Blackbooks

[BigBend]

haha thankx bro and will do.
jiska really digging the colors and pieces

[ribcage]

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rob react.
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not the only biting going down in these threads............ fuck the web, yall lil faggots cant comprehend not biting. I swear any one who comes here when they first start and or are "trying to learn" always are retarded. ALWAYS. ALWAYS RETARDED.

[Tempo718]

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Did this in August but probobly never posted it cause I thought it sucked.

@ Jiska - that middle one is pretty nice wit the bear n' all that. It say AMOTE yeah?

@ Gemer - your letters are a lil inconsistent in size.

I got to say I got my work cut out too, but I will probobly stay with this general concept for letters i've been doin unless some1 convince me otherwise.

[gemer]

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[dankbudz]

that dudes creepin

crits?

[Fain]

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[Phat 2]

http://i.qkme.me/CHM.jpg

[JUANASAUNA]

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[Shell703]

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee183/Whispem703/001.jpg

Bump for crits...

GEMER - Yeah, I don't have any decent markers at the moment - did you say my shit is not real?

[BigBend]

heres a better pic. i had to put laminate paper over it so it wouldn't smear so that's what you see that is wrinkled
HAEC
http://i44.tinypic.com/126db3o.jpg

[Phillip McDougall]

getting better, keep it up. Learn how to shade cleaner.. I don't want to see any lines.

[gemer]

agree^^ definatly gettin better with em big bend but fer sure shading is a bit down hill keep em comin tho there gettin better
@ shell703- nuttin to special man no ones critiqing it cuz its lamee no affence but it looks just like the A on my keyboard except sloppier and with color haha

[SynOne]

On the bottom one my apple green was dead so the S didn't get colored correctly =/. Crit em.

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[gemer]

@shell 703 no ididnt say it wasnt real haha i meant to put its not really* original
@synone liken the bottoms style but not really liken the k or e and maybe the r lol but still diggen them i guess keep em comin there gettin better

[Wonky]

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[dankbudz]

finished dis up

[gemer]

@ wonky i like the bright colors idk about the lettering tho man wack extensions coming from no where and did you trace the bottom one or somethin cuz there both like theeeee exacttt same just different color haha the bubbles are even in the same spot.....go more simple man do tons of drawings not just one and then trace over it again and again just recoloring it gotta get better and you wont that way
@dankbuds looks pretty good for a simple structures all there just not diggen the D keep em comin tho man youll get better

[Wonky]

oh I shoulda said I fixed that bottom one in Photoshop / tried different colours and straightened the image out. By the extensions you mean the sill arrows coming out all over the place?

[SkateJunt]

any improvement?
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7142/6517991109_c2df23f8f5.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6517991109/)
Picture 164 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6517991109/) by akryllian through ya head (http://www.flickr.com/people/69411978@N04/), on Flickr

[SkateJunt]

another one
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7141/6518077271_fdb392a57e.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6518077271/)
Picture 165 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6518077271/) by akryllian through ya head (http://www.flickr.com/people/69411978@N04/), on Flickr

[TastyMcNasty]

heres a better pic. i had to put laminate paper over it so it wouldn't smear so that's what you see that is wrinkled
HAEC
http://i44.tinypic.com/126db3o.jpg

getting better, like phil said, try to make none of the outer lines visible.
and as for smudging, invest in some of this, really worth it: http://www.krylon.com/products/workable_fixatif/

[Mr. November]

Yo Skate I think the top picture straight letter might be the best straight letter I've seen you do. Real improvement, but you still need to be working on your letters.

Your tag and your throw need major renovation though. It doesn't really look like you've changed anything on your tag.

[SkateJunt]

what do you think i need to change on my tag?

[Mr. November]

You are trying to force style into your letters in a way that makes it not flow as well. the letter that needs the most work is your Y in my opinion.

