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always crushin
12-20-2011, 10:16 PM
why?

MASTAH_RIBCAGE
12-20-2011, 10:37 PM
uh oh, hes got a crush on you bro

SynOne
12-21-2011, 03:29 AM
^ Lmfao. Cause, your style is amazing. You should do more filled and finished pieces though.

always crushin
12-21-2011, 03:46 AM
Ya I would but I honestly have no time to colour my stuff, that takes so much time, most of the time if anything I'll just do one solid colors but my fills are fucking tough, But I'v been also painting quite frequently, just dont post up much.
fllick for talking
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/-syke-/skws44.jpg

Phillip McDougall
12-21-2011, 11:12 AM
I want to see a black fill, silver outline from you. No crazy colors. Your style is too wild to have a crazy fill right now, you'll get better at fills when you have fatter letters to really have room to go wild with it.

PETER
12-21-2011, 11:26 AM
Skadeem: Maybe try to model the bottom of your K off the bottom of the S and E rather than the P. I think it will vibe better.
Phil: I like the B a lot. Not feeling the R and struggling to make heads or tails with the rest of it.
Always: That bottom joint is sick. Middle one isn't bad, but the L and T seem a little out of place or a little plain compaired to the S and R.

Phillip McDougall
12-21-2011, 11:39 AM
I don't really need crits anymore.. I know where I'm headed and I don't need people on this site to help me out with my style anymore. If something looks wack, I'll figure it out eventually and get better. Thanks though. If you don't feel my shit, I'm not concerned.

H1P30N3R
12-21-2011, 03:48 PM
my n is 2 big and wack oh well ...
http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb409/heyzues07/102_3563.jpg

Tempo718
12-21-2011, 04:20 PM
46744like that 1 dog

Phillip McDougall
12-21-2011, 04:34 PM
46746

ehhh

H1P30N3R
12-21-2011, 04:39 PM
props phil really dig your style

colz
12-21-2011, 07:12 PM
Just got back into graffing after i quit 2 years ago, cyclops "clops"

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Phillip McDougall
12-22-2011, 11:06 AM
Do you realize how many Clops there are and how many more Klops there are?

colz
12-22-2011, 01:52 PM
Do you realize how many Clops there are and how many more Klops there are?

are you sugesting a change

straightgoods
12-22-2011, 04:02 PM
http://i.imgur.com/5Tvw5.jpg (http://imgur.com/5Tvw5) crits plz

SkateJunt
12-22-2011, 04:14 PM
changing my name to gerb. feels like it would be nice to bomb with and its kinda a jokes name in a way. as in it would be jokes to see everywhere. taking it out bombing tonight.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7159/6556130497_d95b82c622.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6556130497/)
Picture 176 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6556130497/) by Stewart Stevenson (http://www.flickr.com/people/69411978@N04/), on Flickr

MiDo93
12-22-2011, 04:24 PM
straight goods - ditch the peace sign, and i cant really make out the third letter fix it up cause it looks like a "c", "r", or a "p"

Nyc Sno
12-22-2011, 11:53 PM
So I did some more practice and this is how I ended up this morning.

I think the U came out a little too big:rolleyes:

http://www.bombingscience.com/graffitiforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=42587&d=1322423882way to completely butcher my old throwie
http://robotswillkill.com/graffiti/10302006092106Photo57.jpg

knowtheledge
12-23-2011, 12:43 AM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7021/6557926643_da360bca16_z.jpg

r4wrs4uce
12-24-2011, 12:01 AM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7021/6557926643_da360bca16_z.jpg

Dayumn I'm diggin pretty much all those throwies and 3-d makes it even better

Phat 2
12-24-2011, 02:57 AM
these are drop shadows not 3d's
and we don't quote the post right before us

Skadeem
12-24-2011, 01:22 PM
I gotta admit...I don't dig those

rebz
12-24-2011, 02:03 PM
46974

Phillip McDougall
12-24-2011, 03:10 PM
me like.

Mr. November
12-24-2011, 05:32 PM
way to completely butcher my old throwie

I don't think they look too similar. The U and K are not similar at all.. Just the same name, I've switched since then.

Colors
12-24-2011, 07:46 PM
REBS where you from? or what state whatever.
random word bored in class
46995

Hick94
12-26-2011, 11:10 AM
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/5880/img0146j.jpg
quick sketch...any critz

gemer
12-26-2011, 04:48 PM
@knowtheledge- diggen the bottom left one has good flow.
@hick your k looks just like the h' backwards but i like the h' lol

Mr. November
12-26-2011, 07:23 PM
Yeah Hick. I thought that the K was actually an H. You have to define it more.

MN Nice
12-27-2011, 03:46 PM
Some daytime hollows.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p104/skier46/IMG00558-20111227-1442.jpg?t=1325022336
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p104/skier46/IMG00564-20111227-1447.jpg?t=1325022301

Norfsuthr
12-27-2011, 04:51 PM
^I like it all except the top right extension thing on the S. Needs some change.

Rebs that looks sick but the S could be better and the old E you posted looked better.

mace2200
12-27-2011, 06:16 PM
@ rebz, u in a chevy or gmc?

Norfsuthr
12-28-2011, 12:27 AM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7156/6586343725_c31ee5bbbf.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/52108332@N02/6586343725/)
oie_2872517vtTHtI8s (http://www.flickr.com/photos/52108332@N02/6586343725/)

feels street ready to me, what do ya think?

Phat 2
12-28-2011, 07:19 AM
hell no^

props on the progression mues

Shell703
12-28-2011, 09:48 AM
A "Y" with fill...
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee183/Whispem703/002-2.jpg\

There's some good stuff on this page, especially like the MUES, ARKE and YUK

Norfsuthr
12-28-2011, 01:19 PM
hell no^

props on the progression mues

Fuck off and die arab, yer just pissed my sloppy throw on paper kills every single piece of graff in your entire country. Eat some ham fuckface.

