The Ink Discussion Thread

[wired_615]

how much dose it cost to ship something in thouse flat rate boxes?

[ReKoNe~!]

lammles western wear sells the dye

[H3TT1NG3R]

haha yea thats the onyl downside. proly like 10$ tops for like a BOX of 4 cans.
so get a big ass envelope and shuv in 3 cans with some bubble wrap

[rush2]

sucks though

[rush2]

sorry i ment to post on onother page fuck im high

[paecher]

if your mixing oil based paint dont get that shit on ur hands its hard as hell to get off!!!!

[H3TT1NG3R]

no it isnt...

[rush2]

just wipe it off wit thinner

[rush2]

yo h3tt were are you in cali im in oc

[fnt]

will ink with charcoal in it work in pump markers?

[Siner]

If you run it through a coffee filter, or some kinda filter, it should be fine.

[rush2]

you dont realy need to iff its well disolved

also isnt pvc primer eat thrugh plastic

[ReKoNe~!]

yea... filtering your ink would be stupid
just get the charcoal grinded into a fine dust

[Siner]

How is that stupid? Filtering it would atleast tell you if it was thin enought to flow through a nib.

[ReKoNe~!]

huh? make sense

[H3TT1NG3R]

yea i used to coffee filter my ink, but if you just add carbon randomly its all going to filter out.
so you gotta use shellac or some sort of binder so your charcoal stays in there. might still wanna filter if your charcoal isnt like mega fine powder

[rush2]

Quick Question
doesnt pvc primer eat through plastic

[paecher]

I use glue stick markers not the twist ones i make some thick ass ink and they flow fine if you have thick ink like that though and you use it on something with a nib its going to suck it wont work. So get something like a glue stick marker for ur ink if its thick as hell.

[ReKoNe~!]

where can you get solid iodine?

[H3TT1NG3R]

only online. ive looked into it
or if your chem teacher has some

[ILL]

anybody know how long the acrylic paint with water mix last outside without a buff?

[rush2]

it will last quite a while
will pvc primer eat through a water bottle

[JayAyDubZed]

anybody know how long the acrylic paint with water mix last outside without a buff?

Longer than you think. Cept on some surfaces it doesn't come out that great. and if its a tiny bit wet then it just fucks it.

[SAID]

It'll last as logn as you want it, unless for some reason it cracks or scratches off.
Depending on the acrylic you choose and how long it stay there, the color might fade.

[massacreman]

Just one small question,
would **** ink (oi nk ink, pig ink you know?) work in a pump valve marker like a molotow 620PP? Wouldn't it leak badly?

[massacreman]

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/8/frog_bump.jpg


Just one small question,
would **** ink (oi nk ink, pig ink you know?) work in a pump valve marker like a molotow 620PP? Wouldn't it leak badly?

[H3TT1NG3R]

why would it?
so no

[massacreman]

okay thanks man

[SAID]

Im pretty sure 01nk can flow through a valve marker?

[rush2]

anyone ever used the alcohol inks from ranger as an addative stains pretty hard

[MARTYRaz]

damn..new members up in this bitch...been too damn long without a comp...heres a ?..nebody use penetrol to thin gk???
and yes o i n k does flow thro a pump marker pretty nice actually...

[SuckiT]

this seems like the best place to post .. i have a kiwi .. and some paint ... now what ..?

do i water it down .. put break fluid in there /// whats the dealio? can someone help me please ..

[H3TT1NG3R]

lmao. is it water based paint? then thin it with water
if its oil based thin it with paint thiner or soem shit.

@ martyr, whats penetrol?

[SuckiT]

lmao. is it water based paint? then thin it with water
if its oil based thin it with paint thiner or soem shit.

@ martyr, whats penetrol?


I have no clue ... its paint in a can ... either way you answered my question ..

why do people talk about break fluid around here ... I've never made "ink" so im pretty ignorant about the topic .

[OctoVenom]

anyone have cario ink and if so any good

[MARTYRaz]

lmao. is it water based paint? then thin it with water
if its oil based thin it with paint thiner or soem shit.

@ martyr, whats penetrol?
penetrol is the equivelent to flotrol...flotrol is a latex paint additive to reduce the brush marks u make wen painting and an alternitive to thinning with water...and penetrol is the same just for oil based paints...i should just try it..i get it for free neway...i was just thinking it could be used to thin gk so no streaks...

[H3TT1NG3R]

oo maybe,

[PegCityBoy]

k so i am low as hell when it comes to ink ,and paint actually, but all our city's got is montana gold at $12 a can and ironlak but i want some spanish montana. anyway i'm gonna order about $50 in ink what i was thinking is a 16oz bottle of black **** a bottle of grog and a bottle of D.E.D. i jus don't know what colours to get of the grog and ded

[fnt]

anyone tried these dykem opaque stains? they look pretty tight http://markingpendepot.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=34

[Aerosoloholic]

giant bottles!

