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GuyGuyer of Guyland
05-25-2010, 09:34 PM
stutter, make your bars less wobbly and more straight (lousy grammar, but it conveys my point). not straight straight, you dont need to go that far back. but put a curve into it an make it bend like if you took both ends of a pencil and bent it but not snappin it. try an use that bend for now until you can curve your letters more naturally and less spaghetti like. the bottom R if you had just one curve, then throw a circle on the top and have your kick coming out at a steeper angle, itd look a lot sharper

GuyGuyer of Guyland
05-25-2010, 09:46 PM
Also did my own name cos I liked the cracks, lol

http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm73/danger_i/3cb45056.jpg

good block letters, start curving the edges to soften the letters out so they arnt so hard and make slight curves in the bars and you'll advance them real quick. cracks are detailed an look pretty good bro


http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt250/slerk/May-25_0914.jpg

youve got the right idea but your bars each have different flow an its all over the place, the individual letters sorta flow in the same direction.. but you need to get those individual bars in check and itll help make them letters slick ya know?


koz.
http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm362/mitchconley/koz.jpg

Rekt. colors on this look like shit
http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm362/mitchconley/ehhhnotthebest.jpg

Koz. the colors on this one look like shit too.
http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm362/mitchconley/koz01.jpg

half your letters are highly influenced, possibly not yours, not my role to call you out on that. but your Ks Zs and Ts are aiight, dont make your outline so wobbly, i seen straighter lines on lsd. starin at salvador dalis work. dont try an whyle out when your just getting an understanding for letters and bar work. your Os start with circles. itll help you understand positioning when you do triangularish Os like your trying there. once you get an idea where the main bars need to be on an O, then you an block up the edges and whatnot. add do-dads an such. keep all your bar widths the same for the piece. it looks mad wack when the bars on your K is real thin an the bars on your Z is much thicker on the same piece. not fresh ya digg? on the rekt sketch, kill the arrows and do what i said above. i have no doubt you'll be able to rock decent letters soon with some quick outlines just to get an understanding down

DONT COLOR THEM just do outlines, pen outlines. i cant emphasize enough how much this helped me advance my letters in a very short period of time

Stuck
05-25-2010, 10:51 PM
guyguyer r u RASEK? used to have an account like JetPack or somtn

Phillip McDougall
05-25-2010, 10:59 PM
Yes.

GuyGuyer of Guyland
05-25-2010, 11:01 PM
no.

KillzOne
05-25-2010, 11:04 PM
guyguyer r u RASEK? used to have an account like JetPack or somtn

Bitch guyer.......you blew my cover...... How am I suppose to operate with a lame troll like you. fuck herbish website.....

No he's not Ras................I am thanks for tellin leaks....

GuyGuyer of Guyland
05-25-2010, 11:06 PM
hey, youre not rasek. if im not him. no one is.

KillzOne
05-25-2010, 11:11 PM
Yo tofe WHY DO YOU SUCK SOOO MUCH ASSS quit graff now please and thank you

LeaksOne
05-25-2010, 11:14 PM
No he's not Ras................I am thanks for tellin leaks....

i dont care at all.

Stuck
05-25-2010, 11:37 PM
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k430/Atrik/Photo5.jpg

FlippingChickens
05-26-2010, 04:00 AM
http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3305.jpg

Etcha
05-26-2010, 07:31 AM
Nice. I like the simpleness. Try and keep it straight though.

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/2337/dsc08111z.jpg

dangeri
05-26-2010, 07:39 AM
Devil face is niiiiiice, b's got a wicked shape too, Personally I like m's with square/cornered tops as oppesed to arches, but that's not to say I dislike it,

haze4life
05-26-2010, 08:16 AM
Dude you're guetting a little ahead of youreself with those extentions, but they kinda work on the M and B... that E is pretty horrid tho.

GuyGuyer of Guyland
05-26-2010, 11:41 AM
good job tofe! mad improvement in a day. everythings coming together nicely, keep it up, youre getting the hang of it. each time you sketch out a piece, it gets a little better. practice makes perfect. soon you'll be able to take your old shit and incorporate certain ting tingys that you like onto those simples and youre on a roll. nicely done

Sbal
05-26-2010, 12:01 PM
Tofe i like that except for the hump on the T and the ant those little chunks that are missing from the F and E
Etcha That E could use some work and although i like the B, i don't really feel like its flowin.

Meph*
05-26-2010, 12:27 PM
tofe- thats one of ur best simples iv seen i like the colors too

emb- i like everything but the E to jst make it taller n take of the extension

Etcha
05-26-2010, 12:39 PM
cheers for the crits guys.
I see what you mean about the E. It is rather ugly.
I take it you are all refering to the bottom extension of the E. Ill sort that out. It just looks rather plain in that area without it and makes the E look to small. Not to sure what to do with it.
Ill draw one without and get it up.

GuyGuyer of Guyland
05-26-2010, 12:44 PM
make your E as tall as your B brotha. you got a sideways triangle thing goin on with the height of your letters

dangeri
05-26-2010, 01:14 PM
Bricks neeeeed to go, needs colour and I'm not entirely happy with that W if anyone has any advise?
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm73/danger_i/da5afea1.jpg

LeaksOne
05-26-2010, 01:18 PM
the top part of the E is way to far down

GuyGuyer of Guyland
05-26-2010, 01:28 PM
you forgot the bottom left part of your W on the inside of your A. thats why it looks wierd. and it wont be as thick as the bottom right part of your W. and as leaks said. the top part of your E dosent look too good crowding the middle bar of your E. you could probably add a fin to the top bar of the E without having to raise it. maybe add an extension on the left side of your A if you wanna balance it with a fin on the top of your E ya know?

FlippingChickens
05-26-2010, 03:34 PM
Guy,thanks for all the crits you have been giving me.

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3318.jpg

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3317.jpg
^fucked up doing the shadow of the f over the e...

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3320.jpg

2FNK?
05-26-2010, 05:17 PM
Bottom picture, I like the last two Tofe, except the E in the first one last picture & the t in the bottom one last picture

http://i731.photobucket.com/albums/ww318/coldhardclimber/IMG00464-20100525-1824.jpg
Newest, needs a fill and a background. Sloppy 3D, any other crits or suggestions?

http://i731.photobucket.com/albums/ww318/coldhardclimber/IMG00467-20100525-1834.jpg
Old, top one needs color, but I didn't think it was worth it.

2FNK?
05-26-2010, 05:34 PM
AWE, if you fix your w, don't connect it to the E how you have it. It doesn't really go with the rest of it, and I know you can think up something better.
Plus, your W could use to be behind your A or in front of it. Same with the W and the E. For now, simples. Let each letter consistently either always be in front of or behind the next one.

thepekins
05-26-2010, 05:37 PM
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/180/scan0011r.jpg (http://img696.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan0011r.jpg)

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/5717/scan0010n.jpg (http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan0010n.jpg)

some random shit i been drawin in school, I ran out of space for the O and had to staple together another piece of paper

2FNK?
05-26-2010, 05:47 PM
Haha thepekins, I did the same thing up with tape. If you want some crits, then work on the letter spacing. Size of letters is consistent, and your bars are good for the most part. Sick shit though, keep at it.

2FNK?
05-26-2010, 05:50 PM
http://www.smashingapps.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Graffiti-arts/graffity_25.jpg

That's someone else named WAZE, so I don't think I'd put the 1 on the end. But that's just me...

Phillip McDougall
05-26-2010, 06:23 PM
No! NOT SICK SHIT.

2FNK?
05-26-2010, 06:31 PM
I was just trying to throw in a compliment so I didn't sound like an asshole with nothing but crits. Haha. But your right, I shouldn't give him a big head.

