Blackbooks

[thepekins]

http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/3391/scan0001m.jpg (http://img851.imageshack.us/i/scan0001m.jpg/)
Quick pen freestyle. lol i know im not intermediate.

[thepekins]

http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/3391/scan0001m.jpg (http://img851.imageshack.us/i/scan0001m.jpg/)
pen freestyle. the B is fucked. I gotta ton of other shit to put on here, just too lazy to do it all right now

[Tempo718]

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[Gatsoi]

Tempo, chill son.
Somber, Watch your bar width, the B,O, and R look good

http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac9/gatsoi/10-1.jpg

[sevenways]

19439

shut the fuck up and post pictures.

[Gatsoi]

Tempo, chill son.
Somber, Watch your bar width, the B,O, and R look good

http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac9/gatsoi/10-1.jpg

bump

[ian]

http://i.imgur.com/3zOG3l.jpg

bumping for crits

water that looks pretty good, i dont like the weird extension on the e and the bottom of the w is kinda small. also your letters seem to get bigger as you go from left to right, work on that

mewn the E looks better but i still dont like that top left corner, just cut it like you did with the top left of the M and N and i think it would look better

[extinct]

yo mewn your friends with werm... i can see style influences up on the w an m

[Tempo718]

19439

shut the fuck up and post pictures.
this is so wavy . heh

[NosE2]

that e doesnt fit

[rockytherocker]

The post is very informative. It is a pleasure reading it. I have also bookmarked you for checking out new posts.

orlando limo ( http://www.parislimousineorlando.com)

[FlatScank]

@Sevenways, thats a fresh sketch that should be on a wall

[Gatsoi]

@Zewl You down to exchange?

[Skope2]

Sevenways that piece is sick!

Looking for crits on these two.
Redid the 'O' on repo to make the cut look less like a 'C' the 'R' still covers too much of the 'E' though, will need to work on that.
And far too many connections and shit on SKOPE, will not be repeating that style, just looking for anything else you can spot for me to work on.

[Phat 2]

i like the first one more
but you need to define your letters. it's illegible. very.

[ribcage]

it's illegible. very.

what he said, 3d dont look that bad tho

[TastyMcNasty]

skope- go simpler, but that 3D is looking pre good...

new shit, crits?

[TastyMcNasty]

somber- your O and B dont really match everything else, but other than that its looking pre good...
safe- thats a pre clean style you got going on, i like it.
4menace- finish that! its looking doope

i know i dont belong here, but i like the crits i got... so here it goes... crits'd be nice, and the charac was just a result of boredom

[thepekins]

http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/3391/scan0001m.jpg (http://img851.imageshack.us/i/scan0001m.jpg/)
pen freestyle. the B is fucked. I gotta ton of other shit to put on here, just too lazy to do it all right now

bump got no crits on the last pg except for mewn

[thepekins]

idk if you write repo or not but theres already a repo

[bomber boy]

bump got no crits on the last pg except for mewn

ye i like the letters but the first thing i notice is that in your first letter u only use straight bars like in most of ur letters i think it would look alot better if u kept the straight bar style for the u and the b

[bomber boy]

letters looking gd although the direction of ur 3d has changed at the end i also like ur character and how u have ur tag in his smoke cloud its a good idea

[Cl4sh]

Haven't posted on here in a minute. Heres some shit I did in class today. Trying to progress. Can't tell if I'm getting better or worse. My S's suck. My hands seem to be getting better at least...

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[ian]

ChASH lol, still no good

[Cl4sh]

Funny that you said that. That's a joke between me and my friends that know I write. Love that L though for some reason. And what's still no good. The hand or the shitty piece?

[TastyMcNasty]

clash- work on your bar consitancey, simple it up a bit more, dont connect the letters like your doing, and you should get better

[Skope2]

idk if you write repo or not but theres already a repo
Ah right, yea i am. Ill start writing something else instead then. Cheers for the heads up.

[ViniVidiVici]

Pretty nice, the O just looks funny though like that, although I don't know how else you should do it, watch your bar on the K, the main bar is off a little if you look closely, 3d is off on the S a little. the E is a little to extreme bar wise, I know you were going for bigger bars on it, but that is a little much, make it just a tad smaller, now you could actually make the 3D bigger at the E and then scale it back as you get close to the S, it would make it look like the S if further away and the E is closer to the viewer, it would be tricky to get it right but would be dope. Just some ideas.

[Skope2]

thanks man. im really struggling with the O's at the moment.

[ViniVidiVici]

Yeah it's hard to make unique Os....

[jypsy]

((accidentally posted this in the wrong thread, moved it here))
Another design I sketched up last night:
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[SicK-]

Lol jypsy you need to learn to color in between the lines bro

[Sbal]

jypsy is a 22 year old girl from the south

[Tempo718]

clash - i think the letters in ur name work well together, that should be a fun word to play around wit. peace

[Dcicfhbimv]

Made this piece of junk a lil while ago I dont like it but maybe you could tell me if anything went right with it .
Jypsy-Yeah they kinda covered eberything already
Skope-Really like all but the "O" try layering your gray to make shadow on the 3-d thats just me but I think it would look real tight.

[Fube]

sever huh? please dont write that. im hopeing your just fuckin around.

[Tempo718]

my first sketch with pencil, in years. am i not pressin down hard enough or what. 19495
cop'd me a sketch pad & mechanical pencil one time yesterday. chinese lady got got. biyyytch. yeh

[Skope2]

Tempo i suggest getting two pencils, one for sketching and keep the other real sharp for outlining.

[Tempo718]

alright skope thats a good point, are mechanical pencils any better than regular pencils?

[Skope2]

Jypsy - You should definately take a few steps backwards. It doesnt look like youre ready for the more complex stuff yet. I'd carry on hitting throwies and bubble until youve really nailed it, then it'll make getting into the bar-type lettering much easier.
Sever - That fill is sick but your letters are majorly lacking structure. Youve got to use bars!

[Skope2]

oh yea tempo dont bother with mechanical pencils. just buy a shit load of the usual HB pencils and a half decent sharpener. theyre cheap as hell.

[Tempo718]

haha even the monkey got swag son. thaswassup
alright then i need a few of those then. all i got is this mechanical one.

[ntn]

tryin out different styles...

whatya think?

[ian]

tempo please stop posting every single piece of shit you draw, sever you need to use BARS, Skope thats pretty sick except the bottom of the right bar in the P connecting to the left bar doesnt really fit the piece

[Shofs17]

Not the best, but crits por favor

[Skope2]

Abby theres way too many extensions in there that you dont need. I think it would look like a decent piece if you cut the extensions

[PermanentMarkers]

Made this piece of junk a lil while ago I dont like it but maybe you could tell me if anything went right with it .
Jypsy-Yeah they kinda covered eberything already
Skope-Really like all but the "O" try layering your gray to make shadow on the 3-d thats just me but I think it would look real tight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQKHH28Ojg8

Listen to Fube.

[alre]

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/4199/snc00054z.jpg

[Tempo718]

19519
Sorry bout my camera sux

[ViniVidiVici]

That has lots of potential, only letter that is weak is the M but the rest are fairly good and you kept the same style throughout, not bad.

