Blackbooks

[NosE2]

Hahahaha, damn, that really cracked me up. I needed a good laugh. How old are you, 30? I never said I was the overseer of style. I just said you don't have any. Out of all the 7 or 8 pictures you posted, none of them progressed, whatsoever. I feel you on the not painting, too much to risk, etc, I understand. I'm not trying to be a dick...you asked for crits, I gave what I think about your work. If you didn't want to get butthurt, maybe you shouldn't have come here. Yes I do understand the concept of individual style...you're style was my style in 6th grade. I'm done arguing with you, just keep drawing, and try some straight letters, or somethin'....I'd also like to see some of your painted shit, if you have any pictures.


Edit: Show some of your shit off.....hahaha, there's nothing whatsoever to show off...I'd be hiding that shit.

[.newk.]

I'd also like to see some of your painted shit, if you have any pictures.


Edit: Show some of your shit off.....hahaha, there's nothing whatsoever to show off...I'd be hiding that shit.

You're right, maybe I should've stayed away. Is that the advice you give to everyone who isn't up to "par" with your ideals of "good art"? Who are you to say I have no style? 90% of the shit you posted is bland and whack. No wonder people get up all over your shit, it's shit. No pics of my painted stuff except a HORRIBLE piece that started off good but fucking sprinklers came on while I was painting (4am) and ruined it. I try and keep evidence to a minimum.

And what good is it to keep all your work to yourself when you could have welcoming individuals such as yourself giving such helpful advice? You need to get off your own nuts.

[NosE2]

This is the last time I'm going to respond, and I'll try not to be a dick, or "on my own nuts". DRAW. and Draw some more. What should you do after that? Draw some more, again. The more you draw, the more you progress...You will figure your own style out soon enough...it just seems like you are trying to force some of your shit, I don't know. Good luck, keep postin', I'd like to see you get better.

[.newk.]

This is the last time I'm going to respond, and I'll try not to be a dick, or "on my own nuts". DRAW. and Draw some more. What should you do after that? Draw some more, again. The more you draw, the more you progress...You will figure your own style out soon enough...it just seems like you are trying to force some of your shit, I don't know. Good luck, keep postin', I'd like to see you get better.

Thanks for the non-condescending, somewhat helpful and overall NICE post. This is how it should've started out. I'm not here to start shit with anyone and maybe I'll learn a thing or 2 around here. Like I said, this isn't something I take too seriously. It's just a fun way to burn some steam.

Also, I may take one of my favorite markers and go hit up some spots around here just for nostalgia sake. Nothing crazy, just some tags here and there :cool:

[pointman]

Ok this is my first attempt at anything graffiti wise it looks pretty shitty out of proportion ect, but i guess i will be able to see myself improve over time through this forum.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5284/5249598157_ed8115cb44.jpg

[Phat 2]

newk
nose2 is right, your works aren't impressive for someone who has been doing it for 8 years
I know that you're doing it for fun and not to get up. and I know that every artistic mind has the right to express itself the way it wants without being bound by any rules whatsoever.
-BUT-
the kind of graffiti you're doing doesn't belong in the artistic half of the game. it belongs in the typographic one. it's called writing, you're not drawing anything, you're WRITING your name... they're letters. and letters in theory, have structure. people majoring in graphic design or arts in general go through a typography class where they learn about letter structure, word placement, dimensions, kernings, spacings etc... other people learn it on their own with time and practice. other people have really good handwriting and are just simply kinda "born with the talent" if you wanna put it like that.

bottom line is, whether you're a toy or a king, have been writing for a day or a decade, there are global typographic rules and norms that define whether a piece is good or bad.
nose2's comments weren't really subjective. if you want to improve, you have to learn some typography, because you clearly werent born with a talent and haven't progressed with time.
so either invest in some typograhy courses, or practice practice practice on your own by starting from zero, from simple straight letter pieces.

hope this helped clear things out

[Flawless Victory]

HOLY SHIT, 8 years dude?!
You either need to find another form of stress relief or just fuckin' kill yourself.
But, for your sake, I'm going to assume you lied about the 8 year thing.

[Rask Wsk LA]

quick simples, fucked up on the 3D

[swae101]

thanks for the crits everyone
ill be sure to fix my errors on my next piece

[thepekins]

Dont write rask

[thepekins]

dont write rask...

[Rask Wsk LA]

ima continue writing, cause where i live theres no problems with it, so fuck you

[Flawless Victory]

http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/6766/1290990141180.jpg

[.newk.]

newk...

Thanks for the comments my man. I haven't really focused on progressing in a loooong time and just recently I figured there isn't any reason NOT to progress. I've always had decent (at worst) handwriting but after HS I quit dabbling into visual arts. It's taken a bit to get back into the "swing of things" so to speak and I'll be gracing you fellas with some more toy shit in the near future. I've gotten caught up in moving on with life that I left art behind, and I'm realizing that was part of what got me through a lot of tough times.


HOLY SHIT, 8 years dude?!
You either need to find another form of stress relief or just fuckin' kill yourself.
But, for your sake, I'm going to assume you lied about the 8 year thing.

I never said 8 years straight. I started graffiti-style art (at least) 8 years ago (I'm 24 now and started before I had my license @ 16), but it's been off and on and I never really tried to progress much as I had other things going on (College, work, etc...). Such is life though. As far as stress relief, I work on my car when I have the time/money and ride my bike almost every day. Just when I pack up a bowl and want to let my mind wander, this is what I come up with. I suppose I should post on a more "art" related forum but I'm just writing a name and figured there would still be a decent graf community around, as was the case when I was in HS. Turns out it's 90% young bucks who think their toy-ass doodles are hot shit and want to shit on everyone and 10% old school heads who know what it's like to be a toy and like to be ambassadors for the community, if you will. What's the sense in shitting on someone else if not to make yourself feel better about YOU? I'd love to know.

[TastyMcNasty]

yo i know my shit isnt that good... but anyone down for a friendly battle or exchange pm me cause i want to fuck around with other letters...
newk- i;m not saying stop writing (i understand the whole stress relief thing :/) but simple the shit up a bit (i.e lose the arrows and extension) believe me youll be alot more impressed with your own work///

[.newk.]

yo i know my shit isnt that good... but anyone down for a friendly battle or exchange pm me cause i want to fuck around with other letters...
newk- i;m not saying stop writing (i understand the whole stress relief thing :/) but simple the shit up a bit (i.e lose the arrows and extension) believe me youll be alot more impressed with your own work///

I feel ya dude, I'm usually toked up a bit when I write and tend to take things a little past my abilities. I understand when someone said that i looked "forced". Sometimes I feel like I'm forcing the extensions and details. I'll make sure to post up some straight letters I've done. I guess I figured people would like the more "extravagant" pieces but I guess that was my bad. If you want to swap out some shit PM me. I'm always down to try out new letters and combinations.

