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10-20-2011, 07:14 AM
that has to be the smallest pinky i have ever seen. you really suck at drawing hands. or you just really suck at drawing, period.

10-20-2011, 08:57 AM
Not hatin on u thotz, but this hand is a fucking shit. Learn anotomy if you want to draw hands.

Hers a doodle i did for you just now.

self crit: palm is too big, muscle under the thumb, fingers are fine.

Flawless Victory
10-20-2011, 10:07 AM
Yo, you guys must have been using some arthritic ass hands as a reference.

10-20-2011, 11:30 AM
lol that hand is way more retarded then mine, i just fucked up on the pinky a little. wow, some people really drank there haterade this morning.

10-20-2011, 11:50 AM
Yo, you guys must have been using some arthritic ass hands as a reference.

haha word up

10-20-2011, 11:51 AM
grey sketch with my home girl medusa


10-20-2011, 01:50 PM
yo, flawless give me crit, where did i fuck up? arthritic my ass.

and thotz hear me out: Look at the thickness of the thumb and compare it to the thickness of ring finger. pinky is deformaed. and what the fuck happened to the palm?

knowtheledge, eyes are fucked up, you missed some 3d under her chin, and arrows kind of doesnt fit, but liking it overall, keep it up!

10-20-2011, 04:02 PM
first post


10-20-2011, 04:06 PM
you fucked up most notably on the right part of the hand and fingers, the thumb doesnt look Bad, but it sure isnt good.
look at your hand, i really hope it didnt look like what you drew.

and ur self crits suck.

Knoledge, thats fuckin dope

10-20-2011, 05:50 PM
know - that is really sick

bump for crits

10-20-2011, 06:21 PM
i like SneeZ more just because it looks alot better and not like sh!t... yeeee diggg? and those self crits you gave your self are the one's iwould have givin you

Flawless Victory
10-20-2011, 06:21 PM
Yo Thotz, you remind me of a cat that was around here a year or two ago.
He was just as fucking delusional as you were, but he eventually got with the program.
Your head is too big, homie. I'm assuming you live in the burbs, been painting.... no, sketching for well under a year.
Not a single spot hit, you don't know shit.

and sneez, I can start by saying that the index finger has no knuckle

Know, you should fill that shit

10-20-2011, 06:29 PM
walter... i like it... but the L just was squished in. and im not diging the face in the U but thats just me... and welcome to BS.com lol

10-20-2011, 07:52 PM

10-20-2011, 10:26 PM
Walter - i think u have to many random extensions
Lizard - i like that, but i think it would look better with an outline and with the T straight

can i get some crits on my post now :)

10-21-2011, 12:27 AM
Ewal- top of the E is too long, left bar on the W is a lil wonky at bottom. And that right bar on the A is really weak, fatten it up, keep your bars consistent.
Tempo- do what Ewal and Lizard is doin, hella simples, you are bending ur bars too much too fast and adding weird fuckim shit. Its better then some stuff before though so ups on that...
Lizard- that I is a floating away but other then that ita dope

10-21-2011, 09:12 AM
dankbudz your crit sucks too. Didint do any good.

and its hard to draw bigger than natural/actual. Thats why i fucked up, but at least im tryin.

And here is my hand studies from last friday. give me crit on ones that ain't bad. and its big, format A0.

10-21-2011, 10:14 AM
probably cause yo bitch ass doesnt know the difference between right and left..

10-21-2011, 10:58 AM
shadow on the d needs some tlc and thicken up the !. All in all not a bad show. just noticed the shadow on the dot is going the wrong direction too. I like how you did the top portion of the E and feel the bottom should be a mirror of it. knock out some more.

10-21-2011, 11:23 AM
@know, REALLY clean. love it. the face looks kinda flat though..
@dank, eh the letters are reeeal simple and theyre kinda far apart, but i dig the colors and other than that bit above the D the shadow is correct. usually people mess that up

10-21-2011, 11:47 AM
Thot's, you need to even out your bars. Your structure is off. Do more simps.

Guy's.. He didn't mess up that hand. He just copied the man with the fucked up hand off of Scary Movie 2. Duh....

10-21-2011, 04:02 PM

10-21-2011, 04:10 PM
Original style. Not feeling the V on top of the T's, H is bad and that connect to the O needs work to look right. Cool Z though. Keep doing simples like that, youll get it.

10-21-2011, 05:23 PM
thanks for the crit man. that exactly what im shooting for is originality obviously with key graffiti elements. im looking around this forum, and with the exeception of a few, EVERYBODYS shit looks the same. fuck that.

10-21-2011, 05:57 PM


same pic just added lines, which one do u like better and some crits please

10-21-2011, 09:37 PM
Yeah Maybe I'll Get Some Fucking Crits Please.

10-21-2011, 09:52 PM
Yes, yes it definitely needs more arrows. But only if they all go in the same direction and come out of nowhere.

Scrape off the arrows so we can see the letters and we'll talk.

