Blackbooks

[bomber boy]

havent posted in a while so here are two ive done recently also changed my tag to sike

ye on the first one th k is pritty shit with a shit connector kind of rushed the k and e

[FlatScank]

after edit

3d always helps.

[bomber boy]

i did do 3d

[bomber boy]

gatsoi get rid of the eye in the e and get rid of the negative space in the e

[leash]

bomber boy go basic also use proper bars

[FlatScank]

i did do 3d

wasn't directed towards you, was directed towards Tempo.

[thatswhatshesaid]

any crits if you feel like it. just got into simps couple days ago

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/gangstaville/Picture054-2.jpg

my g is kinda fucky

[thatswhatshesaid]

also theres already a SIKE on here that slays. if you care


edit: anyone wanna exchange anything? no one ever checks the exchange thread

[leash]

i want but i want a propper 1 what do u write a piece or just a quiky or tag?

[FlatScank]

I'm down as well.

[FlatScank]

Crits are always welcome.

[Gatsoi]

Sike use bars

[NosE2]

get rid of all the fuckin arrows

[Tempo718]

a lil sum

[thatswhatshesaid]

make your m p and o look like your t and e. then do that 300 times. also make your bars on your t and e straight. and rack some pencils

[Tempo718]

k

[FlatScank]

get rid of all the fuckin arrows

here ya go, plain as fuck though....

[chiefy]

@Gatsoi
looks nice but fill the e's hole in solid black the letter are nice and clean though
@bomber boy
take away all the arrows and other S*** and make the letters more simple
@thatswhatshesaid
have less gaps inbetween the letters and get rid of the background behind it
@FlatScank
the first was isnt that good too many arrows but the second one is way nicer letters are straight and look nice but the L looks too bent at the botom imo

[SicK-]

here ya go, plain as fuck though....

Yo this is like 100x better

[Rehz]

That looks much better, Flat! Haha I mean, the arrows, I guess that's just your style, but it looks way too complicated. This one looks real good. Maybe take out the little extension in the T, and if that is a tag to the left of it, work on that.

[FlatScank]

That looks much better, Flat! Haha I mean, the arrows, I guess that's just your style, but it looks way too complicated. This one looks real good. Maybe take out the little extension in the T, and if that is a tag to the left of it, work on that.

When I use arrows, it's more for piecing on legal walls and such, but if I'm out doing just quicky burners, I just do the plain shit cause it takes up the least ammount of time, but I definately hear what your sayin'

[NosE2]

dont call me a hater when youre the one tryin to be like saber or some shit\


and like everyone else said...that looks a hell of a lot better

[thatswhatshesaid]

just banged this one out super quick not the best

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/gangstaville/Picture055-1.jpg

the a is kinda balls

[chiefy]

http://i.imgur.com/GaTz8.jpg
i fucked up on the N

@thatswhatshesaid
the g looks nice but the rest doesnt seem to match it all that well too straight

[Tempo718]

practicing...

[thatswhatshesaid]

much better, but try doing simple keyboard letters as well

[Tempo718]

i ono i thot that wat i wa doin

[weedeater]

^^reading that made my head hurt, and those arent keyboard letters, they are simple, but your T is straight hurting, the whole thing would look better if you had a round O instead of making it square and fix the T. Also, the top part of your E is dominating the bottom bar, makes it look off. and the middle bar looks like it should be a little longer. actually, just shorten the top and bottom bars on your E.

[Tempo718]

k

[Rehz]

Well Weedeater, Nose just told him that the square O would look better, so Tempo's probably a little confused now. And Tempo, when someone gives you their crits (assuming they're not being a dick about it), try to thank them or agree or say SOMETHING. When you write "k" it just kinda, ya know, uhmm, yeah. And about the O. With that one that weedeater's talking about, I think the square O goes well, because you've got a square kind of P. And just boxyy looking letters in general, but if you were to make everything more curvy and circular, obviously the sphere kind of O would be better.

[Tempo718]

ya rehz, i feel ya.

[Dcicfhbimv]

Fooling around.
Chiefy- I like it . the "N" isn't too bad I'm sure It would look tight as hell when you get how you like though.

[Tempo718]

nice

[Worm*]

http://i53.tinypic.com/m8fqsz.jpg

I'm not really happy with the R. What do you guys think?

[Tempo718]

its very wormy:p

[Tempo718]

filled in the res

[Worm*]

Tempo I'm no expert but try getting down a tag you like first, then look at the tag and work that into a throwup. You gotta start small and work up.

[Tempo718]

u mean sum like this? well cleaner than this.. or no

[ChadWarden]

are you a woman? your shit has a feminine/homosexual feel to it.

[Tempo718]

yea i got some big giant knockers with a dripping wet punani :p

[Dcicfhbimv]

Finished it.
Worm I like all of it except the "R" and th dot of the "i" otherwise it came out looking pretty chill.

[ChadWarden]

awesome





pm me pictures of forementioned big giant knockers and dripping wet punani and i will, in return, send you pictures of my phallus.

[Tempo718]

gotta pass thanks

[ChadWarden]

shit, bitch, why you backing out???

i can send cock pics first if you're shy or some shit.

[Tempo718]

sad:cool:

[KRE1]

cmon ho les see them tits that way ill know you aint takiin it the wrong way wen i say ur a fat fuggin pussy

and crack baby dcic are you on riddlin? the fuck ur shit look like you gonna die of a sugar overdose and your letters look like sperm.

[Tempo718]

ya ok boss .

[KRE1]

Tha boss doggie dog broooooo

[Phat 2]

wait there's a girl in here ? :o

[Tempo718]

yea an her name is sarcasm.