[YeSnOmAyBe]

http://www.bombingscience.com/graffitiforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14642 well dis is only pic i uploaded so far crits is welcome tell me wat good dog ill put mo up later holla at a ***** im out

diggin the fillski

[YeSnOmAyBe]

quick simples, fucked up on the 3D

i like the arrow at the end of the handy
good straight straight letter too also good shadowing

[PegCityBoy]

@Newk i don't wanna come of sounding like a dick so please don't read it that way. i've been writing for about 6 years (which is embarassing for someone who's at my level), but for about 4 of those years i was doing stuff like you're doing now, no structure, not really worrying that much. then this other head told me to forget my whack shit and start doing some straight simps an shit. ever since my stuff has progressed like a mofo and looks half decent. i know what your sayin about just relieving stress and you're doin your own thing an shit but once you start putting out some stuff with style and flow it feels a hell of a lot better not only doing it but looking back at it after.

flick for talking
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs009.snc4/33791_10150349028290363_525320362_16221598_3056824 _n.jpg

[.newk.]

@Newk i don't wanna come of sounding like a dick so please don't read it that way. i've been writing for about 6 years (which is embarassing for someone who's at my level), but for about 4 of those years i was doing stuff like you're doing now, no structure, not really worrying that much. then this other head told me to forget my whack shit and start doing some straight simps an shit. ever since my stuff has progressed like a mofo and looks half decent. i know what your sayin about just relieving stress and you're doin your own thing an shit but once you start putting out some stuff with style and flow it feels a hell of a lot better not only doing it but looking back at it after.

Thanks for the words. I'm definitely going to try and put some effort forth now that I have some people pushing me to actually progress. I never really had the drive to when I had other shit to worry about.

[YeSnOmAyBe]

quick bomb for the battle crits please:) well besides the lazy r

[anarone]

@ Peg City Boy... I understand where your coming from because ive wrote for 2 years but i started on a forum and did my research after seeing stuff on the tracks... However ive seen alot of people come along who's been writing 2 years but haven't used the internet but the internets possibly one of the best places to start nowadays i learnt so much about structure and stuff and people who join and don't know about structure are in an illusion that nothing is wrong with their work and that they rock some good shit (MINDGEM FORUM), hell half wont even listen to you...

As for crits...
Im not too sure... the shape of the S seems awkards... the bottom of it annoys me. I like the M... Make the O a little bit more visual. Clean your lines up etc.

[3mpolack]

Some garbage i made a while back please crit, though keep in mind im a toy
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs283.snc3/27805_1475982987952_1485031718_1196030_8206630_n.j pg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs263.snc3/27805_1475983147956_1485031718_1196031_3282264_n.j pg
http://http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs283.snc3/27805_1475983187957_1485031718_1196032_4532496_n.j pg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs296.snc3/28481_1502884380470_1485031718_1268470_816775_n.jp g
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs083.ash2/37465_1536461699882_1485031718_1353096_2840952_n.j pg

[[breakout]-azer]

haven't written in two years but i thought id give writing another crack :) now writing bavi

http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc465/bavi137/2010-12-1117-03-18722.jpg

crits :)

[3mpolack]

Some garbage i made a while back please crit, though keep in mind im a toy
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs283.snc3/27805_1475982987952_1485031718_1196030_8206630_n.j pg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs263.snc3/27805_1475983147956_1485031718_1196031_3282264_n.j pg
http://http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs283.snc3/27805_1475983187957_1485031718_1196032_4532496_n.j pg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs296.snc3/28481_1502884380470_1485031718_1268470_816775_n.jp g
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs083.ash2/37465_1536461699882_1485031718_1353096_2840952_n.j pg

[TastyMcNasty]

breakout- for not writing for 2 years that shits actually pre decent...
3mpolak- SIMPLE! loose all the arrows all the extensions and all the connections! and for now worry about structure and not fills or characters...

[[breakout]-azer]

-azer;1686346']haven't written in two years but i thought id give writing another crack :) now writing bavi

http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc465/bavi137/2010-12-1117-03-18722.jpg

crits :)

bump end of page

[Phillip McDougall]

Trying too hard. Simpler. Bring your letters closer together, make them more uniform. Quit trying to throw flares everywhere.

[thepekins]

ima continue writing, cause where i live theres no problems with it, so fuck you

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/1958/rask.jpg (http://img834.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rask.jpg)

lol this is rask fucker. so you shouldnt write it. If you wanna be gay and keep on doing it then go for it i dont care that much

[ian]

dude newk, you gotta just humble up and take advice for what it is. no ones attacking you, no ones saying theyre hot shit, and no ones being a dick. i came on here, tried to do a piece battle, thought it was nice, and got totally shit on. i was doin the same thing as you. you're trying to do advanced stuff before you can do the basics. lose arrows lose extensions and just about everything. check the new to graffiti thread (even though you're technically not "new"). Bite the keyboard, stick to simps and then you'll start to get a feel for it. just don't get so defensive and take advice for advice. your shit was pretty weak, and people arent gonna hesitate to tell you that on here.

[upper90daynnight]

just wondering if im any good im open to negative and positive feedback and which one is the best
also the USC trojan one has my tag in it if theres any crits on that as well

[TastyMcNasty]

yes... you are VERY toy... like i keep on saying loose the extensions the arrows etc. and stop doing fills... keyboard letters are a good reference to start...

[NosE2]

Am I a Toy?
http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/2368/yesyesitdpes.jpg

[ribcage]

^haha!

upper90 make sure people can read your shit before you color it, and choose colors that arent gonna blend togethor and make your letters look like blobs of color smushed together, only one i can read is the last one

[YeSnOmAyBe]

[QUOTE=3mpolack;1686349]Some garbage i made a while back please crit, though keep in mind im a toy

edit your double post

[pointman]

Quickly drew up some other shit today after work this is my second attempt at graffiti i should say http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5170/5253041556_8474f34788.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5129/5253041868_e8b4124c5a.jpg
Changed the lettering to sato as i just think its a nice formation hopefully no one else is on road with this name?

[upper90daynnight]

thanks and what do you mean by fills?

[408Bomber]

Some garbage i made a while back please crit, though keep in mind im a toy
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs283.snc3/27805_1475982987952_1485031718_1196030_8206630_n.j pg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs263.snc3/27805_1475983147956_1485031718_1196031_3282264_n.j pg
http://http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs283.snc3/27805_1475983187957_1485031718_1196032_4532496_n.j pg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs296.snc3/28481_1502884380470_1485031718_1268470_816775_n.jp g
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs083.ash2/37465_1536461699882_1485031718_1353096_2840952_n.j pg
Simples bro. Get a piece of binder paper and do your name exactley how the letters are on you'r keyboard.


-azer;1686346']haven't written in two years but i thought id give writing another crack :) now writing bavi

http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc465/bavi137/2010-12-1117-03-18722.jpg

crits :)
I like this alot actualy, Im not feeling the arrow coming out of the A, maybe try and make it smaller or use a simple bar.




did this last night!!!
http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss344/BanditxSwagg/Graffiti/knine.jpg

Please give honest crits, I don't like how the 3d on the E is but blehh hard to even it out compared to the K.

[408Bomber]

thanks and what do you mean by fills?
A fill is how you color your piece bro. Hence the name FILL.

your welcome :cool:

[upper90daynnight]

and any suggestions on which style to go with?

