Blackbooks

[TaxThis]

sorry for not knowin... to the rest of you.

[B.S. POLICE]

you still dont get it...man are you like a crack baby or something?! shit

[TaxThis]

im done with this goof.

[B.S. POLICE]

no problem kid good luck getting any help now you fucking clown


edit. It took you 25 minutes to do that pencil two letter?! you MUST be a crack baby

[TaxThis]

like i said im not scared to admit im a toy.

[B.S. POLICE]

see theres two kinds of toy, theres the kid that just started and is a toy. and then theres a kid who sucks and has no respect thats a toy.

your #2

[TaxThis]

like i said i show respect when i get respect.
what makes u diffrent from me?
your not a crack baby? thats the only thing. get fucked.

[B.S. POLICE]

alright, i see waht your saying. just do me a favor and show me when I didnt show YOU respect and ill apologize

[TaxThis]

its past that now budd

[Cyto Aka Son1c]

http://i26.tinypic.com/ek3g5x.jpg

outline for a battle with lucid

bump

[B.S. POLICE]

its past that now budd

no, no its not. you keep repeating i respect those that respect me, while YOU were the one to start beef with ME first you fucking dumbass. i never said shit to you until you started being a little e gangsta trying to bark up the wrong fuckin tree.


cyto i see you homie sorry for the chit chat, lose the extentions and youll be straight

[Tapn]

i know give crits to get crits im not very knowledgeable but

lucid: im not feelin that attachment in the lower left of the C or the c's position to the rest of the letters like overlapping the u and part of the i.

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj166/b-runge/Photo-0248.jpg

i know this sucks bad, o literally did it in one minute, but any crits for my printout box van throwie with awesome bubbles?

[remos]

lmfaoooooo taxthis stfu bs police is right your making yourself look stupid just stop
tapn look at your keyboard and use bars, i know its shit but its worth it in the end

[TaxThis]

u think i give a shit what a bunch ppl say about me on the net?
lmfao u guys are fuckin comedy. i love the hate *****aas
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e155/dc12/IMG000076.jpg
lil somthin for talkin, i wont talk with out a flick any more.

[VaNdAL xBA!x]

nice cyto u deff stepped your shit up

[TheMurderousMisterMero_]

u think i give a shit what a bunch ppl say about me on the net?
lmfao u guys are fuckin comedy. i love the hate *****aas
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e155/dc12/IMG000076.jpg
lil somthin for talkin, i wont talk with out a flick any more.

you talked all that shit and this is what you bring to the table???

http://www.forumammo.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10063/gtfo~4.jpg

[StayHyE]

http://smiliesftw.com/x/smiley-rofl.gif

[La Coka Nostra]

u think i give a shit what a bunch ppl say about me on the net?
lmfao u guys are fuckin comedy. i love the hate *****aas
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e155/dc12/IMG000076.jpg
lil somthin for talkin, i wont talk with out a flick any more.


FSU?
are you serious? lol.

[TaxThis]

i told everyone im not a king. i dont care im toy as fuck but id still whoop your ass and tag your face faggots.

[TheMurderousMisterMero_]

im toy as fuck

word.

[VaNdAL xBA!x]

haha
just stop it tax
mero that shit mad me giggle inside

[TaxThis]

whoo tha fuck are u to tell me what to do u fuckin skid

[Thrice]

On-going sketch
http://i31.tinypic.com/f36olk.jpg

[hazetheone]

everyone up in this bitch is toy as fuck. stop ganging up on other toys who talk some toy bullshit. let those toys be toy and talk internet shit. there was a day when the toy thread was peaceful and everyone knew their place but now...... now its just shitty graffiti artists talking shit about other graffiti artists who are more or less shitty. god damnit

[TaxThis]

he's kinda right in a way.

[Thrice]

^Amen.

[TaxThis]

nice sketch btw its killin.

[TheMurderousMisterMero_]

he's 100% right.you should all be ashamed of yourselves.i just enjoy trollin.whats your excuse?

[TaxThis]

shut the fuck up, god damn. u just enjoy trollin ur moms pussy.
fuckin bitch.

[TheMurderousMisterMero_]

lol that was the lamest shit i ever heard.i swear you must be 12.no one else would think thats was an acceptable comeback.

[hazetheone]

heres where they both make themselves look completely retarded......

[TheMurderousMisterMero_]

heres where they both make themselves look completely retarded......

we reached that point about 3 pages back hazey.your late.

[Stussy]

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/6282/photo919.jpg
thrice- your letters seem to have the wiggles for no reason. letters arn't bad just keep working on it. get it more solid
Mero- you suck! simples simples simples! i kid i kid... that throw a couple pages back looks good.

[TheMurderousMisterMero_]

complete shit stussy.kill your self with a hatchet.then post it on youtube so i can watch it again and again and agian for my entertainment.

[TaxThis]

rayz that shit is ballin, im done talkin shit sorry for ya'll who had to witness, wanna beef with me pm me.

[Stussy]

e fame?

[TheMurderousMisterMero_]

stussy is the next an hero.

[TaxThis]

more like e tard

[hazetheone]

http://i41.tinypic.com/ir2tlk.jpg
old pic
this is a whole page of talking....................

[TheMurderousMisterMero_]

the e seems abit out of place.and imo fucks up the flow entirely...like the other shit you posted tho in the intermediate...

[hazetheone]

http://i25.tinypic.com/2pob0gz.jpg
gonna color it tomorrow

[Mr yarbles]

Your bars the cross the a you know the middle bar
They just look not right
You should open them on the sides instead of just making them square

also noone should listen to meroe he's an idiot
Tax is way better then you mero you know it give it up
Geez.
I mean what kind of name is mero anyway?
more like fagoe

PWNED

[Azul]

like it kurse, i feel like the extra loop on the bottom of the "E" should be up top tho next time. i like your coloring. it's basic but sophisticated.