[Dcicfhbimv]

Is that a crit a compliment or what? I really can't follow. And cmon leave Tempo alone.


cmon ho les see them tits that way ill know you aint takiin it the wrong way wen i say ur a fat fuggin pussy

and crack baby dcic are you on riddlin? the fuck ur shit look like you gonna die of a sugar overdose and your letters look like sperm.

[FlatScank]

Tempo, you should try fattening up your letters, and also bringing them closer together.

[bomber boy]

@Gatsoi
looks nice but fill the e's hole in solid black the letter are nice and clean though
@bomber boy
take away all the arrows and other S*** and make the letters more simple
@thatswhatshesaid
have less gaps inbetween the letters and get rid of the background behind it
@FlatScank
the first was isnt that good too many arrows but the second one is way nicer letters are straight and look nice but the L looks too bent at the botom imo

thanks for the crits chiefy probs just gunna take it back to the start and look at my letter strucutre cus my k's are so bad

[bomber boy]

wasn't directed towards you, was directed towards Tempo.

o right my mistake

[FlatScank]

Crits, I know people said less arrows, but this is for a legal wall.

[ChadWarden]

so, since you're painting it where people and other writers can see it, you decided to ignore everyone's advice and use arrows and retarded extensions?

ditch all that stupid shit and just use your keyboard letters. if you really can't stand doing just straight letters then slant them or get a little creative, but ,seriously, stop what you're doing.

[thatswhatshesaid]

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/gangstaville/Picture058-1.jpg

bored

[ViniVidiVici]

No, that is a picture I believe there are other forums for that, we try to stick to graffiti on this forum....

[Rehz]

That wasn't very nice, ViniVidiVici.
Gnar, that's kind of a weird style that I cant really crit. But I can say that the R needs work if you were going to stay with that kind of style. And your N looks like a capital A. Fix that.
And Flat, I think it looks nice. And even though you kept the arrows, there didn't seem to be near as many as on the other sketches, sooooo good job!

[FlatScank]

thanks man!
@ Gnar, I like your G, you should work on that, and also your other letters, possible consider doing upper-cased letters?

heres a sketch I did today, no arrows, Crits are always welcome.

[Tempo718]

i see the p, o are too small. but is this closer to keyboard letters?

@ flat , that look different from ur others..

[weedeater]

Well Weedeater, Nose just told him that the square O would look better, so Tempo's probably a little confused now. And Tempo, when someone gives you their crits (assuming they're not being a dick about it), try to thank them or agree or say SOMETHING. When you write "k" it just kinda, ya know, uhmm, yeah. And about the O. With that one that weedeater's talking about, I think the square O goes well, because you've got a square kind of P. And just boxyy looking letters in general, but if you were to make everything more curvy and circular, obviously the sphere kind of O would be better.

word, my bad, i was away for a few days, and didnt read the last few pages. and remember tempo, its just my opinion, the only reason i gave it is to give you an idea to go off of and coem up with something better. not saying thats the way it HAS to be done.

[thepekins]

tempo- make your letters a lot closer
Flat- your handie blows miniature - wooden- nutcracker dick. work on that shit. that L is wack and your 3-d is sloppy

[Tempo718]

here is my attempt at less space between wider letters.

[thatswhatshesaid]

your on a computer right? look at your keyboard and do those before you try bending and what not. straights then simps then piecing

[ViniVidiVici]

This is like the blind leading the blind in here.....

[jrone]

JR

[FuckTheFame]

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5013/5474645911_099614b1d6.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55010972@N05/5474645911/)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5213/5475242246_cfc81f531c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55010972@N05/5475242246/)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5059/5474644363_ddc5143953.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55010972@N05/5474644363/)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5254/5474643979_40dda84b65.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55010972@N05/5474643979/)

gnar - killing it

flat - throw some color out there

tempo - work on your letters more man

[ian]

^only good shit on this page, i really like the first 2

this is what i did for the newest piece battle, lookin for crits. looks better in person TBH

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/1007/photoon20110224at1754.jpg

[Tempo718]

revised my previous attempt.

btw: nice work @ risk & youth with your colors

[ian]

^fuckouttahere with that, KEYBOARD LETTERS:


TEMPO

[thatswhatshesaid]

^^^
for the 40th time

[EWL24]

i thought that one was simple, any ways i did this in class to day is it any better? its not keyboard letters though cause i did this earlier today and i just now read what you wrote
19094

can i get some crits on this

[EWL24]

you have to click the attachment to see it.
for some reason the pic didnt come with it

[Tempo718]

@ EWL , i think were in the same boat dude. got to try an perfect keyboard letters before anything.

[Tempo718]

mad old crusty dried up sharpie! lol

[ian]

bottom page bump

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/1007/photoon20110224at1754.jpg

[Tempo718]

workin tha sharpie til she got no mo!

[ChadWarden]

the shit you were doing last night was better.

[thatswhatshesaid]

ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ


keyboard letters incase you have some fucked up keyboard where the letters all look like a bag of mashed up assholes.

[ViniVidiVici]

Dude this *****h is obviously trolling....

Youth you are the only one who has actually posted something that is good.

[Tempo718]

okay guys, from here on I promise. only key board letters.

[ian]

Dude this *****h is obviously trolling....

Youth you are the only one who has actually posted something that is good.

crits on mine then?

[Sbal]

sick character bro

[weedeater]

his ass looks like pac man

[Worm*]

http://i51.tinypic.com/2552xyt.jpg

Keepin' it simple, no 3D or outline. I need to make the top of the R a bit bigger to fill that gap. What do y'all think?

