will soften plastic.

[MUSEone]

<333333333333333333333333

[sir.one]

so are you going to tell us or? what?

MY DED recipe doesn't have xylene in it. but it eats babys.

[anti-anti-crime]

i eat people like you for breakfast with my eggs

[-des-]

I heard that if you add leather dye to your ink it will stain better, and i just racked a kiwi if i leave some of that leather dye in there will it fuck up my ink or will it help?

[ViaHipHop]

kiwi is shit.i dont know if it will fuck it up but i doubt it will do much of anything you have to get good leather dye like griffin and shit

[anti-anti-crime]

its not leather dye, its pretty much useless. just empty all the shit out and use the kiwi for a mop. and if u want a good staining leather dye get griffin or fieblings. got some a couple days ago, pretty good shit.

[Zork.one]

i just got a NYC MOP and im not sure what to put in it.
any idea's?

[anti-anti-crime]

DED outdoorsmen or indoors depending wat u wanna do
**** ink
not shur if itll flow but witches brew
garvey
krink if u can get it
GK (ghetto krink)

but dont take it from me seeing how ive only used 3 out of the 6

[Just Another]

let's see... Ink or paint...

Edit: anti beqt me to it...

[Zork.one]

DED outdoorsmen or indoors depending wat u wanna do
**** ink
not shur if itll flow but witches brew
garvey
krink if u can get it
GK (ghetto krink)

but dont take it from me seeing how ive only used 3 out of the 6

lots of ppl have mentioned the outdoorsmen, so im gona go with that, thanks.

[anti-anti-crime]

no prob, atleast your not askin "how do i put ink into this, oh GoDz"

[harry]

hahaha

just got another 16ox bottle of **** i love it and ive still got garvey like half a bottle full

[Olick]

xylene will eat plastic but not if its thick enough. like 0.5-1mm i bet ull you'll be ok cause its not 100% xylene.

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o318/mrshee/Image004-1.jpg


then can you explain why that hasnt eaten through my plastic bottles..

[Rogue]

Pwnt

[Jet]

anybody that's on the fence about witches brew should buy it. shit's soooo good!

[sir.one]

its prefect for dabbers.

on a side note. india ink stains metal. who woulda thought

[Olick]

Pwnt

its also those economic plastic water bottles that have 30% less plastic

so...


double pwnt

[Abeone]

kay guys, so i have an important question. recently, liek it shows in the closed recipe thread, i mixed 2 parts acrylic paint, and 1 part water to get a decent drip, DOPE colour paint-ink. Now, it says that sharpie stains better than that shit, and that its very buffable as its just acrylic paint.....but if i add some fish oil tablets, or some brake fluid...will it make it more potent for walls and shit? and make it slightly more inkish?

[Just Another]

No dot 3 and fish oil are for inks...

[ViaHipHop]

paint=not permenant.

basicly you use paint to get sick colors.

[sir.one]

kay guys, so i have an important question. recently, liek it shows in the closed recipe thread, i mixed 2 parts acrylic paint, and 1 part water to get a decent drip, DOPE colour paint-ink. Now, it says that sharpie stains better than that shit, and that its very buffable as its just acrylic paint.....but if i add some fish oil tablets, or some brake fluid...will it make it more potent for walls and shit? and make it slightly more inkish?


when i wrote that i was only stating that its only ment to be pretty not staining, you can't add dot 3 to paint. only to ink. you can't make it more inkish. you can add more water for more drips. or start working with oil based paints.

(^^ they beat me to it.)

[Abeone]

alright, thanks guys.

[djsupreeme]

wow rouge and olick, sorry for interrupting your anal gangbang session with each other.

" 4. Special precautions: Xylene attacks some coatings and some forms of plastic and rubber."

so maybe its just some types of plastic
http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/healthguidelines/xylene/recognition.html

[ViaHipHop]

no prob but yea like sir said work with oil its more permenant and not as easy to buff out.