[SkateJunt]

thanks, yeah i dont know how to make my y work with the rest, ima screw around with my tag tonight and try to come up with something nicer.
some more straight fuckery
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7144/6518467785_b0e6b0dfdf.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6518467785/)
Picture 166 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6518467785/) by akryllian through ya head (http://www.flickr.com/people/69411978@N04/), on Flickr

[JUANASAUNA]

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[MN Nice]

Yikes. ^

[dankbudz]

thats what ur shit used to look like, mn nice...

[MN Nice]

thats what ur shit used to look like, mn nice...

Emphasize on the "used to"


Some bs. Bars are inconsistent and 3d is probably off a bit, but its just a concept I quickly did.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p104/skier46/IMG00493-20111214-2159.jpg?t=1323921843

bump

[Shell703]

MN - I think it'll look better if the loop on the U were on the outside of the U

Skate - Try keeping in mind bar width consistency throughout each letter

HAER - The bars on each of the letters are different, I don't know if that was deliberate or not and I don't think the C flows with the rest of the piece. I think it'll look better if there was some kind of consistent font style throughout the whole piece, or if you want to keep it varied like that I'd emphasize it more, like make it each letter drastically different, but each letter its self should have a consistent bar type throughout the individual letter. Also, the way the letters are set up, the H should be making a shadow on about half of the A ect., etc...

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee183/Whispem703/022.jpg

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee183/Whispem703/019.jpg

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee183/Whispem703/017.jpg

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee183/Whispem703/016.jpg

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee183/Whispem703/015.jpg

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee183/Whispem703/014.jpg

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee183/Whispem703/013.jpg

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee183/Whispem703/011.jpg

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee183/Whispem703/010.jpg

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee183/Whispem703/002-1.jpg

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee183/Whispem703/001-2.jpg

[gemer]

like to see the freestyles shell nice simples there comin along

[BigBend]

aight thankx shell ill keep it in mind next time and yes they were deliberality drawn different like that

[Wonky]

Working on my structure - this is supposed to be a simple, but I still fucked about with it. Worth inking? I kinda like it (it's pay day today!)
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[centrysam]

@shell. like the 3rd pic
@wonky.. nice. would be better if bars wasnt broken so much

crits?

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7161/6517605297_ce4f765b82.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/70896708@N08/6517605297/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/70896708@N08/6517605297/) by centrysams (http://www.flickr.com/people/70896708@N08/), on Flickr


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7027/6517823347_198ebed0c2.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/70896708@N08/6517823347/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/70896708@N08/6517823347/) by centrysams (http://www.flickr.com/people/70896708@N08/), on Flickr

[Wonky]

Too many chips and breaks? Maybe i'll cut a few back - do they break letter structure? I like yours there sir, the second one looks sweet but I can't read it.

[PETER]

bigbend: Using a pencil make 12 1"x1" boxes that are connected in a row (very ligthly). Then starting at black fade to white. Try to have a smooth even fade from one to the next with no hard pencil lines. Try holding the pencil under hand so you get more surface of the graphite on the paper.

[SynOne]

I really need to stop rushing these... =/

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[Phillip McDougall]

No, you just need to make cleaner lines. It's all practice.

[Wonky]

What do you reckon to my sketch Phil? Went back to simpler style, and really worked hard on structural integrity... Too many breaks?

(I also accepted my place as toy ;) )

[Phillip McDougall]

It's not that there are too many, there's too much space between your breaks. Make them less exaggerated, and it'll look better. Make your P bend like the Y. The A should be completed on the bottom, or else it looks like some weird letter that doesn't exist. And try not to sketch your letters. Use single, clean lines. It'll help you when you're painting, too.

[Wonky]

Yeh I made some adjustments already - it's sketched because I was trying really hard to get structure right. I'm gonna rub it right back and go again in clean single lines. I have fixed the a, I might have to do some work on the curves. There is so much more to getting this shit looking just right than I realised. I now realise what a fucking toy I am lol

[Wonky]

You think the chip on the bottom of the a curl needs to go and that should link?