[Phat 2]

that's cool tempo

[Skope2]

CPA - You really need to take a look at how to use bars instead of going in like that. The letter proportions are all out of whack, the P extends into the A far too much.
Tempo - Thats a better improvement than your other shit! nice work.

Going with a new style here, not finished yet. Theres something wrong with it, but i cant quite put my finger on it. If i could get some crits that would be cool..

[ViniVidiVici]

The E is messed up and the bottom of the S could look better, not gonna say anything about the whole KO deal I'm sure your gonna try to make it work.

[Skope2]

Yea i blitzed that KO thing entirely. It was definately a shit idea. Hows this instead?

[ViniVidiVici]

Looks better than before, but the S still needs something imo....

[ribcage]

k looks like an r dont connect the 2 right legs

[Phat 2]

i liked the first sketch almost a million times better

[ViniVidiVici]

Eh I think they both are pretty good he just maybe fix each...

[ViniVidiVici]

Did this during one of my classes, didn't know the name was taken, but whatever...

[ribcage]

E is super plain and looks like a backwards 3, width of bottom bar of D is off as well. the middle bar of the N is lookin a little weird too

[Skope2]

Vini - pretty much what ribcage said, the 3D looks decent though


Ended up with this, it was definately more hassle than its worth.

[inthecity]

http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/3373/markmaskr.jpg

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/292/markshit.jpg

[ribcage]

@skope what happened to the P? its lookin pretty hurt. and it seems like your jumpin steps again puttin breaks and extensions in, they are wack

cut the nose off the P and start by makin it a circular P cause right now u have part squared off and part rounded. Work on having consistent bar width before you start putting breaks in your letters. Look at the O, the break in it doesnt match up width the rest of the O. Err body is gonna keep telling you to work on the basics until you got it down.

go simpiler and try to make sense with your letters before you start throwin in add ons, extensions, etc

[Isaac]

weird robot stuff?1955219553

[ribcage]

who wants to be the first to tell this ***** to go simpler?

[FuckTheFame]

Isaac - keep at it. thats original. just learn where to place your layers a little better. develop that style

some structured stuff i been working on
cant really make a straight line tho
my hand shakes everytime i try to
thanks a lot east coast molly


http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5253/5500350077_75104191be.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55010972@N05/5500350077/)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5100/5500945530_2d15d0e60d.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55010972@N05/5500945530/)

[Tempo718]

19560

Still practicing bars.

IMO that Y on the bottom look good. @ youth

[FuckTheFame]

thanks man
whats up with those gaps between your letters tempo?
i think your stuff would look a lot better if you made your letters closer together

random ZEN i did to be calm haha

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5054/5500945940_c37bd60ccc.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55010972@N05/5500945940/)

[pointman]

YOUTH second one down is fire just maybe needs tweaking not sure to what, maybe a smaller T extension but either way thats what im hoping to go for when i get my lettering down!

[FuckTheFame]

yah man. been messing around with shit for a while.
you write sato right?
i been bored lately
care if try some sato stuff?

[thepekins]

http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/6186/scan0002mi.jpg (http://img577.imageshack.us/i/scan0002mi.jpg/)
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1677/scan0003wf.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/i/scan0003wf.jpg/)
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/3166/scan0004ww.jpg (http://img703.imageshack.us/i/scan0004ww.jpg/)
http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/8014/scan0005w.jpg (http://img577.imageshack.us/i/scan0005w.jpg/)
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5858/scan0006lt.jpg (http://img96.imageshack.us/i/scan0006lt.jpg/)
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/9141/scan0007cf.jpg (http://img189.imageshack.us/i/scan0007cf.jpg/)

[thepekins]

isaac- cant read that shit go simple

youth- the ZEN piece is mad wack sorry dude, seen way better from you. The second youth piece is dope. except for the bottom of the y. The U on the first one is dope

tempo- cant even really crit your shit its simple as fuck. just yeah at least its legible

[weedeater]

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5100/5500945530_2d15d0e60d.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55010972@n05/5500945530/)

dope

[inthecity]

http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/3637/markgreen.jpg

just some garbage

[FuckTheFame]

inthecity - thats not really all that bad. looks good for the amount of effort you put into it. itd be cool to see all your letters have a slant like the M and A do

[ribcage]

@pekins, diggin the S and the M on that last 1, u should post some shit you've sketched out tho most the ballpoint pen freestyles have the same base to em they all startin to look similar ya digg?

[inthecity]

thanks for the input homie, gonna bang out some sketches tonight.

[FuckTheFame]

some random stuff SATO
lol might help you with some inspiration if your having trouble
throw a youth at me if you got the time

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5294/5500884047_940e90cf5b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55010972@N05/5500884047/)

[swae101]

http://i56.tinypic.com/121crpy.jpg

http://i52.tinypic.com/2d17dc.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/hvdmas.jpg

http://i56.tinypic.com/20scpw.jpg

http://i56.tinypic.com/16c036h.jpg

http://i52.tinypic.com/14e79ep.jpg[/quote]

[SicK-]

lol swae that first one looks like a bite off of salty

[inthecity]

diggin the 4th swae

[swae101]

lol swae that first one looks like a bite off of salty

haha wtf do you have down syndrome?
salty is ill but a mushroom cloud is a mushroom cloud not a signature

[SicK-]

Bro im just sayin first thing i thought off when i saw that was salty

[Dcicfhbimv]

sever huh? please dont write that. im hopeing your just fuckin around.

your hope has been answered. Im pretty sure I mentioned it sucking figured it was at least toy thread worthy. ANd feel free to give me some words to write my friend just told me to write that one and I was like sure. 3 minutes later that thing happened.

[inthecity]

bumpin this to the next page
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/7510/mark492.jpg

[sir.to.you.]

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5012/5501932502_66d5302c0a.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58969092@N06/5501932502/)
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5177/5501340219_2aeda11542.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58969092@N06/5501340219/)
ARROW HAPPY

[elesdee]

that says BR right? the r is prey ugly and I see two bars in the middle of the s that don't make sense to me, turn that hand into a one liner and i think it would be pretty sick.
and keep your bars proportional

[FuckTheFame]

http://i54.tinypic.com/hvdmas.jpg

soo fuckin dope
i gotta learn how to make bars like this
swae you fuckin killed it man

[Cl4sh]

Mark: That food looks gross.
Sir: You have like a billion arrows. Stop. And drop the crown.
How can I make this less shitty guyzzz?
19572

[ribcage]

start by fixing bar width on all your letters

[FuckTheFame]

and fix your structure. make your letters more "box-like" if that means anything
bars are easy to understand if you go to the new to graffiti thread
or check out that acid above you and youll understand what everyone means by bars

[Gatsoi]

http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac9/gatsoi/11-2.jpg

[Tempo718]

did you already post that one 2 weeks ago?

[namesmeannothing]

Sir to u.. need to do some simple and drop color and everything else and just do simples..
Like it mewl..here's a few pages out my bb..
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h338/bonesta3/2011-02-20112906.jpg
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h338/bonesta3/2011-02-20112947.jpg
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h338/bonesta3/2011-02-20112823.jpg
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h338/bonesta3/2011-03-03212145.jpg
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h338/bonesta3/2011-03-03211744.jpg

[Skope2]

Clash - Youve got to work on structure pal, those extensions on the L, C and H are whack as shit. I'd ditch those altogether. To be fair it wouldnt look too bad if you tidied it up a bit. Get those straight lines level and actually straight.

