Blackbooks

[ian]

two more, tried to give em more flow

http://i.imgur.com/YIHmel.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Mo2cJl.jpg

youth-dope style, i like your colorful fills a lot

splrt-better, but still not there, you need to do some more keyboard letters to learn how your letters are made up of different bars then incorporate the same bars into your pieces, a few of your things just dont quite line up right

erkl-those are all pretty good, although i hope the first and last say urkl because if not that is some kinda fucked E

[urks]

two more, tried to give em more flow

http://i.imgur.com/YIHmel.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Mo2cJl.jpg

youth-dope style, i like your colorful fills a lot

splrt-better, but still not there, you need to do some more keyboard letters to learn how your letters are made up of different bars then incorporate the same bars into your pieces, a few of your things just dont quite line up right

erkl-those are all pretty good, although i hope the first and last say urkl because if not that is some kinda fucked E

thanks. ye they got that U in em. yo the first flick is clean but you gotta get rid of the elongated extensions on the N, S, & E. just shorten em up and you'll be good to go.

[KAWT]

i'm pretty toy i know, but i am really rusty because i haven't done graff for a few months. i did a quick piece in class and wanted some advice with it. here's a picture...
http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd442/kawt1/Capture.png

[DarthMario]

any thoughts? don't like the D, messed up the shadow too as I used a bold tip

[KAWT]

thanks bro. i have some crits for yours,
-it's well structured and it's good you didn't go all try hard on it
-dope character next to it
-the fill is really interisting
but you should of done it bigger since it looks like something that would be on a train

[Skope2]

KAWT, that piece is incredibly messy... Take it alot simpler. Drop all of the whack extensions, they mess up your letter structure and make it hard to see whats a letter and what isnt. Your bars are also very uneven, you should work on the proportions a bit more.
I cant stress this enough, those extensions are ruining the piece.

[ViniVidiVici]

Noise - what Urks said, the first one is nice but not the extensions
Kawt - Start over completely and use bars and/or keyboard letters
WMD - Some serious flaws in it, 3D is not correct at all. The letters themselves need work, use bars, and I hate to say it but the karak is not dope as KAWT claims....

[MadHeat]

New to this forum crits welcome

[ViniVidiVici]

I like them, but not the last one, first one is iffy too. I would say the second one is the best but the A is slightly confusing.

New old stuff, basically just tried to fix some of my old doodles.
Tried to fix the D and N bars
19981
Tried to fix the D bars and the O
19979
Tried to make the D bigger to look better
19980

Ds are killing me lately, hard to find good ways to manipulate the bars but still retain the letter.... If that makes sense....

[MadHeat]

Noise~ I like the bottom style a lot better, Keep it simpler. heres a mod I did of it..

Youth~ Its dope just watch the leg of the Y keep it as simple as the rest of the letterss

[pointman]

Random sketches today during a lecture

[nah!]

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and you made an announcement lol.

added an outline & 3d
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff497/NAHgraff/100_2055.jpg

[KAWT]

i made 2 simples one with bars. maybe my simples look a lot neater and better...

http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd442/kawt1/Capture2.png

http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd442/kawt1/Capture-1.png

crits?

[ian]

more from class lol, similar to last, took your advice and lost the large extensions
http://i.imgur.com/Fj1X8l.jpg

NAH, whats up with that wird thing on the N? dont break your letters and lost the cuts on the N and A, work on your bars, make them consistent, the left of the A has a funky bend in it, the middle of the N is too thin, and the middle of the A and H are also kinda thin. the bottom left of the N is weird too

SPLRT, those are both pretty fucked, your bars tend to get thinner around curves and fatter at their ends and when you take them through other bars, they dont line up. you really need to do some keyboard letters to get their structure down.

MadHeat, thanks for that sketch, ill keep those changes in mind. you're stuffs lookin pretty good, pretty clean, although im not feelin how thin parts of the bars are on that last bit.

ViniVidiVici, the DO on the first one aren't bad, but the NE are pretty fucked. second one is decent at best, the last one the only good letter is the h, also the S in your handie needs work ;)

KAWT, first is alright, the second one is pretty fucked though, especially that A. id like to see the bars for that lol




EDIT: another one i just whipped up, don't think Y's are a good letter for me lol

http://i.imgur.com/i8yw5.png



and all you nigguhs need to get over to the battle thread and vote on the round robin

[KAWT]

ian - the first on has bars but the second one didn't. and on the sketches, the first one is dope with a nice background but you should try some new shit with your style. the second one is good but you randomly changed your name and people usually don't like the letter Y anyway. and your S should have been bigger or just positioned more down

[ian]

ian - the first on has bars but the second one didn't. and on the sketches, the first one is dope with a nice background but you should try some new shit with your style. the second one is good but you randomly changed your name and people usually don't like the letter Y anyway. and your S should have been bigger or just positioned more down

well you should use bars for everything, all the time, period. try to find a good piece where bars were not used, they don't exist, and if they do, the writer has spent years working with bars and has a thorough understanding of how letters are built. you, however, do not have that, and therefore should use bars, ALWAYS. as for mine, i didnt change my name, just did an alternate spelling, tryin out some new letters, gettin practice, thats what its all about. NOYS, NOISE, NOIZ, NOYZ, all pronounced the same, different spellings. as for the S i was sorta trying to alternate bigger and smaller letters, and i tried to make it similar to the o, thanks for the input though, now get back to your simples, you need it

[Dcicfhbimv]

Can't help but think I missed something, Started on this just today. Would crit some people but I can't really see anything on the page right now. Please crit me and I'll owe you one thanks.Oh yeah it's not close to done. plan on coloring it and all that jazz have any ideas I'd appreciate hearing em.

[urks]

you obviously can draw. gotta work on your lettering. lose the goofy arrow extension on your F, and personally i dont like the extensions that flair out on the E.

[Dcicfhbimv]

Yeah I felt like the arrow was pushing it but at least you can read what I wrote. That itself is a step forward in my book. By the way it's nowhere near done. So I'll see what I can do to make it less goofy as far as the "e" goes. What would you do with the "e" if you don't mind me asking cause leaving it as a standard E looked weak.

[urks]

^^ at least make the letters uniform in size... from there you can play with minor extensions but i wouldnt go too nuts, since the rest of your lettering is blocked.

[Skope2]

Dcicfhbimv that character is fucking sick. I quite like the R and H up there, but the F and E need some work. Those extensions coming from the ends should be dropped. If i was you, i'd slant the ends inwards, maybe add an extra bar going downwards (if that makes sense) but youve clearly got some talent anyway so keep it going and youll be fine.

Just the two pieces i uploaded the other day with a bit of colour.
Did the other two earlier, not sure if the pink one has the right colour scheme, or maybe it needs a thicker outline.. cant really decide. Crits would be appreciated anyway.

[ian]

bump for more crits?
http://i.imgur.com/Fj1X8l.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/i8yw5.png

dcicfhbimv-char is dope, letters are pretty bad. do some more simples, keyboard letters, dont go puttin those shitty ones on such a sick char, just makes it look bad. keep doin your thing but i would wait a while before combining your characters and letters because they are on 2 completely different levels.

skope-first one is alright, i dont like the squiggly bit on the I and the N is a little strange looking, second one is pretty good, but some of your bars are a little thicker than others, the E's and 3d on the 3rd are sickkk but all of the other letters need a lot of work, the D kinda looks like a U, the N kinda looks like an M. lose some of the weird bends, and that orange one is sloppy, the right side of the D that blackness needs to come down more

[nah!]

well the middle bar on the first n looks dodgy mabye widen it and drop the first bar and make a flat line on the bottom where the second and third bars connect if you dont understand just say.

on the second one looks alright just remove the addon on the first bar

[ViniVidiVici]

Lol I'm giving you the same crits you gave me hahaha but the N and O on the second one are good but the Y S are stuggling, also I agree with nah, take out that extension on the N

[FlatScank]

might not be a "sketch", but I managed to finally pick up some canvases/new paint markers....I hate the "T" on this with a passion.

[Cl4sh]

might not be a "sketch", but I managed to finally pick up some canvases/new paint markers....I hate the "T" on this with a passion.