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Now I inked the outline, I realize what you were saying about the breaks. I fucked up the Y because it doesn't look like one anymore...


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[always crushin]

for the battle thread
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/-syke-/skws37.jpg

[Wonky]

Coloured it - made a pigs ear of it. Looks shit. Still, i learnt how to balls up decent structure with breaks. Onwards and upwards.


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[Tempo718]

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lil ruff draft warm up today. need to do this type stuff more often na mean.

wonky - not bad bad bro, drop the extra stuff for now. keep the letters solid.

crushin - allways unique

syn - you might try getting consistant letters before adding on color and 3d

[Tempo718]

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tryin to get this shit right side up... wtf

[Simon]

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crits?

[Mr.Hater_666]

That last kirsty is fresh

[m4rsh]

ok, so i literally started learning graffiti about an hour and a half ago so dont expect perfection (ive seen so many pretentious and arrogant posts here from 'eletists')

but yeah, its pretty generic but i aint done it long enough to adopt my own style and flow yet

http://i44.tinypic.com/21eyp6o.jpg

[EWL24]

crits please
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^^ work in progress

["PHYSH"]

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a little something from Lebanon.....

[SkateJunt]

lovin fuckin around with straights lately, the shadinf on the y is fucked a bit, and the left bar of the y kinda fucked up too, but any crits?
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7027/6526504725_7185d73986.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6526504725/)
Picture 167 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6526504725/) by akryllian through ya head (http://www.flickr.com/people/69411978@N04/), on Flickr

[Phillip McDougall]

The R fucks up the flow. Chicken bone nowison.

[SkateJunt]

yeah im not gonna do that extension on the r anymore, i was just trying it out. how are my other letters though?

[Wonky]

Chicken Bone?

[MN Nice]

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p104/skier46/IMG00494-20111217-1357.jpg?t=1324152244

[Wonky]

Tight as fuck MN

[Phillip McDougall]

get some flow in there now.

[SkateJunt]

exchange i did for my friend, pretty wonky but still any tips?
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7026/6475034577_87b15c97b3.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6475034577/)
Picture 134 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6475034577/) by Stewart Stevenson (http://www.flickr.com/people/69411978@N04/), on Flickr

[Wonky]

Fitted in three sketches today, not going to bother inking or colouring anything else until I get some structure and legibility going. I would like to inject some flow too, not sure when flow is not just breaking structure atm so trying to cut the shit out. Yesterday's effort was wank - especially when coloured (I fucked that right up)....



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[Phat 2]

mn nice, top one is where it's at. go roll that up on some highway or a heaven spot somewhere. maybe find a well visible rooftop.. but props. not a fan of the bottom one. you got very similar things going on with ribcage where you two have a lottta edges and not enough curves so all your letters look kinda stiff and lack motion or fluidity...

[EWL24]

MN - i really like the top one, u should give it some 3d now
Wonky - the last one is the best, but the K to S connection is really bad

wtf, why am i not getting any crits on mine?? can i get some crits now

[Mori]

MN dope on the top. Would be fire with an outline and 3d. Roller steeze

[Lado]

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[MN Nice]

mn nice, top one is where it's at. go roll that up on some highway or a heaven spot somewhere. maybe find a well visible rooftop.. but props. not a fan of the bottom one. you got very similar things going on with ribcage where you two have a lottta edges and not enough curves so all your letters look kinda stiff and lack motion or fluidity...

The reason why it may seem like my shit looks like ribs is because I like how his work has great structure to his letters, so I wanted to make sure that I get a solid understanding of my bars before I try to add some funk to it. And after doing that and posting it on here to get some crits, people just assume i'm trying to jack his work and make it mine. But its not like that at all, if you were to look at any other of my works you would see that I'm trying to get my own steeze rollin. It'd be completely different story if everything I posted was similar to his. but hey, I'm toy and I'm just trying to learn. All writers flourish off each other as well as inspire others.

But thanks for all the good looks on the upper one guys, I probably will throw some 3d and an outline on, but should I do white 3d and a colored outline?

