Blackbooks

[Jiska Matos]

this is for the piece battle if its still open
i dont really like the whole thing, especially the E and R cause they are so just lame. but hit me with crits if ya got any
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/matthew1o/0615111457.jpg

just a little thing, the U is missing the 3D in the lower part

[dankbudz]

yeep, caught that when i posted it, thanks for the crits though

[RERUN3]

kill me with crits I'm trying to move on from bars... sorry bout not criting but seems stupid considering my skill level...2565725658
i kinda like it better without all the useless crap

[dankbudz]

Rask- looks nice, i just wouldnt connect the J to the dot of the I
Rerun- work on smooth lines and either slightly overlap all the letters, like the O, or dont. i wouldnt untill you got them down, do it like the K and E.
also that C is way to covered and the bar width is pretty fat.

[Rasm]

@Asocke, man you're nowhere near ready to move on from bars yet. Your bar width is very inconsistent (top part of the C vs. the top part of the E, for example). Your E is too wide too. Why is that top horizontal bar so long? Your O is round on the left side and not on the right. It's also overlapped by the S and it overlaps the C, but besides that none of your letters overlap, which kills the flow. Your drop shadow is off too in a lot of places and I'm really not feeling having it outlined in both orange and red. That handstyle isn't too good either.

[4menace2society0]

you got me :P i worked for a tattoo studio has a tattoo designer, here are some of my works

You still have quite a bit to improve but nice shit anyways man, good stuff

[DaFugg]

far as his artistic ability what does he have to work on? Not trying to hop on his dick so back up Ribcage (jk) but he seems like he has his style down pretty well. what's he missing? I'm trying to develop my artistic eye better by asking cause his shit is flawless to me.

[DaFugg]

far as his artistic ability what does he have to work on? Not trying to hop on his dick so back up Ribcage (jk) but he seems like he has his style down pretty well. what's he missing? I'm trying to develop my artistic eye better by asking cause his shit is flawless to me.

[toopski]

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/267/dsc0003yj.jpg
http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/7171/dsc0004ot.jpg
http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/7370/dsc0002jbf.jpg
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/6619/dsc0005ys.jpg

got some new markers for fills 2day so had a lil mess around, now i can finish that sucker piece

[Skope2]

The E and R in USER need some work, the styles look different and the middle bar of the E is far too stubby. The E in the second one wouldve fit better. The U and S are on point though. Dont really like the little triangle cuts in the letters either, but thats personal preference.

[toopski]

yeah thx man just messing with some freestyle shit atm think every sketch i do is a different style only thing thats usually the same is my painting

[aaesoo]

http://i52.tinypic.com/vj3pi.jpg
didn't have a ruler so the lines are off some. probably could have used a card or something but fuck it.

[Rasm]

@Toopski, I agree with Skope2's crits for the most part. I don't mind the triangular cuts, but I think that the U is too small compared to the S and is too hidden by the S too. The S overlaps it in two places; you should have made the U overlap it in one of those instead. I guess that's personal preference though. But keep it up, it's looking solid.

@Aeso, man, don't start thinking about symmetry until you get your letters down because it will end up just hindering you. Keep doing simples and once you get some style/structure, then consider doing something symmetrical if you still want. And like you said, a bunch of the lines are off, especially down on the 3D.

[nah!]

http://i52.tinypic.com/vj3pi.jpg
didn't have a ruler so the lines are off some. probably could have used a card or something but fuck it.

don't use a ruler.

[FlatScank]

Tails and a sketch.

[DaFugg]

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/Hatchetwarrior1246/100_3211.jpg
Exchange for SER, sorry it took forever, also looks like shit. top line above the E isn't effect. these shitty sharpie pens blow out a ton

[Rasm]

@FlatScank, I'm digging the tails, but I'd lose the extensions on the F, L and T of the sketch. Or change them at least; for some reason I'm just not feeling them, but then again I can't place my finger on why and I guess it's personal preference. Also I hate seeing that shit you did with the bottom of the A. It's so overplayed and lacks so much originality. Fuck. But for the most part it is a pretty solid sketch and I like your style.

@DaFugg, I'm not loving it but if you keep working with that style, it will start looking good. It's also not your usual word. The E just seems awkward for some reason, and the top part of the S is the only real curved part of the whole thing... well I guess the right part of the R is curved too, but basically it lacks consistency. You made the top of the E and the R match, but the top of the S is completely different, which throws it off a bit.

[DaFugg]

Thanks guys, The curved bars were cause that's something that I feel I need to work on. My next goal is consistency, which seems to get me every time.

[haezr]

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/267/dsc0003yj.jpg
http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/7171/dsc0004ot.jpg


got some new markers for fills 2day so had a lil mess around, now i can finish that sucker piece


The U and the S are bang on, the E from the DE would've fit better, and the R just blows.

[haezr]

http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff442/haezr/2011-06-14111623.jpg

Screwing around, I'm so fucking stuck...
The purple and yellow markers started to fucking bleed, ugh... shitty markers = ftl.

[DaFugg]

I like the last one. I know he's supposed to be a tadpole, but I couldn't help but imagine him having a chainsaw bottom lip. lol, but in all reality your letter structure is crap. start over. Progress.

[Tempo718]

whats up flat, i see your crew spark a lil light of fire in that belly, do your thing! stay wit it.
ummmmm i ono im 2 lazy to go back n comment on all y'all but yesterday was tupac birthday so I put together a piece in memory of his life. here it go. hope you like it.
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[ierkpeople]

http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee433/ierkpeople/IMG-20110616-00039.jpg

[dankbudz]

Tempo- go alott simpler for now
Erk- cant really crit that, but i would work on the E

got bored so i fucked around with these things you call markers...
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/matthew1o/0617111251.jpg
those thin sharpie markers suck dick at keeping a consistent line.

[NouveauP]

Quickie for a friend.
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo20/NouveauP/IMG_0364.jpg

[DaFugg]

I like it. the YC is knda boring but those are tough as it is lol.

[Tempo718]

dank that is sooo good.
I have a hard time with curves n all that. yakno

[ribcage]

Tempo- go alott simpler for now
Erk- cant really crit that, but i would work on the E

got bored so i fucked around with these things you call markers...

those thin sharpie markers suck dick at keeping a consistent line.

fine liner sharpies/Micro tips? you just have to get used to em, you gotta apply the perfect amount of pressure and have a smooth hand. If you push down too hard it fucks em up

@nouv clean as always, C got a lil chubby at the bottom

[Phat 2]

imo it didnt get chubby enough to match the L and E

[ATAK!:3]

25698
spmething i scetched for my crew, crits?

[Ace.K]

Ditch those arrows.

[ribcage]

@atakI really like how you wrote crew and then put an arrow pointing to the letters... lol but uh lose the arrows and extensions for now, and work on straight letters and your handstyles

meh pencil sketches for days, this the next 1 to be worked/fixed and inked, emphasis on the fixing part
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g388/ribcage22/0617111803.jpg

[Tempo718]

thas wassup rib, look a lil different from ur others?

[Tempo718]

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[ribcage]

yeah i guess, looks like my simps mostly, xcept the A and R, I gotta go to work on the E and C, especially the C lol

T to E connection is bad, bar width on the top crossing bar of the T is inconsistent. All your extenisons on this one are bad, but the only ones that have potential are the ones on the E cause their the only ones that make sense. You gotta learn what extensions make sense and what extensions dont make sense(like the one on top of your O and others...). Also you need to learn where to end some of your bars, Like where the 2 bars meet to make the hole in the middle of your P cut that extra part off at the point and make it look flat still but not enlongated ya digg?

[BRER]

@Tempo - rib basically covered everything. your o looks like a d though. It looks really forced. I dont know, just put some music on, smoke some pot or drink something (or both), and just try to go with the flow of the letters, your body, and the music. I don't know lol. Loosen up. Hope that helps.

