The Ink Discussion Thread

[Enmity]

READ Recipies/INKS before posting!!!!!!


INK THREAD..

OK ..
from the late imported newz

1.)NO random chit chat off topic."what do you write?","Where you from?","Oh word?GeSuS is wayy dope!".Shit like that is not on topic.Thats why you clicked this topic right?To get answers,ask questions,Being informed.

2.)NO flamming.No matter how dumb the question is.Flame=Beef=Not on topic.If you have beef,squash it with a battle.PM mysfyt,BAZE OR any battle mod for a private battle to end your beef.

3.)NO post about markers,inventory,caps,cans,etc.They all have their own topics.Go there for you questions.
Example:"That marker sucks.Go buy a new one"or"Where'd you get that marker from?"is not allowed.
If you want to ask,ask by a PM or something.AIM,MSN,etc.

Anyone caught disobeying the rules will receive an automatic warn NO questions or excuses...REPEATED OFFENDERS WILL RECEIVE BANS ..
NO WARNINGS .


GENERAL INK TALK .. NOTHING ELSE..

IF YOU HAVE ANY GOOD INFO and would like to submit it. please send it to a MOD and IT WILL BE SAVED INTO THE
INK AND RECIPE
THREAD
ANYTHING ELSE IS ANSWERING QUESTIONS AND TALKING ABOUT INKS ..

[sir.one]

how do i refill a kiwi mop?

[Enmity]

.. and so it begins .

[moltov]

the other day i made ink from

-80 papermate ballpoint pens
-1 cup of isoprophyl 90% alchol
- a cap of dot 3 brake fluid

the ink turned out SO BUTTER!
its thick, darkdark blue, and it is SO hard to buff!
the drips are nice and raunchy

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p227/moltov_bomber/DSC01049.jpg

the color of the blue
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p227/moltov_bomber/DSC01058.jpg

closer look at te drips
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p227/moltov_bomber/DSC01050.jpg

[ViaHipHop]

woa i just lost like half my post's whyd you delete the old thread everyone was gonna look through it and find a bunch of good+old shit

[bomb in daylight]

anyone ever put black shoe polish in a bingo dabber?
drips are madd dope lol

[anti-anti-crime]

i guerantee that this thread will go to hell within a month.

and i guess were not even going to bother with looking through the ink thread?this will b the new ink thread?

[Darkeist]

shoe polish comes off with water.


and why was the other thread deleted, this one is gonna turn out just like it. And we'll have bajillions of little nubs coming in here "lol wutz da most supr dupr staining ink tht i can use 2 dstry mi citi lyk trane?" and "lyk, wuts getto krink????? how do i makez it agin?"

[thesilentvandal]

how do i open a marker, it tryied to pour ink by the nib but got all the ink on my floor, so then i washed my marker with water but now the nib wont work:S it was an on the run!



anyways, why did the other thread get deleted?

[anti-anti-crime]

anyone ever put black shoe polish in a bingo dabber?
drips are madd dope lolseriously, lets actually TRY to make an effort to keep this thread clean. posts like that give toys the idea that its ok to post in random bullshit. and will a mod put on the first page a frquently asked question thing. like, answers to "how do i refill a kiwi mop?" shit like that. and anytime somebody posts up some random ass question like that, we gotta inform a mod so they can delete that post. please, we have to keep this thread clean for the REAL ink heads

["Joker"]

Rogue, sintak, get this bitch started!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sintakz]

I am actually going to boycott this thread. I was hoping to look back at the hidden gems hidden in the old Ink Directory thread but it was locked and then deleted hence I will no longer be answering questions pertaining to ink, paint, or w/e. I also will probably never even look in this thread for I give it a week before it goes to hell. I tried my damned hardest to keep the old ink directory alive and I get repaid by it, and my hard work, getting deleted. Phuck this ink thread I hope it goes down the drain soon.



PEACE OUT BITCHES!

[thesilentvandal]

hahah ya im out too peace, fuck this thread its shit

[xHWKxsTuDr808]

whats the best ink to put in a big squeez/kiwi mop cus i want silver but i used the montana liquid paint and it ate up the nib so i poured grog ink in and it ate it up to. so im very puzzled

[Vagrant]

I was disappointed when I signed onto BS today and found the Ink INKS!! Thread gone. I think it should have been locked and left for a week so any useful information could have been saved from old posts.

I am not pissed off that a new ink thread was created. This is a fresh start. Granted whatever informative posts that were in the old thread have been deleted, but so have all the crap talk and toy question posts.

Toys will ALWAYS be coming in and asking simple questions, stupid questions, and talking about off topic stuff. The only way to completely avoid and stop this is to prohibit new members from registering to the entire site, eventually all the toys will learn the answers to their simple stupid questions and no longer ask them.

For the record, no matter how annoying it is, when a toy comes in and asks "how do I make India Ink stain hard?" this IS on topic and technically IS a relevant question. Yes it will get asked over and over. The only thing we can do is get information about india ink added to the recipe thread, and simultaneously answer their question or point them to the answer in the ink recipe thread.

The problem isn't with toys asking stupid questions (because they always will), its with how the rest of the community reacts to it. I.E. complaining about it, not doing anything about it, not trying to stop it.

Boycotting this new Ink Discussion Thread will only GUARANTEE its failure.

Posting good information in hopes of improving the recipe thread, creating inks and posting their recipe with an action shot, answering questions if you can, discussing current inks, and brainstorming/theorizing about possible new inks at least has THE POSSIBILITY of making this new, fresh thread a success. Or at least better than the old thread.

</rant>

[acereborn]

First of all, if its a new nib it will soak up lots of ink, so put some more in. Secondly, check the other thread; it has lots of ways to make good ink/ paint.

[Sintakz]

Sigh.... some of you people better be happy that I like you.... Ok I'm back because I've received a few pm's from different people telling me I should come back so here I am. I'm gonna give it my all to keep this thread on topic, report stupid ass/repeated posts to mods and answer questions to the best of my knowledge. SO, here it goes, the NEW ink thread... lemme fix my siggy...

[sir.one]

fuck.

