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BORG
05-26-2007, 08:04 PM
yeah, post that shit

ras
05-26-2007, 08:10 PM
for sum reason..my posts aint goign thru..
i think im unbanned..

ugh...

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z248/amkah/lastscan-4.jpg

Aces One
05-26-2007, 08:15 PM
stickers stencil and posters etc...isnt that for stickers stencils and posters, my stuff is sketches and shit, i have all of it uploaded but dont no where to post it on BS

Heres one i jsut took a picture of, dont like my A
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/3716/dscn1860bv9.jpg

BORG
05-26-2007, 08:20 PM
fuck it, post the rest

Aces One
05-26-2007, 08:22 PM
Originally posted by BORG@May 26 2007, 08:20 PM
fuck it, post the rest
haha, god damn im confused. ok, ill do it. here or on the sticker stecils posters etc?

hungr
05-26-2007, 08:59 PM
wanted to show how big the book is that i sketched in
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a365/mct1ts/DSC00427.jpg

BORG
05-26-2007, 09:05 PM
hungr- nice blocks
aces1- where is it?

nickstix
05-26-2007, 09:05 PM
hungr...nice book :P , nice simplesthey flow nicely.

aces...work on simples, and dont add anything thats not needed.

work in progress...
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/nickstix91/ret2.png
crits?

BORG
05-26-2007, 09:08 PM
nickstix- like its simplicity, and color to bring it to life?

Aces One
05-26-2007, 09:14 PM
Ok, well this thread is labeled tot black books and this is the art i have in my black book, if you get pised off at me for posting it here whatever. here it is.

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/6648/002bz2.jpg
some funky rat....
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/6219/005wc5.jpg
Upper Playground...Screwed up the eyes but whatever
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/6105/006qq1.jpg
Mushroom...sorry for the bad angle
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/9750/007xe7.jpg
Another Planet...Didnt no how to finish the head so i made it fall apart
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/7650/008de7.jpg
Driving Insane...This is my favourite of all mine
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8227/009re8.jpg
Fear is The Mind Killer...did this for someone
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/9468/010vh1.jpg
No Reality...Experimenting, not too great

Heres what i got so far, tell me what you think.

Nick - I like your E

BORG
05-26-2007, 09:19 PM
aces1- like the shroom one, and these are called characters man, theres deff a thread for that

dizzle_d
05-26-2007, 09:20 PM
holy shit that mushroom is hot aces...

everything else looks good too

Aces One
05-26-2007, 09:22 PM
everyone seems to like my shroom...ill get a better picture later for you guys, its a really crapy pic. the page is lifted up so it gives it a fucked up angle

Should i post these up in characters or leave em here...?

BORG
05-26-2007, 09:41 PM
aces1- in the character thread, most character writers will help you progress there

Aces One
05-26-2007, 09:43 PM
are you saying i should post em there?

BORG
05-26-2007, 10:17 PM
yes(aces1)

BORG
05-26-2007, 10:17 PM
yes(aces1)

VICEone
05-26-2007, 10:30 PM
woa sick characters aces. shroom is tight

nickstix
05-26-2007, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by nickstix@May 26 2007, 09:05 PM
work in progress...
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/nickstix91/ret2.png
crits?
Bump for crits before i ink it...

crits?

VICEone
05-26-2007, 10:37 PM
i say ink it, its only a sketch and u can neva have enough sketches

BORG
05-26-2007, 10:43 PM
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/5747/psyco1lg3.jpg
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/5005/stoner1qi6.jpg

crits?

Sluts_r_us
05-26-2007, 10:51 PM
finally finished this one...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/bigtymerz108/DSCF1473.jpg

break
05-26-2007, 10:53 PM
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q84/el_giova/IMG_5732.jpg
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q84/el_giova/graff03-1.jpg

VICEone
05-26-2007, 11:14 PM
BORG- nothin bad with those characters, rly artistic abilities u got there man, i like the smokin dude betta tho.

BREAK- both sik man i honestly dont kno why ur postin in the toy section both of u but i guess the other sections are a lil more advanced with all the wildstyle and shit

Sluts r us- awesome style man, how long did that take u

Chalk
05-27-2007, 12:10 AM
threw a sumoe style drop shadow on this one. i used a 50% greyi think maybe a 30% would have been better

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/k_vandal/yellowshad.jpg

BORG
05-27-2007, 12:13 AM
chalk- nice, decently clean, like the colors

whahappen?
05-27-2007, 12:18 AM
Originally posted by VICEone@May 26 2007, 11:14 PM
BORG- nothin bad with those characters, rly artistic abilities u got there man, i like the smokin dude betta tho.

BREAK- both sik man i honestly dont kno why ur postin in the toy section both of u but i guess the other sections are a lil more advanced with all the wildstyle and shit

Sluts r us- awesome style man, how long did that take u
you have no fucking clue what your talking about

~Saoten154~
05-27-2007, 12:24 AM
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/6691/saontunfinishedlr7.th.jpg (http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=saontunfinishedlr7.jpg)
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/8803/santmj4.th.jpg (http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=santmj4.jpg)
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4894/oldenglishsaontrx6.th.jpg (http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oldenglishsaontrx6.jpg)
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/6756/saontunfinshed2gn9.th.jpg (http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=saontunfinshed2gn9.jpg)
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/381/saontuc7.th.jpg (http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=saontuc7.jpg)
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5470/saontunfinshed3vs5.th.jpg (http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=saontunfinshed3vs5.jpg)
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/7009/saontttjl8.th.jpg (http://img516.imageshack.us/my.php?image=saontttjl8.jpg)

click on them theyll be bigger....there not amazing but there the best i got... any advice or crits?

trashhh
05-27-2007, 06:28 AM
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h194/trashhh_/sketches/STA41078.jpg

I took the flick at an angle by accident its not actualy slanting down

drop one.
05-27-2007, 08:25 AM
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h40/chris_22_/DSC00530.jpg

bountyhunter113
05-27-2007, 08:27 AM
trash-not feelin all em add-ons n stuff, makes it chaotic imo

[breakout]-azer
05-27-2007, 08:41 AM
trash- nice love all them add on but mayby a cuple to meny.

here is a sketch i just did crits???
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z145/breakout-azer/STA60018.jpg

Samp1e
05-27-2007, 08:48 AM
trash -- shit is hot. got an issue with balance though, the T is huge towards the topleft and the H doesn't have that same balance on the topright. crisp though :)

bountyhunter113
05-27-2007, 08:52 AM
ya,sample didn't he alrdy explain y it's slanted?

rise-the lower part of the e is too long

[breakout]-azer
05-27-2007, 08:54 AM
cheers bounty

G - Wahl
05-27-2007, 08:57 AM
Originally posted by VICEone@May 26 2007, 11:14 PM
BREAK- both sik man i honestly dont kno why ur postin in the toy section both of u but i guess the other sections are a lil more advanced with all the wildstyle and shit

please let this be sarcasim..
if its not, honestly, just quit wrighting...forever

Samp1e
05-27-2007, 09:14 AM
Originally posted by bountyhunter113@May 27 2007, 08:52 AM
ya,sample didn't he alrdy explain y it's slanted?

rise-the lower part of the e is too long
the slant isn't the issue with the balance. the H's right side (if the picture wasn't slanted) would still not be on par with the T's left. there is negative space up there.

BORG
05-27-2007, 09:29 AM
Originally posted by G &#045; Wahl+May 27 2007, 08:57 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (G - Wahl @ May 27 2007, 08:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-VICEone@May 26 2007, 11:14 PM
BREAK- both sik man i honestly dont kno why ur postin in the toy section both of u but i guess the other sections are a lil more advanced with all the wildstyle and shit

please let this be sarcasim..
if its not, honestly, just quit wrighting...forever [/b][/quote]
he was being serious

[breakout]-azer
05-27-2007, 09:34 AM
Originally posted by [breakout]&#045;azer@May 27 2007, 08:41 AM
trash- nice love all them add on but mayby a cuple to meny.

here is a sketch i just did crits???
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z145/breakout-azer/STA60018.jpg
bump- didnt get meny constructive crits???