Exchange for Atak. Tried new style. I definately need better control, so I'm gonna stick to simps for a while. Also really shitty blurry photo (my camera sucks).
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crits welcome.

[Rasm]

dank that is sooo good.Easy there bro, it's really not that good. Not saying it's bad, but it's just extremely simple. Nothing to get hard for.

@Tempo, Man you should go way simpler. Your letter structure is decent at best and you really need to work on your flow before you get carried away with extensions and add-ons.

@Erk, I don't have much to say. It's mostly good but keep working with those letters because it lacks consistency in some places.

@NouveauP, I guess there's a few things here and there that I would tweak, but overall it's pretty tight. Good looks and hopefully Alyce will return the favor somehow. :D

@Atak, Man you need to go back to square one. Go back to doing simples. And I mean extremely simple. Right now your letters are inconsistent and have absolutely no flow. Your bar widths are all different, and the C is almost painful to look at. You should lose the arrows until you are good enough to incorporate them into the piece without overdoing it and actually know how to draw them. Don't worry about connecting your letters; you're not there yet. That's something that will come with time and practice, so keep pounding out simples until you understand the nature and flow of the letters. Once you're that you can start thinking about making it more elaborate.

@Keanu, I've given crits to you before. I like it but I'd make the E bigger and the A smaller. Apart from that it's not bad.

@ribcage, That sketch is looking solid. It has consistency and flow. Color it soon, I want to see the final result.

@Brer, I see mad potential in that sketch, and it's not even your usual word. I'd like to see the finished product if you plan on adding more to it.

[weakfingers]

So many good sketches in this thread,

repost for talking
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2477/5792229313_92a54240aa_b.jpg

[ATAK!:3]

25716 tried tp make it simpler, camera sucks ass, as usual.

[dankbudz]

Atak- you gotta start practicing real simples, like "ATAK", same bar width same height, no extension/connections and er thang. yeah thats a simple, but its pretty weak

[..romero..]

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z241/RAEL_ONE/001-4.jpg


http://youtu.be/94Alq44dGY8

i haven't posted here in a while, some new shit i got to lazy to finish. as always.

[ribcage]

^uuuhhhn thas tight, you pwease do this thread a favor and post more O.o

havent erased pencil yet... boutta beef them lines up and slap some 3d on it and call it a night
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g388/ribcage22/0618112034.jpg

[BigBend]

quick sketch sry bout the 3d just got lazy with it! critts
http://i53.tinypic.com/fvfccw.jpg

[ribcage]

^not too bad, you know how you made a point a flat edge on the top of the left most bar of N(the one thats part of the E) you should do that on the right bottom point of the D

messed up on the E C and H..... I like the letters tho so after i put 3d on ima do this 1 on a different page and color it there instead of wastin colors on theese 1
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g388/ribcage22/0618112335.jpg

[Tempo718]

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[Ace.K]

@Rib - I think the top of the R is kind of off the theme since its sharp when the rest of it is smoother. Just sayin.

[BigBend]

@tempo-go alittle more simple till you get letter structure down
@rib-try and even out ur hard and soft corners to even it out

[Tempo718]

25739
started to fill in the outline wit green got mad and began scribbling all over it before I crumpled it up. then I said o well fuk it. so here leave it as is over there. i need a bite a grub..

[ribcage]

@ace-k i think the C is too round at the top, and thats what doesnt fit

[Iyk]

..

[ATAK!:3]

25743okay going for more keyboard type letters, crits?

[ANRone]

Pretty shit, ran out of space on the R also.
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[Skope2]

Lyk - Go keyboard letters, and try to use bars. (If you dont know what i mean by bars, check out the 'New to graffiti, start here' thread for some quality tips)
ATAK - Those connenctions make the last letter hard to read. For a while I thought it was INI, not INC. Space is your friend.
ANR - Tidy up those outlines and itll look alright.

Struggling to come up with a good T

[Rasm]

@Bend, Not bad at all dude. I'm feeling the letters and the flow. The 3D is pretty off though.

@Rib, The R looked better in the original sketch than in the final result... not sure how that happened. It's got all straight lines at the top and is the only part of your piece like that. You should have rounded it a bit more in places. It's not bad though. If you lowered the top curve of the C a bit to make it match the other letters height-wise, and move the H a tad closer, it would look better.

@Tempo, I'm not going to give you anymore crits after this one unless you go simpler. Your letter structure is no good. Your bar widths are all different. Sometimes that can work if you do it in the right places, but you're not making it work, so go simpler. The bottom connection between the S and the C is terrible looking. You extended the bottom of the S way too much to make it work, and the bottom of the C where it connects isn't good either. Also, lose that extension at the top of the C. It looks bad and is in the wrong place. And o the PJZ one, same thing. You still don't have solid letter structure down, so those connections and extensions don't make it look good. Look at how varied your bar width is too... Go back to super basic letters and NO connections. Also keep practicing your handstyle.

@Lyk, Same thing. Do super basic sketches to get your letter structure down. At least you aren't adding needless connections yet. Those come with time.

@Atak!, Well you went simpler this time which is good. The inside of your N is really hurting and so is your handstyle and 3D in places.

@ANR, It's very basic but it at least has some consistency. This would look sweet as a roller somewhere.

@Debts, just missed yours, but it's definitely the best thing anyone's posted here in the last couple days. The top curve of the B seems a little messed up on its bottom right side where it connects to the bottom curve of the B, but besides that everything's pretty good. The D isn't bad but I think I liked some of the ones from your other sketches a little better. Good work man.

[ierkpeople]

http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee433/ierkpeople/IMG-20110616-00039.jpg
bump for crits

[Jiska Matos]

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/Hatchetwarrior1246/100_3211.jpg
Exchange for SER, sorry it took forever, also looks like shit. top line above the E isn't effect. these shitty sharpie pens blow out a ton

here is your's...hope you like it

[ribcage]

@Rib, The R looked better in the original sketch than in the final result... not sure how that happened. It's got all straight lines at the top and is the only part of your piece like that. You should have rounded it a bit more in places. It's not bad though. If you lowered the top curve of the C a bit to make it match the other letters height-wise, and move the H a tad closer, it would look better.


It like that in the sketch too... But yeah I changed some shit as I was outlining cause thats just how I do... Didnt work out on the C but most of it will look better visually w/ 3d... this is just a scrap piece anyways
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g388/ribcage22/0617111803.jpg

[dankbudz]

outlined and colored this at like 4 am. i got some new bic markers for like 50 cents. shit was caaash.
crit on anything BUT the background haha, its just plain retarded

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/matthew1o/0619111355.jpg

[ribcage]

you should have ended your 3d somewhere, and your R looks like a P then an un proportionate kick out, it looks that way cause the rounded part is a little small, and then instead of having the horizontal bar that starts your right leg go straight out its slanting down... make it straight and itll look better... The BG dont look that bad, if you did that then covered all the remaining white with black itd prolly pop pretty nicely with the lighter colors of your piece

[dankbudz]

thanks for the crits homie
i feel you on the 3d and R, R's have been kilin me and i have slowly been understanding how to work that middle bar.

[Tempo718]

I like that ribs crits are hella detailed he is good at pointing things out that we miss, but I like it dank i thought it was a good one.

[DaFugg]

Hey jiska that's dope man thanks. what kind of marker you using?

[Jiska Matos]

Hey jiska that's dope man thanks. what kind of marker you using?

made this with the 3 markers i bought today, the pink is Molotow 227, and the black and the white are molotow 127

[dankbudz]

ayy, does anyone have any crits/ tips for Y's?
i had to fuck with the image to show the lines better cause i have been fucking with this P and Y to fit for ever and its a bitch.
so tips or anything to help would be appreciated.

im talking about the negative space and shit, is my problem that i put the HAP too close together and the P's and Y just cant get that close?