Blar
05-26-2010, 07:51 PM
http://i48.tinypic.com/2zdzp05.jpg
Those blue dots arn't there in person don't know why they come up when I try to get a picture.

thepekins
05-26-2010, 07:52 PM
that dude does not write waze lol the article above it was about an iphone app called waze. I have searched a few times for other writers named waze and havent found anything so yeah. the one stays for now. And i know its not sick shit but thanks for the compliment, I thought it was decent

TOFE- i like that orange and blue throw, i think the bottom of the T should be more circular

Consume- Clean it up, get rid of some of the extensions, especially the ones overlapping your letters.

Blar
05-26-2010, 07:53 PM
Double posted by accident.

thepekins
05-26-2010, 07:55 PM
this dude writes bare in my town, hes better than you, not saying you should change your name, just sayin....

2FNK?
05-26-2010, 08:57 PM
Bare- a and e in no way go with the b and the r. Stick with one color inside your letters. Stick with one style in your letters. Work on your letter structure. Your 3d is off inside of your letters. Your E is way bigger than the rest, get your letters the same size. The R is a lot longer too... Just work on simples bro, stay up.

... And personally, I wouldn't waste the red ink filling the whole page unless your going to do that on a wall, or unless your piece is a little better in your book.

Waze- Haha, sorry bout that. I only googled it because we're posting in a toy thread, and you have "one" in your name. But it's all giggity. Thanks fo the crits. It looks like you don't have much revisions in your shit, one way I get ideas for my letter structure is to take basic letters, or the letters I sketch out, and just erase parts and change em a bunch. Then, outline your shit in pen on the lines that you like, throw a fill on that bitch, add your 3d and background (if you want a background). You can usually get a hold of pens, color pencils, or something to do your fills at school.

Just a tip man, I know how school blows. I do a lot of my sketches in school. I got a ton of paint pens I keep in my book bag :).

Btw Waze , I'd be down to do an exchange, just hit me up in the exchange forum

thepekins
05-27-2010, 05:42 AM
yeah id be down for an exchange too, just gotta finish up school and shit, I have exams starting tommorow and all next week, I shall hit thee up

Fluffy Bunnies
05-27-2010, 04:59 PM
Decided to try something completly different that i never seen anyone do, nothing too fancy just a quickie

KILS
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c312/Fluffybunnyrabbits/Image6.jpg

Binary Code

thepekins
05-27-2010, 05:11 PM
idk what thats supposed to be but it looks cool. It would look really good if you gave it a wicked fill

Fluffy Bunnies
05-27-2010, 05:25 PM
its binary code, i plan on making a series of stickers, its just a rough hand draw. i am gona do it digitally and have it mass produced. it came to me in a dream... and a couple smacks on the back of the head. greatest idea i ever had

Phillip McDougall
05-27-2010, 06:12 PM
Nice face

Amends_Ego
05-27-2010, 06:40 PM
Lovin it bunny, ive actually been doing binary all over my BB and a few canvases but I know you never bit ive never showed any of that shit on here.
My advice for how your rockin it would be to get fresh with it experiment, not everyone is like me an typed it in to see what it says, you gotta come up with somethin memorable that stick out a little more.

Fluffy Bunnies
05-27-2010, 07:02 PM
i am just doing it for me. KILS is my writer name and wanted to write my name a dif way just like everyone else.
and just for the record, that lil doodle sucks dick balls imo lol i just wanted to see what it looked like on paper
but yeah thanksies for the crits, i have big plans right now for that binary shit hehehe

StuttersDaily
05-27-2010, 07:29 PM
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/148/img022y.jpg
just a quickie before catching up on some sleep..kinda messed up tho, its lopsided and letters get smaller
that binary code made me laugh bunny.. im diggin it tho

2FNK?
05-27-2010, 08:33 PM
Stutr-The u needs fixed... you need to throw some 3D on that shit! Haha. Use bars. But first, add a little more style & flow to your letters man. Then color it :)

Stuck
05-27-2010, 09:26 PM
stutr smoothen out the kinks in the t's, fix your proportions they go bigger to smaller, and keep workin on the R. A good way to learn R's is by making the part u made a circle into a triangle.for me at least

IbuprofenTablets
05-27-2010, 09:56 PM
Quick Joint.
http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af170/DirtyBed/Photo54.jpg

GuyGuyer of Guyland
05-27-2010, 10:06 PM
Guy,thanks for all the crits you have been giving me.

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3318.jpg

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3317.jpg
^fucked up doing the shadow of the f over the e...

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3320.jpg

sall good homie, im glad to see you making improvements.

FlippingChickens
05-28-2010, 04:20 AM
Good to hear my man

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3321.jpg

^all tree of them are freestyle

Stuck
05-28-2010, 04:53 AM
want a trophy?
marker freestyle i was doing before i read ur comment ^^^^
just bored and doing shit i normally dont do
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k430/Atrik/Photo9-3.jpg
and heres another one that i prolly wont finish but will definitly bang it out on a chill wall somewhere
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k430/Atrik/Photo10-3.jpg

massacreman
05-28-2010, 08:07 AM
dig the 1st ones e's alot

||BREAD||
05-28-2010, 11:14 AM
Binary stickers FTW haha

Hey stuck, Wiz Khalifa?

Ok I've had soo much trouble in the past years, I can't ever find a throwie or name i like to do in a throwie, wow was that confusing? lolz anyways i did this last night, filled three pages to get it and i def. like it but im having trouble with the shadow, HaLP?
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s270/kanoop/018.jpg
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s270/kanoop/017.jpg
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s270/kanoop/016.jpg
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s270/kanoop/015.jpg

Flawless Victory
05-28-2010, 11:23 AM
why the fuck aren't you using that A in the last picture?

weakfingers
05-28-2010, 11:54 AM
I'm in a half shell'
http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/tt300/2wayducttape/SDC19834.jpg

Stuck
05-28-2010, 11:59 AM
diggin the Teenage mutant NINJA TURTLES MUHFUCKA!!!!! DATS MUH SHITT!!!!!!! BOOYEAHHH UGGH HUH NINJA TURRRTTLLEEEEEssss.watcha know bout dat soonnnnnnn

weakfingers
05-28-2010, 12:03 PM
I'm thinking about painting that sketch today but the bricks take way to long and I don't have very much patience.

Flawless Victory
05-28-2010, 12:05 PM
just do like, the surrounding ones.

like the ones that actually hide the letters

dangeri
05-28-2010, 12:30 PM
Stencil it, get 5 or 6 diff shaped cardboard bricks mix n match and u can go as far as u like in stages

RES4
05-28-2010, 01:10 PM
squint- if you paint it make some of the bricks fall away instead of a big random hole in the middle know whatta mean?

asp- i like the s but thats it. check mine, i write the same first three letters

hate the e in this
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4048/4647565163_d25792688b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4031/4647572563_6c3b14eb26.jpg

p is too small in this but whatever
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4041/4647572803_afbbbe7dee.jpg

St3vO
05-28-2010, 02:05 PM
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/steve-o_070/0528001439.jpg

Shitty simp I did today. Crits are welcome but I have a pretty good idea of what is wrong with it haha

@RES4: That first sketch is clean, color that shit in. I'm not feeling the A on your red throwie though.

||BREAD||
05-28-2010, 02:35 PM
Ya wow asper that first one is really nice. I also hope you dont think i bite your name, i was just throwing letters together.

"why the fuck aren't you using that A in the last picture?" I am, That was the last one i did.

RES4
05-28-2010, 03:31 PM
dont worry bout the name. i was writing aspect but the t was annoyin me

gash? is the first letter a G? the A is a decent start but you need to straighten out the letters for now. what you need to do is make the first bar or main bar of every letter go the same direction. right now it has no flow and the letters look pretty bad. so just start with straight letters, then bend the main bar the same direction in every letter.

"awesome"ONE
05-28-2010, 06:03 PM
hey gash, use block letters your not on that level yet, squint cool theme man, but your letters bore me no offense,

funhouseXcast
05-28-2010, 09:24 PM
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l35t8fpaXP1qayvu8o1_500.jpg

just bored. quick straight

Flawless Victory
05-28-2010, 10:11 PM
Ya wow asper that first one is really nice. I also hope you dont think i bite your name, i was just throwing letters together.