[Sintakz]

lol Sir was hoping the topic would phail. We all love you too sir. So, I think we should start moving away from oil based paints. I recently was repainting my pool and had some left over paint (it is rubber based and fucking rocks) so I decided to do a quick rollie on my shed just to see how it looks. Shit is kick ass, dries rather fast, and is built to stand up to mad pressure and water/weather. It's been about a 3 months since I did the rollie and it still looks brand new. Only thing to do now is to see if paint thinner thins out rubber based paint.

[xHWKxsTuDr808]

sick

[Darkeist]

Do they have rubber based paint in the same sick colors as oil based?

[Sintakz]

I honestly haven't really looked around for rubber based paints. I got mine obviously at the pool store so they had typical pool colours and jacked up the price because they called it a "specialty" paint. I'll run a google right now :)



Edit:

Seems like they have a special thinner just for rubber based paints as I thought they would.

http://www.lesliespool.com/browse/Home/Pool-Deck-Repair/Deck-Protectors/Paint-Thinner-Rubber-Based-1-Gallon/D/30100/P/1:100:17000:1700020/I/26727

here is a colour chart for some rubber based paint. It is obvious that the colours are kinda limited.
http://www.brockent.com/images/3014.jpg

Seems like the only place to buy it is at pool stores so it seems like this idea went down the drain as most of the 1 gallon things of paint are in the 50+ range..... yea..... a bit much for my budget haha. And it'd be kinda hard to rack it. here's a site to buy in case money is no object to you.

http://www.brockent.com/CategoryView.asp?CategoryId=392

["Joker"]

This is how I see KR making his krink. I've found that when alcohol and oil paint is put through a sponge they somewhat combine together. Weird, huh? I found out by putting GK and alcohol-based ink in a mop. *ShakeHard* Then juice the sponge nib and I squeezed the rest of the ink out and it mixed together. No one tell me I'm lieing, I saw what I saw and I'm telling the truth. Then I let it sit for awhile and it didn't separate. Can someone tell me WHY?

[anti-anti-crime]

50 bucks a gallon is just fuckin stupid to pay. but do u have flix of how the shed looks? isthe side u did normally out in the sun?

[Sintakz]

I'll get some flicks up tomorrow. I painted over parts of it but w/e And yea it gets most of the sun during the day.

[mosezone]

i know junobo eventually like peels off of whatever you put it on. but if you mix oil paint and some oil-based rusto bucket paint together, that won't peel, will it?

[Sintakz]

no... oil + oil = oil haha. Junobo peels due to it being either acrylic based (i'm pretty sure it's acrylic based) or latex based which all comes down to one thing, water based. Oil based is the shit they paint wood with, that shit won't come off anytime soon.

[Darkeist]

If i got some oil based bucket paint in like a mountan dew green, i cant find it in metallic. if i put pearl ex in there would that make it metallicy?

[Sintakz]

yes

[mosezone]

alright, thanks. and darkeist, where the hell did you get mountain dew green bucket paint?

[Blitz411]

Yo, I got a question. I just racked this kiwi mop today, dumped out all the shit and replace it with some ink. Now, the first batch I made I put rubbing alcohol, and blue acrylic paint. Did the same with this recipe, except I thought since I'd be making more and adding more paint, I'd need more alcohol. So added it and everything, it turned out shitty as fuck. SO, this really, really, toy dude at my school has the big pilot jumbo marker and I was wondering how that ink would work in my kiwi mop. So, how would it work?

["Joker"]

This is how I see KR making his krink. I've found that when alcohol and oil paint is put through a sponge they somewhat combine together. Weird, huh? I found out by putting GK and alcohol-based ink in a mop. *ShakeHard* Then juice the sponge nib and I squeezed the rest of the ink out and it mixed together. No one tell me I'm lieing, I saw what I saw and I'm telling the truth. Then I let it sit for awhile and it didn't separate. Can someone tell me WHY?
Is anyone going to answer my question????

[Sintakz]

Yo, I got a question. I just racked this kiwi mop today, dumped out all the shit and replace it with some ink. Now, the first batch I made I put rubbing alcohol, and blue acrylic paint. Did the same with this recipe, except I thought since I'd be making more and adding more paint, I'd need more alcohol. So added it and everything, it turned out shitty as fuck. SO, this really, really, toy dude at my school has the big pilot jumbo marker and I was wondering how that ink would work in my kiwi mop. So, how would it work?

I don't want to call you an idiot or call you a bigger toy than the "toy" at your school but...... sorry, I'll refrain from saying that. Alcohol+paint= don't work. Next time either thin the paint with water or add some pens to that alcohol. As for Joker, its the same concept as the self outlining ink. It'll seperate just give it some time. I pretty much see it as a waste of time to mix perfectly good ink with some paint but w/e, that's on you. That is, unless you are working on the same thing that me and vagrant were talking about. :)

[Jet]

fuck this thread.

I miss combing Treo's old posts.

[Blitz411]

So...will pilot ink work in a kiwi mop?

["Joker"]

This is how I see KR making his krink. I've found that when alcohol and oil paint is put through a sponge they somewhat combine together. Weird, huh? I found out by putting GK and alcohol-based ink in a mop. *ShakeHard* Then juice the sponge nib and I squeezed the rest of the ink out and it mixed together. No one tell me I'm lieing, I saw what I saw and I'm telling the truth. Then I let it sit for awhile and it didn't separate. Can someone tell me WHY?


I don't want to call you an idiot or call you a bigger toy than the "toy" at your school but...... sorry, I'll refrain from saying that. Alcohol+paint= don't work. Next time either thin the paint with water or add some pens to that alcohol. As for Joker, its the same concept as the self outlining ink. It'll seperate just give it some time. I pretty much see it as a waste of time to mix perfectly good ink with some paint but w/e, that's on you. That is, unless you are working on the same thing that me and vagrant were talking about. :)

Im some what working on a recipe something like krink but not fully, a paint that can stain. I know, I know that paint dosn't stain but I want it to. Personally I hate valve flow makers and love mops, free flows, stuff like that. and sintak, I am a toy but I experiment as much as possible, been written for 5 years now so. I'm defiantly not a ink god or some shit for sher but I am just trying to understand ink alot better. Most of the time I am just phucking around sooooo.....Can't really blame me. I defiantly admire all the people that have contributed too this forum and all ink treads.