[408Bomber]

and any suggestions on which style to go with?

of course,everybody has thier own potential the key to it is unlocking it. As for style you have to make up your own style.

but for now stick to keyboard letters. what do yu write? ill show you what yu should be doing.

[upper90daynnight]

I usually do "SICK" but ive never really decided on one yet and thanks so much

[408Bomber]

I usually do "SICK" but ive never really decided on one yet and thanks so much

Well take sometime right now and think of 3-5 letters you like and try an form a name with them.

Think of words and how you can alter them, like my name for example
Canine - KNINE
Unque - UNEEK
Can Too - Can2


Get it?

[upper90daynnight]

Yea i do thanks umm okay STYUL

[408Bomber]

might wanna try something differant lol.....

sleep on it bro, remember your name is a respresentation of you! Find something that inside your mind,body,and soul yu feel is just so right.

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss344/BanditxSwagg/Graffiti/knine.jpg
bump for crits?

[upper90daynnight]

thanks again so much

[MoganOne]

Lolzy

[408Bomber]

No problem bro. That's what this community is for, helpng eachother out
United We Write!!!

[YeSnOmAyBe]

k9 lose the details in the 3d try to relax and draw straight lines it looks like your forcing it, you cant force your self to be creative..

[Rask Wsk LA]

this is kinda w/e but just lookin for a little bit of critique.

I know that thats the famous rask, i dont care, pretty surre he writes in a different continent than me, and if not w/e everyone writeseverything

[thepekins]

whatever dude but if your writing rask, everyone will think you're toy

[upper90daynnight]

alright i really like the letter R, A, E, S so I does RASE sound okay?

[BlacktodaFuture]

so write raes.....

[upper90daynnight]

alright ill try it and post it asap thanks

[upper90daynnight]

alright now how can i make the lettering better? this is just a really quick sketch so things arent real cleaned up

[Rask Wsk LA]

start simple

[thepekins]

rask you should battle me. just cus im bored

[upper90daynnight]

heres my simple where to go from here obviously modify letters but any specific advice as far as that goes?

[kringe]

You have to just keep doing simples for a while mann.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5128/5255413470_fea084b5f4_z.jpg
School sketch turned full pager
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5001/5254600337_8744660474_b.jpg
Art project.

[Rask Wsk LA]

take that simple, and squish it together alittle

Edit: @thepekins , um alright but im not that good

[ian]

@Rask, i like that piece dude, clean up the fill a bit but it looks pretty nice
@Raes, try curvin the S instead of doin it straight lines like that, you curved the R so do the same with the S. focus on bar consistency, lose the 3d for now and just do keyboard letters. once you're comfortable with that, move the letters together and start to overlap them, then maybe try a vanishing point for 3d, when you get good at that is when you can start messing around with shapes and stuff, but until then, keep it as simple as you can. it may sound boring, but this isnt something you can learn overnight

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/9894/imag0255a.jpg

got around to coloring this one finally, dont really like the 1, and the 3 didnt turn out great either, and whoever suggested the x-ray thing, i was gonna do that, but i fucked it up. crits pleaseeee

[Rask Wsk LA]

just a quick simple + arrows. that oct31 came out dope, the pumpkin is killin that shit, hit a christmas style

[MoganOne]

Rask the places you put the Arrows coming out of are very weak bro... I like how simple the letters are.. And the handy is not bad you are on the right foot

[YeSnOmAyBe]

still loving the rask handy... try to put the arrow where they will flow out in stead of being fourced out. think of an arrow as just an exstension off the bar you just drew

[IbuprofenTablets]

Crits on my throw ups, and my wildstyle?

I know that if I change the number on the tag, I can right it.
i cudnt think of a word to tag, so i tok the easy waj ouut
http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af170/DirtyBed/Photo164.jpg
http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af170/DirtyBed/Photo166.jpg

[MoganOne]

LOL get the fuuk outta here with that ni99a... :D

[IbuprofenTablets]

Crits on my throw ups, and my wildstyle?

I know that if I change the number on the tag, I can right it.
i cudnt think of a word to tag, so i tok the easy waj ouut
http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af170/DirtyBed/Photo164.jpg
http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af170/DirtyBed/Photo166.jpg


Bottom page bump.

It was a quick 5minute sketch; I was in a rush.
Although I think it cam out gud
it might b a litle shaky thoug


@Rask wsk:
ur work needs imporovmint
you need to add more arrows to properly express yourselfin graff; rule #1.
Work on your graff overall.
Youve got a lon way to go freind

[TastyMcNasty]

^^just stop right there...

[ian]

lololololololol lovin this thread right about now

[Rask Wsk LA]

any of you guys know HOFK or MSK in La?

[IbuprofenTablets]

^^just stop right there...

Shut the fuck up, I bet I'm better than you.

I've been writing for about 5years, how about you?

I'll show you some shit from when I started and I bet it's still better than your shit.


http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af170/DirtyBed/Photo22.jpg
http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af170/DirtyBed/Photo24.jpg

[Rask Wsk LA]

im feelin that 3

[IbuprofenTablets]

Thank you.
I think I cane a long way from f5ive yeqrs ago.
dont yuo think?

[Rask Wsk LA]

only 5?????? wtf i thought like 20!

[ian]

sasrcasm FTW, loling over this

[TastyMcNasty]

lol this shit is funny...

[sziv]

Crits on my throw ups, and my wildstyle?

I know that if I change the number on the tag, I can right it.
i cudnt think of a word to tag, so i tok the easy waj ouut
http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af170/DirtyBed/Photo164.jpg
http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af170/DirtyBed/Photo166.jpg

duuude what is wrong with you ?!?!?! MOOAARRR AARROOWWSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TastyMcNasty]

silliness... this is getting really silly

[Phillip McDougall]

any of you guys know HOFK or MSK in La?

MSK is worldwide -___-

But I know HOFK. I knew a couple kids who got down with them. I literally mean kids though, so I didn't take them too seriously. I only saw like 3 people putting in any work.

[YeSnOmAyBe]

shut the fuck up, i bet i'm better than you.

I've been writing for about 5years, how about you?

I'll show you some shit from when i started and i bet it's still better than your shit.


http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af170/dirtybed/photo22.jpg
http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af170/dirtybed/photo24.jpg

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this shit right here! This shit right here niggga!

[HugzNotThugz]

Got no one to give crits to..

1472314724

tryin some reeal weird stuff for me, might experiment with it more

[weedeater]

top ones dope, but im not feeling the top of the right bar on the k, and im loving that first e on the bottom.

[Rask Wsk LA]

Hofk is pretty known in la, and you could catch a good amount of hands in my area. only see msk in la tho.

[Minx]

That tag is dope...

[M3KA1!]

holy shit ibuprofen. you've progressed sooooo much. i wanna see that shit painted! :D

[ian]

hugz, liking the first besides that K, as someone else mentioned. interesting style though. handie looks good too

christmas themer!
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/4761/imag0259z.jpg
says Xmas, i understand the X and s are pretty abstract but whatev, the house looks a tad off in the picture too, but thats kinda from the camera angle, kinda cuz i drew it quickly. lemme know whatcha think?