"why the fuck aren't you using that A in the last picture?" I am, That was the last one i did.
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/8550/015xe.jpg

St3vO
05-28-2010, 11:09 PM
hey gash, use block letters your not on that level yet, squint cool theme man, but your letters bore me no offense,

Word this isn't my normal style at all, I was just bored. The letters turned out sloppy as fuck haha. I'll post my regular shit at some point.

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/steve-o_070/0506000128.jpg

This is a little more like my regular stuff. Yeah I know I fucked up my bars.

Amends_Ego
05-29-2010, 12:01 AM
I agree with flawless, cept vut doen the back bar it looks a little too big form this perspective.

||BREAD||
05-29-2010, 02:27 AM
Ya im sorry but i dont liek that one at all gash.

And ok Flawless Lolzzz I see it now haha

Stuck
05-29-2010, 03:24 AM
gash it kinda looks like u know what bars are but it also looks like you dont.... do a marker freestyle using bars and dont colour it in i wana see the structure behind ur letter then ill be able to help u better

fakiee
05-29-2010, 06:22 AM
St3vO your h looks like k.
and i dont like the g.

St3vO
05-29-2010, 10:52 AM
St3vO your h looks like k.
and i dont like the g.

yeah dude I fuckin hate my G. Well I kinda hate G's as a letter. I'll get that marker freestyle up today

Stuck
05-29-2010, 10:53 AM
remember SIMPLE

Cyto Aka Son1c
05-29-2010, 01:37 PM
http://i50.tinypic.com/a4u976.jpg

Meph*
05-29-2010, 07:17 PM
im gonna paint the buildings and bat signal with black sharpie i think..any ideas for the rest of the background?

http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/ad240/Meph_one/sss.jpg

crits would be nice;)

Meph*
05-29-2010, 07:20 PM
...i like my batman:), came out sick!!!

Amends_Ego
05-29-2010, 10:11 PM
^/sigh
cyto- can we get a straight on pic, cant really crit it from that perspective.

fakiee
05-30-2010, 07:25 AM
yeah dude I fuckin hate my G. Well I kinda hate G's as a letter. I'll get that marker freestyle up today

so change your name and do it without G :D or just try something new with G.

and cyto i dont like the filling..

meph i like your batman.but i liked your previous "meph" more than this one.

Stuck
05-30-2010, 07:34 AM
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k430/Atrik/Photo12-2.jpg

GuyGuyer of Guyland
05-30-2010, 08:10 AM
make your H wider, its too tucked in. dosent balance out with the width on the other letters

Stuck
05-30-2010, 08:41 AM
good call

-Empty-Can-
05-30-2010, 09:23 AM
I think the are R should be a bit skinnier towards the top. Then bring the E a tad bit closer.

FlippingChickens
05-30-2010, 10:25 AM
the middle bar of the e should go more towards the middle

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3325.jpg http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3324.jpg http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3323.jpg

i dont like the e of the black one and the f came got fucked on the flame peice

GuyGuyer of Guyland
05-30-2010, 10:45 AM
keep your bars the same width, have the ends of the bars going into the other ends rather than stacking them up on each other. the bottom of your T for example. check how you have a chunk sittin on top the extension, smooth it down an work it into the other bar.

do dads an shit, didnt alter it too much

http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/1602/tofe.png (http://img541.imageshack.us/i/tofe.png/)

MoganOne
05-30-2010, 01:05 PM
great advice

FlippingChickens
05-30-2010, 01:40 PM
HELL YEA THANKS GUY! I have trouble building and constructing letters,ive always been a slow learner and sometimes reading isnt enough for me to fully comprehend ( i think im like dislexic or some shit ) so to visually see my mistakes was nice for a change.Your advice is always on point,thanks for the support man its really stepping up my game.

GuyGuyer of Guyland
05-30-2010, 06:30 PM
sall good homie, ive rocked a few nice sketches too lately. so i guess karmas helpin me back. any time. i woulda did that ms paint thing earlier but ive got serious adhd and i typically dont have patience to do so. but today i was able to with my morning coffee

I GOT CLOUT
05-30-2010, 06:33 PM
guyer knows whats up.

FlippingChickens
05-30-2010, 10:48 PM
i got fuckeddd up tonight and there is a flaws and messynes in the peice but overall i love how the letters looked..im looking foward to playing with them tomorrow when im not so fucked up..the t shouldnt have came out so skinny and some flaws here and there but fuck im really drunk ill have much more focus tomorrow

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3326.jpg

forcefield really determines how fucked up i really am,idk how it got that sloppy

GuyGuyer of Guyland
05-30-2010, 10:57 PM
just keep working at it, parallel lines look very good if you use em well. the inside bar of your F needs work, same with the bottom of your F. the bottom of your T needs work. make the top bar of the T longer. and your E is much larger than the rest of your piece. make them all the size height. the top extension on your O make a bit shorter. try 2/3rds of what you have now.

but forreal, the bottom bar of your T. take that top line and make it go straight to that corner if you know what i mean.

GuyGuyer of Guyland
05-30-2010, 11:03 PM
an yo, check the bar use on this quick paint sketch. see how i run my bars through each other? on the T in particular. the bottom bars run into the ends of the other bars. by doing that you get good bar proportioning and it looks clean an whatnot. run the bars through the other bars so all your bars are even and flow well.

dont use the E in this sketch on your piece though, its the E i use on my ground ups.

FlippingChickens
05-31-2010, 08:10 AM
Good looks guy,im gonna work on it now.

FlippingChickens
05-31-2010, 10:18 AM
what i have so far...gonna work on it later
http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3327.jpg

DieHippie
05-31-2010, 10:23 AM
i aint feelin how the left of the O has a point and the right of it is smooth but eh ..

fakiee
05-31-2010, 11:35 AM
i think that O in your previous work (the green one) was better.
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee170/teenageragainst/beztytuu1.jpg
1. this looks bad.like you made a mistake.its not the same size as the rest of your piece
2. i dont like the thing at the end of this bar.
3. i think you should get rid of it or make it the same size as all the bars...

GuyGuyer of Guyland
05-31-2010, 12:06 PM
thats the best T youve done so far tofe. on your O try flipping the way the bar turns. it stretchs outwards right nopw, flip it so it stretches inwards. make it smooth on the outside. the spine of your E make it go up just like your T and F.

just keep sketchin outlines an workin at it bro. youve made a retarded amount of progression over the past 5 pages. youve got the raw talent, no doubt, you just need to do a lot of outlines. you know what your doing now too. so it wont be that hard anymore, just gotta get the flow down and small things liek bar proportioning.

youre starting to use smooth curves in your bars too, and its really sharpening them up. signifigantly. the top bar of your F and T look real good homie. keep it up

I GOT CLOUT
05-31-2010, 12:20 PM
Kinda ran outta space but I think you get it. I did the spine of the F like this to kill some of the negative space under the horizonta bars of the F and so you wont have to curve the spine of the E in so close to the F. And i drew this before guyers crits, but I still kinda did the same things, haha. good looks.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a103/DeciMatioN/3bc8ea18.jpg

Amends_Ego
05-31-2010, 12:22 PM
exchange with clout, first time peicing an S, kinda botched the OL but tired to play with varying the width to add more depth
http://i47.tinypic.com/288m6ag.jpg

I GOT CLOUT
05-31-2010, 12:35 PM
Amends, I dont know if ive seen your other shit, but from this I can deduce you need to stick to block, or keyboard letters if you will. For now stick to either all uppercase or lowercase. And you said you were trying to vary the widths, but to my I can barely see any changes. For now just stick to the same widths throughout the piece.