[fnt]

they have smaller bottles too

[H3TT1NG3R]

for 12$ id try it

[two point two]

any one try mixing etch cream
and any form of color

[krom96]

Hey guys... The other day I found out a new ink that flows thru anything.

what you need:
China ink
rubbing alchool
20 black pens
about a cap of brake fluid dot 3

mix all

that's it

____________________
from montreal

[Aerosoloholic]

lol

[paecher]

Whats everyones opinon of this smash ink?

[boby678]

not opaque at all...

[CrustOner]

Smash ink is crazy opaque. People don't even know if it is ink or paint, it's that thick and opaque. I have the teal and the red, and they are both fucking ridiculous.

[Shurik*n]

is there anything else i can use other than brake fluid?

[gcrolla]

http://image.misterart.com/grouppix/528x352/1000/g1521.jpg

Is this stuff any good? Found a place that has it not sure if it worth the trip

[Camer]

"Creates the look of "etched" glass"

What do you think?

[H3TT1NG3R]

get it and try it. but it loks like you ahve to mix 2 parts

[paecher]

http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu6/paecher2009/paechdrips.jpg
HERE'S THE INK I MAKE PRETTY SOON IT'LL BE ON THE MARKET IF UR INTERESTED IN BUYING SOME LET ME KNOW COMES IN MINTGREEN,DARK GREY,BLACK, AND PINK OR I CAN GIVE U SOME IDEAS ON MAKING INK.

[Vagrant]

whats going on in this bitch?
*looks through last couple of pages*

...nevermind

[fnt]

I'd be interested to know some ideas on making ink. I tried to pm you but apparently you can't get pm's.

[rush2]

I just made ink from 160 pens
1 cup 91% alcohol
pvc primer
break fluid
just did a buff test w/ alcohol on metal and it barely fades yet doesnt stand up to 1 layer of paint any bleed thru chemicals?

[MARTYRaz]

looks like gk to me paecher..not at all thar hard to make gk diff colors..lets see some buff test pics and the diff colors..

u should just replaced the alc with the pvc primer..and pen ink is garbage..

[rush2]

ok and what do i use in place of pens

[MARTYRaz]

im saying pen ink in general...is garbage...but u gotta start somewhere and thats how i started with inks...keep using the pens..

[Camer]

I made ink that stands up to the vancouver transit buff using pens sooo I'd say it doesn't suck that bad, using pvc primer, isoprop and some other shit. If any of you 604 heads are walking through Columbia station its on a garbage can.

I do not take any responsibility for writing that tag, just making the ink which isnt illegal.

[EGO31]

Actually, yeah I'm interested now. making my first ink batch soon. soon as I find enough pens. Any brake fluid work? Presuming I should do this outside for fumage and shit, then just clamp on th lied for a day and chill.

[Shurik*n]

^^use dot 3

and... i've still been wondering

is there anything else i can use other than brake fluid?

[rush2]

fish oil

is it possible to lett all the water evaporate from ich shit to get the machalite green

[springbreak95]

fish oil

is it possible to lett all the water evaporate from ich shit to get the machalite green

yeah i have done it a couple of times it just takes mad long for it to evaporate and i am not sure if it is even worth it that much

and with the whole fish oil brake fluid deal just dont do it its whack and not worth it quit worrying about how hard it stains and just go out more

[EGO31]

I don't think we have dot three in aus. So, any brake fluid work?

[CrustOner]

It's not a brand. It's common on a lot of brake fluid brands, just look for where it says "Dot 3" on the bottle.

[EGO31]

Cheers. Will have a look around a servo.

[MARTYRaz]

I made ink that stands up to the vancouver transit buff using pens sooo I'd say it doesn't suck that bad, using pvc primer, isoprop and some other shit. If any of you 604 heads are walking through Columbia station its on a garbage can.

I do not take any responsibility for writing that tag, just making the ink which isnt illegal.
if u did it on a plastic garbage can(which it probalbly was) its a pourus surface so the ink seeped into the little holes..write on a plastic garbage can with a sharpie and buff it...ull get the same thing..pen ink is shit..fades in the sun...buffs easy...stains ur hands and thats about it...use it for insides if at all...

[paecher]

i'd be interested to know some ideas on making ink. I tried to pm you but apparently you can't get pm's.


i'll fix my pm ink's not to hard to make that shit i makes alchol and oil based there's alot of shit in there that makes it stain and hard to buff

[Camer]

if u did it on a plastic garbage can(which it probalbly was) its a pourus surface so the ink seeped into the little holes..write on a plastic garbage can with a sharpie and buff it...ull get the same thing..pen ink is shit..fades in the sun...buffs easy...stains ur hands and thats about it...use it for insides if at all...