~RAVE~
05-27-2007, 09:39 AM
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j285/Kawasaki72/DSCF0003-10.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j285/Kawasaki72/rave-2.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j285/Kawasaki72/DSCF0004-9.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j285/Kawasaki72/DSCF0008-2.jpg

BORG
05-27-2007, 09:40 AM
rave-these pics turned out good this time, lovin the blackbook, great styles,flow, and color schemes

~RAVE~
05-27-2007, 09:46 AM
thanx. i was useing my scanner befor but it suks, so i used my camera.


thanx again, the 2nd and forth one are ol skool styles from nyc

freakeenyc
05-27-2007, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by freakeenyc@May 26 2007, 06:47 PM
thats pretty cool bro....im sure a lot of ppl would find that helpfull
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/884/cimg6741ii0.jpg
bumped fer critz

bojangles
05-27-2007, 10:12 AM
Originally posted by BORG@May 26 2007, 06:45 PM

[QUOTE=BORG,May 25 2007, 07:52 PM]
<in time lapse form ;)
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/6332/step1qd8.jpg
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/618/step2rp2.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/841/step3bl3.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/9263/step4na6.jpg

keep gettin skipped, crits?
Borg, your handstyle ruins the sketch, exept for that i like &#39;em..i reckon, for your handstyle, you should keep the letters the same size and make em have more flow

ras
05-27-2007, 10:17 AM
Borg...you really need to concentrate on letters..
Rave...pretty decent..

so a euro inspired peice..

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z248/amkah/111111111111111111111111111.jpg

the yellow AMK is gonna be my next peice..

bouncingsoul
05-27-2007, 10:26 AM
Freak, my favorite is that simple between the 3d and the blocks. Do more like that

"popular warfare" wack W... That&#39;s why I put popular under it lol
Ignore the top hah, I didn&#39;t write that

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g314/poopdepants/IMG_0766.jpg

:edit: Realized I missed some 3d... I will tend to that immediately

tonentink
05-27-2007, 10:39 AM
whats going down wid our battle borg???

BORG
05-27-2007, 10:41 AM
tonentink- that shits hard to see man

[breakout]-azer
05-27-2007, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by &#045;azer+May 27 2007, 09:34 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>[b]QUOTE (-azer @ May 27 2007, 09:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-&#091;breakout
-azer,May 27 2007, 08:41 AM] trash- nice love all them add on but mayby a cuple to meny.

here is a sketch i just did crits???
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z145/breakout-azer/STA60018.jpg
bump- didnt get meny constructive crits??? [/quote]
bump 4 crits

BORG
05-27-2007, 11:36 AM
no offense, throw that shit in the trash, work on a new one

cess!
05-27-2007, 12:10 PM
^shit, i remember those days
hows this look
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b213/cenoceno/HPIM2258.jpg

BORG
05-27-2007, 12:12 PM
:huh: psychotic

BORG
05-27-2007, 12:14 PM
Originally posted by tonentink@May 27 2007, 10:39 AM
whats going down wid our battle borg???
msfyt is gunna post it, dont know when but she will

hungr
05-27-2007, 12:17 PM
Originally posted by trashhh@May 27 2007, 06:28 AM
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h194/trashhh_/sketches/STA41078.jpg

I took the flick at an angle by accident its not actualy slanting down
your stuff is usuall pretty good the one thing i can suggest in my opinion that doesnt look that great which im pretty sure you do on most of your pieces is the way the front part of the R is using part of the T but is completley unattached to it, although i cant check right now im pretty sure thats the only place this happens in your piece (ie everythinmg else is connected)

edit: ok just checked and its not the only place this happens except it is very apparent on that part...it sticks out...

o ya this is near at my brothers house btw

cant.die.alive
05-27-2007, 01:32 PM
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g121/coercethemasses/DSC03207.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g121/coercethemasses/DSC03208.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g121/coercethemasses/DSC03210.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g121/coercethemasses/DSC03209.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g121/coercethemasses/DSC03211.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g121/coercethemasses/DSC03212.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g121/coercethemasses/DSC03213.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g121/coercethemasses/DSC03214.jpg

BORG
05-27-2007, 01:44 PM
cantdiealive- like the 1st one the most, good flow and extension

Socrates
05-27-2007, 02:00 PM
alive is the sex
and mr alive owes me a sketch :)

uhhh
05-27-2007, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by nickstix@May 26 2007, 09:05 PM
hungr...nice book :P , nice simplesthey flow nicely.

aces...work on simples, and dont add anything thats not needed.

work in progress...
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/nickstix91/ret2.png
crits?
your improving so much&#33;
a few of those are kidna wack,
but wow,
the basic letters are actually pretty nicee.

alive-that last caer sketch is ncie as fuck,
good to see you using extensiosn that dont complteely suck.

knewsie- :wub: for fucking real.

bunique209
05-27-2007, 02:02 PM
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c305/bunique209/tagg.jpg

emokid
05-27-2007, 02:34 PM
alives looking good, liking the c&#39;s and a&#39;s the most.

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/9030/dscn6502nw9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

name two features of a limestone pavement.
anyone?

Jank
05-27-2007, 02:48 PM
clints n grikes baby. haha commented on it in that other thread somewhere.

uneek i&#39;d try n keep the letter width consistent. maybe make them all a lil bit fatter. but the bits that stick out are the Es. they have all these diff widths.. dont really work. not too bad tho. just try n make it all a bit smoother.. less harsh n jaggedy maybe

Dream Creation
05-27-2007, 03:07 PM
it erodes with rain? emo kid nice odd i like it

buique less bars more simple ?? instead of bending with an extra bar just bend the original bar but rumember to keep it width the same all the way round if u do this

-ShAmEE-
05-27-2007, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by cant.die.alive@May 27 2007, 06:32 PM
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g121/coercethemasses/DSC03207.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g121/coercethemasses/DSC03208.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g121/coercethemasses/DSC03210.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g121/coercethemasses/DSC03209.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g121/coercethemasses/DSC03211.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g121/coercethemasses/DSC03212.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g121/coercethemasses/DSC03213.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g121/coercethemasses/DSC03214.jpg
bump this G.

u toys out there this is this the shiz.

-ShAmEE-
05-27-2007, 03:15 PM
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u86/ShAm33/sw1.jpg

Dream Creation
05-27-2007, 03:33 PM
nice

Dream Creation
05-27-2007, 03:39 PM
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/7408/basicsbd9.png (http://imageshack.us)

am i ready for extension i know like i dint put them in a strate line and there is slite hight difference but 24 hours no sleep make methink cba but where do i go with my letters now?

TricksForKids
05-27-2007, 03:47 PM
shame , keep workin with that, it looks like its goin somewhere

Dream, those already are extensions, lose some of the things on the bottom of the c, and make your lines real clean and itll be nice and sexy,

your e on the other hand is just too "pointy" for my liking, its got some nice structure obviously, but yeah, dont be afraid to fuck around with your letters some more

im battling krazzie in like a week, but i just freestyled the word "LAUGH" to get an idea of what imma sketch

anyways, the battles in black and white, crits?:

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/8665/laughvi0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Dream Creation
05-27-2007, 03:53 PM
ty alot trick ive been seeking crits like that for a wile lol

-ShAmEE-
05-27-2007, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by TricksForKids@May 27 2007, 08:47 PM
shame , keep workin with that, it looks like its goin somewhere

Dream, those already are extensions, lose some of the things on the bottom of the c, and make your lines real clean and itll be nice and sexy,

your e on the other hand is just too "pointy" for my liking, its got some nice structure obviously, but yeah, dont be afraid to fuck around with your letters some more

im battling krazzie in like a week, but i just freestyled the word "LAUGH" to get an idea of what imma sketch

anyways, the battles in black and white, crits?:

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/8665/laughvi0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
yh i hope it is going somewhere good.

i like ur shizz. at least u&#39;ve gon somewhere.

colour?....think banana yellow, baby pink.

beauitful

BIGel
05-27-2007, 03:55 PM
tricks i dig except the a the thin part of it throws the piece of. otherwise i like it.

alive is bringin the heat..dude went and took everybodys advice and started adding and look at that shit. great stuff. the c in the middle sketch is bangin.

http://tn3-1.deviantart.com/fs17/300W/i/2007/147/9/9/wild_child_by_bigel.jpg
http://ic3.deviantart.com/fs16/i/2007/147/3/e/i_turned_into_graffiti_wtf_by_bigel.jpg
http://tn3-2.deviantart.com/fs17/300W/i/2007/146/6/f/uhhh___budget_report__by_bigel.jpg
http://ic1.deviantart.com/fs17/i/2007/145/2/c/home_means_nevada_by_bigel.jpg

brought the last one out of retirement :)

FenoneTdB
05-27-2007, 03:57 PM
FIRE, nuff said that shit is tight, respect bigellllll

kurug3n
05-27-2007, 04:17 PM
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/6397/dsc02143yy1.jpg

crits por favor

Aces One
05-27-2007, 04:18 PM
BIGel, like the first piece the best.
Tricks, badass, dont like the A much though. i always have problems with A&#39;s.