GuyGuyer of Guyland
05-31-2010, 12:49 PM
nah, he's just comin outta block an stick letters. keep doin what you do amends. it takes time. but its a step in the right direction. yah gotta make some mistakes an whatnot. the letters are pretty good. i would have done a second hapital E. not a lowercase. i find when the rest are capital but you have one lowercase, it dosent look as bold as it could if everything was a capital. pieces an whatnot you can do that without an issue. simples, iunno.. your S could use some work. maybe bring the top a bit lower, similar to the bottom. it just looks bland to me. keep at it though, definatly not bad.

easer, that tofe piece is pretty good yo, i like what you did with the TOF. the T and F balance each other out mad well, looks great. but unfortunatly cuz of the balance of those 3 letters you left the E out to hang kinna deal ya know? looks all lonely an shit. yah could have brought the E in some more to kill that negative space. the top of the F wouldnt look bad if it hung over the E some more. but overall, its pretty bang on.

ill try an find a camera, once i do that then ill be able to pop off some sketches an exchanges

I GOT CLOUT
05-31-2010, 12:56 PM
Yeah, once I got to the E and realized I didnt have that much room it kinda made me not care anymore. Especially since I was just sketchin it real quick to give him a good idea of where to go with it. I figured he can figure out how to bring that E in an look better. Ill help but I aint babysittin, ya know? haha

GuyGuyer of Guyland
05-31-2010, 01:27 PM
i hear ya clout, you did your thing. its more than 90% of heads in here is gonna give

Amends_Ego
05-31-2010, 02:20 PM
in retrospect I see the e really does throw it all off. an I am just getting off simps and playing around. thanks for the crits ill work on it.

RES4
05-31-2010, 02:23 PM
nothin to crit really. i agree with most things said on this page

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4002/4656653605_a7198a7cef.jpg

i cant get a decent e to fit with the rest of the letters.

GuyGuyer of Guyland
05-31-2010, 02:30 PM
you could rock a lowercase E on that type of sketch cuz the tops are all smooth an circle like, like the top of an E ya know? either that or seperate the spines of the P an R to define where they are and it would suit the E much better

Cyto Aka Son1c
05-31-2010, 04:02 PM
http://i46.tinypic.com/103g84p.jpg

http://i49.tinypic.com/k4wk8k.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/29nareb.jpg

FlippingChickens
05-31-2010, 04:16 PM
Yea i agree with guy the e needs to be get closer..but yea i could tell it was a quick sketch and stupid mistakes like that happen so dont sweat it,i appreciate for taking your time to do that..im gonna tweak my letters on what i posted last and ima proceed to sketching out what clout did

cyto - yo dont do all that crazy shit inside your letters and focus on what has been talked about these last few pages,its all about proportions,widths,heights,bars,and most important style,but style doesnt mean a crazy backround and random add on's,just keep it neat and simple for now.

Church
05-31-2010, 04:20 PM
http://i46.tinypic.com/103g84p.jpg

http://i49.tinypic.com/k4wk8k.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/29nareb.jpg
yes! and no at the same time. The first one is the best one, but the black lines that come off in every direction look like you went for the 3d drop effect but couldn't decide which way you wanted it, so it throws of the perspective. The paint scheme good though.

The second one is the one that is the worst. You obviously can do way better since the other two are good. the letters themselves are really weak in some spots, and by adding multiple lines on the same letter, it makes it look even weaker since it deemphasizes the actual shape of the letters. and im not a fan of that paint job.

I can clearly see the look that you were going for with the last one. But once again, the perspective is off and that makes the letters look really weak. It has a lot of style to it, just not executed properly.

overall I think they are good and you show a lot of potential. you have a clear direction that you are going in and you understand the basics like "keepin the letters the same size". keep at it

-Empty-Can-
05-31-2010, 04:21 PM
Yo Tofe,I'll do an simple exchange for you later.

Bars
05-31-2010, 04:25 PM
i think that O in your previous work (the green one) was better.
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/6412/beztytuu11b.jpg
1. this looks bad.like you made a mistake.its not the same size as the rest of your piece
2. i dont like the thing at the end of this bar.
3. i think you should get rid of it or make it the same size as all the bars...
4. that 3d is poopy, change it

I don't really Like how the E leans so much at the end. But still it's starting to get better!

RES4
05-31-2010, 04:31 PM
cyto- at first it looks sick, but if you break it down the letters are lacking. its not bad though, just work on letter structure instead of add ons and such. the style sorta reminds me of some tenser piece i saw somewhere

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4043/4657730588_323929934c.jpg

Cyto Aka Son1c
05-31-2010, 04:45 PM
thanks everyone! :D

asper- looks much better with lowercase e

and heres more tinkering with one of the sketches

http://i45.tinypic.com/64pcfb.jpg

I've just been smoking hash and busting shit out today

FlippingChickens
05-31-2010, 06:21 PM
asper - i think a thicker outline could make it look better

cyto - i like that trippy robotic shit..just the widths of the bars going big and small like for example look at the letter s..it just kills it..but overall it looks nice,just focus on doing simple stuff

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3328.jpg
i was hyper as fuck when i did this peice,i should have just left it black n white;fuck it

Amends_Ego
05-31-2010, 06:26 PM
OH GOD!... oh wait just read what you said last. you got it on point street meth and graff dont mix, id keep spraypaint outta your BB too.

FlippingChickens
05-31-2010, 06:31 PM
i was really hyper idk wtf is wrong with me today but im good now ima sketch something else right after im finished smoking

Cyto Aka Son1c
05-31-2010, 09:36 PM
TOFE- E needs to be straight like the rest :) other than that it looks good

http://i46.tinypic.com/23vyn10.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/2zyxwco.jpg

I fucked up the R

MoganOne
06-01-2010, 08:39 AM
Yo Deser Nice style man

lord_plankton
06-01-2010, 09:14 AM
id not overlap just one e..the black one looks better but why you do exactly the same shit twice? oh and first e is really streched copmpared to second also the extension on the bottom first e is ugly so are the "wings on leg of r...and in general youve a really edgy style like no curves except the ees..you might wanna try n change em up all edgy n see how it turns out...

ironcrack
06-01-2010, 11:10 AM
its the same pic. in negative

RES4
06-01-2010, 11:33 AM
tofe- gettin better, dont like the e tho

deser- s is the best letter. change the e's

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4028/4659908723_6033d1dac0.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4070/4660530972_babd825b24.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4049/4659909569_27afcde03c.jpg

i changed the r to a k cause it sounds better

haze4life
06-01-2010, 01:47 PM
i was really hyper idk wtf is wrong with me today but im good now ima sketch something else right after im finished smoking

Obvious 13 yearold is obvious

Cyto Aka Son1c
06-01-2010, 02:55 PM
last K is best K

overall pieces are dope

http://i46.tinypic.com/rsy4ra.jpg

lord_plankton
06-01-2010, 03:07 PM
its the same pic. in negative
hahah, and im like "the black one looks better" ..well the perspective and color do make a diffrence..dese last latest piece is worse, first off id like round the bottom part d..its what most sticks out at first glance..mid part of e is long dong..
overall too much cracks n shit...

Inlyn08
06-01-2010, 08:41 PM
hahah, and im like "the black one looks better" ..well the perspective and color do make a diffrence..dese last latest piece is worse, first off id like round the bottom part d..its what most sticks out at first glance..mid part of e is long dong..
overall too much cracks n shit...
I lol'd.

TheToy
06-01-2010, 10:22 PM
bored...
http://www.bombingscience.com/graffitiforum/picture.php?albumid=365&pictureid=3433

pleasedontstayr
06-01-2010, 11:18 PM
TOFE- E needs to be straight like the rest :) other than that it looks good

are you kidding me?
http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3328.jpg

The bend in that T is horrible, it looks like it has a leg and T's dont have legs. The extension on the top right of the O is way too fat, and shouldnt be there in the first place, not to mention the bars on the O look like he tried to make a diamond shape on the outside and a curvy type on the inside. which then makes the bars uneven. the extension on the bottom of the F is too small and makes it look awkward, an F does not need a leg either. dont cut into your bars like you did on the middle bar of the F. the random bump coming off the back of the base bar on the F looks stupid as fuck and doesnt fit, The curve on the top bar of the F doesnt match the bottom part of the bar or any letter but the E for that matter. And just scrap the E and never think of using it again because i dont want to crit it. The 3D on the bottom left diagonal bar is missing, the 3d on the O is missing as well on the top left bar. the inside 3d looks like shit because you fucked up your bars. the F is missing 3d on that wonky penis looking thing at the top of it. and once again im not touching on that E. we have told you so many fucking times i stopped counting. stick to simples. no extensions. nothing. nothing at all. simples until you can learn how to properly tweak a letter or QUIT GRAFFITI.'

sorry but this had to be said.