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/matthew1o/0619111732.jpg

[Rasm]

Fuck. Here's some 10 minute bullshit. I haven't had the time to sketch lately, and it shows.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j89/fearophobia/IMAG0780-1.jpg


Not sure if I dropped this here yet. Says Minor.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j89/fearophobia/minor-1-2.jpg

[Ace.K]

Outline for my Cuore exchange. Crits? Kinda hard to see with shitty phone cam.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p104/skier46/IMG00134-20110619-0011.jpg?t=1308460430

[ribcage]

not too shabby, make the exclamation point 2 seperate parts

well i colored it...
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g388/ribcage22/0619112145.jpg

[dankbudz]

Yo Rasm, by any chance to you frequent GrassCity forums?
Ribcage -thats super fresh, but i think that R could use more work all around.

Letters suck dick, and yes i forgot to put an S in Fathers. I rushed the fuuuck outta the words, took more time on the characters, and couldnt get in a background
Crit the "FATHER" part if anything.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/matthew1o/_MG_3754-1.jpg

[Rasm]

@Ace, that's about as simple as it gets so I don't have much to say but it's pretty good. The bar widths are good except for the right half of the C, and definitely lose the connection in the !

@Reach, looks a little better now that it's done. I think the A might be too wide (especially compared to the E and the C) and I'm not sure if I'm digging the swirls on the bottoms of the A and the H, but it's still pretty good. I still think the top of the R could be more round, and the H and C could be closer, but I can't complain. The colors don't look great together but overall it's solid.

@Dank, I like it dude! In the FATHER, I probably would have extended the leg of the R a little more to match the bottom of the other letters. In the word DAY there might be a little too much space between the DA compared to the AY, but you probably had to squeeze to get the characters in. The bar width on the Y's seem to be a little thinner than the rest, but besides that it's good. The lettering is simple but well-done so it's effective, and the characters are dope. And yeah, I've dropped a few sketches in the graffiti thread over there. You post there ever?

[Tempo718]

av y'all eva made som an after thot...... yo....... whaaaaat tha fuk????
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LOL:confused:

[Ace.K]

Just gonna post it here too. Finished product.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p104/skier46/IMG00137-20110620-0127-1.jpg

[BigBend]

@ace likin it man
@rasm not really feeling the minor piece dont know why just cant point it out right now! but the simp. is looking good bro
Anyway heres a quick sketch i did of a simple!
http://i52.tinypic.com/im6yjs.jpg

[Ace.K]

Thanks bend. I feel as though you could've done more with that B. Given it more flavor or something with the rest of the letters.

[BigBend]

yeah i mean it was really done as a quick simple sketch for a up and go thing not really trying to get complicated on those but will keep ya advise in mind thankx bro!

[Iyk]

The first ones are the initial letters.
I used bars in all of the letters, i also went through the new to graffiti thread and picked up some tips, thanks for that.

[Skope2]

lyk - no no no no no no, those bars and shit are all off. start from scratch, drop ALL of the extensions.

Dont take offense, but your clearly a beginner, which means you have to start from the ground up. that means keyboard letters. I know its boring as fuck and everyone hates keyboard letters, but trust me once youve got the bars and structure down you can start to do proper extensions in the right places and have them look slicker. cause right now that piece looks like dicks.
You want your letters right now looking abit like these, until you can nail them. I couldnt be fucked to do all of them, but you get the idea.

[Rasm]

@Tempo, man you still have zero letter structure. DO SIMPLES.

@Lyk, that's not what people mean by bars man. Listen to Skope and check out the New to Graffiti thread.

@Bend, I like it, but I feel like the D could be changed a bit to match the other letters a little better or something.

[Skope2]

Self crits - The bottom of the S is whack. T is pretty whack. 3D needs more shading but that can be done another time..

[Ace.K]

The top right side of the D could be chunkier, the top of the E could be skinnier. Just my two cents.

[nah!]

http://www.bombingscience.com/graffitiforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=25773&stc=1&d=1308584315

keep the bars the same width

[Skope2]

keep the bars the same width

of course. i just did this in about 5 seconds in paint just as an example.

[nah!]

well you need to do bettter!!!!!!


j/k

[jesussaves]

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/jesussaves-1/IMG_0877.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/jesussaves-1/IMG_0874.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/jesussaves-1/IMG_0872.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/jesussaves-1/IMG_0228.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/jesussaves-1/IMG_0743-1.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/jesussaves-1/IMG_0736.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/jesussaves-1/100_5230.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/jesussaves-1/jsblakbuk2-1.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/jesussaves-1/jsblakbuk.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/jesussaves-1/100_4728.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/jesussaves-1/007-1.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/jesussaves-1/100_3240.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/jesussaves-1/jsblakbuk140-1.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/jesussaves-1/jsblakbuk139.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/jesussaves-1/jsblakbuk143.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/jesussaves-1/jsblakbuk127.jpg
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/jesussaves-1/100_1279.jpg
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/jesussaves-1/100_1281.jpg
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/jesussaves-1/100_1283.jpg
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/jesussaves-1/jsblakbuk134.jpg

[Ace.K]

Post all your pictures in one post from now on. And why are you doing the same piece but with different fills? Branch out more.

[Phat 2]

jesussaves, pull that shit again and I'm banning you for flooding... always gather all your flicks into one post

[Skope2]

Quick biro flik

[BigBend]

@skope likin it but the center of the b could have a space instead of a line to make all the letters match other than that you on the right track
Sketch i did today kinda went alittle wild, but cant learn nuthing unless you try it out so! sry will have colors up soon prismas ran out on me
http://i55.tinypic.com/73c5d5.jpg

[Skope2]

Only bit that looks a bit off is that extension coming up from the bottom of the N. other than that it looks good man, im sure itll look better once its done too.

[Tempo718]

skope killin em. do it up I wana see paint on ur hands. peace

[ribcage]

@skope your D is weak, whats up with all the little oin smooth bar connectons/extensions; Like the top of D and bottom left of D? Top 2 bars of E are bad, the top most one looks like a block/chunk.... Your B is really bad, Top half of it looks like the D and the top half of R. Then in the middle you have two bars just laying on top of eachother.... Your T is fine, and the bottom half of your R is fine. You got the right idea for the top of the R i guess, but its shape dont work atm, you gotta work it more until its propportionate, and the extension on the bottom left of R is bad as well

[Rasm]

Here's some quick shit. I'm going to fix it up a little before putting the 3D on and coloring it. CRITS?

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j89/fearophobia/pabstquickie-2.jpg

[Iyk]

Obviously rushed the shit out of this, but the point being, is this what your asking me to aim at for now, basic lettering, keyboard etc.

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[Skope2]

@ribcage cheers for crits man. took it into account and quickly came up with this earlier. going to stop posting shit up here after this and just get on with it for a week or two.
the D didnt come out how i hoped
@lyk yea sort of.. i took a picture of this one before rubbing shit out so you know what i mean by bars.2587625877

[FlatScank]

some sketchs for weekend paint sessions.25881258822588325885

[Ace.K]

You must just get your char's from google because those stances are so generic for all of them.

[FlatScank]

they are simple stances, I do get references from google though.

[ribcage]

just a reference though right?
http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/and-then-what/Wile-E-Coyote.jpg

[Ace.K]

Yeah, just a ref.

http://images.wikia.com/fairlyoddparents/en/images/2/2f/FairlyOddParents_Cosmo_01.jpg
http://www.screenhead.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/marvin-the-martian.gif

[FlatScank]

obviously it's easier to do a free-hand from looking a picture, but it's harder to pull it off in paint, plus, hardly anyone here actually paints *Ace,Reach*, atleast I can pull off the characters when actually painting.

[Ace.K]

You're doing legal pieces, anyone can do characters just fine when you have all the time in the world dip shit. And there's no point in me saying that I do paint because you can just call me a liar because this is the fucking internet. When really, I do go bombing. I just don't post everything I do on here to try to get some recognition like an attention wanting teenage girl.

I like that piece dude, but don't talk shit about people you don't know about.