Last* T looks like a B, Looks like there is an E between the F and the L, first F looks like a backwards B

[thepekins]

NOISE that fisrt pic is mad progression dawg
Denie- you Ds look like Us


http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/914/scan0011hh.jpg (http://img842.imageshack.us/i/scan0011hh.jpg/)
^heres a gay pic so that I could post my props and little ass crit

[ViniVidiVici]

DENIE - I like the first and last one, your Ds are struggling on the 2nd and 3rd, and the rest of the letters have some problems too.
FLAT - I think you might have the entire alphabet in that piece...

[Phat 2]

excellent page so far guys, thanks for being active, constructive, and helpful
you all shall be rewarded with constant battles :)
keep it up like this and there just might be prizes for the winners of future battles. no promises though, just MIGHT be... keep your hopes up
props

[SicK-]

http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt265/gzus1994/d71ee5f5.jpg
Exchange for my nigguh ian

[Dcicfhbimv]

Skope-On the 2nd one try adding a strong outline you know a thicker one. I think it would help your piece consderably. My personally favorite of the 4 is the 3rd the color scheme is pretty sweet.
Ian-the 2nd Noise with the "y' it kinda looks like a 4 and it messes with me.Idk what it is I ust don't like it. Would like to see some of your work done in pen and maybe colored.
Flat-nice colors..what kind of markers do you use?

[ian]

yo sick i hit you in the exchange thread, although i feel like its shit compared to that, ill try another either later tonight or tomorrow

[FlatScank]

@ Dcicfhbimv, I use europe deco's

[Dcicfhbimv]

Are they any different than regular Deco's? Cause I'm not a fan of those. Molotow 127hs are pretty tight though. It's still not done but it feels kinda generic. any ideas? I think its the color scheme that really screwed me.

[Tempo718]

Colors brought it life. Don't know what inspires the characters but I they look anime style.

[ViniVidiVici]

While the colors are all nice and dandy the letters aren't shining really...

[Shofs17]

Unfinished piece..
crits/advice so far?

[Skope2]

Im reading your S's as E's, but i think that because I make my E's that way. I'd drop the extensions on the bottom of the S too.
Overall looks pretty nice though man, that fill is pretty sexy.

[ViniVidiVici]

Yeah drop all unnecessary extensions, and yes I can't tell what your S is either, looks like and E and like a backwards G and is just confusing. I can't really give ya better crits til ya make corrections.

[Skope2]

Tried something new with the top bar, not sure if i like it. What you think? Not finished obviously.

[ChronicKush]

First time postingg hereee.
Shof i like it just a little overboard on the extensions.
you guys have any crits for this?
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[ribcage]

@shof dont put 3d over your letters like where the s connects to the H. Also you should tone the extensions down for now cause all those look wack
@skope yo i guess conceptually that aint bad since you used your bars and your width is consistant (for the most part), but the whole top bar as 1 bar is pretty lame, would you actually paint something like that? anyways doin the top bar as 1 bar makes your N look unrecognizable, the left bar of it looks like an l or I at first glance...
@chronickush scratch all the add ons for now...work on that tag too...and where is smokesville usa

anyways started this 1 today... gonna fix my shit and post it while still in pencil later so yall can crit it...lookin pretty beat up at the moment tho
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g388/ribcage22/0318111857.jpg

[sir.to.you.]

shofs. extensions on the top look dope
skope. that top bar shit iv always liked black and white that shit
kid gave me a word at work what do you think.
and iv been fuckin around with theos i know this is fucked but i love the name for some reason

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5291/5539368650_ee8e70207c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58969092@N06/5539368650/)
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5299/5539372746_2d2266724b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58969092@N06/5539372746/)

[Cl4sh]

Skope- Can't tell what that 4th letters supposed to be.
Reach- I don't like how the bottom left bar of your R gets thinner as it goes up.
Sir- That S looks like a backwards Z, which I know is an S, but when I look at it, it just screams Z

I suck
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[ian]

^that A is decent, but lose that little curve on the bottom right. the rest are no good, can't even really crit them because they're just not good and theres not really anything you can do to them to make them any better besides erasing them and starting over

[FlatScank]

thought I'd try out a lower-case "a"

[pointman]

Okay i think i prefer the capital A if you just tweaked this sketch it could be sick.
http://www.bombingscience.com/graffitiforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=20038&stc=1&d=1300397818
Just lose the L extention and do the T with out the bottom curl going up into the top bar of the T makes it look too much like a B. Also just move it together abit.
Your fill reminds me of a friend i lost he used to do african tribal style stuff with swirls and weird dots was steez, stay up man

[ribcage]

@clash yo thats actually a step in the right direction. you used bars! way to go dude, do that 1 again but make your bars connect smoothly because right now the letters look weird like the bottom left of the C top of the A and middle left of the S. connect your shit up so all the bars make 1 after you erase the pencil ya digg? the extension on the L is kinda pointless at this point, and the bottom bar of the L is lookin pretty bad... and the middle bar of the H needs to be a bar not 2 little dashes like you can do on a throw. Last thing is your bar width, its actually pretty consistent except for the bottom bar of C.... its gettin better breh

[Cl4sh]

Thanks for the crits.
Feeling lazy, So I dropped the H. Scanned crooked, not drawn like that.


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[Skope2]

Flat - I'd definately stick with that capital A, it looks better than the lower case one.
Clash - that all seems a bit out of proportion. The bits coming off of the C and L are too stubby in comparison to the length of those vertical bars.

Just a couple of quick ones

[Cl4sh]

Skope- The O looks like a lowercase E. Also not feeling the top right part of that K.

[ViniVidiVici]

Flat - your letter are not defined, the L looks like a B along with your T, the A just isn't appealing, and the F looks like a D or a T, your sketches have too much confusion in them, your adding extensions without really thinking about them and how they will affect the letters. Go simpler.

Clash - basically what Skope said, your letters are very stubby horizontally speaking.

Skope - I like the S and E in the second one but that is about all I can say, the O does look like an E and the Ks are goofy.

[Skope2]

Cheers for the crits guys. Decided to scrap that style altogether and think up a new one.. Just a sketch right now but would appreciate any thing you can spot that needs tweaking. reads SCOPE.

[Dcicfhbimv]

Scope-Idk exactly what it is but the middle 3 letters don't feel right in the piece the p sorta looks like a backwards 4 and the c idk I just am not vibing with it. and the o is way to thin and by contrast just looks strange. I'm digging the s and the e though. Im unsure about the extension on the back of the e though overall the letter looks pretty nice.
And as far as the red piece from your last post I like it all but the o kinda looks like an e.

[Gatsoi]

http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac9/gatsoi/18-1.jpg

[Cl4sh]

What's up with that little extention thing on your M? Not feelin it.

[ViniVidiVici]

Ya I think ya should've ended it like the N, it would've been some nice symmetry

[Cl4sh]

And what kind of markers are those? They is sexy

[SR_cpc]

been writing for about 4 years still have work to put in until i can get respect but i would love feedback...

part 2

[MoganOne]

4 Years? you should be a lot more up to par then where you are at right now lol...
On the throwie that looks like a paper hat.. Fix the leg of the R or it will look retarded

[FlatScank]

I'll exchange with someone, and btw SR, I see no resemblence between your work, and Earsnots'
Not happy with the A, but Crits please

[Worm*]

http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc500/AZRM/Black%20Book/2011-03-21_14-10-15_959.jpg

I know I fucked with the bars too much and broke them too much/in weird places, and I need to work on keeping the width uniform. Anything else?

[nah!]

the bars a a bit thin

[chen]

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f158/ackooo/Picture018-4.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f158/ackooo/Picture036.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f158/ackooo/Picture028.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f158/ackooo/Picture061-1.jpg

[ViniVidiVici]

Fuck it, I wanna exchange too, someone hook me up with a name or anything, I just wanna try writing something OTHER than my tag for a change.

Chen - Its very abstract, I can tell you have good skill with drawing and shit, but the letters might need a little more defining as some of them are hard to make out.
Flat - Looks at your T and tell me you don't think it looks like a B, same with your L, those extensions are KILLING your pieces, and we have all been trying to tell you this for a while,, I just don't get it....
Sour - ha.... You must be trolling.... Earsnot... ha...

SO WHO WANTS TO EXCHANGE!?

[Rehz]

Chen, I love your style. Very unique. You might need to develop it a lot more before it looks like real graff, but it definately has a style of it's own. Keep writin man.