Edit: rewt ive always liked your style of slanting the letters. your simples are looking clean as hell these days, start tweaking? or are you just gonna keep rockin em? really feelin that colour combo too.

GuyGuyer of Guyland
06-01-2010, 11:32 PM
shut the fuck up. half of what you said isnt even worth reading.

his T and F are fine. and his E wouldnt be horrible if it was standing up. look 5 pages back an try an front like he isnt improving

tofe, tone it down a bit. he does have a point in keepin it simple for now. granted that black an blue one you did wasnt too bad. just stop doing what you do with your E. it hurts my head

pleasedontstayr
06-01-2010, 11:37 PM
maybe i did go a bit overboard but that E has bars all over the place so i dont see how standing it up would improve it. if you looked maybe 100 pages back. you would see him posting the same stuff over and over and being told the same things. i guess my crits made it look like i thought the whole thing was shit. its aesthetically pleasing, the fill is cool albeit raping my eyes like i had ADHD. but when you look at the structure its off, hence why we always tell him to go simpler.

GuyGuyer of Guyland
06-01-2010, 11:51 PM
yes, he needs to go simpler. no he dosent need to rock block letters. yes, he should.

he's having fun and trying to improve a bit. he dosent need to take letter formation as serious as many do because he dosent take graffiti as a whole that serious.

helpful tips will show him the right direction. but it seems he just wants to doodle around like a typical 13 year old. i doubt he's into graffiti for any clout or wall painting sense or whatnot.

realize different people need different approaches when it comes to tips. the way you said it, he wont listen to anything you said. rather than being nice and have him listen to half of what ive said.

maybe he'll realize he wants to paint in the future and when he does. he'll realize that shit wont look too fly on a wall. at that point in his life. he'll revert to block letters to regain some of what he missed.

i dont disagree with you, but the way you threw it at him just seemed over the top

TheToy
06-02-2010, 12:07 AM
rewt ive always liked your style of slanting the letters. your simples are looking clean as hell these days, start tweaking? or are you just gonna keep rockin em? really feelin that colour combo too.

Thanks, dude. I've been tweaking a little bit on paper with pencil. Small bends in letters and curves and some extensions. Just been workin' on each individual letter but still a little apprehensive. Messin' with drop shadows/3D from different angles. I'll probably keep rockin' straights for a while as I work on paper. Hopefully it all evolve into something better someday.

weakfingers
06-02-2010, 12:10 AM
The toy posting in toy blackbooks!?!.... oh now Ive seen everything! :)




(e-sarcasm)

On the real tho I'm hyped on seeing your tweak your style.

FlippingChickens
06-02-2010, 09:54 AM
stayr - quit being such a little bitch and telling me to quit,ive been doing this for years im not quitting cuz some prick has his period,ive fucking progressed a massive amount this past week because guy knows how to give good crits unlike you and the rest of the scumbags who just told me to quit..so what, just because i fucked up in this one peice does not mean i havent been rocking out some better shit.Guy,i do take graffiti seriously,honestly i had no what i was doing when i was 13,14,15,16,and now im 17 almost 18 still trying to figure shit out,but i have like 7 blackbooks filled with horrible shit regardless of it being toy i still had dedication and a thrill for doing so many peices..since i was 14 every morning and afternoon id take the train to school and basicly i started doing a bunch of tags everyday and i just recently got a car so ive been doing that cycle for sometime now..nothing to brag about but i have put myself at risk for this shit and been mad close to being caught once

FlippingChickens
06-02-2010, 10:19 AM
http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3331.jpg http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3330.jpg http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3329.jpg

weakfingers
06-02-2010, 10:30 AM
Flipping chickens- You gotta just focus on the basic of graffiti, the letter bends and all the drippy shit and colours are cool but the structure is pretty lacking. You should be able to rock a solid 2 colour piece befor your go all out with effects and shit. That whole Ive been writing for 5 years and filled 7 black books aint something to stand by. Its up to YOU to get better, Its all about self motivation. I'm not trying to put you on blast this is just a general holla to most of the kids on the forum.

We all get harsh crits on the site but proove the fools wrong and work hard and come back with a sketch that will leave them speechless.

Ive seen so many kids on the site just do the same shit all the tiome and never change up there shit and stay super toy for the whole time I've been on here., I know its the number one rule of graffiti but bite graffiti. Get ideas from other styles, who the fuck cares, your a toy and just draw that shit over and over till its not the same anymore and its a new letter structure, Every one has seen that letter they liked and tried it out & I'll be the first one to say, Most of my styles have come from one bitten letter I'll see in a piece I really like that has one of my letters. Ill combine it with my own and I'll tweak it and work with it and sooner or later itill be a completely different letter. I'll post some progression pics in abit...

GuyGuyer of Guyland
06-02-2010, 10:40 AM
tofe, that purple an pink one is the best thing ive seen from you. in fact, its better than most of the shit ive seen the past week. keep it up homie. the bottom part of the spine of the F is too forced, i dont think it looks too good.

the O is fresh, the E is nearly point on. the top half of your T is dope. keep it up man

just keep sketchin. 5 outlines a day, no color. thats how you get your letters bang on yah dig?

yo weakfingers, did you just tell this guy to bite? what the fuck.. yo tofe. dont bite. inspiration and biting are completely different. biters aint writers.

weakfingers
06-02-2010, 10:50 AM
All im trying to say is try completely new shit and youll progress a shitload.
http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/tt300/2wayducttape/Picture44.jpg
http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/tt300/2wayducttape/Picture13-2.jpg
http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/tt300/2wayducttape/seid-1.jpg
http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/tt300/2wayducttape/DSCF8721.jpg
http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/tt300/2wayducttape/DSCF5999.jpg
http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/tt300/2wayducttape/DSCF6332.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4068/4641727155_d2825612a9_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3328/4587881571_aaf127c60d_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4011/4544342025_ccce67fb0c_b.jpg

TheToy
06-02-2010, 11:07 AM
The toy posting in toy blackbooks!?!.... oh now Ive seen everything! :)

Haha. Dude, I have the worst ADHD. I can never sit down and finish a drawing. That one only took five minutes and it felt like hours. I'm trying to fight the urge to start something new when I'm only have way through something or just completely start doodling something else. I'm my own worst enemy cause I have no patience. I think that's why my style has been lacking lately.

YaPp3RoN3R
06-02-2010, 11:46 AM
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad308/slash440022/Picture0022.jpg

i know the letters are different , i did that on purpose , i want it to look gooffy

YaPp3RoN3R
06-02-2010, 11:47 AM
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad308/slash440022/Picture0022.jpg

i know the letters are different , i did that on purpose , i want it to look gooffy

ViniVidiVici
06-02-2010, 12:38 PM
I kinda like it.... the y is sick in my opinion

lord_plankton
06-02-2010, 12:48 PM
well you can go n store it under achievements, it does look goofy..

YaPp3RoN3R
06-02-2010, 01:03 PM
well i wanted it that way ,, u have any other pointers?

FlippingChickens
06-02-2010, 01:23 PM
Yo guy, should i leave my letters without 3d until i get better letters?