Dream Creation
05-27-2007, 04:22 PM
bigel put shoes on&#33; :P

~Saoten154~
05-27-2007, 04:23 PM
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/9265/saontunfinishedaf5.th.jpg (http://img508.imageshack.us/my.php?image=saontunfinishedaf5.jpg)
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/7320/saontunfinshed2ik6.th.jpg (http://img508.imageshack.us/my.php?image=saontunfinshed2ik6.jpg)

i dont know where to go with this its suppoed to say saont but i dont know what to do... need help anyone???

bountyhunter113
05-27-2007, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by Dream Creation@May 27 2007, 04:22 PM
bigel put shoes on&#33; :P
lol...........the chars look like their legs were cut off :blink:

Dream Creation
05-27-2007, 04:41 PM
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/5572/1039og7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

i did wat was sed wat ya think ?

~Saoten154~
05-27-2007, 04:43 PM
still looking for help...

Dream Creation
05-27-2007, 04:47 PM
saoten make u letters simpler for now ok? and keep them of 1 style

TricksForKids
05-27-2007, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by &#045;ShAmEE&#045;+May 27 2007, 03:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (-ShAmEE- @ May 27 2007, 03:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-TricksForKids@May 27 2007, 08:47 PM
shame , keep workin with that, it looks like its goin somewhere

Dream, those already are extensions, lose some of the things on the bottom of the c, and make your lines real clean and itll be nice and sexy,

your e on the other hand is just too "pointy" for my liking, its got some nice structure obviously, but yeah, dont be afraid to fuck around with your letters some more

im battling krazzie in like a week, but i just freestyled the word "LAUGH" to get an idea of what imma sketch

anyways, the battles in black and white, crits?:

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/8665/laughvi0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
yh i hope it is going somewhere good.

i like ur shizz. at least u&#39;ve gon somewhere.

colour?....think banana yellow, baby pink.

beauitful [/b][/quote]
bump, hot shit bigel, you really gotta make a character for me with a little banner that says bawk... :D

saoten, listen to dream and go back to simple letters

the C&#39;s looking better dream, but you still gotta work on the actual curve of it, the little extenions are pretty nice actually, just the way the whole thing moves at its curve needs a bit of work

as for the e, still needs quite a bit i dont like how thheres just a line to show space, gives it a bad throwup feel, try actually separating the bottom bar from the letter

cant.die.alive
05-27-2007, 05:30 PM
Originally posted by &#045;ShAmEE&#045;+May 27 2007, 03:13 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (-ShAmEE- @ May 27 2007, 03:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-cant.die.alive@May 27 2007, 06:32 PM
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g121/coercethemasses/DSC03207.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g121/coercethemasses/DSC03208.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g121/coercethemasses/DSC03210.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g121/coercethemasses/DSC03209.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g121/coercethemasses/DSC03211.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g121/coercethemasses/DSC03212.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g121/coercethemasses/DSC03213.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g121/coercethemasses/DSC03214.jpg
bump this G.

u toys out there this is this the shiz. [/b][/quote]
bump. tricks waddaya think.



i like urs, but the right side of the A got floppy. i love the circles. the L shouldnta slanted up like that, it b/c all the other letters land flat. but u know ur dope. i think u should get crazzzzzzzier

nickstix
05-27-2007, 05:34 PM
alive...your letter flow is really nice, i would like to see your work in a piece sometime with full color.

tricks...dope, youve got a really unique style.

dream...pretty nice simples. but not all of the 3d is pointing in the same direction. other than that keep sketchin.

added 3D and inked it...
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/nickstix91/ret3.png
my first time trying to fade colors(in the 3D)

crits?

BORG
05-27-2007, 05:39 PM
retn- the turn out was descent, i think it woulda looked better black n white

Sumoe
05-27-2007, 05:56 PM
Alive-huge improvement bro, those freestyle joints are on point...extensions go perfectly with the letters on pretty much all of them...bout&#39; time you got more complex. :P :)

BIGel-you bring heat every time you post, shit is dope homie.

Bawk- it&#39;s hot, and that "G" is dope. Love the circles too.

and a bump for lack of a flick.


Originally posted by Sumoe@May 25 2007, 07:14 PM
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/1940/dsc0721ja9.jpg

whahappen?
05-27-2007, 06:04 PM
shits wack go back to simples
use bars

TricksForKids
05-27-2007, 06:05 PM
ooo alive, that one where the letters are all separated in green is fresh as hell, join up and do one outline with a nice fat pen or something, i wanna see a finished product, but your letters got some sexy ass flow to them now, props


nick, that KAY 10 you did for the battle is still my favourite from you, i dont like squiggles and arrows you added in this one, but your letters are still nice and simple, keep pluggin away

sumey sumey sumey, fresheezy of course

sex without condoms
05-27-2007, 06:45 PM
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/AlexheartsJennifer/P1010003-5.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/AlexheartsJennifer/IMG00015.jpg
im mad bored.

~RAVE~
05-27-2007, 06:56 PM
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j285/Kawasaki72/rave-2.jpg

giganticCrane
05-27-2007, 07:05 PM
hey, just trying a new style. any feedback?
http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i691444_newstyle.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com)

i didnt use a ruler, and i did it in about 2 minutes, so yea... its sloppy as hell. any advise or anything to change before inkin?

~RAVE~
05-27-2007, 07:10 PM
uhh.....i aint trying to be a bitch like some people are on here but go simple before that, trust me&#33;

scoot
05-27-2007, 07:12 PM
its not that bad.. probally would be better if it had a 3-d behind it.. or maybe not

BORG
05-27-2007, 07:15 PM
i agree with rave, also calm down and dont take it to chaotic yet

giganticCrane
05-27-2007, 07:17 PM
yea, i usually do go simple, but it doesnt hurt to do some crazy shit. gotta practice sometime, right?
i made it 3-D and started to do an outline, but scanned it first.
http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i691497_newstylestage2.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com)

~RAVE~
05-27-2007, 07:19 PM
what ever floats your boat man, i love old skool but acasinally i will do a spanish wildstyle. i guess your rite, i hope to see some more simple stuff tho.

~Saoten154~
05-27-2007, 07:19 PM
thanks dream creation

giganticCrane
05-27-2007, 07:22 PM
yea, i&#39;ll post somethin simple in a few minutes... thanks for the advice though, at least your not a dick about it.

BORG
05-27-2007, 07:24 PM
the 3d on that one isn&#39;t half bad, put more time into the lettering now

~RAVE~
05-27-2007, 07:27 PM
where you from.

~Saoten154~
05-27-2007, 07:37 PM
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/3162/saonthw9.th.jpg (http://img184.imageshack.us/my.php?image=saonthw9.jpg)


is this what you guys ment by simple?

cant.die.alive
05-27-2007, 07:38 PM
no. use blocks. if u dont know what they are, check the new2graff thread.