[Phillip McDougall]

Hofk is pretty known in la, and you could catch a good amount of hands in my area. only see msk in la tho.

Yeah, they're well known, but I haven't seen anything worthwhile, really. Good coverage, thoughh

[M3KA1!]

Ian what you got goin on there?

[50Cent]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs736.ash1/162956_182461205097610_100000011941671_679797_2611 120_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs413.snc4/47614_182461445097586_100000011941671_679799_30790 33_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs953.snc4/74644_182461565097574_100000011941671_679801_71422 91_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs470.ash2/74317_176059389071125_100000011941671_638464_47083 89_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs483.ash2/75615_178682265475504_100000011941671_654995_15834 09_n.jpg

Need Feedback.

[ian]

Ian what you got goin on there?

not too sure lol, just christmas-ey stuff kinda all thrown together

[M3KA1!]

oic. fair enough. as you were sir

[Sbal]

i dont see the x at all and that house needs a vanishing point, it stretches out in a weird way

[Gatsoi]

http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac9/gatsoi/Picture0001.jpg
http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac9/gatsoi/Picture0002.jpg

[weedeater]

i like the colors and letters on the bottom one, but the W is a little stretched and the 3d is off. and with that forcefield, i would just follow the contour of the letters as opposed to filling in the dead space.

[Gatsoi]

Ard

[ian]

i dont see the x at all and that house needs a vanishing point, it stretches out in a weird way

yeah thats definately the weakest point. the X is the top of the roof you can see with the chimney and icicle, idk what i was thinking but whatever

[omesandvoltage]

http://i857.photobucket.com/albums/ab135/omesixer/Photoon2010-12-13at1856.jpg
http://i857.photobucket.com/albums/ab135/omesixer/Photoon2010-12-13at1855.jpg

[kringe]

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5289/5262102256_95e8fc527f_z.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5207/5261491303_813739085f_z.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5249/5262097510_4408430be8_z.jpg

Not really feeling the Sime exchange..

[AcesFirst]

Sare - i like the second and third one the best, just need work on ur bar widths and your letter alignment
Newt - love those throwies. nice N style. along with weedeater on that last one ur W's too wide and the 3d doesnt go towards the center, a little off up and left.
Ome - really like the style
Kringe - the first piece is sick, just dono about the O

[ribcage]

14787

[LeaksOne]

the fuck is going on in here? :confused:

[ViniVidiVici]

omes - that shit is pretty dope, nice style and flow.
mauf - ????????
ribvage - eh, weird negative space between the E and A, just weird negative space in general.... and the R an E are pretty whack.
Kringe - those are nice but make sure you get some better structure, it's not bad but could use some work.

[PREA672]

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u138/Stolzy805/IMG_0878.jpg

[unique93]

http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/4691346/640/4691346.jpg (http://picturepush.com/public/4691346)

[SicK-]

PREA your letters definitely need work, especially that A

[JesterOner]

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr113/KidsOnLsd/Photoon2010-12-15at18493.jpg
@kringe; dont like the first ones, second ones okay work on the M
@rib; dont like the R and E extensions go a bit simpler
@prea; not feeling it, extensions are weird
@unique; on point as alwayss


critzzz?

[FuckMcNasty]

jest - lose the felt tip pens and sort out the scaling of the letters


btw i tohught you O was a S for som reason

[thepekins]

prea we should battle.

word is BARE if you're down, or anyone else

[AcrsK]

http://i52.tinypic.com/b9duyv.jpg

A rough sketch for a body painting I'm going to do today. Wings say "Fallen Angel".

[sziv]

acrsk- dude thats pretty fukin dope, except , not really feelin the halo

[kringe]

Kringe -make sure you get some better structure, it's not bad but could use some work.

Please elaborate?

[JesterOner]

jest - lose the felt tip pens and sort out the scaling of the letters


btw i tohught you O was a S for som reason
still waiting till christmas to get some better pens aha
i like those letters fat :(

acrsk: niceee i like it but the letters but there a bit squashed

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr113/KidsOnLsd/Photoon2010-12-15at2133.jpg
cnc?

[ribcage]

14804
r is fucked so dont look at it

[JesterOner]

the e needs to be lowered so that the bar meets with the a if you get me? and the c is leaning too much. throwie looks nice tho work on the H looks like a K

[MoganOne]

http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/Albinoethiopian07/Graffiti/1214101736-1.jpg

[ribcage]

only thing ima change on that is the R, and you check your own shit bro cause im gettin bunk crits from you and then i see your shit and go wtf? I think you need to slow down on the crit giving until your own shit is better

[kringe]

Mone, that's a really bad spot for that break in the O. It makes it look too much like a C.
And the left side of the M is too thick. And too straight, as is the left of the n.

Euro, watch your widths. Don't slant the piece upward.
On the one on the top of the page,....yeah don't do that.

Reach, your R is structurally wrong. Have the leg come out of the bottom of the loop of the R, instead of the backbone. And then the shit Joker said
And don't be scared to bend the bars so that for instance, the e actually looks like the one here, e

Acrsk, watch your widths, and the style varies a lot. And it's squished.

[Diesel]

unique - sick as hell what did u use to color? and it needs more color...do another one with fill

[JesterOner]

yeh i get you but you cant improve if your not getting harsh critz? but yeh i'll slow down on the critz

[ribcage]

nah the crits werent harsh, thats not what i was sayin at all, just it seem like your just givin the crits so some1 will crit your shit instead of thinkin it out and givin 1 that is actually helpful, if anything i would say give a harsher crit then you did and be more thorough if you want people to know what you mean

@kring yea...but that e is not curved on purpose bro, rounded e wouldnt have fit the style of the rest

[kringe]

@kring yea...but that e is not curved on purpose bro, rounded e wouldnt have fit the style of the rest

It was just an example. I meant to do all of your letters like that. It's too blocky.
And take the crits that joker gave you. All of it is right, besides about the throw being nice.

[ribcage]

"its too blocky" hahahaha yeah oookay. And i get it, you dont like it cause u could do better/know everything, now stfu about it, there will be more for you to dislike shortly after i finish this 3d

[kringe]

Let me ask you this. Why do you post your shit? You obviously don't want crits, you've disregarded all that you have gotten so far. You don't do it because it's good and you want to show off and get props. So do you do it just to piss people off and hurt their eyes?

