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DaFugg
06-08-2011, 11:54 PM
Just a suggestion, you dont have to follow it; but I'd work on my letter structure and syle a bit more before adding effect. It has a harsh flow. The letters are all of their own style it seems. But what do I know haha

dankbudz
06-09-2011, 12:03 AM
Ewl- yeah, cut them effects right now, and do some simples. The G is looking weird cause of the curve bar turned straight. And the extension on the E and the bottom one on the G doent fit.
and youll get a steadier hand if you practice, shit like 4 months ago mine was wobbly as balls.

i really gotta post some picture in here, im been lazy as hell today.
FINALLY GOT PHOTOFUCKIT TO WORK... still had to attach it though. im not liking the S on drugs, its too long.
oh and homie did the character

DaFugg
06-09-2011, 12:36 AM
Dank would you mind doing an exchange? Your stuffs sick.

dankbudz
06-09-2011, 12:46 AM
check yo PMs

Rasm
06-09-2011, 12:53 AM
@dave the pirate, That Droze sketch isn't bad, but I'm not really feeling the D, especially the bottom part, and same with the top part of the O. I think the cracks throw it off a little. The E is too tall too. Besides that it's solid, and there seems to be a good amount of structure in there.

@EWL, I see you're keeping it simple (besides the drips) which is good. I'm not feeling the G too much but it's not terrible either. I'd make the horizontal bar of the T a little wider though, it's almost nonexistent.

@dankbudz, Yeah the top S is a little too wide but it's not that noticeable. Same with the U being elevated a little bit. Gives it style though. The FUCK IHS part is pretty good too. I might have made the middle bar of the F a tad longer, and I'd probably swap the two diagonal bars of the K, but it's solid besides that. I can't give advice on characters because I can't draw them myself.

Fuck high school.

Fury
06-09-2011, 01:49 AM
Jiska - I'd sketch a little more to get back into the habit of sketching, but your shit's pretty sweet.

No markers, all colored pencil and pen.
http://i.imgur.com/3STRh.jpg

Let me get some crits yo!

dankbudz
06-09-2011, 02:07 AM
i dunno about all those extensions, mainly that funky small bar on the S and F. but it would probably look alot better in pen and ink and if it was cleaner, it just looks all real shaky.
im also just not a fan of colored pencil. hope these are good crits

Fury
06-09-2011, 03:25 AM
Which letter do you think is the F? It says GRADS. I don't have any markers, white out, or anything, so I just had to go with what I got haha.

Ace.K
06-09-2011, 03:35 AM
I thought that A was an H. Keep it connected up top.

Jiska Matos
06-09-2011, 08:10 AM
@Fury i use pencil 2, the only thing i got to say is take time to clean out the sketch, dont rush the coloring, it takes more time but in the end makes all the diference

P.S. my blackbook covers, a project for my girl, and a sketch with a F**** up brian griffin

Skope2
06-09-2011, 08:34 AM
Yea fury, get rid of the cuts in the letters, theyre making it hard to tell what letters youve actually used. The cuts and stuff at the top and bottom of your D make it look more like a B.
Jisk - your shit is fucking nuts! I'd start posting in the intermediate thread instead (unless you are already) you've got some serious skill bro.

Did this a minuite ago, havent done any pieces for a few weeks.. Reads DEBTR, the R sucks homer simpsons fat yellow cock, fuck. not finished yet. crits please :)
The other one reads SKOPE, i posted it up here ages ago but it didnt get any comments. Just wondering if its a style I should go back to, removing alot of the extensions ofcourse.

Jiska Matos
06-09-2011, 08:48 AM
@Skope2 the first one i say the char is perfect, don't touch it, the letters just need to be spiced up a lil bit, but it's turning out cool, the second one im not sure it wil turn out great but when you'r finished with it show us....oh and thks for the crits :P

Jiska Matos
06-09-2011, 08:50 AM
oh and here is something simple for you guys to crit.

dankbudz
06-09-2011, 10:20 AM
Fur- oops, I miss typed, i meant the G haha.

DamoOne
06-09-2011, 11:37 AM
@dave the pirate - you should make that E the same size as the rest of the letters,it's a dope letter but it doesn't go well with the other letters
@ewl - lose the effect and try to make your bars even
a simple sketch with some mistakes,crits please
http://i55.tinypic.com/4lsjyu.jpg

Skope2
06-09-2011, 11:44 AM
Sick fill but if youre going to make the E and D connect like that then you need to move the Z and R closer to them. Or move the E and D away from each other a bit. Keep it up though man, your letter structure is decent.

nah!
06-09-2011, 12:17 PM
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff497/NAHgraff/100_2271.jpg
i filled this in with a bingo dabber if i remember

http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff497/NAHgraff/100_2270.jpg

pointman
06-09-2011, 12:29 PM
T-side ideas

nah!
06-09-2011, 12:37 PM
t side?

Ace.K
06-09-2011, 12:40 PM
T-side ideas

Those two are dope but it seems like you're making pieces off of the same idea for a bomb. Like using the same lettering for everything. Switch it up, find a new style. Don't get me wrong though, that'd be a dope bomb if you could do it quickly or a sweet piece for one.

Mippi
06-09-2011, 02:27 PM
random

Skope2
06-09-2011, 02:49 PM
Its aesthetically pleasing, but you can't really see any letters after the W or M or whatever that is at the beginning. Thats probably what you were going for, but still. You cant read anything.
I'd say incorporate that type of thing into a simpler piece.

Mippi
06-09-2011, 02:57 PM
perfect. It's actully not supposed to say Mipe. Its for a school project where im supposed to use the elements of design and influence from abtract expressionist artists to represent a song. figured i'd put my love of graff to use. thanks.

Skope2
06-09-2011, 03:01 PM
In that case its very good and you should be proud of yourself!

FACTone
06-09-2011, 03:22 PM
25209 dropshade? some ideas for colors ??

ribcage
06-09-2011, 03:49 PM
i wouldnt do a drop shadow, id do a long straight shadow/3d to the right, and when i say long i mean at the very least 3/4 of an inch cause the open space you left to the right of it. as for colors that shits all up to you cause no one knows what colors u has.

MrSpyrydus
06-09-2011, 04:50 PM
ok here is my first serious attemp in graffiti world:)) its made without copying or anything like that. and is the first complete drawing ever. i sketched some letters before but thats it. i would like to know what you dont like about it. what should i watch out in my next attempts, what should i work on stuff like that. thank you very much

Skope2
06-09-2011, 04:54 PM
Drop all of the arrows, and the extensions, all of them. And the B is all fucked up on that top loop. Bring the letters closer together.
Other than that, its really good for a first piece. Just keep practising mate!

dankbudz
06-09-2011, 08:18 PM
i wish i fixed up the Right part of the N and curved the top left of the S, character coulda used extra work too. whatever haha
got crits? specifics would be dope. whatevers good though
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/matthew1o/0609111710.jpg

haezr
06-09-2011, 09:31 PM
@Exact, Drop all those dots.. or most of them at least.

TastyMcNasty
06-09-2011, 10:08 PM
recent shit...
EDIT:
the colour one is in chalk, so thats why its all blurry/ smudged nd shit
and jus trying something new on the bottom one...

haezr
06-09-2011, 10:38 PM
http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff442/haezr/2011-06-09203332.jpg
Just screwing around, fill in the first one is garbage... crap ass pencil crayons+lack of proper markers= fail.

DaFugg
06-09-2011, 11:37 PM
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/Hatchetwarrior1246/100_3203.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/Hatchetwarrior1246/100_3205.jpg
Fucking around/exchange.
Crits? I think I got to busy

Edit: I know how shitty the white lines look. I don't have a darker shade of green/yellow

haezr
06-09-2011, 11:55 PM
Would look a lot better, if it was black outline with a fill. The white lines kill it.