[Tacit]

aight, im a shit artist, but ive learned a lot of techniques and basically can draw most of the styles that arent super duper complicated. blocky styles, like Flatscanck's , is what im going for, but the problem is i have absloutley no creativity, so my peices always look toy as fuck and really shitty. PLEASE dont bash this, just give me some feedback. tell me what you dislike and hwat to change, but also say one or tow things you think i did well, so that its not too harsh. im a REALLY. REALLY. REALLY. bad artist, it took me months upon months of practice just to get this peice out, and this peice took me over an hour. im proud of it, even though it sucks. would someone do a name exchange with me? just draw my name in a chill, but not super complicated style like Flatscanck has, or another style like that? id really appreciate it, id do your name too, but im sure you dont want the disgrace of what i call my peices to be posted on here,,,, if you want me to ill do yours, too. please help me out, i need a style that i can work towards, and i REALLY want a new style, if you were feling generous, do 3D on my name that you maybe draw for me, because im bad at 3d and need a good base peice to work towards... thanks. comments and crits and stuff are appreciated, but please be nice, and PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do a name exchange for me.
anyway, here's the "piece" the colors suck but i was at school and all i had was one sharpie and a bunch of highlighters.
http://i56.tinypic.com/2ivi88n.jpg

[Get Rekt!]

chen that style is dope. keep workin with that

[Eclectic Boogaloo]

Go easy on the text Tacit.
You need to learn good letter spacing and work on that C. Those T's could work if you straigtened them up.

[ViniVidiVici]

Yeah aight I hook ya up Noise, might be a while but I'll get them done when I can.

Tacit - yo nice thing about graffiti is that it is the simplest art in the fact that you draw letters but is always evolving and can always be improved. So it doesn't matter if ya have art skill or not when starting off since everyone should start at the basics. As for crits I would say spread your letters out, use bars (If you don't know what they are or are confused by how to use them just ask) keep the same bar width for now, and work on 3D, it is off terribly, sorry. Remember to make your vanishing point and follow the letters curve/line. Yours Ts and A are actually decent for being new to graff, they are simple, have bars and look much better when you compare them to the C and I.

I'll hit ya up with an exchange also since I see no reason to not hook ya up with one.

[FlippingChickens]

sr - the throwy with that wack character is decent. the 6th picture is pretty cool,that 's' is fresh

.flat - lol your 'a' is the best letter there .. worm - looks like u made a big peice and then went over it,do simple keyboard letters for the meantime.

chen - On your second picture the tag above your "c' is what your peices should look like,the letters look awkward,but you deff have some style no doubt, that first picture is cool eventho its illegible and on the 2nd picture the character is fresh,color it!


tacit - dude you might get some sence of style from an exchange but you cant just completely bite off of somebody else,i mean you will develope your own style with time ,it will take very long time but you will. Just dont get lost doing excessive coloring because that will take time away from what your really trying to learn,witch are better letters. Do simple clean keyboard letters,watch your bar proportion witch is very important,and dont sketch so big so it wont take up so much time.I remember wanting to do 3d really badly too,but dont worry about that for now,with time you will learn. check out this thread, http://www.bombingscience.com/graffitiforum/showthread.php?2185-New-To-Graffiti-Start-Here! it helped guide me a few years back.

http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz26/flippingchickens/scan0007-2.jpg

http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz26/flippingchickens/scan0003-1.jpg

http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz26/flippingchickens/scan0002-3.jpg

[ViniVidiVici]

I like the first one but make sure not too cramp your letters too much, the overlaps are just a bit too overlapped I feel, and what's up with the D in the second piece? and there is T that looks like a P further down.

[ian]

did this for a beef battle, i can has crits please?

http://i.imgur.com/jt8OB.png

worm* you need to go simpler, those letters are lookin all kinda wack

chen you got a unique style man, keep at it

tacit you gotta do some keyboard letters, that's where everyone has to start --> TACIT, get goin and dont bother coloring or anything until you got some solid letters

tofe i love that hand in the first flick, all your stuff is pretty damn solid, simple but steezy, props dude

[chen]

Thanks!
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f158/ackooo/2011-03-2123_10_40.jpg

[Eclectic Boogaloo]

Ian that E is fresh, i dont like the I's though

[Worm*]

ian what's up with that little chip out of the U? I think it would look better if you just connected the whole thing. I think the I's themselves are fine but the connections make them look like L's.

[ian]

Worm* that U chip looked fine in pencil then when i inked it it turned out lookin gay as hell but it was too late to fix it. i was kinda tryin to mirror the D but then i realized i made it go the wrong way, oh well.

Also Mewn im gonna get you with an exchange too, someone combined all our posts or somethin so idk if you got that but ill try to do it today or tomorrow or somethin

[Tacit]

yo anyone wanna exchange? i know im toy as fuck, but that peice i posted was a new alphabet. i got simps down, scept for C, D, and S. i can do throws pretty good, too. ill hook you up with a new throw or simp of your name if you can gimme a peice of my name? like Flatscank's alphabet, back on page 5368. cool looking, but nice and simple, maybe even a bit simpler than Flatscank's, i dont need it colord or any shit, just drawn up and got 3d on it, because im really bad at 3d and need some guidlines. thanks guys, ill exchange with anyone, illl do a throw or a simp alphabet, you choose. plus itt'l make me feel good that someone would exchange with me, like i dnot suck as bad as i do, lol. i Write Tacit, and if anyone responds to this soon, ill get your throw/simp peice posted on here by the end of tonight, prob within the next hour or two. thanks, also, i got some crits, even though im not great, i hang out with a bunch of pretty good writers, intermediates not pros, and its sitll nice to have some new eyes,

Chen: your shit is pretty good, but draw bigger, if you draw small like that, it makes it a lot harder to paint and get better with peices, start now so you dont hit a big gap in skill when you start painting a lot, also, the characters and shit, i dont reccommend them, work on your alphabet, and drawing bigger, and get awesome at letters and shit and then worry about characters,
FlippingChickens: your peices are pretty nice, but liek i said with chen, draw bigger, or youll hit big problems when you start painting., on your second peice, the blue silver and black one, drop the arrows protruding from the letters, they dont look good, and arrows are basically toy as fuck unless your a legend, at least, thats what ive been told.

[Phat 2]

9 posts deleted... you fockers think you can take your little exchange chit chat to the EXCHANGE THREAD ???

[Tacit]

9 posts deleted... you fockers think you can take your little exchange chit chat to the EXCHANGE THREAD ???
its a lot easier to every now and again exchange on here, because we can see other people'es work.

[FlatScank]

Thought the double extensions on the F and T would come out better, but eh whatever.

[Gatsoi]

9 posts deleted... you fockers think you can take your little exchange chit chat to the EXCHANGE THREAD ???

Are you trying to hurt our feelings? That thread is deaddddd

[[EAK]]

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i kno the 3d is messd up on the E...can i get any crits guys?
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[Phat 2]

its a lot easier to every now and again exchange on here, because we can see other people'es work.

regardless if it's easier or harder, you can see whatever you want here, just dont chat about exchanges, do it in PM, or in the proper place, theh exchange thread, about which this guy had the following to say:

Are you trying to hurt our feelings? That thread is deaddddd
then be a hero and go fucking revive it since exchanges is the hot topic right now !! grr

[ribcage]

@flat looks like you got alright coloring skills breh. Its too bad you used it on that tho... save them colors for somethin with good letters. Unless you got a major stock i guess. The extensions need work, a lot are stupid and dont really go with your shit, especially the one you put on the left side of the middle bar of the F. Bar width is funky on some of your shit too.

[klic]

havn't sketched in ages, a little rusty.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5138/5551716639_294ba5bebd.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/56286697@N08/5551716639/)

eak - id go a bit simpler with the letters, look at the letters on your keyboard. the murk one looks a bit better
flat - digging the fills, looks like you got that down, id focus on your letters a bit more now.

[Phat 2]

go with the blue one its good, but lose the spike coming out of the a, have its right bar go straight, it looks like an r now, the rest is pretty good

[klic]

someon want a exchange? also
@klic nice trowies but your second trowie's K is fuckt up
how so? i dig the idea of it


go with the blue one its good, but lose the spike coming out of the a, have its right bar go straight, it looks like an r now, the rest is pretty good
would kind of disrupt the whole flow though, thanks for the crit regardless

for mewn
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5309/5553060113_624b0ae4c8.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/56286697@N08/5553060113/)

[FACTone]

the leg of the K don't look like the rest of the letters i'm not saying it's bad
just my opinion.