@Lado - if you did both of those, you have good structure but your extensions are not working well. That Lest piece would be great if the the bottom bars weren't barely hanging on and the Dotch one would be better if your D was a bit bigger to match the T and the extension on the H is breaking the flow. Keep sketching.

[EWL24]

MN - white 3d and colored outline sounds like it would look really cool on that, but make sure u outline it with a bright color so it really pops

[cwks]

46089460904609146092 buddys peices

[EWL24]

^^well you can tell your buddy to start doing Keyboard letters cause those suck

[Phillip McDougall]

Yo wake, the second one is the only good one. Use the structure from that to start making other letters. Keep developing that, and you'll have a solid idea for structure in no time. I really recommend doing an alphabet to be well rounded, but a lot of people just focus on the letters in their name.

[Lado]

@Lado - if you did both of those, you have good structure but your extensions are not working well. That Lest piece would be great if the the bottom bars weren't barely hanging on and the Dotch one would be better if your D was a bit bigger to match the T and the extension on the H is breaking the flow. Keep sketching.

Word! Thanks a lot man, I wasn't too hot with the D on the dotch piece, but I really appreciate this.

[EWL24]

bump for crits
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^^slightly changed the E and A
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[Phat 2]

y u mad tho?
the proportions in the first one are off
and you really took your revenge in the second one... kinda went overboard with the curves didn't you? lol, I mean it ruined allll the letters there, I'm seeing random e's and P's and g's and o's in places they shouldn't be

[SkateJunt]

what does it say? some more straightsssssss
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7165/6534076121_fe524ced23.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6534076121/)
Picture 168 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6534076121/) by Stewart Stevenson (http://www.flickr.com/people/69411978@N04/), on Flickr
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7034/6534075781_6cb38dd8a5.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6534075781/)
Picture 169 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6534075781/) by Stewart Stevenson (http://www.flickr.com/people/69411978@N04/), on Flickr

[SynOne]

I dig this one. Crit it.

Mues - That top one is boss.

Wonky - Forget your instincts and trying to make it look good, do straights. Shit like SkateJunt is doing.

Skate - You're getting better, you just need more practice is all. It looks like you have the eye for even bars, it's just you can't really outline it well with a marker (I do this in every piece). You'll get better. Keep it up.

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[SkateJunt]

thanks man, i like how that extension on the s looks. and sharpies arent the best for outlining, they dont flow at all on paper, and theyr just horrible overall, but im not trying to make excuses, i just dont take that much time on drawing straights, im just trying to get some nice letters that i can go and paint

[SynOne]

The one I posted is actually on copy paper, outlined with a sharpie. I understand completely.

[SkateJunt]

yeah on copy its a lil nicer, but on lined and graph paper its nasty, and thats a sick colour of sharpie, whered you find it?\edit: nevermind haha i have that coulour it was just deep under alot of papers

[SynOne]

^ Just the outline is sharpie dude, the colors are prismas. I hate sharpies, but my blacks on my prismas are both more deceased than JFK.

[SkateJunt]

i need to grab myself some propper paint markers, maybe il buy some if i get any cash for christmas

[gemer]

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[Tempo718]

thas wassup

[MN Nice]

Crits would be appreciated.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p104/skier46/IMG00499-20111219-0026.jpg?t=1324276064

[Mori]

That's destine for a heaven spot mn. I'd say go grab some buckets and let's see it painted mate. but consider taking the white around it instead of having a black outline and black fill. I think that will give the letters a little more readability. Overall that's a solid piece imo

[MN Nice]

I was talking for the top piece but thanks anyways. I havent even tried a roller yet but I've always been into them.

[EWL24]

is there a reason im not getting any Crits?? :mad:

MN - notice how ur MU are both leaning in the opposite direction of ur ESR, it would look better if they were all leaning in the same direction. But every thing else about it looks good, ur stuff is looking better every time

[Tempo718]

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lil practice this morning.