[FlatScank]

You're doing legal pieces, anyone can do characters just fine when you have all the time in the world dip shit. And there's no point in me saying that I do paint because you can just call me a liar because this is the fucking internet. When really, I do go bombing. I just don't post everything I do on here to try to get some recognition like an attention wanting teenage girl.

I like that piece dude, but don't talk shit about people you don't know about.

I do some illegal burners, don't post them though, only shit I do have all the time in the world to do, doesn't help that I'm a foreigner in the country I'm currently in.

[SHUT]

Simple.25903

[Ace.K]

Good, I hope you do. Just don't use those wack characters from google. If you can draw them doing something new and original, cool. Don't bite those pictures.

[SHUT]

Thanks. I feel this looked much better in person. lol

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[SHUT]

Don't know how I feel about these. pencil sketches.

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[Rasm]

Post sketches and crits or shut the fuck up faggots.
@Kasr, you've got a variety of styles going. In that blue and brown simp, your letter structure isn't the greatest. The A is actually decent, but I'm definitely not feeling the right half of the K or the S. Also try not to vary your bar width too much. The top and bottom halves of the R don't seem to line up on the left side near the S. And the blue 3D on the R is much longer than the brown 3D on the rest of the letters.
The sketch below it (also brown and blue) doesn't have consistent bar width either, especially in the S. If the A and the R were next to each other it would flow, but the S sort of kills it. I'm not really feeling all the zigzags either in the bottom right parts of the K, A, and R. Also instead of just throwing a triangle in the middle of the A, actually line it up with the bars.
In the first pencil sketch your letters are all over the place with tons of varied bar widths. This one's hard to crit because it's way too wild for your skill level right now. Take a step back.
The second pencil sketch is some of the best work I've seen from you. The A is a little odd but besides that it's mostly good. This is definitely a style that you should keep pushing.
The last one looks cool at first glance, but upon further inspection it becomes clear that it lacks letter structure. This is a style that could be good with practice but you need better letters before it's going to work.

[Rezume_or_die]

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[dankbudz]

Rezume- try working on that M, and that arrow on the left is kinda random. thats a dope character

crits?
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/matthew1o/0622111958.jpg

[BillBonham]

Whats up everyone, I'm new to graffiti, haven't chosen a name yet so here's some random shit I drew this week.
Give me your criticism.
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[BillBonham]

Thanks a lot man I really appreciate that.

First one says: Teckno
Second one: KASM (4 letters I thought were cool)
Third one: Booty Warrior from The Boondocks

[SHUT]

ok. Well, make sure you seperate the "T" and "E" on the first one. the second one looks like LASM more than KASM you have no top right line for the K. The character is sick man. If you clean up a few things with the arrangement you should try posting in the regular blackbook thread. Better crits there. and post the character in the character thread. you'll get props.

ok, i just looked at your KASM one again. i see it now. but make the left of the K larger.

[TastyMcNasty]

bill- clearly you have drawing skills, because that charac is dope as fuck!!!!!! but your letters need to be simpler for now. so look at what dankbudz is doing and start from there, the gradually work your way up friend. and once again that character is sooooooooo sick

[BillBonham]

Ok thanks for the advice guys. If I'm not busy tomorrow I'll draw up some new shit that puts what you guys said into use. As for the character I can't take all the credit as I didn't invent him, I just drew him, but thanks a lot :)

[Shroomsh]

rushed sketch for some wardrobe or something im painting, reads brianna, not fussed if you can see all the letters, dont lie if you cant, cos im still trying to work it out myself
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[Shroomsh]

woah, why so fucking big?

[EWL24]

@dankbudz looking good as usual
@Shroomsh sorry man but after the BRI i cant make out any letter, i think u should make it a little more legible

did this yesterday, trying to work on bar width and letter structure. crits please
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[SHUT]

Ehhhh. R is absolutely terrible. Not sure what I was thinking. lol

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[BillBonham]

Practice before bed. Best letters? Shittiest letters?
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[TastyMcNasty]

^^^ yes, keep that up!!!

[SHUT]

Nice. Only thing is the a should be a point to a flat top, instead of rounded. Otherwise, This is good. I think I'm going to do this tomorrow. I seriously need to start at basics again. I'll follow the path to good graff with you friend:D

[SHUT]

Simple practice. I realized that the hole in the R should have been different once I uploaded it and I'm too tired to fix it. Last flick for the night. Night everyone.

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[arsebanditskaelsucker]

-dope ninja n like the letters rezume
-Good shit bill! :)
-shut cracking characters in the other thread matey! not so sure bout your r in the pink one either and the little bar in the a and the tiny hole in the r and the one end of the s being straight and the other end being curled suck on the one above for me :) think am just being picky lol
will crit a bit more n post some of my newer shit up cuz i needs help with my letters too as they suck big fat hairy cockend! lol

[SHUT]

Thanks. I'm decent with characters, thats why I want to make my letter structure better. S is a little thin and the top of the R is a little big.


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[Rasm]

Shut, the left side of your A is very fucked up as well. The bottom right part of the K, the bottom of the S are bad. That extensions goes nowhere... The top of your R is huge. Go simpler dude. You still really lack structure.

[TheBombersDream]

SHUT. - Looks good man. You are right about the R, but no biggie. Stay up!

[smack1one]

anything to fix??26055

[Ace.K]

The H. Capitalize it.

[Rasm]

@Charm, the lowercase H doesn't help the flow at all. The Bars of the A should probably slant in towards each other instead of just being vertical; it would look less blocky and help you develop your style better. The right side of the R is bad where you have that small line separating the top and bottom halves. The 3D is mostly good besides the top of the M where it's slightly off, but it seems like you understand the concept of it. I'd personally narrow your bars a bit and try to get away from the big block letters.

Just keep doing simples and you'll eventually develop your own style and flare. Don't start getting fancy before you have your letters down. You'll just end up going overboard, and it might look cool to a toy or a non-writer, but experienced writers will immediately recognize the lack of letter structure, flow, and consistency. That's why it's so important to start simple and go on the track that dankbudz is on. Once you understand the letters better, you'll know what looks good and what is off.

[Shroomsh]

ahah i didnt want it to be legible, its not for bombing, its a sketch for an abstract piece, and the people who dont write are only into unreadable art so its the best way to get decent pay

[Rasm]

ahah i didnt want it to be legible, its not for bombing, its a sketch for an abstract piece, and the people who dont write are only into unreadable art so its the best way to get decent payYeah tell me about it. Sometimes when I'm drawing something for someone I'm tempted to make it a weak piece that "looks cool" because people who don't write never understand what makes graffiti good. I liked it though; I could make out almost all of the letters, although I'm not sure if I'm 100% right or not with my guess haha. Either way it's good art. Props.

[Shroomsh]

cheers bro, i also think that if you cant do simples then you shouldnt attempt pieces that 'looks cool'. because thats what all the new kids do, and it just looks disgusting.

where you from Rasm, a bloke who lives down my area writes rasm or rasmo.

[toopski]

http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/258/dsc0002pd.jpg
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/1191/dsc0001wre.jpg

found out one of my best mates brothers writes user went out writing with him a couple nites back so i thought fuck it n changes a letter

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3980/dsc0003ch.jpg

[Shroomsh]

Feature wall idea for a bedroom
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[MakeHate]

havent done too much piecing..all critz are highly appreciated trying to get better
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[Tempo718]

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[Phat 2]

shroomsh wtf is that son, I hope you're not planning on telling us there's letters in there

[Shroomsh]

aaha phat, it was gonna be an alphabet, but then i got cooked, so its just shapes, i think i can see an "s" an "a" and a "c" but yeah, i was baked

[toopski]

i see a m s a g c e n and a w

[Rasm]

@Shroomish, I managed to find all of them up to T last night, although it gets tricky around G.