[Gatsoi]

Klic that shit's fresh

http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac9/gatsoi/21.jpg

[Cl4sh]

Went back to this. Did some work. Worth a shit?
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[ChronicKush]

CLASH- The extension on the L doesn't really make sense. We could do an exchange if ya want? Ill write up CLAS. and you write EKAF.

New word...first ive done with it...crits?

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[Cl4sh]

CLASH- The extension on the L doesn't really make sense. We could do an exchange if ya want? Ill write up CLAS. and you write EKAF.


That's just how I write my L's. Like, even just writing notes and shit. It just feels weird without it you know? But sure I'm down. I'll post it in the exchange thread when I'm finished

Edit: Tacit- what the hell are you talking about?

[Phat 2]

seems you guys have bad vision... I'll make this clearer

ANYMORE EXCHANGE SHIT WILL CAUSE ITS AUTHOR TO RECEIVE AN INFRACTION
take it to the fucking exchange thread

all posts were moved there, move with em

[TastyMcNasty]

flat- i say ditch the colours and work on structure a bit more...
eak- the second one isnt awful... i say take that style, even out the bars and the letter size, and it should turn out half decent
chronic- that shit is wack, simple it up
klic- those throws are dope as hell, keep it up
clash- lose some of the extensions on some of the letters (i.e the L)

new shit... FEAR, for the battle. didnt really turn out to great, ill prob redo it... crits please

[pointman]

Random today should have taken a pic before i went to town on the markers haha cant see shit
http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l514/oniclub/IMG_1211.jpg?t=1300933803

[EWL24]

just did this today, crits please
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[Amends_Ego]

Quick sketch for collab. crits?
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1507/phototx.jpg (http://img228.imageshack.us/i/phototx.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

[mindtrix350]

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm203/mindtrix92/Photoon2011-03-24at10172-1.jpg

[ian]

^hahahaha just shows how little you know. hop off flat's dick for a sec cuz those letters are garbage, looks like fuag. the fill is the only decent thing goin in that picture, which by the way doesnt look like a black book to me


anyways, here are 2 exchange pieces i did, lookin for crits on the letters
http://i.imgur.com/3aJkD.png

[ribcage]

^S would have been better without the little extension on the top.

Bottom left part of M would look better it if where the bottom bar meets left leg was flat instead of a point. E looks real cramped in there Middle part of N changes directions to many times ya digg? theres like 3 points in the transition of the middle bar to the right bar... looks weird

[ian]

Flatscank, fuck off

ribcage, i got you, i agree with all of that, i dont like the pointed part on the M either, didnt realize until i posted it. The E i originally had was different but it didnt fit with the rest of the letters so i made a new one that's probably why its cramped and i see what youre sayin about the N. thanks mayn

[FlatScank]

Ian, you make me laugh, first you diss my own shit, and others that have something positive to say about it, and then upload that garbage exchange "piece" sketch, take time with your stuff, cause those sketches must have been done within 5 mins tops.

[Dcicfhbimv]

Guys chill the fuck out. This is a constructive thread not a a place to talk shit about each others shit.
Flat-with all respect this sint the place to post walls.
Ian-I know you've said it a thousand times but maybe you can lay on your opinion a little less thick when it comes to bars. flat doesn't want your advice its no big deal, but I'm more than sure he doesn't like you talking shit about his work either.
O.k I'm done being the fucking group therapist here.
Ian the the front leg of the N on mewn I don't care for it maybe should've kept it straight. And I think ribcage may have a point with the M.
Other than that I did a little work on the piece from earlier Idk what to do with the left side. please don't repost your same crits I'm looking for something helpful and new. thanks guys.

[FlatScank]

it's definately obvious you know how to draw, but maybe you should do a sketch of the word going horizontal, with the "writer" finishing off the last letter?

[Dcicfhbimv]

Im having a bit of difficulty following you do you mean have on the left side the word writer and have it meet up with the R on the wall?

F
WriteR like this?
E
S
H

it shifted the r over it should be under the F and above the E

[ChronicKush]

FLAT- I like your stuff. You overdue it sometimes with extensions which you should work on but i like your fills.
Pekins- Suck a dick.

No markers right now ): guess its just pencil sketches for me. and CONSTRUCTIVE crits for this exchange?
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[FACTone]

just some quick sketches but i know the T is ugly
@Dcicfhbimv i cant really give crits on your characters cus i'm not good at them. I hope to see more of them
also the letters are pretty basic but not really feeling them (no hate) but fill is great
also he means to write horizontal it's better to read and better to flow

[ian]

I'm not tryin to be a dick or anything but seriously no one listens and this thread just fills with garbage that does not progress. Flat every single piece you post is damn near identical, and your letters are bad. Your bars are all over the place with thickness and you have more extensions than bars that actually make up your letters. You people can do whatever kinda fancy fills you want but if your letters suck then it's still gonna look shitty.

Dcic your characters and coloring and stuff are sick but you also need much work on your letters. I've been drawing for years and taken tons of art classes, but that really doesnt help anything when it comes to graffiti. Drawing letters is not the same as drawing people or anything else. Believe me when I started on here I did not want to do keyboard letters and simples and shit, i wanted to do badass wildstyles and burners and shit but you can't start out with that. You have to do keyboard letters, a lot. you should be able to do any letter on command without a keyboard in front of you with consistent thickness all around and no errors in construction. Once you get that down, you start to understand which bars make up letters and where they need to go and where you can bend them and tweak them to change the letter up without destroying the structure. Once you start doing that you can start adding SOME extensions and youll start to understand where they will go to complement the letter and not make it look like anything else. Once you get to that point, you can start messing around with "style" and develop your own. This is not a short process though and you can't rush it. It's not fun at first, but once you get good itll be worth it IMO.

Also as far as progression goes, first thing you should have is a solid tag. That's where graffiti started and thats where you should to. *cough* flat *cough*

anyways, fact that third flick is the best of those, the first two the extension on the F is real weird and the T is bad like you said. The C is also weird, the extensions are basically bigger than the letter.

ChronicKush that doesnt look bad at all, but dont be dissin tasty because he IS better than you. The C and S are pretty good, the break above the A is gay, and some of your bars are slightly off in thickness

Flat go simpler thats all i have to say

[ChronicKush]

Thanks for the constructive crits ian. I kno the whole rant was for flat lol. and i wasnt tryin to say i was better than tasty just he strait said my piece was shit and it set me off. but yeahh i understand the whole simples and keyboard letters thing. Idk if u kno what puregraffiti is but i was on their forum for about 2 yearss. i have a whole lot of work to do and thats why im on here to get crits and get better.

anyways i just sketched this up....prolly sucks but crits anyways?
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[pointman]

Just my mates second name i know it looks shit and was a mess around on lettering but i like the way my char flows with the piece might use it on my SPLRT ones

http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l514/oniclub/IMG_1214-1.jpg?t=1301011615

[ribcage]

hmmm does the character flow with the piece? Kinda looks like its just next too the piece... not liquidy enough to be spit

[pointman]

I was thinking of getting some transparent paint and doing like green gas like a burp or something surrounding a piece from its mouth

[SicK-]

Yo flat dont listen to IAN your doing your shit and i think your peices are hot plus you paint which over 90% of the people on here dont do. I do think you should try some new shit every once in a while though.

Tryin to fux with some new letters on this one. I know the M and R are to small
http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt265/gzus1994/f0b8ba9e.jpg

[Dcicfhbimv]

Man I feel you but I honestly have been trying to make bars I'm learning as I go. But you've got give me some slack I'm not gonna master it in 5 or 10 tries thats for sure. And as far as flat goes hes doing his own thing.



I'm not tryin to be a dick or anything but seriously no one listens and this thread just fills with garbage that does not progress. Flat every single piece you post is damn near identical, and your letters are bad. Your bars are all over the place with thickness and you have more extensions than bars that actually make up your letters. You people can do whatever kinda fancy fills you want but if your letters suck then it's still gonna look shitty.