[Sintakz]

lol @ ekim. Sorry but gonna have to report that post.... I'm gonna be mini mod in this bitch haha. Anyway, I wasn't trying to single you out or anything, i'm just a bit testy. Shit we all started somewhere right? No beef.

[ekimboi1]

wait so ur gonna snitch on me? wat a little bitch!

[Blitz411]

FUCK YOU!!!!
Fuck me? Fuck you dick head! I'm just asking a question. Damn, someone needs a new tampon...

[Sintakz]

One of the first rules was to keep it on topic and that's pretty much what I'm gonna do. Fuck it if I piss some people off or step on some people's toes. I'd clean up the thread as it grew myself if I could but I can't so I'm just gonna have to report posts and hope that they are seen to.

Since the old thread got removed, there was so talk about Iron Oxide III (Rust), what's the deal with that?



Edit: Blitz people either edit or delete your post. Don't bother cluttering the thread with beef. If you wanna settle some beef battle or at least take it to fucking pm's

[Blitz411]

Ah, sorry dude. So, what is the deal with iron oxide? Like, what is it?

[ekimboi1]

Fuck me? Fuck you dick head! I'm just asking a question. Damn, someone needs a new tampon...

hahaha silly toy, but check yourself and use some common sense!"will pilot ink work in a kiwi?".....

@sintakz, my fault im mad at Bitch411!

honestly i have no idea about iron oxide rust shit, wats it do, rust ur name into metal or sum shit>?

[Blitz411]

Ha, thats clever. How old are you, 10?

[Sintakz]

From what I can remember it gets the rust process started and will eventually rust the metal. But for the time being it gives your ink that rusty colour. Pretty cool if I remember correctly.

And yes, pretty much anything that works in a marker will work in a mop.

[Blitz411]

THANK YOU!!! God, at least someone's helpful.

[ekimboi1]

that rust stuff sounds dope as hell, how would get ur hands on some, make it?
blitz, ur dont write anyway so y u worried bout it?

[sir.one]

your all toys.

[ekimboi1]

yup.

[Sintakz]

I make large quantities of rust at any given time for my thermite addiction.


Edit: Wow... just noticed how many posts I had in the fucking ink thread haha.

[Blitz411]

I think you can get that at like, a science store or something. Just try looking there.

[ekimboi1]

wait, whaT?
@SINTAKZ

[Sintakz]

Rust is a major component in thermite. If you wanna know how to make some rust just drop me a pm

[ekimboi1]

wait, did u say ur addicted to thermite? i thought that the shit that like sparks up and stuff when lit?

[sir.one]

the fun off it.

[Sintakz]

Yea, I'm a pyromaniac. Addiction :). Anyway, clear nail polish... anyone used it in ink before?

[anti-anti-crime]

lol @ ekim. Sorry but gonna have to report that post.... I'm gonna be mini mod in this bitch haha. Anyway, I wasn't trying to single you out or anything, i'm just a bit testy. Shit we all started somewhere right? No beef.your not going to be the ONLY mini mod in here! duh duh duuuhhhhhhh
and to answer your question, no, but it smells like pentel whites, doesnt it? ive got 2 and whenever i open them my mom would smell it in the hallway and ask if im using nail polish hahaha

[C-money fresh!]

wtf is this thread i miss the old one what happened

[SAID]

they shoulda left the old thread.
oh and sintakz,
you should honestly be a moderator.

[Sintakz]

I'm glad someone see's that :)

[SAID]

in every single thread, while everyones hating on each other, you just keep helping people out.
go for moderator.

[sir.one]

:) no dice.

[Olick]

if the mods moderate this thread 100% of the time it would work out.

1. they delete all useless post "including this one"
2. thats about it

im bored. toys will keepin comin and askin dumb questions. deleting the old thread doesnt fix it. so yah.

mods have a fresh start.

[acereborn]

Yea, I'm a pyromaniac. Addiction :). Anyway, clear nail polish... anyone used it in ink before?

Yeah, I just used some in my silver ink, I'd really try to not use too much, it's pretty strong.

P.S. Seriously people, try to keep this thread clean.

[Olick]

I'm glad someone see's that :)

its because you have no life <3 :D lol jp

my guess is nail polish would be a ghetto polyurethene but itll easily come off with alcohol "last time i check alcohol cleans nail shit right?"




is it just me or does this thread feel just like the old one

[Vagrant]

Sintakz you have gained an enormous amount of respect from me for coming back and donning the mindset you have.
I <3 you.

I will try my best to answer any questions I can, and also mini-moderate this thread. Sintakz is on a lot more often that I though - at least during high traffic hours - so he will obviously get more questions answered

Discussion on Nail Polish.
Nail Polish is alcohol based, and generally alright, but its sort of like paint and just sits on the surface. Yes alcohol will buff it. Thinning it with acetone (nail polish remover) and maybe adding DOT3 might do some good. It will definitely give you more volume if you thin it out. Plus is you can easily steal nail polish, but you'll need a few bottles to fill a marker.

Discussion on Metallic Mountain Dew Green Paint.
Depending on how much paint you want to have in the end, you will need a lot of Pearl Ex. No big deal if you rack it.

Saying this thread feels like the old one doesn't help.

[bOxcaR]

this thread has alrdy gone to shit
closeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[Rogue]

Hey, you, yes you.

Shut the fuck up.

[JadedSketches]

Alright, new thread, kinda sucks that the old had to be deleted, probably had some great stuff in there, oh well.

Ok, I was thinking, if I was going to make say, a turquoise ink, what could I add to blue ink? I have inks made from ballpoints and from methylene crystals as well as dyes, and they're all fairly dark blue. I'd like to get a lighter shade of blue without only thinning it, and remember this isn't a paint/thinner mixture, it's ink.

[AEROSOL_FEEN]

what can i add to my black ded to make it more opaque?

[JadedSketches]

outdoorsman or inside job

[AEROSOL_FEEN]

outdoorsman

[JadedSketches]

I think you can use grog but I'm not positive, I've only used ded a handful of times.

[Sintakz]

in every single thread, while everyones hating on each other, you just keep helping people out.
go for moderator.