[ian]

^shaky ass mother fuckin lines is what i think. you spent more time on that gay little star than the letters. P.S. someone on this forum already writes WERM, idk how well thats gonna go over. keyboard letters, why is that such a hard concept for everyone on here

[Jigsaw]

says soen not finished ran outta colors! critts
http://i56.tinypic.com/2d2bxpy.jpg

[ViniVidiVici]

Ian - Watch your bars they are off somewhere in all of your letters, but the overall idea is pretty good, just watch them bars, also drop your shadow/fills/highlights until you get some good letters, no sense in coloring something if the letters aren't good...
Worm - Change yo name, there is a mad made worm already, and just in case you are wondering WERM is taking also, but for crits I would say go WAAAAAYYYYY simpler, Keyboard letters and bars, it sucks to have to start so low on the food chain of graffiti skill but you must start somewhere and the basics are of the utmost importance.

[ViniVidiVici]

Jigsaw - Can't really make it out cuz the pic is small, it looks clean though so that's good, can't really give anymore crits til I see a better pic

[Jigsaw]

sry bout the handie trying new things but this is my original style
http://i53.tinypic.com/28ciwcw.jpg

[Tempo718]

Ian - Watch your bars they are off somewhere in all of your letters, but the overall idea is pretty good, just watch them bars, also drop your shadow/fills/highlights until you get some good letters, no sense in coloring something if the letters aren't good...
Worm - Change yo name, there is a mad made worm already, and just in case you are wondering WERM is taking also, but for crits I would say go WAAAAAYYYYY simpler, Keyboard letters and bars, it sucks to have to start so low on the food chain of graffiti skill but you must start somewhere and the basics are of the utmost importance.

I second the part with sucks to have to start so low on the food chain :p

[Jigsaw]

yeah but everyone has to start somwhere and trust me u learn way faster starting off by doin keyboard letters

[Worm*]

Ian- That gay little star is part of my name so suck my dick.

And I know about worm which is why my name is worm*, bitches.

[ian]

Ian- That gay little star is part of my name so suck my dick.

And I know about worm which is why my name is worm*, bitches.

hahahahahahaha


yo dawg i think imma change my name to cope*, actually no revok* is better, wait no i dont think banksy* exists, or maybe daim*, hmmmm.....

fuckin stupid people make me laugh

[Tempo718]

Bam! forgot it was past midnight on this one.

[SHUT]

crits?

[Jigsaw]

not really feeling the p and o kinda throws it off a bit cause u have to space in the e and m if u get what in saying

[Tempo718]

all I can say is my post are toy status, compare, contrast, re evaluate forum topic selection.

[Tempo718]

@ jigsaw , yes not my best work i have to agree

[Jigsaw]

@shut looks crazy but what does it say?

[Tempo718]

cast?

[chiefy]

jrone- try to keep the letters more straight
FuckTheFame- they all looking pretty dope apart fro 1 or 2 letters that need work like the top ones h but they are nice kiu
Tempo718- all the letters shouldnt be slanted like the P and E, the stuff you were doing yesterday and day before that was better

[Isaac]

19184[ATTACH=CONFIG]19185
I know its shitty, but thats why its on the toy thread, i'd appreciate any input.thanks

[ian]

this thread is really disappointing me lately...

[SHUT]

cast?

Gast

[Jigsaw]

@ian not trying to start shit but how is this thread disappointing you when ur one of the ones thats in here and needs help with ur shit if anything u should be happy they have this thread so people can help ur ass out!
@issac go simpler dude till u get some lettter structure
@gast cant giv ya any critts yet till i see some more stuff that i can break down for ya

[FuckTheFame]

http://i53.tinypic.com/28ciwcw.jpg[/QUOTE]

bump because this is legit


isaac - try to get rid of those extra lines. they arent necessary

shut- done really well but there is a lot going on. try adding a fill to help the piece fit together

tempo - that M is dope. tweak it man

[ian]

@ian not trying to start shit but how is this thread disappointing you when ur one of the ones thats in here and needs help with ur shit if anything u should be happy they have this thread so people can help ur ass out!
@issac go simpler dude till u get some lettter structure
@gast cant giv ya any critts yet till i see some more stuff that i can break down for ya



the last few pages are just flooded with new people who dont know what keyboard letters are, theres like 1 or 2 halfway decent things in the last few pages

[ViniVidiVici]

^ what he said.... I think we need a new UBER-toy thread.....

[ian]

thats what im sayin, we got the toys thread and intermediate, we need like a baby toy thread

[Jigsaw]

yeah i know and i couldnt agree more but most people who first start out are hard headed and dont wanna go to keyboard letters
i know that this is what this thread is about but some of us are way past keyboard letters its time to move on but yeah most
people in this thread need to stick with keyboard letters for awile

[FuckTheFame]

suggest a i just started and am learning how to do graffiti through bombing science thread
...but then again i suggested a RIP YNOT thread a little bit ago and that hasnt even gone through
who knows whats happening out there

[ian]

^just submitted it, hopefully itll go through

[FuckTheFame]

noice

[TastyMcNasty]

yo thanks for all the crits.. haha and youth, i have plenty of markers i just wanted to get to get structure down first...

female- your getting better keep using those bars
youth- shits doopeee
tempo- keep that up, shits on spot
shut- simple it up

[TastyMcNasty]

im thinkin most people here need to go a bit more simple

and can i have some fucking crits?!

[Female]

Its crap but i was doodling on a water bottle
http://i56.tinypic.com/8xsm6a.jpg
Letters are ugly as hell but at least i tried. Any suggestions?
http://i53.tinypic.com/11rr5m9.jpg

[Dcicfhbimv]

Kinda old just messing around.crits appreciated as always.


Gast really liking that 4th one
Tempo it looks like you've just reposted the same 3 or so pictures like 12 times. Are they any different? Not trying to rag on you it just seems I see them every time I log on.