Deadpoolzer0
05-27-2007, 07:46 PM
I havent been posting ish in a while...too many pages to go back and crit..so i will get ppl on this page...
gigantic crane...ummm yeah..relax it down a lil bit cuz that stuff is going every sorts of porportions....
and saotin...use blocks cause the way your doing it now it just looks like you took a wieght on the boottoms of the letters...blocks will help...
some of me now...
S is screwed up on minehttp://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u78/deadpoolzer0/DSC04845.jpg
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u78/deadpoolzer0/DSC04841.jpg
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u78/deadpoolzer0/DSC04842.jpg
more to come...

ASB_ONE
05-27-2007, 07:49 PM
just a page of rambles

props to cear, tricks and pear over last couple of pages shits rele stood out.

losing extensions focusing on letters didnt rele pay off in this sketch:

lost my way home while exploring the galaxy, uk heads shud know about that&#33;&#33;

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r104/asb_one/SP_A0387.jpg

BORG
05-27-2007, 07:49 PM
deadpoolzer- nice n simple, try and use a variety of o&#39;s

~RAVE~
05-27-2007, 07:50 PM
looks good except for the t. color it&#33;

BORG
05-27-2007, 07:51 PM
guest- that shits hot, the 3d design is fuckin trippy

giganticCrane
05-27-2007, 08:01 PM
came out lookin&#39; shitty, but whatever.
http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i691664_simplerane.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com)

Deadpoolzer0
05-27-2007, 08:02 PM
EDIT: Rave i still say use proportions first..and the structure of your letters need a lil help too....the r&#39;s leg is way too small and the top of the e is HUGE...just work with proportions..
guest i like it all cept for maybe the heavyiness of the t and the e&#39;s leg maybe...not sure...
and yes i realize nice and simples....unless your actually sying its Nice and also simple.....then i wont be so heated lol...i did some other shit a while back with feo and something else...just random letters....filled in the stole one to..but it didnt turn out good..
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u78/deadpoolzer0/DSC04848.jpg
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u78/deadpoolzer0/DSC04856.jpg
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u78/deadpoolzer0/DSC04857.jpg

BORG
05-27-2007, 08:04 PM
the stole one looks good with color

Deadpoolzer0
05-27-2007, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by BORG@May 27 2007, 08:04 PM
the stole one looks good with color
thanks bro....have you done any new sketches lately or have i missed them in previous pages?

giganticCrane
05-27-2007, 08:07 PM
deadpool: that first one is sick, all the stuff you say you dont like i think is pretty good. its a good simple design but i dont like the S. it&#39;d look good in paint though.

~RAVE~
05-27-2007, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by Deadpoolzer0@May 27 2007, 08:02 PM
EDIT: Rave i still say use proportions first..and the structure of your letters need a lil help too....the r&#39;s leg is way too small and the top of the e is HUGE...just work with proportions..
guest i like it all cept for maybe the heavyiness of the t and the e&#39;s leg maybe...not sure...
and yes i realize nice and simples....unless your actually sying its Nice and also simple.....then i wont be so heated lol...i did some other shit a while back with feo and something else...just random letters....filled in the stole one to..but it didnt turn out good..
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u78/deadpoolzer0/DSC04848.jpg
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u78/deadpoolzer0/DSC04856.jpg
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u78/deadpoolzer0/DSC04857.jpg
thats the oldskool style. and dont tell everyone whats wrong when you have problems to sort on your ohn :D

BORG
05-27-2007, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by Deadpoolzer0+May 27 2007, 08:06 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Deadpoolzer0 @ May 27 2007, 08:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-BORG@May 27 2007, 08:04 PM
the stole one looks good with color
thanks bro....have you done any new sketches lately or have i missed them in previous pages? [/b][/quote]
yeah, i&#39;ll get the most recent, and i got one in the toy battle

Deadpoolzer0
05-27-2007, 08:10 PM
Originally posted by ~RAVE~@May 27 2007, 08:08 PM
thats the oldskool style. and dont tell everyone whats wrong when you have problems to sort on your ohn :D
Yeah, well I know I have lots of things to work on...But you shoulda seen my old shit before I started using bars... -_- it was sad and horrid..so i used bars and proportions and its helping out tons lol

BORG
05-27-2007, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by BORG@May 26 2007, 06:45 PM

[QUOTE=BORG,May 25 2007, 07:52 PM]
<in time lapse form ;)
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/6332/step1qd8.jpg
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/618/step2rp2.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/841/step3bl3.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/9263/step4na6.jpg

keep gettin skipped, crits?
for deadpoolzer

~RAVE~
05-27-2007, 08:12 PM
cool. i used bars, for a whille, but they get boring so i would add curves and arrows and bars and whatever now i am better

Deadpoolzer0
05-27-2007, 08:13 PM
^wow man...thats some nice ish...i really like the green tips to it...i gotta learn how to get that down for my round robin piece...

Edit...then is the stuff you posted old?

BORG
05-27-2007, 08:15 PM
its easy, thanks
thats a piece for an up and coming battle

~RAVE~
05-27-2007, 08:22 PM
yo borg you and meyne battle got a bee old skool

BORG
05-27-2007, 08:26 PM
aight, i&#39;m not into oldschool at all but i&#39;ll give it a go

giganticCrane
05-27-2007, 08:27 PM
http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i691771_simple.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com)

tried to get real simple, takin your advice. proportionate, and such.

~RAVE~
05-27-2007, 08:28 PM
hahahaha the poll will have to hav more than just you and me.



go to stylewars.com and go to trains or go to google and search 149th street and youll see it. then go to artists, check em out

bountyhunter113
05-27-2007, 08:32 PM
yo,some unfinished shit........it&#39;s all sketchy coz my eraser sucks so i stopped usin it

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l93/bountyhunter114/DSCN0085.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l93/bountyhunter114/DSCN0082.jpg

rane- take the arrow of the n
morn-geesh,remove all that swirly stuff

scoot
05-27-2007, 08:34 PM
meh

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/bodycount/meh.jpg

BORG
05-27-2007, 08:34 PM
get some more ppl then and i&#39;ll pm u mine when i get to it

giganticCrane
05-27-2007, 08:37 PM
scoot: even that shit out. i see that your making the end of the N smaller on purpose, and that&#39;ll look good. but damn, the rest of the letters should be at least somewhat even. not really a bad idea you have going though.

TricksForKids
05-27-2007, 08:39 PM
cut down the talking...use your message box.

ASB , its nice homie, i like that other even simpler guest more though, mad love

scoot, the bars idea is coller, but lose those weird ass nipples on the ends of your letters lol

bounty, that animals cool, more detail though

bountyhunter113
05-27-2007, 08:40 PM
"bounty, that animals cool, more detail though"

i know it needs more detail,that&#39;s why i said i posted unfinished stuff.......gonna post the finished version and ton of new stuff tomorrow,ty tho dude

any comment&#39;s on my unfinished "s".....lol

scoot
05-27-2007, 08:41 PM
lol nipple..

thanks for the crits ill take it all into consideration next time i hit the book

TricksForKids
05-27-2007, 09:04 PM
yeah scooot, and all your letters tilt, i ahve that problem when i write without lined paper, dont be afraid to put a straight line with a ruler in the middle of your page, helps alot, and if anyone says "its toy to use a ruler for that" slap them in the face and slam their arm in car door.

and bounty, didnt read the caption, but yeah, that S needs work, looks like a lame font from some bad nintendo game. lol

~RAVE~
05-27-2007, 09:12 PM
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j285/Kawasaki72/ravee.jpg


just finished for the oldskool battle with borg

bountyhunter113
05-27-2007, 09:14 PM
Originally posted by TricksForKids@May 27 2007, 09:04 PM
and bounty, didnt read the caption, but yeah, that S needs work, looks like a lame font from some bad nintendo game. lol
haha,thanks for the critz yo

BORG
05-27-2007, 09:21 PM
rave- nice, u shoulda balanced out the color scheme though, too much feminine colors

Stim
05-27-2007, 09:22 PM
Originally posted by ~RAVE~@May 27 2007, 09:12 PM
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j285/Kawasaki72/ravee.jpg


just finished for the oldskool battle with borg
damn that joints hard man.

glass
05-27-2007, 09:44 PM
nice rave, nice and simple wit a sick fill. my only thought is the R looks to me like it should be a bit bigger

bouncingsoul
05-27-2007, 09:47 PM
My favorite one I&#39;ve done so far... I&#39;ll do the 3d sometime

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g314/poopdepants/IMG_0767.jpg

"warfare"

Sumoe
05-27-2007, 09:49 PM
dizzope.

giganticCrane
05-27-2007, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by BORG@May 27 2007, 09:21 PM
rave- nice, u shoulda balanced out the color scheme though, too much feminine colors
haha, fuck that. rockin&#39; those colors, pink and purple and shit may be feminine but they look dope as hell.