I've tried but my graff skills are not up to par.... yea it sucks that someone people think should be a mod can't be a mod because he isn't one of the "big boys". Besides, it has to be a unanimous decision between the mods to see if someone can join the ranks. I'm pretty sure sir being the asshole he is (lol no beef I just see you as the 'asshole mod', i make up different personalities for the different mods. Enmity is the 'absent mod'.) would say no just to say no.

[AEROSOL_FEEN]

I think you can use grog but I'm not positive, I've only used ded a handful of times.
im not a fan of mixing ink with ink..
i have bad experiences where ive fucked up the portions and the ink came out too thick or too corrosive

[sir.one]

im the nicest one, in the picture thread. nothing needs to be moderated here.

[harry]

haha sir thanks hes nice... any wayy this sucks i want the old thread backkk but i know thatsnot gonna happen so ill make the most out of this thread and keep it clean

anyyy way as i last said before the old thread was deleted i just ordered a bottle of junobo theres no way i can thin it and put it in a marker is there cause i have some otr ands molotow paint markers and there all nearly empty so i was either gonna by new nibs for them and ckean out the pumps and shit and put ink in them orr try and thin junobo for them olick told me it would suck but i want some other opinions aswell...delete this if you think its a tot question i dont care

[Sintakz]

Sintakz you have gained an enormous amount of respect from me for coming back and donning the mindset you have.
I <3 you.

I will try my best to answer any questions I can, and also mini-moderate this thread. Sintakz is on a lot more often that I though - at least during high traffic hours - so he will obviously get more questions answered

Discussion on Nail Polish.
Nail Polish is alcohol based, and generally alright, but its sort of like paint and just sits on the surface. Yes alcohol will buff it. Thinning it with acetone (nail polish remover) and maybe adding DOT3 might do some good. It will definitely give you more volume if you thin it out. Plus is you can easily steal nail polish, but you'll need a few bottles to fill a marker.

Discussion on Metallic Mountain Dew Green Paint.
Depending on how much paint you want to have in the end, you will need a lot of Pearl Ex. No big deal if you rack it.

Saying this thread feels like the old one doesn't help.

Yea I've got easy access to a BUNCH of nail polish so I guess I'll just go racking tomorrow (today now) or something.

[harry]

you dident answer my question bitch haha joke but please do give me an answer

[Sintakz]

sorry I must've been posting while you had already posted or w/e idk. Yea it's gonna suck bro, junobo streaks like a bitch even in a freeflowing mop so imagine if you had to keep juicing the nib up with a marker. STAY AWAY lol. Well... .unless you LIKE streaky tags.....

[Buhda420]

haha nice to see me being kwoted sintaks
yer spelt it that way
yes the old thread had so much gold in it
but her i have only the whole thing once or twice i likes to know my shizznizzle
and my facts
and this thread give it a chance i liked the old thread though so much history
ahhh
well its gone hahaha
so stop bitchin and put your recipes up


50ml raven oil
100ml methelated spirits
25g or carbon dust
50 pen ink sticks
a pinch of metheleyne blue
a sprits of iodine
and a dash of your favourite store bought ink

and you have a potent recipe buckroo

[harry]

are you sure metho will mix in propery?

[Buhda420]

i am definate
i mix all my inks with metho
its basically pure alchohol
so evapourates easy
i usually start with metho then add pen ink raven oil ect.. ect..

[harry]

fuck thats a mad easy base thanks


haha oh and sintaks i just loooooooooooooove those streaky tags hahaha i kid i kid i might try and cancel that order for junobo and get another bottle of garvey instead

[Mime1]

My first post here may aswell be to help all of you guys. Been lurking for a while and watched the old ink thread alot. If you still want to see it use this link,
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&pwst=1&q=+site:www.bombingscience.com+bombing+science+ink +directory
Search through the cached links and find some good recipes before its gone.

[acereborn]

Sweet, your first post was helpful :)

I'll be on there for a while

[Just Another]

Except none of the links work so you just have to read the description...

And on topic... Can you use denatured alcohol for pen ink?

[Jet]

dentured is the best alcohol you can get for pen ink. it's 99.99% alcohol

[djsupreeme]

Except none of the links work so you just have to read the description...
just press the link that says 'Cached'

[OSKAR]

Anyone have any idea as to what decent mop wont get eaten to fuck by mr silver ink or any other decent brands of silver ink that wont do that?

[Enmity]

quit bitching about the old thread..
.. none of you read through the old pages.. because the old pages were identical to the newer pages. it was the same shit the same questions

vagrant said it best

" Posting good information in hopes of improving the recipe thread, creating inks and posting their recipe with an action shot, answering questions if you can, discussing current inks, and brainstorming/theorizing about possible new inks at least has THE POSSIBILITY of making this new, fresh thread a success. Or at least better than the old thread."

its just a refresh of information ..

now 750 posts deep the same mo fuckers who want better for the forum .. are just blabbering and bitching and posting just for the sake of their opinion .. you dont have to chat in here 24/7 if you got info post it .. if you dont then go talk in the general discussion thread. go ahead and make a thread in there ..YOU CAN !! ..
try to keep this
question and answer and just for recepies.. 720 posts so far and like 5 or 6 actual recipes ... the rest is the wieners who ran the old thread into the dirt..

now im gonna go drink my coffee .

have a good day to all. go write on something .. outside of your backyard .

[Enmity]

Anyone have any idea as to what decent mop wont get eaten to fuck by mr silver ink or any other decent brands of silver ink that wont do that?


yea

****artltd.com

or go to a party supply store or a crafts store and look for window chalk markers . or bingo daubers .. other decent brands of silver ink are made by.. krink and grog.. then again you can always make your own paint version .. using the GK recipe in the ink/recipe sticky ..

[OSKAR]

cheers mang

[Just Another]

just press the link that says 'Cached'

Thanks man...

And thanks Jet...

[Vagrant]

dentured is the best alcohol you can get for pen ink. it's 99.99% alcohol

Wrong.
Denatured Alcohol is traditionally 90% Ethanol (pure alcohol) and 10% Methanol

You can use denatured or the more common Isopropyl Alcohol for your pen ink recipes. Isopropyl Alcohol is very very similar, and you should be able to find it in smaller quantities in drug stores, grocery stores, etc. Whereas Denatured is found in quart sized cans at hardware stores.

