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sadgeh
07-08-2011, 03:59 AM
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/470/fightz.jpg

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/3729/graffschetsen1007.jpg

Random shit.

Mc Satan
07-08-2011, 08:07 AM
@ shroom, i know i dotn have the best material right now, will have to invest on that later on.
I'm still wondering about the whole big "M" little "C" attached to it thing though. Also i know im nto good enough to offer a trade, at least not writing, but is there anywhere i could ask to see other's take on my name?

Mc Satan
07-08-2011, 09:35 AM
allright here is an attempt with more effort put into it. also i made a different lookign S on a different piece of paper and put it on. just to see which one you guys think look better


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-Sinn-
07-08-2011, 01:14 PM
Mc Satan work on cleaning up your lines and thickening bottom of ur S you seem to understand the minimum requirements for simples now try makin em look pretty
Grimes only part im not feeling is bottom of the loop in the R and the top of the E try fattening em more next time other then that nicely done
Joks not really feeling any of it seems to bunched seperate it plus length of dif bars is throwing me off
Sadgeh - Make your letters bigger and do simps ur piece dont flow head more towards the look of your bloop sketchhttp://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/zinkery90/Picture014-3.jpg
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/zinkery90/Picture026-1.jpg
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/zinkery90/Picture027-2.jpg
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/zinkery90/Picture030.jpg
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/zinkery90/Picture031-1.jpg
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/zinkery90/Picture035-2.jpg
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/zinkery90/Picture036-2.jpg
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/zinkery90/Picture038-2.jpg
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/zinkery90/Picture142-3.jpg
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/zinkery90/Picture143-2.jpg
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/zinkery90/Picture144-4.jpg

crits?

Mc Satan
07-08-2011, 01:24 PM
thank sinn should i stick to the more straight edges "S" or the regular one? i tend to lean towards straight one. also of all the things you posted that raptor chick does not convince me neck to head connection looks weird and one shoulder is different height than the other. and this is just me wondering but why did you put such a gigantic cameltoe on her?

sadgeh
07-08-2011, 02:44 PM
I know that it dont flow but I just want to know what the crits were.
But I posted it because I had only this two on the pc. So I check when I can upload other pics.

@Sinn that dragon girl the head looks in a weird direction the angle is a little too big or something (I have not much experience)
And props for the weed leaf.

dankbudz
07-08-2011, 03:50 PM
Sinn- 2nd picture, both pages are dope, those weed leaf characters are tight.
and nice lizard women camel toe

skeetch for that basoe battle
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/matthew1o/0708111346.jpg

Messer
07-08-2011, 04:44 PM
sin- i love your karaks and style...
dank- diggin' them simple rounded letters.
joks- try disconnecting those letters, they look like youre going for a tech style but it took me ages to realise what it said
mcsatan- drop the kiss/lighting bolt S and keep rocking them simples, try bringing them closer together and overlapping them a little.

doodled this at my mums house, might work on it and make it a karak:
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p157/best-BTK/DSCF0032.jpg

pen ran out midway through this...payday tommorrow so im gonna pic up some cheap pens:
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p157/best-BTK/DSCF0033.jpg

ribcage
07-08-2011, 04:55 PM
@sinn good shit, post more. as for crits go, I think thicker lines like on the last 1 would do you wonders on the ones that have a lot of detail inside the letters like on the 2nd pic top right corner. That little SI on the 2nd to last pic at the top has got some simple steaz as well, woulda been dope if you did your wole word
-cheers

o yeah and this for the battle... im coloring it now... E's fucked so if you give me shit about it im going to murder your whole family
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/matthew1o/0707112044.jpg

Messer
07-08-2011, 05:02 PM
yo,your E is fucked...

ian
07-08-2011, 05:05 PM
yo ribcage that is good ma man, except that E. that extension from the bottom bar to make the middle bar is pretty fucked.
/
been a while since i posted any pics, havent had much sketchin time. Crits on this bad boy?

http://cl.ly/2z373m0B09232O1t072u/Screen_Shot_2011-07-08_at_6.01.45_PM.png

Mc Satan
07-08-2011, 05:14 PM
messer thanks for advice will try that later this is officially last appearance of lightning bolt "S" since i drew this before i read the post.
i thought i'd try something a little bit more stylized this time , and decided to try a 3d also
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Ace.K
07-08-2011, 05:14 PM
A couple quick simples, not a lot of effort put in so if you want to crit just stick to the lettering I guess.

This one was bleeding throught the yellow highlight to the bottom sketch and got black and red in it. Self crits: The C is too small compared to the other letters and the E and K shouldn't have been connected that much.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p104/skier46/IMG00159-20110708-1703.jpg?t=1310162939

Self crits on this one: Top curve on C is bigger than bottom, the hole in the A is fucked up and the leg on the K is too short. I was more of trying to work with blending in fills on this one.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p104/skier46/IMG00158-20110708-1703.jpg?t=1310163003

Mc Satan
07-08-2011, 05:17 PM
messer thanks for advice will try that later this is officially last appearance of lightning bolt "S" since i drew this before i read the post.
i thought i'd try something a little bit more stylized this time , and decided to try a 3d also
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bumping this cause i was last post

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Ace.K
07-08-2011, 05:20 PM
Bring your letters in closer together^

Mc Satan
07-08-2011, 05:22 PM
besides that what about the font and my first 3d attempt?

ian
07-08-2011, 05:31 PM
yo ribcage that is good ma man, except that E. that extension from the bottom bar to make the middle bar is pretty fucked.
/
been a while since i posted any pics, havent had much sketchin time. Crits on this bad boy?

http://cl.ly/2z373m0B09232O1t072u/Screen_Shot_2011-07-08_at_6.01.45_PM.png


bottom page bumpage


also, mc satan, make letters that are made from bars, consistent width, and close together. Also make them look like normal letters for now

Mc Satan
07-08-2011, 08:02 PM
allrite first attempt at having the letters be slightly on top of each other plus 3d
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ribcage
07-08-2011, 08:09 PM
@ian your a fuck face, and why is your O a U

Rasm
07-08-2011, 08:54 PM
@Rib, I feel like the BA and the SE are two slightly different styles or something and it doesn't help the flow very much. The E isn't your best, as you know, but overall your letters are pretty solid. Not too sure I'm digging that disappearing extension off the top of the A though. I think it would be dope if you made it connect to form the crossbar of the A. And the O might be a little too small. Other than that, not bad. Good luck in that battle!

@Ace, The places where your letters connect in that top sketch look bad because your bars don't line up properly there. In that second sketch, the top of the A and the hole inside it are bad. You missed 3D on the inside of the E and the top left leg of the K, and overall it's not great. (Note the bottom right left of the K)

@Noise, Man, don't tell me that's not supposed to be an O. The N's style doesn't seem to match because it's all straight lines compared to your O, S, and E which are almost entirely curved. The bars on it are too wide too. I do like the fills and the clean outline. Keep working on that style you used for the S and the E because it does have some potential.

McSatan, I'm not going to draw your name for you because that's something you need to learn to do on your own. As for your latest sketch, keep the 3D going the same direction; they way you made it on the C isn't working. You're missing some pink on the bottom right side of the M, and the 3D on the top of the S is bad. Keep all the diagonal lines that form the 3D either parallel, or angled towards a vanishing point. It's called perspective. Also remember to watch your bar widths. Widen that S up and cross those A's.