RES4
06-02-2010, 01:33 PM
you may as well practice 3d and shadow now. but you should leave fills for now, just do outlines

lord_plankton
06-02-2010, 05:55 PM
well i wanted it that way ,, u have any other pointers?
no, as you said, you wanted it that way so youre good..what can i say..maybe delete one of the pics..

n8galicia
06-02-2010, 06:34 PM
damn ain't posted in ere for a minute. anyways...

http://i47.tinypic.com/34ordvt.jpg

GuyGuyer of Guyland
06-02-2010, 07:19 PM
Yo guy, should i leave my letters without 3d until i get better letters?


you may as well practice 3d and shadow now. but you should leave fills for now, just do outlines

exactly what he said. you could do fills. but it takes away precious time from outlines you could be doing

the more outlines you do, the better you get. it dosent seem you dont have a full understanding of 3D an drop shadows. so keep doin em too

-Empty-Can-
06-02-2010, 08:24 PM
Abel-Make your A using two diagonal bars. Try to keep your letters the same size.

zennegen
06-02-2010, 09:04 PM
no crits...

http://i50.tinypic.com/72x8hw.jpg

GuyGuyer of Guyland
06-02-2010, 09:17 PM
its nice. wanna do an exchange? id like to see my name in that caligraphy shit. pm me if yah do

ManeMan
06-02-2010, 10:35 PM
9137

9138

9140

9141
These be some outlines of just somewhat simple letters(I probably shouldnt of done those little characters.. But I really like drawing characters, so fuck it.). Then I coloured one in to change it up abit. Opinion or crits would be much appreciated.

AteskOne
06-03-2010, 12:12 AM
Haha. Dude, I have the worst ADHD. I can never sit down and finish a drawing. That one only took five minutes and it felt like hours. I'm trying to fight the urge to start something new when I'm only have way through something or just completely start doodling something else. I'm my own worst enemy cause I have no patience. I think that's why my style has been lacking lately.
yeah that sucks bro. i can draw for fuckin days. hours spent in the BB are definitely crucial for progression.

weakfingers
06-03-2010, 12:15 AM
I hate drawing even though i know its crutial.
http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/tt300/2wayducttape/SDC19870.jpg

FlippingChickens
06-03-2010, 12:22 AM
i like the q on the bottom one,i think the e has pottential it just needs to be played wit,the z looks kinda bad with your a going over it like that..my favorite is the top one,the s is on point but the n is really lacking and the t should be thicker and if you make the q shorter at the top and fix its leg sticking out then ur good

FlippingChickens
06-03-2010, 04:48 AM
http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3332.jpg

when i get some sleep ill outline the black so it will be darker

Beatjunkie
06-03-2010, 07:48 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v160/fietswiel/utf-8BSU1HMDA4MzYtMjAxMDA2MDMtMTM1O.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v160/fietswiel/utf-8BSU1HMDA4MzQtMjAxMDA2MDMtMTMwN.jpg

Sbal
06-03-2010, 08:53 AM
Does that say Slape? or Slade? Don't really like any of the letters especially the e and the s

Beatjunkie
06-03-2010, 09:07 AM
Its a P. I drew up the letters fairly quickly, I wanted to practice my colors. Personally I thought the SLAP was okay... I dont like the E either, i fuckd that one up, but as I said I was trying to practice my coloring so I just filled it up.

What do you think of the fill in?

oh_kilts
06-03-2010, 02:50 PM
new to graffiti, but having fun doing it (regardless of being a huge toy). Decided to focus on more simple type letters and my bars, as per the mass amount of that advice on this here forum. anyways, harsh critiques always appreciated.

http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/ad226/a_better_bard/graf/2.jpg

http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/ad226/a_better_bard/graf/3.jpg

RES4
06-03-2010, 04:21 PM
well the first sketch is a start. take out the random bends in the letters. remove the thing sticking out at the left of the k, and smooth the top of the t. if you want to bend the letters you could smooth them and bend each main bar in the same direction

Meph*
06-03-2010, 04:52 PM
http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/ad240/Meph_one/ae86.jpg

did this a while ago, just wanted to post it up looking for crits

kilt- i like the first one a lot, the second one just looks awkward

tofe- I see you improving but i dont like that E

oh_kilts
06-03-2010, 05:17 PM
thanks guys, i agree about the second one, i didn't really like it either, hah. I'll fix those things RES4, thanks.

Meph, I can't really critique it as graffiti, but as a drawing in general I dig it, and -hell yes- an AE86, one of my favorite cars, easily.

Amends_Ego
06-03-2010, 05:27 PM
kilts-everything that RES said plus you look like you have the basic structure of shit down just dont force the bends and add ons let it come naturally to you,

Sbal
06-03-2010, 05:37 PM
Slape its too much color too soon, even if it was dope, it wont save your lacking letter structure

Meph*
06-03-2010, 07:02 PM
thanks kilt, n yeah i know its not graffiti but yeh i jst had to post my ae86 lol not many people like that car.

zennegen
06-03-2010, 07:39 PM
http://i46.tinypic.com/fnbx9i.jpg
exchange for rasek. S came out shitty.

-Empty-Can-
06-03-2010, 09:18 PM
http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/ab66/pics4bscience4/tofexchangeMedium.jpg
exchange for tofe
quick and simple.
half assed the O
first thing i drew in like a month
critz it

pleasedontstayr
06-03-2010, 09:35 PM
Tofe, i didnt straight out say quit graffiti. i said if you cant follow the advice we've been giving for awhile then just quit. harsh but thats how i crit, along with a few others on this site. but all e beef aside that outline on the far right set of pictures you did on the last page was rockin i wont lie. i still dont like the extension on the top of the O and the top of the F but keep at it.

Zenn: i havent seen you post anything in a long time man, if ever. Not startin beef at all but for the first thing ive seen from you that style is wicked dude. on a side note that R and K look like the exact opposite if you know what i mean, but maybe thats how you wanted it i dunno!

Kilt: good to see your startin the simples, i would say maybe space your letters out a tiny bit because they look a bit crowded, also try and fix the way your bending them because they are going like this /\/\ if you understand that? make em flow the same way. if you havent checked out the new to graffiti thread in this side of the forum you should cause its really helpful.

ill post pics for all the talking soon but my cam shit itself this week and hasnt wiped its ass yet.

GuyGuyer of Guyland
06-03-2010, 10:24 PM
http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/ad240/Meph_one/ae86.jpg

did this a while ago, just wanted to post it up looking for crits

kilt- i like the first one a lot, the second one just looks awkward

tofe- I see you improving but i dont like that E

your perspective is off a bit at the end of the car, but its done real well


http://i46.tinypic.com/fnbx9i.jpg
exchange for rasek. S came out shitty.

thanks homie, looks awesome! ill have yours up soon, just got off work. gonna finish the outline tonight

RES4
06-04-2010, 04:02 AM
http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/ad240/Meph_one/ae86.jpg

the top should be parallel to the bottom of the windscreen which should be parallel to the front which should be parallel to the bottom, right?

other than that its good

FlippingChickens
06-04-2010, 08:34 AM
empty - came out straight homie,ill do you one today...gonna try and rock a few outlines today,ill be back later...

zenegan - dam those letters are sharp,real nice.

meph - came out nice,ur good with characters maybe do one sticking its head out the window or leaning by the car or something

zennegen
06-04-2010, 09:45 AM
thanks alot, guys.i'll post more flciks later.

oh_kilts
06-04-2010, 01:13 PM
hokay, heres a new one. I took out the bends going in random directions and put them all going to the right (which is what i think you guys ment), removed the tumor on the K and flattened out the T - I also added an S, because S's are rad and I like drawing them, lol.

http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/ad226/a_better_bard/kilts.jpg

Meph*
06-04-2010, 01:25 PM
tofe you mean like this one? lol i did this a while ago too

http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/ad240/Meph_one/pursuit.jpg

Meph*
06-04-2010, 01:28 PM
kilt- the i is too far behind the k and i dont like it following the same lines as the L, just an honest opinion

pleasedontstayr
06-04-2010, 02:15 PM
kilt i like the fact you took the advice man, good job, its lookin decent for how new you are but like the guy above me said the I is a bit too hidden and the symmetrical I and L arent working too well. following our advice lead to that mistake but its all good haha, just either try and add a small extension to that L n the back or tweak the top of that L a bit more so it pushes away from the I if you understand. if not just find your own way to space em out. either way keep it up.