VICEone
05-27-2007, 10:02 PM
Originally posted by giganticCrane+May 27 2007, 09:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (giganticCrane @ May 27 2007, 09:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-BORG@May 27 2007, 09:21 PM
rave- nice, u shoulda balanced out the color scheme though, too much feminine colors
haha, fuck that. rockin&#39; those colors, pink and purple and shit may be feminine but they look dope as hell. [/b][/quote]
ya man how culd there be feminine colors, just cuz girls typically like those colors
dont mean ya cant use em when u write. if a color is feminine it has a pussy and tits. <_<

BORG
05-27-2007, 10:05 PM
i use alot of feminine colors but i&#39;ll atleast use a pistachio green or sumthin with them

TricksForKids
05-27-2007, 10:07 PM
Originally posted by bouncingsoul@May 27 2007, 09:47 PM
My favorite one I&#39;ve done so far... I&#39;ll do the 3d sometime

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g314/poopdepants/IMG_0767.jpg

"warfare"
bump past your pistachio green and pussy pink talk.

fresh.

uhhh
05-27-2007, 10:26 PM
Originally posted by bouncingsoul@May 27 2007, 09:47 PM
My favorite one I&#39;ve done so far... I&#39;ll do the 3d sometime

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g314/poopdepants/IMG_0767.jpg

"warfare"
i love this.
so fucking much.
you have my favorite style in the toys forum.

~RAVE~
05-27-2007, 10:37 PM
Originally posted by VICEone+May 27 2007, 10:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (VICEone @ May 27 2007, 10:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by giganticCrane@May 27 2007, 09:56 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-BORG@May 27 2007, 09:21 PM
rave- nice, u shoulda balanced out the color scheme though, too much feminine colors
haha, fuck that. rockin&#39; those colors, pink and purple and shit may be feminine but they look dope as hell.
ya man how culd there be feminine colors, just cuz girls typically like those colors
dont mean ya cant use em when u write. if a color is feminine it has a pussy and tits. <_< [/b][/quote]
hey colors are colors, bor we will have everyone decide on it when we have the battle.






OHH YAH&#33; up coming battle. it must be oldschool PM the pic to me if you want to be in it

AteskOne
05-27-2007, 10:46 PM
Originally posted by VICEone+May 27 2007, 10:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (VICEone @ May 27 2007, 10:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by giganticCrane@May 27 2007, 09:56 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-BORG@May 27 2007, 09:21 PM
rave- nice, u shoulda balanced out the color scheme though, too much feminine colors
haha, fuck that. rockin&#39; those colors, pink and purple and shit may be feminine but they look dope as hell.
ya man how culd there be feminine colors, just cuz girls typically like those colors
dont mean ya cant use em when u write. if a color is feminine it has a pussy and tits. <_< [/b][/quote]
pussies are pink and so are most nipples...if you ask me that&#39;s all i need to be convinced that pink is a feminine color.

besides the fact you dont know what you&#39;re talking about. all borg was saying was he should have thrown in a complimentary color (such as pistachio green) to make the warmer colors pop. feminine wasnt exactly the right word to use but pink is feminine and a pistachio green would help it out nicely.

rave...i&#39;m really feeling that shit. the fill is amazing and your simples have improved soooo much it&#39;s rediculous. the only thing i would say is basically what borg said. there are too many warm colors in there. throw in some green in the next force feild you do. should set it off just right.

~RAVE~
05-27-2007, 10:56 PM
thanx man. oh yeah and if pink is feminen, then i think green is two because i know a girl who died her pubic hair freen and shaved a part off and got a tattoo of a stick figure moaing the lawn, so green is feminen too. :D thanx for the compliments evryone.

BORG
05-27-2007, 10:56 PM
^^mind reader

enigmatic
05-27-2007, 10:58 PM
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m7/enigmaticdawg/100_2178.jpg
well what do yall think of da outline?

KNEWS i dont like that WARFARE nearly as much as your other stuff.

BORG
05-27-2007, 11:00 PM
enigmatic- looks good, how bout some 3d to fill neg space and some color to bring it to life

sex without condoms
05-27-2007, 11:11 PM
Originally posted by sex without condoms@May 27 2007, 06:45 PM
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/AlexheartsJennifer/P1010003-5.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/AlexheartsJennifer/IMG00015.jpg
im mad bored.
bump for being overlooked.
and for some sheet i just did.
i hope im not at the bottom of a page.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/AlexheartsJennifer/0527072327a.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/AlexheartsJennifer/0527072327.jpg
FOR CHEU&#33;
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/AlexheartsJennifer/0527072326.jpg
(sorry i sucked teh cock at H&#39;s so much bby)

BORG
05-27-2007, 11:13 PM
sexw/outcondoms-i like the last one the most

scoot
05-27-2007, 11:17 PM
i fucked this one up ..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/bodycount/meh2.jpg

AteskOne
05-27-2007, 11:19 PM
edit* at sexwithoutcondoms
hey babe&#33;&#33;&#33; where you been nukka? loving the throwies and the handstyles even more.

i gotta question for you though fosale...if you&#39;re from jersey (which happens to be a little ways south of where i live)...how come you rock a euro type style? just curious that&#39;s all. do other cats from jersey rock a euro style as well?

eso239
05-27-2007, 11:24 PM
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f105/shaggydopeg/Picture104.jpg

new style

scoot- the bars thing is tight just make it even and keep sketching

edit for better pic and crit
cess- drop it all except the e and just go simple

Stim
05-27-2007, 11:33 PM
knews- very sick i like the randomization
enigmatic- letter structure seems pretty good
fosale- all very stylish and cool

and atesk, i&#39;m from north jersey. it&#39;s more about flash and ghetto styles around here. we have alot of grimey rock and roll type writers too, but not much euro.

scribble scribble scribble

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/8273/pic1053ag8.jpg
been working on structure

EDIT- eso can you get a better pic of that? i cant tell if its good or not.

sex without condoms
05-27-2007, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by sex without condoms+May 27 2007, 11:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (sex without condoms @ May 27 2007, 11:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-sex without condoms@May 27 2007, 06:45 PM
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/AlexheartsJennifer/P1010003-5.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/AlexheartsJennifer/IMG00015.jpg
im mad bored.
bump for being overlooked.
and for some sheet i just did.
i hope im not at the bottom of a page.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/AlexheartsJennifer/0527072327a.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/AlexheartsJennifer/0527072327.jpg
FOR CHEU&#33;
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/AlexheartsJennifer/0527072326.jpg
(sorry i sucked teh cock at H&#39;s so much bby) [/b][/quote]
bump this sheeeeeet, new page&#33;
and for atesk&#39;s question
i don&#39;t rock a certain style(imo)
when i started first i started using curly bars instead of hard sharp bar as most people and it evolved into a "euro" style i guess.
idk
its my stylee babeh

cess!
05-27-2007, 11:46 PM
kind of a cool style, i like the orange and red shit you gutta nice street style
im not sure about all that i love you shit tho , seems pretty gay to me
anyways heres sumin
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b213/cenoceno/HPIM2273.jpg
Nels

scoot
05-27-2007, 11:47 PM
its a manly love

Edward"Sezer"Hands
05-27-2007, 11:50 PM
Originally posted by cess&#33;@May 27 2007, 11:46 PM
kind of a cool style, i like the orange and red shit you gutta nice street style
im not sure about all that i love you shit tho , seems pretty gay to me
anyways heres sumin
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b213/cenoceno/HPIM2273.jpg
Nels
throw that shit away cess, the s looks like a damn seahorse.
I&#39;ve seen your characters and i know you have pretty good potential in all together art, but it seems like you never fully apply yourself to your letters, start simple man i know you can do alot better than that.