10-21-2011, 10:08 PM
what he said^^^^^^^^^ and outlline that shit so we can see it to

10-22-2011, 04:02 PM
seeing no E. hahaha i see an A I and R. but maybe the R is an E. haha

10-22-2011, 09:21 PM
ight fuck the troll
now back to the pics
pen freestyle exchage to sol, some old licker ? idk his name

10-23-2011, 09:59 AM

quick lil sketch

10-23-2011, 02:04 PM
Skina- props to the freestyle that shit look sick
toopski- looks good. gotta love the simple shit
foook yahhh

10-23-2011, 07:13 PM
Something I did the other day o.O I liked the idea behind it.. Any thoughts?38061

10-23-2011, 07:15 PM
heres a few38059380653806238063on the first sintar i fucked up by squishing the A and the R to close and overall it sucks. and i know im a toy thats why im in here

10-23-2011, 09:24 PM
wow fk me, not good enough for the intermediate thread? fuck this 1

10-23-2011, 09:27 PM
sup reach what you think of mine?

10-23-2011, 10:27 PM
Seeing some letters now?

10-23-2011, 10:29 PM
Mtk- looks like shit i used to do in kindergarden. Did you just start like yesterday?

10-24-2011, 08:54 AM
mr. hater, you already posted those shitty phone pics and based on your most recent sketch it looks like those aren't even yours. draw something new n prove me wrong dude

10-24-2011, 02:08 PM
some of my recent stuff

10-24-2011, 02:54 PM
new stuff, mostly from a boring ass drivers ed class on the weekend. crits?




10-24-2011, 03:20 PM

MN Nice
10-24-2011, 03:35 PM
I like that R on your second one.

10-24-2011, 05:10 PM

10-24-2011, 05:22 PM

Dude called me out, i wanted to battle. and we did. word was aser..

10-24-2011, 05:25 PM

10-24-2011, 05:26 PM
fear some of your stuff is pretty nice

10-24-2011, 05:27 PM
whoa, lets get this straight, i never called you out. i mistook this thread for the intermediate thread by mistake, and admitted my fault, mkay.

10-24-2011, 05:28 PM
wadup guys
newborn - hey how come your not in the toy battles often?
tasty - I allways like ur work more wit color, do you ever do an outline?

10-24-2011, 05:29 PM
OKOK my bad anyways good battle man, personally i just think you need to work on the flow of your letters a little more, the fundamentals are definitely there.

10-24-2011, 05:30 PM
block- make the letters the same size, and not scattered, then the piece will look better.
week- not bad, but dont focus too much on fills right now, until you get flow and structure down more.
mtk- those are bad, sorry man but its true. simplicity is the best way to go for now, so start off by doing keyboard letters, then see where you can go from there.
tempo- ya i occasionally do outlines, but i did not have the time.
and for those who havent noticed, me and newbornsek are in a little "beef battle", so go ahead and vote on your pick.

OKOK my bad anyways good battle man, personally i just think you need to work on the flow of your letters a little more, the fundamentals are definitely there.

and its all good man, my bad too. and i know what you're saying. your E in that last fear piece is on spot, but i think you;re trying too hard, putting too many extensions and stuff. oh and im thinking you may need some new markers ahah

10-24-2011, 05:32 PM
@fear F on your throw is steaz, except for the R your throw is nice. Everything else, not so much. keep on keepin on

10-24-2011, 05:33 PM
newborn - hey how come your not in the toy battles often?
Good question... ill rip the one this week thats for sure.. gonna try to be a little more active around here as i improve my sketching and hopefully help some people and out get some help myself..

10-24-2011, 05:44 PM
anyone else got crits on mine? thatd be dope

10-24-2011, 06:19 PM

. lewd
10-24-2011, 06:27 PM
wtf you dont do shit like this

10-24-2011, 06:33 PM
I fucked that R up like a prostitute, CRITS PLEASE!
@ tempo That e is a little weird, the m's are good tho.

. lewd
10-24-2011, 07:02 PM
you dont do shit like this either!!!

10-24-2011, 07:28 PM
damn that was informing

10-24-2011, 07:31 PM

10-24-2011, 07:50 PM
you went too crazy with extensions and crap, makes it look worse. and thats a real long nose for a ******

Shit Outta Luck
10-24-2011, 08:10 PM
Fear I'd be diggin your shit if you could throw down a better R, work on it, good luck dawg.

10-24-2011, 08:11 PM
almost looks like an alts bite. not saying it is tho so dont get your panties in a bunch. you or anyone else.

10-24-2011, 08:19 PM
^now that you mention it, i can see why you'd say that.

now can someone crit my stuff? thatd be cool

10-24-2011, 08:39 PM
I can only give you the same crits ive been giving you. If you want to keep with that style, expirement. Cause all your doing is the same lettering every single solitary time. Thicken those bars up bro, expirement with different directional bends, everyone of your pieces follows the same structural formula, so I cant give you different crits

O wait, now that I look, all those R's are fucked up. the circle part needs to be attached to the right leg. Think of the circle part and the right leg as one bar, keep em connected for now

10-24-2011, 08:48 PM
aight. and i've tried the thickening of bars, but it makes my letters look goofy. and i know what you're saying with the R's, they were bugging me too. thanks

10-24-2011, 10:01 PM
Yeah, this piece, the bars and extensions were all even. Till I fucked it all up when coloring with shitty markers.

Crits, besides how bad my handstyle is.