[Dcicfhbimv]

Just messing around kinda old. Crits appreciated as always.


Gast really liking the 4th one
Tempo it seems like you've been posting the same 3 or so pictures over and over again. not trying to rag on you or anything its just all I see when I log on

[Dcicfhbimv]

Just messing around kinda old. Crits appreciated as always.


Gast really liking the 4th one
Tempo it seems like you've been posting the same 3 or so pictures over and over again. not trying to rag on you or anything its just all I see when I log on

[ViniVidiVici]

^just submitted it, hopefully itll go through

Best thing I've seen today hahaha
hope it makes it....

[ViniVidiVici]

Tasty - The way you leave your bars intact without erasing them gives me a headache on some of them, the bars are fine but I just wonder if erasing a little would help.

Sore - I like the throw, the R is messed up but all in all I think it is alright. On your piece I don't like how you overlapped the letters, it just doesn't look natural or normal. space the letters out more.

[FuckTheFame]

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5137/5477763240_266496a48e.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55010972@N05/5477763240/)

sore - keep at it. your doing everything right. you might want to take a look at tastymcnasty if you want to start developing your bars.

tasty mc nasty - whats up with some colors? rack up some sharpies if you need to. shits clean

[ChadWarden]

keyboard letters, bro.

[Female]

Just started this one
http://i54.tinypic.com/14wcbrp.jpg
thinking of a pink fill. Blue force

[ChadWarden]

try keyboard letters. i can't even read that.

[FuckTheFame]

female - looks like it says sone. add some more style to it. that bomb is simple. make a new one if you are trying to be serious

[Female]

Alright ima finish it and do another one with your advice

[Dcicfhbimv]

Sure you fucking can get some crits. What does it say anyway? Soar? and the 2nd to last one I can't quite follow SHHDE? The S's are alright Can't say Im digging the whole bowling ball cube thing that is the "O" the extension on the "A" messes with me but the one on the "R" is alright all in all its pretty good just not digging the overall flow. Try fading your 3d into nothing " erase the back of it so it fades into the background. Just came to me it most likely will look good on your piece.


im thinkin most people here need to go a bit more simple

and can i have some fucking crits?!

[Female]

@FuckTheFame Do you want me to style all the letters?

[Gatsoi]

Tasty- Doesn't flow, try sharpening up some of your bars
Sore- Same letters everytime, I've seen no progression
Youth- Diggin the 3d

[FuckTheFame]

@female - have some flair. but remember that less is more when your still new

[Tempo718]

cant wait to get this keyboard letter thing on point. I'll keep trying an one of these days:rolleyes: it will get there.

[SicK-]

^ the only reason people are telling you to do keyboard letters is so you can get down letter structure, its not bad to experiment its actually good.
My crits are to bring your letters closer and add a 3D or something

[Tempo718]

ok sick i tried.

[Isaac]

19250 i tried to make it simpler and have the letters more clearly look like the intended letters.input?

[SHUT]

1:Gast
2:Gast
3:Gast
4:Gast
5:Late, Gast, Zerg, Break
6:Shut
7:old man

[Gatsoi]

This whole page sucks.

http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac9/gatsoi/2-3.jpg
http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac9/gatsoi/3-2.jpg
A piece i did on my homie werm's desk
http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac9/gatsoi/4-3.jpg

[chiefy]

Isaac - should try doing straigher letters
SHUT - there nice but i'd keep them simpler imo
Gatsoi - id say they all look really nice and clean apart from the one with an eye in the e which i aint feeling

[Jigsaw]

@gats nice simps
@shut go simpler for awhile but u have got alot of potential
@issac yeah man back to the keyboard for you
and heres mine guys i was ina hurry so somthings are off but itll do prob. gonna go paint this soon so ill have the flick for yall!
http://i51.tinypic.com/30kq8o3.jpg

[FuckTheFame]

gast is a beast...just gonna say it
jigsaw - nicely done on filling that in. lets see more man. a piece without chars would be refreshing

[Female]

Tasty - The way you leave your bars intact without erasing them gives me a headache on some of them, the bars are fine but I just wonder if erasing a little would help.

Sore - I like the throw, the R is messed up but all in all I think it is alright. On your piece I don't like how you overlapped the letters, it just doesn't look natural or normal. space the letters out more.
http://i52.tinypic.com/a08nc1.jpg
Im gonna redo that one, cause i couldnt fit the E and where should the leg of the R come out.

[ribcage]

@jigsaw first 2 letters are steezy, not diggin the last two, on the E i dont like that tongue thingy you put on it, and it looks like u through that N on there without takin the time to make 1 match... looks like a throw N to me. also not a fan of the shadow color change

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g388/ribcage22/0221111715.jpg
^i managed to fuck simple ass 3d up

[chiefy]

http://i.imgur.com/mZ3vK.jpg
ignore top one
ribcage- you should keep it allone color it would look nicer

[ViniVidiVici]

That S is in so much pain I hurt for him....

[ViniVidiVici]

I'm just gonna say everyone on this page besides MEWN and REACH use bars and don't post your pics if your not gonna even attempt to make your bars good.

[thepekins]

gast is a beast...just gonna say it


please tell me that was sarcasm. . . please.


@vinividivici - you said it man, this page got no bars

[Tempo718]

wish y'all was wrong bout that. lol

[Tempo718]

then again fortunately your not.

[ribcage]

^did that really take 2 posts to say? I realize that this post is just as pointless, but fuck, 2 posts for something that is not constructive to the thread at all in a row 1 minute after eachother?! damn *****

[Gatsoi]

Can I get some crits?

[Tempo718]

lol my bad! didn't know it would get your panties

[Tempo718]

in a bunch!