It was painted metal.

Not the transit station just some door.
http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/ww55/Duddits/draw018.jpg

[Baron]

Damn, I've been here for more than two years now and this thread can't seem to go two whole pages with out some kid asking how to make ink or some dumb-ass recipe that involves raiding your fridge. Seriously. Now I've been gone for a while and I think we need to get this thread back on track.

Now, one of the main ideas that I think we should focus on is using pigmented inks that stain hard. They will stick out more and last longer as well as soaking into the surface fairly well. Some people on here swear by pigmented ink and use it in what seems to be the holy grail of writers ink. So, does anyone know where we could find some pigmented ink that is not water soluble?

[H3TT1NG3R]

you haveta make your own. unless you order liek marsh online

[Camer]

egg yolk is an emulsifier, but it could it be used to combine pigments and dyes in ink?

[H3TT1NG3R]

....this isnt like 15th century in china

[Camer]

Fine, shellac

[Hurs]

i have a can of tremclad bucket ink.. i was wondering if i can use terpentine to mix it.. will this work?

[rush2]

Fucking search damit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[rush2]

anyways I made some shit I call plasti-ink
like five stock caps melted down
thin with acentone till its a good consitency
a bit of iodine gv and mb in crystal form
fuckass hard to get off and leaves a nice stain but I am trying to make it pop out a bit more
props to h3tt for the idea

[H3TT1NG3R]

lmao! i did it with caulk not like plastic toys. good to know it wokrs tho

[rush2]

ya it works pretty nice but my first batch fucked up couse I left the lid off LOL

[H3TT1NG3R]

hah is it mad thick?

[rush2]

haha ya so thick i cant even get that shit out to re melt it lol

[H3TT1NG3R]

lmao yeahh maybe you should try thinning plastic liek substances that are already semi liquid atleast.

[rush2]

ya your right lmao the second batch turned out great though

ps by the way where are you in CA Im in OC

[BizerkIZ]

Whats good?

[Vagrant]

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/omg.jpg

[H3TT1NG3R]

ahah biz! didnt know you were still alive. spread soe knowledge!, why doesnt my bitumen ink flow well thru a marker! :[
i took this semi liquid asphalt i boiught, and thinned it with xylene, added carbon powder and some stuff, but when i run it thru a marker it only comes thru liek a light brown?
are my pigments not fine enough?

[Vagrant]

anyways I made some shit I call plasti-ink
like five army men melted down
thin with acentone till its a good consitency
a bit of iodine gv and mb in crystal form
fuckass hard to get off and leaves a nice stain but I am trying to make it pop out a bit more
props to h3tt for the idea
H3TT's wisdom is of the most powerfull in the WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!yyyyyaaaaaaayyyyy

the usual source is plastic Solo cups

[rush2]

??????? not sure what those are but I bet you can use anything:)

[ReKoNe~!]

yea melting down army men to make ink is real smart u autistic fuck, and to make something that will be about as easy to buff as a magic marker

[rush2]

LMAO no its pretty hard to buff and leaves a nasty stain but whatever
no beef though
arguing on the internet serves absolutly no perpose LOL

[BizerkIZ]

ahah biz! didnt know you were still alive. spread soe knowledge!, why doesnt my bitumen ink flow well thru a marker! :[
i took this semi liquid asphalt i boiught, and thinned it with xylene, added carbon powder and some stuff, but when i run it thru a marker it only comes thru liek a light brown?
are my pigments not fine enough?

Hey dude, Your pigments are caught together, Its the carbon powder. How did you source the carbon pigment? Is it homemade or ink grade?

Try heating your remaining ink and mix in a stainer with a finer micron size.
Heat it for a long while at a low heat.

If you want the perfect thing to heat inks at that temperature.

Get one of these.

http://www.blueunplugged.com/xsdbimgs/USB-CUP-WARMER-DETAIL2.jpg

And you can make them hotter if you wanted by soldering a certain componant like i did.
Funfun.

Replace your nib too :)

[H3TT1NG3R]

i got the pigments from this art store, its just a tub of powdered carbon.

so your saying all i have to do it heat it for a while?

or is it bad pigments

[BizerkIZ]

I would still say bad pigments, there more likely made for arts and crafty shite.
The Micron size is to large.
But it wouldnt explain the colour. The liquid you bought is most likely kinda unsaturated.
What i think you should do is add another stainer and an adhesive agent. Preferably whilst heating but as you know heat makes Bitumen must easyer to deal with.
Alls well.

[H3TT1NG3R]

oh yeah. we the thing is, when i think the ashpalt, it comes out a lightish brown, which is why i add the carbon.
whats a good adhesive agent? ive never fucked with anything liek taht in my inks

[BizerkIZ]

You might wanna get a purer butumen. Thin it slightly and use it as a base.
I'll pm you with what you'd need.