Mc Satan
07-08-2011, 09:02 PM
actually i wanted to try it out without the crosses on the A also i know i fucked the 3d on the C and the S. does someone mine doing an S and a C in simple format so i can see the 3d first hand. it's been bothering me

Shroomsh
07-08-2011, 09:51 PM
Glad to say that this is where its at :)
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@satan, me doing you a piece would be the worst thing for you.. you would start to bite, not on purpose but you will. ya have to develop your own style

Mc Satan
07-08-2011, 10:15 PM
well can someone just do a simple 3d s and c im fuckign them up badly need soem reference

EWL24
07-08-2011, 11:10 PM
ian - like rib said ur O looks kinda like a U, but other then that i like it
Shroomsh - that looks sick, i really like the cracks in it

just colored this in, crits please
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Mc Satan
07-08-2011, 11:31 PM
ok both S and C 3d went a lot better this time, but i feel like i may have messed up the T.
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dankbudz
07-09-2011, 12:43 AM
Ace.k- thats actually not that bad, you coulda cleaned it up a bit more though
Shroomsh- lookin sick, maybe extend that bar on the X more downward. the one that goes like /
EWL- work on smoother lines and you are missing the 3d on part of the E, and that top bar is funky.
Mc Satan- practice more, dont overlap letters, if you do then make them consistent for each letter. , that S is funky and you should work on your lines.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/matthew1o/0708112209.jpg

Mc Satan
07-09-2011, 12:49 AM
thanks im jsut trying out new things as i go along,i knwo i gotta work on my S for some reason its always ugly. now was i right about the 3d on the T looking odd or is it jsut me?

dankbudz
07-09-2011, 12:53 AM
its always ugly cause you need to keep practicing.
the 3d looks weird cause of the angle. since you got all the negative space on the left and right it looks funny. and you are missing some on the S.

Mc Satan
07-09-2011, 01:07 AM
oh yeah just realized that on the S oh well at least personally i feel improvement they are taking a lot less each time. gto any suggestions on anything else i should practice?

dankbudz
07-09-2011, 01:14 AM
your letters. and take your time.

Messer
07-09-2011, 06:27 AM
sin- i love your karaks and style...
dank- diggin' them simple rounded letters.
joks- try disconnecting those letters, they look like youre going for a tech style but it took me ages to realise what it said
mcsatan- drop the kiss/lighting bolt S and keep rocking them simples, try bringing them closer together and overlapping them a little.

doodled this at my mums house, might work on it and make it a karak:
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p157/best-BTK/DSCF0032.jpg

pen ran out midway through this...payday tommorrow so im gonna pic up some cheap pens:
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p157/best-BTK/DSCF0033.jpg

bump for crits, mcsatan bring your letters closer together and bulk 'em out...

Mc Satan
07-09-2011, 08:27 AM
allrite thanks, just an idea i had but should i start moving the vanishing point around also? to try out different angles?

ribcage
07-09-2011, 04:12 PM
...just when I thought nah! couldnt become any stupider, he goes and makes another stupid account... yo nah! youve already been banned twice you little ugly troll, your on the road to a permaban. We no wan that tho cause then who is gonna make me look good

im on a muthafucking posting frenzy cause my laptop is actually letting me use the internet...
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g388/ribcage22/0708111542.jpg

Mc Satan
07-09-2011, 07:29 PM
ok tried bigger letters and switched up the vanishing point off a bit to the side instead of center. realized to late that the N was to far away but other than that im actually kinda satisfied.
what do you guys think?
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ribcage
07-09-2011, 07:43 PM
yikes, you shouldnt be satisfied with that...

You need to start making smarter decisions with your letters. Thats a pencil up there right? Use that pencil bro. Lol I got jokes, but on the real take more time and sketch your shit out. then after you havesketched letters draw your 3d on w/ pencil so you can fix your fuck ups before you ink it. An example of making smarter decisions would be- if your going to do a vanishing point, pick a point or spot that doesnt give you an awkward 3d. Like how your 3d is different for your A and N then it is for the rest of the letters.

Mc Satan
07-09-2011, 08:04 PM
i work with pencil first ten pass pen,also considering my other ones i'm actually satisfied so far. the vantage point i'm just kinda messing around with just moving it around to do 3d from various angles. that way i can hammer into my head the correct 3d for both the C and the S which i have problems with. also my S finally came out looking allrite. every other S ive drawn so far had tons of dents. so considering my previous ones yes im satisfied. also went with bigger fatter letter like i was told on previous page. gonna have something to eat and try something out without any 3d and try to get them closer together maybe lean to one side just to test out.

DaFugg
07-09-2011, 08:13 PM
Don't lean, focus on simple SIMPLE letters. You shouldnt be happy with that S or any letter on there. Fix the width of your letters. it should all be even.

Mc Satan
07-09-2011, 09:31 PM
made it clear where i fucked up on the M by coloring it, besides that i think the other letters went well. also since im tired of drawing letters today added a lil devil on top
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SVEZAJEZA
07-09-2011, 09:48 PM
why u drawin straight letters like that anyways, thats why we have computers.

ian
07-09-2011, 10:03 PM
yoooo ribcage i was just fuckin with ya my dude, that turned out sick. Don't know if you're lookin for crits on the REACH as well but if you are, the top of the R should be a bit bigger and those weird things on the bottom left of the R and A need to go and so does that funky extension on the H. Other than that, lookin good. tbh i don't even mind that E in the basoe too much. Your fills are always clean as anything as well, somethin i like about your work. Keep it up my dude.


Mc Satan, on the right track somewhat, although i think your A's need their middle lines. Also all your lines are shaky as fuck. Work quicker with the marker. Good to see youre usin bars though, keep it up


One last bump, any more crits? This thing took me so long to do I would work like 5 mins on it and then walk away from it for the longest time. Been hella busy. I know the O looks like a U. Still can't rock that style. I'll also be postin up a sketch im workin on for the battle shortly when i finish it.


http://cl.ly/2z373m0B09232O1t072u/Screen_Shot_2011-07-08_at_6.01.45_PM.png




EDIT::::
http://cl.ly/2s0v2I3o1o1p1C1E311l/Screen_Shot_2011-07-09_at_11.21.52_PM.png

for the battle, gonna ink and color it tomorrow. Hit me

Mc Satan
07-09-2011, 10:12 PM
lines are shaky mainly cause of the pen if i go quick it doesnt mark it well, i just need to either get hang of the pen or get something else. also at least in this last one it kinda felt right not to cross the A's i know i fucked up that M but realized when i was to late. decided to point it out myself. and the devil cause i needed to draw something that wasn't bars today. always been drawing on and off never liked straight lines.

Ace.K
07-10-2011, 12:05 AM
@ian: for the Noise piece, the N is overpowering the other letters, and the top curve of the E looks a little goofy. Otherwise nice work. You might want to revise that Basoe piece. The letters gradually get bigger and smaller with each other. Compare that A to the B and S. Its miniature to them. Good work on the extensions on the B though, they look natural.

Can I get some crits on my entry for the battle? Just the rough draft.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p104/skier46/IMG00160-20110709-2357.jpg?t=1310274017

Urbanosity Ltd.
07-10-2011, 12:55 AM
ace, all i can see right now is the E is a little low and i think the S is going over the O a bit too much

Rasm
07-10-2011, 01:41 AM
Mc Satan, stop asking people to draw your letters for you. If you can't even do that on your own good luck ever coming up with an original style.

And 3D is extremely easy to draw. All you need to do draw diagonal lines that are all the same length and parallel to each other. (Don't do perspective yet, you clearly don't understand the concept well enough to do that) Then connect the lines but make sure to keep the line that forms the 3D the same distance from the letter throughout. That's why the top of your C in that sketch with the yellow 3D is so fucked up.

Try playing around with the wordart feature on MS Word. It should help your understanding.
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j89/fearophobia/msword.jpg

Ace.K
07-10-2011, 03:01 AM
Fixed it and filled it. Any better guys?

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p104/skier46/IMG00162-20110710-0246.jpg?t=1310284693

manik00
07-10-2011, 09:42 AM
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crits please

Mc Satan
07-10-2011, 12:38 PM
allrite i did some sketches this morning thought i'd post em. i think im staying out of 3d for awhile and stick to drop shadows till i get better hang of it
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Strange Journeys
07-10-2011, 01:26 PM
drop the mc. Mc Satan is a dumb name. That first Satan is alrite, just straiten up the S and move it closer

Mc Satan
07-10-2011, 01:35 PM
i kinda like it plus it's something ive been called by friends for almost 10 years. before i started trying to write it i asked in the question forums and you are the only one who has said anythign negative about it. plus i think just satan sounds like 12 yr old trying to be hardcore

DaFugg
07-10-2011, 01:54 PM
Mc Satan sounds like a 12 year old trying to be hardcore just as bad..