@Outs, man you're not nearly good enough to be adding connections and extensions yet, so drop them. Go back to simple pieces and read the last several pages of this thread to see what I mean. You have no letter structure yet, your bar widths are all different, and your letter widths are bad too. Your O and S are wide but your U and T are very skinny. Also lose the bottom of the T. I hate that shape because I see it everywhere now. Don't tell me you came up with that yourself... it's so overplayed an unoriginal. Also drop the spirals. And the bottom of the S is too low.. make sure to keep the tops and bottoms of your letters lined up. Also your 3D might look better if it ended somewhere, but that's personal preference. Start doing keyboard letters until further notice.

@Tempo, you finally posted something simpler and it looks much better.

[Ace.K]

Exchange with Lsd.

Self crits: downslope on top and the K is too far away from the other letters. Its pretty much wack none the less.
Anything else?

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p104/skier46/IMG00141-20110625-1519.jpg?t=1309033267

[sir.to.you.]

havnt been in the book for a while
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5280/5870265443_784679fa84_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58969092@N06/5870265443/)
Photo 241 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58969092@N06/5870265443/) by ripmb (http://www.flickr.com/people/58969092@N06/), on Flickr

[upper90daynnight]

hey bro what do u use for those white accent lines?

[sir.to.you.]

deco mah nigglit

[wer2chosen]

One quick question, sorry if this is the wrong place. I am so new, I am a happy meal toy, LOL

How do I keep my blackbook from bleeding through. When I see pics of others it looks like every page is covered. Do you put acrylic paint on the pages. When I work on a new design, the next 2 pages are crap to work on. I am using sharpies perm, paint and ad markers. Thanks for any help getting started.

[dankbudz]

theres a thread called TOY QUESTIONS
anyway, put a piece of scrap paper behind what your coloring. ive never needed more then one to stop from bleeding to the next page.

bored and did some simple the other day. ive been way too lazy
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/matthew1o/0625112234a.jpg

[.Cuore]

Exchange with Lsd.

Self crits: downslope on top and the K is too far away from the other letters. Its pretty much wack none the less.
Anything else?

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p104/skier46/IMG00141-20110625-1519.jpg?t=1309033267

yeah, lol it's a waste of ink. you didnt need to color the whole paper outside of the outline lol. realtalk, i'd fix the S.

[ribcage]

that looks pretty cool, color the letters.

@shrooms you do oxi breh?

@toopski your R's be buggin the shit out of me bro, that first U up ther is dope tho

[SHUT]

I know! I should do simples. I was bored:P Couldn't fit the R.

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[Shroomsh]

tbh, i like your work shut, and nah just weed :)

[Rasm]

Not even shrooms? They're in your name AND they're fun!

@AceK, man you still don't have your letter structure down yet. I'd go a little simpler and lose some of the curves that you have in your piece until you know where to put them / how they should form better. Also, that N is pretty hard on the eyes.

@Shut, yeah you should go simpler and there are a few things wrong with that sketch, but it's not too shabby overall. There's a decent amount of structure in there and some flow to it too. Keep it up.

[dave the pirate]

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[TastyMcNasty]

nark that is bangin, i think the bottom right extension of the R should be thicker tho.

KIDS!!!!

[dave the pirate]

KIDS look closely at the n its a n and a all in one ;)

[Tempo718]

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[Rasm]

Nark, that's dope man. Props.
Tempo, that's painful to look at man. The letters make me want to cry and the fill makes the letters look good. Being nice is overrated. But seriously, don't worry about connecting the letters or adding extensions until you start to understand the way the letters work.

Here's some unfinished shit. Any crits before I throw the 3D on? I might fix up the D a little and maybe change the second A. Says LANDA
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j89/fearophobia/IMAG0832-1-1.jpg

Here's something from the other day; also unfinished. Bumping for crits. Says PABST, as in delicious PBR.
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j89/fearophobia/pabstquickie-2.jpg

Both are a simple style I do when I'm lazy.. ha

[BigBend]

@tempo yeah man i would go way simpler till u got that down and understand how flow works in a piece!
@rasm really feeling the second one looks good but somthing bout the first one just doesnt look right idk.
anyway got bored last night a drew up the new throw! says bend
http://i56.tinypic.com/sxly5k.jpg

[toopski]

that looks pretty cool, color the letters.

@shrooms you do oxi breh?

@toopski your R's be buggin the shit out of me bro, that first U up ther is dope tho

yeah i always cbf when i get to the R might true something different or even true the style i used to write with

[dankbudz]

out line for exchange with Soar
fucking hand shook like 5 times. fucked the S. and the R is fucked. goddddddddaaamn
far from perfect so hit me with crits.
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/matthew1o/0626111713.jpg

[Rasm]

Dank, I'm not really feeling any of the spiral connections on the S, A, or R, especially not the one on the A. And that extension in the middle of the O seems random and unnecessary... it doesn't really connect to the rest of the O well either. The one on the top doesn't do much to help the sketch either.

[dankbudz]

thanks for the crits homie, you got just about everything, except how the right leg on the R is pretty weak.
to be honest i dont like it at all. I wish i did something different with the middle of the O. I just wanted to fuck around with different thaangs, i agree it would have looked alot better simpled outt. fuck it. haha

[Rasm]

Well you said you thought the R was bad so I didn't really mention it. The right leg isn't that great and the top of it is a little unproportional. I would have made it one round curve instead of a mix of curves and straight segments. And I can tell where your hand got a little shaky on the R and the S especially, but it's nothing too major. Put a dark 3D on it and you could smooth it out a little.

[dankbudz]

word, i was planning on that. i might even just do another sketch above it and improve upon this.

[REDjacket]

@dankbudz i really like that soar outline!!

[REDjacket]

Not very good both were done in about 30mins Crits please! 2629726298

[Rasm]

Normally you fuckers should be giving crits to get crits, but I'll crits you anyways.

@Graff2k11, one's a painted throwie which doesn't belong here. On the other one, your S is leaning way to the left but the other letters aren't tilted at all. Make sure you keep consistent bar widths, and why the hell is the N twice as big as the other letters? There's not much flow in your sketch at all.
EDIT: Why'd you delete that shit?

@Redjacket, man sage is a word that's been used a lot but oh well. AYou should go simpler and lose the connections. That first sketch has an S that's twice as wide as any other letter and the bar widths are not consistent. The bars on the E and G are very narrow compared to the bars on the A. On the second sketch make sure you line up the bottoms of your letters better. The E is elevated a lot compared to the other letters. It's also terrible looking, which is why you should go back to basics and not worry about connections and extensions yet. The S is almost completely curved, and all the other letters have nothing but straight lines. Focus on consistency.


Well here's something quick and trashy because I'm lazy;, clocked at just under 4 minutes. Says SPAR.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j89/fearophobia/spar.jpg

And some more ugly bullshit

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j89/fearophobia/IMAG0851.jpg

[TastyMcNasty]

.
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for SEDER

[dankbudz]

redjacket- thanks bro. and for yours i would practice giving your words a baseline so the are on the same level. and do more work on simples, dont add all those bars in the G and C, do them rounded where need to be. and once you get that down you can fuck around with it a bit more. the simpler the better, and simples pay off.

Rasm- That RASM one would look dooope if you connect those parts on teh R and A, and work on the tops of them. And lost that lower extension on the S and lowered the M and lost that weird extension on its bottom.

[TastyMcNasty]

^^^lol did you ignore the piece i just posted? hahah because it is for you

[dankbudz]

nah, i missed it, it wasnt there when i posted. BUt im liking that first S, minus extensions and E. i woulda made them the same E. but shit, when your fucked up you do your own thing, i know how it is hahah.

[TastyMcNasty]

haha ya man its pre fucked. just tell me if you want another one ill get on it

[dankbudz]

do what you want maaane, if you got the time id love to see another, but whatevers good

[TastyMcNasty]

aight, if i catch the time i got you

[BigBend]

quick sketch piece says bend2
http://i55.tinypic.com/2132gec.jpg

[ribcage]

tbh, i like your work shut, and nah just weed :)

oooo well usually saying your "cooked" means you just smoked oxi... maybe its just where im from...