Mewn - Not sure if that E fits the style, but it looks pretty sick anyway!

Been playing around with the word 'Denie' - The D looks a bit like a P, and not sure about the 3D.
Crits would be appreciated.

[swae101]

soo fuckin dope
i gotta learn how to make bars like this
swae you fuckin killed it man

thanks man i guess it was to weak for intermediate though

[Tempo718]

skope im really feeling this denie. do it up son!

oh yeah an vader? im impressed kid. ur very creative wit your fills an all that. peace

[sir.to.you.]

Clash.........homie how you gunna say anything to anyone. Dave Chapelle said it best "thats doo doo baby!" And i never say shit to no one too, but you made me do it.

[Sbal]

shut up dude you suck mega wiener

[Tempo718]

shut up dude you suck mega wiener
megggaaaa wiener duuuke

[Norfsuthr]

http://piczasso.com/i/hz1j2.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/)

Denie- the only things i dont like are how far the dot is from the rest of the i and the D would look better connected, or if that disconnected part was broken and a little slanted you get me? Also it looks a little like a P so watch that

Vade I like that third one, a little too much special effects and shit, but good letters. keep doing your thing

[ribcage]

^Thats on point *****, only thing id say is its kinda hard to see cause the colors you chose, if u went over it with a slightly darker blue or even the same blue just made a lil darker its be dope

[sir.to.you.]

i know im no good and im not givin out critz like i do

[Phat 2]

yeah 3rd thats wicked. shouldda went back over the outline with a reg. blue

[Skope2]

Not sure if the cloudy I thing was a good idea. Just looking for crits i guess.
Ill give some out when theres some more up here, obviously its a new page and that..

[FlatScank]

Decent man, though maybe just keeping the clouds for the dot in the "I" would have been better.

was bored on the plane heading to Greece, crits are welcome.

[SicK-]

http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt265/gzus1994/Picture1-1.jpg
Lol

[thepekins]

flat-wack ass shit.... learn how to do a handstyle and also learn how to do a piece

werm- ditch the thing in the W. Top of right bar, bottom of right bar on the R are wack. Top of S is also wack

Skope- the top of both Es doesnt really flow with the rest. The clouds dont look to good

[weedeater]

i dont think thats an S, i think its just an extension

[SicK-]

Yeah no S i was just fuxin around nothing serious

[Sbal]

Vadr, a couple of those are really sick, reminiscent of local styles around here.
Denie- not feeling the cloud i or the bump in the middle of the D
Flat- you should do simps again with some sick color schemes, i think those would look good.
Werm- im feeling it mostly, but those little extinsions do need fixing

can i get crits on this?
19652

[extinct]

AYO
once upon a time i said "i only wanna do pieces!"... how toy i was...
handstyle is everything... they are the building blocks for throwies pieces everything... just like how keyboard letters make simples.... and anyone can do a fancy fill and your cutoffs and random extensions make me angry... the way the cycle is suppose to go is handstyle throwies and then pieces... if you got calligraphy skip the first step... just felt like dropping knowledge cause 've watched so many graff videos and learned so much history bout newyork and my own city... know your knowledge before you play the game...
before you comment on something really toy and say it is good... realize if ya wanna get better, know what better is... cause decent isnt enough to cut it...
THIS IS A MESSAGE FOR ALL YOU NEW COMERS... you know who you are... no hate though

[extinct]

oh ya spane-your extension on the a is wack and the e could use a little work

[ribcage]

@sbal fix your bar width, especially on the circular part of the P and the E. Take your time sketchin out your bars, look at the A, the crossing part you made extending isnt on the right bar isnt at the right spot, it should be higher making it all 1 bar. And your shadow is off at some places

[Sbal]

lol thanks

[madekdga]

flat-wack ass shit.... learn how to do a handstyle and also learn how to do a piece

werm- ditch the thing in the W. Top of right bar, bottom of right bar on the R are wack. Top of S is also wack

Skope- the top of both Es doesnt really flow with the rest. The clouds dont look to good

yo, you should try some constructive criticism instead of "wack ass shit" or "learn how to do a piece"... these dudes are here to learn and get advice from people who might have something worth saying. if i was posting up my stuff when i was first learning and someone simply told me this and that is wack, i'd think to myself 'ya, i know' then id probably tell you to fuck off!

even if you're right about those things, its a pretty weak approach to helping these cats out! you were there once, were you not? i sure was, my shit fuckin sucked at first, but i was fortunate enough to have a few people point me in the right direction, which paid off, and i give props to them now.

aside from that, you guys should forget about extensions of any sort for the time being. there's nothin wrong with havin some cool ideas that you might think will look good, and im sure they do when you picture them in your mind, but putting them on paper is another thing, and its best to master the basics before attempting to throw those ideas into your peices or straight letters. and also, use a pencil !!!! that way you can sketch your letters out and make adjustments easily without starting over, if you notice something looks off on one of your letters, take a look at your keyboard and check out the basics of how that letter is formed and fix that bad boy up! structure is everything, stick with it and you will be mad thankful that you didnt become an ignorant fuck who tried to rock shit that was far out of his league! cheers y'all

http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j418/madekdga/alphabet.gif

[cheese_dreams]

a few piece ideas from the ol' sketchbook

[thepekins]

@madekdga- i know what your saying dude. I mostly just said that cus Ive already told flat to work on his hands and go simple, so has everyone but hes still doing the same shit. I understand constructive criticism and sometimes i give good crits, sometimes im lazy and spend less time on them. It kinda depends on the person. Notice i specifically said which parts of the other two peoples pieces needed work. Its whatever ima do me :cool:

@cheesedreams- definitely go simpler. idk what the first letter is supposed to be and the arrow coming off of it is wack. The P and U are the best. Go to the new to graffiti thread and look at some of the stuff about turning straight letters into pieces and shit. Use bars and maybe dont worry about doing the bg right now

[cheese_dreams]

@cheesedreams- definitely go simpler. idk what the first letter is supposed to be and the arrow coming off of it is wack. The P and U are the best. Go to the new to graffiti thread and look at some of the stuff about turning straight letters into pieces and shit. Use bars and maybe dont worry about doing the bg right now

yeah fair call, (it's an F btw) I don't really like pieces that much atm, mainly cause I'm shithouse at them, just like the ideas behind them really, as in I would almost consider them advanced sketches or planning for future blackbook stuff

[Tempo718]

19658
is this complete shit?

[Gatsoi]

Flat- work on your hands
Wem- Diggin the R, the E looks like dookie
Sbal- Your 3d and Bar consistency is off
cheese_dreams- Shits ugly. Bite your keyboard
Tempo- Yes

http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac9/gatsoi/13-2.jpg
I tried some new shit, Tell me what i should keep/scrap

[BoomSlang]

mewn, keep basic letter structure and work from that, refine it till you can even out the bars on all the letters and make them consistent even in your sleep. scrap the arrow, the colors and the eyeball in the e, also sort the leading edge of the e out to get rid of that sharp point, looks a bit out of place also scrap the drop shadow as it is all over the place, compare front of the m with the bottom on the n, they arent even in the same hemisphere bud

[DarthMario]

few sketches, just piecing together some letters

[Phat 2]

roflmao @ the last charac... good stuff man :P haha

[Flawless Victory]

a few piece ideas from the ol' sketchbook
http://i55.tinypic.com/21e9o35.jpg

Those things on your F look mega bad dude, just cut those off.
Make your letters more balanced and less "I closed my eyes and tried to draw the letter in one stroke" looking.
Work on your hand, a lot.
The superfat second outline with an added third outline is just goofy looking.
Anarchy is a flawed theory, control and authority are natural inevitabilities, as are the people that stray from them.