Dcic your characters and coloring and stuff are sick but you also need much work on your letters. I've been drawing for years and taken tons of art classes, but that really doesnt help anything when it comes to graffiti. Drawing letters is not the same as drawing people or anything else. Believe me when I started on here I did not want to do keyboard letters and simples and shit, i wanted to do badass wildstyles and burners and shit but you can't start out with that. You have to do keyboard letters, a lot. you should be able to do any letter on command without a keyboard in front of you with consistent thickness all around and no errors in construction. Once you get that down, you start to understand which bars make up letters and where they need to go and where you can bend them and tweak them to change the letter up without destroying the structure. Once you start doing that you can start adding SOME extensions and youll start to understand where they will go to complement the letter and not make it look like anything else. Once you get to that point, you can start messing around with "style" and develop your own. This is not a short process though and you can't rush it. It's not fun at first, but once you get good itll be worth it IMO.

Also as far as progression goes, first thing you should have is a solid tag. That's where graffiti started and thats where you should to. *cough* flat *cough*

anyways, fact that third flick is the best of those, the first two the extension on the F is real weird and the T is bad like you said. The C is also weird, the extensions are basically bigger than the letter.

ChronicKush that doesnt look bad at all, but dont be dissin tasty because he IS better than you. The C and S are pretty good, the break above the A is gay, and some of your bars are slightly off in thickness

Flat go simpler thats all i have to say

[klic]

Klic that shit's fresh
thanks man, good flow on yours.


the leg of the K don't look like the rest of the letters i'm not saying it's bad
just my opinion.
alright cool, i getcha.

not really feeling this, thought id get some feedback.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5027/5557649086_1afc633f33.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/56286697@N08/5557649086/)

dcic - try to incorporate your letters into the forefront a bit more, don't really stand out.
fact - the FA's looking pretty clean. id lose the attachment on the bottom of your C, and just make the rest a bit bigger. the top of your t's too big, not feeling the extensions on your T either.
werm - diggin it, dopest ish on this page
ekaf - simple it up man, extensions aren't looking that great. im digging the clas simp though
soar - fear piece is looking ill, easily the best thing you posted. your hands need a lot of work, start simple with them again. throws aren't bad, look fairly generic though.
flat and ian - neither of you are very good. its new members like you guys that ruined the toy forum. back 2 or 3 years ago it was all constructive criticism, everyone trying to help everyone else improve. just chill, its supposed to be fun.

[ribcage]

S is slackin on this 1 breh, idk if it exactly fits or not but it looks like you messed up on it. I dig the rest tho, tryina exchange? if so hit me with a pm. Oh and your D looks like an O in this 1

[Tempo718]

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hav'nt drawn in a few weeks been busy

[ChronicKush]

Bumpp. :p
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[SicK-]

http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt265/gzus1994/f0b8ba9e.jpg
Bumpin this ish.

Yo klic trying to exchange?

[hud]

http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/6084/img0208jg.jpg http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/6385/img0201ma.jpg cud u plz critize and critique my drawing

[Dcicfhbimv]

Heads up hud Most markers can layer. Layering is when you use the same marker over a spot you already filled with that color earlier it produces a darker version of that color. More accurately it saturates the paper more thus coming out darker. You can use this technique to shade and add variety to your work. Rather than using a different green which no offense looks pretty bad. Hope this helps. Oh and try thicker outlines they work wonders.
Tempo-Your work is getting better but I can't say Im a fan of all the strange things your putting on your work " the boners that seem to sprout of your letters the weird looking k's sprinkled everywhere and the drips. Your work should be self sufficient "the letters themselves should be awesome alone". And even though you are improving right now you have a tiny cake coated in gobs of crap icing.
Krush- I like it overall does it read EKAF or EKBF? cause if it reads EKAF I'd recommend straightening out the 2nd leg on the A and the extension from the A looks wonky. other than that I like it.
Sick-not digging the leg on the R kinda wished it looked a bit more clean but I get the jist of it.

[ribcage]

Heads up hud Most markers can layer. More accurately it saturates the paper more thus coming out darker. shoul

yes, some people on here aint realize the resaon why theyre coloring comes out blotchy and streaky. Im sure there is a coloring tutorial around, in fact ima put one in here that I saw a while back that inspired me to be a better color-er.

Basically you put a first quick layer of color down, then after it dries you color it again with the same color, and repeat until streaks are gone and its all one solid color... this applies when using markers. prsimas, trias, copics, etc.

theres like 7 or 8 parts of her coloring it all skip the first to minutes of this one to skip some boring stuff if u'd like but she explains different helpful and useful techniques throughout the vids. and those trias are hella dope

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB_X6NzsVzc

plus a little somethin im workin on.... not quite what i want yet, but i like the start
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g388/ribcage22/0326110021.jpg

[FlatScank]

meh, bored at work.

[klic]

flat - the F and A are ill. the extension on the T is too much
sara - go simpler, those extensions look pretty ridiculous

[ribcage]

@flat everything you post up in here is the same... and its not very good. You put the same long ass extension on every letter, and yeah you can make your letters distinct with color but color doesnt make your letters better. Your L looks like a U. the extension on the left bar of theA +the left bar of the A looks like a U and your T looks like a U/G.

@elsedee if your not going to go simple and leave out extensions, at least make your extension transitions smooth...cause that looks pretty wack, hopefully the girl doesnt look at a lot of graffiti, cause if she doesnt you might get your dick wet, but if she does....its bad lol
And im glad you liked the video(s), shes got bars at coloring Lol

for zee battle...didnt get to finish coloring when i entered it so the one in there isnt the same
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g388/ribcage22/0326111520.jpg

[seywhat]

Go Vote for the TFRRT MUHFUCKAHS!!

[elesdee]

word i'm detained for the weekend so ill give a simple a shot

i like the spazr, good proportions. personally not feeling the swirls at the bottoms of the s and z

[sylph]

i messed up the blue halo'd S for sure. idk about the rest. you guys tell me.

[aserdoe]

tell me what you guys think

[thepekins]

aser is a really played out name. Ive seen people writing acer, aser, asir, and aesir. The throw is aight. The cracks on JUSTIN look wack imo. The J looks like a U. The left part of the T could be longer. The J and N are the weakest letters imo. Calligraphy-ish is pretty cool.

[TastyMcNasty]

tempo- i actually like that, stick with that style
chronic- i wasnt calllin you out or anything, but you do need to accept that some people will some people will just shit on you and/or your graff... but anyways on to the crits, you need to lose all the extensions and connections or what not (for now) until you get better overall letter structure... hope that helps a bit
hud- clearly you understand bars and 3D (more or less) but that still needs to be simpled up a bit more
flat- even out the bar width a bit more and that ish will be dope...
ribcage- only thing im not feelin about that is the P (just because it doesnt really go with the rest of it) but other than that its pre clean
sylph- go simpler, but on another note those hands are pre dope..
aserdoe- the fill on the forst one is pre dope, i cant really see your letters too clearly, and your background is hurting... the second one is actually dope as hell stick with that style... and i can see that your throws are hurting pre badly...

new ish for the battle... crits?

[weedeater]

im not feeling the bottom bar of the E or the extension coming off the R. I also dont really like the background. I really like your style though, and your handstyles or dope, specifically the D in Dark.

[FlatScank]

If it's one thing I've learned from the graf scene here in Germany/Europe, it's that you can almost about throw up anything. As long as it's clean, has alot of colour, and decent shines, you can make anything look good.
trying out heart bottoms

[Rezume_or_die]

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[daisy]

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[ian]

exchange piece

http://i.imgur.com/riBIi.png

[Cl4sh]

Just toying around with that extention on the A. Any crits?

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Got your exchange Ekaf. My bad its been so long. Been out of town.

[TastyMcNasty]

daisy- thats pre clean... nice and simple, keep that up
ian- not bad, all i can say is that you need to even out the bars in the letters a bit and the fill needs a bit of work
clash- even out the size of your letters and their individual bars, letter consistancy i really laking in that flick// that extension coming off the A is not suited for that style of letters, so i think drop it... and your L, S and H need alot off work... hope that helps

[ribcage]

cmon clash you truly think your ready for extensions that complicated? I understand wanting to not do the same ol shit and add stuff on, but you difinetly aint ready yet. The C still needs work proportionately, and your C is the top half of your S, which is a bad thing cause the C is ugly lol. The left bars of your A and L are the only two that are consistent in width. The only thing that is good about it is its def progressed since the first sketch of that 1 so keep at it

[Dcicfhbimv]

Just messing around a little yeah I know no bars and what not. This is just for fun so yeah. Mostly toying with fills and such

[FlatScank]

I think thats cool looking, but the structure is non-existent.