Rasm
07-10-2011, 02:40 PM
McSatan, your 3D on that middle one looks terrible because your diagonal lines aren't even close to parallel.. The ones coming off the top of the C are going almost vertically downwards, while the one off the top of the second A is almost horizontal. You seem to have no hope.

dankbudz
07-10-2011, 02:54 PM
Ace.k- thats a nice simp but... that arrow in the background is pretty gay, in my opinioin. the B is bulgy on the bottom part, and the E is too close to the O.
Manik- give your word a baseline, and dont extend the bars past it, like on the A and K. and pay attention to bar width.

dude mc satan is suck a rad name

Mc Satan
07-10-2011, 05:09 PM
on a srs note how many ppl think mc satan is to long,if you don't liek the name i dont care it's length that has me doubting

Phat 2
07-10-2011, 05:19 PM
ok, enough with the banter about mcsatan's name.

bottom line for mc satan: your name's no good for graffiti, it's too long and isn't fit to be a writer's name. your friends called you that for 100 years, that's cool, and you don't have to change it, but know that it sucks.

bottom line for everyone else: you're all still gonna go on with your lives if a kid's name sucks. no more discussions on that topic please, we all know that his name isn't gonna change shit, and it's his choice.

end of discussion. the person after me has to post a flick. no crits, no shit. flicks first. crits later.
thanky yu

EWL24
07-10-2011, 07:59 PM
crits please
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Rasm
07-10-2011, 09:05 PM
Phat2, don't kill me for this, but McSatan, if you plan on getting up illegally, it's a bad idea to write something that people call you. Other than that, do what you want. Maybe you could shorten it to McSat or simply McS because having a 7 letter name can be a little long.

Anyways, I here's a quick sketch I did of your name. Don't bite it because it's pretty whack, but maybe it can give you some inspiration.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5678/imag092411.jpg

Ace.K
07-11-2011, 12:56 AM
Neses would be good. Lots of opportunity with those letters.

Pic for talking. Here's my Basoe entry as posted before and an exchange I did with a guy from another forum who goes by Poker but used to write Pocet. Self crits: The poker chip and the R suck ass.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p104/skier46/IMG00171-20110711-0039.jpg?t=1310362829

Strange Journeys
07-11-2011, 01:02 AM
i dont like the arrow or color scheme on the first one and the second one has a lot of inconsistincies with bars, especially the K, and the hole in the p e and r are wack. why no 3d?

Shroomsh
07-11-2011, 06:06 AM
the usual style
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@kils thats for the tags thread isnt it?

Mc Satan
07-11-2011, 11:14 AM
here it is inked, im really proud of this one, so crits please
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Urbanosity Ltd.
07-11-2011, 12:53 PM
mcsatan, i like the squid, but the actual word of squid kinda kills it.. its small and its just hard to make it look good. you can keep it and be fine, but i'd get rid of it

Rasm
07-11-2011, 01:55 PM
Xist, that would look really dope on a wall with a crazy multi-colored background and then that painted over it, hollow. And remember there's an apostrophe in "we're." :D

aaesoo
07-11-2011, 06:26 PM
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i345/Wholigan420/07112011013.jpg

all my markers are dying so i'm being forced to do color schemes like this so i don't use a whole lot of any one colour. need to go rack.

Rezume_or_die
07-11-2011, 07:08 PM
why else would you be on here if you weren't putting effort into it,
it looks good, color it.
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any things i should fix on the letters?

Jokz
07-11-2011, 10:10 PM
Ewal: not bad, but you gotta watch your kerning bro

Ace: the Basoe looks good although im not a fan of the fill. The Poker id say all the letters need work.

Shroomsh: that shit looks mad dope, now go colour it or paint. it would look sick.

Mc Satan: that squid character looks pretty dope although as said before the word itself is too small.

Aaesoo: doesnt look too bad but you gotta fix the 3D and work a little more on the letters, overall not bad tho.

Rezume: shit looks dope, the character in the background looks insane although its hard to see. id try to work more on the "Z" and i wouldnt connect that extension of the "U" with the "E"

Here's a sketch i did, theres lots of things wrong with it and i messed up a couple of times too. im not really satisfied with the "Z" cuz it looks too much like a 2.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6006/5928360305_ddf1a2e665_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jokz/5928360305/)
trying new things (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jokz/5928360305/) by JokzOner (http://www.flickr.com/people/jokz/), on Flickr

crits please!!! anything helps

Mc Satan
07-11-2011, 10:27 PM
crappy photoshop coloring job untill i can get some colors

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Shroomsh
07-12-2011, 03:35 AM
@rasm, ay, thats what i was thinking keep it hollow with a shadow of the lines, and i know that theres ment to be a ' in were, hell forgot to put it in D:

Messer
07-12-2011, 12:39 PM
for mcsatan, cause i felt like it:
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p157/best-BTK/DSCF0036.jpg

finally getting around to finishing this off:
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p157/best-BTK/DSCF0035.jpg

ribcage
07-13-2011, 03:24 AM
your style is um... interesting...

Messer
07-13-2011, 06:56 AM
hahaha good or bad interesting? also, i showed a similar peice to a nurse in a psych ward i spent some time in a few years back and she said the exact same thing. hahaha.

Phat 2
07-13-2011, 07:20 AM
messer, you the fucked up kind of emo
this shit blows as graff

Mc Satan
07-13-2011, 08:05 AM
thanks for the writing allthough not sure how that would work out as graff. also your anatomy is a bit off. i like gore but there are no guts in tits which is what it looks like you drew coming out of it. also that woman sure has some child bearing hips on her :P

arsebanditskaelsucker
07-13-2011, 11:24 AM
Ewal- i think the end of the l is a needs to be a bit longer as teh rest of the letters look a bit wider but its clean yo!
ace- that basoe i likes, the arrow colour change bit works well :)
Shroom-tiiight! :)
aeso- think you could do a bit more with the 3d bit to bland for my liking
jokz- liking most the stuff your posting up
Rezume- i like everything on that except the gaps on the m
messer- you draw fucked up shit there buddy i like it my brain thinks like that too lol :) it kinda scares me sometimes tho lol
but i think if you get your actually people drawing skills tighter that fucked up imagery could be freaking dope in the background of a piece or as a character etc :)
Mcsatan-i like the squid, think satan would work better than the Mc but i'm not guna start that argument again, just my honest opinion :)
again will try to sit down n draw some shit up for ya'll to crit me on taa' :)

Messer
07-13-2011, 12:29 PM
hahaha thanks bro, i just like gore.

edit: pshhhh emo can smd.

nah!
07-13-2011, 02:02 PM
do you watch alot of guro??

Mc Satan
07-13-2011, 02:27 PM
allrite just posting up a lil sketch,gonna ink it and color it in a bit.trying out these new watercolor pencils.

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Jokz
07-13-2011, 02:40 PM
some old, some new

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6141/5934211663_909318d63a_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jokz/5934211663/)
sketchmania (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jokz/5934211663/) by JokzOner (http://www.flickr.com/people/jokz/), on Flickr
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6129/5934776290_b01c3b67f9_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jokz/5934776290/)
old sketch (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jokz/5934776290/) by JokzOner (http://www.flickr.com/people/jokz/), on Flickr
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6148/5934214507_4586a70f1a_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jokz/5934214507/)
old outline, new colours (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jokz/5934214507/) by JokzOner (http://www.flickr.com/people/jokz/), on Flickr

crits please

Mc Satan
07-13-2011, 02:46 PM
i like the horned jokz and the middle one although the K looks a bit odd to me

Jokz
07-13-2011, 02:58 PM
yea the "K" on both those sketches sucks.

EWL24
07-13-2011, 04:41 PM
Mc Satan - wow that is a huge improvement since the last thing u put up, keep up the good work

Jokz - the one with the antlers is cool, but like mc satan said ur K's are weird, the best K u have is on the one below the antler piece

Jokz
07-13-2011, 04:43 PM
yea all those k's are old outlines. the one underneath the antlers is kinda the new stuff im trying... different style, im still having trouble tho. itll come along eventually

Bilnek
07-13-2011, 04:48 PM
for mcsatan, cause i felt like it:
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p157/best-BTK/DSCF0036.jpg

finally getting around to finishing this off:
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p157/best-BTK/DSCF0035.jpg

biting gesus, if you bite don't put it up, leave it be in your blackbook where nobody sees it, tho i love the intensinegirl sketch

The Silent One
07-13-2011, 05:52 PM
If you think that's a Gesus Bite you might as well call out anyone that does a simple for writing "Scene" Messer's been writing for a while, and developed that style purely off simps back @ Mindgem forums a few years ago

Mc Satan
07-13-2011, 06:04 PM
ok guys all colored in, excuse anything that looks weird in the coloring this is the first time i use these watercolor pencils. also my inking was off today had horrible pen control today

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DaFugg
07-13-2011, 09:29 PM
That's 1000 times better than any shit you posted before man good job but keep working. That P looks too small for all the other letters and I'm not really feeling that little I.
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Anyone mind criting a handstyle exchange? Never really done handstyles.