Cheers I used highlighters, very hard to blend >.<

[Skribe1]

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b371/danksmoke/Dankle.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b371/danksmoke/2009-07-07221133.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b371/danksmoke/2009-07-06203752.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b371/danksmoke/piece1.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b371/danksmoke/2009-07-09012610.jpg

[iselldope]

hahaahahahaha you suck

[iselldope]

use bars bitch

[trowel]

Stussy:
Top throwie:
No offense to you because you execute cleanly in the sketch, but...don't use the same style everyone else is using. Im seriously sick of those east coast style throwies...everyone seems to be doing them...at least come up with "some" variation to the letters.
Bottom:
Clean, but still a little trendy.

Haze:
Again, the MSK style is getting a little played from everyone using it...same old shit just on the west coast...doesnt look to bad...but it is a little trendy...

Skribe:
i actually like this the best, only because you are clearly just trying what ever comes to mind. Though the skill level is no where near the same, i still prefer this. You should work on simple letters...You'll probably hear that a lot but if you don't understand letter structure you cannot create your own correctly.

I appreciate seeing the flicks opposed to a bunch of ass clowns bickering about each others periods...

Good shit guys...Keep sketching...

[DUNSY]

Scribe -> Simples
Haze good stuff but i personally dont like the E in the first sketch, would like to see them colored tough
stussy, i like the throwie and i think you know your simples but you just tried something else on that bottom one

o and everyone please stop bitching,trolling,e-thuggin, and 4chan speak just be friendly and try to give good advice.



Ol' English :D
http://i29.tinypic.com/10oflsk.jpg

[diggitydoggz]

skribe, they all suck except the last one which is actually pretty damn clean. work on that style more and then gradually get more complex.

[CrustOner]

It's obvious the last one isn't his. It's a printed sticker from Bombingscience.

[B.S. POLICE]

http://i25.tinypic.com/2pob0gz.jpg
gonna color it tomorrow

bump this

[iselldope]

that's dope

[Thrice]

on-going sketch
http://i31.tinypic.com/f36olk.jpg

bump

Haze-I want to see that painted, nice man.

[VaNdAL xBA!x]

Damn thrice whats goin on seems like you never improve youve been around long enough to learn the basics atleast

[weakfingers]

Stussy, I really like how you dident dot the R.
Dunsy, Im not feeling it,To spaced out to me.




I'm just planning shit out for a spot im going to, and some crits would be great, The shadow going to one point was a bad choice and i havent tried cracks yet.
http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/tt300/2wayducttape/DSCF9183.jpg

[TheMurderousMisterMero_]

if thats what the spot looks like personally id go with the left side where the ceiling is higher and use that space instead of cramming it all into the area.maybe just rock a throw there.i dont know i cant visualize the place but from what i can see it would look much better if you scaled it down and rocked it in the high ceiling...work with the space you got.remember that.






sorry for all the fighting guys....but i mean,he was soooo easy it was just to much.you should have read what he wrote me in the PM's omg it was soooo lame.haha.but im done now.

[Thrice]

Damn thrice whats goin on seems like you never improve youve been around long enough to learn the basics atleast

Heh i know, i have alright sketches here and there, just don't spend enough time on it. Current E im trying to work a style around.
http://i25.tinypic.com/33a8j12.jpg
Aug style for fun
http://i31.tinypic.com/dniq7n.jpg

[weakfingers]

Yeah, I know what your saying, I definatly drew the spot alot bigger then it really is. But I wanted to do it really out of proportion. Another idea I had is to make it looked like it was squished then its coming out super big. but yeah here's what the spot looks like.
http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/tt300/2wayducttape/Shell_Park0.jpg

[TheMurderousMisterMero_]

yeah i think it would look better if you utilized the bigger space...

[iselldope]

or take the wall on the left,believe me it's better

[VaNdAL xBA!x]

yaa idk from that pic that doesnt look like a very big wall unless you got some nice can control then go for it but i would go with the wall to the left

[Kayn.]

Ok, so Ive been sketching about 2 weeks, give me your thoughts on improving or whatever

[hazetheone]

loose every extra bit of anything (extensions arrows etc..) for a few months and get those letters lookin good then begin to color them then you will get a feel for bending the letters and shit later on. but on the real check the new to graff thread and read the first few pages and that should help you on your way

[Kayn.]

loose every extra bit of anything (extensions arrows etc..) for a few months and get those letters lookin good then begin to color them then you will get a feel for bending the letters and shit later on. but on the real check the new to graff thread and read the first few pages and that should help you on your way

k, thanks ;)

[Kaiser71]

Haze...Dope...and clean too...can't wait to see it colored....
THRICE..you've gotta ditch those little tails that fold back on the ends of your letters. I used them everywhere for a while too, and it never looks good in my opinion.
SQUINT: I like your letters, but agree that maybe the other part of the wall would work better.

Anyways. Friends dad asked me if I'd do an ancient egypt theme on his wall if he bought me paint. So I started fucking around with an Egypt page...here's what I got so far....


http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k280/IanIsBored2000/downsized_0709091900.jpg
Crits?

[LeaksOne]

you should make your colors more egyptian. like brownish colors just to match the theme

[Kaiser71]

^^Thought about it...and might still when I paint it...but I kinda wanted it to stick out from the boring browns and shit too.

[BigBlueViolence]

I agree, kaiser.
The pink makes it pop.