[Tempo718]

having trouble getting a consistent width

[ViniVidiVici]

Okay Tempo, when you do your bars don't just try to draw two straight lines and connect them, sketch the bars and then end it however you want.

[ViniVidiVici]

Gatsoi - The First one I like but the E W overlap is sloppy looking I think don't do it. The second one don't do eyes and E looks a little strange and breaks the flow, fix that and it'll look nice. The third one the bars are a little shaky in areas on the M, some other bars are a little questionable.... The fourth and fifth are dope, and I really like the green/white/black one, but get rid of the eyes, I think it would make it look better.

[Jigsaw]

wat about this s critts
http://i55.tinypic.com/v5e2gz.jpg

[Dcicfhbimv]

Messing around while waiting for some food at a hibachi joint. Crits?
Tempo- try using a pencil it allows you to erase. I know its obvious but still it helps you adjust your work without making another piece altogether. and also no offense but I'm sick of seeing the same thing posted over and over again. Oh and pencil can help you out with shading. Try cross hatching by the way the technique works wonders.
Jigsaw- does it say TS? i kinda like it I'd lose the bits though the look forced. And the initial wave line on the end of the "T" goes in a different direction than the "S" so it feels like it obstructs the flow of the piece. But thats just me hope it helped.

[Jigsaw]

go more simpler u have potential just need work on letter structer

[leash]

just simple keyboard letters but ur coloring good

[Dcicfhbimv]

thanks. I'll work on my lettering but to be honest I despise keyboard letters at this point. Is there any other way to improve my letters without making my piece ridicuously basic. I know it sounds weak but I've tried keyboard letters alot and they really haven't helped me out too much just kinda got me uber irritated.

[arsebanditskaelsucker]

^^It looks good to me,maybe a bit squished up but its got character with the chefs hat and the knives, fuck keyboard letters draw what the fuck you want to......u do it for yourself right?, not to please other people?

[leash]

but use the keyboard letters for basic and start to change them with bars then it will not look basic

[thepekins]

EVERYONE ON THE LAST THREE PAGES SHOULD GO LOOK AT THE FIRST FUCKING PAGE OF THE NEW TO GRAFFITI THREAD AND READ THE WHOLE FUCKING THING. GO FUCKING LOOK AT IT AND DO SOME SIMPLES! THATS WHY THAT SHITS IMPORTANT.

No one no here understands the reason for doing straight letter simples. You do some boring keyboard letters, then erase some shit, add on some shit, and try to bend the letters and shit so they got some style. Its pointless to draw keyboard letters and leave it at that. You gotta advance them.
This is advice that all the power toys on this thread need to hear. All yall *****s come on here with your no structure garbo pieces, ask for crits, get told to do simples and then go and do the same wack ass shit cus they think simples are pointless.
shit you guys. Most people on this thread right now are trying to do complicated shit and cant even scribble a decent handie....

excluding tasty, youth, and mewn.

sorry for that long ass rant but damn. yall know its true

[ViniVidiVici]

If he does it for himself and doesn't care about improving then he should not be using this site....

[leash]

you just do simples to learn how the letters are formed after some time you know what the letters structures are then you can go change letters

[arsebanditskaelsucker]

sorry for that long ass rant but damn. yall know its true

yup pekins its very true i even use bars and when back to block letters just like everyone does or needs to i suppose to realise were their going wrong....i just like to see people trying something different and trying to develop new shit it keeps it more interesting.... didn't mean to cause a riot my bad lol

[H1P30N3R]

crits please ... rough draft
http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb409/heyzues07/IMAG0013.jpg

[SicK-]

Hipe dont do do connections between your letters, Take the connection off of the S and E and move the S closer

[ribcage]

lol my bad! didn't know it would get your panties in a bunch

its annoying, you are annoying. peace

[ViniVidiVici]

the bars on the P are hurting, and the E isn't doing much better....

[ian]

EVERYONE ON THE LAST THREE PAGES SHOULD GO LOOK AT THE FIRST FUCKING PAGE OF THE NEW TO GRAFFITI THREAD AND READ THE WHOLE FUCKING THING. GO FUCKING LOOK AT IT AND DO SOME SIMPLES! THATS WHY THAT SHITS IMPORTANT.

No one no here understands the reason for doing straight letter simples. You do some boring keyboard letters, then erase some shit, add on some shit, and try to bend the letters and shit so they got some style. Its pointless to draw keyboard letters and leave it at that. You gotta advance them.
This is advice that all the power toys on this thread need to hear. All yall *****s come on here with your no structure garbo pieces, ask for crits, get told to do simples and then go and do the same wack ass shit cus they think simples are pointless.
shit you guys. Most people on this thread right now are trying to do complicated shit and cant even scribble a decent handie....

excluding tasty, youth, and mewn.

sorry for that long ass rant but damn. yall know its true


i love you for this. the past 10 pages have had maybe 5 decent posts. i hope bombingscience puts my thread through cuz this is gettin a little annoying. that being said, heres a quick straight i did, i know the bars are a little sloppy but i whipped this out in like 5 mins tops, would appreciate some crits

http://i.imgur.com/oRjxv.jpg

[_Aristrocracy_]

Uhhhhhmmmm...... Name Change! ;D

[ribcage]

@ian no one cares how long it took you lol, dont make excuses for sloppiness . On a lighter note i think you should move on from doin the same simps and take your time on something... The E on your tag is dope tho, make the rest of your tag the same style

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g388/ribcage22/0227111353.jpg
^might look better wit some color and 3d...crits?