[Just Another]

Plus GK is just as easy to make and with the same proportions... Just different stuff...

[Abeone]

yeye, ive always made oil based rusto ink, ghetto krink or whatever, but this was my first time working with acrylic...somebody should really work out how the fuck markwell does it so well.

[Just Another]

I don't think they use acrylic... But what they do use is waterbased...

[RUDE_Bwoy]

dont know if its been posted yet but can i make ink outta wite out?

[Just Another]

I don't think so... But there is always white paint...

[Rogue]

yeye, ive always made oil based rusto ink, ghetto krink or whatever, but this was my first time working with acrylic...somebody should really work out how the fuck markwell does it so well.

It's basically acylic base with pigment.

Basically, acrylic paint with more base added to it.

[acereborn]

dont know if its been posted yet but can i make ink outta wite out?

I'm not sure about that, but if you want white there is always the ded outdoorsman - comes in a few colors and I know white is one of them.

But you got me thinking, I'm going to go try making some out of whiteout, I'll edit my post when i get back.




Edit: I don't think it makes sense to do this anyways since white out comes in such tiny amounts

BUT: it was hard to get the right consistency where it would flow through a mop, but not drip an insane amount. I did one water bottle cap of white out, half a cap of nail polish remover and a dash of paint thinner. It was too thick before i put the nail polish remover in, but after that it was too drippy.

Go with ded..

[Rogue]

Yes, can make ink out of white out.

But being able to thin it the right way is expensive. Just put it into a mop if you want to use it as ink.

[Jet]

white out + nail polish remover no?

[Rogue]

If you want shit, sure.

[Olick]

hahahhaha^^^


wow rouge and olick, sorry for interrupting your anal gangbang session with each other.

" 4. Special precautions: Xylene attacks some coatings and some forms of plastic and rubber."

so maybe its just some types of plastic
http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/healthguidelines/xylene/recognition.html

and yes you did disturb our anal orgy. GAWD!!

on the side note. what you guys buff test your paints with. goofoff is good but i didnt kno you had to be 18 to buy it.

[Vagrant]

buff test with soap and water, a general cleaner, and then a graffiti cleaner. graffiti cleaners like goofoff are generally made with xylene, toluene, alcohols.. so if you cant get goofoff, just use those bases.
xylene, denatured alcohol, isopropyl...

[Flash_One]

do you guys have any fucking clue how to thin out junobo i tried paint thinner but it fucked up hard.?

[Rogue]

Because it's not oil-based

[Flash_One]

yeah i know that but what could i thin it out with water? im guessing its some sort of accrilic shit. cause i find it way to thick.

[harry]

yeah i know that but what could i thin it out with water? im guessing its some sort of accrilic shit. cause i find it way to thick.

junobo is water based paint + mustard powder + GK... but i just got some aswell shit sucks balls fuck that go ghetto krink please dont buy it its way to thik ima just try adding water to it an see wha happens?

[Rogue]

No it's not

It's acrylic paint thinned.

The recipe yu said is Biz and I's and it is 100% ours, not ghetto junobo. And the recipe isn't that anyway, thats just the basic's of it.

[harry]

i hate life so much i just wanted to see how it was so i ordered some and its a fucking bottle of acrillic i have like five bottles of acrillic sitting around in better colours than that shit and better consistancy what fucking gay cunts

[Just Another]

Plus on the website it says it is oil based...

[anti-anti-crime]

it is oil based but it has acylic in it. after doin a tag on my closet door with it i waited till it dried, and fuck, u can peel it off, it took me 10 minutes with sand paper to it to get it completely off
and just so yall aint expecting, im just goin to do the buff test of the **** in spring when i can open my window to get the fumes out

[harry]

fucking faggets should be making it better for writers not worse

[anti-anti-crime]

they think they are, and i think they just wanna share wat they like with the world. can u really blame them for that? im all for the "if it sucks dont bring it here" type of thing but mayb they thught it was really nice

[sir.one]

why. when you could make its cheaper for yourself and still fuck loads of toys to buy it. i would do the same thing.