Mori
12-28-2011, 05:01 PM
hell no^

props on the progression mues
Haha agreed. Keep it I in the books notsuthr... Please

Phat 2
12-28-2011, 05:16 PM
Fuck off and die arab, yer just pissed my sloppy throw on paper kills every single piece of graff in your entire country. Eat some ham fuckface.

wow. way to lose your cool kid.
how is it that you properly contribute to the forum and completely lose it the second someone doesn't like your flick?

I have to admit that this was one of the most surprising posts I've read.
I'm sorry, but your throw is no good. that is my opinion, and whether you think it's better than everything I have in my entire country or not is irrelevant to the subject.
even if you think your throw is better than all throws in the history of throws. it still sucks.

I am not the least pissed about shit. and as a matter of fact, I do eat ham... why you mention this is beyond me (I do know, but I'm gonna settle with that for now)
it's important to have a little education my ignorant little friend.
hopefully you'll one day grow up and learn to accept negative feedback.

now. you have one more time to pull that racist arab and ham bullshit. you were warned.

Mori
12-28-2011, 05:30 PM
You get a timb to the knot for running your yap like that in my city.

"PHYSH"
12-28-2011, 06:35 PM
sorry for the disappointment Norfsuthr, but i dont know how ignorant you are but if you did some research lebanon is a christian country, which means we have ham everywhere... and if you go racist like that again i'll buy a ticket to wherever the fuck you are and imprint my shoe on your tongue through your ass..... get educated bitch.....

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MN Nice
12-28-2011, 08:16 PM
hell no^

props on the progression mues

Thanks my dude.

@norf - its not THAT bad. It just needs more personality to it like your tags and pieces have. To quote Phillip on here, your throw is like puttin up a gang sign, simple yet recognizable and also intimidating.

Mori
12-28-2011, 09:03 PM
47328
Crits

MN Nice
12-28-2011, 10:38 PM
Keep throws off the bottom of the paper.

Colors
12-28-2011, 10:51 PM
crits?
4733147332

gemer
12-29-2011, 06:58 PM
im diggen it mor thats tight

gemer
12-29-2011, 07:15 PM
quick throw for mori lol highlighters
47374

"PHYSH"
12-30-2011, 05:21 PM
4775447755
crits...?

gemer
12-30-2011, 07:34 PM
^ top ones pretty sweet

47762

Skaep
12-31-2011, 02:51 AM
@physh im feelin the second one, maybe drop the second char on the s?

@gemer looks good man

H1P30N3R
12-31-2011, 03:24 PM
gemer to much dead space bring your letters together and the k needs work

gemer
12-31-2011, 03:35 PM
alright thanks man^^^ :)

Mori
12-31-2011, 03:45 PM
That's dope gem. I digg the throws. Do you ever paint though?

gemer
12-31-2011, 04:01 PM
hell yea man thanx and shit i do sometimes but not that often i would like to do it every fuckin night man but where im at its tough you know but shit ill try to get a painted peice posted see what ya think

TastyMcNasty
12-31-2011, 04:57 PM
47328
Crits

dope other than, like what MN said, don't do throws on the bottom of a page. and i say fix the bottom right leg of the R, and you're set.
colors- good, but try and make the bottom left leg of the R stick out less, and give the overall throw more flow, for some reason it looks stiff to me, as if you took your time drawing it. and one last thing, the E in the first one is better.
germer- you're on the right track, but it's still fairly weak. weird, i woulda thought your throw game would be up to par with your handies and pieces. keep practicing, and simple it up a bit more and your throw will get better. E on the smoke flick is dope though.
fish- go more simple, dont do any of those point things, or faces. and fix that handie, hurts to look at hahah

JesterSmile
12-31-2011, 07:32 PM
I just started when Christmas break started. Criticism please. Even if it's bad. 4873948740487414874248743

gemer
12-31-2011, 08:15 PM
@tasty mcnasty-thanks bro and yea my throw game fuckin sucks i havent really done to much of them until just like this past week

gemer
12-31-2011, 08:17 PM
@jester go more simple no need for the weird shit like the bottom one? just go more simple try not to make it complicating

Skaep
01-01-2012, 12:40 AM
Crits?

48755

Im not sure about how i like the bottom of the p and im thinkin about squaring off the lower part of the s

gemer
01-01-2012, 01:05 AM
definatly fix the p' and the size like of the k and the p ya no what im syin compared to the s

H1P30N3R
01-01-2012, 01:32 AM
http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb409/heyzues07/IMG-20111122-01735.jpg
http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb409/heyzues07/IMG-20111122-01732.jpg
http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb409/heyzues07/102_3562.jpg
http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb409/heyzues07/102_3563.jpg
http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb409/heyzues07/102_3557.jpg

Colors
01-01-2012, 01:36 AM
hipe i love your style for throws, i know youve already done one before but can you do a naked? i suck at throws still so i could just try a piece out for you

H1P30N3R
01-01-2012, 01:38 AM
word Ill hook u up man I suck at pieces so a simp would even be cool
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Colors
01-01-2012, 01:40 AM
alright lets just post these in the exchange thread, thanks man

H1P30N3R
01-01-2012, 01:42 AM
cool will do

gemer
01-01-2012, 01:45 AM
dope stuff hipe like them throws

H1P30N3R
01-01-2012, 01:48 AM
thanks what you write ill get u a throw up too

gemer
01-01-2012, 01:51 AM
hell yea i write zeno..ill throw u a hipe as well

H1P30N3R
01-01-2012, 02:28 AM
http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb409/heyzues07/102_3566.jpg

gemer
01-01-2012, 02:29 AM
dope stuff thanks mann

H1P30N3R
01-01-2012, 02:50 AM
thanks man I hate z's

Phat 2
01-01-2012, 08:43 AM
what! peso, stick with the style you got going on the first flick pronto!

threethirty
01-01-2012, 06:03 PM
Really my first try with a name/throw..I know they suck and I'm not sure if I like the name, Vekz. But any criticism/advice would be appreciated.