10-24-2011, 10:30 PM
@syn i dont like how the bottom bars flare out like that. maybe if you beefed everything else up it would look better, or maybe that was the markers, idk. Really liking the colors tho

10-24-2011, 10:31 PM
blaming it on the markers bro? cmon dude

10-24-2011, 11:07 PM
Yeah Lol Ribcage it's actually a small piece, and all I had was crayola fat markers. No fine tip. So I couldn't do the bars the right size because the outline is so huge.

10-24-2011, 11:22 PM
so, you are the markers bitch?

get me crits on dis

10-25-2011, 12:00 AM
i think that C is dope without the extension on top. H is pretty dope too, not feelin the lines inside the A and H though.

outlined it, imma crop my picture next time, haha half that photo is just white

10-25-2011, 12:25 AM
the bar I told you to slant is deformed lol.

And my favorite part of the 1 I posted is the lines inside the A and H. My C is suuuper top heavy, It was an accident. But I made at least one mistake on literally every letter

10-25-2011, 12:29 AM
you talkin bout the R? i was fuckin with it, but ended up sayin fuckit, woulda had to of changed up the D and E hella, nothin was working. gunna go for something better next time. this shit has beens sitting in my book for a few weeks hah. and yo, i aint no tard, i learned how to use computer

10-25-2011, 12:43 AM
yea the R. Man I got a few books goin now, and theres like at least 2 pencil sketchs in each just waiting to be changed or inked. On days im drunk I just sketch real dirty, and then turn the page.

10-25-2011, 03:49 AM

10-25-2011, 04:47 AM
hey dude, you should really try doing the same thing everytime but with a different bg or something. itd be suuuuper ill man. You and saiko could be kings if yall keep doin what ur doin

10-25-2011, 06:31 AM
I did one like that a couple years ago sorta lol38292

10-25-2011, 07:34 AM
Thotz not feeling it. My advice, drop all the extensions. Go simpler and hell... Try a straight letter, they look better than some mess with extensions that don't make any sense.

10-25-2011, 07:36 AM
trying to work on dressing up letters, flow, and symetry (sp?)

10-25-2011, 09:40 AM
not bad, i would say ditch the 3-d and just work letters for now. try some extensions outs between the letters.. and oh yah that A needs a lot of work

10-25-2011, 09:43 AM
My goal was to make the a the same as the k just upside down it the bottom bar connection.... If that makes sense.

10-25-2011, 11:03 AM
I already see things wrong with this but I'm always to lazy to fix little shit but crits?

10-25-2011, 11:40 AM
ill work on the extensions. and yea for some reason i always draw some mofo wit a long ass nose any other advice?

10-25-2011, 01:10 PM

10-25-2011, 06:55 PM
@rdoes those feet are to fat, shorten them up.
Crits on this please

10-25-2011, 07:11 PM
First full color 2 pager. What do you guys think? The word is EZAT. Looks weird cause some of the other lines from the trees cross over and make it look whack. Its also a new style anyway, so its sorta whack anyway. Crits though.


10-25-2011, 07:17 PM
Who buried the warriors gold?
thats what i wanna know

10-25-2011, 07:27 PM
38451wat yall think bout my E

Flawless Victory
10-25-2011, 07:29 PM
First full color 2 pager. What do you guys think? The word is EZAT. Looks weird cause some of the other lines from the trees cross over and make it look whack. Its also a new style anyway, so its sorta whack anyway. Crits though.


It seems like you spent more time on your background than on your actual piece.. spice it up, man!

10-25-2011, 07:43 PM
@tempo try bring E slanted to the left as well, i think it'll look cool imo

fucked up on the S can i get some crits don't really piece too much

10-25-2011, 08:17 PM
ATEZ (pure infected/bubbly type style)


ZETA (infected robot type thing... took my old style and added the bubbly stuff to it)

10-25-2011, 09:47 PM
trying on some extentions? and fills, I know the ink is a lil sloppy but anythots on some of those connections? thx!

zeta - its allways good to experiment bro, but I do believe in putting aside time to eventually trying some more simps

10-25-2011, 10:39 PM
Zeta dope linework
Tempo I'd say focus on letter structure before threedeez
been so busy lately but heres some sketches






10-25-2011, 11:09 PM
lol dudes boutta flip a pinner of some shwiggity shwag

10-26-2011, 12:11 AM
@knoledge- how did u begin wit a style to your first thoro thro

10-26-2011, 12:37 AM
Likin that "Gedi"

10-26-2011, 01:30 AM
lol dudes boutta flip a pinner of some shwiggity shwag I was going to say the same exact thing lmao

10-26-2011, 03:46 AM
"hey, lets put shitty weed and a cigar on my piece and maybe ill get more E-cred"

aand i realize this simp is pretty fucked

10-26-2011, 06:03 AM
I second that. as well as the yellow ruzr

10-26-2011, 08:57 AM
"Hey, let's judge a writer based on how good his weed is." Fuck it, even if it's mids not dank. At least he smokes.

I love the Mukes and the Gedi. Nice work.

Flawless Victory
10-26-2011, 11:00 AM
I'm about to start posing some of my shards next to my sketches

10-26-2011, 12:33 PM
"hey, lets put shitty weed and a cigar on my piece and maybe ill get more E-cred"

ahaha this ***** cracks me up! shoot

10-26-2011, 12:42 PM
I'm about to start posing some of my shards next to my sketches

tryin to? Ima post up some black tar and a pencil sketch

10-26-2011, 02:07 PM
@temp try to train your simpels like dank

10-26-2011, 02:23 PM
Syn- yo im not hating on his writing, now you just sound like a cheerleader faggot

Rdoes- structures not thaaat bad, but thers alot of nonsense goin on with all your extension and and such.