[LeaksOne]

fair enough

[BigBlueViolence]

One thing, though.
Your R is missing a good portion of it's leg,
and your S is the only letter with an arrow.
Those things kind of stand out, in my opinion.

[Azul]

Haze...Dope...and clean too...can't wait to see it colored....
THRICE..you've gotta ditch those little tails that fold back on the ends of your letters. I used them everywhere for a while too, and it never looks good in my opinion.
SQUINT: I like your letters, but agree that maybe the other part of the wall would work better.

Anyways. Friends dad asked me if I'd do an ancient egypt theme on his wall if he bought me paint. So I started fucking around with an Egypt page...here's what I got so far....


http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k280/IanIsBored2000/downsized_0709091900.jpg
Crits?

Here's an Egyptian piece from my home town Brisbane maybe you can be inspired.
http://file042b.bebo.com/6/large/2008/03/08/10/133035676a7095154286l.jpg
http://file039b.bebo.com/9/large/2008/03/08/10/133035676a7095163151l.jpg
http://file041b.bebo.com/9/large/2008/03/08/09/133035676a7095138998l.jpg
http://file039b.bebo.com/2/large/2008/03/08/09/133035676a7095146502l.jpg

[diggitydoggz]

wow that is so vicious....

[iselldope]

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/9795/charliel.jpg

[returned]

http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/returned404/piece.jpg

Crits:
Kaiser- It looks pretty good, if that char was doing something more extreme it would look 10x better
Iselldope- why a unicorn? and its feet should be pointed the same way.

[iselldope]

unicorns are dope,and no he is laying down,horses lay down like that
watch charlie the unicorn on youtube one time and you understand

exchange:
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/4417/earn.jpg

[sprout]

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac99/toddgayeff/Picturevv-2.jpg

[sprout]

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac99/toddgayeff/Picturevv006-1.jpg

[your dad]

looks good for simples ^


some stuff. sorry about the shitty flick
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/8537/photo1taz.jpg

[sprout]

thanx rgb. youre bottum right one (biggest one) is pretty rockin.

[Tapn]

rbg-use bars, your letter structure is even way worse than mine.

[anu-Hiero]

AZUL--->I really like Egyptian stuff...you know hieroglyphics and shit that pic of Anubis is sic!!!

[your dad]

rbg-use bars, your letter structure is even way worse than mine.

thank you but I disagree with you. I've been on this forum for a few years, keeping quiet most of the time, but i've worked my way up from simples to the point where i dont think i need to keep making straight letters anymore...

some older shit from my old name so you see where i'm coming from...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/denialchild8698/IMG_0110-2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/denialchild8698/IMG_0136-2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/denialchild8698/IMG_0131-3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/denialchild8698/IMG_0136-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/denialchild8698/IMG_0110.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/denialchild8698/IMG_0116-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/denialchild8698/IMG_0118-2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/denialchild8698/IMG_0107-1.jpg

sorry for huge images?



i think its time to move on, how else will i learn by doing ONLY straight letters for 3 years? fuck man...

[sprout]

wow . digging a couple of those seft ones.
you should do a new rgb and post it...

[weakfingers]

^^^ I really like the second one, It flows real nice. Have you painted any of that?

[iselldope]

rgb-stop with rgb and start writin seft,do them simples and then try extensions or sumtin but don't go to wild

[HëRbN]

dont go wild. many of your extensions are no bueno. I would say its time to do more complicated stuff that straight bars but dont jump to far ahead.

[Tapn]

yeah sorry your way better, but i see that rgb as a HUGE downgrade
go back to what you used to write some of those look really nice

[iselldope]

or just stick to simples,nobody hates a good simple

[VaNdAL xBA!x]

http://i32.tinypic.com/10rixj6.jpg

[your dad]

thanks all...

i'm not goin back to SEFT cause i dont like the letter combo, i like RGB better for a couple of reasons...but i'm going out tonight (first night writing this name) so i'll post some flicks later on...maybe i'll sketch some more before i go

peace

[proNYNJA]

i wouldnt right RGB peepz might think itza crew

[LeaksOne]

i thought it was

[VaNdAL xBA!x]

http://i32.tinypic.com/10rixj6.jpg

bottom page bump

[your dad]

i wouldnt right RGB peepz might think itza crew

gotta keep the pigs guessin!


RAK that looks good except the R might be a little too disjuncted. i would try merging some of the shapes together so its not a bunch floating around: there are less disjunctions between the other letters which are much easier to read. either that, OR disjunctify the AK so they all match up stylewise.

[VaNdAL xBA!x]

thats an S my friend lol

[BigBlueViolence]

BA!- http://i28.tinypic.com/1pjq5v.jpg

I would personally smooth out the S, the A and K are both nice and smooth, but the S is real jagged.
Also, I'm not sure if it was just because it was a sketch, but I would get rid of the inside lines.
But I mean, you are at the point where you can get along on your own, I'm just dropping suggestions.

[your dad]

thats an S my friend lol

haha my bad. anyway, just pretend i said S instead of R

[VaNdAL xBA!x]

ya ima going to do another sketch i fucked the bottom entension up on my s but i cant earase pen so fuck it but i have alot better way of doin my S
finished it...try to ignore the ugly throw
http://i29.tinypic.com/15p22he.jpg

[seywhat]

big blue hit the head on the nail for that piece for sure. your letters are there, that s was just lackin definition.

[BigBlueViolence]

http://i25.tinypic.com/rwnkgp.jpg

unintentional drips. nib overflowed.