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/7587/001ili.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/17/001ili.jpg/)

http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/1275/002xai.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/638/002xai.jpg/)

A lot of you can probably tell who I got the V from haha..I just fucked around and came up with the throw real quick.

PhuktheSystem
01-01-2012, 07:11 PM
fill up a few old phonebooks with "practice" so your letters improve..

Skaep
01-01-2012, 07:13 PM
@gemer ok yeah thanks

PhuktheSystem
01-01-2012, 07:26 PM
thanx,the artist wanted it supposedly to look like a fish and the first letter is a lowercase a

PhuktheSystem
01-01-2012, 07:33 PM
...

Fang
01-01-2012, 07:37 PM
48804 I kinda fucked up the G....

Skaep
01-02-2012, 01:10 AM
Re done a little, crits?

48975
48976

gemer
01-02-2012, 01:27 AM
looks better^

MN Nice
01-02-2012, 01:43 AM
That S overlaps too much

threethirty
01-03-2012, 09:47 AM
I changed my name to Veker and came up with a throw..I'd appreciate any criticism. I don't think it looks awful but could be better somehow.

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/1686/001lae.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/194/001lae.jpg/)

Skadeem
01-03-2012, 10:17 AM
Look at bunches of throws and try to come up with something with originality and flow. exposure is key

Mori
01-03-2012, 11:10 AM
49265

Phillip McDougall
01-03-2012, 11:31 AM
Seriously guys, nobody is going to help you get a perfect throwie, no matter how dope it is. Because a perfect throwie comes from arm recognition. Your arms get used to the same motions that you do it so many times it comes naturally and looks clean. Just do it over and over and over and over and over and over again. buy one of those composition books, and fill the whole thing with one word. then let's see where you're at. Experiment though. Try different ends, rounding out, blocking out, weird extensions to add flow, all kinds of shit. but no matter what you do, you need to take the time and FUCK WITH IT.

Mori
01-03-2012, 01:23 PM
Phil you got crits on the post above you?

H1P30N3R
01-03-2012, 03:36 PM
I dig it mori the o is hard to make fit well but I like the style for sure

Mori
01-03-2012, 04:40 PM
I was finding hard to make then look good floating, but I think I got a bit of a better grip on bottoms of letters

Evow1
01-03-2012, 05:00 PM
phills right.. throws are like handys, you gotta practice that shit hella

SneeZ
01-03-2012, 06:12 PM
yea, i agree. Mor, nice style you packin up there. Maybe, smaller the gap beetwin legs of r, by making the top part of letter bit bigger, nah meen? but mos def put exclemation mark lower. anywayz its fat!

H1P30N3R
01-03-2012, 10:04 PM
anyone want a throw tell me what u write ill get u 1 up

dankbudz
01-03-2012, 10:40 PM
can someone give me a step by step tutorial on how to write a perfect graffiti tag throwie?

DaFugg
01-03-2012, 11:43 PM
Just playing with throws. Please crit.
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/Hatchetwarrior1246/securedownload.jpg

snoketg
01-04-2012, 01:10 AM
hip, can you do a seek throw for me?

Hick94
01-04-2012, 12:34 PM
going for a more throw up style....
hip if you want you can do a hick throw up
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/6743/img0165o.jpg

SneeZ
01-04-2012, 12:43 PM
dank for begining try to curve the bottom of your e's and r, like you did on s and d. try to maintain the same letter top like the one on s, by that you gave em continuity. or you find different way of making top, mid and bottom parts of letters to fit the flow of your other letters. there is no step by step guide, all you have to do is practice a lot and your hand will find new ways to define letters, itself. And i also believe throwies are heavily stylized latters. like phill saidn take time and fuck with it.

dankbudz
01-04-2012, 02:21 PM
lol, was that an answer to my question? cause i was kid din..

gemer
01-04-2012, 02:30 PM
^^ hahahahaha
@mori im diggen the style and all but the gap between the r' needs to be fixed but other than that looks pretty dope man

Evow1
01-04-2012, 03:56 PM
aaahahahahahahahahahahahahah, fuck.

gim
01-04-2012, 06:10 PM
49492
basic idea for my throwie, crits appreciated
would crit all you other heads but i don't know shit about throw ups lol

spiltink
01-05-2012, 04:40 PM
fista even though i wasnt around much in the best time for graff (80-90) but from what i heard he bombed everywhere and put my city on the map as the main city for graff

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13341191/a/fistasharp.jpg
interview for you all
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13341191/a/fisto%20interview.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13341191/a/fista%20interview.jpg

the writers that are writing now arent that exciting but are ok with a few good ones

sadgeh
01-05-2012, 08:15 PM
bad the site isnt working.