S is a bit on the boring side, and the bar widths are a bit off.

dankbudz
06-10-2011, 12:01 AM
if that was black outline, and cleaner that wouldnt be too shabby. what did you use for the red and orange?

haezr
06-10-2011, 01:47 AM
http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff442/haezr/2011-06-09203332.jpg
Just screwing around, fill in the first one is garbage... crap ass pencil crayons+lack of proper markers= fail.

Bump for crits.

OZON
06-10-2011, 02:55 AM
get rid of the tumor on the s makes it ugly

Rasm
06-10-2011, 03:08 AM
Those S's are god awful dude. Just keep working at it.

haezr
06-10-2011, 03:59 AM
Alright, but aside from the S.. how are the other letters in their entirety?

Phat 2
06-10-2011, 04:40 AM
Alright, but aside from the S.. how are the other letters in their entirety?

uninteresting and unoriginal mostly... but it seems to me like these are some of your first sketches, so its nothing unusual that they be that way.
looks to me like you're actually "DRAWING" your letters whereas you should be WRITING them if you know what i mean, it's all in the lines, they should be as fluid and free moving as possible. You're using strict, planned out outlines, throws and handstyles are supposed to be free flowing as if you just spontaneously threw the lines up and they simply formed the letter however they formed it. let it come naturally, even if it sucked at first, but that's the key to getting steezy lines... they'll look bad at first, and youll get crits for em, but you'll start getting used to, and adapting to making better letter shapes on yor own... it all comes with habit and practice.
try doing what I said and show us what you get.
good luck

erosone
06-10-2011, 04:57 AM
25264

some sketch

Skope2
06-10-2011, 09:43 AM
You've got made flavour EROS, just fix up the bottom right part of the E and its all good

MrSpyrydus
06-10-2011, 09:58 AM
ok so here is my second attempt...what do you think?

smack1one
06-10-2011, 12:16 PM
ok so here is my second attempt...what do you think?


make all your letters the same height and width

DaFugg
06-10-2011, 12:57 PM
if that was black outline, and cleaner that wouldnt be too shabby. what did you use for the red and orange?
The White was only supposed to be a highlight not a full on line, then the pen blew out.I just used a sharpie paint marker (Red and yellow) for the middle. The fill isn't bitten but I saw something like it and wanted to try my own thing. I think got a few ideas from it.

Jiska Matos
06-10-2011, 03:39 PM
ok so here is my second attempt...what do you think?

try something new, cus that's not working very wel, try doing something more round....
oh and an update on my pice of brian griffin

dave the pirate
06-11-2011, 03:06 AM
^^ nice character

227054_10150612577330109_531610108_18498988_469384 1_n.jpg (102.0 KB)

toopski
06-11-2011, 03:21 AM
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/9476/dsc0001bgx.jpg

trying smth new but still not getting it just right needs a lotta work still

Ace.K
06-11-2011, 04:00 AM
Trying to get more technical. What you guys think?

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p104/skier46/IMG00101-20110611-0230.jpg?t=1307778246

MrSpyrydus
06-11-2011, 04:11 AM
3rd attempt:confused: crits please

Ace.K
06-11-2011, 04:14 AM
Are you trying to go for a calligraphic look to the lines?

MrSpyrydus
06-11-2011, 04:26 AM
yes..kind of...i tought this would be easier

Ace.K
06-11-2011, 04:32 AM
Ok, maybe try taking an actual calligraphy pen or marker, writing out the letters, then take note to how the widths vary and go from there. I like the colors though!

MrSpyrydus
06-11-2011, 04:34 AM
i will try another one soon...i will post it as soon as i finish it and i will keep the colors

Phat 2
06-11-2011, 05:31 AM
You've got made flavour EROS, just fix up the bottom right part of the E and its all good

erm... how about no ?
stop giving crits man please

Jiska Matos
06-11-2011, 07:41 AM
toopski your going the right way with that 3D efect...keep training, just try bringing the leters closer to each other


erm... how about no ?
stop giving crits man please

im with Phat2

Ace.K
06-11-2011, 10:39 AM
Trying to get more technical. What you guys think?

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p104/skier46/IMG00101-20110611-0230.jpg?t=1307778246

Bottom page bump. Crits?

toopski
06-11-2011, 10:41 AM
not bad a bit different idd

i see this style now and then by an artist where i live who well kills it, so working on it and perfecting it can make this look really nice

dankbudz
06-11-2011, 03:30 PM
for an exchange with DaFugg, i really gotta work more on my handys
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/matthew1o/0611111216.jpg

shits and gigs
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/matthew1o/0611111218.jpg

DaFugg
06-11-2011, 05:48 PM
i really like that second pic. The R could have been angled differently to match the K but still looks really nice, what do you use to color? And what paper?

DaFugg
06-11-2011, 06:45 PM
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/Hatchetwarrior1246/100_3206.jpg
I think I know my flaws in this one but I'd like crits

dankbudz
06-11-2011, 06:52 PM
I used prismas on the Mak and Makro piece, sharpies on the simps.
I dont really know what paper, the top one was in a sketch book, medium graid or whatever it says on front.
and the other one was in the back of my year book haha, its got a nice brownish look.

for your piece i would just loose the bars that continue upwards, and shorten the one on the K, it would look pretty good at that. Try not to hide the C behind the A, as no other letters are hidden as much.
Also work on placement for the Highlights, did you use a sharpie paint pen? the white sucks dick for those haha. looks just like it.
bars look goooood

Living_Is_Suicide
06-11-2011, 07:46 PM
First post here. Crits anybody?

Jiska Matos
06-11-2011, 08:16 PM
First post here. Crits anybody?

the idea was nice, but you letters r a little bit messy and your 3D is all over the place, clean up a little bit and you in the right way...oh and nice efects and flower on the bottom

Living_Is_Suicide
06-11-2011, 08:22 PM
Alrightt ill try n get my stuff a little more cleaner. and i always have had a problem with the 3D but im attempting it haha i always need to improve my stuff. but thanks. thats the first time i ever drew an ocean and that flower type stuff. just trying to get a whole elaborate peice, Soon ill be posting some paint. cuz my parents are starting to let me practice on walls and sheets.

Jiska Matos
06-11-2011, 08:28 PM
Alrightt ill try n get my stuff a little more cleaner. and i always have had a problem with the 3D but im attempting it haha i always need to improve my stuff. but thanks. thats the first time i ever drew an ocean and that flower type stuff. just trying to get a whole elaborate peice, Soon ill be posting some paint. cuz my parents are starting to let me practice on walls and sheets.

the 3D is simple...start by doing simple shapes and 3d them...you wil learn how the 3D adapts to the difrent types of shape...oh and i know how to draw flowers to xD

Living_Is_Suicide
06-11-2011, 08:34 PM
the 3D is simple...start by doing simple shapes and 3d them...you wil learn how the 3D adapts to the difrent types of shape...oh and i know how to draw flowers to xD

Alrightt ill try workin on somethin new and try to get posts up by tomorrow. but thats relly nice.. that ws my first try to do flowers. haha not the best. but im trying to get there

Jiska Matos
06-11-2011, 08:39 PM
Alrightt ill try workin on somethin new and try to get posts up by tomorrow. but thats relly nice.. that ws my first try to do flowers. haha not the best. but im trying to get there

if you don't like how the 3D is turning out just skip it, and do a fat outline with some efects like bars or bubbles

Ace.K
06-12-2011, 02:15 AM
Crits please!