Mc Satan
07-13-2011, 09:33 PM
i was a little bti to short i plan on keeping the phile name each designnew theme this oen was audio- phile
next is necro-phile and i got ideas for a pedo-phile one. pedo bears ftw! :P

never tried handstyle or id crit he

Ace.K
07-14-2011, 02:11 AM
Are you trolling us Satan? You've improved greatly. Nice work and good color scheme. The one thing I notice is the letters all have different sizes to them i.e. your p is small to the h.

Rough sketch to my exchange with Slack. I'm gonna work on my S and K. Just can't get one I'm satisfied with on each.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p104/skier46/IMG00177-20110714-0202.jpg?t=1310627458

-Sinn-
07-14-2011, 03:57 AM
Slack - Your C seems to have a bend in it that doesnt match the flow of other letters which throws it off try shorter
DaFugg - start with basic straight letters close together and slowly rub funk on till desired affect has been reached
Mc Satan - You're improving by leaps and bounds. Good work now Impress me again
Jokz - The page with the antler sketch has style up the wazoo i love it the one under kills aswell try working on the K tho if i may suggest a kickback on bottom leg then horizontal gives a nice bend affect
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/zinkery90/Picture217-2.jpg
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/zinkery90/Picture219-1.jpg
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/zinkery90/Picture200-2.jpg
How I spent my weekend. Well that and endless nights filled with smoke crits?

Mc Satan
07-14-2011, 06:42 AM
thanks guys and besides the H which i know i did to big, and teh I which i purposely made smaller, all letters follow a rough outline i sketched in. drew curved line from top and bottom of speaker up to other side of paper.
also since i decided to leave 3d out of it i concentrate more on actually drawing. plus not having to draw only straight letters helps. i get bored easily. also im working on necro- phile now started last night

Messer
07-14-2011, 09:05 AM
do you watch alot of guro??

idk what guro is?


biting gesus, if you bite don't put it up, leave it be in your blackbook where nobody sees it, tho i love the intensinegirl sketch

dude, i havent bitten anyone, i can show you like 300 flicks of progression over like 3 years if you need proof, im not gonna lie, 666 among other crews and writers have inspired me, but if you compare that and any other piece ive done to gesus, you will see CLEARLY that i didnt bite, but thanks for the props on the girl. and thanks to the guys that had my back on this :D.

edit:crits.
joks- im loving that first piece on the bottom of the page, you should do more like that.
mcsatan-im not loving the speakers but some good progress, good job son.
sin-i love your shit, exchange?

Mc Satan
07-14-2011, 10:36 AM
i know about the speakers im kinda meh on them myself, but when i got down to drawign them i had an hour long brain fart. also guro is ultra violent anime if im not mistaken. guro is japanese bastardization of the english word gore. on a sidenote cause im not sure you read it int he previous page. study a bti of anatomy tits dotn have guts,nothing will come streaming otu of it in chunks like you drew. also this is just me im not a fan of the lil broken heart pin thingy

Messer
07-14-2011, 11:06 AM
haha i'll have to look that shit up then, and yeah just ftr, i started this canvas about a year back, and if you compare to the sketch i posted about a week or so back i think i have improved a little, i dont really draw straight from my head but ive been working on it recently, i usually do sketches of my friends when i have a picture to base it on...

anyways, started this just incase sin actually does want an exchange, crits would be greatly appreciated cause i like it so far, i'll post more of it in a bit:
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p157/best-BTK/DSCF0038.jpg
ik my camera sucks nuts, i'm saving for a new one...

Mc Satan
07-14-2011, 12:24 PM
right horn looks liek it might need some more curving to me the fingernail on teh index finger is pointing a different direction than the finger is, pinky finger/ finger nail seems to disappear behind the writing from what i can see. besides that it looks cool. although i still have serious problems reading your stuff, nothing bad this is just something i realized. and i don't really like your N's

Jokz
07-14-2011, 12:43 PM
Sinn: your work is sick bro, i love your style and colour schemes. not a big fan of that random arrow coming off the "S" in the first piece but besides that... MONEY

-Sinn-
07-14-2011, 01:04 PM
yeah i was baked as fuck and teaching friends i was all like "You see this shit?!! Don't do that! See where did this big ugly fuck come from?!!!?" btw Messer ill take u up on the battle P.s the girl u drew might go with piece more if her titty was torn off instead of sliced makes for more disgust and shock value lol maybe ill do a goth exchange for ya go back to my roots

Phat 2
07-14-2011, 01:12 PM
mcsatan, I'm gonna need you to cut back on the posting a bit mang. you don't need to reply to each and every single comment people give you... you don't wanna be a flooder
dont reply to this. thanks.

Messer
07-14-2011, 01:59 PM
sin, heres yours :), crit would be cool too.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p157/best-BTK/DSCF0040.jpg
fucked up the wings.

killamanilla
07-14-2011, 02:06 PM
http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/floridagraff/071111034735.jpg
http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/floridagraff/071311215355.jpg
http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/floridagraff/P1000591.jpg

Jokz
07-14-2011, 02:18 PM
sick shit man, i really digg the second piece's 3D fill. overall nice letter structure, i dont know how i feel about the U's one long one small leg, and the E's having no hole. keep it up tho

-Sinn-
07-14-2011, 02:29 PM
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/zinkery90/Picture221-2.jpg
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/zinkery90/Picture220-1.jpg
Messer thanks alot man as for critts i say widen the top of the S as with the dot on the i and the top last part of the N

TastyMcNasty
07-14-2011, 05:41 PM
sin your shit it dope as fuck! i love your characs

messer- weird style, but theres something i like about it. but i will say (other than the devil thing) your characs are pre wack. no beef

Mc Satan
07-14-2011, 06:29 PM
as i was saying this is the necro-phile theme just drew reworked that woman on the right to many times, and letters are nto straight by the time i realized it i was almost done did not feel like redoing the whole thing
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killamanilla
07-14-2011, 07:43 PM
http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/floridagraff/P1000593.jpg

TastyMcNasty
07-14-2011, 07:45 PM
^^yo diggin that style alot, E's a little weird on that one, and i dont like the M to U connection. really good tho

Mc Satan
07-15-2011, 12:08 AM
here it is inked and colored crit pls
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Xstinkt1
07-15-2011, 04:35 AM
27444
In Progress....

Something Quick.27446

Messer
07-15-2011, 07:34 AM
mcsatan- some nice improvement.
tasty- i know man, im working on it :).

more flicks later :)

DaFugg
07-15-2011, 02:51 PM
27527
Drew these while at work. top one while i was at a register and bottom one while i was on break. Crits?

Mc Satan
07-15-2011, 03:14 PM
^^ i got a crit for you, why are you drawing at work young man!!! :P
on srs note i dont particularly like the Y in the top one

arsebanditskaelsucker
07-15-2011, 04:58 PM
defo better mcsatan..bit of mexican day of the dead going off there??

Graff2k11
07-15-2011, 06:51 PM
http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o411/tcoley13/IMG952841.jpg

Critss^
I know the bottom of the s could be tweaked.. t doesn't relly flow bf the extension on the n could use a little work. Anything else y'all see?