[Urbanosity Ltd.]

big ben's is orgasmic, what are you doing in the toy sectionn?

[pointman]

did this a few weeks back for my friend in collage haha
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[BigBend]

@urb thankx bro just trying new shit!

[One Evil]

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BUMP looks tight! love the style

[Graff2k11]

http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o411/tcoley13/IMG955529.jpg

[upper90daynnight]

alright work on ur letters they are all crooked and mad shaky, and dont put ur tags inside the letters it just doesnt work

[Rasm]

Hoen, work on your bar widths and keep your lines straight. And what the fuck is up with the inside of the O?

[dankbudz]

Pointman- that fresh, im diggin that train. try working on perspectives though, the verticle lines on the windows should follow those of the bus.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/matthew1o/0627111739.jpg

[EWL24]

@pointman that train is sick but like dankbudz said work on perspective more, cause right now the side of of the train looks wierd, you have to make the side get smaller as it gets further away

[upper90daynnight]

hey dank was that picture tooken a little bit on an angle or straight on?

[dankbudz]

a bit of an angle, didnt want my shadow over the picture.

[Rasm]

"Tooken" haha
@Seder, Not too bad. The angle throws off the letter widths a little bit; the S looks rather wide there. And the R isn't that smooth but it's pretty solid overall.

[dankbudz]

^^
i loled at that too

and thanks bra, the S and R were the weaker letters. i didnt even fully sketch the R out, got too lazy. Imma post some of these completed next week once i get markers again.

[sir.to.you.]

stupid fuckin s i dont know why i did it.crits pleazzzzze
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5196/5879381013_ac6d64bdf6_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58969092@N06/5879381013/)
Photo 224 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58969092@N06/5879381013/) by ripmb (http://www.flickr.com/people/58969092@N06/), on Flickr

[Rasm]

Go more simple. Does it say EOS? Your extensions are bad and so is the arrow placement. If the small extension towards the bottom right side of the E has 3D, then shouldn't the entire bottom of the letter have it too? Also the 3D on the middle bar should end somewhere. Make sure the length of the 3D is consistent too. The top of the S is lower than the other letters, and the bottom is higher. Try to keep them all the same height for now. But yeah, go simpler until you have more letter structure.

[DaFugg]

SED, Your letter structure is pretty good but I think if you're gonna write with an R you should work on it a bit, you often make them a bit top heavy. I don't think the tops are too big, I think the bottom is too small but your stuff is clean man.
Sir.To.You, your style is pretty original, but work on your letters and consistency like RASM said. I can't read whatever the fuck it is you wrote.

[arsebanditskaelsucker]

sir- i think the bit on the top hole on the s really doesn't help along with the little arrow out the bottom of it, i do like the letters themselves though i just think those bits and the other extensions are kinda more of a distraction than a positive on it, however the light red 3d looks quite tight good choice of colour with the black outline

[pointman]

SED- just been seing you're sketches alot lately, be good seeing you try something risky i think you have the structure down now
Basic trackside idea probably chrome and black with a yellow forcefeild
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[arsebanditskaelsucker]

point- defo getting nicer :) think the U is a bit small and the L is a bit sqwished and not quite fat enough but meh!, i'm just nit picking
need to get back into doing letters...trying to keep it plain right now....
http://img38.picoodle.com/i56s/potts/16fp_182_u905z.jpg (http://i.picoodle.com/03eie669)

[dankbudz]

pointman- that 2 letter throw looks dope, i would add drop shadow on the right of the L though
Assbanditkid...- those pointy ends look pretty gay, make em the same size, and the top of the R looks pretty funky

quickie outline, gunna bust a few more of these out in a bit.
self crits- everyletter has a bit of retard to it. lol
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/matthew1o/0628111736.jpg

[upper90daynnight]

The S and the first E and the R are dope work on ur D

[arsebanditskaelsucker]

cheers danks, loving the self crit :) only thing i think on that seder is the top of the s and the e i just don't like it so much as the other e has lots of space, n the r leg is a bit funky like the top of my r lol but it is pretty dammnn clean though :)

[dankbudz]

thanks for the crits bros. imma sketch another one out in a little bit, gunna spend a bit more time on it.

[upper90daynnight]

hey im really feeling the 1st one crits please ima outline the 1st one later263802638126382

[dankbudz]

1st one- i would loose all them connections and make the N like "N" with steeeze. and take the extensions off the E and do work on it.
2nd- that flower is dope
3rd-thats a nice simple, digging th colors. the L, E, and R is a pretty weak. you are making your E's have too many bars. and that R shouldnt have that retard bend to it, ya dig? practice them simps homie!

[Rasm]

@Glums, that two letter throw is dope. As for the piece, I feel like the way you have the legs of the M go outwards kills the flow a little bit. The M and the S are huge compared to the first 3 letters... watch for those bar widths. Other than that your shit is tight, and would look nice near some tracks.

@ER, like dank said, if you made the points on the bottom right side of the letters consistent, it could look dope. Also the underline doesn't look great because the width of it varies in the wrong places.

@Seder, your E's would look better if you made the bottom bar the same angle for both of them. The second one is too narrow because the bar is too steep. The D needs some help, but the R looks better than others that I've seen from you. You're definitely on a good path though.

@Went, #1 has pretty decent letter structure, but the W doesn't flow with the rest of the piece. Try making it taller and possibly making the two middle diagonal lines go higher or something. Even with the 3D there, there's still a lot of dead space. Keep working on the letters though; they're not bad but the E could use work and the N isn't super original either.
#2 is kind of blurry and is hard to read. The flow seems better and the flower is dope, but the extensions are bad. Also the D is both too high and too tall.
#3 needs some help too. The letters are really not that great... especially the E, A, R, and D. And the other letters are decent. Dank is right though, take his advice on this one. Some of your letters have too many bars and should be much simpler. And the L isn't great but for some reason I don't mind it. Also your handstyle needs tons and tons of work.

[upper90daynnight]

alright thanks bro will do, what do u use for an thin black out liner for ur stuff? the lines look consistent and smooth

thanks rasm, and ill work on my handstyle, ive been using the name pure, but my parents found out so i need to change my name or if the see my stuff theyll flip, would "went" be a decent name?

[dankbudz]

i either use them sharpie pens or a fine tip sharpie. the fine tips sharpie marker bleeds more though so i tend to not use it as much.

[sir.to.you.]

SED, Your letter structure is pretty good but I think if you're gonna write with an R you should work on it a bit, you often make them a bit top heavy. I don't think the tops are too big, I think the bottom is too small but your stuff is clean man.
Sir.To.You, your style is pretty original, but work on your letters and consistency like RASM said. I can't read whatever the fuck it is you wrote.
it says EOS didnt feel like fuckin with the T and writin teos

[Rasm]

I've been doing nothing but giving crits lately, so I'll drop a sketch. Made this for a friend to give to his friend, ha.
Still needs some minor adjustments. CRITS?

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j89/fearophobia/yol332.jpg

Edit: made some changes to it, but I'll flick it again in the morning if I remember.

[One Evil]

jus some shit im messin wit right now.. still have to clean it up a bit and fix some bars n wat not then colour it and outline.
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t58/cror_oe/DSC_0843.jpg

[One Evil]

I've been doing nothing but giving crits lately, so I'll drop a sketch. Made this for a friend to give to his friend, ha.
Still needs some minor adjustments. CRITS?