I'd also say pull your P out a little bit more.

[smokeitup]

http://i883.photobucket.com/albums/ac31/smokeitup421/IM000805.jpg

CRITTTTTSSSSSSSSSSSSSS...?

[cheese_dreams]

thanks for all the crits on my work, I would like to eventually get better on putting letters together, I think I'll go back to pencils for a bit and work on that first

[FACTone]

@smoke lose those spike addons. also you E is way to big.
19704
i will color it. critz...

[ribcage]

yo dont color it yet, middle crossing bar of F looks like u ignored, its just a dinky little bar, change it. The little extensions/kicks you put on the bottom of the F and left bar of A need to look like the ones you did on the T. Right bar of A looks a little skinny compared to the rest, but that aint as big of deal as the kick/extension on the bottom of it, its too skinny, make it fatter. hoped that helps in someway

[cheese_dreams]

another attempt, I know the P is a little off size compared to the D
I tried using bars this time

[FACTone]

yo dont color it yet, middle crossing bar of F looks like u ignored, its just a dinky little bar, change it. The little extensions/kicks you put on the bottom of the F and left bar of A need to look like the ones you did on the T. Right bar of A looks a little skinny compared to the rest, but that aint as big of deal as the kick/extension on the bottom of it, its too skinny, make it fatter. hoped that helps in someway

tanks mate

[cheese_dreams]

some more attempts, 1 basic, one inked, one with some extras

[Skope2]

Smoke - that fill is too much for me, hurts my eyes looking at it. Think it'd be a decent throw without the top half of that fill.
Fact - thats pretty nice but the T is just a bit higher than the other letters, you might want to bring the bottom half downwards a touch
Fedup - you need to work on your outlines alot, its real fucking messy, the F and E in the bottom two are much smaller than the rest, you should try and get all your letters roughly the same size.. Id straighten up that P aswell, i know youve got it tilted as part of your thing, but it would look alot better if it wasnt tipped so much. I'd reccomend taking a look at the 'New to graffiti, start here!" thread, it'll help you out with your letter structure ALOT.

Went for something a bit different here, looking for crits please.

[ViniVidiVici]

Change up the N and I, they kinda break the flow I think, but it looks pretty good so far

[ViniVidiVici]

Besides the A I think the E has a few slight problems, the main bar (left bar) doesn't seem to line up with the top and bottom parts, I hope that makes sense, and the tippity top bar looks a little to thin.

[ribcage]

idk what you mean by not lining up wit "top and bottom parts" elaborate, and lookin at it now the curve in the left bar(hidden by G) isnt on the same level that all the letters curve at, and yeah top bar is too thin...fasho breh

[FACTone]

@skope2 i like it make a bigger-one i only think the I wont flow.
19727
finally done.
i only hate that my on the run markers die so fast someone got the same problem?

[Phat 2]

that looks like shit
the color scheme I meant... it's cool :P

[arsebanditskaelsucker]

cheese- think that 3d needs a little work there ;) love the little mental characters tho dude keep going :)

some of my shit not done anything for a while still working on them bars and making life easier for myself now cuz even i realised how much better you can make shit look when you gots a bit of structure going on lol

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/2969/1004862.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/i/1004862.jpg/)
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/3851/10048602.jpg (http://img833.imageshack.us/i/10048602.jpg/)

[Sbal]

lol at the second one

[H1P30N3R]

tourney piece battle .... tear it apart lol other than my drop shadow on the c and a being purple is because my black marked died after the g and e.
http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb409/heyzues07/IMAG0039.jpg

[madekdga]

FEDUP, dont bother with slanting your letters in opposite direction or changing up which letters overlap which, keep it traditional for the time being. and keep using a pencil, no point in using colour. and definitely dont start messin around with 3d overtop of other letters. simple simple simple or ya wont get anywhere. ive said it before and ill say it again, look at your keyboard or any text on this page to see how the letter is created. copy this and try your best to put 3d on it: F E D U P

lets see what you can come up with playboy!

[cheese_dreams]

I took some of your advice on board, ignored some of it (but I will take it into account in the future in further sketches)
and this is what I came up with

[TastyMcNasty]

fedup- you still need to go a bit simpler, and dont do any connections or extensions on the letters yet.

new shit, crits please?

[Skope2]

Soar im not feeling the extension on that S, it looks a bit lower than the other letters too, id make the extension smaller and lift the entire letter a bit. Liking the O and R though, and that background is tight.
Fedup - I think it would be worth you going away and biting some simples from someone just so you can get a gauge of how to do it properly, it'll help you develop your own style.
Not finished this one yet, just looking for anything people can spot out that would be worth changing.

[Kocka]

Hey guys! New to the forums here! I'm from holland and Ive been writing for some time now, but I want to perfect my style a bit more by drawing
more and more in my blackbook. Since I'm new to the forums I figured I'd start in the toy section, and wait till you guys tell me
whether i can move up or not ;). The name i use is Cube or Cubes. used to be Kube, but i figured that i like the C more.

Im also an architecture student, Piercer and tattoo artist, and ive always been fascinated by graffiti art, so i thought id start drawing graff In the fall of 2010.

before posting a couple of my drawing (First ever piece and a recent sketch i did) i'd liek to comment on TastyMcnasty here :):
remember to use similar design principles in the pieces you draw! for example: see how you did the A and the R? the way the
horizontal bars go into the more vertical bars? Use that with the S as well! letters need to have a similar style or the
piece itself doesnt work. Also, try to find a way to not make the O so round. I see youre leaning towards some kind of an old skool
wildstyle, plus you dont have any curves in the other letters, so the round doesnt really do it. you could use a cirkel, but maybe make it
smaller, because now the attention is drawn towards the O so much it looks like you started drawing there. this may sound harsh, but
its not the way im meaning to say it. Just trying to help you on your way!

as for Skope, the W is the only letter where you have two bars one next to the other. I think if you straighten it out, the whole will look a lot better!

here is the first piece i drew using color. not that special really, but i liked it. it was the 3rd piece i ever drew. After the first two, my friend
(Mine, Miner or Mines) explained some designing principals he uses, and i came up with this after that.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f236/Tamachev/100220111308.jpg

and this is something me and the same freind drew the other night. its still a sketch, but this is where i am right now. Ill post the finished piece
up as soon as its done!

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f236/Tamachev/100320111346.jpg

Feel free to crit in whatever way!

[Edit]: Im not too happy about the C yet though.. Ill try to find a way to make it work better with the rest of the piece.

[FlatScank]

3d always helps, drop shadows are cool, but some solid 3d always looks better, drop shadows are more for bombs.

[Kocka]

i agree, but if youre working on a plain white wall (which occurs a lot in holland), it can come out really cool. no crit on the other sketch?