10-26-2011, 02:44 PM
extensions for filling up the page

10-26-2011, 02:50 PM
if thats your goal...

10-26-2011, 03:25 PM
Dank - I wasn't saying you were, you just sound like a prick.

10-26-2011, 05:29 PM
i know... its cause i am

10-26-2011, 06:05 PM
@tempo try bring E slanted to the left as well, i think it'll look cool imo

fucked up on the S can i get some crits don't really piece too much
bumping for a crit

10-26-2011, 07:12 PM

10-26-2011, 07:15 PM
38612 im still workin on the letters a lil bit..especially the e. givin me some problems ha

10-26-2011, 08:13 PM
Yo Thotz. Looks like it says ZHOr2. Do simples. You obviously do not understand letter structure and your pieces reflect that. Doing simples will help you understand proper structure and it will make your complex pieces look like something that other writers won't immediately write off as toy. I'm not trying to bash your work or anything (your lines seem clean and your ideas are different which is good), but what you need to do is take it one step at a time and not jump to burners when you cant do a proper simple.

10-26-2011, 09:55 PM
Looks like it says THOTZ to me. try again.

MN Nice
10-26-2011, 10:01 PM
You're fucking dumb. No shit it looks like thotz to you, you drew the fuckin thing. But its just human nature to think something looks good when you made it when actually is fucking garbage in other people's eyes.

10-26-2011, 10:08 PM

10-26-2011, 10:16 PM
thotz- why do you suck so bad, and still not even try to get better?

10-26-2011, 10:21 PM
i would probably have an answer for that if a gave a shit.

10-26-2011, 10:26 PM
some cases require more of a visual affect

10-26-2011, 10:41 PM
i would probably have an answer for that if a gave a shit.

>implying you're posting for yourself and yourself only

10-26-2011, 10:47 PM
what does it matter if i was or wasnt posting for myself?

10-26-2011, 10:53 PM

10-27-2011, 12:02 AM
Ima begin 2 pull back on all my the dark colors an keep it on tha light side. those dark colors thend too not good if jr me

10-27-2011, 12:26 AM
how have you not improved at all

10-27-2011, 12:54 AM
idenital as fuckin twin bars... :mad:

10-27-2011, 12:56 AM

10-27-2011, 12:57 AM

10-27-2011, 01:23 AM
lemme get some crits on the DERS

S is still fucked

10-27-2011, 02:50 AM
why is no one on...

10-27-2011, 02:51 AM
like ive all ways sed smooth clean bars, good width n heights any letters you despise?

10-27-2011, 02:54 AM
you could define d bit better, give it more angle on the right ba. and the first vertical bar is not straight. you could also put r closer and over e, cuz thers no gap beetwin other letters. actually the top bar of s is bit too thick, thers nothing fucked about it.

10-27-2011, 03:00 AM
i realize the vertical bar on the D isnt straight, thats what i meant to do, lol. i feel like it woulda looked too plain with a straight bar.
yeah i noticed that R as soon as i posted that shit up, was too lazy to move it and the S over.
and yea, i fixed the S, first one was maaad wobly and not a good curve.

10-27-2011, 04:17 AM
Temp, i'd add the yellow highlight to the middle bottom of the K leg just like you did with the N and make the stitch on the left leg of the N connect instead of being two separate small stitches

Laying Bricks!


10-27-2011, 04:37 AM
Tempos shit looks like a 2 year old scribbled on a piece of paper...

Shell- fix your D, that whole thing is mad sketchy

10-27-2011, 05:03 AM
Don't like the S or the E very much o.O

10-27-2011, 08:00 AM
im guessing youre talking about the 3d


10-27-2011, 08:10 AM
one more for the books...


10-27-2011, 10:21 AM
ruzr piece..aint feelin the r's much crits?


10-27-2011, 04:16 PM
looks a lot like RAZR, close the r off

10-27-2011, 06:43 PM
shell keep at it your on the right path starting simple as it gets make your lines cleaner use a pencil so you can have 1 defined line rather than a bunch of lines.

10-28-2011, 12:00 AM
Not really feeling this piece, testing out these prismas I just got. I might need to do even more simples. Yes I know my W is fucked beyond belief.


10-28-2011, 12:13 AM
take ur own crits, and these ones too. Start with teh S, gotta maintain the bar width bro, look how inconsistant it is on the curves, one of the main reasons it looks terrible. Then the K u gotta look at the same thing, like at the top of the left bar. Also, you gotta think of the 2 other bars of K as 1, you made a major fundamental error. THATS WHY WE DO SIMPLES. Bar width is off in spots on all the other letters too. The extended bar bottom of E is bad, and u already said adressed the W. The T has waaay too many extensions, looks awful, and so does the handy at the bottm

quit trying to exceed your capabilities and you'll start to realize the way your letters work.