[Rogue]

I know I or somone else has said them all before, but just to bump the info

GK Additives

Hydrochloric Acid (Found in Home Depot/Lowes in the outdoor section)
Japan Drier or Ether (Found at any art store or Home Depot/Lowes)
Paint Hardener or Poly (Same as above)
Linseed Oil (Art Stores)
Butimen (Kind of hard to find, I've seen it at Home Depot before, just look around)

Just a few to help people that want better GK.

[ViaHipHop]

can we have a recap on what those do exactlty
Linseed Oil makes it dry faster and harden right?

[Vagrant]

Linseed Oil is a vehicle for suspending pigment.
Japan Drier would make it dry faster and harden
Paint hardeners or polyurethane would make it harden

[ViaHipHop]

im was more aiming towards whats Hydrochloric Acid and Butimen(think he ment bitumen) do

[Vagrant]

then why didn't you ask that? wow.

"I want to know what hydrochloric acid and bitumen do when added to GK so I'll ask about linseed oil, that will get me the answer I want"

i dont really know the uses for these. the acid might have an etch effect? bitumen make the GK waterproof? im not sure

[ViaHipHop]

then why didn't you ask that? wow.

"I want to know what hydrochloric acid and bitumen do when added to GK so I'll ask about linseed oil, that will get me the answer I want"

i dont really know the uses for these. the acid might have an etch effect? bitumen make the GK waterproof? im not sure

well nah hah i kinda understood linseed oil so i was asking if i was right but i wanted to know what they all did just more interested in the acid and bitumen because i searched them up and i couldnt realy link it to paint

[Vagrant]

plus i gave the uses for the other 3 additives, and not the acid or bitumen, so you still needed those.
anyways. as i said before i don't know the answer to that, wait for rogue

[ViaHipHop]

yea i need to word things better thanks for the help though:)

[Yuckasfuck]

Coversall's bitumen based, that should give you an idea of what it might do.
And hydrochloric acid can do a lot of things both for ink and paint, look at the chemistry of what ur mixin n u might see what i mean.
It can cause rust though but for some reason Rogue said to me it wouldnt work n blah blah blah blah blah, try stuff out and see what can happen.

[ViaHipHop]

so basicly adding bitumen to gk would make it REALY weatherproof and i could write on wet surfaces? wouldnt that make it realy thick and hard to come out of the nib?

[marker luvu]

any advice on how much methylene blue and leather dye i should add to ma batch of pen ink ink?

cheer

[Jet]

depends on if the meth blue is powder or liquid and on how this you want the pen ink.

if the meth blue is powder add it in small amounts cause if you use too much it will collect on the bottom and be wasted. If it's liquid you can add as much as you want.

as for the dye the more you add, the thicker it'll be.

[Sintakz]

:P Jet learned the add as much as you want trick from me

[806BOMR]

ok i researched on gentian violet and i went to my local cvs and asked the lady and she pointed to this shit its some mexico stuff called "aceite de ricino" but i dont think its the right stuff because it says castor oil
is this any good?
or did i waste money on buying it?

[Sintakz]

Yes. BUT, look at this (I translated it the best I could while still having it keep basic sense)

Finally, the ricino oil is a product that comprises of the manufacture of plastics (http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=es_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fes.wikipedia.org%2fwiki%2fPl%25 C3%25A1stico), lacquers (http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=es_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fes.wikipedia.org%2fwiki%2fLaca) , paintings, lubricants (http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=es_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fes.wikipedia.org%2fwiki%2fLubri cante) and cosmetics (http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=es_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fes.wikipedia.org%2fwiki%2fCosm% 25C3%25A9tico).

[806BOMR]

agh you lost me in your ink chemist talk lol sorry bare with me
:S
so is it useful?

[Sintakz]

Not really but it is used to make paint so if you ever get some pigments it can be used almost like linseed oil.

[806BOMR]

kool kool
thanks

[Sintakz]

No problem bro.

[Just Another]

so basicly adding bitumen to gk would make it REALY weatherproof and i could write on wet surfaces? wouldnt that make it realy thick and hard to come out of the nib?

I am pretty sure bitumen is tar... I think that is what is in the OTR Cold Sweat and that is supposed to be tar based... I guess it just might help cover and help with opaqueness...

[DRIPS!]

tar based ehh souds dope i might have to cop one tar is nasty shit

[enuf.oms]

just take off the sponge......clean the boottle and youll see were it separates.......and pull it off

[Rogue]

Hydro Acid will help your paint last longer, it's very corrosive and eats into surfaces.

Butimen will help the opacity and make it nice and thick. It is liquid tar basically, and would only be good in black.

[Sintakz]

Rogue, post up some pics of that pigs blood additive. I wanna see some action shots of it in some ink.

[Rogue]

I don't put it in ink....

I use it straight.....

I need to get myself some more blood, I love the stuff. I think I'm the only ***** using blood, you should get down with it sintakz.

[Sintakz]

I was gonna get down with it but I just gotta find a decent supplier of blood. I was thinking maybe go around to supermarkets and asking the butchers.

[Rogue]

hey will most likely say no because of sanitation and the fact that they have to dispose of it a special way.

But if they say no, try giving him $5...

[Sintakz]

Hahaha. It's how I get my aluminum shaving. "Hey mr. locksmith guy, could I get your aluminum dust if I clean it up myself? Oh, I want it for a project, I'm working on an art project showing modern deconstructionalism. No..... how bout if I give you 5 bucks? Thanks ^_^ "

[Just Another]

Is straight blood any good or was that a complete joke that i am missing a key piece to?

[harry]

i think their seriouse haha spilling ink on your hands is one thing but getting dirty with pigs blood... yuckiess hahahaha but i dont get how good it can be cause blood is based on water...isnt it? so it should come off with water right?

[fonone]

i think their seriouse haha spilling ink on your hands is one thing but getting dirty with pigs blood... yuckiess hahahaha but i dont get how good it can be cause blood is based on water...isnt it? so it should come off with water right?

i dont think he was serious.. but even so it would smell sooo bad after a few days.. especially if its been sitting in a warm place like your pocket.