RES4
06-04-2010, 03:20 PM
hokay, heres a new one. I took out the bends going in random directions and put them all going to the right (which is what i think you guys ment), removed the tumor on the K and flattened out the T - I also added an S, because S's are rad and I like drawing them, lol.

http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/ad226/a_better_bard/kilts.jpg

gettin better. next time space out the i and the l which has already been said and maybe try and smooth the bend instead of pointed like that you know?
try and make the bottom left bar of the k follow the flow of the rest. it sort of sticks out and kills the flow/movement whatever

FlippingChickens
06-04-2010, 05:47 PM
http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3333.jpg

gonna work on some letters now

-Empty-Can-
06-04-2010, 05:49 PM
haha. cool
I think the arms could be moved back a bit more though.

FlippingChickens
06-04-2010, 06:20 PM
didnt take me long considering it was just freestyle and was my 1st attempt at your letters...should have been cleaner and made all the letters on the same level...maybe ill do another one sometime

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3334.jpg

LeaksOne
06-04-2010, 06:20 PM
you gota work on that handy too. the handy with the sonic character.

pleasedontstayr
06-04-2010, 06:48 PM
dont cut your letters off like that Tofe, im talking about the T's
meh the handy is simple, just dont slant it.
same with the sketch too

http://i45.tinypic.com/5v0fwg.jpg
heres a sketch i did today in my classes, just for all the talking this week.
crits? i dont like the S.

BlacktodaFuture
06-04-2010, 07:14 PM
everyone on this page should go SIMPLER!

pleasedontstayr
06-04-2010, 07:26 PM
kilts and stot are pretty simple not gonna lie. instead of telling me to go simple why dont you give tips on how to progress my style? just a thought cause you have to eventually try new things, it wont help with people just telling you not to.

not bitchin, just sayin

Phillip McDougall
06-04-2010, 07:42 PM
He gave you criticism to progress your style. Go simpler. It'll be the most productive thing you can do right now.

I'd recommend bending your letters like < instead of like > if you're flowing that way. That S is hideous though. Keep at it. You'll get there.

pleasedontstayr
06-04-2010, 08:22 PM
yeah the S didnt come out like i wanted it to at all, thanks tho.

-Empty-Can-
06-04-2010, 08:23 PM
work on your 3D

flask1995
06-04-2010, 09:33 PM
@Kilts: Nice man, but i'm not really feeling it, but keep on trying because practice makes perfect.

@Stayr: Plus is perfect :p but you need to try more simpler, try making the U alittle more like a U because from my POV it sorta looks like a L, Your S could use alot of work too. i'm just not diggin it from ya brotha. but i'll hook you up, check your inbox in a few.

@Stot: are you serious? LOL.

_______________

My 1st time doing a SIMPLE FOR ONCE. so it may not be straight,

http://i45.tinypic.com/w8l5cj.jpg

crits?

FlippingChickens
06-04-2010, 09:38 PM
that y is wierd,dont like the bar sticking up the r and the one sticking to the left with the y,and its really skinny in that one part..a black shadow would have been better


..from worst to best...



http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3340.jpg

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3335.jpg

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3338.jpg


http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3336.jpg

flask1995
06-04-2010, 09:42 PM
ya truu, but I wanted it to match the bottom, cause if its curve, curve, straight, curve, then I didnt think it would match, but hey it's my 1st time doing shiet like this :p

-Empty-Can-
06-04-2010, 09:43 PM
@Stot: are you serious? LOL.
crits?

at?

flask1995
06-04-2010, 09:47 PM
I saw this

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3334.jpg

and i thought it was you when it was really flippinchickens.

@Tofe: keep it up man, last time you were shit but this time it's sorta better.

F is sorta weird, also same thing with the E.

-Empty-Can-
06-04-2010, 09:55 PM
oh lol.
yea im better than that :p

Inlyn08
06-05-2010, 12:48 AM
hokay, heres a new one. I took out the bends going in random directions and put them all going to the right (which is what i think you guys ment), removed the tumor on the K and flattened out the T - I also added an S, because S's are rad and I like drawing them, lol.

http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/ad226/a_better_bard/kilts.jpg

To be honest, that K doesn't look like a K at all. More like a down syndrome X. The rest of the letters have potential. Lose that K, like.. yesterday.

Inlyn08
06-05-2010, 12:55 AM
that y is wierd,dont like the bar sticking up the r and the one sticking to the left with the y,and its really skinny in that one part..a black shadow would have been better


..from worst to best...



http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3340.jpg

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3335.jpg

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3338.jpg


http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3336.jpg

Can I just say, I like how you attempt to switch up some of the style/s of your letters. However, you always stay consistent with that T. Personally speaking ( which you may not like it ) that T fucks up the possibilities on a majority of your sketches/ pieces whatever. The fact that you have these bars coming in odd directions off of the foundation of a lowercase T make it look like a mess. I would say, stop making the lowercase T with all that shit on it. 100 times. Break out of that cycle, because as much as you may like it.. it just doesn't fit with all of it.
Just saying.

||BREAD||
06-05-2010, 02:27 AM
^ word.

ManeMan
06-05-2010, 03:26 AM
kiltz- All I can say is whats been said.
Tofe- I think that looks dope.
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/2985/img0401te.jpg
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/3531/img0403rg.jpg
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9369/img0404zc.jpg
hella fucked up that e.

pleasedontstayr
06-05-2010, 09:17 AM
@Stayr: Plus is perfect :p but you need to try more simpler, try making the U alittle more like a U because from my POV it sorta looks like a L, Your S could use alot of work too. i'm just not diggin it from ya brotha. but i'll hook you up, check your inbox in a few.


are you talkin facebook inbox or on here man? i dont have an inbox on either account. Thanks for the crits though, i made the U to match the L on purpose. The only letter i really like in this is the P. ive been testing it out alot the past bit and just finally fit it into a sketch. trying to get a style to match it

woonybomber
06-05-2010, 11:17 AM
@kilts: Nice man, but i'm not really feeling it, but keep on trying because practice makes perfect.

@stayr: Plus is perfect :p but you need to try more simpler, try making the u alittle more like a u because from my pov it sorta looks like a l, your s could use alot of work too. I'm just not diggin it from ya brotha. But i'll hook you up, check your inbox in a few.

@stot: Are you serious? Lol.

_______________

my 1st time doing a simple for once. So it may not be straight,

http://i45.tinypic.com/w8l5cj.jpg

crits?key bored lattersss
use stright bars for now till you get the bending them part down

Sbal
06-05-2010, 01:46 PM
Emane what the fuck is up with that second E it looks like a Q and that M looks like an R

Flawless Victory
06-05-2010, 03:59 PM
This shit count as black book?
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/5486/016cc.jpg
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/6976/009bl.jpg

Phillip McDougall
06-05-2010, 04:08 PM
Dopeskiesss.

LeaksOne
06-05-2010, 04:09 PM
another name change?

Flawless Victory
06-05-2010, 04:12 PM
Nah, cunt juice is just funny.

LeaksOne
06-05-2010, 04:14 PM
oh. you suck anyways ;)

Flawless Victory
06-05-2010, 04:15 PM
word.

ManeMan
06-05-2010, 04:47 PM
Emane what the fuck is up with that second E it looks like a Q and that M looks like an R

"Hella fucked up that e."
All my E's are wack because I havent practiced them. I always just turned em into faces/characters. I kinda see how the M could look like an R, I'll fool around with it. But thanks for pointing out what I need to work on most.