[Sbal]

that EURO is sick, just fatten up the middle bar of the U, cool color scheme on some iron man shit

Also RIBCAGE is a raging homosexual

[ViniVidiVici]

Would all of you shut the fuck up and stop starting all this motherfucking toy beef, HOLY SHIT! You'd think this forum was for old school kings or some shit NONE OF YOU ARE ABOVE CRITS!!!! And why the fuck would you ever tell someone to stop giving you crits, the way I see it none of you guys are above anyone else, you guys are all just horizontally different (I hope you can understand what I mean)

Mone - clean as always, you're the only one who is consistent on this thread
Reach- no man, no, stick with all caps or all lowercase, mixing an mashing looks sloppy, and if you are gonna mix and mash which I would not suggest make the e look exactly like the c then just add a middle bar
Jester - those are both pretty bad, sorry but true. You're getting ahead of yourself when it's clear structure is what you need to work on
Acrsk - the character is good but those letters are shit, just saying

[ribcage]

the fuck? Did i say i was above crits? haha nah i think yall are gettin worked up about a bad sketch

[Sbal]

i heard you like the peen

[ribcage]

^ nah, and your just clogging the thread

14808
^ boutta change the position of and probably all of the C but , but yeah tell me what u hate/think could get better on this 1

[SicK-]

Reach your shits alright but theres no flow whatsoever

[MoganOne]

Would all of you shut the fuck up and stop starting all this motherfucking toy beef, HOLY SHIT! You'd think this forum was for old school kings or some shit NONE OF YOU ARE ABOVE CRITS!!!! And why the fuck would you ever tell someone to stop giving you crits, the way I see it none of you guys are above anyone else, you guys are all just horizontally different (I hope you can understand what I mean)

Mone - clean as always, you're the only one who is consistent on this thread
Reach- no man, no, stick with all caps or all lowercase, mixing an mashing looks sloppy, and if you are gonna mix and mash which I would not suggest make the e look exactly like the c then just add a middle bar
Jester - those are both pretty bad, sorry but true. You're getting ahead of yourself when it's clear structure is what you need to work on
Acrsk - the character is good but those letters are shit, just saying
Word thanks good looking out my dude.

[M3KA1!]

Mone i would really like to see you step a little outside of yer box. yer work is good and it is indeed consistent. what you do you've got on lock but i'd like to see it go a step further. just a suggestion

[..romero..]

Reach your shits alright but theres no flow whatsoever

i think this statement is consdered an oxymoron...i say i think because i have no clue what the hell im talking about,...

[YeSnOmAyBe]

rib cage- i like the style match the cross bars with all your letters the r,e,a,h... pull the A closer to the e, also if your going to put the little flips in the R,A,H put them in all the letters

93- dope magic fresh

mone- i like the same shit as always but the o does resemble a c. also the m's beginging is a little choppy

some resent and past shiz camera dates off **

[Female]

Im going to post a one-line bubble letter. when i get home. Doing one lines would probably help me with my bubble letters

[MoganOne]

Mone i would really like to see you step a little outside of yer box. yer work is good and it is indeed consistent. what you do you've got on lock but i'd like to see it go a step further. just a suggestion

I'm picking up what your puttin down

[NosE2]

Hahaha

[M3KA1!]

I'm picking up what your puttin down

what am i puttin down? just the suggestion orrr??

[NosE2]

Some old battles, etc. Old stuff in general

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/3372/imgp3452r.jpg
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8099/imgp3455.jpg
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/3269/imgp3457v.jpg
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/9571/imgp3456x.jpg
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/8106/imgp3458d.jpg

[leash]

Shut the fuck up, I bet I'm better than you.

I've been writing for about 5years, how about you?

I'll show you some shit from when I started and I bet it's still better than your shit.


u write 5 years and still u have shaky lines....

@nos like ur last one

[kringe]

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5005/5267289576_9b8b518cd1_z.jpg
Any crits and ideas for a background is greatly appreciated.

I dig the majority of that, Nose, although, watch your widths. And, on the Smart Went Crazy one, those things....are weird. You know what things I mean..

Newt, pick a name that actually has some type of meaning to you, so that you will be more inclined to stick with it. And work on the throw a lott.

YesNoMaybe - Work on simples.

RibCage - Do keyboard letters/computer fonts.

[bait]

dope fill kringe

[TastyMcNasty]

kringe dopeness... i have no clue what you should do for a background tho...
shit from the past couple of days... im not feeling my S or A or the 3d ... always looking for crits

[Female]

Im going to post a one-line bubble letter. when i get home. Doing one lines would probably help me with my bubble letters
Ignore the D and the word at the bottom, I know the B is too small and the O is too big and the R is uneven. Feel free to crit, and the roundness is fucked.
http://i54.tinypic.com/16bzqxs.jpg

[M3KA1!]

k yea just work on tryin to keep yer letters generally the same size and proportionate. then maybe work on the flow of the whole thing and the letter structure. yer "b" can do without the crosshairs and the "r" the dolla dolla bill sign. that shit just looks silly at this point. but keep workin at it

[Culture_Shock]

Kringe, is that your crew inside your piece? fresh.

[Female]

k yea just work on tryin to keep yer letters generally the same size and proportionate. then maybe work on the flow of the whole thing and the letter structure. yer "b" can do without the crosshairs and the "r" the dolla dolla bill sign. that shit just looks silly at this point. but keep workin at it
Yeah i know i did it with only one line. so yeah ty for crit i'll work on it

[kringe]

Kringe, is that your crew inside your piece? fresh.

Nah, I write Eons 3. Tre = 3 in italian.
Although, putting crew name in the fill is also a good idea. Might use that some time.

[ghostwriter]

BORE ... keep illin highliter high hup i neeeda get me some

[Female]

BORE ... keep illin highliter high hup i neeeda get me some

hahaha mine is low on ink. i did that with out lifting the highlighter off the paper. good exercise

[ian]

Nose-i like them all, and i really like the fill on that first
kringe-looks good to me man, although idk how i feel about that o being only half as big as the others
tasty-piece looks nice, the a and the R on the second throwie look pretty similar, although its not as bad on the 3rd, just work on that but youre headed in the right direction
Female-your letters get bigger as you go, and if youre gonna do mostly lowercase i'd do them all lowercase (the B), and like someone said id lose the random stuff for now and focus on your structure

http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/9735/imag0260.jpg

Did this one for the most recent battle, lookin for some crits. Right bar of the N is a little small and this fill is kinda sloppy, but overall i like the way it turned out

[MoganOne]

what am i puttin down? just the suggestion orrr??

Yeah I here what you are sayin... I need to take it furtherfor sure...
@Nose: Slug is the shit

[ART_CRIME]

rib cage- i like the style match the cross bars with all your letters the r,e,a,h... pull the A closer to the e, also if your going to put the little flips in the R,A,H put them in all the letters

93- dope magic fresh

mone- i like the same shit as always but the o does resemble a c. also the m's beginging is a little choppy

some resent and past shiz camera dates off **
lol i write yesir.

[YeSnOmAyBe]

haha o yea post some shit up yo!

[MoganOne]

fuckin wit some pens and markers
http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/Albinoethiopian07/1217100057-1.jpg
Some chit i'm workin on
http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/Albinoethiopian07/1216102118-1.jpg

[Female]

14914
Sorry about attachment(at school). i think this one is better than the other and what should i put inside of the letters. (having problems with the letter B) Might do another E is too big.

[anarone]

Mogan i love what your doing.

Female - define the letters with dots etc and its an ok starting point.

[NosE2]

Female - Try doing straight letters now, with 3d.

Monerr- You should definitely do a whole piece with that black/green color scheme. On the bottom one it looks like you went a little big on your M and I think you can make that E look a little bit better

[Female]

Mogan i love what your doing.

Female - define the letters with dots etc and its an ok starting point.
What do you mean define the letters?


Female - Try doing straight letters now, with 3d.