10-28-2011, 12:17 AM
skewt-i like the t for my own reasons
dank- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
lil hang man action there any takers
razer- sharp lines bro >;l$

10-28-2011, 12:32 AM

10-28-2011, 03:14 AM
Shell - Good job. Just keep doing simples like your last one, but work on bar consistency and making your lines not shaky.
Know - Your style is unique, but it's really hard to read. You should define the letters more, but once you can do that it will be cool I think.
Syn - The T in the piece is kinda ok. Dump the rest of the piece. You need to work on your bar consistency and your 3d is off in a few places. Try staying simpler for now
Tempo - It just looks so dirty, not in a good way. You need to clean it up a lot. Also your letters haven't seemed to have improved at all in a long time. I think you need to practice trying to clean your shit up as well as just doing simple letters until they look good.
Thotz - I already gave you crits. I wasn't shooting you down like everyone else does on this site, but you shot down my crits like you did everyone else. I now want to know where you are so that I can fucking cross out all of your wack shit because your never gonna get any better. You dis anyone that even tries to help you out. So. Fuck you.

10-28-2011, 06:35 AM
^ this shit is the truth.
@thotz that "t" looks like a z, why would you only tilt one letter?
this is what this reads like

10-28-2011, 08:58 AM
thotz we can all see u know how to fill in a piece now u just have to learn how to master ur lettering it might take some time dont try to rush it everyone thinks u just start with pin skills well u dont think of ur blackbook as a wall u dont just throw a piece up u need an outline so start with a pencil and as ur skills improve u wont need it but always go back to it to make and master new styles i dont need this site to tell me what my skill level is all the old school writers ive met have done that and if u want to know where graffiti is heading check out seensite.com

10-28-2011, 09:13 AM
Honestly, I don't think it's out of my capability. I just think I didn't try hard enough. I'm going to do one more, take my time on it. If it comes out like shit. Back to simples. All of these crits that were given were good. But I already knew them. I just didn't apply myself.

10-28-2011, 02:33 PM
I fucked the "H" up....Crits?3884638847

10-28-2011, 03:04 PM
Space420 your a genius. all these fuckin toys on here really believe what they say to each other. WHO CARES WHAT ANYBODY THINKS ABOUT YOU AND YOUR STYLE, JUST FUCKING WRITE GRAFF! Fuck anybody who disagrees with me, i dont give a shit. Legends push on thru the haters, and dont give a damn if nobody is feelin there shit. I DO GRAFF FOR ME!!

10-28-2011, 03:10 PM
how about you just shut the fuck up? thats sounds like a better plan to me.

10-28-2011, 03:14 PM
how about you stop saying your doing graff for yourself, or stop posting on the internet for people (who arent you) to look at.

If your doing it for yourself, and you dont care, then why are you posting it here?

10-28-2011, 03:28 PM
Because i can do whatever the fuck i want. and yes, i write for me. What does it matter to you? is there a reason your on my nuts everyday?

10-28-2011, 03:50 PM
lol who are you to say my shit is sucks? or any of these toys on here? your style is plain, wack, simple, and has been repeated in graffiti about a MILLION times. so try talking to somebody who feeds into ur bullshit.

10-28-2011, 04:11 PM
Thotz - Stfu and quit bitching about other people saying all your shit is shit. It is, accept the fact and move on. If you're going to refuse advice then just quit posting, no one cares "you do it for you". You're making us see your shit. We don't want to if you're not going to improve.

Ok, well I actually applied myself on this one. I wish I would've taken a pic of the actual sketch with a pencil before coloring. My lack of skills in coloring is what throws a lot of my shit off.

I did it again, fucked up the K again, made the K as if it had 3 bars instead of 2 =/ Ohh well.. Fuck it.


10-28-2011, 04:33 PM
lol who are you to say my shit is sucks? or any of these toys on here? your style is plain, wack, simple, and has been repeated in graffiti about a MILLION times. so try talking to somebody who feeds into ur bullshit.

but see thats an important difference between you and I, I have style, you dont. you have a shitty throw bars on top of bars on top of bars on top of bars wannabe style

10-28-2011, 04:41 PM
Reach, crit me. Now.

10-28-2011, 05:22 PM
but see thats an important difference between you and I, I have style, you dont. you have a shitty throw bars on top of bars on top of bars on top of bars wannabe style
whoever said you had style LIED to you. you make no sense. shut the fuck up talking to me already. if you dont like my stuff, look the other way bitch.

10-28-2011, 05:31 PM
@syn looks dope man love the colors, screw this thotz guy

work in progress can i get some crits?

10-28-2011, 05:36 PM
SKEWT - you've definitely improved and I like that style mostly because it's paintable. as for crits.. the S is dope, the K needs some work like you already said it should be 2 bars, and the EWT aint too bad try experimenting with different ones still nahmsayin

10-28-2011, 05:39 PM
SAO - use even bars and take it easy on the kinks, once you got a solid simple style then you can add some stee to it you feel me

10-28-2011, 06:31 PM
idk why everybody is tripping on me. i never said i was a king. people need to learn to get off my nuts or something.
for everybody who cant see.

10-28-2011, 06:43 PM
i see zhorz. and either way thats a faggot ass word.

10-28-2011, 06:58 PM
lol. i just think its funny that everybody is comin at me, when the only beef is between me n reach, cuz hes a bitch. the rest of you cheerleading, skirt wearing, dick riders need to learn your place.

10-28-2011, 07:01 PM
thots aint nobody on your nuts, you just dont take any crits into account which defeats the purpose of posting in here anyways

10-28-2011, 07:05 PM
? how not? people said go simple, and i posted like five straight letter burners.