[1Rsked]

okay. im for the colors and the longer it stays up the better.
ive been using grey or white rusto paint thinned with methyl hydrate and then a tube of oil paint to change the color, ive been reading about the pigments and stuff and im wondering if i would be better if i used the same color pigment in my mops?
any help

[HëRbN]

Have any of you guys (H3tt or Bizerk) lol Used Rub N Buff to make a metallic? i used some today at work and alittle bit goes a long ass ways and it can be thinned with paint thinner or many other solvent/thinners and comes in a ton of different metallic colors So i figured it would work well but was wondering if any one had tried it in the past

[H3TT1NG3R]

what is it?

[rush2]

okay. im for the colors and the longer it stays up the better.
ive been using grey or white rusto paint thinned with methyl hydrate and then a tube of oil paint to change the color, ive been reading about the pigments and stuff and im wondering if i would be better if i used the same color pigment in my mops?
any help

it woudnt mater at all

[Vagrant]

biz, whats the maximum diameter pigment size that can go through a marker?
i have an idea, but am sure it would only be able to be applied with a mop.

[H3TT1NG3R]

^yea i wanna know that too, i have no clue about sizes of pigments and whatnot, i only know taht metallics are smaller and work

[Vagrant]

it would be a good question to ask a nib supplier if you were going into the marker business, but i haven't even tested my idea yet.

[BizerkIZ]

Hey Vagrant. For a felt/Similar Material Nub. Particle Size: 40-45 Micron is the maximum, If you want a nice nice complete flow and every bit of complete colour. If you mix in larger pigments It'll have less Polydispersion.
For A Spondge Nib. It can go anything up to 120 Micron.

And HeRbn That stuff is wack. Its wax based and is similar to a coating polish in many ways... It may leave a slight stain. I mean the slightest, If you thin it with a harder thinner. BUT, It will still have a coat which would come right off.

BUT. If your into etching. Rub a small amount on a cloth and rub it over your etched tag. It'll make it stand out more.

FUCK IM RUSTY.

[MARTYRaz]

i used this gold leave shit and thinned it out...shits sweet..biz i got a pig recipe to run by ur greatness..ill pm if u want..

[BizerkIZ]

Hahahahahahaha your such a flatterer. Bring it dude :)

[MARTYRaz]

check the pm dizzle doggy

[BizerkIZ]

Done and done. Hope you enjoy man :)

Dude. Its just turned 6.
Sleep is a freind that doesn't come when i want it.

BIZERK IS A CUNT.

[springbreak95]

i think bizerk-iz harnesses all the knowledge

[BizerkIZ]

Hahahaha dude im flattered XD :) Your awesome man. Awesome Springbreak95.

[Vagrant]

Bizerk is the all-time ink God.
Everyone that has been in this thread in the last few months and don't know who he is...
you should be kissing his feet.

[fnt]

I remember seeing bizerk's posts a while ago. Welcome back! Thanks for spreading the knowlege.

What ever happened to rogue? I remember he used to post in the ink thread a while back.

Anyone tried making ink with gel pens? Think I'm going to

[BizerkIZ]

Whoa. Im like :O
Flat out

Honored.

And i have no room left in my sig.
Bugger.

I dont know about rogue. ever so often id get an email from him saying to come online but he never does though. Shame ;(

And gel pens are rubbish, just dont waste ingredients on them which you could with a better source. :)

Thanks Vagrant and Fnt. :)

[Jenkins.]

I cant find garvey and its making me want to commit homicides.

[Jenkins.]

(i cant order shit online either, no credit/debit)

[Vagrant]

then you won't be able to get it
grow up and get a debit card

try and trade with someone for it

[BizerkIZ]

Yeah i dont understand how someone can get a hold of a credit or even a debit card like that.. its not exactly like Nazi gold.

Im bored and not sleepy for 20 to 4.
Pah. INNSOOMMNIAAA..

[MARTYRaz]

hetts got garvey on deck always..

[H3TT1NG3R]

ahha hell yea. gotta have my garvey.

just trade for it or get it on traceypakcaging. u can proly email them and ask if u can send a money order

[wpgtags]

is this thread still legit?

[BizerkIZ]

Im on here. Its always Legit.

[H3TT1NG3R]

^helll yehhhhhh

[H3TT1NG3R]

what were you doing in the liek half year you left bs!?

[wpgtags]

hey hett, how do you make bitumen ink, cos i had a chance to get a bucket full of liquid tar at a construction site but i didnt know how to use it

[8732]

Anybody know if those spray inks are any good for tagging?