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p104/skier46/IMG00105-20110612-0110.jpg?t=1307859107

nah!
06-12-2011, 07:43 AM
acek just do simples they look 200x better
~~~

hmm kina messed up every letter apart from the N
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff497/NAHgraff/100_2273.jpg
and my pieces alway curve up in this book fuk

CyphOne
06-12-2011, 09:16 AM
Acek, that looked way better before you added forcefield/color/inner circuit thingys

ian
06-12-2011, 11:07 AM
To me it looks like either Keau, or Keanr. It looks good but i would add in a separate n instead of using the u and a. also the top right of the K needs work and id separate the bottom leg of the K from the E

Jiska Matos
06-12-2011, 11:58 AM
while i appreciate yr critsz's and thats why i came here, if I seperate the K and E and A and N and U, isnt it just a completely different flavorless style?
im trying to bring that funk.
just try to make te last 2 letters a little bir diferent

Jiska Matos
06-12-2011, 12:02 PM
Crits please!

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p104/skier46/IMG00105-20110612-0110.jpg?t=1307859107

just a little thing...ther's a missing parte of the 3D in the left side of the A


here is something i did today in the car, yeah i know i suck

Phat 2
06-12-2011, 12:32 PM
ted logan, you can still do that while defining your letters better and making them mor legible. I'm gonna have to side wth ian and say that if I didnt know wht you write, I wouldn't have figured out what came after the A...
this goes only for this one sketch, the rest of your works are steak sauce my man :)

nah!
06-12-2011, 02:27 PM
hmm kina messed up every letter apart from the N
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff497/NAHgraff/100_2273.jpg
and my pieces alway curve up in this book fuk

gonna do more detail but might redo it on a blank page

Skope2
06-12-2011, 03:26 PM
I've been told not to crit, so just going to beg for crits of my own. Crits please? The 'R' is dog shit.

FACTone
06-12-2011, 03:29 PM
previous one but colored, first 2 pages of new blackbook

EWL24
06-12-2011, 09:59 PM
@Scope2 making the T really long made it look really bad and i had no idea that was a B until i saw that you posted this a couple pages back, before you colored it, and wrote that it said DEBTR, so i would suggest next time making the arm of the T shorter and making the back of your B straight

ChadWarden
06-12-2011, 10:27 PM
http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmn8bwpwfs1qhwdzco1_500.jpg
guys is this good? is anyone feeling this? it says keanu. thats what i write for graffiti

with the n-u connection, try something like you did on the k-e. if i didnt know better, i would say this says keanr. your k and e could stand to be bigger, match with the other letters, you know?

also the a dipping below the bottom line of the other letters is something i would fix, but, again, this is all just personal opinion. in the end, do what you feel.

Rasm
06-13-2011, 02:09 AM
@Ace-K. Man, Ace has to be one of the most overplayed names in graffiti, and you're definitely not the best one writing it. Your letters still lack a lot of structure, so you would work on that before adding other things like those rectangular shaped bumps all over the place. Also work on your fills too.

@Keanu, man I really like that throwie although there are a few things that could use work. The top right of the K doesn't really go with the rest of the piece. If you added another element like that somewhere else it would look tight. It's also hard to read because of the way you made the N and the U, and the extension on the top right of the U makes it look like it could be a lowercase R, but I like it. The A seems slightly awkward but it's solid and I don't think it's a problem that it dips below the rest of the letters. Just keep tweaking thing here and there and find what you like. You're really close to having a super dope throw.

@Skope2, The R wouldn't be that fucked up if you fixed the hole on the inside of it and made it line up better with the bottom left leg. Also the cross bar on the T is obviously huge and could look decent but it just doesn't. It's messed up in some places (especially the bottom of it just to the left of the vertical bar of the T). Its varying width isn't quite working either. Other than that, it's pretty solid, although the B looks more like an 8.

@Jiska, I like your stuff a lot. Keep it up. In some of your sketches the S's are a bit weird, and in that last one I feel like the 3 horizontal bars on the A don't quite fit the rest of the piece. Besides that, your stuff is fire.

@Nuem, That's super simple and it's not bad. I'd like to see the final result. Maybe make the M a little narrower or something; it's almost twice as wide as the E.

@Exact, Not bad man, I like it. In some of your previous sketches the X seemed to be hidden by the E too much. I would fix that by making the E over lap the top bar of the X but not the bottom, or vice versa, rather than having it overlap both. That didn't happen in this one though. I'd say the A is my least favorite letter on that piece but hey it's not bad.

Here's something funky. Not my usual letters at all.
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j89/fearophobia/kushum.jpg

Ace.K
06-13-2011, 02:16 AM
@Ace-K. Man, Ace has to be one of the most overplayed names in graffiti, and you're definitely not the best one writing it.

Oh well. I've been practicing a lot with it and just write Acek 99% of the time anyways. Until someone has a big problem with it I'll use it, I guess.

OZON
06-13-2011, 02:17 AM
it may be used alot but if there are no big writers in your area or a giank writer that rights ace dont worry about switching

dave the pirate
06-13-2011, 03:09 AM
ahah i never get crits all g tho

FACTone
06-13-2011, 03:33 AM
@rasm tanks for the critz. now about your piece the crack effect are bad look at how some good cats do em and learn the Technic. i would also fat your letter a bit. the ''S'' is ur best letter

Ace.K
06-13-2011, 03:41 AM
@Dave - That first one is tight. Second one, your bars are a little inconsistent and the extension on the K seems a bit unnecessary.

Skope2
06-13-2011, 04:32 AM
@Skope2, The R wouldn't be that fucked up if you fixed the hole on the inside of it and made it line up better with the bottom left leg. Also the cross bar on the T is obviously huge and could look decent but it just doesn't. It's messed up in some places (especially the bottom of it just to the left of the vertical bar of the T). Its varying width isn't quite working either. Other than that, it's pretty solid, although the B looks more like an 8.


Thanks man. Decided to do a revised version of it last night, I think this one looks alot better..

Jiska Matos
06-13-2011, 09:27 AM
"@Rasm thks for the crits, that's the kind of crits we should be doing on each other...oh and nice cannabis :P
here is some things im working on

KNS13
06-13-2011, 11:40 AM
simple shit
http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu261/Kema13/Photo0905.jpg

ribcage
06-13-2011, 01:30 PM
@dave you dont get crits cause your shits aight:p. But for the black and white 1 if you thicken up your outline lines some of your extensions mght look better, and itll even out your bar widths

Ace.K
06-13-2011, 02:21 PM
@Jiska stop posting in the toy section hahaha. Just kidding. you're making us all look bad!

ribcage
06-13-2011, 02:29 PM
^speak for yourself and hop off his dick, his ish aint that great, hes in the right thread

TastyMcNasty
06-13-2011, 02:43 PM
^^im thinkin he should still post here, because even though some of his fills are sick, some of his overall letters and pieces are lacking (i.e 1st 3rd, 4th and 5th and 7th flicks, diggin the second last one tho)
rasm- thats pre sick, but imo id lose the cracks, and make all hte bars connected (no seperate lines) to the rest of the letters
nark- the first ones pre good, but id take it easy with some of the extension, and clean up your fills too
skope- pre good, but im not liking the B or the extension coming of the bottom of the R
jhiz- define your I a bit more and itll be bangin
keanu- i like it alot, but it sorta looks like KEAU because of the N to U connection

looking for some crits of my own...

Ace.K
06-13-2011, 02:52 PM
The R's on the first two are hella ugly man, sorry. And are the bottom one's just throwie ideas?

Ps. Nice choice of game. Fallout 3 was so addicting when I got it.

TastyMcNasty
06-13-2011, 03:04 PM
The R's on the first two are hella ugly man, sorry. And are the bottom one's just throwie ideas?

Ps. Nice choice of game. Fallout 3 was so addicting when I got it.

ya the 2nd last one is a "secondary" name i guess, and the last one is my old name with my new style...
and haha ya thats still one of my favourite games of all time (second to oblivion), i still play it more than i play new vegas haha

EDIT:
everybody stop fighting and throw out some more crits

SHUT
06-13-2011, 04:02 PM
very quick sketch. really rough and bad lines.25515

TastyMcNasty
06-13-2011, 04:43 PM
oh and shut its a little busy, fairly hard to read, but imo it looks good... and your 3D is a bit off in some places, and the piece couldve done without the blue forcefield

nah!
06-13-2011, 04:55 PM
very quick sketch. really rough and bad lines.25515

to0 wild for me

SHUT
06-13-2011, 05:00 PM
It says KASR, not shut. (if you thought that) But thanks for the tips! :D For some reason I felt it looked "alone" without a force field lol

Rasm
06-13-2011, 05:33 PM
Very unhappy with this one. Not feeling most of the connections. Oh well.
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j89/fearophobia/rasmus-1.jpg
Crits are welcome.

Rasm
06-13-2011, 05:35 PM
@KASR, I feel like there's so much going on in that one that there's no real letter structure, just extensions galore.

dave the pirate
06-13-2011, 06:18 PM
Dont like this photo it looks weird cuz part of the peice is in the middle of two pages what eves just posting

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dave the pirate
06-13-2011, 06:29 PM
i dont live in nj in fact i live in a whole differnt country

SHUT
06-13-2011, 06:53 PM
I know what you mean man. i still am really toy. thats my new throw btw. I tested it a few times down the road on some shit bridge and it came out pretty good. I feel like my sketches always look better painted. i'll get some flicks of it painted soon. i am pretty good with bars and simple things, but i just hate using them because they're easy. i try to progress as fast as possible too much. which is good (in the potential idea of it) but i do need to use basics more. thanks for the crits and battle. looking forward to more in the future.

SHUT
06-13-2011, 08:24 PM
25526 I did this yesterday. KASR

Graham
06-13-2011, 09:06 PM
255422554225542

ok guys here are my new throwies, tell em what you think, i need constructive criticism.
Thanks

ampt
06-13-2011, 09:19 PM
on the green one which im feeling the most, the top is too wide compared to the rest of the letters

Graham
06-13-2011, 09:25 PM
@ampt, are you talking about the top of the M? And if you are got any tips on how to fix it besides just making it more narrow. The only reason i ask is because if i do make the top more narrow it will look pinched/ squeezed, got any tips ?

SHUT
06-13-2011, 09:28 PM
25544 simpler structure. sloppy letters though.

DaFugg
06-13-2011, 10:25 PM
SHUT you need to go back and work on simple letters. your letters are way out of portion in a bad way. There's no real flow your bars are Eh. The extensions and stuff on them looks accidental and sloppy like you didn't think it out. the top of the R is HUGE and doesn't work. the S fill kinda screws with its flow and makes it look ugly the right leg of the A gets all skinny and weird for no reason and the k is just tiny at top, huge at bottem and none of it flows right. Start completely over, start simple and bar that shit carefully. You can progress from there but you got a long way to go

SHUT
06-13-2011, 10:54 PM
25554 yeah, i honestly spent no time on the last one. I shouldn't have posted it.

RERUN3
06-13-2011, 11:12 PM
crits? I'm well aware of its shittiness I just wanted some specific pointers from some real writers....25556

dankbudz
06-14-2011, 01:56 AM
those last few pages made me laugh

self crits, I dont like the extension on the E's and the R needs some work.
If yall got any crits im down to hear what you think
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/matthew1o/0613112238.jpg

Skope2
06-14-2011, 07:56 AM
Dank your style looks alot like ribcages..
Finished piece from before, and a cholo!

lawlcat
06-14-2011, 10:04 AM
Skope the only thing I can really see is that T in the first one isn't really working. Definitely stick to the second one.
Dank you have your simples down for sure, should try adding some flare.
Everyone else on this page, go back to simps.

Shit that got doodled up yesterday. That T is driving me fucking insane. Even worth doing a fill?
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e174/trevronious/IMG_20110614_075845.jpg

nah!
06-14-2011, 11:27 AM
Dont like this photo it looks weird cuz part of the peice is in the middle of two pages what eves just posting

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lol facebook image code... i wonder who it could be? http://thmg.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Offkorn/th_emot-iiam.gif

after messing with the link i got this

http://www.facebook.com/rachelle.davis