Monerr- You should definitely do a whole piece with that black/green color scheme. On the bottom one it looks like you went a little big on your M and I think you can make that E look a little bit better
ok i'll work on that.

[FlippingChickens]

female i think he means like adding random shit inside the letters so u can read them with ease,like this...

http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz26/flippingchickens/IMG_0199.jpg

some ugly shit i never posted

http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz26/flippingchickens/DSCN3585.jpg
http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz26/flippingchickens/DSCN3586.jpg



Mone - the colors and cleanliness of the first one are dope,the second one is fresh but the drips would have been better if they were less thick in my opinion,the character is proper

ian - the right bar of the n is huge ,should have kept it like the left bar and it would have looked alot more clean

ribcage - watch your bar width,dont put your 3d over your letters ....

yes - the only one that is pretty decent is the first one but you need to seriously go more simple stop trying to do crazy shit

nose - that nova peice is nice and im feeling that brutal peice just not the letter b or the 3d

soar - im feeling your throwup,but in my opinion a lowercase 'a' would suit it better..also fix that thing poping out on the left side of ur s,it looks strange

[Female]

female i think he means like adding random shit inside the letters so u can read them with ease,like this...

http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz26/flippingchickens/IMG_0199.jpg

some ugly shit i never posted

http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz26/flippingchickens/DSCN3585.jpg
http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz26/flippingchickens/DSCN3586.jpg

Idk cause last time i did that. someone told me not to do that.

[FlippingChickens]

u dont have to bump the pictures there right above your post ...and i think you should do anything YOU like even if people dont agree with it. Give me a minute ima do some throws for you just for kicks

http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz26/flippingchickens/DSCN3600.jpg

http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz26/flippingchickens/DSCN3599.jpg

the letter 'b' is annoying for throwups i agree...i sujest to take influence ( not bite ) from throwups you like and work your way up from there

[MoganOne]

@Nose: Word I'm glad youliked the Black fill wit the green outline... I used a light green deco on the out line and a Micron for the fill... I want to do one with a red orange outline rather than a green naw' i mean...
Check this one... I like da E
http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/Albinoethiopian07/Graffiti/1217101616-1.jpg

[KASE2]

1492214923 here's an ambigram i did. it says scrubs

[ghostwriter]

s.l.u.g is ight Craka blacks on youtube tell me what you think

[M3KA1!]

no female i didnt mean dont do it all but dont throw so much crazy shit in there you dont know what the letter is. and you can define what a letter is without throwing swirls and dollar signs in there just by tweaking the structure. just start all the way back at simples and work yer way forward. you were onto something with the last one you did. and Mone i dig the latest shit. thasss what im talkin bout. keep on steppin outside cuz i like what im seein

[Example1]

try some outlines, some handstyles, or some characters.

Heres something of mine. not really a toy, but im not a good judge of my own shit for some reason. so ill let you guys be the judge
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z92/mystery504life/exam1.jpg

[kringe]

No, you are a toy.. That's really bad.
You both need to do simples and bars.
Bite yo' keyboard.

[Example1]

How is that "really bad"? i know its not the best but at least pretty damn decent.

[TastyMcNasty]

example- go simple and use bars before trying to that shit.,.. only thing thats "decent" about it is the fill and highlights...
lost- START SIMPLE!
repost for moar crits...

[swlost13]

well since theres clearly nothing good about the word, can some crit the character in it?

[weedeater]

http://i518.photobucket.com/albums/u350/shutter_shades_pwn/DSC03970.jpg
what should i add to this? it feels kinda "empty" if you know what i mean. im not talking colors, but like what should add around it? like bubbles and shit

http://i52.tinypic.com/2r2cfev.jpg

[ribcage]

^hahahahaha got em!!!!!

[TastyMcNasty]

lost- total bite first of alll... and your charac is aight not the best but not bad

[MoganOne]

"Lost" is lost in the sauce

[Dcicfhbimv]

Hey I did these awhile ago I'd just like a little input on how to improve or tweak my style.

[ribcage]

i like mostly everything on those, except the letters. like the colors are dope, and all the shit thats goin on like chainsaw stop sign etc look good, but i cant read the letters

[50Cent]

Inked an old sketch. Need Feedback.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs620.snc4/58026_183967711613626_100000011941671_690688_26038 25_n.jpg

[anarone]

i like mostly everything on those, except the letters. like the colors are dope, and all the shit thats goin on like chainsaw stop sign etc look good, but i cant read the letters

Thats i because his letters have no structure... you've jumped right into trying making something wild and somewhat artistic when it clearly looks like you dont understand about the basic simple letters first cause even the small simples on there aren't appealing. Copy KEYBOARD letters and create them with even width bars instead of jumping in to something where people who don't know a clue about this stuff may think its dope because of fancy colours etc @ Dcicfhbimv

50 Cent - The arrow placements in someplaces like off the side of that N are pointless - the sketch would look alot better if you just kept the letters without any necessity's as at the minute it all looks forced, however you need to watch your bar with and structure aswell but if you keep that simple you will get to where you understand where to add stuff in through time... don't just jump straight into it mate.

[swlost13]

i usually look at letters then add my own style, but i was slackin on that piece. oh wellll. it only took me like 20 minutes anyway

[Example1]

Ok, here. i did some simpler stuff,

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z92/mystery504life/examm.png

a little more complex but still simpler then the last one

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z92/mystery504life/Real.png

[BoomSlang]

you really dont understand the term "simple" do you?
i suggest you take a weekend and actually read past posts in this very thread, even if you just go back the last 500 or so pages you will see definitions on basically every other page explaining to people who bite off more than they can handle what a simple is, where to start, how to progress from a good basic starting point rather than trying to polish a piece of shit
when you are at your stage in the game it takes less time to start over from scratch than it does trying to correct everything that's wrong in your pieces.
spend some time reading and doing some legwork and i am sure things will improve, but i doubt it will happen if ya dont go back to simples

[Dcicfhbimv]

i like mostly everything on those, except the letters. like the colors are dope, and all the shit thats goin on like chainsaw stop sign etc look good, but i cant read the letters

Thanks man I'll work on it. I'm trying to come up with some more unique letter forms. So its kinda a trail and error thing.

[ribcage]

definetly need work on structure like anarone said, idk if i would go as far as to tell you to bite your keyboard yet though cause these the only things ive seen, at this point id say lose all the color and all the extra shit and focus on the letters

[Example1]

So by simple you mean something like this? Disregard the extremely crooked lines. I was trying to quit cigs when i did this and i had very shaky hands.

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z92/mystery504life/brisk.png

[ghostwriter]

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w188/sabe-2/Picture096.jpg
MY best drawing ever including throwies and peices

[TastyMcNasty]

example- closer to simple... but not quite... loose the connections in the letters , make the doton the I smaller, and loose what i think are drips? and im actually digging that B

[MoganOne]

http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/Albinoethiopian07/Graffiti/image-1.jpg

[JesterOner]

clean as ever, nice work. only critisism is that the arrow on the K is too fat cos it overlaps the other leg of the k.
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr113/KidsOnLsd/IMGP4225.jpg
mehhhh looked nice untill i uploaded it aha

[MoganOne]

What do you use to do highlights with? looks bad. Try using some thing with a more opaque white

[Example1]

example- closer to simple... but not quite... loose the connections in the letters , make the doton the I smaller, and loose what i think are drips? and im actually digging that B


Yea those are supposed to be drips... never quit cigs and try to draw. it never comes out nice...