[Rogue]

No, I'm serious....

If you've been here for a while you would know that I REALLY do use pig's blood. It's horrible shit, but it's great, and free.

It looks pretty cool too, especial for backwards mirror tags....

[Vagrant]

yeah hes serious.

I wonder if i could get any from my aunt and uncle.. they have their own minifarm and might slaughter a pig every now and then..

[BCNU]

what is the magical way of thinning krink i know u know rogue i saw it some other thread and i forgot to bookmark it

[Just Another]

if its ghetto krink just add more thinner...

[SAID]

magical way?
do it yourself, add some more thinner

[BCNU]

no rogue knows what im talking about its like gettoh krink on steroids i saw it some wer in another thread but my dumbass forgot to bookmark

[igots0le]

you mean using a thinner comprised of different ingredients?
try using alcohol and paint thinner. it worked pretty nice in my gk recipies.
this new thread is like gay zomg haxorz. i dont see why we couldve still been posting in the old ink thread.
holy shit i just lost alot of posts from the old ink thread. ='(

[rave905]

no rogue knows what im talking about its like gettoh krink on steroids i saw it some wer in another thread but my dumbass forgot to bookmark

it doesnt matter if u bookmarked it thats the whole reasone y im pissed about the old thread being deleted i had tonz of pages bookmarked n i always read thru pages randomly like wtf u guyz just deleted a history book

[sir.one]

you mad?

[Sintakz]

We all are

[igots0le]

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb32/vixdest/Kitties/you_still_mad.jpg
lol.. anyways i tried adding some weird color pearl ex to my aluminum gk and you cant even see the pigment from the pearl ex.

[Vagrant]

this new thread is like gay zomg haxorz.

then don't post here, the thread will be better off without you. bitching about how the thread sucks makes it suck.

btw you need to add more pearlex

[igots0le]

im not bitching im just saying alot of information was lost in the last ink thread that alot of people still couldve learned from. im not saying this thread sucks either, but couldve been better by just continuing from the old ink thread.
thanks for the info btw.
no beef
http://www.traceypackaging.com/index.asp?category=14487
link to red,black,and of course violet garvey.
also some other inks in there but im not sure if theyre good.
*edit*
how long does google keep the old ink thread cached?

[Vagrant]

i understand and agree. the old thread should not have been deleted, just closed.
traceypackaging is awesome. I've ordered from them. **** may be cheaper, but tracey has red and black :)
PS. the google cashe links don't work. the forum pages are gone.

[Sintakz]

Rogue I need some help and I have a feeling you've already tried something like this. (anyone else feel free to add in if they have experimented with this already). Lets find a way to extract the pigment from paint and suspend it in an alcohol soluble medium

[Rogue]

You can order the same pigments from paint to use them to make ink.

But if your talking taking pigments out of paint itself, talk to me on aim.

And I don't miss the old thread, you people need to get over it. Enmity did exactly what he should have done a long time ago, it makes it easier to go through bullshit.

Stop bitching and post up info or else this thread will blow as hard as FloPen ink

[harry]

im guesing this isnt something we can just evaporate dry the pigment and put it it some isopropyl? ohhhhhh but im guesing you dont wanna evap it though... im lost hahah

[Rogue]

Paint doesnt evap, it just dries...

[Just Another]

Wouldn't paint just dry if you tried to evap it...

EDIT: Damn Rogue beat me to it...

[harry]

haha yeah i realized that after i said it


eh i dunno im still lost

[Sintakz]

Essentially he is going to tell me how I can do something to the (most likely linseed oil if I work with oil based paints) so that it becomes more dense thus causing the pigments in the paint to cease being suspended and float nicely to the top where I can harvest them.

Yummy Yummy

[MARTYRaz]

is denatured alchohol ne good for my ink recipe or should i stick to isoprosomthin???

[Sintakz]

isopropyl and yea it's ok but I wouldn't bother using it if its for like pen ink

[MARTYRaz]

kool...thnx

[AEROSOL_FEEN]

omg...
im making so much profit off of ded...
buy the ink for $15...
fill up like 5+ zig postermans with them
sell the filled zigs for $10 each...
i love dEd.

[Just Another]

Wow toys are dumb...

[harry]

lol no shit there toys i would start doing that with **** accept i live in a smalllllll town and theres no toys to sell them to annnnd i dont wanna see there tags lasting with nasty **** stains andddd i want it for my self haha

[harry]

lol only silly toy i can sell to is me but theres no point in that haha

[sir.one]

Stop bitching and post up info or else this thread will blow as hard as FloPen ink

flow pen ink is one of the best inks i've ever used. lasts years and beats the buff.

[LUST:(]

RIP Gusto Ink

[-=AgA=-TrAnCe]

fuck this thread

if u deleted the old thread enmity your a fucking bellend, some amazing recepys were posted back there
BELLLLLLEEENNNDD.

[Just Another]

I don't think it was him I think it was sir...

But on another note if you get the meblahblah blue at a pet store do you have to evap it?

[Mime1]

Im Sure you can get it in a powder, but don't add too much as you'll be left with undissolved bits in the ink. As for liquid, I'm not too sure, you might be able to get the concentrated type but i think it is just the powder dissolved in water meaning yes , you could evaporate it leaving the powder.

[Vagrant]

methylene blue

no its in an aqueous solution of only 2.3% water.
you could try it if you want but im not sure how it would turn out or if it would be better than the liquid

[edapt_gc]

does anyone know anything about the stencil ink they have in huge quantities on the tracey packaging website?

seems like that shit would nice and permanent and you can get it by the gallon. I wonder if it'd make a good base for adding some leather dye and shit too...

[Teez-EmM!!!]

yesterday i mixed rust paint with paint thiner put it in a bingo dabber mop and it work perfectly fine. but i havent tryed it out on the streets yet. do any of u guys think it will last long??

[rave905]

it will stand up 2 the weather but the buff with destroy it
the whole point with GK is u get nice colors and its ez 2 make n cheap
its not suposed 2 last long

[rave905]

oh and check it out deleting the old ink thread murdered half of our post counters im pretty sure mine was up at like 500 and i remember when sintakz hit 1000 n now hes bak 2 700 lol
more then half of my informative posts r gone

[Just Another]

methylene blue

no its in an aqueous solution of only 2.3% water.
you could try it if you want but im not sure how it would turn out or if it would be better than the liquid


So wait I should try to mix the water based methylene blue with my alcohol based ink? Or ishould try to evap it? Or should i just buy the powder?