10-28-2011, 07:10 PM
there cud b 10 differnt dude who give a fuq an 90 who dont, 2 differnt opinions always leads to a waste of energy.
graffiti is suppose to counteract that wastefulness into something build able.

thotz - your a close mind fool your mad stubborn, nobody desires those qualities. go find some new ones the yellow brick road is that way ----->

syn - we all got our strengths n weakness's, thotz is weak, u got strength

- this crit occurd do to possession of the graffiti gods

10-28-2011, 07:13 PM
lol tempo, just take my name out your mouth. stop producing art that looks like a three year old created.

10-28-2011, 07:15 PM
son I would throw u down a long ass flight of stairs on some wwe ish kidd thass all ima say son have it yo way cuz i see that the only way you gone take it biyatch


10-28-2011, 07:19 PM
son I would throw u down a long ass flight of stairs on some wwe ish kidd thass all ima say son have it yo way cuz i see that the only way you gone take it biyatch
what the hell?? speak english dumbass.

10-28-2011, 08:14 PM
2 ears and 1 mouth = talk less and listen more

Shit Outta Luck
10-28-2011, 08:20 PM
Amen to that

10-28-2011, 08:50 PM
Crit/Post work. Or Toy Chat.

10-28-2011, 11:02 PM


Flawless Victory
10-28-2011, 11:40 PM
I am feeling that chiseled one.

10-28-2011, 11:54 PM

10-29-2011, 12:01 AM
Knowtheledge - Bottom one, def. The U in the top one could be misunderstood for an O... Maybe it's cause I'm drunk. Not sure. But... The bottom one is the best most def.

Tempo - Don't start shit.

10-29-2011, 04:29 AM
oooook man. i know you have nothing better to do but suckle on my nutsack. take a min to step back and kill yourself. pussy.


10-29-2011, 08:32 AM
childish beef in here was buggin me out at first but now its just funny word up

10-29-2011, 08:33 AM
O is too big, z kills the flow, too much space beetwin t and z, the upperline could come off more clean and i dont digg the connections of letters to upperline. the 3d/background thing is bad, dont do that.

here u go, crit with no hate.

10-29-2011, 10:07 AM
O is too big, z kills the flow, too much space beetwin t and z, the upperline could come off more clean and i dont digg the connections of letters to upperline. the 3d/background thing is bad, dont do that.

here u go, crit with no hate.

i agree fully, that black 3d backround KILLS that already half dead peice. if your Z wasnt so blah it might flow with the peice and give it some life.

10-29-2011, 12:30 PM
are you still alive? i thought we agreed you were going to killyouself reach?
@snees ceaze
the Z pisses me off the most, like you said it kills the flow, but i couldnt put a bend in it like all the others without the Z looking REALLY retarded. i personally think the background makes it jump off the page, like its supposed too. its not finished, but thanks for the helpful crits.

Strange Journeys
10-29-2011, 01:59 PM
this thread is wack no one posts anything good

10-29-2011, 02:59 PM
and your really helping by filling the thread with beef and bullshit, thanks for that, anyways on to what this thread was made for, this is a sticker i made last night. crits?

10-29-2011, 03:34 PM
? idk any bone that looks like that in my neck? i would have made the C a bloody spinal cord. pretty cool theme tho.

10-29-2011, 06:17 PM
2nd one is the best dawg

10-29-2011, 06:32 PM


Definitely need to go back and work on simples. Rushed through to try to find a dope style of my own, and missed the whole process of finding a style. I fucking suck

Edit: to give some context, I've only been writing graff seriously since about April, always been interested in it, but I could never draw. Drawing has never been my thing, ever. But for some reason it clicks in my brain differently now. Plus, plenty of my friends have been tagging for years and never ever thought to toss up a piece, let alone draw it. Plus, I mainly put up politically driven stickers, with a few icons I have.

10-29-2011, 08:43 PM
Ribcage crit mine on the last page. The new one you're doing is gonna look dope. I think the left half of your R is ugly.

10-29-2011, 09:39 PM
Crit my last shit? I need help with the H.

Ribcage- gettin fresh with the reach shit

10-29-2011, 11:41 PM


Need to draw some more permanent icons to scan and print more and more picture. So far, most of my stickers are stolen shipping labels and My name is stickers. don't usually scan those. (the scan shown is about four or five months old.)

10-30-2011, 12:06 AM
^that digital stuff is weird but it looks dope...
did this without really thinking about letter structure or anything so feel free to give me shit for it

10-30-2011, 12:34 AM

I was wondering if anyone could crit on this. A cat I met (can't name him or the crew, since I'm new, could fuck 'em up), said I should stick to this sort of style.

10-30-2011, 01:03 AM
it sucks got damn it all sucks so hard. seriously, i cant read that shit at all. Youve convinced me we need a bbook thread for what the fuck ever is worse than toys. get tha shit outta here.

he told you to stick with that style? ahahaha what a fuckin clueless ass toy. gawwwwwd im so elite.

10-30-2011, 01:35 AM
Look mole shit! 3895238953

10-30-2011, 06:04 AM

bump, posted it in toy chat thread, wasent spotted. Some crit on diz pls.
fuck, handies and throw are very weak.

edit: deleted the crown on bottom left, still looks like shit, lol.