Kid Samurai
01-06-2012, 04:39 AM
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z141/el_anikelao/l_be1146d3ce294189be65adc58023685f.jpg

SkateJunt
01-06-2012, 07:40 AM
crits? lines are kinda rough cuz im using sharpies and thin ass graph paper

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7143/6646916011_9641f052b5.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6646916011/)
Picture 184 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6646916011/) by Stewart Stevenson (http://www.flickr.com/people/69411978@N04/), on Flickr

SkateJunt
01-06-2012, 09:30 AM
some jokes lil tings i sketched up, dans is my buddy

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7005/6647369015_bf9972264c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6647369015/)
Picture 188 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6647369015/) by Stewart Stevenson (http://www.flickr.com/people/69411978@N04/), on Flickr
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7162/6647369747_4c88e10f94.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6647369747/)
Picture 189 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6647369747/) by Stewart Stevenson (http://www.flickr.com/people/69411978@N04/), on Flickr
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7018/6647368357_b4247805b5.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6647368357/)
Picture 187 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6647368357/) by Stewart Stevenson (http://www.flickr.com/people/69411978@N04/), on Flickr
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7027/6647367371_4163d87bb5.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6647367371/)
Picture 185 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6647367371/) by Stewart Stevenson (http://www.flickr.com/people/69411978@N04/), on Flickr

Phat 2
01-06-2012, 10:15 AM
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z141/el_anikelao/l_be1146d3ce294189be65adc58023685f.jpg

lamb of god poster !

unjust ban
01-06-2012, 11:29 AM
bad the site isnt working.

no it was my own but i took it down i can put it back up if you want

and it was meant fro another thread

sadgeh
01-06-2012, 12:14 PM
if its a interview it would be nice, PM me the link.

SkateJunt
01-07-2012, 04:27 PM
crits on the trow i did for the throwie battle? the only letter i use in this in my tag is the E
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7022/6655409693_b480bcc2ed.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6655409693/)
Picture 192 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6655409693/) by Stewart Stevenson (http://www.flickr.com/people/69411978@N04/), on Flickr

dankbudz
01-10-2012, 09:17 PM
that Q is fucked and the E is a bit too covered.

lol this R is messed up

gemer
01-10-2012, 09:54 PM
^^diggen that seder looks nice and clean

MN Nice
01-10-2012, 10:53 PM
An old friend sent this to me when he went out to a yard that I was at a couple nights earlier. Nothing special or that good.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p104/skier46/IMG00566-20111227-1958.jpg?t=1326257501

Zookyook
01-11-2012, 10:06 AM
50481
50482

gemer
01-11-2012, 08:40 PM
fuckinnnggg doppeee man ^^^

H1P30N3R
01-12-2012, 12:01 AM
hell yeah zook miss seeing your shit around here man.... name change?

Zookyook
01-12-2012, 05:19 AM
nemor still... mindy is a girl that likes how fast i do throwups i guess, gets the bitches moist

PETER
01-12-2012, 11:21 AM
nice Zook. That top one has some jell-o jigglers action going on.

GETS93
01-12-2012, 11:48 AM
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SkateJunt
01-12-2012, 06:25 PM
crits?
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7146/6687084637_cd93e7f8df.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6687084637/)
Picture 208 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6687084637/) http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7028/6687084327_f35179fe06.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6687084327/)
Picture 207 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6687084327/) by Stewart Stevenson (http://www.flickr.com/people/69411978@N04/), on Flickrby Stewart Stevenson (http://www.flickr.com/people/69411978@N04/), on Flickr

Phat 2
01-12-2012, 07:27 PM
how the hell did I keep reading that minoy without realising it's really mindy. wtf moment

snoketg
01-12-2012, 08:27 PM
zook those throws are fresh,
just drew this up a little while ago
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MN Nice
01-12-2012, 10:03 PM
fresh! Paint that.

dankbudz
01-12-2012, 11:35 PM
bored. crits on dis?

after
01-13-2012, 12:22 PM
Crits plz 50740

sadgeh
01-13-2012, 12:33 PM
Too sqaury give it some lil flow. But stick in the beginning to simple letters, look at your keyboard.

snoketg
01-13-2012, 03:35 PM
dank, i liked the letters in the blue throw more, but thats just me. i think you should try and make all your letters the same size and the tops and bottoms of all the letters end ion the same level (if that makes sense)

SkateJunt
01-13-2012, 10:12 PM
crits on some throws i drew today?
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7005/6693103331_c1ddc30953.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6693103331/)
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7143/6693102987_9e17206ce6.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/Picture 211 by Stewart Stevenson (http://www.flickr.com/people/69411978@N04/), on Flickr

SkateJunt
01-13-2012, 10:13 PM
crits on some throws i drew today?
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7005/6693103331_c1ddc30953.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6693103331/)
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7143/6693102987_9e17206ce6.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/Picture 211 by Stewart Stevenson (http://www.flickr.com/people/69411978@N04/), on Flickr

dankbudz
01-14-2012, 02:02 AM
you the Gerber baby grown up n ready to tag?


snoketg- yurp, i dig what your saying.

Hick94
01-14-2012, 10:42 AM
gerb on some of your pics your b looks like a e...good work tho

MN Nice
01-14-2012, 12:29 PM
Gerb, your R's are lacking hard.

206sape
01-14-2012, 02:04 PM
vsk and fdk booiiii
-sape

Phat 2
01-14-2012, 02:39 PM
you're not hardcore. just underage... boiiiiii
-phat2

SkateJunt
01-14-2012, 03:19 PM
did this at 4 am bombing this morning
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7167/6696956611_c6a980453b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6696956611/)
Picture 212 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6696956611/) by Stewart Stevenson (http://www.flickr.com/people/69411978@N04/), on Flickr

H1P30N3R
01-14-2012, 07:48 PM
hey stewart stevenson posting pics claiming the graff with your legal name on your flickr account is a pretty smooth move

Jake_NN_Bake
01-14-2012, 09:49 PM
First throw-up. Advice welcome. Sorry about the quality, it was taken on my phone.
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/2716/img20120113183521.jpg

gemer
01-14-2012, 10:08 PM
drop the stuff around it man and it goes from like big to small keep drawin tho man

SkateJunt
01-14-2012, 10:36 PM
hey stewart stevenson posting pics claiming the graff with your legal name on your flickr account is a pretty smooth move
haha yeah man thats definately my real name

DMND
01-15-2012, 12:50 AM
Just messin with a new name. Crits appreciated.