[Rogue]

He only cares about money, just like otr, moltov, and krink.

[anti-anti-crime]

krink is a nice ink though, ive got one of his k71 markers and i love it.

[harry]

yeah accept otr molotow and krink actually have decent markers and the ink is atleast alcohol based and ill give molotow props for making empty markers at cheap prices

[sir.one]

molotow has shit markers not the ink/paint but the shitty quality of their markers. bunk as hell.

[anti-anti-crime]

yea, molotow makes some pretty shitty markers, i have a mini 411 and whenever u shake it up ink explodes into the cap

[sir.one]

thats with any ink marker.

[harry]

i have 5 ive never had a problem and the empty markers are the shit fill them wth **** and there sexy as hell

[fonone]

paint=not permenant.

basicly you use paint to get sick colors.

and big ups

[sir.one]

^ there you go.

[harry]

why get big ups with easy to buf shit when you can get big ups with hard to buff ink?

[anti-anti-crime]

because people are retarded

[letsg0skate]

Why not use whatever you can? Paint is much easier to get than ink. I could either pour paint and thinner into a marker/mop or wait all night or longer to make pen ink. I'm going with the paint. Usually the people who are worried about the hardest staining stuff are toys anyways. Also, your "retarted" if your so worried about what other people use, when in reality you probably just make your ink and don't even use it.

[sir.one]

once again. maybe you do 2 tags a night but some people go out and rock 100 and if 10 get buffed. still big ups.

[harry]

yeah two of the most up crews in my city are cpo and mts and there toy as hell but they have mad stains they run all city every day in train insides my citys melbourne by the way

[anti-anti-crime]

one of the biggest and best crews in philly right now is DHS1, all they use is spray paint and mayb a good drippy tag here and there, but when they do choose to use a mop they use hard staining ink so it can last longer

[harry]

yeah hahaha dont worry melbourne has maaaaaad good all city crews as well not just two toy crews

[shie-ster]

krink is a nice ink though, ive got one of his k71 markers and i love it.

techniccly, that ink isnt original krink.
theirs alot more to it, but basicly kr slaps his label on markers he buys from ______.
the ink in his squeeze mops isnt original krink either.
the original krink was a high quality oil based paint and from what im told, its now a alcohol based ink made by another company.

[sir.one]

toy as hell but they have mad stains

why this thread shouldn't exist.

[harry]

yeah and his shits still over priced

[anti-anti-crime]

which brings us bak to monopolization of graf supplies

[harry]

yeah well sir ill give them props for going all city in melbourne its not a easy thing to do here there is a huge scene and its a massive city

[fonone]

Why not use whatever you can? Paint is much easier to get than ink. I could either pour paint and thinner into a marker/mop or wait all night or longer to make pen ink. I'm going with the paint. Usually the people who are worried about the hardest staining stuff are toys anyways. Also, your "retarted" if your so worried about what other people use, when in reality you probably just make your ink and don't even use it.

couldnt have said it better. id rather be up everywhere than have 2 SoOpAH doopah hard staining ink tags. plus like skate said paint is a hell of a lot easier to get and requires very little effort to thin it or w/e.

[Rogue]

Then all of you can leave the thread, if you don't give a sh about ink, then stay out or quit bitching.

The whole last page was a fucking waste.

[Jet]

try the last 7 or so pages.

seriously nothing good has been thrown around lately.

this acrylic shit trend is getting annoying too.

[harry]

yeah but when you have alot of ink then i would prefer use that then paint

edit: dident see the last two posts sorry ill just say some thing to hopefully get an ink related convo going is there any thing i can throw into my **** to make it pitch black?