[H3TT1NG3R]

hey hett, how do you make bitumen ink, cos i had a chance to get a bucket full of liquid tar at a construction site but i didnt know how to use it

ooo yo grab that!
just grab some xylene, thin the tar down with xylene, and add other inks or carbon if its not opaque enough.

[wpgtags]

ooo yo grab that!
just grab some xylene, thin the tar down with xylene, and add other inks or carbon if its not opaque enough.

damn just thining thats easy, but i missed my chance, it was when a crew were repairing a road, it was there for about a week it was about 4 litres maybe more

[Vagrant]

save your pennies, then buy a 5 gallon bucket from the nearest big box home improvement store

[MARTYRaz]

or rack a tube of asphalt caulk..

[wpgtags]

is that pertaining to my posts? motherfucker

[H3TT1NG3R]

haha yea it is. if there is such thing(ive never seen it) then yea thad be a good source of asphalt. to make bitumen ink.

[wpgtags]

is bitumen ink any good?

[H3TT1NG3R]

yea, no fades, add ur own stainer

[wpgtags]

ill have to get on this shit sometime

[jizmobeel]

can you make an ink by melting plastic?

[jizmobeel]

or will the plastic dry to quick?

[dropt-one]

I'm pretty sure the plastic would solidify pretty quick

[rush2]

hell no thats my spesialty i just made a batch with a whole bunch of stock caps melted down thinned with acetone

[H3TT1NG3R]

^haha omg i hope ur wearing a resperator

[rush2]

my only resparator is the breeze haha
I got that idea from one of your posts LOL

[H3TT1NG3R]

hha yea, but the fumes from acetone AND the melting plastic has got to be killer.
but if ur doing it outside ur fine bro.
i work in my basement in the corner with no windows or anything

[rush2]

ahhhhhh man you got to be sick of fumes from the bitumen shit haha

[wpgtags]

that sounds good, get any colour, just grab some red legos or someshit

[slipyslipyslipymegeee]

Purple primer..... ...

[rush2]

Purple primer..... ...

???????????

[MARTYRaz]

haha yea it is. if there is such thing(ive never seen it) then yea thad be a good source of asphalt. to make bitumen ink.
go to lowes..down where thay keep all the diff caulks...there and the roofing department has it too..

[H3TT1NG3R]

yea? i might check it out sometime

anyone ever tried the pavement paint?
they have it at lowes its liek the same shit they use to makr parking spots ect

[MARTYRaz]

its latex based..lol..i work in the paint department at lowes..

[H3TT1NG3R]

ah damn it is?
thats a sick job though, how old do u hav to be to work there?

and how much are those lil 8oz cans of valspar?

[H3TT1NG3R]

the sample ones

[MARTYRaz]

18 to work the equipment..latex based also..but u can get ne color u want..

[H3TT1NG3R]

yea i usually use that for like canvas, its way cheaper than like the shit at art stores.

[springbreak95]

working at lowes is pretty rad night stocking owned drop cases of rusto out the loading dock while unloading the truck for the win

[H3TT1NG3R]

WHO wudve known!
Krink k-71 purple bleeds throguh and stains like BRIGHT ASS magenta. i love inks that bleed throguh/ stain a different color.

and i added liek 3 drops brake fluid and some benzophenone -so it shud be good ink now!

[neb3636]

What do you suggest to make your pen ink blacker? I tried using a little black speedball ink but it just made it buff waaaaaaay too easy. any other suggestions?

[springbreak95]

Fiebings Leather Dye add it love it

[neb3636]

Ok thanks where would they have that at like a walgreens or something? and does it make it more colorfast? becuase the pen ink fades a little to quick for me.

[springbreak95]

i was just wondering if any of y'all know if that higgens eternal ink is worth a piss? i dont care about the buff just if it holds it black in the sun

[springbreak95]

nah i get it at a shoe cobbler shop its cheap there though look around for one of those asian shoe repair shops they should have it and yeah it holds its color real good i use it in a mix 1/2 pen ink 1/2 fiebings works alright just shake the shit out of it i find that it is'nt that good in a pilot though

[neb3636]

One more thing has anyone tryed the Murder Death stainer powder in the BS store or know what it is or how good it is?

[H3TT1NG3R]

^ill send you a home stainer mix for less

[springbreak95]

just use ick away shit for fish tanks its got malachite green and free stains and bleed through blueish
http://www.novalek.com/kordon/malachite_green/images/malachite_green%20copy.jpg

[H3TT1NG3R]

meh u gotta evap it a ton, then ur left with like maybe 1/2 an ounce of actually good stainer

[neb3636]

How long you think it would take to evap. in the sun and does it smell like sh!t?

[PegCityBoy]

so iw as trying to make some ghetto d.e.d. but i only got feibings and pvc primer, its a little thinner than i wouldhave liked, someone told me that if i add a little paint it'll thinken it up will this work?

also i thought about adding tar to it anyone have advice on boiling down tar?