[SafeWay]

yeah think thats all u gotta do really smoothe out that S it'll look hella clean

i just did this, not graffiti, but inspired by mike giant
http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/95/l_7869be87703d442c9d6ee4db33fb1720.jpg

[VaNdAL xBA!x]

thats pretty dope
nice tat design

[TheMurderousMisterMero_]

balls....yeah thats preety dope./

[caerte]

its been a long time since ive been here. i used to post here and watch this thread daily. i probably wont be sticking around this time, but felt like mentioning it. this forum can really help you, but its the hours doodling that does that shit in.

SAK the best advice i can give is youve got too much dead space. your a's got its legs spread wide open, pull that shit in, pull the cross down on them too. your shit is always gonna look watery if you use those big loops for structure, but that could be your thing, youve just gotta do it right.

safeway that shits ill.

yo KNEWS, get at me if you read this, its been mad long.



http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7363/letterssmall.jpg
http://img29.imageshack.us/i/letters2.jpg/
http://img29.imageshack.us/i/letters3.jpg/

[VaNdAL xBA!x]

What you mean look watery?

[caerte]

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/6973/letters2.jpg


http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/9553/letters3.jpg

i mean its not an impacting structure. idunno. its hard to explain. it wasnt an insult

[VaNdAL xBA!x]

i kno it wasnt an insult lol i jus didnt get what you ment but you cant really close the A up it wouldnt look as good crammed together

[iselldope]

who wants to da an simple exchange? i write soner

[VaNdAL xBA!x]

im down ill do it right now jus cuz im bored as shit

[iselldope]

you write sak eh

[VaNdAL xBA!x]

ya im done yours i jus gotta charge my camera real quick

[Shell703]

Dad- You've got some stuff.. I'm liking the 2nd, 5th and Last one. Have you thought of coloring the last one?? I'm trying to see what that would look like.

Big Blue- School me on those throwies. Even if that drip was an accident I still think it looks good.

Safe- that shit is nice

Caerte- maybe if you work with less short lines and replaced them with few longer lines it will clean it up a bit(talking from the sketch, your final with the fills looks straight though).


shell - i like how complex it is, but then again it's computer made.
your style looks interesting but i'd like to see sketches insead.

and that peice said geu, not what i write but i was toying around with differant letters.


shell - theres something your letters are missing, well alot of things. but first check out "bars". they will help.
queezy -- i dont like the mini U, but i like the simple style. clean up your letters a bit tho. and fix that Q

heres my first drawing in a bit.
http://i41.tinypic.com/2r47fbs.jpg
crits?


mants-dope but whats the first letter?
hardwares-thats on point, very nice
queezy-I think a 3d/shadow to just one side would look better, still nice
shell-you should do keyboard letters for a while
jist-sick throwup!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3299/3664675711_f917342f68.jpg
wackness for jers


Here's some more sketches and working with advice given - work on bars, simps, keyboard letters and a cheep ass throwie(I suck at throwies)

Big Ups

[iselldope]

i am ready to,i'm now scanning it

it looks like shit(sadface)

[iselldope]

here it is vandal

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/4844/sakexchange.jpg

[remos]

Double post call the police

[iselldope]

ultrann00berZzz call world of warcraft

[caerte]

iselldope/sak, resize that shit, it is out of control.

shell where is your new work? and sorry, i cannot stand that gesus type style

[VaNdAL xBA!x]

http://i31.tinypic.com/9a3frl.jpg

[iselldope]

i like the son part but the er thing isn't to good

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/4844/sakexchange.jpg


i made this for a girl named gina
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/9780/ginaikr.jpg

[VaNdAL xBA!x]

ya the only letters ive really practiced drawin out of that is the E n S

[caerte]

resize that shit

[Shell703]

That shit didn't post??
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee183/Whispem703/HWIBlueLightBlue.jpg
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee183/Whispem703/WPMThrowiePinkPurpGrnYllw.jpg
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee183/Whispem703/WPMPinkPurp.jpg
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee183/Whispem703/TOEBlkYellw.jpg
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee183/Whispem703/HWISThrowieGreenGrey.jpg
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee183/Whispem703/HWISOrngYellw.jpg

[sketch3]

nice u should ad some crazy strars an shit in green on the yellow background
and keep the with of ur bars about the same lenght

[iselldope]

the toe one is dope and the last one the others are so so,anyone crits oone my sac or gina?

[Shell703]

Big ups on the crits...

I'm liking the colors and the drips on the GINA, but that shit is mad huge- its hard to look at. Trying to look at those handstyles at the bottom though. SAKS pretty sick but the A looks kinda squished inbetween the S and K i'd like to see that A just bursting out, like exploding from center or at least consistent with the S at the beginning. Overlapping is nice too.

I'm not catching the strars?? -Sketch3

[Skribe1]

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b371/danksmoke/bigpieces.jpg

[Crush97]

hey give me some critique
http://img294.echo.cx/img294/9705/creat000122gz.jpg

nice man nice

[JustChillin]

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b371/danksmoke/bigpieces.jpgyea uh..i dont think your a toy.

[BIGdreamSCHEME]

serious?

[LeaksOne]

haha i think he is. his peice is not legible at all and that top sketch the letters need to be defined and behind that fancy fill are weak letters. and that quoted pic crush put up i understand thats sarcasm but what the hell does that say??

[VaNdAL xBA!x]

serious?

super serious unfortunently

[iselldope]

who wants to exchange? i'm bored

[Skribe1]

yea uh..i dont think your a toy.

thanks...i could be a lot better tho...i spent a good 4 hours on those


haha i think he is. his peice is not legible at all and that top sketch the letters need to be defined and behind that fancy fill are weak letters.

yea like he said i need letter work...it is fairly legible tho top"Allocate" bottom"Abort"

[Zarb]

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb33/skateboard23/Photo24-1.jpg
Crits? I feel like my E is out of place, and ideas before I outline it?