[Dcicfhbimv]

thanks and yeah. I wasn't going for structural letters all that much just a liquid-ish style. Figured I'd deserved a break from trying out all the stuff I've been advised for awhile.It lets me see if what they say has made any impact on my work since I've tried implicating it. And I think it's safe to say I'm gonna go back to working on the basics some more. but I'm happy to put some effort into coloring outlining shading and such.

Oh and Cl4sh- the end on the A looks real whack because when other people use it it retains a uniform width on the sides yours has two thinner lines sticking out the side of the main shaft which leaves it looking wonky. Also the other letters could use some help especially the H and the L the S could use a little tweak and manage alright but the H looks plain and the l is arc'd and it looks unnatural.Oh and bear in mind all of the negative space of your piece comes from wither the top or from the holes in your letters. Not trying to beat you up man all of us on this thread have improvements to be made those are just the ones of yours I see.

[ribcage]

@ian only thing in that simp that looks weak is the Y

@Dcicfh yo that looks terrible....and imo a waste of colors...and the coloring aint that good. If you gonna go for liquidy/abstract look in the future, go big or go home. either make it readable or unreadable intentionally, or don't even do letters... cause making skinny ass bars with swirlies coming out of it is weak sauce

heres an abstract i wasted my colors on a while back, started out making the first letter an S but then i made an outlining mistake and said fuck letters. Nobody produces a winner everytime...and everything doesn't have to be colored
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g388/ribcage22/0206111707.jpg

[pointman]

A bit of everything

[ian]

some new ish for the battle. reads FEAR. wish i would have made the R a bit to the left and i missed a tiny bit of 3d on the bottom of the middle bar of the F (i added it after the pic was taken)but oh well. Little things bother me

http://i.imgur.com/hV5tz.png

pointman you really do love that char don't you. letters still need a lot of work, not simple enough.

dcic im not gonna copy everything everyone else said but you gotta have structure to have a good piece.

Clash you're improving, but its stil messy, clean things up and lose that weird little bit on top of the C and S. Make sure your bars are consistent throughout.

[SicK-]

Ian that is horrible. foreal if your gonna use arrows... just dont use arrows until you actualy have structure down

[Phat 2]

u need more arrows^

and dcimbafghvhbbimdicqwerty, does that say betty? the only good thing about it is the color scheme, blue pink and purple always go good together eh?

[Female]

@ian i can only find the F and R

[Tempo718]

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this came out dumb as hell right?

[ian]

@ian i can only find the F and R

http://i.imgur.com/m1eyA.png

[Dcicfhbimv]

u need more arrows^

and dcimbafghvhbbimdicqwerty, does that say betty? the only good thing about it is the color scheme, blue pink and purple always go good together eh?

It reads Beauty

[Crux206]

First try at a straight letter style:

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[kweezy]

im new at this . so they may not be the greatest. but give me some advice. (:

[weedeater]

crux, those arent straight letters

[Norfsuthr]

ian it has bars and structure, but youre over doin it with the arrows. nice 3d though.
pointman-get more structure in that S, keep at it.
crux that r dont fit, and do actual straights for a minute

just havin fun here but I thought it turned out ok. first attempt at a fill thats not just a solid color, so go easy on that shit.
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/217/image97a.jpg (http://img340.imageshack.us/i/image97a.jpg/)

[ribcage]

the 3 is dope, left bar of the D lookin a little funky, and the right leg of the R should be longer... dope tho

[Bazer]

some of you are fuckin retarded. on here tryna figure out graffiti like there was a formula to it.

[Kocka]

ian.. thats not what he meant.. if its an A, the horizontal bar has to connect to the crooked bars, otherwise it just not an A. the E and A dont necessarily need to connect, you know..

[Rezume_or_die]

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i need to color them but im real lazy recently

[ian]

3rd i like that a lot, including the fill. keep it up ma man

rezume those are sick dude, color em!

decorating the black book a bit:

http://i.imgur.com/Yjvp5.png

[SafeWay]

if i were going to give crits i would say everyone needs to work on their letters

SENSE
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/198967_10150196398977938_554967937_8336722_7389910 _n.jpg

[TastyMcNasty]

i wont lie, i like it... i jus think it needs to be cleaned up a bit, then itll be bangin

[ian]

Safe tbh, those "S's" look like nothing but fog or smoke or something, they don't look anything like the letter S . The E's look off without a left bar too, the N is aight but that's about it

http://i.imgur.com/NUZl5.png

[ChronicKush]

Ian - im lovin that throw on you're blackbook and the simple is pretty nice too. Your newest piece is good, but the O kinda looks like a U or a D. And the top left of your end should be connected imo.

Heres my newest thing im working on...just an E right now...
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[SafeWay]

chyeah! right, and monkeys might fly outa my butt. ian, i'd like to battle you hahaha, i got beef lol, i dislike you giving me tips on my letters when you post the weakest letters right after. would you be down for a sketch battle? you could pick the word brotha

[kweezy]

Bump?
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[ViniVidiVici]

Troll for the win

But Safe your letters are weaksauce man, no structure no nothing, It's abstract at best, not much else to say about it.

Noise - seems like you rushed it, take your time.
Kush - I like it but the little shading at the top doesn't help it.
Kweezy - Your letters need a little more work, the way your end bars is just weird sometimes.
Rezume - Those are dope, ink em up.

["FrY"]

Heres some keyboard letters... pretty basic. Extremely new to graffiti, and got in trouble for not postin throwies, so, i guess imma be chillin here for a while ha
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CC? Which one did you like best?

[ribcage]

But Safe your letters are weaksauce man, no structure no nothing, It's abstract at best, not much else to say about it.


looks like a ballpoint freestyle to me, and look harder cause the letters are definetly there...

[ian]

FRY do them bigger and dont even bother coloring them yet. use bars too

["FrY"]

Mkay... what do you mean by bars?

[sylph]

safeway.. it kinda took me awhile to read that. you're S? first one looked like an A or a J. and the last looks like a D but was easier to figure out as an S for awhile.
idk.. i'm new to writing so maybe it's just me. :)

[SafeWay]

im appreciating all this feedback. i'll try n clean it up.

[jiwhanese]

First attempt at anything beyond basic block.
advice???
yea i dont like the color or how the S or E are infront of everything else either.
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[ViniVidiVici]

You overlap letter weird so you can barely see some of them, the T is barely visible and half of the first E is covered up.

[ChronicKush]

*update*
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[centrysam]

few flicks

[jiwhanese]

You overlap letter weird so you can barely see some of them, the T is barely visible and half of the first E is covered up.

Yea noticed that. Prob would have done the 3d so the s and e dont look like they are infront of everything else.

[Phat 2]

*update*
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no more updates please, you don't need crits on every letter you do... it's a sketch, not the sistine chapel's ceiling
stop raiding the thread and we'll crit you on it once you post the whole thing
kthx

[aserdoe]

what do you think

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[extinct]

Humr yours throws are hot but you handstyle is sooooooooooo weak

[aserdoe]

tell me what you think


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[ribcage]

^dont like the one a few posts up. the 1st 1 on this post is tight though letter wise, not diggin the colors tho

[KAWT]

hey guys. i'm working on a memorial piece for a bloke my friends all knew. it's gonna be a simple piece and me and my mate will be painting it, need some crits for improving.

http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd442/kawt1/piece.png

[Phat 2]

just get all the bars to be the same width, maybe flare the bottoms of the j and c, the legs or top of the a, and some bars on the k, I'm not sure you're ready to be messing with bar flares yet tho, so id say just fix your bars' widths
and get all your shadows right. you got some mistakes here and there.
I hope you got decent can control to pull some clean lines off.
you dont need 2 dudes to paint this... oh and no need for a heart, yeah ?

[KAWT]

yeah i understand. i'll stop the line flares and take off the heart, i only did it because another of my mates did a piece for jack with hearts. and, how do i "flare the bottoms of the j and c, the legs or top of the a, and some bars on the k"? thanks

[mindtrix350]

@kawt- I like how simple it is. Truthfully, I think the heart is fine, especially considering the circumstances. Just my opinion, though.