~~~~~~

more pics

http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff497/NAHgraff/100_2278.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff497/NAHgraff/100_2279.jpg

Skope2
06-14-2011, 12:07 PM
Are you using oil pastels to fill?

dankbudz
06-14-2011, 02:19 PM
gotta go over it again with a fine liner and maybe the dark brown once more to make it a bit darker.
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/matthew1o/0614111111.jpg

nah!
06-14-2011, 03:01 PM
Are you using oil pastels to fill?

no stadelerefdsgsgf fineliners (0.3mm)

dankbudz
06-14-2011, 03:36 PM
Skope- hows my style look like ribs? i dont even think i got style yet and nothin close to his. but hit me up with why you think so.

ribcage
06-14-2011, 03:45 PM
I R has no stylez

rough draft to how ima burn jiska? only show in pm for 500 dolla

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ns7kXLj7co&NR=1

dankbudz
06-14-2011, 03:49 PM
Five hundred dolla!

pointman
06-14-2011, 04:05 PM
Messing around in my friends collage book.

Rib, from what ive heard jiska used to do yards until he got caught, he will understand when i say how crazy the security guards are over there...takes balls i only have respect for this guy

ribcage
06-14-2011, 04:19 PM
^am I disrespecting him? Im just playin, sheesh. When did every1 on this site turn into a pussy? I guess I inadvertently insulted him or something when I was tellin that 1 kid to shut up, didnt mean nothin by it. But he got butthurt about it.

It should be a good battle, or i wouldnt have thrown the idea out there caue i aint gonna waste my time on a battle that i could easily win ya dig?

anyways your L's are kinda off, and that A is seriously hurtin. Diggin them cloudy letters at the bottom tho. youse gettin better

Jiska Matos
06-14-2011, 06:00 PM
^am I disrespecting him? Im just playin, sheesh. When did every1 on this site turn into a pussy? I guess I inadvertently insulted him or something when I was tellin that 1 kid to shut up, didnt mean nothin by it. But he got butthurt about it.

It should be a good battle, or i wouldnt have thrown the idea out there caue i aint gonna waste my time on a battle that i could easily win ya dig?

anyways your L's are kinda off, and that A is seriously hurtin. Diggin them cloudy letters at the bottom tho. youse gettin better

it's going to be a good battle, we used a little bit of trash talk but in the end no arm has been done...the trash talk only makes us do better stuff.

TastyMcNasty
06-14-2011, 06:20 PM
bumping for crits... and sorry never got around to posting the battle flick, got krunk instead

Rasm
06-14-2011, 07:39 PM
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e174/trevronious/IMG_20110614_075845.jpgI'd maybe make the T a bit narrower and then let the E overlap the horizontal bar of it. Could look a lot better that way. Also keep your letter height consistent. The tops of the letters line up well but the bottoms don't at all.

@Tasty, not bad man, but I'd probably make the circle in the R a tad bigger so it could connect to the vertical bar a little lower. That could help it look a little less awkward. Besides that, just try mixing it up a bit more between sketches. Your letters and extensions are almost the same in both of those which can keep you from improving, ya know?

skinaone
06-14-2011, 09:48 PM
bumping for crits... and sorry never got around to posting the battle flick, got krunk instead

nah man def not feeling it
go back to simple letters cause the extencions are mad wack
im just being real

dave the pirate
06-15-2011, 01:20 AM
Dont like the first one was pretty high on 420 what ever tho


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Rasm
06-15-2011, 02:11 AM
Dont like the first one was pretty high on 420 what ever tho
Well a 24 hour purple kush diet could indeed have something to do with that :D
I like the 2nd more than the first because the letters are consistent and it has more flow. The N is slightly bigger than the rest of the letters but it's almost unnoticeable, and the 3D on the arrow off the K is much wider than the rest of the 3D. On the first one the letters kept getting wider and taller as you went, and I'm not really feeling the multiple arrow extensions off the N and the K but you don't like the piece either so fuck it. Keep it up, I can smell some good things in the near future from you.

Fresh_ADT
06-15-2011, 02:23 AM
Ok some of my stuff...

Critics pls

Tempo718
06-15-2011, 03:00 AM
good look fresh, keep that up nice 2 see your input in this weeks piece battle. its in the toys forum up top. check into it . peace

Jiska Matos
06-15-2011, 08:35 AM
ahah Fresh my homeboy! nice seeing you here...vamos ensinar estes Mouros todos como funcionam as coisas aqui na TUGA!!!