[Jet]

the next time you fill something with it, make a quarter of it pen ink.

ex. mini mop= 3/4 **** 1/4 black ass pen ink.

edit: also for the sake of ink discussion generating purposes: carbon sticks from Michaels, good or not? It doesn't say if it's pure or anything it's just labeled "Carbon"

[harry]

thanks just one thing though pen ink normally is purple when i use black pens

[Jet]

do you add charcoal and evapped shit?

[Case-One]

so i just cut up like 97 pens in a water bottle, could i get some tips from there on what to do to make some good ink?

[harry]

oh yeah good plan ill put charcoal in forgot about that one

[Jet]

so i just cut up like 97 pens in a water bottle, could i get some tips from there on what to do to make some good ink?

read the stickied ink thread.

kook.

[Case-One]

where is that?

[harry]

grow some eyes.

[Case-One]

you don't gota be a dick man it's just a question

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

wtf...key word...STICKIED...GOTO INK AND RECIPIES OR W.E ITS CLLED..ITS RIGHT THERE FIRST PAGE

[Case-One]

alright, just relax spaz i just found it, sorry for asking, thanx

[harry]

i think there should be a new rule in this thread and that rule is that beforee you ask a question you must hae searched for it in the stickied thread and if the answer to your question isnt in there then you can come and ask yuor question here

[Darkeist]

they should have just left the other thread, and made the sticky that they have now, but kept the old thread.

[letsg0skate]

this whole thread has been weak so far. Not that I care...

[Jet]

you care enough to keep checkin it

[letsg0skate]

Yeah because it's the only thread people post in often. Also, OCCASIONALLY there is a post worth reading.

[harry]

lol i bet you if the whole stickied ink thread was posted at the top of every page in this thread we would still get the same questions

[Case-One]

i find it funny that theres three questions on here about INK and 33 pages of you kids getting in fights about kids asking questions that this thred was made for, so just relax and don't pee your pants over a post about a dumb question, i asked a few questions that were already anwsered in other post that i had no clue about, so i'm sorry you kids got so mad about it that you had to reach over and post about how stupid i am, peace

[fonone]

lol i bet you if the whole stickied ink thread was posted at the top of every page in this thread we would still get the same questions

and the same useless comments^^

[Yuckasfuck]

Ink anyone?
lol


Someone posted that goof off was alcohol etc, was wondering if you could use it with biro's to extract the ink.
Anyone tried it?
Also, could it not be used as a thinner?
If anyone has any, could they post the ingredients?

[Jet]

goo off isn't about to thin anything, you ever seen how thick it is?

[snap_pxc]

The only ink you will ever need:

Get 50 bic roundstick pens, I use red and blue with a couple black for a really nice deep purple.

pump all of the ink out of the pens with a bike pump into a bottle.

cut all the pens (the part that HAD the ink) into small pieces and drop them into another bottle.

add a cup of alcohol (91% isopropel is ok but u can find 99% out there.) to the bottle with the pen pieces and shake the fuck out of it for say 2 minutes.

then dump that into the bottle with the ink base in it, shake the fuck out of that bottle for a few minutes.

throw some additives in there, I added some ashes (make sure they are burned as much as they will) to thicken it, and then I added a couple drops of super glue to help it dry quicker.

Ink drips nice if u want and it stains like a motherfucker.

jst dont get it on ANYTHING this ink ruins what ever it touches, including the nanolieum floor:(

[Yuckasfuck]

Super glue lol.

Na jet i've never seen it, what's in it? lol

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

that super glue idea is preety smart....i wanna find the green ink pens must be a nice dark green colorr

[Rogue]

Super glue won't help your ink, but whatever. I don't care what you do, it's not my ink.

And goof off isn't what I would call a quality base, it's a mix of a bunch of different bases, which in my opinion makes an un-pure base.