@ewl - be patient you'll get ur crits, keep on bro

@MN - I like it, is this something ur testing out or been doin?

@germer - I see ya, nice letters

[MN Nice]

@Ewl - I tried doing that actually lol make it seem like the M and the R and pulling away from each other

[TastyMcNasty]

http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff518/TastyMcNasty/Graffiti/IMG_2526.jpg

for nark

[SynOne]

This was big fucking fail, was testing some shit. Not even going to finish it. But any tips on somethings that worked/why it didn't work?

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[PETER]

Syn: The 3d is a little off. The curve on the R is the worst part of the 3d. I think the K/E is a bit odd. I like the E, but I think having it curve at the bottom and lean on the K would have worked a little better. The R doesn't seem to fit the style. It looks a bit more plain and has a lot of dead space under it where the rest of the piece has none. I wouldn't say a complete fail. You're getting better that's for sure.

[SkateJunt]

came up with a new throw today, any crits?
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7167/6539819453_019bd31b47.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6539819453/)
Picture 170 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6539819453/) by Stewart Stevenson (http://www.flickr.com/people/69411978@N04/), on Flickr

[Wreck-one]

This was big fucking fail, was testing some shit. Not even going to finish it. But any tips on somethings that worked/why it didn't work?

46341It looks good, i just think the W is whats throwing it off.

[Phillip McDougall]

came up with a new throw today, any crits?
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7167/6539819453_019bd31b47.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6539819453/)
Picture 170 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6539819453/) by Stewart Stevenson (http://www.flickr.com/people/69411978@N04/), on Flickr

Try making your letters a little less lifeless. Think of a throw as a gang sign. You want it to be thrown up looking like, "AW FUCK YEAH," not like a limp dick. When I have a day that I'm not doing anything, I'll come into the Toy thread and do quickies to help people develop throwies, because throws are the hardest thing to make for yourself when you're a toy. I sucked SO hard at throws. haha.

[SkateJunt]

thanks man, yeah i realize i need to put more flow into them, heres another straight for crits
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7012/6540254243_b80b478fa6.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6540254243/)
Picture 171 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6540254243/) by Stewart Stevenson (http://www.flickr.com/people/69411978@N04/), on Flickr

[Phillip McDougall]

your base bars in the K and R are too thick. You want consistency.

[TastyMcNasty]

http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff518/TastyMcNasty/Graffiti/IMG_2526.jpg

for nark

bottom page bump, for crits

[poisn]

46366 its one of my first.....any tips? i would be thankful

[Sync1]

A lil something... trying some new stuff out and I was bored. =/ Tell me what you guys think! Please if you can give me any tips on improving and getting better I'd much appreciate it. C&C please! Thanks!

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/3875/syncnew.jpg

[EWL24]

Skate - why do u never fully color in ur pieces? dont u think it would look better if u took some time to completely fill it
Tasty - i think u should start making ur letters fatter so it doesnt look so long and skinny
Poisn - use bars and work with simple keyboard letters

colored this in today, crits are always welcome
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[gemer]

@tasty styles there and all and structures pretty good but i think its sloppyyyyyyyy
@poisn wowww work on structure more.....do nice block letter just like you see on your keyboard
@sync pretty sweet man im diggen but then again im not..not sure wut it is but overall pretty dope
@ewal not diggen the a' but the rest is alright man keep em comin

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[Tempo718]

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Revised over a few things.

Gemer - Nice sketchin'

Skate - That mos' recent one keep up on that, big difference

Tasty - Not feelin' it son

Poison&Syn - Jump on the alphabet keyboard letters bandwagon ma dudez.



Ewl&Sync - Nice colors n' all that but your letters could flow in a differnt way na mean.