[Kayn.]

Ok so a few days ago someone said loose extentions and simplify my stuff, here it is, and also I know everyone says bars an shit is how you get better, and I do believe you, it just seems like I make no progress at all, anyone who can help me on that front with more info, would appreciate

[Kayn.]

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb33/skateboard23/Photo24-1.jpg
Crits? I feel like my E is out of place, and ideas before I outline it?

By looking straight off, the E should be a bit bigger

[Shell703]

KAYN- Go back to the main toy forum page and take a look at the
"NEW TO GRAFFITI? START HERE" Thread and look through that, don't have to read everything but pay attention to where they speak about "bars"-

[BIGdreamSCHEME]

kayn, like the third one best, work with that, start adding shadows and stuff too.
eark, good start, read the new to graff thread for the next steps.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y55/flomar/---/sc00862d98.jpg

battle with metek
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y55/flomar/---/sc00861d50.jpg

baps battle
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y55/flomar/---/sc0085f9e8.jpg

I really needa work on my handies..

[Kayn.]

kayn, like the third one best, work with that, start adding shadows and stuff too.
eark, good start, read the new to graff thread for the next steps.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y55/flomar/---/sc00862d98.jpg

battle with metek
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y55/flomar/---/sc00861d50.jpg

baps battle
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y55/flomar/---/sc0085f9e8.jpg

I really needa work on my handies..

Ì really like that metek, and cheers for the crits, Ill do some handstyles for those, maybe you'll get idea's or something

[Hearr!]

heres my new mini book. strictly for doodles and random little shitlets. heres the cover:
http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww115/hear2/IMG-17.jpg
dusk piece, for a battle... ima probz redo this one.
http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww115/hear2/IMG_0001-8.jpg
yuck throwie...
http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww115/hear2/IMG_0003-5.jpg
and heres my sad attempt at a full pager... *sighs* my sharpies blow...
http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww115/hear2/IMG_0004-2.jpg

OH LOL, this isnt in my mini book, but it was some thing i did... its supposed to be nick jonas. :P
http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww115/hear2/IMG-18.jpg

[PegCityBoy]

yea uh..i dont think your a toy.

i do

[Kayn.]

Someone said work on this one, so I did, crits?

[sprout]

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac99/toddgayeff/Picturevv-3.jpg

[Kayn.]

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac99/toddgayeff/Picturevv-3.jpg

I like it all except for the M

[Stuck]

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k430/Atrik/011-3.jpg
t is slackin cus its a new leter to me

[ESKiMO2]

Not bad at all... the TE & R has a nice flow but the S and O kind of seem jumbled in there. Cover up the S and O with your hand and you'll see how the TER flows together well.

[HalfGangstaShit]

lol i just dug this up from the dark depths of my photobucket account.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/nucleart/davidnaegraffiti1aa.jpg?t=1247543543

[Stuck]

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k430/Atrik/012-1.jpg
i feel this ones a little beter just gota work on the o

[HalfGangstaShit]

/

[PegCityBoy]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3440/3719777012_c5b1445b58.jpg?v=0

zarb - keep workin on it its comin along drop those hooks, ur not catchin fish with ur letters

kayn - yea simps suck, they take time effort and seem pointless but bars are thee most important thing an they will make a difference. shell don't tell him otherwise

BIGdreamSCHEME - looks like your just kinda throwin bends in the bars aimlessly. keep workin on it, your throw need some serious work too it'll come

dusk - i'm not quite sure what to make of your piece, but i think i have that marker is it a copic B63?

sprout keep workin with straight letters before you squiggle em up, + your hand needs mad work jus sit with a marker for like half an hour playin with shit ( not ur dick )

tesor - shits lookin hot

[sprout]

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac99/toddgayeff/Picturevv001-2.jpg

can anyone help me out and write my name.. i need ideas and i dont know any writers where i live.. thanx...

[ESKiMO2]

Simple letters.

[sprout]

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac99/toddgayeff/Picturevv005.jpg

[iselldope]

other one was doper,

[sprout]

thanx iselldope... will you do a quick "skizm" for me??

[sprout]

is the other one simple enough eskimo?? i think its rather boring... if its not could you show me what you mean?? people keep telling me to go simple and i dont know what that means really, i would have to have an example,..

[NoshNosh]

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac99/toddgayeff/Picturevv001-2.jpg

can anyone help me out and write my name.. i need ideas and i dont know any writers where i live.. thanx...

not bad color it in now

[NoshNosh]

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac99/toddgayeff/Picturevv005.jpg

thats real bad

[pornobitelogic]

the S needs work,
the rest is alright.

[VaNdAL xBA!x]

dont listen to these fools sprout that top one is terrible id rather see that bottom simple done correct instead of the other wild one you tryed to do

[pornobitelogic]

i meant the rest is alright for simple block letters and for making decent straight lines.
lol

[sprout]

whats terrible about the top one?
i dont think im gonna get this shit right unless i see some examples.. can anyone help me out???

[VaNdAL xBA!x]

what isnt terrible about it
would you really wanna see that painted on a wall.....i hope not you need to keep doing simples just like that bottom one but keep doing them till you can do them real clean and easy basically till you jus get the hang of your letters structure

[sprout]

can you show me what you mean?

[Epoc]

draw something like this

SPROUT

once you have a handle on that and make ir look nice. then you can start developing your letters a bit with bend, overlap etc.