[Female]

http://i53.tinypic.com/9iaf4w.jpg
I dont like the extension from the A to the C looks weird to me but overall I like how it looks.
and i might fix up the O more

[ian]

@ian no one cares how long it took you lol, dont make excuses for sloppiness . On a lighter note i think you should move on from doin the same simps and take your time on something... The E on your tag is dope tho, make the rest of your tag the same style

^might look better wit some color and 3d...crits?


word dude, appreciate the comments, the tag was quick too so its not one of my best but thanks. TBH i like your style its hella clean and your bars are just about perfect. that particular piece, i think the roundness of the R and the right side of that H and the top of the A kinda contrasts with the harder edges in the rest of the piece, and im not a huge fan of the way you did the right side of the R, i think that the top loop and the bottom leg should overlap, and maybe even keep em connected to the left bar. the way you have it now kinda looks like you were trying to bring the loop behind the left bar with that extension and i dont think you were going for that (its off if you were). I dont really like that extension on the left of the R anyway, and i think it looks kinda strange how you start the top loop of the R because it kinda looks like its meant to be the same bar as the left bar but at the same time theyre not really lined up. I would also lose the AC connection, its kinda funky, and the way you connected the middle of the H to the top is also kinda funky but overall, nice clean mostly consistent style, color it up

[Gatsoi]

Sore don't use four bars for an O, just draw an oval. bring your letters closer together and try a drop shadow

[ribcage]

@ian O yup the R is fucked, outlining mistakes were made. But all the extensions were just to kill the negative space ya digg? If i woulda used the whole page they most likely would have looked better and made more sense.

[ian]

@ribcage yeah i got you, most dont look bad i just dont like the R and H ones on the outside, no real need to kill negative space on the edges of the piece yakno?

[ViniVidiVici]

Ribcage - I like it, but I do think the AC connection is bad, and it really doesn't need it, give it a shadow/3d and some color.
Anek - I really like that just white and black one, I think it is the third one you posted, stick to pieces like those...
SORE - So people are now telling you to move your letters closer =/ Well I would say leave it how it is, fix the O (always just sketch a oval and put a hole in it) I think it will look fine with your letters how they are if you give it some 3d and make the 3d on the left side so it uses up any negative space caused by you spreading out the letters, but hey this is just one person's opinion.

Will have some new shit posted sometime soon hopefully, I changed my name so we'll see how it goes,
Classes are wrecking me and my sleep lately so I have no clue when I'll have pics up.

[ribcage]

yee, i guess i like taking all the space

[FuckTheFame]

@soar- dont try so hard. you could prolly do that without all those lines. try working off the bottom of the page. it helps build structure. lol and take what these kids say about straights with a grain of salt. most get mad because they cant do them correctly themselves and dont want to see others advance past them. haha not be a dick but you guys on bombing science are easy to analyse.
oh yah and soar...3D!!!!

[Angel'Ik]

Crits welcome of course. I know it's not that good, I'm sort of stuck in throw up mode, I went for wildstyle at first then it just wasn't going anywhere good so it ended be a mostly simple piece, and flat panel at that. I don't feel my 3d is up to par yet, I will try it out on my next piece though.

[NosE2]

try straight letters it just looks like a big throwie

[ian]

took my time on this one lol

http://i.imgur.com/SkjIF.jpg

[ViniVidiVici]

Noise - The N bars are off and the connections hurt the piece, I think it would look better if you rounded the edges of your letters instead of going for sharp jagged points.
Angel - lose those curly extensions they look bad... and it does kinda look like a throw but it looks like you have potential.

@FucktheFame - Are you really encouraging people to say fuck it to simps and bars and just 'get' better?!

[ViniVidiVici]

Okay these were real quick simps, the first one is aweful, just changed my name so I'm still fucking around with the letters and seeing what works....

Crits would be nice

[Female]

@ViniVidiVici like this How would i do the 3D on the S and O
http://i53.tinypic.com/34y1udt.jpg

[ian]

Noise - The N bars are off and the connections hurt the piece, I think it would look better if you rounded the edges of your letters instead of going for sharp jagged points.
Angel - lose those curly extensions they look bad... and it does kinda look like a throw but it looks like you have potential.

@FucktheFame - Are you really encouraging people to say fuck it to simps and bars and just 'get' better?!

whats wrong with the N? i curved the left and center bars but i dont think they're off...the connections just kinda happened cuz i extended bars and they ended up on top of each other but ill work on that and ill try some rounded edges. your stuff looks pretty good, im not a huge fan of the 2nd H, and in the third one you should bring your letters closer and overlap them a little, i think they looks too spread out but overall you definately got the structures down and your bars are all on point

[Jigsaw]

just saw the messup on the s but helpful critts please!
says soen and the o is gonna be like a 2 towned egg with fine detail in it
http://i55.tinypic.com/2z52o3r.jpg

[ribcage]

picture mantage?
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g388/ribcage22/0226112110.jpg
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g388/ribcage22/0227111353.jpg
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g388/ribcage22/0227111953.jpg
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g388/ribcage22/0227112011.jpg
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g388/ribcage22/0227112032.jpg

[Jigsaw]

nice montage bro always good to have some diff in here

[KRE1]

your A to C connect is fuggin stupid.

[NosE2]

quit trollin *****. yo SORE actually do the 3d

[Tempo718]

ya but uh wat do your a to c connections look like?

[Gatsoi]

ViniVidiVici- make all the letters the same size and watch you're bar width consistancy

[alre]

My first sketch

http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/9514/cpaz.jpg

Comment pls.

[ribcage]

your A to C connect is fuggin stupid.

fasho breh, i was goin for a more retarded look, but stupid is good enough, good lookin

[ViniVidiVici]

Soar make the S and O 3d like this, take it to your point and then follow the curve of your letter, excuse the calc shit.