.Cuore
07-15-2011, 09:38 PM
huge improvement mcsatan.

kridabob
07-15-2011, 11:39 PM
sin ya shits dope.
dunno if my pics are gonna upload. crit me like crazy tho only really started writing a few months ago so i wana improve

Mc Satan
07-15-2011, 11:54 PM
just a quick sketch i made from an idea i had, im pretty sure i messed up the H.
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dankbudz
07-16-2011, 12:56 AM
try writing them on a straight line

quickie simp
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/matthew1o/0715112237.jpg

Mc Satan
07-16-2011, 01:02 AM
whole idea was for it to spiral inward it was just a quik 10min sketch to see it on paper

anime_amk
07-16-2011, 01:29 AM
Used to hit up the old mindgem forum back in the day most of this is few years old but meh sketch is a sketch.
27567275682756927570275712757227573275742757527576 2757727578275792758027581

TastyMcNasty
07-16-2011, 02:41 AM
yo dank, im digging your work lately, youre getting closer to the point when you can start playing around with connections/ extensions (etc.). keep it up

ERAYS
07-16-2011, 11:35 AM
wow, I'm not even gonna try to give out crits because I'm probably worse at strait letters than all of the people on this page, but it would be nice if someone helped me out anyway.

This is my second straight letter ever...

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upper90daynnight
07-16-2011, 12:00 PM
ay yo erays trust me ik when u start out doing graffiti you want to make the letters different because otherwise may aswell type it increase the font and print it, but letters wont look cool unless you get ur bar width and lengths down and then from there u tweak things a little bit at a time, shit takes time it will prolly be 3-4 months before your style shows through but its like riding a bike, no person hops on a bike for the first time and lands a front flip, because before they do all the flashy stuff, they need to master the basics like not falling off, got it?

upper90daynnight
07-16-2011, 12:02 PM
hey user that shits dope, especially the color schemes and charcs on some of those peices keep it up bro

ERAYS
07-16-2011, 12:24 PM
so basically what you're saying is keep doing straight letters and get the letter structure down?

Rasm
07-16-2011, 01:43 PM
Just read this thread and look at the crits people are giving/getting. They're all the same. Get your bar widths down. Keep all your letters the same height and width. Keep them simple until you understand how they work, and eventually you'll be able to add connections and extensions that flow with the piece to give it your own style.

Mc Satan
07-16-2011, 03:09 PM
after a few other attempts i realized the idea i had, and posted above was not working. so i decided to revive my squid, this time on a paper in which i could color it. crits please i think this may be more intricate thing i've tried so far. gonna wait for crits before i ink it.

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Phat 2
07-16-2011, 03:29 PM
you've got the basic principles of bar usage down, but there still are some uneven places that need small tweaks. the 3D is fine more or less
The round part of the P is smaller than it should be, and the H is too wide, get the two vertical bars closer to each other next time.
also the 3D on the I's dot shouldn't have any angles
in general, I wanna give you props on the fast progress.
ink it, and keep it up

arsebanditskaelsucker
07-16-2011, 04:03 PM
^^ agreed nice job mcsatan :)

dankbudz
07-16-2011, 04:27 PM
yeah dude lookin good, diggin that character

crits?
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/matthew1o/0716111422.jpg

Messer
07-16-2011, 05:33 PM
dope shit anime, amk reppin' <3

Graff2k11
07-16-2011, 06:14 PM
http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o411/tcoley13/IMG952841.jpg
Crits. ...SETN

Mc Satan
07-16-2011, 06:59 PM
ok here it is inked
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EWL24
07-16-2011, 10:29 PM
dankbudz - looks good

Mc Satan - u need to move faster with the marker, cause other wise the marker bleeds and the line looks blotchy

the top one i did yesterday but the bottom i did about a week ago
i wanted to try something different from what i have been doing crits please
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toopski
07-16-2011, 11:33 PM
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/7159/dsc0003se.jpg

not quite finished for the battle atm, but am sorta cbf so idk if ill finish it

Mc Satan
07-16-2011, 11:43 PM
its actually a fine tip pen which is why it bleeds so much, still not quite used to it. here is the finished version getting the pink right is a pain in the ass. i srsly need to get job asap so i can order markers, this water color pencil thing is way to labor intensive,and un precise
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DaFugg
07-17-2011, 02:07 AM
I don't think that lower case I really works. just looks out of place.

Shroomsh
07-17-2011, 02:20 AM
exchange piece for "dzert" from canberra
Fuck i love female artists ♥
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arsebanditskaelsucker
07-17-2011, 08:37 AM
^^ Tight shroom love your letter t's
exchange for mr slack....any crits please cuz i have been critting :)
http://img37.picoodle.com/i57h/potts/16fp_8bf_u905z.jpg (http://i.picoodle.com/03eifnz1)

REVNoner
07-17-2011, 11:41 AM
http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o411/tcoley13/IMG959583.jpg
critts^^^
REVN

arsebanditskaelsucker
07-17-2011, 01:25 PM
^^ everythings a little too close together for me rev i do like the letters just spread them out abit for me personally :)

REVNoner
07-17-2011, 01:40 PM
http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o411/tcoley13/2011-07-17_14-32-24_672.jpg
Critts^^^
give me some feed back..
Revn.

dankbudz
07-17-2011, 02:25 PM
SHROOMSH- that looks dope! but i feel like the T coulda been done differently. im not really feeling it with the whole piece.
REVN- Post yo ish in the right thread, son
but uh feedback... try smoothing your lines out and dont overlap those lines onto the letter before, and practice, and take your time.
also on the handy above that, dont try so hard to make it look cool, also dont worry about addons yet untill you can do good hands, itll just make ya look more toy.

colored this, i probably will eventually put a background, but i got lazy and stuck with solid color fill.
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/matthew1o/0717110119.jpg

Graff2k11
07-17-2011, 02:33 PM
http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o411/tcoley13/IMG959673.jpg
@hyphe looks a lot better colored.. but still no fan of straight letters. Check the new simp. Crits

DaFugg
07-17-2011, 08:55 PM
The E is fucked up and none of the letters match, you need to practice straight letters to get your structure down.

Rasm
07-17-2011, 09:55 PM
@McSatan, your stuff is coming along but if you keep spending all your time on drawing squid, you'll never improve your letters. Keep at it though.
@Xist, man, I like your stuff a lot, and that latest sketch is no different. And yes, there's nothing better than a female artist.
@Slack, those letters are pretty whack, so it could help to do a few simples to get some structure down. Make sure you keep all your 3D the same depth. As for the A, I can't really crit the character.
@Revn, seems like your hand is slightly shaky on that outline. I'd work on the top of the R if I were you. Besides that it's not that bad, just keep sketching.
@Dank, I feel like some of those letters, namely the Y and P, are a little too jagged or something in their top halves. I'm also not digging the middle bar of the E or the way both of the other horizontal bars are slanted towards the middle.

@hyphe looks a lot better colored.. but still no fan of straight letters. Check the new simp. Crits
Haha dude, you should start doing some straight letters because you could definitely use it. And the "new simp"? Don't tell me you plan on rocking that any time soon. The E disappears into the S, the drop shadow is fucked up, and the letters are different styles.

Here's something I did when the other night when I was wasted. I was choosing what letter to write as I went, and when I got to "KALNOR" I realized that it was almost Ironlak backwards, so I threw in an I at the end. It's whack as fuck but I wasn't in the mindset to care.
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/3238/lakj.jpg

Sors
07-18-2011, 02:01 AM
top piece by sors, bottom piece me [xist]
crits?
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Phat 2
07-18-2011, 04:33 AM
are there any letters at all in there?

Shroomsh
07-18-2011, 04:55 AM
Ahaha there was, but then i got cooked as usual, they read sors and xist but yeah dont give a fuck if ya cant read it, that wasnt the point of us doing this.

arsebanditskaelsucker
07-18-2011, 11:52 AM
cheers for the crit rasm :) yeah to be fair i've not drawn a thing for a while so everything is a little rusty....just had fun with that one...did look good until i overcooked it with the white on the 3d n also the 3d just went a bit to far.....but least i drew something for once and actually had time to finish it lol
also the only thing i don't like or doesn't fit is the middle bar across the letter a on your backwards ironlak but other than that clean letter yo!
sors n shroom....i likes bit mental can't read a fucking on it but just to look at and admire...spot it buddy :)
danks- mega clean again bud i'd like to see you experiment more with the colour of your 3d and see if it will be trying to climb off the page lol
2k11- consider even gaps between the letters and letter over laying each other a little too much in places...general stuff like that i think
rev- agree with rasm neaten up those lines a little..needs to be a bit cleaner
and thats the world put to rights for today lol :)

One Evil
07-18-2011, 01:01 PM
^yur comments to sors n shroom makes no sense what so ever... imo that shit he did with his buddy is fresh as hell... and that style is ment to pretty much just blow ur mind and u arent suppose to read it thats the point..

top piece by sors, bottom piece me [xist]
crits?http://www.bombingscience.com/graffitiforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=27788&d=1310972445


thats fuckin cool really diggin em both!