[neb3636]

Couldnt you just add more pvc primer? idk i might be wrong its just a guess

[H3TT1NG3R]

pvc primer is mostly just solvent...so no.
add some tar i guess

or just let it sit out/ boil it down a bit

[MARTYRaz]

its all solvent with a lil bit of dye..do wat hett says..

[PegCityBoy]

i just remembered i got about 1/3 of a bottle of witches brew that'd thicken it up a bit right?

[neb3636]

That malachite green, they have something just like that for fish too thats blue right? whats it called?

[cemo954]

givin a go at my first batch of actual ink, illadel is fading a little too much at times for my liking but other than that shit is sick, leaves nice ghosts

but I'm lookin at mixin up 120 black pens with 1 and 1/2 cup 91% alcohol, black pilot, black leather dye

anything else I can add to make it a solid fade proof ink, I'm sick of the purple turning to shit brown after a couple weeks on a metal box

also any one ever copped some of the bleed thru concentrate type stuff from any shops, kinda curious as to how it actually works.

[MARTYRaz]

trade the alc for acetone instead..

[fnt]

or xylene?

I was messing around with making pigmented ink with shellac, pigment, and denatured alc, anyone got any tips on other ingredients, techniques, etc.?

[springbreak95]

That malachite green, they have something just like that for fish too thats blue right? whats it called?
yeah the malachite green has a blueish tint to it but so does potassium permanganate which is also in stuff for fish tanks i think it cleans the water or something

[immoral]

It is an antibiotic of sorts for people as well.




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[Proper]

Serious?

[immoral]

It's Legit. Hit me up

[Proper]

I'm kind of excited. It's like Christmas Eve in late July!

[gcrolla]

http://4gifs.com/gallery/d/124103-1/Hydrofluoric_Acid_Burn.jpg

be careful with that good stuff..

[neb3636]

WHAT THE FU<K DID THAT?! etch?

[H3TT1NG3R]

^yea hydroflouric acid. but as u can see he was proly like sticking his hands in the damn stuff since he had a gloce on, and didnt know it had a hole

[fnt]

potassium permanganate leaves a brown stain. it's sold as like a water clearer for fish

[PegCityBoy]

i just remembered i got about 1/3 of a bottle of witches brew that'd thicken up my thin pen ink and ghetto d.e.d. a bit right?

bump

[springbreak95]

yes your witches brew will thicken it or just leave it uncovered in the sun for a bit that will thicken it up for sure if its to thick after that just think a tiny bit at a time

[ranlin1r]

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[springbreak95]

yes olympics bee

[drumnbass]

hey guys i thought id share,

picked up some grog ink - the pink one,

i shouldve known better but it is weak shit. it fades in the sun after like 4 days, weak weak weak.

i see everyone talking about different shit to put in inks but i dont really understand much of it or where to even get it.

any suggestions for something to put in the ink i have? i usually make paint mixes so im not to with it for ink. but i alreayd know better than to use brake fluid.

hopefully i dont get flammed to bad for this....

[neb3636]

Go into the inks and recipes sticky and there are a bunch of additives and what they do.

[Darko]

-80 papermate ballpoint pens
-1 cup of isoprophyl 90% alchol
- a cap of dot 3 brake fluid
k what if i have all the supplies, but i only have 20 pens...how much brake fluid nd alchohol do i use then?

[neb3636]

Just try to use as little alcohol as possible for the amount of pens you use and dont bother with the dot 3.

[joker954]

anyone know if the 0ink inks any good?

[neb3636]

I hear its really good but iv never actually have used it

[Darko]

Just try to use as little alcohol as possible for the amount of pens you use and dont bother with the dot 3.

well, wouldn't that make like hardly any ink? would it help any if i used a sharpie or two?

[neb3636]

No dont use sharpie. It will make your ink stronger to use less alcohol becuase it will be more concentrated. If its too thick to flow just add alittle alcohol to it. Trust me its alot easier to make it thinner than thicker so just go with as little alcohol as possible and dont use dot 3 or sharpie.

[Darko]

No dont use sharpie. It will make your ink stronger to use less alcohol becuase it will be more concentrated. If its too thick to flow just add alittle alcohol to it. Trust me its alot easier to make it thinner than thicker so just go with as little alcohol as possible and dont use dot 3 or sharpie.

lol ok...i remember the toy days when i used a sharpie and like 3 cups of 70% alcohol and nail polish remover...