Jigsaw, I like it, pretty nice
Reach, not bad
CPA - Use bars

[alre]

bars? sry, i cant speak English very well.

[ViniVidiVici]

Bars are what good letters are made from, at least when you are a toy, if you or anyone else does not know what they are read this, I would suggest reading all of it, there is a plethora of information in here.

http://www.bombingscience.com/graffitiforum/showthread.php?2185-New-To-Graffiti-Start-Here!

[alre]

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/9950/cpa002.jpg

so?

[Jigsaw]

@ViniVidiVici thankx bro glad u like it
anyway figured id put this in here for some inspiration this is one of the sickest people in the graff world
POSE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9InLKbbJL-g

[Skope2]

CPA - I believe theres a graffiti starters thread on here somewhere. You'd probably be better off posting/reading there rather than here.

Crits would be appreciated for these two. The 'S' in SKOPE looks a bit shit.

[ViniVidiVici]

CPA - That looks better already, graff is a slow process, don't expect to banging out crazy pieces anytime soon, it takes years, but if you keep doing it the way we tell you will progress very fast, keep working on those simps and making good bars, once your consistent with that we'll show you some 3d/shadows and how to manipulate your letters to develop your own style, but it all takes time and effort, just remember that.

Skope - Yes the S is messed up but that is fixable, but the K and O are bad, redo them, can't even tell that they are letters, I like the P and E though, for the second piece I like it overall but the first letter I don't know what it is, I think it is an R but you should redo it and make the far left bar of the R a continuous bar if ya know what I mean, that way it is not as confusing.

[Female]

http://i53.tinypic.com/n4fdvp.jpg
Like this?

[NosE2]

You're almost there...you just gotta learn what parts to make the shadow go into the letter if that makes sense...like on your s you messed up some parts..i tried, just somethin i did in 10 seconds though so just take it as a visual. couple weeks or so and you should have it down
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2158/imgp0106t.jpg

[Female]

Yeah i gotta get used to doing 3D every direction and @above pic it looks like you did a different point perspective than me but that still helps.

[H1P30N3R]

my backwards 4 p is killin me lol crits anyway
http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb409/heyzues07/IMAG0019.jpg

[ViniVidiVici]

Yo try not to have all the negative space between the P and the E.... Your are okay but negative space like that isn't good.

[SeizeTheMoment]

picture mantage?
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g388/ribcage22/0226112110.jpg
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g388/ribcage22/0227111353.jpg
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g388/ribcage22/0227111953.jpg
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g388/ribcage22/0227112011.jpg
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g388/ribcage22/0227112032.jpg

diggin the a

[thepekins]

http://www.bombingscience.com/graffitiforum/showthread.php?2185-New-To-Graffiti-Start-Here!


everyone on this thread should look at this before they draw another thing

[thepekins]

REACH - good shit. top of the r would look better if it wasnt so circular

PESO- the P is too far from the other letters the O blows. Maybe make it look less like a zero on a digital clock and more like an O

CPA- not bad for a first sketch. You should work on a handie and build your pieces from that

Skope- cant even really read that first sketch if i didnt know from your name. I would scrap the first piece completely. The second one is on the right track. The bars arent awful. Cant tell what tthe first letter is looks like a Z to me?

SORE- cant really crit you since its so simple. Try bending the letters a little bit now and fix the 3D on the S

[Fube]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/fubar976/3-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/fubar976/2-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/fubar976/Document.jpg

[elesdee]

quick simple, flooded the damn sharpie paint maker a few times =/
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[Female]

@vok its vok right? connection to the V and K makes it look like a M

[ribcage]

@thepekins@vinividivici@seizethemoment fasho *****s

[Tempo718]

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[Tempo718]

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[Dcicfhbimv]

Getting better tempo
the 1st ones shadows is a bit off and I'm not a huge fan of the detail line things
the 2nd one I can't help but feel the "O" should be lower to continue the arch other than that they are looking much better then before.

[KRE1]

yeah thats all bad^^

shading is off
bars are uneven
your O is way too small
you got a gay name

[ViniVidiVici]

That's not a gay name.... But everything else he says is true, but this is better than what you had been posting, you can take that however you want.

[ian]

yeah thats all bad^^

shading is off
bars are uneven
your O is way too small
you got a gay name


dude quit being such a faggot troll

[whoknows]

First post on here, and if you ask yes I did use bars, you can even see me practicing with them in the upper left. Please ignore the silly fills / extension I got bored and just kept adding stuff, also the B should be bigger but this was my first time using bars. Undecided on a name as of now.

[Sbal]

u used bars? MORE LIKE BONERS BAHAHBHAHABHAHWAHAHAH GUH

[extinct]

bars are used for the actual piece not just practice.. in all actuality thats pretty weak...

[whoknows]

Sbal- You forgot to crit, nice try though
extinct- I expect it to be weak for sure I'm new to this haha, I just took the bars and shaped them to something that looked cooler than "BE3" and erased the overlapping lines

[extinct]

never expect it to be weak, make it better.... i'll do a piece for your name sometime this week

[Dcicfhbimv]

And cmon guys give tempo a break. you can lay the truth on a little less brutaly ya know?

Yeah Be3 I dont see how you used bars I see no uniform width really, the connections between letters are frivalous and ugly, and the flow is non existant and please don't get me started on the arrows.It's not hopeless though try working your way up from simplicity in your work you have an eraser you can take your time tinker with it. Start with just the letters get something that looks presentable then add connections overlaps 3-d shading color force fields and whatever the fuck you want. Just don't try it all at once it comes out looking well like that.

[FlatScank]

Crits please.

[ViniVidiVici]

Whoknows - You see those bars you drew above? Do you see those anywhere in your piece? Your first task is to try to show us that you can actually do a Keyboard letter piece....