[ViaHipHop]

buy the powder but if cant get it evap the liquid

[Vagrant]

since its only 2.3% water it doesn't really matter much. you don't want to add alot anyways. Try evaporating it if you want. I haven't tried it. It might work out better to evap it.

[six6six]

does anyone know anything about the stencil ink they have in huge quantities on the tracey packaging website?

seems like that shit would nice and permanent and you can get it by the gallon. I wonder if it'd make a good base for adding some leather dye and shit too...

get some and try it out. if you don't wanna gamble and end up with a bunch o' shit, go for some ink that you know is good. i know im too cheap to waste money on it;) fuck that. get marsh.

[MontanaPainter]

I AM ALSO CURIOUS ABOUT (srry caps) that stencil ink. test it out

[chief]

how long does marsh last before fading?

[j-f]

did anybody try making the ink with alcohol and pen ink and then a lil brake fluid?
if yes how good did it work for u?

[Rogue]

Sigh

Yes, it has been covered 8427563478562478237543528847382753 times.

It works, it stains, it's cheap, its cool.

Go make some, you'll be happy.

[MontanaPainter]

how long does marsh last before fading?
couple years

[Kruxos]

ive never touched marsh. but i think it fades a lot faster than that.

[MontanaPainter]

your right.


about 3-4 milleniums(sp?)

[Teez-EmM!!!]

stuiped question but how do u get the pen ink out of the pen??
also i made some sik ink by mixing rust paint with paint thiner and break fluild. it work well so far but i cant tell cause it hasnt been buffed yet.

[Just Another]

Check the ink recipe thread a step by step with pics in there...

[six6six]

indeed. just take the ink tubes and cut em in half. put all the tubes into the alcohol and shake that shit and let it sit for a hot second. or a couple days. and then BOOM! add extra stainers or use as is. now, no one need ever ask about it again....until this thread closes one day.


edit: or look in there like JustAnother said

[ViaHipHop]

stuiped question but how do u get the pen ink out of the pen??
also i made some sik ink by mixing rust paint with paint thiner and break fluild. it work well so far but i cant tell cause it hasnt been buffed yet.

drink it.
im not joking its REALY good

it wont hold up to any REAL buff ive used gk and its held up to a buff but its just because they are shitty people doing shitty "buffs".

the break fluid in there is pointless.

proceed in giving up on life.

edit:that was harsh oh well....

[cds_dogg665544]

i figured out a easy fast way to get pen ink out of pen you know how the inside tube has a plastic metel nib at the end yank it off and blow into the opisite end and ink will come out

[Vagrant]

that is the preferred method for those that like to blow things..

nothing easier that putting the cut up tubes in the appropriate volume of ink and letting it sit for a day, or two, or a week. you are literally doing nothing as the ink is removed from the pens. then strain the tubes out.

[Rogue]

kay

[syrup2]

I want syrups cock

.

[Rogue]

I am not Earsnot or Augor

How many times do I have to tell you

:(

[letsg0skate]

haha augor is gay?! Haha I really hope not because augor and earsnot are my favorite writers, that would be kind of weird if they're both gay.

I don't wanna make another useless post in here so, it doesn't really matter if hes gay, it's just pretty funny to me that both of my favorite writers are gay.

[Vagrant]

why would it matter

[acereborn]

What the fuck... This thread is already turning to shit 10 pages in

[##sable##]

so who all has tried that new ink from the shop? gusto is it?

[Sintakz]

DON'T DO IT!!!!. Gusto = Gk plain and simple

[letsg0skate]

I just realized gk is ghetto krink. I am the biggest toy when it comes to ink's and paint hahahaha.

[##sable##]

lol. so gusto sucks?

i usually only use my own ink.

[letsg0skate]

Gusto doesn't "suck" but you can easily make it yourself

[##sable##]

i see. i like the color. the only inks ive made are a really dark sanguine red, and badass purple.

[harry]

So wait I should try to mix the water based methylene blue with my alcohol based ink? Or ishould try to evap it? Or should i just buy the powder?

it works fine i have methylene blue from a pet store near me in liquid form and it i oured some into grog and it mixed fine

[Just Another]

alright cool thanks...

[MK7]

whats the best black ink to order fer winter

[harry]

grog will do you fine but **** is my top choice even though it comes out sorta blue

[Buhda420]

thats due to the methelyne he added into his recipe of diabolical ink

[harry]

yeah i know

[Buhda420]

oi does anyone know wether waproo edging ink would be anygood?
http://www.waproo.com.au/products/edgingink.htm

[harry]

i dunno i think it might be water based

Chemical Composition: Silicone Oil
Water
Solvent
Emulsifiers
Lacquer
Pigments

?????????

hahah rogue im looking at you

[Buhda420]

mother fucker i was a senior member why is my little counter reset

[harry]

hahaha cause all your posts got deleted along with the old ink thread like 200-300 of mine are gone

[Yuckasfuck]

i dunno i think it might be water based

Chemical Composition: Silicone Oil
Water
Solvent
Emulsifiers
Lacquer
Pigments

?????????

hahah rogue im looking at you



You cant really tell what base it has seeing as there are no proportions given.
The first ingredient is an oil though so going by conventions i'd imagine that out of all those ingredients, the oil makes up the most of it.
Fuck knows though, it has water, solvents and oil so it could be any of the three.

Edit: There are emulsifiers and laquers so i highly doubt that it is waterbased.
It's used for dying shoes n shit or w/e it says there so it's most likely solvent or oil based (like most leather dyes).

[rave905]

wwwwwwwwoooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwww
r ppl gettin even more stupid or is it just me

[BCNU]

wwwwwwwwoooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwww
r ppl gettin even more stupid or is it just me both lol wer are some places to get gentillian violet besides online

[rave905]

i hear at drug stores but iv never gotten it

[BCNU]

worth a try ill see if i can make my pen ink stain all that much harder im pretty disapointed in my red pen ink came out a lil transperant

[Yuckasfuck]

Some pharmacies will stock it for feet fungus n shit, it says on wikipedia that it's not readily available though.
You can get 100g of crystalline gentian violet for about £15, that's online though.
And i know you can get it cheaper, but thats usually powdered and you need to buy more.