[HugzNotThugz]

14968
may do more to the cloud, but wanted to get this up for some crits. Not happy with the way the orange turned out, specially on the K...

MONE phresh, just not feelin the ballsack looking arrow coming off the K haha
JESTER the fill would prob be real sick if wasnt such shitty markers and it blended, but props for makin do with what ya got. I dont like the cotton ball looking things and your bubbles need work

[ART_CRIME]

haha o yea post some shit up yo!

I havn't done a yesir piece in a long time but i've been writing since 02
but heres some old shit

[AnoR1oNe]

http://www.bombingscience.com/graffitiforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14979http://www.bombingscience.com/graffitiforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14978http://www.bombingscience.com/graffitiforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14642http://www.bombingscience.com/graffitiforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14980

[AnoR1oNe]

crits is welcome tell me wat up wat can be better alright holla at a g


ANoR ALL DAY

[AnoR1oNe]

anor all day crits is welcome tell me what i could be doin better wat ever but if u dont knw wat is says then u shouldnt n i am out holla at a niggz



http://www.bombingscience.com/graffitiforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14979
http://www.bombingscience.com/graffitiforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14978
http://www.bombingscience.com/graffitiforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14642
http://www.bombingscience.com/graffitiforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14980
http://www.bombingscience.com/graffitiforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14983
http://www.bombingscience.com/graffitiforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14982
http://www.bombingscience.com/graffitiforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14981

[ian]

all you damn new people come in here without checkin whats what. if you want people to crit your work, you gotta post up crits of your own. for example, instead of shit like
"crits is welcome tell me wat up wat can be better alright holla at a g


ANoR ALL DAY"

post shit like

"@whoever-lookin nice, work on that F, im not really feelin the shape
@whoever2-shits off man, only thing good about that is the s"

repeat as necessar for the last 3-5 people on here, then post your picture with any comments you have about it. thats the way shit goes around here and if youre not gonna play by the rules youre not gonna get anything from anyone


also example, for simples, click the little reply button down at the bottom of this post, and type in the word you're workin on. then, copy it exactly like that onto paper. repeat.

[extinct]

mone....exchange?? i write made

[SicK-]

Ian chill son youve been here for what a month? half these new kids are probably going to stop posting anyway it always happens.

[Example1]

http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/Albinoethiopian07/Graffiti/image-1.jpg

Im likin' the style, just not the K all that much. the bottom arrow is taking away from the word

[JesterOner]

What do you use to do highlights with? looks bad. Try using some thing with a more opaque white
i used a uni posca, it was the paper and pens i used for the fill that made it look weird..

[[breakout]-azer]

http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc465/bavi137/2010-12-1912-43-52657.jpg

crits?

[W_G_O_N_E]

art crime the slae piece is dope man

[Phillip McDougall]

Im likin' the style, just not the K all that much. the bottom arrow is taking away from the word

No it's not, it fits perfectly. This is the first Mone piece I've liked, although I still wish he did an uppercase N...

[ian]

yeah yeah sick its just annoying

[Rehz]

Azer, that shit looks tight. And is that the UK flag in the background? If so, that's sick.
AnoR1oNe, your third picture gave me a boner.

[[breakout]-azer]

yeah that england fag, need to color it in, just wanted to get some shit online :)

[Airplanefood]

Outline is sloppy as fuck (haha), but any crits?
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[MoganOne]

No it's not, it fits perfectly. This is the first Mone piece I've liked, although I still wish he did an uppercase N...
Thanks my dude... Yeah the Heart arrow workz good at killin alot of negative space... Glad you liked it
Here it is wit a black fill.
http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/Albinoethiopian07/Graffiti/1218102217-1.jpg

[Rehz]

MoganOne- With the white fill, it looked pretty sick. And the black fill makes it all the sicker :)

[M3KA1!]

i dont really like the black fill as much. dont get me wrong it looks dope, its just a personal preference. i actually like black fills a lot just not feelin it on this one for whatever reason. good work tho broseph

[Example1]

MoganOne- With the white fill, it looked pretty sick. And the black fill makes it all the sicker :)

I agree with you there. im seriously diggin the black fill

[MoganOne]

It would look better if the page was black also instead of white for sure....

[TastyMcNasty]

It would look better if the page was black also instead of white for sure....
ya word... dude those highlights make that shit pop... dope as hell

[AcesFirst]

Slop i like the style. if anything just a tad to thin.
Mogan love the piece and the black fill makes it.

[anarone]

That black fill just made that doper dude... really really feeling that there!

[YeSnOmAyBe]

art crime shits lookin dopetaskic. we should do a exchange.. ive been righting sence 02' too but i took 2 years or so for school but i just started up agian like 3 monthes ago my can control is doo doo right now so my drawings are deff to advanced for my can skills

[Female]

15016Once again at school. Some random shit i put into the letters. Tell me which should go into(used Photoshop)

[FlippingChickens]

that looks identical to the other letters you posted..remember the little add on's you add to the letters dont really make it look dope its just random shit,if the letters are wack its gonna be wack..maybe you should do keyboard letters for now instead of throwups

[anarone]

I agree with flipping chickens it takes a while do develop bubble style/throw up letters and i found it quicker to do once i understood simple keyboard letters and bar structure... Just copy letters from the keyboard keeping bars the same width and letters the same height to begin with... I'll draw you a quick example after i have done my homework.

[ART_CRIME]

Outline is sloppy as fuck (haha), but any crits?
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One of the guys from "the beastie boys" used to write slop.

[ART_CRIME]

art crime shits lookin dopetaskic. we should do a exchange.. ive been righting sence 02' too but i took 2 years or so for school but i just started up agian like 3 monthes ago my can control is doo doo right now so my drawings are deff to advanced for my can skills

i'll send old sketches. i barley have time for graff now.

[anarone]

Bore - Start from this... (I know its like done in 5 seconds but its for the idea)
http://i53.tinypic.com/4h5zsz.jpg

My 2 sketches from the past 4 months... Crits please?
http://i54.tinypic.com/309h5wo.jpg
http://i56.tinypic.com/e0pcur.jpg

[Example1]

Well i know im gunna get hazed for this but i wanted to try to do a full page piece. First try on one of these so here goes. Crits welcome

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z92/mystery504life/fullpage.png

[anarone]

The fact that your going for a full pager isn't the bad thing about it. Its the letters that is your problem i like the colours on the page and the top left is pretty fresh but you need to do keyboard letters and understand structure for now before you try and add style in because thats just not working. Copy the letters off the keyboards same height and same width until you understand how they are formed.

[Example1]

The fact that your going for a full pager isn't the bad thing about it. Its the letters that is your problem i like the colours on the page and the top left is pretty fresh but you need to do keyboard letters and understand structure for now before you try and add style in because thats just not working. Copy the letters off the keyboards same height and same width until you understand how they are formed.