LeaksOne
06-05-2010, 04:58 PM
why do you write emane? why not just mane?

mawks
06-05-2010, 05:40 PM
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y55/flomar/---/Image059-2.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y55/flomar/---/Image049.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y55/flomar/---/Image043-4.jpg

NosE2
06-06-2010, 01:24 AM
crits...?
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4262/ewew.jpg
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/462/burniny.jpg

ManeMan
06-06-2010, 05:08 AM
eManE- thats ME

RES4
06-06-2010, 05:25 AM
http://i45.tinypic.com/w8l5cj.jpg

you dont need to do keyboard letters, your past that imo. just fix the y and clean up the s. the r is good tho

woonybomber
06-06-2010, 08:21 AM
dude no dont lisen to him im telling you go to strights your dont got the bending part down your bars are not all the same im juss trying to help you and this guy dont know wat he is saying and work on makeing stright line your lines are like ~ and shit

RES4
06-06-2010, 08:47 AM
show us some of you letters woony

and i'l say it again, your letters are decent, no need to go any simpler alright? trust me

Phillip McDougall
06-06-2010, 10:52 AM
Res is right. Just fix the Y and clean up the S.

YaPp3RoN3R
06-06-2010, 04:23 PM
This shit count as black book?
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/5486/016cc.jpg
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/6976/009bl.jpg

i dnt know where your from ,, but in ky ....... there is this crew called fst . and there is a guy juice , he is crushing u and is a local legend , im sure u heard of his freind dark? or maybe dues?

i suggest a name change

RES4
06-06-2010, 04:30 PM
u should have read the last page. he doesnt write that hes just doing it for a laugh

and its good btw, are you gonna put it back up?

zennegen
06-06-2010, 09:36 PM
This shit count as black book?
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/5486/016cc.jpg
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/6976/009bl.jpg

not even about to give a ***** credit? well damn.

RedEyes
06-06-2010, 11:18 PM
Some new shit.
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f327/olredeyes/Photo11-4.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f327/olredeyes/Photo5-6.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f327/olredeyes/Photo3-3.jpg

Flawless Victory
06-06-2010, 11:47 PM
i dnt know where your from ,, but in ky ....... there is this crew called fst . and there is a guy juice , he is crushing u and is a local legend , im sure u heard of his freind dark? or maybe dues?

i suggest a name change
It says CUNT JUICE you fucking twit.
I've never heard of any of them, and Kentucky is full of meth and fucking rednecks, so who the fuck cares about them anyway?

LeaksOne
06-06-2010, 11:50 PM
WHOA flaw calm down man haha.

Flawless Victory
06-06-2010, 11:53 PM
http://spectre-net.co.nz/ch0n/b/src/126956093891.jpg

Phillip McDougall
06-07-2010, 12:09 AM
^^^
I see what you did thar. I actually was going to use that face and post them everywhere with stickers, but I feel my name wouldn't go with it...

ZEN. YOU BETTER BITE MY IDEA RIGHT NOW. YOUR NAME FITS IT PERFECTLY.

speaking of which.


not even about to give a ***** credit? well damn.

Considering "U" is the first letter in your real name, it should look much better than the one you posted. Not too shabby though. Keep at it.

LeaksOne
06-07-2010, 12:13 AM
word.

Zen, the U should look like the N upsidedown cause the N is raw.

zennegen
06-07-2010, 09:45 AM
word.

Zen, the U should look like the N upsidedown cause the N is raw.

haha thanks man. i actually wasn't diggin the N at all.

NosE2
06-07-2010, 10:12 AM
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/5210/1114jj.jpg
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/913/awal.jpg
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5549/obsoe.jpg
http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/1523/ewlawal.jpg

Phat 2
06-07-2010, 10:26 AM
3rd flick looks good what does it say though? OBSOE?

DivinO
06-07-2010, 10:51 AM
Eh. Digital.

Ysatis.

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m183/theroninexe/path3783.png
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m183/theroninexe/path4440.png

Xfish
06-07-2010, 10:54 AM
simple shit
crits?

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/7448/img000027g.jpg (http://img194.imageshack.us/i/img000027g.jpg/)

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DivinO
06-07-2010, 10:58 AM
simple shit
crits?

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/7448/img000027g.jpg (http://img194.imageshack.us/i/img000027g.jpg/)

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I'm not fantastic but I think cleaner lines and more defined letters would be a good start.

RES4
06-07-2010, 11:23 AM
use bars.

4ENOD
06-07-2010, 12:15 PM
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb265/Jaimes420187/101_3810.jpg
_____
Done4:confused:

RES4
06-07-2010, 12:33 PM
no

4ENOD
06-07-2010, 01:17 PM
the sketch wasn't done in 2007 but could i get some crits/advise?
Thanks

FlippingChickens
06-07-2010, 03:53 PM
http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3346.jpg
http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3347.jpg
http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3341.jpg

KNS13
06-07-2010, 04:13 PM
crits?
http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu261/Kema13/Photo04802.jpg

KNS13
06-07-2010, 04:14 PM
crits?
http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu261/Kema13/Photo04802.jpg

KNS13
06-07-2010, 04:15 PM
my bad on the triple post:/

kace91
06-07-2010, 04:28 PM
i like it, though if i were you i would take out the dot over the j, and also change the lower bar of the z, it seems like it doesnt match with the rest.

4ENOD
06-07-2010, 04:51 PM
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb265/Jaimes420187/101_3817.jpg
?

zennegen
06-07-2010, 05:11 PM
lol this thread is hopeless. if you have to ask crits for straight up keyboard letters, you're trollin. seriously. it's all been said before, use bars, cleaner lines, etc.

RASEK you owe me an exchange, buddy.

2FNK?
06-07-2010, 06:29 PM
TOFE- O needs work in the second one, why's it different than the rest yo' letters. E needs a middle line in the 3rd one...

Hearr!
06-07-2010, 06:37 PM
constructive crits on this? I wouldn't consider myself a toy, but I know I'm not good enough to post in the normal blackbook thread. intermediate maybe?

zbre
http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv343/aktreonest/Picture1226.jpg

4ENOD
06-07-2010, 06:43 PM
pretty dope style their
zbre!

RedEyes
06-07-2010, 06:54 PM
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f327/olredeyes/Photo3-3.jpg

Hearr!
06-07-2010, 06:56 PM
angle the two vertical bars on the A more towards each other, so the intersect more. and the LT looks like it's angle more upwards then the PA. make sure all your letters are angled in the same direction. and the rounded top part of the P is too skinny. yo?

*edit. sorry, these crits don't really make sense seeing as you changed your image.

BlacktodaFuture
06-07-2010, 07:15 PM
http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv35/Snowmonkey117/DSCF1655.jpg?t=1275954623

red eyes: watch your structre/flow on that S.
zbre: i like that style, really original. Just be careful with that R. Wasn't able to really tell whether it was an R or a X. And that Z can be mistaken for a lower case E.
tofe: better but work on flow and just because you are using bars doesn't mean you are using letter structure. watch where you are putting them.

FlippingChickens
06-07-2010, 07:25 PM
whats with those triangles your putting in every letter? all the letters need work but i say focus mainly on the a and r and e for now

Sbal
06-07-2010, 07:42 PM
Safe that a looks gross, the F doesnt go out far enough, and the e goes too far. PS No ones gonna suck your dick

BlacktodaFuture
06-07-2010, 08:03 PM
The A is gross. i agree. i've been working on a few different ones.
the triangle things on every single letter is called flow. (doing the same thing to each letter making it consistent, like how the bottom of the S is balancing out the bottom of the E) and the F is more hidden then the E bc an F can easily be mistaken for an E. trying to make it more prominent to being an F and different. still got a few kinks to work out. thx for the crits though.

mfatik88
06-07-2010, 08:11 PM
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/8986/img1274g.jpg (http://img72.imageshack.us/i/img1274g.jpg/)

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any crits appreciated

LeaksOne
06-07-2010, 08:52 PM
constructive crits on this? I wouldn't consider myself a toy, but I know I'm not good enough to post in the normal blackbook thread. intermediate maybe?

zbre
http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv343/aktreonest/Picture1226.jpg

i really like this. only thing i would say is tweak the R a bit