[FlatScank]

not so much, though alot of people will tell you to go simple, but I say just do your thing.
though the only thing I can say is I don't see a "B" in your first sketch.
btw, I'm in Germany, so if you ever find yourself near Heidelberg, you should msg me and we can go paint.

[Kocka]

yeah i shouldve overlapped the B over the U. about going simple, I'd like to aim high for myself. it's always worked out well for me. and i will! wont be in the near future though, but if im passing through ill take you up on that offer! I remember being in Frankfurt, and i couldnt really spot a good piece anywhere. Stuttgart is a bit different, expecially the huge wall near the Mercedes Museum. some cool stuff there!

[unique93]

hy everybody :D

I didn't draw sketches for about three months...but I am back :D

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/4816/dizer.th.jpg (http://img707.imageshack.us/i/dizer.jpg/)

[SicK-]

Soar your need to take the crits your giving and apply them to your work, lose the silly extentions brah

[Skope2]

Cubes - that first piece with the colour needs some real structure work, i'd suggest going simpler but that second piece is seriously fucking sick!!

Dont think the eye thing ontop of the I went as well as i'd hoped. Looks pretty gay.
And the polished version of the one i uploaded earlier.

[Phat 2]

cubes, your second flick doesn't belong here... that's far beyond toy level homie
first one needs work but you have something going on there... good job

[NosE2]

kocker, tell your friend not to write mines...

[Dcicfhbimv]

Tried using the whole bar thing think it turned out alright for writing in the back seat of a car.
And yeah cubes the 2nd one looks pretty tight so far. Not a huge fan of the 1st one.
skope i like them both except the eye it looks pretty bad. If you go for the eye again I'd try removing the pink outline thing surrounding the ball itself and make the optic nerve "the strand running out from the back" thinner and less collected make it banch out and fray a bit and I'm sure it would look way nicer.

[Phat 2]

http://www.zedia.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/LikeButton.gif

[Kocka]

nose2: He's Been writing Mine for about 8 years now :p. I mean Ill tell him, but why :P? oh, And Kocka isnt for kocker, kocka, pronounced as kotska is cube in bosnian ;)


and guys thanks for all the crits! and Phat 2, thanks man.. Ill finish up the piece and move it up somewhere on the forums, see what they have to say :)!

Dcicfhbimv: Not a style Im particularly familiar with, but i like it man!

[TastyMcNasty]

yo thanks for all the crits, ill try and post a flick of a "better" peice tomorrow...

cube- i agree with everyone else, not a huge fan of the first but that second is wayyy beyond being conidered toy.
drive- that is the first pic from you that ive actually liked, keep that shit up, but your letter structure still could use some work, not bad tho/

[Dcicfhbimv]

Just working on coming up with some letters trying to stick to the whole bar thing. are the bars alright? figured I'd ask you guys I think I'm finally getting a grasp on the whole bar concept. And thanks Tasty.

[extinct]

soar- dont forget about our exchange... ill have yours up monday
and above^^- your basic bars are good... flexing them doesnt mean add wack connections everywhere... style comes naturally bitten or orginal, dont force it

[DarthMario]

just a little something i just did messing around, fitting letters together

any input?

[FlatScank]

make each letter the same width
use bars.

[nah!]

I don't have any markers to colour this in at the moment, the only thing i got is some 0.4mm penis(oops meant pens lol).
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff497/NAHgraff/100_2037.jpg

[unique93]

nah!...draw some blocks, or something like that :D

new sketch...

http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/5236335/640/5236335.jpg (http://picturepush.com/public/5236335)

[TastyMcNasty]

yo unique that shit is dope... only thing i think needs work is the E, but that just my opinion

[Worm*]

New name, new crap!

http://i53.tinypic.com/1fy3hw.jpg
http://i54.tinypic.com/8ymh.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/3004ftc.jpg

I kinda ran out of room in the last one, oh well.

[Skope2]

AZRM - I'm not feeling that bottom one. The last two letters are majorly thin compared to the first two, i know you said you ran out of space but you shouldve noticed when you pencilled it out lol. Not feeling that extension in the A either. I do like that middle one though, that whole chinese/japanese whatever thing is cool!

Dont know if the whole metal plate type thing i tried here was any good. Still reaching for new ideas and direction really.

[FuckTheFame]

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5172/5517132855_e7ec59d2e8.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55010972@N05/5517132855/)

random shit i been working on
unique - add some color
skope2 - dope forcefield would look cool with that
worm - first flik is solid

[Phat 2]

wtf kind of name is Azrm anyway dude...
my main crit to you would basically be to change it and find some better letters and something that can actually be PRONOUNCED right :P

unless its not the name youll be using to write and these are only random letter practice... then it's all cool

[hud]

http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/1435/img0151h.jpg
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/9687/img0157pd.jpg
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/696/img0160y.jpg

can you criticise please?

[madekdga]

dont use more bars than the letter contains, do simple letters. dont bother fooling around with crazy ideas and wildstyles.

[Tempo718]

hud - there is a guy who gets up around me on the side of buildings, he does panels that look like that but a little more organized and not crossing each other.
personnaly i see them and think, cool. but who cares if others don't, thats what he do. and he doit till its done.

[hud]

thanks will do ill make a coupl more nd post them using less bars nd unnesicary shet

[Tempo718]

AZRM - I'm not feeling that bottom one. The last two letters are majorly thin compared to the first two, i know you said you ran out of space but you shouldve noticed when you pencilled it out lol. Not feeling that extension in the A either. I do like that middle one though, that whole chinese/japanese whatever thing is cool!

Dont know if the whole metal plate type thing i tried here was any good. Still reaching for new ideas and direction really.

skope -looking at this one (with the metal) i think he would be a relatively easy piece to paint on a big enough wall, and the aftermath would defiantly be respectful. that is if it turns out on the wall the way it does on paper. lol i like it though. (IMO)

[Tempo718]

tempo is ther any things i can improve on
I honestly am not in anyway qualified to crit you cause my work needs a lot of help too. but if there was one thing in particular it would be as I said in my last post, that crossing the lines without proper knowledge and training turns out looks a little discombobulated so I would say to help keep it looking organized don't cross the bars at all. ... yet

[Stigma02]

crits

[RedEyes]

Stigma-your fill and 3-D are pretty dope, i can see where ur trying to go with it. keep up the good work and sketch over and over again till you better develop that style.

Any crits? didnt get much last page.
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f327/olredeyes/Photo12-3.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f327/olredeyes/Photo20-1.jpg

[FuckMcNasty]

thanks will do ill make a coupl more nd post them using less bars nd unnesicary shet

dont bother, compleatily scap that shit .
either sketch some dubs and work up from that or take up stamp collecting

[FlatScank]

Hud - maybe you should ditch the snowflake style?
Red Eyes - you should paint those around the city your in
Stigma - looks cool, but the only letters I can make out are S and R

Crits, I feel as though the T should be closer to the A.