[Thrice]

Just a letter E because i got nothing else as of right now that is decent.
(I'd add more letters but sturggling to make a style around it, anyone know some writers i should check out for influence? might change into throwie)
http://i27.tinypic.com/120pm41.jpg

[sprout]

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac99/toddgayeff/www.jpg

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac99/toddgayeff/wwww.jpg

[VaNdAL xBA!x]

now take that simple n keep doing it till you get your letters perfect then start fucking with the size of the bars and the curves in the letters

[pornobitelogic]

now its not so bad.
do what vandal said, perfect the simple letters then move to more elaborate shit,

[sprout]

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac99/toddgayeff/Picturevv001-3.jpg

ok.. i fattened out the bars.. now what???

[sprout]

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac99/toddgayeff/Picturevv-4.jpg

some overlap and bends.. i still think my old shit is better...

[TastySesamcrew]

could there PLEASE be a thread for writers that have been doing graff for less than 6 months

[Epoc]

the one with the flattened bars is your best so far. perfection even of that, doesnt come in one sketch.

-your "old" shit is way wacker.

and when we say bend. that usually doesnt mean every single bar. just think kinda of italics. they bend the core support of the letter.

just keep practicing your flattened one a couple times till its comfortable.

the best analogy i can think of is cartoons. to make a cool cartoon char, you need to know how to draw legit noses,chins etc before you can exagerate them. otherwise your trying to exagerate somthing that you dont really have a grasp on in the first place and it turns out like a dook.

[yortseD.eht.hturT.]

Just Some work Crits?

[sprout]

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac99/toddgayeff/Picturevv003.jpg

[BIGdreamSCHEME]

you post too much, work on those for a couple of weeks than post again

[B.S. POLICE]

chill with that scheme homie wants to progress, skizm your last one was solid keep working with that, try to bend the main bar in every letter to match each other to get some flow

[Snew]

just trust everyone when they say to work on your bars.. another route you might want to try is working with your handstyle, and turn it into bars.. thats what alot of peices are based on.. but take whatever route you find easiest and sketch all day..

possible name change..
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f90/goonies3845/Photo90.jpg

any crits?

[Kayn.]

just trust everyone when they say to work on your bars.. another route you might want to try is working with your handstyle, and turn it into bars.. thats what alot of peices are based on.. but take whatever route you find easiest and sketch all day..

possible name change..
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f90/goonies3845/Photo90.jpg

any crits?

I like that alot and also, people said simp it down and add some shadows, crits on this

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/2750/dsc00345dhu.th.jpg (http://img268.imageshack.us/i/dsc00345dhu.jpg/)

[Epoc]

not doing your full name, but hopefully this is good nough for yeh.
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7186/lastscanghd.jpg

[sprout]

thanx man.. anyone else wanna help... more is welcome...

[PegCityBoy]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3440/3719777012_c5b1445b58.jpg?v=0

bump

[VaNdAL xBA!x]

there isnt much more to help you out on my man its graffiti and it takes a whilllle to get those dope letters you want keep drawing and within a year you will see the diffrence
its jus the more you do it the better it will be
keep lookin at other work to see how everythin works and yyou will find your own way of makin it work

[BIGdreamSCHEME]

skizm, just keep practicing
egol, not really feeling the extensions
spam(?), looks cool, post something thats more clear
kayn, use this:
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/8212/tuteo4pn2.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y55/flomar/---/sc001195dc01.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y55/flomar/---/sc0011af9d.jpg

[Kayn.]

My 3d doesnt look wrong to me, is it?

[SrsBizns]

kayn your 3d is fine, work on your letters

[Azul]

skizm- practice more simps maybe try do some throwies as well.
peg- get better pens or actually try to color properly before you post, that shit looks like puke.
lucid- make your bars thicker, especially on the middle part of the I.
kayn- try to make your letters all the same size or at least width.
Egol- all good, probably work on the background.

Some of my recent sketches I'll put up the painted version of the red one up as soon as I get a good picture.
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/5552/jake008.jpg
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8321/jake009.jpg
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2903/jake012.jpg

[VaNdAL xBA!x]

lol you really tryed doin the alphabet as a one liner
well there not workin out to good for ya but that would be a nice battle oneliner alphabet that would be interesting

[Beats_His_Wife]

Just started sketching just trying something out trying to stay with simple bars.
Snew-I like it everything seems pretty balanced
Skizm-take it slow when you rush it, it starts looking bad
Kurse- oneliner alphabet made me lolz
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/1623/lacrosse8.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/)

[TastySesamcrew]

skizm props for the last one, improving at light speed
snew not bad it has a little euro flex but it needs some more flow, play with the bars man you've got simples down, make it more interesting.
pegcity - dope throw man!
bigdream - make your bars fatter it would look better that way
kurse - lol
beats his wife - you shouldn't be saying anything about skizm he's doing better then you, make the bars the same size

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3475/3721248513_14aa4a848b_o.jpg

this is actually a drawing i just did my fillins with photoshop I know my computer skills suck dick. it means ''no beef but chicken jam'' in dutch, I made if for a jam obviously

[Beats_His_Wife]

Tasty- i was trying to make the bars different sizes a little just something different his straight letters are better then mine i was saying when he goes away from that it looks bad, i never claimed to be better.