[Cin123]

i was looking at the ink and recipe thread and posted about how to make junobo paint. basicly he said mix acrillic paint with water... im wondering how much of ech should u use and how good does this acually work...

[Sintakz]

it works ok. I suggest adding in as much paint as half of what you really wanna get then start adding water and mixing till it is as thin as you want it. Done. EXPERIMENTATION KIDDIES!


and you obviously didn't follow directions as right below the action shot it says 2/3 paint 1/3 water

[MontanaPainter]

wow.
*looks at cin*



fucking wow.



and sintakz how is that suphr sapphire ink going? :P :P :P

[Sintakz]

Seems that customs is giving my supplier some shit cause I've yet to get my solvents. I might just say the hell with it and find a local supplier if I don't get my shit by monday of next week

[BboyDr.AquaFresh]

whats a good substitute for rubbing alcohol.

[Sintakz]

denatured alcohol

[BboyDr.AquaFresh]

denatured alcohol
the fuck is that lol

[Sintakz]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denatured_alcohol
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/thumbnails/01-00399.jpg


2 words:
Hardware Store

[thesilentvandal]

is wood stain any good? i just coped some of that shit, and mixed it with some left over grog and brake fluid, not sure how its gonna be, how is wood stain?

[Sintakz]

no, it is not good. utter shit










































j/k that stuff is good, you added it to grog which is good, wood stain does just what its name implies, stains wood, it leaves a nice stain on other materials as well though. Enjoy it :) There is a recipe that uses woodstain in the stickied ink thread if you wanna check it out

[djsupreeme]

ive come to the conclusion that **** is just pen ink with methylene blue added

[Sintakz]

Errr, only half credit for that answer. **** ink is pen ink added to a base ink and meth blue and potassium permegante added to it.

[djsupreeme]

i wish it was more opaque

[Sintakz]

This just in, I WAS WRONG. **** actually hates pen ink and his ink has NOTHING to do with pen ink except that it has some of the same ingredients. Thanks for the info rogue. :P

[djsupreeme]

smells like pen ink.

[Darkeist]

searched this thread and got no results for that forever in control ink. is it good? ive got money to get some inks and dont know what to get

[djsupreeme]

grog + ded red. mix em and fall in love.

[Sintakz]

it only smells like pen ink because it has some of the same ingredients. Aka ingredients that are in ACTUAL pen ink, not the whole add pens to some alcohol, no I mean the ink that is inside the actual tube of the pen

[Case-One]

methalyne blue+rusto oil based+mineral spirits+maybe sum dot 3

[Sintakz]

= waste. Dot3 does shit for paint and methlyne blue serves no real purpose in paint it's better to save it for ink

[Case-One]

so i should use it with pen ink or what?

[Sintakz]

yea use it with pen ink and shit that is alcohol based. Add it to stuff like grog, ded, ect.

[Case-One]

i'm tryin to stay off the buyin company ink ride, cause i'm just trying to make sum good recipes of my own but, if you got any good mixes hit me up, i know i could just look through the rest of the thread, but i'm lazy

[Rogue]

Make sure you only use a few drops...

And stickied ink thread..

[Case-One]

i just mixed up sum black rusto with DOT3 and mineral spirits, it's supper dope but i feel it's missing sumthing

[Case-One]

also i haven't tryed the pen ink mixes yet but that'll b in the near future, how many should i use for a 20 ml bottle?

[Rogue]

That Dot 3 was a waste, just like Sintakz told you a few posts up.

And I posted a bunch of additives for GK in this thread


Edit-

I know I or somone else has said them all before, but just to bump the info

GK Additives

Hydrochloric Acid (Found in Home Depot/Lowes in the outdoor section)
Japan Drier or Ether (Found at any art store or Home Depot/Lowes)
Paint Hardener or Poly (Same as above)
Linseed Oil (Art Stores)
Butimen (Kind of hard to find, I've seen it at Home Depot before, just look around)

Just a few to help people that want better GK.

Found it for you

[Case-One]

i just wondering about Junobo, is it acrylic based or what, because thats water soluable, this is a really dumb question i know

[Rogue]

It's not dumb, your just asking a question, it's all good man.

Junobo is acrylic/latex paint.

It scratches/peels off, and I've mixed it with water before...

Complete utter waste of money. Make it yourself at home.

[Case-One]

could i have a good recipe mix for that, i know i can just fuck around till it gets right but sum hints would be cool

[whocares!?!?!]

This just in, I WAS WRONG. **** actually hates pen ink and his ink has NOTHING to do with pen ink except that it has some of the same ingredients. Thanks for the info rogue. :P

that why it has the bronzeish gloss to it when it's on stuff dark enough to hide the blue?

[Vagrant]

we really need to make a list of stuff to add to the stickied ink recipe thread. that shit needs to get updated constantly. for instance: DOT3 GOES IN INK NOT PAINT, METHYLENE BLUE GOES IN INK NOT PAINT, better ink feedback reviews, etc...

[harry]

oh and on that link that buhda posted you can buy up to 20 litres of raven oil... couple pages back

[sir.one]

there must be some website or distributor for bic that can sell mass quantities of that actual ink.

[Buhda420]

id rather raven oil personally

[sir.one]

oil?

[Buhda420]

yer u must have heard sir or i just have no faith in life itself anymore

[charles408]

have any of you used the office depot brand ink for stamps its got like a plastic ball on it that you need to remove to pour, its super think and high staining already, its great!

GET SOME

[harry]

phail.

[Dont412Sleep]

anyone ever try printer ink?

that seems like it would be nice thing to use for homemade inks other than pen ink

[harry]

:rolleyes:

[Sintakz]

ok harry seriously if someone type something that is wrong don't just tell them phail or roll your eyes, that is pointless and off topic. When Case-One typed that recipe I told him it wouldn't work and WHY. Stop being a dick and actually TELL the new comers WHY shit works or doesn't work, that way they don't make the same mistake again.