[thepekins]

NAH- nice and simple keep it comin
UNIQUE- cool shit man. Is the first letter a backwards D? the E is steezin
AZRM- name is no good. go way simple and dont worry about colors
SKOPE- you should go simple with that one
YOUTH- The O is ugly. I like your shit dude but I think you should go simpler for a lil while, like in terms are bar thickness, just to see how it goes
HUD- do letters lol idk what that is
STIGMA- cant read any of that. Cant read the handies either, at least i think those are handies
RESN- crits in intermediate thread

this weeks worth of scribbles. WHERE DA CRITS WHERE DA CRITS WHERE DA CRITS AT!
http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/3962/scan0009.jpg (http://img861.imageshack.us/i/scan0009.jpg/)
http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/7783/scan0008g.jpg (http://img854.imageshack.us/i/scan0008g.jpg/)

http://img864.imageshack.us/img864/984/scan0010fu.jpg (http://img864.imageshack.us/i/scan0010fu.jpg/)
http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/2514/scan0012h.jpg (http://img850.imageshack.us/i/scan0012h.jpg/)

[pointman]

FLAT- letters look good not sure on the two extensions on F and T though other than that together simp in chrome would be fresh
PEKINS- cool you're practicing other letters and things but the letter size bugs on most of them. Like the first pictures P

ready for all of you to shit on this sketch ahah

[unique93]

UNIQUE- cool shit man. Is the first letter a backwards D? the E is steezin

no...that is small letter d :D

[FlatScank]

@ Pointman, you should bring your R out more from the L

[pointman]

Will do! should i have the T overlapping the R or the full letter? and what do you think about the letter type?

[Stigma02]

dylan justin soir sammye

[FlatScank]

Stigma- those are fresh, especially the last one, paint that.
Pointman - you should just bring the R abit more out, so that you can see the bottom left half of the letter abit

Crits

[chiefy]

http://i.imgur.com/YuMMq.jpg

[nah!]

try keep them the same height and keep the bars the same width.

[thepekins]

this weeks worth of scribbles. WHERE DA CRITS WHERE DA CRITS WHERE DA CRITS AT!
http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/3962/scan0009.jpg (http://img861.imageshack.us/i/scan0009.jpg/)
http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/7783/scan0008g.jpg (http://img854.imageshack.us/i/scan0008g.jpg/)

http://img864.imageshack.us/img864/984/scan0010fu.jpg (http://img864.imageshack.us/i/scan0010fu.jpg/)
http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/2514/scan0012h.jpg (http://img850.imageshack.us/i/scan0012h.jpg/)

bump myself
where dem crits at

[Gatsoi]

Somber the R and the S in bars are steezy

Get rid of the negative space

[Phat 2]

to madekdga and everyone else, I'm moderating the toy forums heavily getting rid of all the useless chit chat and only leaving the constructive crits and useful posts and flicks, as you notice in the last page, your constructive post was left intact. nothin personal dude, just doing my job. if your post is a waste of space, please don't post it or it will be removed
examples:
a million consecutive props/hates will be removed and only the first couple will be left... basically repetition, the guy got the message that his shit is dope/whack the first couple times people told him so. either add something to the table or dont post at all.
unconstructive crits like "yo that sucks" will also be removed... elaborate please to keep your post
help to be helped
pics are never removed unless they're repeated or are off topic (ie posting blackbook handstyles in a painted pieces thread, or posting youtube songs in a throw battle thread, it belongs in the "what are you listening to thread" keep it there)
and regarding chit chat, there's always the relatively un-moderated Toy Chat thread everyone loves and everyone's inboxes to fill up. so go nuts there mans
also, useless fights will not be tolerated in public, either take it to beef battle with 2 pics or beef it out verbally in each other's inboxes

dont hate the player of course.
let's make this a better place boys.
thanks
PS If you talk......Post a picture related to the topic in the thread...and Contribute( Crits dont need to be followed by a picture unless you have one) - Viruz

[pointman]

all my dark markers are running out scratchy outlines haha and weird tentacle things...it looked cool in my head okay :o

[BlacktodaFuture]

http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv35/Snowmonkey117/DSCF4057.jpg?t=1300071438

just some quick shit bc i haven't posted in a while

spurt: go simplier!
thepekins: work on your letter spacing, and when you make a bar flair out i feel like you are doing it too robotically if you know what i mean? if not i'll clarify. Your single letters are good for the most part but it seems you have trouble making the piece flow all together. and watch your structure in some spots, if one side of the bar bends then so should the other.
stigma: i feel like you are at the point where you are better and want to advance your letters more but they arn't turning out the best bc you seem to be losing the structure of the letter. keep working at it though. make sure when you add extensions or bend the letter doesn't accidently turn into another letter or a complete mess.

[ribcage]

if its a picture of a big black cock that i post up, ya, fuckin delete that shit!


YES!!! finally something signature worthy, thank you my *****. I am greatful

pic for talk...for round robin tourney, deleted it earliar cause the A is fucked and I would like to redo it but might not find the time...
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g388/ribcage22/0308111521.jpg

[chiefy]

pointman- you should keep the letters more simple
BlacktodaFuture - that looks nice and clean but i feel the R could be betetr but idk how
ribcage - that looks pretty dope and nice and simple but i think your 3d is just abit off.

[pointman]

Tried a simple


http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l514/oniclub/IMG_1197.jpg?t=1300116303

[FACTone]

I'm not really feeling your simple. also the gaps in the letters p and R need to be black because of the 3d fix it

1:first attempt for trow-ups
2:normal
3:did it for hand style battle but turned out in piece
4: old name simple
5:normal
critz are welcome also 2and5 aren't good

[Svc]

pointman-L and r need work
19886

[Skope2]

Pointman - take that style and incorporate the use of bars. Theres a whole bunch of pictures and stuff in the 'New to graffiti' thread thatll give you a decent push in the right direction.
Fact - I dont like the small letters in the middle of the pieces, but thats just personal preference. I like the way youre going with the letters you use for 'Fact' though, but that T on the end needs to be a bit bigger, it looks a little out of proportion to the others.

Pulled this up this morning, not sure if all the different colors work.
The other one is just a refined version of the one i uploaded on the page before.

Crits would be appreciated.

[ribcage]

ribcage - that looks pretty dope and nice and simple but i think your 3d is just abit off.

yo where at? all i see is inconsistent angles at the top...

[ViniVidiVici]

Nice piece..... Here's a new piece I did, trying to get some different more unique Ds, but eh... not working, crits welcome

[weedeater]

work on using the same style for each letter, none of them really flow together. it looks like you spent alot of time on the D and the S, but the H came out being your best letter. also work on keeping them all the same size, as well as bar width.

[ian]

yo where at? all i see is inconsistent angles at the top...

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g388/ribcage22/0308111521.jpg

ill help ya here, left side of the C goes straight left, but the top part of the right side of the C goes down and to the left at a 45 degree angle. the bottom part on the right goes down and left, but it is less of an angle than 45 degrees. left side of the A looks straight to the left, inside of the top of the A also goes straight left, bottom part of the A goes at a 45 degree angle again. Left side of the G goes down and left slightly, not quite straight but close too it. top right of the G goes 45 degrees again, as does the bottom right. left of the E goes a little more down and to the left than the G, top right is about 45 degrees again, bottom right is a bit less than 45 degrees. if you wanna go straight left, then do it, you wont be able to see the bottom or top of anything, only the left side. if youre goin for 45 degrees down left, the angles on the top of the CGE are a little funky for that, and the 3D would be barely visible if it is visible at all on the top part of the C but totally visible on the bottom left, if you need me to i can show you but i tried to explain as best i could

[pointman]

No effects shadow or 3d just trying to get the letters themselves down.