10-30-2011, 07:31 AM
@sneez - are those real. i'd like to see those throwies on a lager scale like really work on that bottom one alot i'd like 2 C it after a month of work. what else if I can jus ask is your pic your personal photo?

@millix&bdubb - spend some dough on office depot composition books ...yeah

10-30-2011, 07:35 AM
DAEK - Try using another color for the 3d to really make it "pop" using the same color with weak shading doesn't do anything, the pyramid is out of place and random, and the highlights need work, and your forcefield is uneven among other things

Tempo - work on bars

Reach - Get those bars the same with all the way though, the top right bar of the R is too skinny and the two leg bars are different sizes, the left is too skinny and the right is too fat; for example. Good height and length except for the end H is too short on the bottom, Your 2 d is off on some places like the lower right leg of the R, should be a shadow below the leg not above, and the bump on the lower E leg should be lower.

Happy Halloween Bitches!


10-30-2011, 01:47 PM
? adress people as their screen name, not the name thats on the paper. thank you.

10-30-2011, 02:25 PM
I adress people by the name theyre writing. its just easier when critting cause i don't remember everyones sn on here. and you know who you are when i type your name, so whats the big deal?

dar- weak letters but a cool idea. the A looks ok. the D needs more structure and the r is just boring.

tempo the M and O look bad. the other letters arent too bad just need some fixing.

reach I see what youre going for but it doesnt look right. All the pointless bends and corners in the bars fit the style but dont look good as individual letters.

And millix holy shit do some simples i dont know what that says at all.

10-30-2011, 03:00 PM
no big deal.

lol I write reach, he was doing an exchange. why would u have to remember their screenname when its right next to the picture your critting?

so your giving crits to me on something i didnt do?

10-30-2011, 03:39 PM
I don't remember graffiti ever having to be legible. I like to intertwine my letters a lot. If it's a bulbous letter like C or O or a lowercase a, it's usually wrapped around a few letters around it. If I wanted people to be able to read what I wrote I would have just wrote the word.

Where's the fun in art if we all have to follow some rulebook?

I wish I had a steadier hand!

simple? from around July.

10-30-2011, 04:12 PM
do your thing, if you can pull off some elborate shit and make it look tight without every rockin simps and straights more power too ya... rarely ever works out that way though...

10-30-2011, 04:19 PM
i completly agree with ribcage you need to work on you simples

10-30-2011, 04:37 PM
trust me, I am going back. Taking a break from walls. Probably gonna work on the sticker printing aspect of graffiti, while I work on simples.

Already written the alphabet numerous times today.

10-30-2011, 04:46 PM
you already did wall's show some pic's of it if u want

10-30-2011, 06:31 PM

10-30-2011, 09:20 PM
Better than some of the shit posted on this thread. But not good enough.

10-30-2011, 09:33 PM
that handstyle is hurting and some of that 3d is off

10-30-2011, 09:37 PM
I know my handstyle sucks dick. And the 3d is only off because I didn't have room for a vanishing point or anything. I just eyeballed.

10-30-2011, 09:44 PM
aside from the spacing which i dont like to much i do like the letters look pretty good

10-31-2011, 03:04 AM
reach I see what youre going for but it doesnt look right. All the pointless bends and corners in the bars fit the style but dont look good as individual letters.

so its not all bout the flow than?N why would i want to make individual letter?

and im not reach.

10-31-2011, 07:53 AM

I like this a lot. I did Antik on pumpkins. One letter per pumpkin. just cutting out slivers of the outline making the letter dark negative space.

Posted this before repost for crits.

10-31-2011, 10:22 AM
Likin the "T"

10-31-2011, 12:43 PM
yeah i know you're not reach. when I said "reach", I was then referring to reach. Not you silly goose.

And you would want to make each letter look dope as an individual, but also make it flow nicely with the whole piece.

10-31-2011, 01:39 PM
yeah i know you're not reach. when I said "reach", I was then referring to reach. Not you silly goose.

exactly my point, who are you talking to?!!! cause you critted him calling him reach, but now you r refering to me as reach?!!!

lol he's syn, im MASTAH MAFUCKIN RIBCAGE... k?

10-31-2011, 04:26 PM
Hey Masta fucking Ribcage. He was talking to Sneez, not me.

No one critted mine, except for telling how bad my hand was. And I already knew that.

10-31-2011, 04:53 PM
stop crying and keep writing i think you got potential (critz from a toy)


11-01-2011, 07:47 AM
^ needs thicker darker outlines .
exchange on pg
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6039/6251219445_0ec9e52262.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/humrone/6251219445/)
IMG073-1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/humrone/6251219445/) by grinder13 (http://www.flickr.com/people/humrone/), on Flickr

red pen fun lol
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6229/6263661544_10c3dcaf9d.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/humrone/6263661544/)
IMG076-1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/humrone/6263661544/) by grinder13 (http://www.flickr.com/people/humrone/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6161/6263661680_eee2c3493d.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/humrone/6263661680/)
IMG075-1-1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/humrone/6263661680/) by grinder13 (http://www.flickr.com/people/humrone/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6228/6300167796_7677f9852f.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/humrone/6300167796/)
Snapshot_20111031 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/humrone/6300167796/) by grinder13 (http://www.flickr.com/people/humrone/), on Flickr

11-01-2011, 09:52 AM
http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/5161/sumn.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/855/sumn.jpg/)

Flawless Victory
11-01-2011, 10:45 AM
so its not all bout the flow than?N why would i want to make individual letter?
Uniformity =/= Flow.
Also, it's not all about the flow; if you want to be King Shit, then you have to have flow AND bars.