...what a disaster

[neb3636]

Haha ya after you try a few things out you get a pretty solid recipe. Pen ink does fade fairly quickly so you might want to find an additive to make it more colorfast. (fade resistant)

[Darko]

Haha ya after you try a few things out you get a pretty solid recipe. Pen ink does fade fairly quickly so you might want to find an additive to make it more colorfast. (fade resistant)

all alchohol based inks eventually fade in sunlight...but what do you suggest as a additive?

[neb3636]

I was told by springbreak95 to use potassium permanganate or malachite green both used in fish tanks. I would also advise you to look in the Ink recipe sticky and look at the additives section just for other ideas and to figure out what different things do.

[MARTYRaz]

this whole page is full of wrong info..
http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/28/jesus_agrees_gtfo.gif (http://www.threadbombing.com/details.php?image_id=2712)
potasium permagranate and malichite green r stainers..not for lightfastness..for light fastness use an other alc based in like pilot or marsh and just dump it in the mix..pen ink its kinda not worth making unless u have the supplies need to make it descent..

[neb3636]

The one part about potasium permagranate and malichite green i said thats what i was told by someone else and thats hardly the whole page. So what else is wrong?

[wiserism]

anyone know if the 0ink inks any good?
best ink yu cn buy str8 up...drips to the floor or no drips at all depends on the squeeze n stains awesomely...has everything yur looking for in a good staining mop...O I N K ink nd junobo rock my werld

^.^

[immoral]

agreed, Oi nk ink is some of the best.

Just talked to James too, I will be ordering a shit tons of empty mops from him in order to directly sell you Mint G in a great quality marker.

also, for those of you who are getting a free test sample of Velvet Pink, I hope to be able to send those to you in either an eight ounce bottle or a Ready-to-hit-the-street mop!

[neb3636]

Now will you be selling all the inks yourself or do you already have plans to sell it to stores?

[MARTYRaz]

The one part about potasium permagranate and malichite green i said thats what i was told by someone else and thats hardly the whole page. So what else is wrong?
ur part about dot 3..its perfectly fine to use if u do it correctly..its for ur hard staining mix..if u want to leave a lasting mark use this recipe..its pen ink btw..
120 black pens..
10 blue pens..(blue stains the hardest rite off the bat)
1 1/4 cup pvc primer..
dried gentian violet..(ur gna have to bust out the pots and pans for that)
garvey..
and 1 cap DOT 3

[neb3636]

its perfectly fine to use if u do it correctly

The person seemed like it was thier first time making ink so the first time you do it you shouldnt worry about adding all these other things becuase you have a better chance of messing up. Im not srating a fight i was just trying to help some one.

[MARTYRaz]

no body fighting..try that recipe..dope shit..

[neb3636]

I already have a recipe to use i was trying to help that guy with his

[immoral]

Now will you be selling all the inks yourself or do you already have plans to sell it to stores?

We have a few things lined up, and we're already selling here in the South USA!

[neb3636]

Whereabouts im from florida

[MARTYRaz]

u still takin handys immoral??or am i too late..

[immoral]

The three selections for handies have already been made, brother, I am sorry but our lines are hitting the streets soon and you can even order through me. The only colors I have right now are Menthol green and Velvet pink! We hope to have the 6 other colors in soon!

And Neb, we are farther east but gladly ship all over the USA!

[immoral]

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee46/sublime_terrorist/IMG_2676.jpg


Velvet pink, the New Crack. ;)

[springbreak95]

just use ick away shit for fish tanks its got malachite green and free stains and bleed through blueish

[Werse]

Anyone try lighter fluid as a solvent?

[immoral]

In the event of a cleanup being needed, Alchohol will work just fine. Rubbing alchohol that is. The higher the percentage, the better. So yes, Lighter fluid would be a good alternative inthe event of it being needed.

[Werse]

So I could use it in ink?

[SAID]

Whats the best to beat acetone buff?

[immoral]

So I could use it in ink?

I suppose you could, but I wouldnt suggest storing it near skin or letting it get on clothing. It'd eat up clothing.

Try a little bit of it in pen ink recipes.

SAID, tar based inks

[Delse]

i dont know shit about ink...but what ive done in the past was rack bottles of air brush paint and pour the shit in a mop with 1/2 alcahol...shake the ho up

[neb3636]

Delse you ever use the liquitex basics line?

[ILikeBombing]

obviously you're still learning because dot-3 is corrosive to paint and leaves a ghost when applied. and this thread was fine without your posts about how your shit dont stink, if you dont have anything positive to say [other than your own positive remarks about yourself and the writers you cock ride being better than everyone else] then shut the hell up.

qouted this from grasscity, they have a graff thread and all these people are arguing and shit, but this one guy says Dot3 is corrosive to paint, and apparently makes it stain... dont really want to add on to the bitchin thats already goin on but i always thought dot3 just made ink drying time slow down, resulting in more drips and what not..