[ntn]

@SPLRT
the 2nd one is much better than the 1st one. looks cleaner and it flows more.
but the S is in a different style than the rest. and the T is kinda apart of it. try to make the T part of all.
but i like that stlye keepitup

[Bazer]

splrt... looks like youre worried about the negative space. work on your letter spacing.

[Skope2]

SPLRT - your letters seem to get smaller as it goes across the page. You should put down some parallel lines like this
----------------
SPLRT
----------------
So you can get them all the same length and in a straight line. Obviously just rub the lines out when youre done.

Going to put some color into these tommorow.

[pointman]

Skope - really liking the first piece and you're fills are always really good . Cant decide if the 3d is too much on the last letter but what do i know im shit at 3d anyway haha
ok thanks for the crits i will work on it! did a quick one before im off its just a rough pencil sketch.

[ian]

^dude use bars and keep their widths consistent

[ViniVidiVici]

Splrt - That S is whack just redo it and use bars. also your holes in the P and R are horrible, follow your letters curves.

Skope - First one is good, second one is okay, I think the huge 3D on the last E is not needed though

[extinct]

19915 its sideways...

[cheese_dreams]

ok, tried more to follow the advice, here it is, unjoined, minimal extensions, with bonus tags around the outside

[Skope2]

Dude that looks about 10x better than the previous stuff you uploaded. Just keep working and refining that style until you can really nail it. Then youll be able to start progressing toward that more complex lettering.

[ribcage]

ill help ya here, left side of the C goes straight left, but the top part of the right side of the C goes down and to the left at a 45 degree angle. the bottom part on the right goes down and left, but it is less of an angle than 45 degrees. left side of the A looks straight to the left, inside of the top of the A also goes straight left, bottom part of the A goes at a 45 degree angle again. Left side of the G goes down and left slightly, not quite straight but close too it. top right of the G goes 45 degrees again, as does the bottom right. left of the E goes a little more down and to the left than the G, top right is about 45 degrees again, bottom right is a bit less than 45 degrees. if you wanna go straight left, then do it, you wont be able to see the bottom or top of anything, only the left side. if youre goin for 45 degrees down left, the angles on the top of the CGE are a little funky for that, and the 3D would be barely visible if it is visible at all on the top part of the C but totally visible on the bottom left, if you need me to i can show you but i tried to explain as best i could

yee now that i look at it the 3d is pretty fucked, when i look at it all I see is my fucked up A so the 3d mistakes slipped by... good looks

[ian]

yee now that i look at it the 3d is pretty fucked, when i look at it all I see is my fucked up A so the 3d mistakes slipped by... good looks

anytime my man. id suggest making a vanishing point and taking all your corners to the point with a straight edge, itll prevent mistakes in the 3d

[nah!]

to madekdga and everyone else, I'm moderating the toy forums heavily getting rid of all the useless chit chat and only leaving the constructive crits and useful posts and flicks, as you notice in the last page, your constructive post was left intact. nothin personal dude, just doing my job. if your post is a waste of space, please don't post it or it will be removed
examples:
a million consecutive props/hates will be removed and only the first couple will be left... basically repetition, the guy got the message that his shit is dope/whack the first couple times people told him so. either add something to the table or dont post at all.
unconstructive crits like "yo that sucks" will also be removed... elaborate please to keep your post
help to be helped
pics are never removed unless they're repeated or are off topic (ie posting blackbook handstyles in a painted pieces thread, or posting youtube songs in a throw battle thread, it belongs in the "what are you listening to thread" keep it there)
and regarding chit chat, there's always the relatively un-moderated Toy Chat thread everyone loves and everyone's inboxes to fill up. so go nuts there mans
also, useless fights will not be tolerated in public, either take it to beef battle with 2 pics or beef it out verbally in each other's inboxes

dont hate the player of course.
let's make this a better place boys.
thanks
PS If you talk......Post a picture related to the topic in the thread...and Contribute( Crits dont need to be followed by a picture unless you have one) - Viruz


does that say ack? HAHAHA
.

[pointman]

From bar letters working on spacing rubbing out parts and shit.

[ian]

^you have to bend and use the bars even when you move away from keyboard letters man, you cant just draw keyboard letters and then fuck around with them. keep the widths consistent, the middle of the s and top of the p and r are way thin compared to other parts


quick sketch in class
http://i.imgur.com/wOKcJl.jpg

[pointman]

Il delete the crap above, thanks for the advice ian this is the first time ive actually sat down and attempted the lettering i usually stick to characters and things.

[Phat 2]

@Skope2

both those sketches are def improvements from your previous works. good stuff man, keep going.
as for crits, the D in the first sketch looks like a U, mainly cuz you left the top two bars separate, the line between them needs to go so that they merge and become one curved bar. look out for that one. and unlike what the other mans said, personally, I dig the big 3D on the E and would advise you to enlarge the rest of the letters' 3Ds to match that of the E's instead of shortening out the E's out to match the rest of the letters. maybe use a vanishing point at the far right of the piece to slant your 3D's lines a bit to give the whole piece a bit of depth. i reckon it would look MUCH doper than isometric 3D going in one parallel way.
keep developing

[FuckTheFame]

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5259/5530786418_b8386bf847.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55010972@N05/5530786418/)

BLUE - nice colors
POINTMAN - looking good. your progression is dope
cheese dreams - whats up with color
IAN - work on your flow

[ViniVidiVici]

Youth not bad, the Y is good I think, I still think your H needs work.

New stuff, only really get to sketch during class, just doing quickies.... The D looks shitty, I'mma fix the bars on it later, got fucked up when I tried to darken around it.

[urks]

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/8067/016vop.jpg
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8451/017iz.jpg
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/9837/018cfz.jpg
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/9883/019oc.jpg

[pointman]

-Youth dope as always keep up the good work! i need to get back to you on that exchange..maybe when im a little better! i promise
-Dosh really like the whole 3d thing going on but i think you said it yourself about the D
-ERKL? top one is dope but i think its the proportion thing just making it look right ya know? oh and dope handstyles man from what i can see!

Last one for tonight im off to bed its 2 am here hahaha
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5095/5531027280_598e37f11f.jpg

[ribcage]

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5259/5530786418_b8386bf847.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55010972@N05/5530786418/)

BLUE - nice colors
POINTMAN - looking good. your progression is dope
cheese dreams - whats up with color
IAN - work on your flow

bump this *****, looks dope, kinda aint diigin the zigzag in the tail of the Y but it probably looks better with it then without it

[ViniVidiVici]

Splrt - much improvement, but the 3D/shadow is off at points, also a few of your bars are a tad messy still, but it still is a lot better.