Dune
07-18-2011, 01:49 PM
Hey Im fairly new to all this, feedback on the attatchment would be great!Its obviously not finished yet, but tell me what you think, Thanks!

EWL24
07-18-2011, 02:43 PM
Shroomsh & Sors - nice job, i like them both a lot

Dune - go way simpler, git rid of all the extensions and arrows, cause right now it looks really bad

arsebanditskaelsucker
07-18-2011, 02:57 PM
one evil- your right its doesn't make any sense i just read it back to myself lol wot an arse i am pretty tired though
ok so again in proper english this time i was trying to say:
i can't make out what it says but just to look at and admire it, it is shit hot! :)
that make more sense now? lol
I can't make a biro work that well so i'm definatly not dissin it yo!

Shroomsh
07-18-2011, 03:31 PM
Cheers everyone, im glad you realise that its just ment to look good and not readable, when i was doing this, i could visulize looking at somesort of building identical to what i wasnted to draw, and it worked :D

dune - your wildstyle is essentially built off of your simple style, which is why new people who try to go wild straight away cant, work on you simple until you have built some sexy as letters before you add on extensions, simples are very underated too, some of my favorite artists including askew and rime (bothe wild as fuck) do simples still and you can tell how developed and natural graffiti has become for them. Because there simples are the tits, i hope this helped

upper90daynnight
07-18-2011, 08:05 PM
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i think this was good exsept the E needed to be moved down a bit and i the lines could have been cleaner

.Cuore
07-18-2011, 08:34 PM
get rid of the shine and practice your simples.

DaFugg
07-18-2011, 09:01 PM
The more time i spend on this site the more "Practice your simples" sounds like "Eat your vegitables"

Dune
07-18-2011, 09:11 PM
Alright thanks for the advice, I added to it and i think it looks pretty good. But il practice my simples and start from the bottom, sweet deal guys

.Cuore
07-18-2011, 09:30 PM
The more time i spend on this site the more "Practice your simples" sounds like "Eat your vegitables"

no matter where you go, that's what you'll hear. you need to eat your vegetables to grow up to be big and strong the same way you needa practice your simples to make headway in becoming a decent artist.

Dune
07-18-2011, 10:16 PM
[ATTACH=CONFIG]27844[/ATTACHI know that its alittle over the top and i understand that im going to work on my simples. But i added to it, so just for fun, throw me some feedback please:cool:

DaFugg
07-18-2011, 10:33 PM
bars are bad and arrows are just crap. It doesn't look good and has no flow.

-Sinn-
07-18-2011, 11:48 PM
Dune - Looks like shit no hate it just does u said u know what to do so no excuses not to
This is for Messer
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/zinkery90/Picture247-1.jpg
crits?

TastyMcNasty
07-18-2011, 11:54 PM
^^FUCKIN DOPE! thats so bangin bro, the fills, the extensions,everything!
on that note, you wanna exchange?

-Sinn-
07-19-2011, 12:19 AM
I'm down ill prob just do simps tho need to pick up markers what u write and heres a song to put everyone in the mood to laugh and draw if uve had few b-rips like me lol
http://youtu.be/dHZopVDdgVA

TastyMcNasty
07-19-2011, 12:31 AM
sick bro. and i write soar

Tony
07-19-2011, 01:52 AM
i started doing simples and now its all i can do






do whatever the fuck you want

SHUT
07-19-2011, 10:34 AM
I'm not in much of a position to talk, but i see slotr pretty clearly in there. Its just ugly, that's all. Fucked up on my S and the shadowing.

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lord_plankton
07-19-2011, 01:26 PM
sloter is weak. call it style i call it uglyness. and when it comes down to paintin hes even worse. rasm you shut the fuck up.
haha just recognized the "dont fuck with me" in slotrs pic...stuuupid head!

some stuff be me n others...
http://i804.photobucket.com/albums/yy329/lord_plankton/IMG_3593.jpg

http://i804.photobucket.com/albums/yy329/lord_plankton/IMG_3624.jpg

http://i804.photobucket.com/albums/yy329/lord_plankton/IMG_3665.jpg

REVNoner
07-19-2011, 05:03 PM
http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o411/tcoley13/2011-07-19_17-52-06_180.jpg

Critts^^ whatcha think?

killroywashere
07-19-2011, 08:15 PM
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6020/5955874059_01c0bf1ef9.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/61418984@N05/5955874059/)

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6029/5955873819_19eb9b7374.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/61418984@N05/5955873819/)

random stuff i been working on

sinn - your a beast
Revm - throw some 3d on there

ProxyArt
07-19-2011, 08:20 PM
I just started a couple weeks ago so here's what I got

http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz333/InfernoParadox/snapshot1.jpg

http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz333/InfernoParadox/snapshot.jpg

Crits please :)

.Cuore
07-19-2011, 08:27 PM
Dune - Looks like shit no hate it just does u said u know what to do so no excuses not to
This is for Messer
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/zinkery90/Picture247-1.jpg
crits?

that fill is top shelf.

REVNoner
07-19-2011, 08:53 PM
ProxyArt... try and use more of your style instead of a graffiti creator.

ProxyArt
07-19-2011, 09:06 PM
ProxyArt... try and use more of your style instead of a graffiti creator.

Yeah, I got that, I used it to see how certain letters should look, I don't see good graffiti where I live so I had no idea where to start, but I've been playing around with it a bit trying to make it my own.

Shroomsh
07-19-2011, 10:16 PM
There is no 'what graffiti letters should look' everyones style should be different from another otherwise shit gets boring, and nobody stands out

REVNoner
07-19-2011, 10:17 PM
Proxyart... yeah go on google images. But just keep sketching.


But anyways.. got bored so y'all critt!
http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o411/tcoley13/2011-07-19_23-07-21_854.jpg

ProxyArt
07-19-2011, 10:52 PM
There is no 'what graffiti letters should look' everyones style should be different from another otherwise shit gets boring, and nobody stands out

Idk, at the beginning you always bite off others a bit and eventually through subtle changes it becomes your own style, at least that's what I was told :/. But living where I live I don't have anyone to 'look up to' in a way so I went to the internet.

Ravid1
07-19-2011, 11:45 PM
3 day piece.."LOST"27943

ribcage
07-19-2011, 11:48 PM
^that sucks, background-sucks, colors-sucks, letters-sucks, tags at the bottom-suck.

you are all fat losers and have body odor

extinct
07-20-2011, 01:29 AM
unfinished... 1st character in months... the right hand is backwards...
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6124/5956578123_4d94b5107c.jpg[/url]

Shroomsh
07-20-2011, 01:44 AM
yeah my stuff is wild and you cant read most of it but 'lost' that is filth, and not in a good way,

extinct, i like the charo and the most part of the piece, but the "R" doesnt suit imho,
i like the "E" a lot though.

and proxy, sure thats understandable, but the less you bite while your starting out, the more you test your creativity and actually improve, i know from personal experience, i used to be the biggest toy, biting everything i saw, but my graffiti didnt take off until i started visualizing what i wanted to see myself, and not visualising what others had done. the less you try to copy, the more you can visualize your own style development, ya dig?

Ravid1
07-20-2011, 05:40 AM
Like you said shroomsh, I was "testing my creativity"
I mean sure its not your typical graff but at least Im attempting to step outside the box. Something you don't see too much of nowadays

Shroomsh
07-20-2011, 05:51 AM
I do so much moving in and out of the box that you could say i was fucking it.