11-01-2011, 11:10 AM

11-01-2011, 05:16 PM

11-01-2011, 05:28 PM
dank i like it exept the S is bigger than all the other letters

11-01-2011, 05:29 PM
yeea dude and that top extensions gay haha

11-01-2011, 06:17 PM
its okay i guess not to great, but i did like the ders sketch u had posted dank id roll with that

11-01-2011, 07:45 PM
some decent stuff on this page.. rdoes.. get some real markers man, and your shit kinda looks like generic to me .. just my 2cents
everyone was giving me shit about my R so i tried something new
sticker i made for my buddy

11-01-2011, 08:30 PM
i like the first one

11-01-2011, 09:23 PM
newborn- at first glance the tops ones pretty dope. but looking closer its a lil wack. i like the F but the E imo needs some work

11-01-2011, 09:30 PM
Yah i have been loosing it on me e's as of late.. dont really know why haha but thanks for the crits guys i appreciate it and as always am looking to improve

11-01-2011, 10:09 PM
i see sumn in that 1st one lol

11-01-2011, 10:12 PM
First actual big piece I've done. Some of the bars are uneven. They aren't that bad out of wack. Crits besides uneven bars.

IMO, my W is waaaack as fuck. But... w/e


11-01-2011, 10:22 PM
I don't like the top of the "K" or the bottom of the "S" End the S before you hit the mid section. It's a good peice. Keep it up.

11-01-2011, 10:32 PM
work on simple straights, your extensions look like garbage, the 3d is off in a toooon of places, theres too kuch negative space, and the handy sucks. Thats a big piece? its 2 pieces of computer paper... try doing two full pieces of a4

11-01-2011, 10:43 PM
Aight, It's a big piece for me lol... But anyways. How the fuck am I suppose to learn how to do extensions without actually doing them? I can do simple straights. I just hate them because they are so fucking boring. And the 3D... I just need to stop eyeballing shit. I never actually straight edge it out.. I feel like that doesn't help. You can't use a straight edge on a wall.

11-01-2011, 11:13 PM
if you cant do a good straight its a 90% chance you cant do anything else well. You wont learn how to do them without trying yes, but you will NEVER learn how to do them if you dont learn how to do your letters first... Who uses a straight edge? ever? I havent touched a ruler since high school. you should be able to eyeball it out by now, and be able to position your letters in the way that you wont have any awkward 3d

11-01-2011, 11:37 PM
I got you. I can do a straight. It's just before I color I look over it. I never notice my inconsistencies until I actually post or something. I need to start taking pics of my sketches before color so it helps me notice my bars being uneven. I can do a straight. Only problem is that I don't take enough time to look over it before I begin coloring.

And yeah.... I haven't gotten the whole position your letters for no awkward 3d... I have a few spots always that has awkward 3d.

11-01-2011, 11:48 PM
easiast ways to do 3d is straight. straight up straight down straight to the right or straight to the left. I wouldnt do any angled 3d until you get the basic 3d down.

you should be able to look at all the incosistancies of your piece while its still in pencil. Make your sketches clean if u cant eye it out when theres lines everywhere.

11-02-2011, 08:38 AM
39169 Meh, I hate this piece but I could use some crits on it. I already know a few things that should have been done differently. This is on my friends ceiling tile.

11-02-2011, 08:59 AM
in ur eyes uts very nice.... ours no same

11-02-2011, 01:27 PM

Hey guys, any better? covered five or six college ruled pages front and back with the alphabet.

11-02-2011, 01:38 PM
Millix: Not simple enough and your alphabets are wiggly and inconsistant. Straighten them up and keep'em even. see the "new to graffiti" thread for tips and tricks.

11-02-2011, 02:08 PM
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6037/6306848232_2497af9d2c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/humrone/6306848232/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/humrone/6306848232/) by grinder13 (http://www.flickr.com/people/humrone/), on Flickr

Shit Outta Luck
11-02-2011, 02:20 PM
I wish I had been a teenager in '82.
Here's some shit

11-02-2011, 02:27 PM
39169 Meh, I hate this piece but I could use some crits on it. I already know a few things that should have been done differently. This is on my friends ceiling tile.
the best thing about that piece is that it's on a celing tile. straight up im stealin that idea haha. as for crits id say get rid of most if not all of the extensions, since alot of them come out of nowhere and serve no purpose. bars could use some work but aren't that bad. overall i like it .

and centry that piece is sick but sams are shit. smoke phillies.

11-02-2011, 02:43 PM
thanks an i dont think i can get phillies here lol there for sams!

11-02-2011, 03:31 PM
phillie and owl rippa i been a willy for a while nigguh!

11-02-2011, 03:59 PM
Another attempt.


11-02-2011, 04:03 PM
1st one was better.

and lol that sucks man. where i live in canada they have phillies in every convenience store. only thing i can never find is swishers. its a fuckin tragedy

11-02-2011, 04:15 PM
All we have around here is swishers lmfao.