Jiska Matos
06-15-2011, 10:16 AM
@ribcage here is my shit

toopski
06-15-2011, 10:44 AM
http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/1241/dsc0001sx.jpg
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/1201/dsc0001n.jpg
http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/8333/dsc0002lk.jpg
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/1527/dsc0003pz.jpg

latest sketches

Fresh_ADT
06-15-2011, 12:08 PM
ahah Fresh my homeboy! nice seeing you here...vamos ensinar estes Mouros todos como funcionam as coisas aqui na TUGA!!!

Eh eh eh meu bro, vamos pois ensinar estes MOUROS como a cena aqui na TUGA!!! Ur seckth is so dooooooppppppp... Amei Manito.. T no papo =D

DaFugg
06-15-2011, 12:47 PM
Jiska, you went to art school didn't you? Or a tattoo artist maybe? Your stuff may not be the best but undoubtably some nice artwork there. Stoked to see what Ribcage throws out.
Toopski, I don't know if I like the uc in that/those pictures. Something about it makes it look like you made them fit the page. The e kinda doesn't fit either but all in all i still like it.

toopski
06-15-2011, 01:22 PM
Jiska, you went to art school didn't you? Or a tattoo artist maybe? Your stuff may not be the best but undoubtably some nice artwork there. Stoked to see what Ribcage throws out.
Toopski, I don't know if I like the uc in that/those pictures. Something about it makes it look like you made them fit the page. The e kinda doesn't fit either but all in all i still like it.

lol dunno bout art school but his shit would be weak for a tattoo artist, no disrespect just my opinion from knowing a range of different tattoo artists myself and having tattoo's

edit. lol didnt even see ur crits till later, thx man yeah just randomly started drawing while watching some movies n went for a different style to how i actually paint but i liked it as a whole as yeah i usually hate my latters when they are on their own

ribcage
06-15-2011, 01:40 PM
It already midnight there or you just early? Ima finish mine after work... anyways post it in the beef battle thread so we an have people vote on em after i put mine in there

Jiska Matos
06-15-2011, 02:07 PM
Jiska, you went to art school didn't you? Or a tattoo artist maybe? Your stuff may not be the best but undoubtably some nice artwork there. Stoked to see what Ribcage throws out.
Toopski, I don't know if I like the uc in that/those pictures. Something about it makes it look like you made them fit the page. The e kinda doesn't fit either but all in all i still like it.

you got me :P i worked for a tattoo studio has a tattoo designer, here are some of my works

toopski
06-15-2011, 02:16 PM
ah thats more like it prooves me wrong tho the other image didnt show some signs of this stuff

not bad koi, gonna get one done later this year myself, atm only got the japanese dragon which was posted in the normal photography thread once b4

Jiska Matos
06-15-2011, 02:19 PM
ah thats more like it prooves me wrong tho the other image didnt show some signs of this stuff

not bad koi, gonna get one done later this year myself, atm only got the japanese dragon which was posted in the normal photography thread once b4

thks man, i love oriental tattoo, im learning how to tattoo now, i have done one in a real person and it turned out good...here is the final result and a dragon i did

Jiska Matos
06-15-2011, 02:21 PM
ah thats more like it prooves me wrong tho the other image didnt show some signs of this stuff

not bad koi, gonna get one done later this year myself, atm only got the japanese dragon which was posted in the normal photography thread once b4

lol

FlatScank
06-15-2011, 02:54 PM
doin' up Sonic this weekend on a prod.

ribcage
06-15-2011, 03:08 PM
.....mkay so you got te very generic sonic down, now take what ever book or intenret site or whatever way that showed you how to draw him, and throw it in the trash. Then take what youve learned from it and freestyle a sonic that doesnt look like a pitcure off the game cover ya feel me? Like same cleanliness and sonic perfectness, but freestlyed so he doin somethin instead of just standin there, like make him cracked out or something...

Skope2
06-15-2011, 03:09 PM
Debts

Ace.K
06-15-2011, 03:29 PM
I'd say connect the D and B at the top instead of them overlapping themselves. I'm diggin the E and S.

dankbudz
06-15-2011, 06:07 PM
this is for the piece battle if its still open
i dont really like the whole thing, especially the E and R cause they are so just lame. but hit me with crits if ya got any
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/matthew1o/0615111457.jpg

Rasm
06-15-2011, 06:18 PM
Here's some weak shit.
Did it while on the phone with my boy James from Portland.. in under 10 mins easily.
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j89/fearphobia/IMAG0716.jpg

Jiska Matos
06-15-2011, 06:32 PM
this is for the piece battle if its still open
i dont really like the whole thing, especially the E and R cause they are so just lame. but hit me with crits if ya got any
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/matthew1o/0615111457.jpg

just a little thing, the U is missing the 3D in the lower part

dankbudz
06-15-2011, 06:36 PM
yeep, caught that when i posted it, thanks for the crits though

RERUN3
06-15-2011, 06:37 PM
kill me with crits I'm trying to move on from bars... sorry bout not criting but seems stupid considering my skill level...2565725658
i kinda like it better without all the useless crap

dankbudz
06-15-2011, 06:42 PM
Rask- looks nice, i just wouldnt connect the J to the dot of the I
Rerun- work on smooth lines and either slightly overlap all the letters, like the O, or dont. i wouldnt untill you got them down, do it like the K and E.
also that C is way to covered and the bar width is pretty fat.

Rasm
06-15-2011, 07:10 PM
@Asocke, man you're nowhere near ready to move on from bars yet. Your bar width is very inconsistent (top part of the C vs. the top part of the E, for example). Your E is too wide too. Why is that top horizontal bar so long? Your O is round on the left side and not on the right. It's also overlapped by the S and it overlaps the C, but besides that none of your letters overlap, which kills the flow. Your drop shadow is off too in a lot of places and I'm really not feeling having it outlined in both orange and red. That handstyle isn't too good either.

4menace2society0
06-15-2011, 09:16 PM
you got me :P i worked for a tattoo studio has a tattoo designer, here are some of my works

You still have quite a bit to improve but nice shit anyways man, good stuff

DaFugg
06-16-2011, 01:01 AM
far as his artistic ability what does he have to work on? Not trying to hop on his dick so back up Ribcage (jk) but he seems like he has his style down pretty well. what's he missing? I'm trying to develop my artistic eye better by asking cause his shit is flawless to me.

DaFugg
06-16-2011, 01:04 AM
far as his artistic ability what does he have to work on? Not trying to hop on his dick so back up Ribcage (jk) but he seems like he has his style down pretty well. what's he missing? I'm trying to develop my artistic eye better by asking cause his shit is flawless to me.

toopski
06-16-2011, 10:01 AM
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/267/dsc0003yj.jpg
http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/7171/dsc0004ot.jpg
http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/7370/dsc0002jbf.jpg
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/6619/dsc0005ys.jpg

got some new markers for fills 2day so had a lil mess around, now i can finish that sucker piece

Skope2
06-16-2011, 10:38 AM
The E and R in USER need some work, the styles look different and the middle bar of the E is far too stubby. The E in the second one wouldve fit better. The U and S are on point though. Dont really like the little triangle cuts in the letters either, but thats personal preference.

toopski
06-16-2011, 10:42 AM
yeah thx man just messing with some freestyle shit atm think every sketch i do is a different style only thing thats usually the same is my painting

aaesoo
06-16-2011, 12:53 PM
http://i52.tinypic.com/vj3pi.jpg
didn't have a ruler so the lines are off some. probably could have used a card or something but fuck it.

Rasm
06-16-2011, 02:44 PM
@Toopski, I agree with Skope2's crits for the most part. I don't mind the triangular cuts, but I think that the U is too small compared to the S and is too hidden by the S too. The S overlaps it in two places; you should have made the U overlap it in one of those instead. I guess that's personal preference though. But keep it up, it's looking solid.