BORG
05-27-2007, 11:51 PM
sezer hands- agree, not your best cess

scoot
05-27-2007, 11:56 PM
the "L" looks like the outline of a monkey...

cess!
05-28-2007, 12:08 AM
im a lazy motherfucker

BORG
05-28-2007, 12:46 AM
cess- your throwies is where its at, keep producing

Sc0PE-834-TAT
05-28-2007, 01:23 AM
Just some throwies and attempted wildstyle

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g206/cubs2315/hititup.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g206/cubs2315/hititup1.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g206/cubs2315/hititup1001.jpg

ne crits?

BORG
05-28-2007, 01:29 AM
scope- 3rd one has potential, try to make it simpler with some blocks and get rid of some of the extensions

break
05-28-2007, 04:42 AM
been workin on ma letters crits?
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q84/el_giova/break.jpg
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q84/el_giova/lastscan.jpg

d_g
05-28-2007, 04:58 AM
Cess, take it back a notch bro, but your &#39;S&#39; does look like a pretty cool seahorse.


Any comments before I ink and add some shit to it. Just realised how bad the &#39;K&#39; is.

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r267/denimg/Graff/sketch38.jpg

Meh.

break
05-28-2007, 05:00 AM
like the style man

heav
05-28-2007, 06:59 AM
Originally posted by Sc0PE&#045;834&#045;TAT@May 28 2007, 01:23 AM
Just some throwies and attempted wildstyle

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g206/cubs2315/hititup.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g206/cubs2315/hititup1.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g206/cubs2315/hititup1001.jpg

ne crits?
throwie r lookin gd but

KILL THAT WILDSTYLE AND THROW IN DA BIN

basix work on ur letter shapes STICK TO SIMPLES SIMPLES SIMPLES SIMPLES

if u rub out everything apart from the letters ull c wat i mean...

get good at simples b4 u try nethin crazy k?

keep sketchin, listen to crits and ull improve fast gogogogogo

Sumoe
05-28-2007, 08:15 AM
lmao...trying to bite Cope2...c&#39;mon man, Scope? and then repping TAT, ha.

trashhh
05-28-2007, 08:26 AM
i also spy a seen S and E in the throws

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z248/amkah/111111111111111111111111111.jpg
sketch someone i know did.. any crits for himm

dizzle_d
05-28-2007, 08:43 AM
I&#39;m not likin the lfc part, but thats about it.
fresh as hell&#33; damn..... :rolleyes:

Sumoe
05-28-2007, 08:46 AM
Originally posted by trashhh@May 28 2007, 08:26 AM
i also spy a seen S and E in the throws

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z248/amkah/111111111111111111111111111.jpg
sketch someone i know did.. any crits for himm
hmmm, I wonder who this could be...

bountyhunter113
05-28-2007, 09:07 AM
he&#39;s improving, but wut&#39;s up wif the random wording around it?

-ShAmEE-
05-28-2007, 09:09 AM
Ras says..

i posted on saturday....it said the pos was being " reviewed " by a moderator....yet...it still aint been posted yet...

how long does this go on for...?...

and could a mod please pm me saying when my " post reveiwing " is over..

thanks alot

bountyhunter113
05-28-2007, 09:11 AM
wut he get banned for?

o ya,i&#39;ll post some new shit later

Dream Creation
05-28-2007, 09:12 AM
ras u from manchester?? cos the euro culture festival was yesterday and today (the graffiti is AMAZING)

-ShAmEE-
05-28-2007, 09:17 AM
Originally posted by bountyhunter113@May 28 2007, 02:07 PM
he&#39;s improving, but wut&#39;s up wif the random wording around it?
Ras says :..

i got banned for poast whroing ...
yet..
there is BORG with 90 posts today..
aaha

aswell as him and Rave taking up about..5 pages of the toy black book thread...
and what about Atesk too...
he post about 50 a day..
and never posts pictures..
and when he does get banned
he just creates a new account..

its rediculous

this post was brought to you by RAS.

South-Pole
05-28-2007, 09:35 AM
c&#39;mon unban ras,even if he was a post whore atleast he posts pics and give crits imo,oh for ras,im only liking the first letter/left side of the piece.im not feeling the lfc part but ras improved well though

bojangles
05-28-2007, 09:46 AM
scope..take a shit on that wildstyle attempt, it sucks cock, exept for that the bubble letter throws are much better and keep it simple

ras
05-28-2007, 10:03 AM
sowwee mods... :( ..
and all the people i have pissed off.. :(
im a new kid &#33; :)
Scope...cumon mate...Seens E n S...S&#39;Cope..and repping TATS...damn
soo..sum shit...

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z248/amkah/111111111111111111111111111.jpg

and huuuuuuuuuge handy

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z248/amkah/1111111111111111111111111111111111.jpg

erm...for a battle..

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z248/amkah/lastscan-4.jpg :rolleyes:

Sumoe
05-28-2007, 10:09 AM
the last one is one of the best sketches I&#39;ve seen from you...imo.

ras
05-28-2007, 10:39 AM
Originally posted by ras@May 28 2007, 03:03 PM
sowwee mods... :( ..
and all the people i have pissed off.. :(
im a new kid &#33; :)
Scope...cumon mate...Seens E n S...S&#39;Cope..and repping TATS...damn
soo..sum shit...

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z248/amkah/111111111111111111111111111.jpg

and huuuuuuuuuge handy

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z248/amkah/1111111111111111111111111111111111.jpg

erm...for a battle..

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z248/amkah/lastscan-4.jpg :rolleyes:
wow...that deserves a bump..

im gonna do that same sketch..again..but colour..and add sum euro flair to it..
cuz us eurp writers..
tear shit up..
hardcrore

cant.die.alive
05-28-2007, 10:42 AM
hahaha. ras is back. weve come full circle.

bountyhunter113
05-28-2007, 10:42 AM
here&#39;s an S,i&#39;m jus tryin to get one letter down at a time
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l93/bountyhunter114/DSCN0086.jpg
critz plz

ras
05-28-2007, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by cant.die.alive@May 28 2007, 03:42 PM
hahaha. ras is back. weve come full circle.
i dont get you.. :(

Bounty...use bars..damnit...like so a straight up bar simple S..only way to get down a letter..
and that " random wording " ... is to add effect to my stuff..okay

im soo happy right now..
Ekto a legend in England said he liked that yellow peice..
whoa..

oh Alive..
please stay around on 12oz... :( :)

bountyhunter113
05-28-2007, 10:49 AM
lol,screw bars.........i&#39;ll post more later



k,thnx sumoe,much better den last time rite?

Sumoe
05-28-2007, 10:49 AM
Originally posted by bountyhunter113@May 28 2007, 10:42 AM
here&#39;s an S,i&#39;m jus tryin to get one letter down at a time
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l93/bountyhunter114/DSCN0086.jpg
critz plz
good structure, clean it up a bit and make the lines straighter.

whahappen?
05-28-2007, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by enigmatic@May 27 2007, 10:58 PM
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m7/enigmaticdawg/100_2178.jpg
well what do yall think of da outline?

KNEWS i dont like that WARFARE nearly as much as your other stuff.
from what i can see the throw at the bottom is so fresh
simples can be so fun
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/1443/picturezg7.jpg

Dream Creation
05-28-2007, 12:01 PM
ras i think u ent to far with the colouring on ur first one
enigmatic fresh cean it up and maybe anther letter?

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/8908/1040cchp3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

c is bit top heavey :P

but wats its verdict ?

ras
05-28-2007, 12:07 PM
True Europeans never go too farwith fills..ahahaha..
Wapeen..that shits funny..that carak is like a throwie karak...so fresh...

and dream..
both letters arnt the same size..

~RAVE~
05-28-2007, 12:11 PM
yo dream, you should have that part on the top of the c point inward instead of out., :)

Stim
05-28-2007, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by Stim@May 27 2007, 11:33 PM
knews- very sick i like the randomization
enigmatic- letter structure seems pretty good
fosale- all very stylish and cool

and atesk, i&#39;m from north jersey. it&#39;s more about flash and ghetto styles around here. we have alot of grimey rock and roll type writers too, but not much euro.

scribble scribble scribble

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/8273/pic1053ag8.jpg
been working on structure

EDIT- eso can you get a better pic of that? i cant tell if its good or not.
bump? i guess i get ignored... fuck bottom of the page.