50980

Jake_NN_Bake
01-15-2012, 03:09 AM
Here's a little throw-up I put together. As always, advice welcome.

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/2051/throwup.jpg

206sape
01-15-2012, 03:34 AM
cool bro why does it matter what age i am? im just reppin my crews and showin my art dont give me shit

Zookyook
01-15-2012, 02:44 PM
gerb i wouldnt call it bombing unless its in a busy spot and u go bigger... no one uses silver for hollow throwups... unless maybe its an all black wall or somethin

sape thats not a throwup, put it in the 'post ur painted pieces' thread or something... id call it a fillin, looks real small though

goon throwups are supposed to be fast and usually u shouldnt put a full color background on it lol the idea is 'throwing' ur name 'up' on the wall as fast as u can with style... keep at it, try markers or pens instead of colored pencils lol

meh...
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7023/6702365145_3261a93263_z.jpg

SkateJunt
01-15-2012, 03:21 PM
its not like that was all i did, just all i really bothered to flick and its right at the side of a busy road near a busy intersection, il take a flick today of a hollow i did on a wall at the actual intersection, and i caught around 50 tags and 3 hollows going down the main road all with cans, so im pretty sure thats bombing. but about the silver yeah i guess, dont really know why i did it in silver, i guess i though it would be more visible, maybe il go back and fill it n outline in black

manchoo
01-15-2012, 03:41 PM
51045

manchoo
01-15-2012, 03:42 PM
haha foshoo

sadgeh
01-15-2012, 04:51 PM
How fast can you put that throw up on the wall? Mine cost me 5 a 6 minutes still practicing but with this you have to be in stress all the time?

threethirty
01-15-2012, 06:00 PM
Says "Vocer"

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/6353/015pp.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/819/015pp.jpg/)

SkateJunt
01-15-2012, 06:03 PM
define the c more

SkateJunt
01-15-2012, 06:03 PM
and make dropshadow on the drips same as on the throw

threethirty
01-15-2012, 06:09 PM
Thanks, I'll try that out

Edit: Messed with the C, I just left the drips out for this one.

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/5545/016mtl.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/215/016mtl.jpg/)

Zookyook
01-15-2012, 08:06 PM
lose the line in the bottom of the V... and i dont think u should define the C more, looked better the first time.... basically work on the drop shadow ur attempting cuz its not workin... its easy though all u haveta do is think of the whole throw moved down and to the left a little bit... or whichever way u want the drop to go..... seems like it just doesnt fit right on the top left of the V.... ull get it


oh and throws should never take more than like 4 minutes... i aim for 2 minutes or less, but its easier to do the fill with cans compared to markers... and u can go huge and itll still take no time really.... just dont worry about bein super clean, throws are meant to be grimy, clean throwups are for sponsored fags that get paid to paint lol as long as the outline is dope the throw will impress... i hate when people take their time and do cutbacks on throws...

threethirty
01-15-2012, 09:09 PM
Thanks for the advice, I appreciate it. Looking at it I definitely like the first C more too, and I'm going to try and work on my shadows. They're just hard, mine look a little thick I think. That's good advice, I definitely want mine to go to the left. I've done tags with paint with an old, toy name but never done a throw up with paint so I want to make sure it doesn't look like shit when I actually get up with it. But I'll work on my throw and post what I have eventually, I appreciate the advice again.

H1P30N3R
01-15-2012, 10:14 PM
http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb409/heyzues07/IMG-20111122-01735.jpg
http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb409/heyzues07/IMG-20111122-01732.jpg
http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb409/heyzues07/102_3562.jpg
http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb409/heyzues07/102_3563.jpg
http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb409/heyzues07/102_3557.jpg

looking for some zook crits please

Zookyook
01-16-2012, 11:47 AM
looking for some zook crits please
i like the sesik one most.... and the RAI in the brains one is nice, but the N is too big and the B needs work... the Ts in tart look good, maybe try a lowercase r on that one keep the rest the same....
the second one looks like pesoe or somethin, not feelin that first letter.... and the cross and 4 dots in the O is overdone by a lot of writers... just make different faces in ur Os that are somewhat original

Skadeem
01-16-2012, 03:53 PM
fuckin round
51181

snoketg
01-16-2012, 04:37 PM
skad you should work on your letters some more im not really feelin the squariness of them all

PETER
01-17-2012, 09:17 AM
Hipe and zook. I am in need of some inspiration for throws. Mine are super horrible and you guys motivate the shit out of me to work on them. If you guys could do some really basic hollows that say Antik I would greatly appriciate it. If not tottally cool too.

Cisco
01-17-2012, 04:25 PM
what do i need to do before this gets put into paint? talking more about formation of letters, ill play with adding shadow and colours later on
all crits appreciated
51270

SkateJunt
01-17-2012, 07:32 PM
crits?
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7169/6717594045_89c728502f.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6717594045/)
Picture 216 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6717594045/) by Stewart Stevenson (http://www.flickr.com/people/69411978@N04/), on Flickr

DaFugg
01-17-2012, 10:36 PM
Just playing with throws. Please crit.
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/Hatchetwarrior1246/securedownload.jpg
Never got crits. Not sure what I'm doing so I at least would like feedback.

Skaep
01-18-2012, 01:35 AM
A couple starting points i guess.. crits appreciated

51299

PETER
01-18-2012, 07:59 AM
Fugg: I'm not one to crit throws as I don't really have a remotely decent one... but that's a little rough. I can't read it at all. try to simple it up and give your letters more deffinition. Don't fuck with decoration yet. Get your letters down.
Cisco: That's not a bad start. I assume it's DSP. Make that first letter a little more clear and get the top and bottom of your P to look not so broken.

Evow1
01-18-2012, 01:43 PM
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e155/dc12/100_0228.jpg

Phat 2
01-18-2012, 03:13 PM
new name, new throw.
feedback?