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j89/fearophobia/yol332.jpg

Edit: made some changes to it, but I'll flick it again in the morning if I remember.

feeling this dude! for sure keep that up and it will become a sick style.. maybe rock them trains once u get that shit :)

[DaFugg]

it says EOS didnt feel like fuckin with the T and writin teos
Kinda looks like EAS with the E's extension. Anyways, Sed, I got bored. did your name to try to show you what I mean with the R. Afterall, I think I fucked the entire thing up lol 26417

[One Evil]

your right^ you are way off on helping him brotha :P to the real seder.. keep doin what ur doing.. try bending them into rounded letters instead of so blocky ya kno :) keep sketching

[ribcage]

@rasm that Y is steazy breh, the D and last A are super weak compared to the rest, they have no flavor

@dank yo your right each of those letters turned out retarded lol. Smooth trasitions bro, thats what you need to work on. On your good simps what made em good was the cleanliness i.e. bars matched up to each other and shit. Now when your adding extensions and all that you need to do the same. An extension is exactly how it sounds an extension, not just another chunk thrown onto a letter. Make sure your extenisons and bends of the letters make sense and keep consistancy. The shape of your R at the top where it bends is off, and it makes a huge difference to how the letter looks... apply that to the rest of your letters and think smooth,Take your time when you outline and the width of your bars will be better, and if you thicken them lines it will help tremendously, even tho it can be time consuming after a while it wont take long.

@oneevil more arrows

[One Evil]

@oneevil more arrows

iunno if that was real talk or jokes but kk lol

[dankbudz]

Dafugg- try and go simpler with your pieces, no extesions and stuff till you get them down smooth. then start trying to add them on.
also avoid things like you did with the R, the leg that went over the whole piece. but nice on them rasta colors man

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/matthew1o/0629111837.jpg
i feel like i need to fix the bottom and top of the S a bit. are they extensions on the E's lookin good or wack? and what about the connections on the E to D, E to R? I dont like the S i feel like its too curvy and shit

[arsebanditskaelsucker]

nice danks :) defo the s like you said but still clean as fuck
quite like that hork too...not to sure bout the t arrow going across the middle of the o tho :)
da fugg.... loving the colour scheme its mental just the s is a bit sqwished :)
think am just nit picking again though mostly....post some more shit up soon kiddies! :)

[One Evil]

yeah Os get annoying after awhile, thanks for the crits.. any is welcome if its real criticism not no hate crime shit haha :P
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[sir.to.you.]

unfinished and dont really even want to cuz i fucked up. but i switched the EO whats up wit it?
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5153/5886215425_62e1b3e23b_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58969092@N06/5886215425/)
DSCF1132 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58969092@N06/5886215425/) by ripmb (http://www.flickr.com/people/58969092@N06/), on Flickr

[Ace.K]

It seems like each letter is just doing its own thing and isnt keeping at one theme. Know what i'm sayin?

[sir.to.you.]

yea i feel you i noticed that right as i painted it, shits booty

[Rasm]

@Hork,You need to lose a lot of those extensions and arrows. The extension off the bottom of the H is especially bad, and the arrows off the tops of the H, O, and R are too forced and don't flow well with the piece. You seem to have a decent understanding of the letters but some adjustments do need to be made. Try pushing the R closer to the O and losing the arrow in between. I kind of like the extension off the bottom of the K but it doesn't work in this sketch. It's a little too big and goes too low. It seems like the sketch is angled diagonally up but then the K is completely flat and doesn't go with the rest. Keep it up, your shit isn't bad and it's definitely coming along. Thanks for the kind words by the way!

@DaFugg, Man you really fucked that Seder sketch up. The letters are trash and that extension off the R that goes along the top of the whole thing is quite terrible. It's obvious that you spent barely any time on it at all... the letters don't flow well and they're definitely not your best.

@Seder, You've been adjusting your R's a lot lately and they're starting to form nicely. I still don't know how I feel about the bottom bars on your E's but the extensions at the top are alright, partly because they're too small to throw the piece off. I don't really love the S either. It's mostly round at the top and then very straight at the bottom. You might want to try flipping it and playing around and see if you find something you like better.

@Toes, Like AceK said your piece has no flow or consistency. For now, lose the shit between the O and the E, and the E and the S, and make all the letters separate. Like I said last time, GO SIMPLE. The E is also too small, especially compared to the T. The top of the S is all fucked up (watch your bar widths) and for now you should lose that tiny extension you put on the lower end of the S and learn to make it look good on its own. That kind of shit comes with time.


Now it's my turn. I posted this the other day but I fixed a few things up since then. It still needs work but I'll probably re-do it on a separate page.
CRITS?

http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/8527/imag086511.jpg

[.Cuore]

No crits... that's quailty in my book.

[DaFugg]

@DaFugg, Man you really fucked that Seder sketch up. The letters are trash and that extension off the R that goes along the top of the whole thing is quite terrible. It's obvious that you spent barely any time on it at all... the letters don't flow well and they're definitely not your best.


Totally agree, but I know what I did WRONG lol. You guys got any suggestions though? I'm gonna trash the idea I had going with the R because it obviously didn't work, no hurt in trying though.

[DaFugg]

26458 My Sons initials, (due sept 17th). Some Self crits; I don't like how far my C was, . 3D is shit. My letters are still in a process to be perfected.

[Ace.K]

Good bar width mostly. The J seems a bit lower than A and C.

[Rasm]

No crits... that's quailty in my book.Wow man, thanks!


Totally agree, but I know what I did WRONG lol. You guys got any suggestions though? I'm gonna trash the idea I had going with the R because it obviously didn't work, no hurt in trying though.Nah don't trash the idea you had going with the R; work with it. You have the R leaning to the left, and since it's bottom-heavy, the top of the R looks even less proportional and doesn't go nearly as far to the right as the bottom. So, adjust the top of the R to account for it. Here's a bunch of R's I just drew real quick for you to get some inspiration from. They're not that great because it's 2:30 in the morning and I rushed them.

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/5641/ahshj.jpg

As far as the rest of the sketch, I wouldn't have the top part of the S overlap the middle bar. That middle bar should take priority and have the top tucked behind it. Also I wouldn't let that bottom bar go so far up to the left. With the E's, the extensions on the top could work if you make them a nice consistent shape and size, and put them at the right angle. As for the bottom extension, I would just drop it completely. The D isn't anything special, it's just triangular and the bottom is unfinished. I'd drop the two small extensions at the top because they're doing nothing but crowding the piece. Just take your time with your lines and keep your curves smooth and clean, and your shit will start looking much better soon.

[dankbudz]

dafugg- that 3d aint that bad, i like the angle of it. and for crits, i would raise the J up, and thicken the left bar of the A, and im not really feeling how far that extension goes. and like you said push that C in.

[DaFugg]

Thanks, that was pretty helpful.
I see what you mean about that J Acek, I think the highest point is the same height but I struggle with T's and J's. they'll come around.

[dankbudz]

dafugg- also bro, i would connect the verticle bar fully to the top horizonal bar. and dont slant the vert. bar so much. but keep it steezy

[DaFugg]

Not feeling the tilt on the second pic, I do ike the background you got on it though a lot. Bar width seems to change on every line and it's not consistent. But it's got style.

Thanks for the crits Dank. I really like my A, I keep working on it, but I always go back to it. I don't know why, it's so generic.

[dankbudz]

Evow, second one is pretty bunk, first one is pretty decent, first half is good in my mind aha
Dafugg, yeah i do that shit too, i willl like how i did a letter and i come back to it always. but even though i do that myself, i feel like you shouldnt do it, or at least experiment with it. so you dont get stuck on one style for that letter.

[FAR]

26465

the r is bad, i know. critics?

[Phillip McDougall]

I'd like to see that painted, but bring the hole in the R a little lower, and make the bars on the F the same thickness as the A, as well as the R

[b SQUARED 08]

http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/8527/imag086511.jpg
Take notes kids, this is mint aside from the overlapping lines on the Y and A. Nice work man.

Did this for a friend yesterday for some free sketches I've been doing for practice on FB. Crits/ comments appreciated.
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj168/Griffery0508/Photo48.jpg

[Rasm]

@Dafugg, on that AJC one, make sure you keep your bar widths the same. Raise that horizontal bar on the J up a little bit and try experimenting making the bottom of the J similar to how you made the bottom of the C, just facing the other direction of course. And push both letters closer to the J, especially the C which is very far away. Also, make the C a bit wider to match the width of the A and J. And for that bottom extension on the C, don't have it get wider as it goes out; keep it the same width. For now anyways. Once you get the hang of it and know what looks good, you can experiment with different bar widths. You'll be able to feel what's good as your drawing it once you get to that level.