[Stussy]

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/1539/photo914.jpg
tasty- good lookin shit.
everyone else keep doing those simples

[COBALT]

stussy likin it


everyone else needs to work wit letters the same size not letters that are bigger than eachother...got make our shit floooow

[KNS13]

crits?
http://i457.photobucket.com/albums/qq296/graffitiking13/scan0016-2.jpg

[pornobitelogic]

LOL never do any simple stuff, but heres a quick 5 min sketch for skizm.
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm217/mareoneders/IMG_0540.jpg

[PegCityBoy]

peg- get better pens or actually try to color properly before you post, that shit looks like puke.



yea you're right copics and decos are absolute shit
btw i colored that shit fast cause thats how throws are supposed to be done, an it sure as hell beats the shit outta this shit
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/5371/jake003.jpg

bigdreamscheme here`s a clearer pic
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3526/3725238462_d98a6cdc18.jpg?v=0

azul eat your heart out

[unsuccsessfull]

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u255/biker123456789/IMG_2462.jpg
havent posted in a while

[JustChillin]

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww141/Davon2093/0715092142.jpg

[wpgtags]

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u255/biker123456789/IMG_2462.jpg
havent posted in a while

shit looks sexy, but it is taken from afar, try a close picture from a birds eye view

[medacog1]

http://i27.tinypic.com/doxkz7.jpg

This is first one i've sketched up in two or 3 weeks because ive been trying to get better with my tags..
(ive never been good at this hit me hard witht the truth and help me out.)

[PegCityBoy]

medacog your o is seriously fucked the whole is small as hell and it looks like someone stepped on it and it made a dent, just fix that up and make your bottom right leg of the k straight instead of kinked and it should look better

[DUNSY]

skizm props for the last one, improving at light speed
snew not bad it has a little euro flex but it needs some more flow, play with the bars man you've got simples down, make it more interesting.
pegcity - dope throw man!
bigdream - make your bars fatter it would look better that way
kurse - lol
beats his wife - you shouldn't be saying anything about skizm he's doing better then you, make the bars the same size

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3475/3721248513_14aa4a848b_o.jpg

this is actually a drawing i just did my fillins with photoshop I know my computer skills suck dick. it means ''no beef but chicken jam'' in dutch, I made if for a jam obviously

Where is that jam in belguim or netherland ? if in belguim i'll be there for sure :D

[DUNSY]

sorry double post, damn internet...

[Alone_NC]

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu137/Alone_NC/Alone2.jpg

Yes.. I know the L looks a lot like a Z..

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu137/Alone_NC/Alone1.jpg

Tell me what you think...

[graffboyz]

tell me what you think of this sketch i did and how i can improve - ( been doing graff for a while)

http://images.yuku.com/image/jpeg/9ba360084be1dc0c474ac3921e26ce86c10735af.jpg

[graffboyz]

tell me what you think of this sketch i did and how i can improve - ( been doing graff for a while)

http://images.yuku.com/image/jpeg/9ba360084be1dc0c474ac3921e26ce86c10735af.jpg

[graffboyz]

sorry double post

[Aesir]

^ That be a triple post right there I tell you what.

[B.S. POLICE]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v103/Staunch_Republican/Random/dangitbobbeh.jpg

[bak]

unsuccessful ur fills ar sick

maniac ur clouds or bubbles look weird but the throw is decent

dase the d doesnt fit the other letters

alone i like the second one

tonik the o looks like a d

rays that y is fire

tasty ur fills are clean

last night
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y150/cruzchuy/07-16-09_1140.jpg

[JustChillin]

well chuy i dont think i can give you crits cus I wouldnt know but i think your fill looks nice.

[sprout]

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac99/toddgayeff/Picturevv004.jpg

[JustChillin]

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww141/Davon2093/0716091411.jpg

[bak]

well chuy i dont think i can give you crits cus I wouldnt know but i think your fill looks nice.

lol thanks

skizm cool simps

[HalfGangstaShit]

Alone please stop chomping (cuz that's just too damn obvious to call it a bite) Above1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNSQiMJUkZQ


Fuck crits, shameless self promo!
Hadn't drawn a set of letters in a minute + it's on a napkin.. Oh well.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/nucleart/tmp15B.jpg

[Alone_NC]

Alone please stop chomping (cuz that's just too damn obvious to call it a bite) Above1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNSQiMJUkZQ

Yes. because since 3/5 of the letters are the same I CLEARLY took the name from Above. Fucking moron. I thought this name up the same as any other name I use. Above1 is amazing. The fact that I have 3 letters the same means nothing. You're a fucking moron for thinking it does.

And if you're refering to the style of the piece. While they share similarities. His letters are rigid and have corners. Mine is circular and the lettering is different. You think once someone throws a style up it can't be done again? Yes. because EVERY single throw and piece is COMPLETELY different from every other piece. Of course there are going to be similarities among people.

[Mr yarbles]

lol above sucks dick
His letter structure is completely broken

oh and you obviously bit him don't try and play it off.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNSQiMJUkZQ&feature=related

besides that it dosn't even matter cus the shit you've posted is terrible

[Alone_NC]

besides that it dosn't even matter cus the shit you've posted is terrible


http://i28.tinypic.com/abh4bo.jpg

Cause your shit there is just amazing...

[BigBlueViolence]

Better than your's *****,
now shut the fuck up.

[JustChillin]

who cares if he bites. Hes a toy. I stole a whole style from someone, before i started coming up with my own shit. I just dont understand what he would want to bite on a style that looks so wack. but anyways this is pulled straight out of the New to graffiti thread.