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/406219_357041570989425_100000507545549_1344129_873 734878_n.jpg

MN Nice
01-18-2012, 03:17 PM
I don't like that at all.

DaFugg
01-18-2012, 03:23 PM
Fugg: I'm not one to crit throws as I don't really have a remotely decent one... but that's a little rough. I can't read it at all. try to simple it up and give your letters more deffinition. Don't fuck with decoration yet. Get your letters down.


Says Light. I thought it was pretty clear? Any more specific on what I did wrong? Like I said I'm not really getting throws easily either haha

PETER
01-18-2012, 03:34 PM
the L looks kinda like a cartoon middle finger. The I works, but the thing on the right side makes it a little awkward. The G could use some deffinition, it looks like it's collapsing on it's self. the H is hiding. The T looks like something just stuck on the end... maybe a C. Not trying to be harsh I struggle with them too. Only throw I've got is some boxes....

DaFugg
01-18-2012, 03:45 PM
Thanks dude. Yeah it's hard for me to define my letters yet keep them in the same style. So I made sacrifices. Back to work.

Phillip McDougall
01-18-2012, 03:52 PM
I don't like that at all.
yeah

ChadWarden
01-18-2012, 04:14 PM
new name, new throw.
feedback?

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/406219_357041570989425_100000507545549_1344129_873 734878_n.jpg

you're trying too hard to make your letters connect. neither the v-e nor the n-o are defined. i would think this read vnm, no vowels. the top and bottom "lines" makes this awkward, too. the v is short, the n even more so, the m has more height than both of them and it together they look bad. also, i just dont think the icecream swirl bottoms are working.

if it makes you feel better, i was feeling that straight letter highway spot you did. :)

Phat 2
01-18-2012, 04:41 PM
hmm... aight back to the drawing board I guess then...
anybody care to hit me with some venom throws to check what's good ?

edit: come to think about it, I actually intended to make it a vnm throw, bit then noticed I could throw a couple holes in the v and n and make it venom.

but suppose those holes didn't exist, and the throw actually read vnm instead of the whole venom word. and the tops of the m were shorter to match the height of the v and n..
suppose I made all those modifications and even lost the pointy bottoms. what would you think of it then? chadwarden?

I'll post a flick of the modified one later

Zookyook
01-18-2012, 06:27 PM
dont change ur name phat... i definitely read that throw as VNM though didnt even see the E or O til CW mentioned it... i say work on new phat2 throws if anything... venom is a shitty name and u actually put in work getting the name u have out there... i was told i might wanna change my name cuz theres a nems in ohio... but theres no nemor, and im not gonna throw away all that time and paint just because my name is kinda like someone else in my home state... sometimes the rules should be bent, no reason u shouldnt keep writing phat2

Phat 2
01-18-2012, 06:41 PM
I have the only 2 reasons I need bro.
1- I'm bored with phat2
2- I like venom better

Nothing's going to waste man. I practiced a hell lot with phat2, gotten well up and all city with it and had just about all the fun I can have with it. and I couldn't care less if venom's over used or if it's a shitty name. I like it, and that's about all I need to do to start writing it. liking a name is enough to write it dude... The rules never were straight to be bent really.. hehe.

now if it's not too much to ask, can you hit me with some crits if you have anything to add to CW's or if you disagree with anything he said?

Mori
01-18-2012, 10:05 PM
I think it def reflects what you had going with phat in my opinion. But that attempt is very heavy toward the tail end. I am a fan of the three letter throw ups. Without the letter connections and an m to balance the end out and id say you got something
51353
51354

SynOne
01-18-2012, 10:35 PM
Honestly, I agree with what has been said, Phat2 is a pretty beastly name, but I also see your side where you say you've had all the fun you can, which makes sense. Write Venom, do what you want. Plus, I can see that being a pretty sick word, and it also kinda goes with your job as a graphic artist, I've noticed you did some with Venom.

Mori - That full Venom is Sexy.

Skaep
01-18-2012, 11:20 PM
A couple starting points i guess.. crits GREATLY appreciated

51299

posted at the top...just wondering if a toy could get some crits

Mori
01-18-2012, 11:25 PM
Thanks syn, skaep, open up your letters so you can define it more as the letter you intend, they are to closed off and only resemble a rough shape of letters

Skaep
01-19-2012, 01:43 AM
Ok thanks

smokeitup
01-19-2012, 02:27 AM
posted at the top...just wondering if a toy could get some crits

they both suck. that s is wack try making it look more like and s and less blockish.

Cisco
01-19-2012, 09:45 AM
Cisco: That's not a bad start. I assume it's DSP. Make that first letter a little more clear and get the top and bottom of your P to look not so broken.

it was supposed to say "asp" but i see where it could be misleading. changed the A up a bit and connected the P

51388

Krusty1
01-19-2012, 10:27 AM
you need to make the top of the P a little bigger, i would bring the loop part down to match the line in the S

Colors
01-19-2012, 01:32 PM
Throws from my old black book

noooo phat dont change i like your old name dude
5142351424514255142651427

ChadWarden
01-19-2012, 01:44 PM
oh yes.

Phat 2
01-19-2012, 05:26 PM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/407931_357891810904401_100000507545549_1346194_931 136552_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/399653_357891840904398_100000507545549_1346195_128 5643157_n.jpg

sorry but I'm really liking the pointy bottoms because my hand flows real nice with their movement.
but how about now, I fixed some proportions and shit. any better?
serious crits please. I'm really serious about it ok??? seriously!

snoketg
01-19-2012, 05:58 PM
colors im really feelin the greyish brown throw on the second pic thats so dope

Colors
01-19-2012, 06:05 PM
yeee gees doin it dirty

gemer
01-20-2012, 02:34 AM
diggen that vemon throw phat

YorkCro
01-20-2012, 04:57 AM
51594
51595

smokeitup
01-20-2012, 07:33 AM
i know y's are hard to do but change it up somehow so it looks a bit better.