All-nighter for a midterm at 8AM this morning, decided to take a 20 minute break and did these, please don't judge to badly, I am sleep deprived, and only awake via adderal, coffee, and the desire not to fail miserably, both these were basically freehanded except for doing 3d, and yes I know the 'highlights' are way whack... Just haven't had time to sit down for an hour and sketch lately.....

[FlatScank]

Crits always welcome.

[leash]

-lose arrows
-do not cut all the bars

[Sbal]

GiVe CrItS to get them

[Skope2]

Yea flat your lettering would look alot better if you lost most of those cuts. Nice work though.
Vini the 'S' and 'H' in the second piece need some serious work. Remember the bars!

Pulled this up a minuite ago. The 'O' looks like utter fuckery. Crits welcome.

[Tempo718]

GiVe CrItS to get them
I don't think certain members crits are as constructive as others.

[ViniVidiVici]

Skope - Yeah, those bars were actually good when I drew them but when I inked it I cut into them thus destroying said bars hahaha happens to me to often. anyways as for your piece personally I don't like the idea of the whole heart arrow, and especially not on 3 outta the 4 letters, the O is whack, I think you should maybe just try doing a simpler O, not so much simpler I guess more just normal looking, without all those 4 leaf clover bumps all over it. I really like your R, except for the heart arrow hahaha.

[Skope2]

Yea cheers pal. Was just messing around with something new there really. Appreciate the crits.

[ViniVidiVici]

FLAT - first, you can't expect anyone to crit your stuff when you don't give crits, however I'll crit it cuz I don't want to see stuff like that on this forum to be quite blunt. First thing first, stop everything you are doing, you NEED to go back to much much MUCH simpler stuff, you are not ready in any way shape or form for what you are trying to pull off, you've got whack arrows/extensions/letters the whole shitbang. Wanna know how I REAAAALLLLY REAAAAALLLLY know your not ready for that stuff..... Your handy..... for realz, if you can't even make your tag look good how the hell are you supposed to make pieces look good. You start at the bottom and build your way up, Handy>Throw>Piece I feel like half of the toys on this forum have no fucking clue about the history and progression of graff or anything, because if you did you would know that the tag comes first and the rest follows. You need to know the history, because once you know the history, doing simple straights won't seem so boring when you see how the old school bombers used to put up dope straights.....

[FlatScank]

FLAT - first, you can't expect anyone to crit your stuff when you don't give crits, however I'll crit it cuz I don't want to see stuff like that on this forum to be quite blunt. First thing first, stop everything you are doing, you NEED to go back to much much MUCH simpler stuff, you are not ready in any way shape or form for what you are trying to pull off, you've got whack arrows/extensions/letters the whole shitbang. Wanna know how I REAAAALLLLY REAAAAALLLLY know your not ready for that stuff..... Your handy..... for realz, if you can't even make your tag look good how the hell are you supposed to make pieces look good. You start at the bottom and build your way up, Handy>Throw>Piece I feel like half of the toys on this forum have no fucking clue about the history and progression of graff or anything, because if you did you would know that the tag comes first and the rest follows. You need to know the history, because once you know the history, doing simple straights won't seem so boring when you see how the old school bombers used to put up dope straights.....

if your going to crit other, based on how someones handy is, heres something you should watch, it applies to the handy's I've seen on your sketchs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me3DlEWwxWc

[KRE1]

this entire TOY THREAD is full of pussies

"aw hey guys dont give him such a hard time... yeah man! hes uber duber good bro! yea hes trying really hard!"

FUCK you faggets. EXPECT to get knocked. jesus what the fuck is wrong with you kids this AINT no fuckin game

bombingscience has turned into a breeding ground for pussy ass wannabee kids.

[Skope2]

Because theres nothing constructive about saying FUK NIGR U SHIT GO HOME BOY GO PUT DAT PEN DOWN AND STOP YO! Fact is people are going to write regardless of what you say, so you might aswell say something to help them to improve.
No need to get butthurt about it.

[FlatScank]

it's called an opinion, you don't have to offended by it, cause chances are you are not in the same city as said writers, and it's even more improbable that you'll meet these writers in person. though I will agree with Skope that when someone says "just stop writing, right now" that it's not encouraging for them to try harder, it's just encouraging them to stop, and if you are someone that likes graffiti for an art-sake, you would want more writers out bombing/piecing/getting their work up.

[Gatsoi]

Everybody in this thread sucks except vinividivici for giving good crits.
kre1 you're a bitch

http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac9/gatsoi/8-1.jpg

[Tempo718]

<---- "sucks"
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[Gatsoi]

^You don't have to post everything you do
do some sketches in pencil, no lame ass fill like that one
work on a drop shadow, get rid of negative space(Move your letters as close as possible to eachother without squishing them)

and then get back to us, k?

[KRE1]

tempreezy your O is still fucked up

graffiti is not art dummies so NO i dont want every dumb mutherfucker with a pen to scrawl his gay ass name on the walls it heats up spots attracts unwanted attention and makes shit look retarded

by the way toys giving toys crits is a retarded idea, because NONE of you will grow.

i hate kids.

[Skope2]

>implying this isnt a toy thread, inhabited by toys for the sole reason that it is a fucking toy thread

[Svc]

Gatsoi- not shure if it'd be any help but try making your bars the same width throught the M, W and N.
Tempo- work on fill if your going to attempt it, as said before, fill negative space better.
Kre1- since when is graffiti not art? just because your blind, dont mean other toys can't spot out someone elses flaws, and help them improve, maby your just a self concious thug wanna be, just shut up, nothing you say helps noone but make you seem more like an asshole. thank you.


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crits please