[H3TT1NG3R]

immoral I'm sorry to say ur wrong... Lighter fluid has no alcohol in it. But it is good for thinning oil based inks like bitumen ink n gk. And there's not much to beat acetone buff. But try just really hard staining inks or like acrylic might be good.

[Delse]

Delse you ever use the liquitex basics line?

mmm nah..the shit i snag a michaels is called.."createx airbrush colors"

[immoral]

immoral I'm sorry to say ur wrong... Lighter fluid has no alcohol in it. But it is good for thinning oil based inks like bitumen ink n gk. And there's not much to beat acetone buff. But try just really hard staining inks or like acrylic might be good.



Hey man, now I know. Im glad I was set right because I wasn't too sure myself. :)

[H3TT1NG3R]

haha no worries

[BizerkIZ]

I suppose you could, but I wouldnt suggest storing it near skin or letting it get on clothing. It'd eat up clothing.

Try a little bit of it in pen ink recipes.

SAID, tar based inks

Pen ink doesn't work with napha, the binding agent in the pen in is designed to make it mix with other bases.......
Bitumen will work...
Or use it in thicker wood stains....
But lighter fluid evapourated a tad too quickly.
Tuh.....

[neb3636]

Hey bizerkiz in your streak recipe what does the white out do?

[BizerkIZ]

Its mostly for drying perpouses. And theres usually a small amount of Trichloroethane in Streaks..
Kinda wrong thread.. but its on the painty side. So its ok.

[Eugor]

Whoa. Im like :O
Flat out

Honored.

And i have no room left in my sig.
Bugger.

I dont know about rogue. ever so often id get an email from him saying to come online but he never does though. Shame ;(

And gel pens are rubbish, just dont waste ingredients on them which you could with a better source. :)

Thanks Vagrant and Fnt. :)


You mentioned my name?

[Scratch]

Its mostly for drying perpouses. And theres usually a small amount of Trichloroethane in Streaks..
Kinda wrong thread.. but its on the painty side. So its ok.

Bizerk, you spelled 'purposes' wrong, but you managed to spell the word 'trichloroethane'? i dont even know what that means hahaha.

regardless, props for the crazy ink knowledge

[H3TT1NG3R]

You mentioned my name?

!!!

[BizerkIZ]

You mentioned my name?

No I didn't.. What the fuck.


And Scratch yeah... I was half stoned.. I just was like... ehhh.... thats near enough...
Perposes... Type-o =[
But thanks none the less :P

[neb3636]

Hey Bizerkiz why do you never respond to my PM's?

[H3TT1NG3R]

eugor=rogue backwards

[wpgtags]

oh shit hett your fucking sherlock holmes

[H3TT1NG3R]

hha fuck off clearly biz didnt notice

[BizerkIZ]

I noticed ;)
Everyone pray he will be merciful to our daughters.. You can lock them up all you like... But he will get in.

[immoral]

Proper and Garbagedowntheway, your Mint G samples are shipping out this coming week.

[Queezy]

My ink formula of Zealous Black Bliss is gonna be vicious, it's going to be bottled in 4 oz gonna be available in about 2 weeks for cheaper than the rest of the 4 oz staining ink competition while still holding high quality.
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q68/JuicinIt/BottleLabel.jpg
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q68/JuicinIt/BottleLabel2.jpg
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q68/JuicinIt/BottleLabel4.jpg

[H3TT1NG3R]

haha i like the label

[Queezy]

Gonna be in a pharmacy near you very soon haha.

I'll have buff pictures and other stuff when it's completely done.

[H3TT1NG3R]

alright. what colors is it? and is it mlostly pigmented or mostly dyes?

[Queezy]

Only black for about a month, and it's dye based. No pigment, Gloss finish, Will not fade, Bleed's through paint. Next color that's coming is either red or green with the same properties as black.

[massacreman]

queezy could you please try to let graff-city dot com sell it?

[immoral]

Im excited for the new Zealous inks.

Mint G has already released here in the south.
Two colors left in stock right now, Velvet Pink and Menthol Green

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee46/sublime_terrorist/IMG_3206.jpg

[massacreman]

do you have more flix?

[immoral]

We will soon. My Laptop screen is crapping out so putting graffiti flicks online while I endulge in shit tea at starbucks is hard, lol.

Im getting wireless at the house soon. So, flicks coming in less than a week.

[MARTYRaz]

friends dnt let friends drink starbucks..

go to dunkin donuts..

[immoral]

Mops up for sale, Velvet pink and Menthol green tonight. 7$ plus shipping
Eight ounce bottles will go out tomorrow for 10$ a piece

As with anything, shipping varies with weight.
Soon we'll sell the mops with a Mohair nib included

[H3TT1NG3R]

^u should downsize ur prices. thats a shit deal for some gk ish paint in a 25 cent OT mop