Scaling of each letter is off. I have to make the "W" bigger and level out the whole thing in general.
Just an idea. Not sure if it's simple enough or what.
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm203/mindtrix92/Photoon2011-04-02at2204.jpg

[KAWT]

@mindtrix350 thanks, i might keep it, i dunno. but for your piece i think i get ya drift with the small and large bars, pretty fresh. but the proportion kinda ruins this simple piece, work on it and please post back :)

[mindtrix350]

Yeah, I'll keep working with that one.
Another idea being thrown around.
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm203/mindtrix92/Photoon2011-04-03at03103-1.jpg

[KAWT]

not sure what i can crit on that but maybe you can crit on this. i have shown the bars in this one. is it better or worse?

http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd442/kawt1/piece2.png

[mindtrix350]

I think the "c" either thins out too much or is pushed behind the "A" too much.

[.Cuore]

@KAWT: Even the bars on the first one, 2nd one looks really good.
@mindtrix: love the first one, like the second one too just maybe bend the B's stem a bit back to eliminate the space between it and the L.

[FlatScank]

@ Jack, you should be bring the C out more from your A
@ Wilbur, those sketchs are good, but you should try to tweak up the letters abit, try out somethin' wild.

Prodding with some locals this coming saturday, need some crits on this, got lazy on the bricks.

[pointman]

Messing around with different names GLUMS, DERMS.

FLAT- isn't that the same as all you're other sketches but with more extensions? looks like it says flab because of the T

[ribcage]

@fuag sweet fuag yet again the same piece eh?

@point yo finally you change your name lol splrt was a bad one bro, i like thees glums better. on first one the middle right part of the G looks off, i think you know what i mean yes?

[fruitfulanomie]

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i like your flicks flat, i dont have many crits cuz i'd ramble or just throw people off ya know.

but for Jack, like everyone else said the c is covered by the a a bit too much
i do that alot too...

[OZON]

208102081120812

i like your flicks flat, i dont have many crits cuz i'd ramble or just throw people off ya know.

but for Jack, like everyone else said the c is covered by the a a bit too much
i do that alot too...
CME is a crew in kamloops are you from there??

[Norfsuthr]

http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/8453/image102.jpg (http://img546.imageshack.us/i/image102.jpg/)
exchange for my boy jenc. freestyled it so it definitely couldve been better but whatever.

[centrysam]

could i get some crits pllzz


http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5098/5586391585_fda7dff47a.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/60940571@N06/5586391585/)blueojhumr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/60940571@N06/5586391585/) by grinder13 (http://www.flickr.com/people/60940571@N06/), on Flickr
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5173/5582816701_18efbdf3d4.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/60940571@N06/5582816701/)humor (http://www.flickr.com/photos/60940571@N06/5582816701/) by grinder13 (http://www.flickr.com/people/60940571@N06/), on Flickr

[fruitfulanomie]

@ Ozon: na that isn't a graff crew they are a group of peeps who promote parties at clubs mostly djayin and graphic design not graff related

[extinct]

northsuthr... your style is like alot of peoples up in the 604 fresh...
humr.. develop a handstyle before you piece, but your pieces do have potential
anomi same thing... work on your handstyle... keep working on your straight letters though

[FlatScank]

[QUOTE=ribcage;1711034]@fuag sweet fuag yet again the same piece eh?

I don't see Fuag in this.

[ian]

little battle with safeway, i hate my N in this:

http://i.imgur.com/iFdFF.png



flat L looks better, T is still pretty weird looking

centry those look pretty sweet, not loving the H in the 2nd one, but the fill is definately on point and your letters arent bad

norf, fill is sweet, super clean sketch, not a huge fan of the NC connection, makes it look like a weird M, and the top bar of the E should be connected to the left bar, it looks like a lowercase T to me. the whole thing kinda looks like YtM. props for the steez tho

fruitful the letters need a lot of work, you gotta use bars and i would lose the extensions and such for now

[thepekins]

JENC piece is lookin dope!

[nah!]

http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff497/NAHgraff/100_2111.jpg
the 3d on ONE is off but ill fix that later

[Delyte]

my first piece...crits please


fruitfulanomie - work on your letter structure, i like the colors scheme and background you did though

flat - I really like that one but i would take out the extension from the L

[Get Rekt!]

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[mindtrix350]

Ian- That "N" is all wonky with all the different bar sizes, thicken it out to fit in with the other letters. I can't say that I'm feeling the middle bar for the "A" either and it seems to be tilted a bit too much into the "R".

Nah- I like it. The middle bar of the A seems a bit too slanted and the little add-on on top isn't really needed. You already touched on the 3D for "one", so that's all I really have to say.

Delyte- I think you should beef up your letters more, keep them the same size and simplify them.

Scam- Nice one man, I like it. I think it would look better if the right bar of the "M" was the same thickness as the others, but that's just me.

Need markers so I can make cleaner lines and all that jazz.
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm203/mindtrix92/Photoon2011-04-04at1859.jpg

[Phat 2]

the lbur part is great. but you need to watch your bar widths in the w and i. u got ok strcucture for straights. i think it would look better if your 2 middle bars in the w only peaked at half its height

[mindtrix350]

Yeah, I wasn't feeling the bars that much either. I know the middle of the "W" is wonky and I think that my "I" should be thicker. Time to fix 'er up, thanks man.

[centrysam]

lovin that red an blue SCAM thing ... simple and effective



http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5221/5590125749_a0caf9686a.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/60940571@N06/5590125749/)
havinfun (http://www.flickr.com/photos/60940571@N06/5590125749/) by grinder13 (http://www.flickr.com/people/60940571@N06/), on Flickr

[ribcage]

I don't see Fuag in this.

Hahahahaha true that, this 1 the L kinda look like a z to me tho...

[elesdee]

fry use only bars(rectangles) to make up this exact letter structure: FRY
And don't use multiple strokes for one line even if its sloppy, practice for a steady hand.
fill up pads of paper with that until your wrist dislocates

[mindtrix350]

Humr- I like it for the most part, I'm not too sure about the left leg of the "M", though.

Messed up on the "B" and I think I put the "I" too far behind the "W".
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm203/mindtrix92/Photoon2011-04-04at2210.jpg

[ian]

What kind of marker are you using for your outline? looks real clean

[mindtrix350]

Really? Aha, I'm just using a fine tip Sharpie. I actually wanted to get a different, thicker marker. It's the only marker I have left until I cop some more.

[ribcage]

^yo the trick to line cleanliness is thickening. You can use a microtip or a fine tip or even a regular pen and then after you draw a line, you draw the same line next to it then fill in the space between the two lines, all it is is making the line thicker. It helps in overall appearance, makes your lines look straight if you got a shaky hand, and makes it so you can fix some outlining errors if you make any

yeahp, its pretty common sense. unless you can draw free hand foot long straight lines and perfect circles than line thickening is the way to do it. But if your gonna thicken ines you gotta make sure the thickness is consistent or else it will look bad

you never have tried using a micro tip to outline? It takes more time, but it will prolly help you... It don't mean stop tryin to freehand ish without thickening tho cause if you can get that down it will help when you have stezy pens to use

woah holy shit almost half a page with no pics... guess i have to cut into the bag of old gems... I dont think i posted this 1 before... but uh its one of those ones where i came back to it a couple days later after doin the first 2 letters...R dont really fit in it... and the H is all kinds of fucked, especially the bottom left O.o .....but uh crit if you please
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g388/ribcage22/0315111950.jpg

[lopid2]

20885 TIPS? im a toy:)

[Delyte]

lopid2 - work on your letter structure, use bars to create the letters and stick with straight letters for now. Once you are good at that then you can start bending the bars.

[crimateNC]

crits to all... bars are your best friend :]
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/36080_485318688474_676038474_6904866_5083034_n.jpg
did this for a home girl recently says ELEENA, crits?
http://hphotos-ash4.fbcdn.net/209280_10150205753798475_676038474_8447021_2773752 _o.jpg
did this for a friend... the I sucks I know but I had only a pen lol and didnt wanna redo it.. I'm lazy crits?

[mindtrix350]

The first one looks like it has no structure at all.
I'm not sure what the second one says and I'm not too fond of how the style was executed. Start simple.