[con]

my fucking ink is see through how do u make it darker

[HEY.LOOK.AT.ME]

take the lid off n let it sit at ur window 4 a few days
maybe even a week or 2 if its as thin as u say it is

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

Lmfao !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Vagrant]

The only ink you will ever need:
Get 50 bic roundstick pens, I use red and blue with a couple black for a really nice deep purple.
pump all of the ink out of the pens with a bike pump into a bottle.
cut all the pens (the part that HAD the ink) into small pieces and drop them into another bottle.
add a cup of alcohol (91% isopropel is ok but u can find 99% out there.) to the bottle with the pen pieces and shake the fuck out of it for say 2 minutes.
then dump that into the bottle with the ink base in it, shake the fuck out of that bottle for a few minutes.
throw some additives in there, I added some ashes (make sure they are burned as much as they will) to thicken it, and then I added a couple drops of super glue to help it dry quicker.
Ink drips nice if u want and it stains like a motherfucker.
jst dont get it on ANYTHING this ink ruins what ever it touches, including the nanolieum floor:(

So you just told us how to make basic pen ink. Which is in the stickied recipe thread, and all of us know how to make.
50 pens to 1 cup of isopropyl is pretty weak. Try 100+ pens to 1 cup.
You don't need the bike pump, just let the tubes soak in the alcohol overnight then shake it.
The only "special" thing you mention is superglue. Which is a dumb idea because it would most likely mess with the staining power of the ink. Isopropanol evaporates fast enough. Add some DOT3 to make it greasy, which slows the drying time slightly, so the solvent dyes in the pen ink can stain the surface. The superglue would most likely prevent the dyes from staining the surface because they would dry on the surface instead.
Besides superglue can be weakened with soap and water, thats why they tell you on the back of the packaging to use soap and water if you glue your fingers together.

PS. Its LINOLEUM not "nanolieum" genius

@Con: what kind of ink did you make? If its pen ink then you used way too much alcohol or way too few pens. Add ashes (from paper or cigarettes or the fireplace) to thicken, or very very finely crushed charcoal.

[Rambooboo]

tried leaven my ink in the window it didnt work neither did ash anything else

[acereborn]

try waiting longer... or make new ink..

[sir.one]

some one figure out how mark well makes their ish. so impressed buy that shit.

[MUSEone]

please......PLEASE....tell me....ur kidding

[Rogue]

I posted it like 3 pages back Sir.

[sir.one]

It's basically acylic base with pigment.

Basically, acrylic paint with more base added to it.

step bi step needed.

[Rogue]

To make MarkWell/MTN/Posterman paint.

Now, you can always just thin acrylic paint with water, but that will reduc the opacity of the paint.

Acrylic paint is acrylic polymer emulsion mixed with pigment.

The more polymer emulsion, the thinner your mix will be.

First take about 3/4 pigment to 1/4 water or 1/2 pigment to 1/2 water. Mix them together.

Next add as much acrylic emulsion as needed to make it your desired consistency.

It's very basic really, you shouldn't have a problem.

[sir.one]

where can i get the emulsion and the pigment?

[Rogue]

Michaels should have both.

[Just Another]

is that the same as woodcraft paint too?

[kog_throwie]

yes

[con]

well my ink that waz see through its gone i just got my grog

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

jus made my pen ink batch

http://i26.tinypic.com/ea45yt.jpg

http://i27.tinypic.com/vdnuiu.jpg

http://i31.tinypic.com/2i0fd3q.jpg

http://i30.tinypic.com/t4urti.jpg


and has anyone ever seen these the company that makes them is called DELTA CREATiVE ..AND THE PRODUCT is called Pure Color "Rich Pigment Ink"

http://i31.tinypic.com/s6j1ty.jpg

[H3TT1NG3R]

hey guys ive been lurking around this thread for a while now, and im wicked interested in ink chemistry, but i only know the basics-methylene blue, pen ink, gk, and soem other stuff.

oya and heres soem stuff i found out the hard way
-phenopthalene soultion mixed with sodium carbonate i think even though it ids a nice purple bright pink, it goes back to clear when mixed with an acidic ink-and doesnt really do mcuh ne ways haha
-Copper ammonium sulfate- the bright pretty blue does not mix with alcohol, it forms a precipitate-owell
-stamp ink never dries-ever
-prussian blue even when evaporated to get the powder still isnt so effective.


i look forward to jacking soem iodine and maybe methylene blue from my science teacher later, and ill experiment with those..ik about the methylene blue, but does anyone have any other info on iodine besides when u mix it wiht sugar it turns black/purple? liek is it soluble easily in alcohol?