THIRD; DEVELOPING STYLE
Although being a toy seems undesirable, you should enjoy it while you can. at this stage you can bite all you want with no remorse. All your elders will say is, "Awww isn't that cute, kootchie kotchie koo." So steal that dope connection, rob that color scheme, and loot whole letterforms. Don't worry about giving any credit, we'll pat ourselves on the back and brag how we influenced the next generation. However, style isn't a cruch or schtick. It is understanding why that connection you bit flows, or why that color scheme bumps. Style is the process to an appealing end. Once you got it down to a science, you cna reinvent letterforms to suit yourself. This creative growth will amaze the old and young alike. Pretty soon somebody will steal your secret sauce and the cycle will be renewed. If this happens to you, don't bitch about not getting your due.

[CrustOner]

you developed your own... style?


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[raid123]

umm bad timing but heres some work i did in like 20 mins, crits would be muchhhh appreciated. sorry about the wall thingy near the h, had no idea why i decided to do it.

[HalfGangstaShit]

lol above sucks dick
His letter structure is completely broken

oh and you obviously bit him don't try and play it off.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNSQiMJUkZQ&feature=related

besides that it dosn't even matter cus the shit you've posted is terrible
Thanks man

[sprout]

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac99/toddgayeff/Picturevv005-1.jpg

HEY PORNO LOGIC. this is what i did with that outline you did for me.
what do ya think??
i really like the "m" you did..........

[pornobitelogic]

cool man, make the dot on the I smaller.
and dont let that s overlap it self on top.
keep working with this.
keep it up.

edit-

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm217/mareoneders/hth.png

some blackbook stuff, unfinished.
also , for some girl .
lol kinda went crazy on the extensions on the bottom. o well.
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm217/mareoneders/mareflick_0159.png

[Zarb]

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb33/skateboard23/0713092055.jpg
I feel like my E is out of placed, and I fucked up my K alittle bit. Still my best yet I would say. Crits?
Skizm- It doesn't look like your using bars to me, if your not then you should probably start using them it helps a lot.
Bak- It looks sick to me, I have nothing to say really cause im not on that level yet
Maniac- Your using bars the wrong way, to keyboard letters

[pornobitelogic]

the E,A,R look good. but the K looks kinda wierd.
other than that pretty nice.

[JustChillin]

you developed your own... style?


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAi dont see how its so funny?

[Zarb]

Im boored, jsut did another simple. I made some small changes, tried making my K alittle nicer.'http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb33/skateboard23/Photo28.jpg

[rewz]

i like the eark its simple nice clean i like how the leg of the a r and the k match with the lean shading could be a little better and diffrent out line color

[VaNdAL xBA!x]

Im boored, jsut did another simple. I made some small changes, tried making my K alittle nicer.'http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb33/skateboard23/Photo28.jpg

that isnt good my friend its uneven as shit n your letters jus aint very good try simpler without the curves

[PegCityBoy]

lol alone thats such a bite it's not even funny

i agree that not every piece is going to be different, but the similarities between those two are so close, theres no way you can pass that off as Orig. shit my advice admit the bite, start a new account so your not labeled from now on

[RFI. SPit]

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/1539/photo914.jpg
tasty- good lookin shit.
everyone else keep doing those simples

Fuckin' ill


Some other promising stuff in here as well
Keep workin on them straight letters guys, don't try to push style too hard until it comes naturally. Keep it up!



Newest, unfinished
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/1513/photo200t.jpg

[Slant One]

..

[sprout]

more crits???

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac99/toddgayeff/Picturevv003-2.jpg

[Beats_His_Wife]

Skiz- I like the Z and M but everything else is lacking

[raid123]

umm bad timing but heres some work i did in like 20 mins, crits would be muchhhh appreciated. sorry about the wall thingy near the h, had no idea why i decided to do it.

bump
edit: arghh crap, how come when i attach pictures they come as attachments and not the big pics like everyone else? do i neeed an account on flickr or something to do this :\?

[RFI. SPit]

Host them with imageshack or photobucket

[sprout]

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac99/toddgayeff/Picturevv005-2.jpg

i like this one..

[eel2]

hey in case everyones been wondering where ive been i havent been doin much painting because ive been spending alot of time swimming and waterskiing with my graffn crew, but i should have some more work up soon.

thanks
steel eel2

[klic]

good to see havnt got busted yet eel, i was starting to get worried..

[BigBlueViolence]

I hate it when the word NlGGA gets wordfiltered in an image.

[JustChillin]

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww141/Davon2093/0716091411.jpgbump. Crits anyone?

[sprout]

hey maniak. try doing a sketch of your handstyle real big and thick.

[pornobitelogic]

keep working on that bottom piece maniak, it looks solid so far.

[PegCityBoy]

hey in case everyones been wondering where ive been i havent been doin much painting because ive been spending alot of time swimming and waterskiing with my graffn crew, but i should have some more work up soon.

thanks
steel eel2

thank god you checked in eel i was about to call the 5-0 an send a search crew

[Alone_NC]

lol alone thats such a bite it's not even funny

i agree that not every piece is going to be different, but the similarities between those two are so close, theres no way you can pass that off as Orig. shit my advice admit the bite, start a new account so your not labeled from now on

I never said it was original. Look. I'm new to graff and I thought the style was interesting. I adapted it. I guess I now know that is "biting" but hey.. I would've just called it influence. Now I know.

My bad.

[KelisOne]

http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss103/Michaelhtid/KelisNew.jpg

Just using a few copic markers i bought. The darker lines on the 3D Backdrop was used by some shit faber-castell marker.

[pornobitelogic]

what you need to work on is coloring.
it looks like you didnt even care. and jsut wanted to get it over with.
take your time.

[KelisOne]

what you need to work on is coloring.
it looks like you didnt even care. and jsut wanted to get it over with.
take your time.

Alright Thanks. And do I need to do anything specific with my letter structure because I've just been focusing on it alot for the past few months.