I agree with you that the style is shit. my other styles come out much better then this. But as for copying letters, i have a perfect understanding how the letters are formed. It just seems everytime i post a little tweak on a letter people say its shit because it doesnt look like a keyboard letter. I don't get it. isnt the point of a style to tweak letters so they have a little flare? its getting on my nerves actually.

[anarone]

Theres no consistency or structure in those letters though. Ok so you've went for a sort of spooky theme... do the letters as keyboard letters and do like spooky drips going off them or something like that ? Post some other stuff up i haven't been posting long so i cant really tell you what too do from other styles you have tried.

[Example1]

Theres no consistency or structure in those letters though. Ok so you've went for a sort of spooky theme... do the letters as keyboard letters and do like spooky drips going off them or something like that ? Post some other stuff up i haven't been posting long so i cant really tell you what too do from other styles you have tried.

The problem with keyboard letters is theres no visual eye candy for the letters. i could put as much added on designs as i want but if the letters are boring and simple then its still going to look boring and simple no matter how much extra stuff is on there.

heres a little throwie.

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[anarone]

A dope simple is so much better than a failed wildstyle. You see those are sort of bubblier letters... there is little structure to it. You need to understand keyboard structure so that you can develop your letters into something more developed and advanced and i don't think your in a position to be doing that... I'll draw you up a free exchange though, so keep looking and i'll have something for you.

[Diesel]

I agree with you that the style is shit. my other styles come out much better then this. But as for copying letters, i have a perfect understanding how the letters are formed. It just seems everytime i post a little tweak on a letter people say its shit because it doesnt look like a keyboard letter. I don't get it. isnt the point of a style to tweak letters so they have a little flare? its getting on my nerves actually.
i know what u mean bro

[anarone]

You guys are acting as if I'm trying to scrutinize what you guys are doing when I am only being honest and trying to tell you so that you know where too get better or improve... I'm sure people like Mogan can back me up with this.

[Example1]

No no! im not trying to scrutinize. not at all. im actually liking this conversation, its helping me to understand where your coming from.

[anarone]

Post me up a simple keyboard letter and I'll help you develop it or start too see where to develop it. I also think your names too long and some letters are tricky too pull off... find something significant or letters you like in a name. I tell you what for practice and saying i am helping you... Do me a ANAR. And i will give you an example on how i could develip the letters into something a slight bit more advanced than simple and i'll also give you in depth criticism on the piece.

[[breakout]-azer]

-azer;1688047']http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc465/bavi137/2010-12-1912-43-52657.jpg

crits?

Ok so didn't really get any crits so bumbing it up

[anarone]

Does that say BAVI ?

[Example1]

Well, if my names too long i sometimes do EXAM as just a shorter version. But ill post up a simple version or your name and you can help me understand what im doing wrong exactly.

[[breakout]-azer]

Yeah it says Bavi

[HugzNotThugz]

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Yo can I get a crit on this from two pages back, I'm trying to work on coloring

[anarone]

Well in that case... I would have spaced out the V from the A and the I from the V because if you look at the B it is definately further away and it seems to have a more visual appeal and i think if the V and I were like that it would flow better. I like the swirl on the V and its not too bad on the I but you should have done this on the A and B aswell for consistency. Once spaced out the V would have too be bigger and the I be smaller so it flows and is in straight flush with each other.

[Example1]

Post me up a simple keyboard letter and I'll help you develop it or start too see where to develop it. I also think your names too long and some letters are tricky too pull off... find something significant or letters you like in a name. I tell you what for practice and saying i am helping you... Do me a ANAR. And i will give you an example on how i could develip the letters into something a slight bit more advanced than simple and i'll also give you in depth criticism on the piece.

Alright here. its a simple version of ANAR. nothing to fancy but still got some oldschool flare.
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[Airplanefood]

Outline is sloppy as fuck (haha), but any crits?
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Bumping from last page

[anarone]

right... forgot about 'Old School Flare' and stuff like that... Look at the first A then look at the second A... the sizes of the two letters are completely different. the bar width on the letters changes aswell. As for the R - it should loop around and touch the black bone. Dont put these curves on the letters yet either just keep things straight... same height and same width... Ill post some ammendments to that.

[anarone]

http://i56.tinypic.com/wqyjuv.png

Okay Okay im shit as fuck on paint... the R now has a loop connected to the back bone. As i can't move the width of the letters you would then move the A to the left so theres more space between in and the N... then make the 2nd A wider and keep everything straight with the bars.

Basically every bar needs to be equal or near to equal width. Each letters the same height (FOR NOW) and also the same width... it keeps everything consistant and helps you understand.

http://i55.tinypic.com/11bnqcw.png
For all you people who want to hate on the curve of the R i couldnt use the curve too on paint !

Look at your sketch then look at those letters... any of your sketches against those letters. The clean, well structured simple always wins due to the fact that they haven't forced it into something that they don't have the skill to create. Thats why you get those mastered first then you start understanding about Bends in the bars and stuff which I'll show you tomorrow because it is late now :)

And

[AcesFirst]

Mesk i think the fill looks bomb. did good at fading the colors out/in. what you usin?

[FlippingChickens]

mesk that dont look too bad compared to other shit on this page but whats with those fuckin squiggle extensions

[SicK-]

I agree with you that the style is shit. my other styles come out much better then this. But as for copying letters, i have a perfect understanding how the letters are formed. It just seems everytime i post a little tweak on a letter people say its shit because it doesnt look like a keyboard letter. I don't get it. isnt the point of a style to tweak letters so they have a little flare? its getting on my nerves actually.
Example keep doing your thing these kids just say what gets crammed down there throats by these "graffiti experts" it seems you do have a decent understanding of letter structure and thats all you need.

[HugzForThugz]

It's prismas. Anyone know a good brand for white markers to do shines an stuff? Was thinkin just gonna get a deco fine point but theres gotta be better. I realize the extensions could be placed more creatively, but whatup with em

[W_G_O_N_E]

elmers whites ar enice and opaque man goes over anything , i also use posca's but aren't as good , and there is sakura gelly roll white pens they are super fine tip but look real nice

[swey]

As a toy fresh out of the box I'm trying to take in everything I can, and the main thing I see posted here with the crits is obviously keep it simple, and stick to keyboard and basic letters. Is there anywhere I can go to hit up exact bar structure for every letter in the alphabet? Mainly I'm thinking of C, S, R, P, etc where there are lots of curves. Primarily I mean S since it's in my tag obviously. I'm having a real hard time doing basic, good looking S's. Ws, Es, and even Ys are pretty simple to me and using bars to create them is working well... but that damn S.

[anarone]

Example keep doing your thing these kids just say what gets crammed down there throats by these "graffiti experts" it seems you do have a decent understanding of letter structure and thats all you need.

Look at the two pieces he posted previously and he doesn't. Im passing on what i learnt to get as far as ive reached... im not trying to put him off what he's doing because i did what he did for so long and got no where.

[MakeHate]

Not in my blackbooks just did in 3 min in a random notebook...real crits plz