@Evow, not too bad man. On that top one, try keeping your bar widths on the top and bottom horizontal bars of the E's the same; otherwise the inconsistency makes them look awkward. As for the second one, the tilt isn't bad if you know how to make it work. I feel like the 3D on the inside of the E should end somewhere. It would probably look better if the entire inside wasn't black. Also, the varying bar widths isn't a bad thing either, just make sure that they're changing at consistent angles, ya feel me? It will be much more aesthetically pleasing that way.

@Far, man keep your bar widths consistent. I always end up saying the same things when giving crits in this thread. The F has the widest bars, then the R, then the A, which is definitely not working. Also I wouldn't just move the hole inside the R down because then it won't line up correctly and it will look bad. Also watch out for that extension on the top of the R... where is it coming from? It should probably line up with the top of the curved part of the R, right? As for the drop shadow, the entire inside it shouldn't be black, there should be some white spots, especially below the F, between the legs of the A, and same with the R.

@B Squared, thanks for the kind words man, and I'm going to have to give you some too, because that's the best thing on this page. Kids, take note of this guy too because his bar widths are indeed changing, but for the most part they're changing in the right ways and places. Especially that bottom right leg of the K. For crits, I might have made the top right point of the Y a little wider... maybe the same width as the top edge of the top diagonal bar of the K. Besides that I can't say much, it's pretty good all around. I'm digging the L and the super clean fill. Kayla better return the favor.

EDIT:
Alright, not sure how I feel about this one. Didn't decide what word to write until I was halfway done with the T. Says STAR.

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1077/imag0873.jpg

CRITS?

[dankbudz]

squared- thats mad fresh, i like how you colored that ish
rasm- i would of leveled out the top of the T more and not done the full pointed end on the left. for the A i feel if the left bar was turned the other way, and the middle bar was regular it would look more solid, and the right squiggle part of the R make that straight.

self crits: I like the S, but it needs work in the fact its kind of distant, but i might just remove connections next time.
2nd E is too slanted right, if it was more left it would fix the fact the S is far away. And my R is just really stiff, im still trying to figure out how to manipulate it how i want. but the horizonal bar is killin me!
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/matthew1o/0630111827.jpg

[Messer]

some nice stuff going on hereeeeee...
havent sketched in a while, trying to get back into it :
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p157/best-BTK/PICT0098.jpg
i hate this, tried some thing new, didnt work:
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p157/best-BTK/PICT0097.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p157/best-BTK/PICT0092.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p157/best-BTK/PICT0090.jpg

[Rasm]

You should probably read the last few pages of this thread and go back to bars. Work with those for a while until you have some letter structure.

This thread's been slow lately.
Here's a bump.

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/4551/imag0879t.jpg

[ribcage]

why the fuck yall callin errbody kids? Thats fuckin retarded, dont adress everybody as kids when theres obviously people who arent...

anyways
@rasm that STAR piece is fugly S is bad, top bar if T is bad cause the width is fucked up, your playing out that A a little cause you use it on everything, and that extension on the top of your R is super wack. as fir this 1^ the bar widths are killing me and that handy in the O is turrible

@sed yo break away from that style and try something different, then go back to it if you really want. You keep slanting that bar that makes the right leg of R, make it come straight out and it will help it visually

[upper90daynnight]

Hey heres some pencil sketches ima outline the one with the halo and i got another devil themed one that says unpure ill post that in a sec crits please! thanks
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26531

[upper90daynnight]

26532
heres the devil themed one which ill clean up and repost later

[Rasm]

I know that Star piece is super whack, I almost didn't even post it to be honest. The ST and the AR are two completely different sizes... shouldn't have rushed it so much. As for the Zerox one, the bar widths aren't great but the 3D is even worse... I'm surprised you didn't mention it.

[dankbudz]

upper90- practice simps more before you bend your bars, add extensions and shit. everything you did is practically in the wrong place. go slowly with tweaking yo letters.
i wouldnt waste any time outlining them, i would practice on printerpaper or something cheap then throw it in your black book if you got something you like, but its up to you.

rib- yo mean the style of the R or the whole piece? i understand for the R though, shit looks stiff and awkward. ill try some out next time.

Rasm- that XEROx doesnt look to bad too me. I would just fix that R and the middle of the E makes it look like a sideways M. but the Z O and X is lookin good. and bar width on that isnt bad, it just looks like a quicky pencil sketch. good practice man

[EWL24]

Rasm - i like the zerox one, the only thing i would do is give the R a line or some kinda whole

dank - i think rib is talking about the whole piece cause u have been doing that same style for a while now and u r good enough to move on

most recent stuff iv done.
im thinking about changing my name to one of these
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crits please

[arsebanditskaelsucker]

dank- that last one of yours is tight buddy boy! :) again bottom leg of the s is a bit wack but its looking very noooice! :)

ewl- just that w bud, think if it was straight and not tryin to hump the e a little lol, but size and everything aint looking bad :)
upper 90- i preferred the last few sketches u put up on the last page or so....some of its fairly neat and then some of its a bit nutts like the last one on this page
rasm- love the zerox one, and the syar is pretty tidy too :)
squared that kayla...mmmmmm nice
messer- bit to much going on on those pages for me, like it all wants me to look at it at the same time...brain melt :)
evol- nice first one lovely n fluffy letters, but hows about some different letters than e and v
will attempt to post some more of my shit so you can rip me soon just too fucking tired right now.......

[ribcage]

@sed the style of it all, set that 1 aside and try branching out a bit with some different basis for letters and then go back to that one if you want. Trying different bases for letters can help you think of ways to change your other letters......if that makes sense... btw thanks for uploading them pics for me


http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/matthew1o/0625111743.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/matthew1o/1111101453.jpg

[.Cuore]

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/matthew1o/0625111743.jpg


Sick octopus dude. Hhahaa.

[dankbudz]

rib- no problem broski.
as for your pics, i already told you the top one was dope aha. Letter wise, they get smaller in height and barwidth and less snazzy (compared to the R). Im diggin the R, A, and H. Though i still thing you should open them vericle bars of the H more. The E is lookin like my lame E's and i know you can top my shit tenfold. Definitely diggin the style though.
Cant crit the bottom cause i can never read those style of pieces.

ewl- keep up the practicing. give some space on the bottom one.

[Rasm]

Ribcage, I'm digging the 3D work although I'm not completely sure what it says. That part down the bottom there on the right side might look better if it was going at a slightly different angle though. As for the Reach page with the octopus, I like the artwork but your bar widths are all over the place. I'd personally make the angels of the bends in your letters a little more consistent too.

[Shroomsh]

for the kids that get me through hard times ♥
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["FrY"]

^^^Oooo thats sexy. I like it. Keep it up mate.

Since my camera was made in mexico, you can't see that there's an outline. I had trouble making the n's similar, but after a few attempts I got them to be somewhat close. You like?
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[DaFugg]

The N bars are inconsistent in a bad way man, The E has a random tilt, like it had one too many to drink The bottom extention is uneeded as well as the top. I like the O but it doesn't match. The last N is much better but could still use more work.

There's a lot wrong with it but it's definately on to something. Try working a simpler version of that.

[dankbudz]

no one gives a shit about your lightning blue outline. last N wouldnt be THAT bad if it didnt have those random notches, but it still is smaller then the O. haha and i thought the second letter was a C. practice your simples, learn some letter structure.

Shroomsh- those names looking siick, i like that crazy hectic background you got going on.

FRY, dude, look at his letters, and notice how his are good and simple, but have style to it, because he tweaked them slightly and in the right places. he didnt add a shit ton of notches or extension connection wanna be wildstyle shit. practice your simples and itll pay off.

["FrY"]

cool, thanks for the tips guys (: ill start on something simpler in just a sec.