[crimateNC]

The first one looks like it has no structure at all.
I'm not sure what the second one says and I'm not too fond of how the style was executed. Start simple.
both are with the same kind of brush-esqe style (what I call it haha) but def not my most used way of drawing graff... I'll post some more when I draw newwer ones, thanks for the crits

EDIT: the second one says NEIN which is No in german.. dunno if I had the [e] and [i] in the grammatically correct position tho... and yeah the [i] is effing horrible in that one

[centrysam]

@crimateNC .... like the handies .. lot bettr then mine haha ... but on the top one i would lose the arrows maby cap the bars better or try an work out some of the points .... just my opinion

[Gatsoi]

Crits?
http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac9/gatsoi/2232cc3d.jpg

[Tempo718]

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yo wat kind a 3d or background shall i do 2 this?????????

[centrysam]

@Gatsoi
i like it ... fill an 3d to come i guess

new one... crits plz

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5149/5593972492_5b4115bc6f.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/60940571@N06/5593972492/)
Snapshot_20110405 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/60940571@N06/5593972492/) by grinder13 (http://www.flickr.com/people/60940571@N06/), on Flickr

[ChronicKush]

Gatsoi- looks nice bro, add some 3d and a fill.

Did this one for Ian, was bored in my job training class just messin aroundd. lol
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[kweezy]

crits, please and thank you. (: i know its not the best.. the bars are different sizes.

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[Shroomsh]

http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx172/spuk3/Pride.jpg

sketch for a mates shed

http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx172/spuk3/AnimePbkBurner.jpg

little sister wanted me to include manga in a piece

http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx172/spuk3/200087_1930457426700_1400165126_32286934_8248951_n .jpg

the pride piece on a mates shed

[Gatsoi]

[QUOTE=crimateNC;1711475]crits to all... bars are your best friend :]
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/36080_485318688474_676038474_6904866_5083034_n.jpg

Clearly bars aren't your friend

[Gatsoi]

http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac9/gatsoi/2232cc3d.jpg
http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac9/gatsoi/01.jpg
Not feelin this.
Anyone tryna exchange throws?

[ian]

yo mewn if you made the M the same as the W upside down and lost the ER that would be sick

[Delyte]

Yo Shroomsh I really like your style, can't give you much advice since im not even close to that good but i really like your stuff

any one got any crits for me??20995

[nah!]

http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff497/NAHgraff/100_2120.jpg

[webs508]

http://cellblock.com/gallery/PvAZNARrgB_OYNlfAcyK-1-1300443815000.jpg
Any crits?

http://cellblock.com/gallery/neLbVXzVPxJBTccIsMwV-1-1300118831000.jpg

http://cellblock.com/gallery/xpMWLPAnCcTpAhYgZNyD-2-1300116287000.jpg

http://cellblock.com/gallery/xqzpHLgppaDIEisjSiUS-1-1302129685000.jpg

[Delyte]

bump

any one got any crits for me??20995

[centrysam]

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5223/5596142047_35d545d2a3.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/60940571@N06/5596142047/)
Snapshot_20110406 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/60940571@N06/5596142047/) by grinder13 (http://www.flickr.com/people/60940571@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5177/5596715860_e10574dbb2.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/60940571@N06/5596715860/)
Snapshot_20110405_4 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/60940571@N06/5596715860/) by grinder13 (http://www.flickr.com/people/60940571@N06/), on Flickr

[ribcage]

^needs more arrows on the 1st 1

[crimateNC]

@webs - try to get some consistancy in the bars, and more uniform letter structure, otherwise I believe you're on the right track !
@delyte - simplify! all the extra addition on the lettering is just gaudy and draws away from the piece as a whole... notice centrysam and how he rarely colors his pieces, he's focusing on lettering which is an essential to good graff, no matter how sick your coloring is you can't augment lack of motivation towards lettering... hell I get bored sometimes halfway thru pieces just stick at it
@centry - I really like your bombs/throwies... I'm not too good at them myself so yeah I can't give much crits in that department.. as for the piece worry less about extensions and focus on lettering imho. not that you have bad lettering its just they could flow more >.<

but still at least everyone's making a stride forward and not giving up

[webs508]

thanks crimate

[crimateNC]

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/205667_10150215903278475_676038474_8496765_7125777 _n.jpg
suppsoed to be a caricature of myself... crits? besides the bulbous nose hahaha

[webs508]

The secret to charecters is...Shadow, when u make bold lines its hard to blend features, i know making hard lines is tempting but the less lines u make the better its gonna look!

[Sketchamus]

Hi, I'm Sketch, here's some of my blackbook pieces from over the years;

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/12641_198776491203_746771203_3933812_3192359_n.jpg

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/12641_198776511203_746771203_3933815_6097744_n.jpg

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/29999_420703086203_746771203_5288657_6808142_n.jpg

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-ash1/v133/190/112/746771203/n746771203_299916_3789.jpg

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-ash1/v124/190/112/746771203/n746771203_305246_9430.jpg

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-ash1/v124/190/112/746771203/n746771203_305247_9671.jpg

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-ash1/v124/190/112/746771203/n746771203_305252_977.jpg

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v124/190/112/746771203/n746771203_305254_1551.jpg

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v124/190/112/746771203/n746771203_305261_3379.jpg

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-ash1/v124/190/112/746771203/n746771203_305266_4672.jpg

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-ash1/v124/190/112/746771203/n746771203_307237_3026.jpg

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-ash1/v124/190/112/746771203/n746771203_307241_4180.jpg

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-ash1/v124/190/112/746771203/n746771203_307242_4458.jpg

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-ash1/v124/190/112/746771203/n746771203_307243_4686.jpg

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-ash1/v296/190/112/746771203/n746771203_1184030_1609.jpg

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/188418_10150177364071204_746771203_8333644_6721462 _n.jpg

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/198213_10150207692876204_746771203_8374234_2270312 _n.jpg

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/208040_10150210733576204_746771203_8404169_7987559 _n.jpg

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/208040_10150210733581204_746771203_8404170_264886_ n.jpg

[TastyMcNasty]

sketchamus- some of your characs are dope as hell, but from what i saw most of your letters were lacking structure, even on that last "ramoe" one, the letters (even though they have structure) were lacking overall bar consistency. in short; start off simple

[lakim shabazz]

YOooooo for the kids started off or trying to find there steeez start off simple work from your tag
REMEBER you tag must be just as fresh as your peice.

[Sketchamus]

sketchamus- some of your characs are dope as hell, but from what i saw most of your letters were lacking structure, even on that last "ramoe" one, the letters (even though they have structure) were lacking overall bar consistency. in short; start off simple

Thanks man, i appreciate the feedback and yeah i agree a lot of my letters need a lot of work, the last 'ramoe' one you mentioned is supposed to look like the robocop font, not my lettering as I wanted to keep that theme after drawing Ed209 from the movie. Glad your feelin my characters, means a lot. I'll definatly keep simplicity in mind when attempting lettering in the future.

Also check out some of my stencils that ive posted in the toy stencil thread if you get a chance, ive been designing and making stencils for about 9 years, im completely addicted to it.

[Kocka]

sketchamus: i like a lot of your characters! i cant really comment on everything because you posted so many flicks! I just wanted to
say itd be nice if you tried a full-color, full-page drawing (i mean that as in combining letters with chracters)! as far as the "Mine"-flick is concerned: work on how to make every letter match the style
youre drawing in. The E looks a bit off imo. It feels like youve chosen the easy way out with that letter. take it as constructive crit!

This sketch got deleted in the other BB thread, so i guess Im gonna post it in here to see what you guys think! i havent colored it yet, but here it is so far:

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f236/Tamachev/150320111351.jpg

it reads cubes.

[Sketchamus]

sketchamus: i like a lot of your characters! i cant really comment on everything because you posted so many flicks! I just wanted to
say itd be nice if you tried a full-color, full-page drawing (i mean that as in combining letters with chracters)! as far as the "Mine"-flick is concerned: work on how to make every letter match the style
youre drawing in. The E looks a bit off imo. It feels like youve chosen the easy way out with that letter. take it as constructive crit!

Thanks man yeah i definatly need to do a full page drawing soon, its hard to find time at the moment as my 1 year old daughter keeps me busy most the time. I did that 'Mine' drawing 7 years ago, back in 2004, so my style has changed a lot since then, but yeah I completely agree with you about the 'E', it lowers the standard of the whole piece and doesn't really look right with the other letters. Thanks for checking my pics out and for the feedback, sound.

[ribcage]

Lol this dude is fun to draw, I forget what show he was on though
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g388/ribcage22/0206111740a.jpg