Ravid1
07-20-2011, 05:57 AM
Haha alright I'll take a witty line over blunt ass remarks any day

Jiska Matos
07-20-2011, 09:07 AM
27960 hows it going ppl? here is some stuff im working on ;)

golfwanger
07-20-2011, 09:37 AM
27972

27987

any tips for me?

paintfaceVT
07-20-2011, 10:01 AM
some old, some new

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6141/5934211663_909318d63a_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jokz/5934211663/)
sketchmania (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jokz/5934211663/) by JokzOner (http://www.flickr.com/people/jokz/), on Flickr
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6129/5934776290_b01c3b67f9_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jokz/5934776290/)
old sketch (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jokz/5934776290/) by JokzOner (http://www.flickr.com/people/jokz/), on Flickr
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6148/5934214507_4586a70f1a_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jokz/5934214507/)
old outline, new colours (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jokz/5934214507/) by JokzOner (http://www.flickr.com/people/jokz/), on Flickr

crits please


yo for real best thing on here, mad simple, defines the blocks, proper structure, this is where I started, keep at it, start changing the size of the blocks, widths length, add some bends, trust me more bad crits will follow, but in the long run, you'll get it

golfwanger
07-20-2011, 12:01 PM
27989

Pursy.....

critz?:confused:

Rasm
07-20-2011, 01:23 PM
Like you said shroomsh, I was "testing my creativity"
I mean sure its not your typical graff but at least Im attempting to step outside the box. Something you don't see too much of nowadays
There's really no point in stepping out of the box if you're going to drop all letter structure and consistency while doing so.

golfwanger
07-20-2011, 01:36 PM
279902799127992

a few more. Ive been messing with the word elder, elbo.

Could some one give me some pointers?

golfwanger
07-20-2011, 01:46 PM
2799327994

Both Unfinished.


Crits?

OvanOne
07-20-2011, 02:01 PM
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/200/c/0/ovan_a1_by_ovanone-d40q8pw.jpg

hey guys, this is my first post here, hope you like my shit.

i know the markers suck, cause theyre almost dead and i didnt have time to get my hands on new stuff, so dont pay attention to the fill, just comment the letter structure and shit like that

golfwanger
07-20-2011, 02:20 PM
whats the word?

OvanOne
07-20-2011, 02:41 PM
youve got to be kidding me

and the word is OVAN, same as my nickname

OvanOne
07-20-2011, 02:51 PM
http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/201/0/4/devil_by_ant_h_raxx-d41397m.jpg

i made this one today, for a competition on deviantart...

golfwanger
07-20-2011, 02:59 PM
youve got to be kidding me

and the word is OVAN, same as my nickname

hahah, my bad bro. couldnt tell if that was a v.

Rasm
07-20-2011, 03:22 PM
@Extinct, I can't really crit characters because I don't draw them myself, but I like the style you're going for on the sketch. The letters don't seem to flow very well with one another because the I is too small and too far away from the R. It really kills the flow. I like the word Eris though; there's actually a dwarf planet named Eris that's larger than Pluto but 3 times further out.

@Jiska, that's super dope homie! I'm digging the character too!

@GoldWanger, work on your consistency. The middle part of the M in that top piece is practically nonexistant. The C is also very rough. Your A's in that bottom one are way too wide compared to the E and P, and the E is very boring and bland. In the Pursy sketch, the PUR seems to flow but the S doesn't fit, and I don't know if I'm digging the backwards Y. I'm not feeling the ENDR one. It has no flow or consistency, and your drop shadow is royally screwed. The ones below it are kinda meh, and so are those hand styles. The sketch at the bottom has some potential but I'd like to see you work on it more. You definitely seem to have some style and potential, just keep at it.

@Ovan, I'm definitely not liking the O in that yellow one, and the rest of the letters are bent in all the wrong places. Also lose those blocky chunks at the top... they're so overused it's not even funny. In the second one, I'm not feeling those little bumps you threw in all over the tops of your letters... they just don't look that good. And that's literally the least original thing to put at the bottom of the letter I. I hate seeing that shit because I know the artist didn't come up with that idea on their own... Aside from that, keep the bar widths more consistent and try coming up with your own style and add-ons.


Here's a sketch that's still pretty rough. There are several parts of it that I need to drop/re-do, but I was just looking for some crits before I ink and color it.
It says GOFAR.

http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/83/imag1015.jpg

EDIT: ... I know the lines are sketchy... I said it was a rough sketch.

golfwanger
07-20-2011, 03:56 PM
im digging the A. and the extra shadow things.

Anon Y
07-20-2011, 05:01 PM
Here's a sketch that's still pretty rough. There are several parts of it that I need to drop/re-do, but I was just looking for some crits before I ink and color it.
It says GOFAR.


Looks good so far, but I get a vibe off of it that I get in a lot of my sketches where I feel like it still needs something but can't put my finger on what it is.

killroywashere
07-20-2011, 05:07 PM
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6020/5955874059_01c0bf1ef9.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/61418984@N05/5955874059/)

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6029/5955873819_19eb9b7374.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/61418984@N05/5955873819/)

random stuff i been working on

sinn - your a beast
Revm - throw some 3d on there


bumped for crits

rasm - try to give your lines more purpose so they dont look so sketchy

Anon Y
07-20-2011, 05:47 PM
bumped for crits

haha, never thought of working a piece out on a whiteboard; that's a good idea.

Jiska Matos
07-20-2011, 06:56 PM
28004 project for my room :P any crits?

Phat 2
07-20-2011, 07:13 PM
golfwanger, if you're trying to write apear, I advise you look up APEAR from LA... I guess he's with MTA

golfwanger
07-20-2011, 08:15 PM
golfwanger, if you're trying to write apear, I advise you look up APEAR from LA... I guess he's with MTA

good looks bro. im not trying to die young(:

ill stick with ELDR.


28004 project for my room :P any crits?

that looks great bro.
only thing i can see, is make the bottom part of the mane a little more flowy.
but other than that great job.

Jokz
07-20-2011, 11:49 PM
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6141/5960211040_85d2ef9cf0_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jokz/5960211040/)
MF JOKZ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jokz/5960211040/) by JokzOner (http://www.flickr.com/people/jokz/), on Flickr

DaFugg
07-21-2011, 12:06 AM
Batman/Spartan/Elephant Hybrid.

TastyMcNasty
07-21-2011, 12:09 AM
^thats a mf doom elephant if im correct. not spartan
and its pre sick

Skeletor1134
07-21-2011, 12:19 AM
28012

posting a pic to feel cool. pretty shitty

Jokz
07-21-2011, 12:21 AM
^thats a mf doom elephant if im correct. not spartan
and its pre sick

you are indeed correct therefore the "MF JOKZ" :P

Shroomsh
07-21-2011, 12:25 AM
a few throw ideas, fuck that tag, it brought a tear to my eye, and not in a good way :(
28013

Anon Y
07-21-2011, 07:27 PM
^cool stuff man, with some polish I could see those throws being pretty tits.

Rezume_or_die
07-21-2011, 09:16 PM
mfdoom elephant is sick, that lion is on point
1st two pager i ever finished
28045
i may go back and do the shading better but i cant use any more time on this i have other peices to finish

Skeletor1134
07-21-2011, 09:22 PM
280472804828049

Criticize n shit

Tokyo_ROCKABILY-CLub
07-21-2011, 09:29 PM
"M" extension needs to gtfo.

Skeletor1134
07-21-2011, 09:39 PM
"M" extension needs to gtfo.

yeah M has been giving me some shit. not sure how to make it look good. i dont think my m in the last one is that bad but the second pic sucks.

Tokyo_ROCKABILY-CLub
07-21-2011, 09:45 PM
How does summer fag have 93 credits? even if you made the extension on the "M" shoot to the right it would look alot better.

Rezume_or_die
07-21-2011, 09:47 PM
on that third one, take that zigzag and spiral part out and it would be dope, imo

Rasm
07-21-2011, 09:50 PM
Xist, your throws aren't bad but keep working on them. X's are tricky.

Nice page Rezume.

And this SKAM burns you Skeletor.
http://www.bombingscience.com/index.php/gallery/viewThumbs/artist/474/city/127/style/1

Skeletor1134
07-21-2011, 10:18 PM
Xist, your throws aren't bad but keep working on them. X's are tricky.

Nice page Rezume.

And this SKAM burns you Skeletor.
http://www.bombingscience.com/index.php/gallery/viewThumbs/artist/474/city/127/style/1

ya ive seen his shit. its alot better than me no doubt but hell its not like im gonna start havin beef with him, i just like to write skam. every god damn name is taken so fuck.

Shroomsh
07-21-2011, 10:39 PM
throws are soo much easier with paint and a fat cap,
going bombing tonight so ill do a few and post them for proper crits on what the syle actually looks like, but yeah, i dont normally do throws, i piece a lot more..