[thesilentvandal]

hey guys ive been lurking around this thread for a while now, and im wicked interested in ink chemistry, but i only know the basics-methylene blue, pen ink, gk, and soem other stuff.


hey i know you, from the skateboarding site .

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

experiment....test it out..try to buff it out see how good it holds up...bring your recipe here if you wanna....

[H3TT1NG3R]

hey i know you, from the skateboarding site .

ahah ya dawsek-dude i feel liek a pedo but i lurk your photobucket, ur shit is ill.

[Yuckasfuck]

Haha ye know how all these toys keep asking bout mixing etch and ink?
And still dont believe anyone when they tell them how stupid it is?
http://www.youtube.com/v/but4nhPMIWw&rel=1

edit:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhV7xs50rcg&feature=related
Why doesnt her finger burn? lol

N sorry to bring up etch lol, just thought people would wanna see that first vid.

[rave905]

awwww i thought i was gonna b some1 hand fuct up or sumthin cool like that
i already knew etch did that

[Yuckasfuck]

Congratulations.
Everyone knows it does that, just showing what it actually does for people who don't take that word of advice lol

[FidelGastro]

Good post yuck I never actually seen etch in action before

[H3TT1NG3R]

hhaaha etch is so hardcore. what are the benifits of it? liek why do n00bs want to use it?

[rave905]

because it permanent untill they replace the glass

n i know sum asshole is gonna go all techniqual n b like oh thiers other ways 2 get it off
i know but i dun feel like gettin into it
n ive never seen it done b4

[H3TT1NG3R]

haha shit thats hardcore. but just watchign that vdeo makes me never wanna get near that shit

[Yuckasfuck]

What the fuck is a n00b h3twhatever lol?
I mean i've heard of toys.
And i've heard of newbs n shit for computer games, but this is graff.
Jst sounds pretty gay i think.

Edit:N that vid is only what happens when its put on ink, or rather silver grog in the vid.

[H3TT1NG3R]

n00b=newb. whatever i use it for anything where people are 'new' to shit. toy sounds wicked gay imo.

and does anyone know anything about using iodine?

[Yuckasfuck]

Hahahahah do you write?
N that is a serious question.

[H3TT1NG3R]

ahha ya

[sir.one]

Why doesnt her finger burn? lol


cream is weak. its only used to make the glass white.

[ViaHipHop]

yea i started up the talk a few pages back but i just wanted to know if anything can stain glass......

do staples(brand) pens suck?

[Enmity]

cream is weak. its only used to make the glass white.

thanks for clearing that up sir .. im going to add an etch section to the sticky in a few

[MUSEone]

thank you. now i wont feel bad when all the toys burn their fucking hands off.

[RUDE_Bwoy]

is feibrins good by itself

[FidelGastro]

nvm was thinking of angelus

[H3TT1NG3R]

hey i just got some methylene blue in liquid form from the pet store..should i evaporate it for the powder? or is it fine, since its only liek 2.7% water? if i should evaporate it, whats the best way so i can collect the most powder?

[FidelGastro]

Jar on your window sill in the sun

(open jar)

[H3TT1NG3R]

^so i should evaporate it? and how should i go about gettign out the powder? or should i just put alcohol in that jar and have it in alcohol solution?

[FidelGastro]

WHen the water evaps you can just scoop out the powder. whether you wanna just pour the alc in there afterwards is totally up to you