AnteUp
05-28-2007, 12:18 PM
yeauh&#33;&#33; ras issss back in tha buildin&#33;&#33; how u doin my euro lover? :wub:

~RAVE~
05-28-2007, 12:20 PM
UPCOMING BATTLE OLDSKOOL&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; ANY TAKERS SO FAR ITS ME AND BORG WE NEED MORE




PM ME IF YOU UP FOR IT&#33;

Dream Creation
05-28-2007, 12:22 PM
i know but it was a freestyle in pen so i dnt change it ras :P

bouncingsoul
05-28-2007, 12:36 PM
Just figured I&#39;d post all this here. I&#39;m basically just practicing everything right now- planning on going out sometime soon..

Handies knewsII

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g314/poopdepants/IMG_0768.jpg

Throw ¡knews&#33; Sorry about the insanely shaky flick ahahahaha

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g314/poopdepants/IMG_0769.jpg

...Aaaand, added 3d on this warfare... Ideas on how to fill it? Fucking "full color" rules

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g314/poopdepants/IMG_0770.jpg

scoot
05-28-2007, 12:39 PM
i wouldnt do a full fill on that one i would do more of a faded fill.. like start dark were the letter is and fade to the end of the 3-d&#39;

just my 2 cents

whahappen?
05-28-2007, 12:43 PM
^use green or red bic pens, or a light blue highliter
haha thats what i do
i just got like 10 bic pens red blue and black from this girl so im hella happy...
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/1443/picturezg7.jpg
simples are fun, too bad drop shadow is ghey

Edward"Sezer"Hands
05-28-2007, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by whahappen?@May 28 2007, 12:43 PM
^use green or red bic pens, or a light blue highliter
haha thats what i do
i just got like 10 bic pens red blue and black from this girl so im hella happy...
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/1443/picturezg7.jpg
simples are fun, too bad drop shadow is ghey
try something else.

~RAVE~
05-28-2007, 01:07 PM
agreed

kurug3n
05-28-2007, 01:16 PM
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/6397/dsc02143yy1.jpg

AnteUp
05-28-2007, 01:17 PM
damn bouncin&#33; that throws of tha fuckin pole&#33;&#33; :blink:
and ur handies purrrty tight tooo&#33;&#33;&#33;
EDIT: my answer to all fill questions is do the letters dark blue and 3d light blue (appeals to the eye)

tryin new ish
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t66/AnteUp14/IMG_0214.jpg
CRITS PLEASE

ras
05-28-2007, 01:29 PM
Originally posted by ~RAVE~@May 28 2007, 05:20 PM
UPCOMING BATTLE OLDSKOOL&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; ANY TAKERS SO FAR ITS ME AND BORG WE NEED MORE




PM ME IF YOU UP FOR IT&#33;
hmm..old skool..
if i sketch old skool..
itll bring back sum really bad moments..
Ah..
fuck it..
iam get the OLD SKOOL RAS OUT YALLL
BRB

sketch3
05-28-2007, 01:30 PM
noooooooooooo

~RAVE~
05-28-2007, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by ras+May 28 2007, 01:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ras @ May 28 2007, 01:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-~RAVE~@May 28 2007, 05:20 PM
UPCOMING BATTLE OLDSKOOL&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; ANY TAKERS SO FAR ITS ME AND BORG WE NEED MORE




PM ME IF YOU UP FOR IT&#33;
hmm..old skool..
if i sketch old skool..
itll bring back sum really bad moments..
Ah..
fuck it..
iam get the OLD SKOOL RAS OUT YALLL
BRB [/b][/quote]
so your up for it, pm it to me when your done




sketch3 why you say nooooooooo

Drakula
05-28-2007, 01:35 PM
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k90/dspimage/drakstickers169.jpg

My throw up on paper with some random character.Ignore the bent speech bubble,I didn&#39;t have enough space on the page.Comments?I write Drak by the way.

revolt92
05-28-2007, 01:36 PM
You&#39;ve obviously never met old skool ras.....


Imagine like an extremely busy piece...i mean like a REALLY busy peice...now imagine it on speed.......

whahappen?
05-28-2007, 01:38 PM
Originally posted by Edward"Sezer"Hands+May 28 2007, 01:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Edward"Sezer"Hands @ May 28 2007, 01:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-whahappen?@May 28 2007, 12:43 PM
^use green or red bic pens, or a light blue highliter
haha thats what i do
i just got like 10 bic pens red blue and black from this girl so im hella happy...
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/1443/picturezg7.jpg
simples are fun, too bad drop shadow is ghey
try something else. [/b][/quote]
whats so bad about it besides the drop shadow

~RAVE~
05-28-2007, 01:40 PM
the last letter has a hole on it wtf

ras
05-28-2007, 01:41 PM
YES YES YALL
Just for kciks..

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z248/amkah/q.jpg
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z248/amkah/w.jpg
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z248/amkah/e.jpg
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z248/amkah/r.jpg
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z248/amkah/t.jpg
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z248/amkah/lastscan-6.jpg

ahaha..
all these was done September - december..

ahaha..these was the days Alive Trcicks..ahahahha..damn
PLEASE PLEASE..EVERYONE .. WHEN THEY TELL YAH TO GO SIMPLE..YOU GO SIMPLE &#33;

who thinks i shud get my old skool back out...for this battle..ahahah

~RAVE~
05-28-2007, 01:41 PM
revolt you do oldskool?

sketch3
05-28-2007, 01:42 PM
old skool ras is like ...... hard to describe look in the progression thread

revolt92
05-28-2007, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by ras@May 28 2007, 01:41 PM
YES YES YALL
Just for kciks..

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z248/amkah/q.jpg
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z248/amkah/w.jpg
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z248/amkah/e.jpg
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z248/amkah/r.jpg
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z248/amkah/t.jpg
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z248/amkah/lastscan-6.jpg

ahaha..
all these was done September - december..

ahaha..these was the days Alive Trcicks..ahahahha..damn
PLEASE PLEASE..EVERYONE .. WHEN THEY TELL YAH TO GO SIMPLE..YOU GO SIMPLE &#33;

who thinks i shud get my old skool back out...for this battle..ahahah
BUMP&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

And rave, old skool? i dont even write

ASB_ONE
05-28-2007, 01:46 PM
old school sucks........time to crawl out from under your rock and look at how bombed it is.

whahappen?
05-28-2007, 01:47 PM
Originally posted by ~RAVE~@May 28 2007, 01:40 PM
the last letter has a hole on it wtf
its an e with an eye

ras do it the piece will be awesome
bump i guess..
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/1443/picturezg7.jpg

sketch3
05-28-2007, 01:47 PM
yo asb wats gwanin wth our battle?

~RAVE~
05-28-2007, 01:48 PM
revolt-O

~RAVE~
05-28-2007, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by ASB_ONE@May 28 2007, 01:46 PM
old school sucks........time to crawl out from under your rock and look at how bombed it is.
SEE thats how everyone looks at graffiti these days, oh ae lets go slap a throwie that takes 2 minutes, maybe not even that to complete, and you can do them everywhere, i do that. but its even better to do a a nice peice here and there, i guess the only good place to find peices now a days is on the trains. <_<

ASB_ONE
05-28-2007, 01:55 PM
sketch check your pm bruv.

rave: i duno if thats a poke at the general worlwide graff scene at the moment or a statement to show how skilled you are at contradicting yourself?

an old flik guna do some canvases of this kinda stuff:

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r104/asb_one/SP_A0386.jpg

bouncingsoul
05-28-2007, 01:58 PM
"Woo, I&#39;ma go oldschool&#33;" You guys are fucking dolts

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g314/poopdepants/IMG_0771.jpg

Yeah, so I didn&#39;t take anyone&#39;s advice... What can ya do, hah

ASB_ONE
05-28-2007, 02:00 PM
&#39;this guy is a wrrrrreeeeeecking machine&#39; supafly shit holmes BSC&#33;&#33;

Edward"Sezer"Hands
05-28-2007, 02:45 PM
ras is still a bitch.
knews- keep it up, nothing to really say bout it.
Just messing around with letters.
pesk
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e276/DannyHartu/IMG_1961.jpg
some handies
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e276/DannyHartu/IMG_1958.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e276/DannyHartu/IMG_1959.jpg
freestyle marker character
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e276/DannyHartu/IMG_1957.jpg

C3ZR ONE
05-28-2007, 02:45 PM
Bouncingsoul- I like that sketch alot. You&#39;re really taking on a Euro feel. I&#39;d like to eventually see something that isn&#39;t ballpoint. Color and all.