@Aeso, man, don't start thinking about symmetry until you get your letters down because it will end up just hindering you. Keep doing simples and once you get some style/structure, then consider doing something symmetrical if you still want. And like you said, a bunch of the lines are off, especially down on the 3D.

nah!
06-16-2011, 03:10 PM
http://i52.tinypic.com/vj3pi.jpg
didn't have a ruler so the lines are off some. probably could have used a card or something but fuck it.

don't use a ruler.

FlatScank
06-16-2011, 03:31 PM
Tails and a sketch.

DaFugg
06-16-2011, 04:02 PM
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/Hatchetwarrior1246/100_3211.jpg
Exchange for SER, sorry it took forever, also looks like shit. top line above the E isn't effect. these shitty sharpie pens blow out a ton

Rasm
06-16-2011, 06:26 PM
@FlatScank, I'm digging the tails, but I'd lose the extensions on the F, L and T of the sketch. Or change them at least; for some reason I'm just not feeling them, but then again I can't place my finger on why and I guess it's personal preference. Also I hate seeing that shit you did with the bottom of the A. It's so overplayed and lacks so much originality. Fuck. But for the most part it is a pretty solid sketch and I like your style.

@DaFugg, I'm not loving it but if you keep working with that style, it will start looking good. It's also not your usual word. The E just seems awkward for some reason, and the top part of the S is the only real curved part of the whole thing... well I guess the right part of the R is curved too, but basically it lacks consistency. You made the top of the E and the R match, but the top of the S is completely different, which throws it off a bit.

DaFugg
06-16-2011, 08:17 PM
Thanks guys, The curved bars were cause that's something that I feel I need to work on. My next goal is consistency, which seems to get me every time.

haezr
06-16-2011, 08:41 PM
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/267/dsc0003yj.jpg
http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/7171/dsc0004ot.jpg


got some new markers for fills 2day so had a lil mess around, now i can finish that sucker piece


The U and the S are bang on, the E from the DE would've fit better, and the R just blows.

haezr
06-16-2011, 08:42 PM
http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff442/haezr/2011-06-14111623.jpg

Screwing around, I'm so fucking stuck...
The purple and yellow markers started to fucking bleed, ugh... shitty markers = ftl.

DaFugg
06-16-2011, 08:45 PM
I like the last one. I know he's supposed to be a tadpole, but I couldn't help but imagine him having a chainsaw bottom lip. lol, but in all reality your letter structure is crap. start over. Progress.

Tempo718
06-17-2011, 03:38 AM
whats up flat, i see your crew spark a lil light of fire in that belly, do your thing! stay wit it.
ummmmm i ono im 2 lazy to go back n comment on all y'all but yesterday was tupac birthday so I put together a piece in memory of his life. here it go. hope you like it.
25687

ierkpeople
06-17-2011, 12:16 PM
http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee433/ierkpeople/IMG-20110616-00039.jpg

dankbudz
06-17-2011, 04:15 PM
Tempo- go alott simpler for now
Erk- cant really crit that, but i would work on the E

got bored so i fucked around with these things you call markers...
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/matthew1o/0617111251.jpg
those thin sharpie markers suck dick at keeping a consistent line.

NouveauP
06-17-2011, 04:30 PM
Quickie for a friend.
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo20/NouveauP/IMG_0364.jpg

DaFugg
06-17-2011, 05:53 PM
I like it. the YC is knda boring but those are tough as it is lol.

Tempo718
06-17-2011, 06:21 PM
dank that is sooo good.
I have a hard time with curves n all that. yakno

ribcage
06-17-2011, 06:38 PM
Tempo- go alott simpler for now
Erk- cant really crit that, but i would work on the E

got bored so i fucked around with these things you call markers...

those thin sharpie markers suck dick at keeping a consistent line.

fine liner sharpies/Micro tips? you just have to get used to em, you gotta apply the perfect amount of pressure and have a smooth hand. If you push down too hard it fucks em up

@nouv clean as always, C got a lil chubby at the bottom

Phat 2
06-17-2011, 07:06 PM
imo it didnt get chubby enough to match the L and E

ATAK!:3
06-17-2011, 08:49 PM
25698
spmething i scetched for my crew, crits?

Ace.K
06-17-2011, 08:55 PM
Ditch those arrows.

ribcage
06-17-2011, 09:08 PM
@atakI really like how you wrote crew and then put an arrow pointing to the letters... lol but uh lose the arrows and extensions for now, and work on straight letters and your handstyles

meh pencil sketches for days, this the next 1 to be worked/fixed and inked, emphasis on the fixing part
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g388/ribcage22/0617111803.jpg

Tempo718
06-17-2011, 09:57 PM
thas wassup rib, look a lil different from ur others?

Tempo718
06-17-2011, 09:59 PM
25701

ribcage
06-17-2011, 10:12 PM
yeah i guess, looks like my simps mostly, xcept the A and R, I gotta go to work on the E and C, especially the C lol

T to E connection is bad, bar width on the top crossing bar of the T is inconsistent. All your extenisons on this one are bad, but the only ones that have potential are the ones on the E cause their the only ones that make sense. You gotta learn what extensions make sense and what extensions dont make sense(like the one on top of your O and others...). Also you need to learn where to end some of your bars, Like where the 2 bars meet to make the hole in the middle of your P cut that extra part off at the point and make it look flat still but not enlongated ya digg?

BRER
06-18-2011, 12:14 AM
@Tempo - rib basically covered everything. your o looks like a d though. It looks really forced. I dont know, just put some music on, smoke some pot or drink something (or both), and just try to go with the flow of the letters, your body, and the music. I don't know lol. Loosen up. Hope that helps.

Exchange for Atak. Tried new style. I definately need better control, so I'm gonna stick to simps for a while. Also really shitty blurry photo (my camera sucks).
25708
crits welcome.

Rasm
06-18-2011, 01:10 AM
dank that is sooo good.Easy there bro, it's really not that good. Not saying it's bad, but it's just extremely simple. Nothing to get hard for.

@Tempo, Man you should go way simpler. Your letter structure is decent at best and you really need to work on your flow before you get carried away with extensions and add-ons.

@Erk, I don't have much to say. It's mostly good but keep working with those letters because it lacks consistency in some places.

@NouveauP, I guess there's a few things here and there that I would tweak, but overall it's pretty tight. Good looks and hopefully Alyce will return the favor somehow. :D

@Atak, Man you need to go back to square one. Go back to doing simples. And I mean extremely simple. Right now your letters are inconsistent and have absolutely no flow. Your bar widths are all different, and the C is almost painful to look at. You should lose the arrows until you are good enough to incorporate them into the piece without overdoing it and actually know how to draw them. Don't worry about connecting your letters; you're not there yet. That's something that will come with time and practice, so keep pounding out simples until you understand the nature and flow of the letters. Once you're that you can start thinking about making it more elaborate.

@Keanu, I've given crits to you before. I like it but I'd make the E bigger and the A smaller. Apart from that it's not bad.

@ribcage, That sketch is looking solid. It has consistency and flow. Color it soon, I want to see the final result.

@Brer, I see mad potential in that sketch, and it's not even your usual word. I'd like to see the finished product if you plan on adding more to it.

weakfingers
06-18-2011, 01:20 AM
So many good sketches in this thread,

repost for talking
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2477/5792229313_92a54240aa_b.jpg

ATAK!:3
06-18-2011, 11:57 AM
25716 tried tp make it simpler, camera sucks ass, as usual.

dankbudz
06-18-2011, 08:44 PM
Atak- you gotta start practicing real simples, like "ATAK", same bar width same height, no extension/connections and er thang. yeah thats a simple, but its pretty weak

..romero..
06-18-2011, 09:24 PM
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z241/RAEL_ONE/001-4.jpg


http://youtu.be/94Alq44dGY8

i haven't posted here in a while, some new shit i got to lazy to finish. as always.

ribcage
06-18-2011, 11:39 PM
^uuuhhhn thas tight, you pwease do this thread a favor and post more O.o

havent erased pencil yet... boutta beef them lines up and slap some 3d on it and call it a night
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g388/ribcage22/0618112034.jpg

BigBend
06-19-2011, 01:34 AM
quick sketch sry bout the 3d just got lazy with it! critts
http://i53.tinypic.com/fvfccw.jpg

ribcage
06-19-2011, 02:45 AM
^not too bad, you know how you made a point a flat edge on the top of the left most bar of N(the one thats part of the E) you should do that on the right bottom point of the D

messed up on the E C and H..... I like the letters tho so after i put 3d on ima do this 1 on a different page and color it there instead of wastin colors on theese 1
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g388/ribcage22/0618112335.jpg

Tempo718
06-19-2011, 03:34 AM
25738

Ace.K
06-19-2011, 03:37 AM
@Rib - I think the top of the R is kind of off the theme since its sharp when the rest of it is smoother. Just sayin.