[ian]

two more, tried to give em more flow

http://i.imgur.com/YIHmel.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Mo2cJl.jpg

youth-dope style, i like your colorful fills a lot

splrt-better, but still not there, you need to do some more keyboard letters to learn how your letters are made up of different bars then incorporate the same bars into your pieces, a few of your things just dont quite line up right

erkl-those are all pretty good, although i hope the first and last say urkl because if not that is some kinda fucked E

[urks]

two more, tried to give em more flow

http://i.imgur.com/YIHmel.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Mo2cJl.jpg

youth-dope style, i like your colorful fills a lot

splrt-better, but still not there, you need to do some more keyboard letters to learn how your letters are made up of different bars then incorporate the same bars into your pieces, a few of your things just dont quite line up right

erkl-those are all pretty good, although i hope the first and last say urkl because if not that is some kinda fucked E

thanks. ye they got that U in em. yo the first flick is clean but you gotta get rid of the elongated extensions on the N, S, & E. just shorten em up and you'll be good to go.

[KAWT]

i'm pretty toy i know, but i am really rusty because i haven't done graff for a few months. i did a quick piece in class and wanted some advice with it. here's a picture...
http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd442/kawt1/Capture.png

[DarthMario]

any thoughts? don't like the D, messed up the shadow too as I used a bold tip

[KAWT]

thanks bro. i have some crits for yours,
-it's well structured and it's good you didn't go all try hard on it
-dope character next to it
-the fill is really interisting
but you should of done it bigger since it looks like something that would be on a train

[Skope2]

KAWT, that piece is incredibly messy... Take it alot simpler. Drop all of the whack extensions, they mess up your letter structure and make it hard to see whats a letter and what isnt. Your bars are also very uneven, you should work on the proportions a bit more.
I cant stress this enough, those extensions are ruining the piece.

[ViniVidiVici]

Noise - what Urks said, the first one is nice but not the extensions
Kawt - Start over completely and use bars and/or keyboard letters
WMD - Some serious flaws in it, 3D is not correct at all. The letters themselves need work, use bars, and I hate to say it but the karak is not dope as KAWT claims....

[MadHeat]

New to this forum crits welcome

[ViniVidiVici]

I like them, but not the last one, first one is iffy too. I would say the second one is the best but the A is slightly confusing.

New old stuff, basically just tried to fix some of my old doodles.
Tried to fix the D and N bars
19981
Tried to fix the D bars and the O
19979
Tried to make the D bigger to look better
19980

Ds are killing me lately, hard to find good ways to manipulate the bars but still retain the letter.... If that makes sense....

[MadHeat]

Noise~ I like the bottom style a lot better, Keep it simpler. heres a mod I did of it..

Youth~ Its dope just watch the leg of the Y keep it as simple as the rest of the letterss

[pointman]

Random sketches today during a lecture

[nah!]

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and you made an announcement lol.

added an outline & 3d
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff497/NAHgraff/100_2055.jpg

[KAWT]

i made 2 simples one with bars. maybe my simples look a lot neater and better...

http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd442/kawt1/Capture2.png

http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd442/kawt1/Capture-1.png

crits?

[ian]

more from class lol, similar to last, took your advice and lost the large extensions
http://i.imgur.com/Fj1X8l.jpg

NAH, whats up with that wird thing on the N? dont break your letters and lost the cuts on the N and A, work on your bars, make them consistent, the left of the A has a funky bend in it, the middle of the N is too thin, and the middle of the A and H are also kinda thin. the bottom left of the N is weird too

SPLRT, those are both pretty fucked, your bars tend to get thinner around curves and fatter at their ends and when you take them through other bars, they dont line up. you really need to do some keyboard letters to get their structure down.

MadHeat, thanks for that sketch, ill keep those changes in mind. you're stuffs lookin pretty good, pretty clean, although im not feelin how thin parts of the bars are on that last bit.

ViniVidiVici, the DO on the first one aren't bad, but the NE are pretty fucked. second one is decent at best, the last one the only good letter is the h, also the S in your handie needs work ;)

KAWT, first is alright, the second one is pretty fucked though, especially that A. id like to see the bars for that lol




EDIT: another one i just whipped up, don't think Y's are a good letter for me lol

http://i.imgur.com/i8yw5.png



and all you nigguhs need to get over to the battle thread and vote on the round robin

[KAWT]

ian - the first on has bars but the second one didn't. and on the sketches, the first one is dope with a nice background but you should try some new shit with your style. the second one is good but you randomly changed your name and people usually don't like the letter Y anyway. and your S should have been bigger or just positioned more down

[ian]

ian - the first on has bars but the second one didn't. and on the sketches, the first one is dope with a nice background but you should try some new shit with your style. the second one is good but you randomly changed your name and people usually don't like the letter Y anyway. and your S should have been bigger or just positioned more down

well you should use bars for everything, all the time, period. try to find a good piece where bars were not used, they don't exist, and if they do, the writer has spent years working with bars and has a thorough understanding of how letters are built. you, however, do not have that, and therefore should use bars, ALWAYS. as for mine, i didnt change my name, just did an alternate spelling, tryin out some new letters, gettin practice, thats what its all about. NOYS, NOISE, NOIZ, NOYZ, all pronounced the same, different spellings. as for the S i was sorta trying to alternate bigger and smaller letters, and i tried to make it similar to the o, thanks for the input though, now get back to your simples, you need it

[Dcicfhbimv]

Can't help but think I missed something, Started on this just today. Would crit some people but I can't really see anything on the page right now. Please crit me and I'll owe you one thanks.Oh yeah it's not close to done. plan on coloring it and all that jazz have any ideas I'd appreciate hearing em.

[urks]

you obviously can draw. gotta work on your lettering. lose the goofy arrow extension on your F, and personally i dont like the extensions that flair out on the E.

[Dcicfhbimv]

Yeah I felt like the arrow was pushing it but at least you can read what I wrote. That itself is a step forward in my book. By the way it's nowhere near done. So I'll see what I can do to make it less goofy as far as the "e" goes. What would you do with the "e" if you don't mind me asking cause leaving it as a standard E looked weak.

[urks]

^^ at least make the letters uniform in size... from there you can play with minor extensions but i wouldnt go too nuts, since the rest of your lettering is blocked.

[Skope2]

Dcicfhbimv that character is fucking sick. I quite like the R and H up there, but the F and E need some work. Those extensions coming from the ends should be dropped. If i was you, i'd slant the ends inwards, maybe add an extra bar going downwards (if that makes sense) but youve clearly got some talent anyway so keep it going and youll be fine.

Just the two pieces i uploaded the other day with a bit of colour.
Did the other two earlier, not sure if the pink one has the right colour scheme, or maybe it needs a thicker outline.. cant really decide. Crits would be appreciated anyway.

[ian]

bump for more crits?
http://i.imgur.com/Fj1X8l.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/i8yw5.png

dcicfhbimv-char is dope, letters are pretty bad. do some more simples, keyboard letters, dont go puttin those shitty ones on such a sick char, just makes it look bad. keep doin your thing but i would wait a while before combining your characters and letters because they are on 2 completely different levels.

skope-first one is alright, i dont like the squiggly bit on the I and the N is a little strange looking, second one is pretty good, but some of your bars are a little thicker than others, the E's and 3d on the 3rd are sickkk but all of the other letters need a lot of work, the D kinda looks like a U, the N kinda looks like an M. lose some of the weird bends, and that orange one is sloppy, the right side of the D that blackness needs to come down more

[nah!]

well the middle bar on the first n looks dodgy mabye widen it and drop the first bar and make a flat line on the bottom where the second and third bars connect if you dont understand just say.

on the second one looks alright just remove the addon on the first bar