SynOne
01-20-2012, 09:18 AM
Phat, it seems like your M is HUGE compared to the rest of it, maybe you could find a way to narrow it down a little. On the E you should do it like the top of your O make the left actually have the point that comes up, the way the E is right now looks awkward and forced, the point on the left side should help it flow more naturally.

Phat 2
01-20-2012, 11:43 AM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/400176_358437860849796_100000507545549_1347244_194 706989_n.jpg

kwu
01-20-2012, 01:47 PM
dope^ and that gees toss is grimey!

gemer
01-20-2012, 03:28 PM
@york keep practicin work on the y'
@ phat decent man not sure about the color tho

ッℤкℯ
01-20-2012, 05:18 PM
@Phat I think that shit looks pretty good and the fill in looks almost like some kind of hemp spider web lol

'Crook'
01-22-2012, 05:40 AM
51800

Crits please...

skinaone
01-22-2012, 04:47 PM
51876 Im back after a lonnng time with out painting
some really oldscraps i had

emace1
01-22-2012, 06:55 PM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7002/6745860887_d764de5af6.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/spacehoes/6745860887/)
IMG_0177 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/spacehoes/6745860887/) by sirduke! (http://www.flickr.com/people/spacehoes/), on Flickr
quickies

'Crook'
01-24-2012, 12:10 PM
Any crits for this ? : 52044

sadgeh
01-24-2012, 01:32 PM
Im gunna turn a tulip joint, thanks for the great idea.

But dont make the T look like a dick, and the U is too much leaning too the left.

skinaone
01-24-2012, 06:05 PM
def not feeling that name but
the U is fine has a lil steez to it take the lil bulp off tho just make it round
for the T make it a dick ill be fucking funny make the I simpler and that the lil stick inside the P and put it more towars the round part get it?

bak
01-25-2012, 01:53 AM
bump those join throws

BennyBoii
01-25-2012, 03:30 AM
trying out a new name
52140
crits are welcome

leaf88
01-25-2012, 09:24 AM
I having trouble with my D's in my throwies....Anyone wanna exchange ?? I write DoS , this is what i came up with so far :/ ugghh 52142

DieHippie
01-25-2012, 09:40 AM
benny - it looks like somethings been eatin on your throwie . at least round em out instead of chop em in half
dos - try a lowercase D and ur S ... dusnt look like an S

Mori
01-25-2012, 01:59 PM
52151 Hella windy night

bak
01-25-2012, 04:51 PM
cast that s is solid. the rest needs that roundness n structure
dos - geez, keep practicing

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y150/cruzchuy/IMG00254-20120125-1434.jpg

trying new styles

ehh its too blehh
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y150/cruzchuy/IMG00255-20120125-1436.jpg

bak
01-25-2012, 04:54 PM
leaf i gotcha. check the exchange thread

Phat 2
01-25-2012, 05:13 PM
dos, don't bite the famous throwup font

Skadeem
01-25-2012, 10:13 PM
Mok shit's kinda weak(hypocritical) but it doesn't look like everything else. I'd tighten up that k first off though.

Fuck run that second one

home.grown.twinkie
01-26-2012, 01:01 AM
5221952220
Criticism is Welcomed. Don't be too harsh yo, At least I'm getting up. The first one is Green Montana, Orange Montana, Red Montana, White Krylon, and Black Krylon. The second is Baby Blue All City Acrylic with All City Black Acrylic, and the Drops are Brown All City Acrylic with Black All City Acrylic outline.

PREA672
01-26-2012, 01:04 AM
1st and Only tip. Stop using montana, buy cheap shit. Your wasting money.

NME_
01-26-2012, 11:45 AM
Only new into this stuff and yes im aware it sucks52238

Friidom
01-27-2012, 02:39 PM
52331

crits welcome. just came up with this new throw today and i dont know if im feelin it. f's are hard

SneeZ
01-27-2012, 02:52 PM
^^ do you write this ᵮɮ?

try keyboard letters, its gonna be better, trust me.

Friidom
01-27-2012, 02:54 PM
actually yes! but nah its supposed to say frii. the i's look too much like s's i know. crits?

MN Nice
01-27-2012, 02:59 PM
Wayyyyyyyyyyyy too many folds. It looks lumpy and dumb. Keep it simple. Try to keep your letters to 1-2 continuous lines each.

Friidom
01-27-2012, 03:00 PM
come to think of it my f looks like a big green turd. alright back to the drawing board

SneeZ
01-27-2012, 03:41 PM
52333

SkateJunt
01-27-2012, 03:45 PM
the attach of the toysssss!!!!!!
this page is pretty dam bad except for Mor, thats fresh, and Fuck yours are okay

SkateJunt
01-27-2012, 03:46 PM
oh and that sneez is tight

Colors
01-27-2012, 04:05 PM
you arent even good skatejunt. but half this page does suck

skinaone
01-27-2012, 04:13 PM
52337
found a couple of cans w.e

Phat 2
01-27-2012, 04:30 PM
what are we all doing pointy bottoms now?

SkateJunt
01-27-2012, 04:53 PM
you arent even good skatejunt. but half this page does suck
i know im not good i was just pointing out that half this page looks like 5 year old crayon art.

Mori
01-27-2012, 05:04 PM
52333
This shit has nice flavor sneez

skinaone
01-27-2012, 05:28 PM
what are we all doing pointy bottoms now?
im not lol

NouveauP
01-27-2012, 09:57 PM
I am. I was an asshole who got high and forgot to spell his own battle word correctly. Pointy bottoms, yo!

http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo20/NouveauP/IMG_0372-1.jpg

SneeZ
01-28-2012, 06:41 AM
Nouveau, always love to see your throws, id appreciate to get some crit form you.
Phat, I was doin pointy bottoms much before you started with your venom thing I just didnt post em.