Okizoo crew baby. Rockin all 4 elements from Okinawa to Seattle. :wub:
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/2705/im000705ss1.jpg
http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/9127/im000704iu6.jpg

ras
05-28-2007, 02:58 PM
WOW ^ INCREDIBLE :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh: :o :o :o

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z248/amkah/1e.jpg

W.I.P..

Gonna finish for tonight
stay tuned

:real scale cans:

hahaha lol

Stylz
05-28-2007, 03:25 PM
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g228/becerrcm/05-27-07_1401.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g228/becerrcm/05-27-07_1402.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g228/becerrcm/05-27-07_1357.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g228/becerrcm/05-27-07_1356.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g228/becerrcm/05-27-07_1353.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g228/becerrcm/05-27-07_1351.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g228/becerrcm/05-27-07_1350.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g228/becerrcm/05-27-07_1349.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g228/becerrcm/05-27-07_1348.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g228/becerrcm/05-27-07_1347.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g228/becerrcm/05-27-07_1346.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g228/becerrcm/05-27-07_1343.jpg

suggestions

Drakula
05-28-2007, 03:30 PM
^That is not toy,Everything is on point.The style is excellent and the character is totally original

Anyways heres another picture:http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k90/dspimage/DSCN7255.jpg

"draks"

Chalk
05-28-2007, 03:32 PM
C3ZR ONE - dooooope

just some simples ran out of room for the K

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/k_vandal/simpor2.jpg

emokid
05-28-2007, 03:34 PM
dracula, i can only hope you&#39;re being sarcastic...? if not, you dont know shitttt mate. you and stylz both need to go back to simples, go read new2graff thread.

take a leaf out of chalks book :)

C3ZR ONE
05-28-2007, 03:35 PM
Drakula- Don&#39;t tell people they aren&#39;t toy untill you yourself can post in the main blackbook thread. No beef, but your judgement is likely handicapped by your lack of knowledge about letter structure. I give you both an A for effort, and the sketches are all nice to look at in the toy blackbook thread, but they are still far from "not toy". ;)

Chalk- That&#39;s real fresh kid. The K is kinda lost, but overall, pretty sweet.

wiserism
05-28-2007, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by Sc0PE&#045;834&#045;TAT@May 28 2007, 01:23 AM
Just some throwies and attempted wildstyle

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g206/cubs2315/hititup.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g206/cubs2315/hititup1.jpg

ne crits?
i kno im late but does any1 else think dat this "scope" isnt just bitin cope cause of the name but the letters in the throw (crossin out the e) nd than took a seen "s"

qway
05-28-2007, 03:40 PM
messy
http://media.newschoolers.com/uploads/cache/images/1180384517-507644-600x302-1180384516IMG_1609.jpg

glass
05-28-2007, 03:41 PM
where is the attempted wildstyle there?

chalk: love those simples dude

MR3___DOP
05-28-2007, 03:42 PM
the only cope2 look alike is the c, he does his o and p different
that does look like a seen S and E

i&#39;ve only been writing 2 weeks heres something i drew for my mom
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/pokeman2/artartart/Picture002-1.jpg

Sumoe
05-28-2007, 03:44 PM
haha, 2 weeks my ass...looks good but the letters are too hidden and there seems to be too many pointless extensions.

qway
05-28-2007, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by glass@May 28 2007, 03:41 PM
where is the attempted wildstyle there?


i don&#39;t understand the question

glass
05-28-2007, 03:51 PM
oh sorry dude i was referring to the quoted piece above you

qway
05-28-2007, 03:54 PM
thats what i thought

-Sinn-
05-28-2007, 03:57 PM
Chalk - Its so clean u kick ass

TricksForKids
05-28-2007, 04:02 PM
Drakula, listen to what ceez says, your shit needs to go way simpler

chalk, the CHAL in the red sketch is so fly and simple

as for the yellow one, still needs a bit of work, but youre hella progressing

qway, lose some of those random extensions, theres letters there, but youve got way too much going on

now i know im still toy too, but i figured id give you all some hope, i found an old sketch of mine, let the laughter begin:

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/1676/speckzka8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

dim
05-28-2007, 04:04 PM
stylz- nice matr bit on that sixth pic
http://www.torontokills.com/usergallery/di...rch&cat=0&pos=4 (http://www.torontokills.com/usergallery/displayimage.php?album=search&cat=0&pos=4)
visit site to see what i mean

TricksForKids
05-28-2007, 04:13 PM
too bad thats not matr...^ lol

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/1295/toysphorummp9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

i got bored....holla if i forgot your ass

ras
05-28-2007, 04:17 PM
Trick..AHAHAHAHAHAHA
MR3 DOP..wow..

UPDATE &#33;&#33;

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z248/amkah/1r.jpg

Fill colour ideas ?..Tricks..?..

AyteYourCookies
05-28-2007, 04:19 PM
thats dope im lovin the fill,

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u55/str8gangsta_01/Picture183.jpg
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u55/str8gangsta_01/Picture180.jpg crits?

ras
05-28-2007, 04:24 PM
W00000T i just noticed that MY NAME IS UNDERLINED ON BAWKS HANDYS..OH YUUR :P :P :P :P :P

thanks cookies...im feeling your shit too..keep up that style..

Fluffy Bunnies
05-28-2007, 04:27 PM
Originally posted by TricksForKids@May 28 2007, 04:13 PM
too bad thats not matr...^ lol

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/1295/toysphorummp9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

i got bored....holla if i forgot your ass
you forgot me... or do you hate me :(

Sumoe
05-28-2007, 04:28 PM
if he forgot you he hates you...bitches.

;)

D Snif
05-28-2007, 04:32 PM
Originally posted by MR3___DOP@May 28 2007, 03:42 PM
the only cope2 look alike is the c, he does his o and p different
that does look like a seen S and E

i&#39;ve only been writing 2 weeks heres something i drew for my mom
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/pokeman2/artartart/Picture002-1.jpg
yeah, that&#39;s why joined November of 05, huh?

emokid
05-28-2007, 04:36 PM
awwwwww tricks you wrote my name&#33; :)

ras that fill is pretty trippy

-ShAmEE-
05-28-2007, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by TricksForKids@May 28 2007, 09:13 PM
too bad thats not matr...^ lol

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/1295/toysphorummp9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

i got bored....holla if i forgot your ass
tricks. i have 2 E&#39;s (unless it not me). but ur a legend so one will do. :wub:

Drakula
05-28-2007, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by C3ZR ONE@May 28 2007, 03:35 PM
Drakula- Don&#39;t tell people they aren&#39;t toy untill you yourself can post in the main blackbook thread. No beef, but your judgement is likely handicapped by your lack of knowledge about letter structure. I give you both an A for effort, and the sketches are all nice to look at in the toy blackbook thread, but they are still far from "not toy". ;)

Chalk- That&#39;s real fresh kid. The K is kinda lost, but overall, pretty sweet.
Yeah you&#39;re right,I&#39;m too inexperienced at the moment to judge others.And thanks for the feedback on my last post,I&#39;m trying to experiment with different styles at the moment and then find a definite
one that I can use.I&#39;m having most trouble with the A at the moment,I&#39;ve always found vowels hard.

ras
05-28-2007, 04:47 PM
EMOKID...wat does Trippy mean..?..bad...?..

and Shamee...Get your arse on MSN... <_<


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