BigBend
06-19-2011, 03:55 AM
@tempo-go alittle more simple till you get letter structure down
@rib-try and even out ur hard and soft corners to even it out

Tempo718
06-19-2011, 04:47 AM
25739
started to fill in the outline wit green got mad and began scribbling all over it before I crumpled it up. then I said o well fuk it. so here leave it as is over there. i need a bite a grub..

ribcage
06-19-2011, 04:59 AM
@ace-k i think the C is too round at the top, and thats what doesnt fit

Iyk
06-19-2011, 06:56 AM
..

ATAK!:3
06-19-2011, 09:44 AM
25743okay going for more keyboard type letters, crits?

ANRone
06-19-2011, 10:45 AM
Pretty shit, ran out of space on the R also.
25744

Skope2
06-19-2011, 02:08 PM
Lyk - Go keyboard letters, and try to use bars. (If you dont know what i mean by bars, check out the 'New to graffiti, start here' thread for some quality tips)
ATAK - Those connenctions make the last letter hard to read. For a while I thought it was INI, not INC. Space is your friend.
ANR - Tidy up those outlines and itll look alright.

Struggling to come up with a good T

Rasm
06-19-2011, 02:20 PM
@Bend, Not bad at all dude. I'm feeling the letters and the flow. The 3D is pretty off though.

@Rib, The R looked better in the original sketch than in the final result... not sure how that happened. It's got all straight lines at the top and is the only part of your piece like that. You should have rounded it a bit more in places. It's not bad though. If you lowered the top curve of the C a bit to make it match the other letters height-wise, and move the H a tad closer, it would look better.

@Tempo, I'm not going to give you anymore crits after this one unless you go simpler. Your letter structure is no good. Your bar widths are all different. Sometimes that can work if you do it in the right places, but you're not making it work, so go simpler. The bottom connection between the S and the C is terrible looking. You extended the bottom of the S way too much to make it work, and the bottom of the C where it connects isn't good either. Also, lose that extension at the top of the C. It looks bad and is in the wrong place. And o the PJZ one, same thing. You still don't have solid letter structure down, so those connections and extensions don't make it look good. Look at how varied your bar width is too... Go back to super basic letters and NO connections. Also keep practicing your handstyle.

@Lyk, Same thing. Do super basic sketches to get your letter structure down. At least you aren't adding needless connections yet. Those come with time.

@Atak!, Well you went simpler this time which is good. The inside of your N is really hurting and so is your handstyle and 3D in places.

@ANR, It's very basic but it at least has some consistency. This would look sweet as a roller somewhere.

@Debts, just missed yours, but it's definitely the best thing anyone's posted here in the last couple days. The top curve of the B seems a little messed up on its bottom right side where it connects to the bottom curve of the B, but besides that everything's pretty good. The D isn't bad but I think I liked some of the ones from your other sketches a little better. Good work man.

ierkpeople
06-19-2011, 03:46 PM
http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee433/ierkpeople/IMG-20110616-00039.jpg
bump for crits

Jiska Matos
06-19-2011, 04:35 PM
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/Hatchetwarrior1246/100_3211.jpg
Exchange for SER, sorry it took forever, also looks like shit. top line above the E isn't effect. these shitty sharpie pens blow out a ton

here is your's...hope you like it

ribcage
06-19-2011, 05:14 PM
@Rib, The R looked better in the original sketch than in the final result... not sure how that happened. It's got all straight lines at the top and is the only part of your piece like that. You should have rounded it a bit more in places. It's not bad though. If you lowered the top curve of the C a bit to make it match the other letters height-wise, and move the H a tad closer, it would look better.


It like that in the sketch too... But yeah I changed some shit as I was outlining cause thats just how I do... Didnt work out on the C but most of it will look better visually w/ 3d... this is just a scrap piece anyways
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g388/ribcage22/0617111803.jpg

dankbudz
06-19-2011, 05:44 PM
outlined and colored this at like 4 am. i got some new bic markers for like 50 cents. shit was caaash.
crit on anything BUT the background haha, its just plain retarded

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/matthew1o/0619111355.jpg

ribcage
06-19-2011, 06:26 PM
you should have ended your 3d somewhere, and your R looks like a P then an un proportionate kick out, it looks that way cause the rounded part is a little small, and then instead of having the horizontal bar that starts your right leg go straight out its slanting down... make it straight and itll look better... The BG dont look that bad, if you did that then covered all the remaining white with black itd prolly pop pretty nicely with the lighter colors of your piece

dankbudz
06-19-2011, 07:10 PM
thanks for the crits homie
i feel you on the 3d and R, R's have been kilin me and i have slowly been understanding how to work that middle bar.

Tempo718
06-19-2011, 07:37 PM
I like that ribs crits are hella detailed he is good at pointing things out that we miss, but I like it dank i thought it was a good one.

DaFugg
06-19-2011, 08:00 PM
Hey jiska that's dope man thanks. what kind of marker you using?

Jiska Matos
06-19-2011, 08:07 PM
Hey jiska that's dope man thanks. what kind of marker you using?

made this with the 3 markers i bought today, the pink is Molotow 227, and the black and the white are molotow 127

dankbudz
06-19-2011, 08:35 PM
ayy, does anyone have any crits/ tips for Y's?
i had to fuck with the image to show the lines better cause i have been fucking with this P and Y to fit for ever and its a bitch.
so tips or anything to help would be appreciated.

im talking about the negative space and shit, is my problem that i put the HAP too close together and the P's and Y just cant get that close?

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/matthew1o/0619111732.jpg

Rasm
06-19-2011, 11:42 PM
Fuck. Here's some 10 minute bullshit. I haven't had the time to sketch lately, and it shows.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j89/fearophobia/IMAG0780-1.jpg


Not sure if I dropped this here yet. Says Minor.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j89/fearophobia/minor-1-2.jpg

Ace.K
06-20-2011, 12:35 AM
Outline for my Cuore exchange. Crits? Kinda hard to see with shitty phone cam.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p104/skier46/IMG00134-20110619-0011.jpg?t=1308460430

ribcage
06-20-2011, 12:49 AM
not too shabby, make the exclamation point 2 seperate parts

well i colored it...
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g388/ribcage22/0619112145.jpg

dankbudz
06-20-2011, 01:40 AM
Yo Rasm, by any chance to you frequent GrassCity forums?
Ribcage -thats super fresh, but i think that R could use more work all around.

Letters suck dick, and yes i forgot to put an S in Fathers. I rushed the fuuuck outta the words, took more time on the characters, and couldnt get in a background
Crit the "FATHER" part if anything.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/matthew1o/_MG_3754-1.jpg

Rasm
06-20-2011, 01:59 AM
@Ace, that's about as simple as it gets so I don't have much to say but it's pretty good. The bar widths are good except for the right half of the C, and definitely lose the connection in the !

@Reach, looks a little better now that it's done. I think the A might be too wide (especially compared to the E and the C) and I'm not sure if I'm digging the swirls on the bottoms of the A and the H, but it's still pretty good. I still think the top of the R could be more round, and the H and C could be closer, but I can't complain. The colors don't look great together but overall it's solid.