SkateJunt
01-28-2012, 10:33 AM
trying those new holes out dono if il stick with it
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7146/6776615355_3a1bafc668.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6776615355/)
Picture 222 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6776615355/) by Stewart Stevenson (http://www.flickr.com/people/69411978@N04/), on Flickr

NME_
01-28-2012, 12:37 PM
Just practicing, Im only new and i know its bad but i gotta start somewhere 52429

NouveauP
01-28-2012, 03:59 PM
Thanks a lot, Sneez. Taking a look at the last throw you posted, I think you're forcing style a bit. Your EEZ seems to be structured correctly, but your SN fall off really hard. I'd go a little while trying to make your letters completely proportional (right now they seem a little bottom heavy). I'd take a few steps back and just work on cleeeean cookie cutter styles for a while to get your bearings, then start to experiment and throw little variations in. Keep the ones you like and apply them to other letters to give it a good uniform style.

GERB- I wouldn't use those holes. Or if you do, work on making CLEAN perfect circles. I see you're trying to do a lowercase style. I wouldn't recommend it with the letters you chose. I think GRB look especially good as capitals. You lose a lot of potention with that lowercase g. Look up some GIANT throws for some inspiration to make that letter lowercase. But your throws need a lot of work. Keep at it and fill up some books.

BAKED- Start studying some throws. You're new with a loooong way to go. But yes, we all start somewhere.

Quick one for Sneez. The handies are trash :-/
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo20/NouveauP/IMG_0374.jpg

Phillip McDougall
01-28-2012, 04:08 PM
I am. I was an asshole who got high and forgot to spell his own battle word correctly. Pointy bottoms, yo!

http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo20/NouveauP/IMG_0372-1.jpg

That A is fire! I don't know about that M and R though.

NouveauP
01-28-2012, 04:34 PM
I'm trying to play with new structures in my M's. really difficult letter. No excuse for my R though. Just fell off. Exchange? :)
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo20/NouveauP/IMG_0377.jpg

Phat 2
01-28-2012, 04:49 PM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/416961_364856073541308_100000507545549_1363833_205 7186781_n.jpg

first wall try with the new name

SkateJunt
01-28-2012, 05:02 PM
looks preeeeety nice but you forgot the shadow on the bottom of the letters. some more throwies i was trying today, i m really just trying to find something original that works well
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7170/6778510219_2016a4959b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6778510219/)
Picture 223 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6778510219/) by Stewart Stevenson (http://www.flickr.com/people/69411978@N04/), on Flickr

XyleneRenegade
01-28-2012, 08:49 PM
52465

sadgeh
01-29-2012, 03:57 AM
GERB - you forcing it too much let it loose and flow will find you.

skinaone
01-29-2012, 10:43 AM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/416961_364856073541308_100000507545549_1363833_205 7186781_n.jpg

first wall try with the new name
oh helllll no
fuck that M
try a new style see waht happens

Grim93
01-29-2012, 12:54 PM
not posted here before but here is a few of my throwies crits welcome :D

52564
52565
5256652567

master of seductions
01-29-2012, 01:02 PM
cap + cope 2 = capo?

clean throws but those lower case a

Grim93
01-29-2012, 01:05 PM
nah it was a reference to the fact i wear a cap/hat everyday but didnt wna bite straight from cap

dankbudz
01-29-2012, 03:21 PM
critics appreciated
mainly on the R..

Colors
01-29-2012, 03:29 PM
that r needs to be fixed. basically everything except the r and d seem good to me. the d would look good without that wavy thing in the middle

Phat 2
01-29-2012, 07:25 PM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/416961_364856073541308_100000507545549_1363833_205 7186781_n.jpg

first wall try with the new name

bumping on to the new page for more crits, hopefully this time from someone who's not a complete retard.

gemer
01-29-2012, 07:29 PM
phat looks pretty good im liken this name but the n' i think the seconed bubble part on it is to phat compared to the rest lol u know wut i mean? also how come you never finished the 3d

NouveauP
01-29-2012, 08:07 PM
Phatty- I'm gonna have to say you should scrap this. The points on the bottom aren't really working. The VE aside from the bottoms is decent. The rest of the letters are lacking badddd. Page for fun

http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo20/NouveauP/IMG_0385-1.jpg
And one for myself.
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo20/NouveauP/IMG_0386-1.jpg

Norfsuthr
01-29-2012, 11:32 PM
damn nouv those are lookin good

phat your om needs the most work, ven looks ok minus the bottom.

lil one liner for fun
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7167/6787480475_fb5c13bc40.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/52108332@N02/6787480475/)
oie_3062720PFTU851X-1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/52108332@N02/6787480475/)

BEASTOR
01-30-2012, 06:56 AM
sup? any crits on my throws? thanks. SEDGE ZE

52630

52631

skinaone
01-30-2012, 03:30 PM
@phat2 your throw is a complete retard

skinaone
01-30-2012, 03:34 PM
more of this

Phatty- I'm gonna have to say you should scrap this. The points on the bottom aren't really working. The VE aside from the bottoms is decent. The rest of the letters are lacking badddd. Page for fun

http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo20/NouveauP/IMG_0385-1.jpg
And one for myself.
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo20/NouveauP/IMG_0386-1.jpg

less of that


bumping on to the new page for more crits, hopefully this time from someone who's not a complete retard.

SkateJunt
01-30-2012, 06:22 PM
crits on the throws in this pic? been trying new shit out
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7032/6792579933_a7289dbe64.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6792579933/)
Picture 229 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6792579933/) by Stewart Stevenson (http://www.flickr.com/people/69411978@N04/), on Flickr