REVNoner
07-21-2011, 10:46 PM
http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o411/tcoley13/2011-07-21_23-32-18_764.jpg
What y'all think? Go critt^^^
REVNoner!

OZON
07-21-2011, 11:00 PM
http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o411/tcoley13/2011-07-21_23-32-18_764.jpg
What y'all think? Go critt^^^
REVNoner! make the letters the same size close the hole on the e and push it out a bit more

KOKADEVA
07-22-2011, 07:00 AM
28070
crits please!

Rasm
07-22-2011, 08:59 AM
What y'all think? Go critt^^^
REVNoner!Man, quit posting the same 30-second simples over and over and demanding crits without even giving crits first.

MN Nice
07-22-2011, 09:06 AM
Not feelin it Cane. Bar widths are wack and just the style of the piece is lame. No offense.

Simps/rollers maybe and a new throw idea. Crits.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p104/skier46/IMG00191-20110722-0901.jpg?t=1311343536

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p104/skier46/IMG00192-20110722-0902.jpg?t=1311343572

Edit: Ignore that bottom tag. Did it at like 4 in the morning lol.

Jokz
07-22-2011, 02:16 PM
i was too lazy to try and fit in a "Z" lol
colours pop more in real life tho... shittay camera ftw

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6030/5964989712_c9768e3f90_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jokz/5964989712/)
Jok(z)? (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jokz/5964989712/) by JokzOner (http://www.flickr.com/people/jokz/), on Flickr

OvanOne
07-22-2011, 02:32 PM
cool letters bro, only the o seems a bit bad...

and about the colors, download photoshop and edit them there :)

nah!
07-22-2011, 02:53 PM
just some shity random words
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff497/NAHgraff/100_2356.jpg
i chose these at random i dont write any of these

Jokz
07-22-2011, 03:07 PM
cool letters bro, only the o seems a bit bad...

and about the colors, download photoshop and edit them there :)

yea wtv, its mainly about the letters anyways. thx for the comment man

Skeletor1134
07-22-2011, 04:26 PM
i was too lazy to try and fit in a "Z" lol
colours pop more in real life tho... shittay camera ftw

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6030/5964989712_c9768e3f90_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jokz/5964989712/)
Jok(z)? (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jokz/5964989712/) by JokzOner (http://www.flickr.com/people/jokz/), on Flickr


liking your colors and your style but the K is kinda throwin me off, still sick tho

Jiska Matos
07-22-2011, 04:46 PM
280892809028091
just testing my new molotow one4all 127 and 227. any crits?

TastyMcNasty
07-22-2011, 05:25 PM
jokz- sick, i dig that style, O is a little weak tho. and the arrows coming off the 3D is unnecessary.

jiska- no beef, but thats pre wack. if youre not gonna do keyboard letters at least simple it up and drop the extensions. but i do like the S on the last one

ribcage
07-22-2011, 05:27 PM
yo last one on the bottom is pretty good. The one above it could use some fixing of the proportions like the right leg of R is super thick compared to the thickness of all the other letters. Your extensions also make it so your letters arent defined, except for most of the very bottom one

Jiska Matos
07-22-2011, 06:57 PM
jokz- sick, i dig that style, O is a little weak tho. and the arrows coming off the 3D is unnecessary.

jiska- no beef, but thats pre wack. if youre not gonna do keyboard letters at least simple it up and drop the extensions. but i do like the S on the last one

thks for the crits, this was just a testing of the markers, can you give me any crits on the lion i posted here? itīs a project for the room of my young brother.
and thks to rib for the crits 2

ERAYS
07-22-2011, 07:16 PM
Yo Jokz thats pretty cool but i think you should work on the k, it kinda looks like a R

nah! - keep writing straight letters until u get the letter structure down solid and then you'll develop style naturally

MN Nice - i like that throw up, pretty clean...keep drawing

any crits for me?? not really feeling what i did with the Y and the A.

28092

Btw, this is like my 5th straight letter

DaFugg
07-22-2011, 07:32 PM
I don't know how bad the y and a is, but the fact your A is so far from the R really makes it look bad. try mirroring the top of your E with the bottom a little. looks dumb flat at the bottom like that. The R is was top heavy and the bottom leg looks a bit stumpy. Practice straight letters like the are on your key board. notice an R leg doesn't have to come from the corner of the top and horizontal and back bar. Keep working.

Jiska your characters are always boss, I like your style but work on them letters. I don't feel how squished the bottom of those S's are.

Jok, your k looks like an R other than that the shits sick to me.

One Evil
07-23-2011, 01:11 AM
http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o411/tcoley13/2011-07-21_23-32-18_764.jpg
What y'all think? Go critt^^^
REVNoner!

heres a crit work on ur tags they are totally POO and for ur simple... the R isnt to bad it needs a bit of work on the top left area and the bottom right leg also the E is way to small compared to your RVN 3d is pretty much good and make ur lines straight not all jagged as hell ur R especially!

Shroomsh
07-23-2011, 02:00 AM
since theres nothing but shit on this page, ill actually post something aight kids
this is what simple pieces look like when time is taken so Rev Noner this is what to look forward to.

for a hell nice chick, took about 4 hours straight for the record, done with fineliners
28116

Phat 2
07-23-2011, 05:23 AM
yall need to get off revn's case.
it's his choice whether he wants to progress or not. no one's concern If he doesn't want to evolve his style.
Lotta bombers out there doing chrome simps like these back to back all day, and they get more ups than any of us here. so as far as I'm concerned, my crits are the following: wear your lines cleaner, adjust those bar alignments on your R, get everything nice and smooth, make a proper shadow instead of the 3D/shadow mutant, and you're golden.
go destroy your city with that shit.

nah!
07-24-2011, 04:31 PM
nah! - keep writing straight letters until u get the letter structure down solid and then you'll develop style naturally
http://www.bombingscience.com/graffitiforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=28092&d=1311380138

umm how about you

SENS-Oner
07-24-2011, 11:39 PM
2822028221
sup guys, im new to the forum. check out my work. let me know what you think.

Messer
07-25-2011, 06:22 AM
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p157/best-BTK/PICT0126.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p157/best-BTK/PICT0127.jpg
thinking about making this into slapssss:
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p157/best-BTK/PICT0129.jpg

Phat 2
07-25-2011, 08:34 AM
SENS-Oner, the VERY most common graff name is Sense... anything like sens sense senser sensor whatever is worn out. hell I even have a Sens in my own crew here dude... you're defo not the first one to be writing sens one. I can also tell you that it's not too late to change it.

Skope2
07-25-2011, 09:03 AM
shroomsh - still killing it, nice work.
nah - you've got your bars even and they're going the right way, but your letters are pretty ugly, like the bottom of that E. I'd get rid of the connection from the A to the Y too.


Biro flik! Reads DEBTR - E doesn't fit the style properly, the forcefield is uneven/sketchy as fuck.28229

nah!
07-25-2011, 09:24 AM
that ERAYS wasnt my piece

Skope2
07-25-2011, 10:52 AM
Oh yea, fuck. Well then the crits are for the guy that you quoted.

Rezume_or_die
07-25-2011, 12:13 PM
28231
not entirely done, gotta put the colorful street fighter energy around his hands,
did it with prismas, micron and colored pencil(first time using dems)
but idk when i'll have the markers so for now enjoy, thats akuma btw

One Evil
07-25-2011, 12:52 PM
diggin that shit rezume6!!^

Strange Journeys
07-25-2011, 01:32 PM
debtr- the E's tight but everything else is wack

extinct
07-25-2011, 02:03 PM
...shitty flick for xist http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab251/xxextinctxx/0724012314a.jpg
and for a buddy
http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab251/xxextinctxx/0724012314.jpg

OvanOne
07-25-2011, 03:35 PM
Two of my latest drawings in the blackbook

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/206/b/0/ovan_a3_by_ant_h_raxx-d41miy1.jpg

http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/206/5/3/ovan_a2_by_ant_h_raxx-d41mirv.jpg

personally it hink the second one is good, but the first one sucks balls :)

Flawless Victory
07-25-2011, 03:43 PM
I have a hard time believing those two pieces came from the same person