@Dank, I like it dude! In the FATHER, I probably would have extended the leg of the R a little more to match the bottom of the other letters. In the word DAY there might be a little too much space between the DA compared to the AY, but you probably had to squeeze to get the characters in. The bar width on the Y's seem to be a little thinner than the rest, but besides that it's good. The lettering is simple but well-done so it's effective, and the characters are dope. And yeah, I've dropped a few sketches in the graffiti thread over there. You post there ever?

Tempo718
06-20-2011, 02:28 AM
av y'all eva made som an after thot...... yo....... whaaaaat tha fuk????
25759
LOL:confused:

Ace.K
06-20-2011, 02:39 AM
Just gonna post it here too. Finished product.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p104/skier46/IMG00137-20110620-0127-1.jpg

BigBend
06-20-2011, 04:26 AM
@ace likin it man
@rasm not really feeling the minor piece dont know why just cant point it out right now! but the simp. is looking good bro
Anyway heres a quick sketch i did of a simple!
http://i52.tinypic.com/im6yjs.jpg

Ace.K
06-20-2011, 04:36 AM
Thanks bend. I feel as though you could've done more with that B. Given it more flavor or something with the rest of the letters.

BigBend
06-20-2011, 04:47 AM
yeah i mean it was really done as a quick simple sketch for a up and go thing not really trying to get complicated on those but will keep ya advise in mind thankx bro!

Iyk
06-20-2011, 07:03 AM
The first ones are the initial letters.
I used bars in all of the letters, i also went through the new to graffiti thread and picked up some tips, thanks for that.

Skope2
06-20-2011, 11:39 AM
lyk - no no no no no no, those bars and shit are all off. start from scratch, drop ALL of the extensions.

Dont take offense, but your clearly a beginner, which means you have to start from the ground up. that means keyboard letters. I know its boring as fuck and everyone hates keyboard letters, but trust me once youve got the bars and structure down you can start to do proper extensions in the right places and have them look slicker. cause right now that piece looks like dicks.
You want your letters right now looking abit like these, until you can nail them. I couldnt be fucked to do all of them, but you get the idea.

Rasm
06-20-2011, 12:30 PM
@Tempo, man you still have zero letter structure. DO SIMPLES.

@Lyk, that's not what people mean by bars man. Listen to Skope and check out the New to Graffiti thread.

@Bend, I like it, but I feel like the D could be changed a bit to match the other letters a little better or something.

Skope2
06-20-2011, 01:40 PM
Self crits - The bottom of the S is whack. T is pretty whack. 3D needs more shading but that can be done another time..

Ace.K
06-20-2011, 01:50 PM
The top right side of the D could be chunkier, the top of the E could be skinnier. Just my two cents.

nah!
06-20-2011, 04:42 PM
http://www.bombingscience.com/graffitiforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=25773&stc=1&d=1308584315

keep the bars the same width

Skope2
06-20-2011, 04:50 PM
keep the bars the same width

of course. i just did this in about 5 seconds in paint just as an example.

nah!
06-20-2011, 04:54 PM
well you need to do bettter!!!!!!


j/k

jesussaves
06-20-2011, 05:34 PM
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/jesussaves-1/IMG_0877.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/jesussaves-1/IMG_0874.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/jesussaves-1/IMG_0872.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/jesussaves-1/IMG_0228.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/jesussaves-1/IMG_0743-1.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/jesussaves-1/IMG_0736.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/jesussaves-1/100_5230.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/jesussaves-1/jsblakbuk2-1.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/jesussaves-1/jsblakbuk.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/jesussaves-1/100_4728.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/jesussaves-1/007-1.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/jesussaves-1/100_3240.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/jesussaves-1/jsblakbuk140-1.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/jesussaves-1/jsblakbuk139.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/jesussaves-1/jsblakbuk143.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/jesussaves-1/jsblakbuk127.jpg
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/jesussaves-1/100_1279.jpg
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/jesussaves-1/100_1281.jpg
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/jesussaves-1/100_1283.jpg
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/jesussaves-1/jsblakbuk134.jpg

Ace.K
06-20-2011, 05:48 PM
Post all your pictures in one post from now on. And why are you doing the same piece but with different fills? Branch out more.

Phat 2
06-20-2011, 06:16 PM
jesussaves, pull that shit again and I'm banning you for flooding... always gather all your flicks into one post

Skope2
06-20-2011, 06:53 PM
Quick biro flik

BigBend
06-21-2011, 12:38 AM
@skope likin it but the center of the b could have a space instead of a line to make all the letters match other than that you on the right track
Sketch i did today kinda went alittle wild, but cant learn nuthing unless you try it out so! sry will have colors up soon prismas ran out on me
http://i55.tinypic.com/73c5d5.jpg

Skope2
06-21-2011, 05:34 AM
Only bit that looks a bit off is that extension coming up from the bottom of the N. other than that it looks good man, im sure itll look better once its done too.

Tempo718
06-21-2011, 06:00 AM
skope killin em. do it up I wana see paint on ur hands. peace

ribcage
06-21-2011, 02:56 PM
@skope your D is weak, whats up with all the little oin smooth bar connectons/extensions; Like the top of D and bottom left of D? Top 2 bars of E are bad, the top most one looks like a block/chunk.... Your B is really bad, Top half of it looks like the D and the top half of R. Then in the middle you have two bars just laying on top of eachother.... Your T is fine, and the bottom half of your R is fine. You got the right idea for the top of the R i guess, but its shape dont work atm, you gotta work it more until its propportionate, and the extension on the bottom left of R is bad as well

Rasm
06-21-2011, 11:18 PM
Here's some quick shit. I'm going to fix it up a little before putting the 3D on and coloring it. CRITS?

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j89/fearophobia/pabstquickie-2.jpg

Iyk
06-22-2011, 06:35 AM
Obviously rushed the shit out of this, but the point being, is this what your asking me to aim at for now, basic lettering, keyboard etc.

25869

Skope2
06-22-2011, 11:51 AM
@ribcage cheers for crits man. took it into account and quickly came up with this earlier. going to stop posting shit up here after this and just get on with it for a week or two.
the D didnt come out how i hoped
@lyk yea sort of.. i took a picture of this one before rubbing shit out so you know what i mean by bars.2587625877

FlatScank
06-22-2011, 01:30 PM
some sketchs for weekend paint sessions.25881258822588325885

Ace.K
06-22-2011, 01:44 PM
You must just get your char's from google because those stances are so generic for all of them.

FlatScank
06-22-2011, 01:52 PM
they are simple stances, I do get references from google though.

ribcage
06-22-2011, 02:56 PM
just a reference though right?
http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/and-then-what/Wile-E-Coyote.jpg

Ace.K
06-22-2011, 03:22 PM
Yeah, just a ref.

http://images.wikia.com/fairlyoddparents/en/images/2/2f/FairlyOddParents_Cosmo_01.jpg
http://www.screenhead.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/marvin-the-martian.gif

FlatScank
06-22-2011, 04:16 PM
obviously it's easier to do a free-hand from looking a picture, but it's harder to pull it off in paint, plus, hardly anyone here actually paints *Ace,Reach*, atleast I can pull off the characters when actually painting.

Ace.K
06-22-2011, 04:26 PM
You're doing legal pieces, anyone can do characters just fine when you have all the time in the world dip shit. And there's no point in me saying that I do paint because you can just call me a liar because this is the fucking internet. When really, I do go bombing. I just don't post everything I do on here to try to get some recognition like an attention wanting teenage girl.

I like that piece dude, but don't talk shit about people you don't know about.

FlatScank
06-22-2011, 04:47 PM
You're doing legal pieces, anyone can do characters just fine when you have all the time in the world dip shit. And there's no point in me saying that I do paint because you can just call me a liar because this is the fucking internet. When really, I do go bombing. I just don't post everything I do on here to try to get some recognition like an attention wanting teenage girl.

I like that piece dude, but don't talk shit about people you don't know about.

I do some illegal burners, don't post them though, only shit I do have all the time in the world to do, doesn't help that I'm a foreigner in the country I'm currently in.