[SkateJunt]

Skate - why do u never fully color in ur pieces? dont u think it would look better if u took some time to completely fill it
Tasty - i think u should start making ur letters fatter so it doesnt look so long and skinny
Poisn - use bars and work with simple keyboard letters

colored this in today, crits are always welcome
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sharpies dry out really fast so i dont like to waste them, but il try to take some time to fully colour some stuff, id just rather focus on letters right now, to be honest i dont give a shit about fills, because a nice fill with bad letters looks shit

["PHYSH"]

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some characters????

[SynOne]

Tempo - Yeah, I don't need to get back on keyboard letters. But thanks for trying to crit.

[Tempo718]

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[SynOne]

Tempo - On your R the leg needs to act as part of the Loop (Pic Below because I suck at explaining.) Really the only thing that needs to line up is the bottom point they meet.

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[sadgeh]

Tempo - Its cool and simple, be creative and do some things with it. Experiment and look if its good but post it.

Crits on these?
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["PHYSH"]

so i gotta ask for crits??????

[SkateJunt]

yup

[gemer]

@rook not liken the first one wack extension bottom ones alright tho good the structures gettin better

[sadgeh]

Crits on these?
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bump

@Physh yes for some reason.

[EWL24]

sharpies dry out really fast so i dont like to waste them, but il try to take some time to fully colour some stuff, id just rather focus on letters right now, to be honest i dont give a shit about fills, because a nice fill with bad letters looks shit
working on letters is the main goal for all of us, but working on fills can actually help u. I have some old drawings were u can see all the lines from the marker in the fill and then its lighter on one side and darker on the other, so if u work with makers a lot ur pieces wont look like that.

[SkateJunt]

yeah i know what you mean, but i dont intent on painting a piece for a long time, until i can sketch them black and white with ease, heres some more straights
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7158/6546184211_bfae75c6bd.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6546184211/)
Picture 173 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6546184211/) by Stewart Stevenson (http://www.flickr.com/people/69411978@N04/), on Flickr
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7165/6546184473_4e2d1df00d.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6546184473/)
Picture 174 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6546184473/) by Stewart Stevenson (http://www.flickr.com/people/69411978@N04/), on Flickr

[always crushin]

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/-syke-/skws39.jpg

[SkateJunt]

tight as fuck^

[always crushin]

thanks holmes

[Wonky]

I can't read it Crush...

I am going way simple after the car crash I produced yesterday...

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[Skadeem]

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/-syke-/skws39.jpg

It says shake right? If so I'd work more with the H but it's really all personal preference at this point and it does have some nice flow. The scribble above it makes me laugh reminiscently.

[always crushin]

ya it reads shake man my handstyles are my weakest yet strongest point i do my pieces in handstyle form before pieceing but hands for taggin are garbage because i cant do the same tribal letters fast enough.
exchange with slaer
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/-syke-/skws40.jpg

[gemer]

dopee style mann ^^ good stuff

[Phillip McDougall]

That shit is way dank slotr. I'm gonna have to step my letter game up for that one, thanks for the healthy competition.

[always crushin]

no worries phil you said you wanted some practice.

[Wonky]

Anyone like my Simp? Any crits / advice?

[Tempo718]

allways - i feel i should be doin wat ur doin building structure through a more complex handstyle i've heard its critical in development around here but i dont know when is the right time to open that can of worms.

[always crushin]

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/-syke-/skws48.jpg

[EWL24]

Wonky - the leg of the Q is a bit fat and the extensions coming off each letter are kinda weird,but other then that it looks good, keep doing simps like that

[Wonky]

Tried this again - better?

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[Phillip McDougall]

Stop doing that connect letter thing. Just stick with doing the letters individually. The only letter that looks good is the W, and you need to take those bent bars off it anyway.

[Wonky]

Cheers - I don[t really need to add that stupid shit but i'm trying - actually the blocky letters are kind of interesting - they would be if I could add some slant and flow...

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[Wonky]

thought id try one more sketch, keeping letterforms nice and simple, took some advice (thanks crushing) and did something a bit more rounded and organic...


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[Tempo718]

Gr8

[knowtheledge]

havent been on in a while heres somethin for your eyes

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7145/6554890473_3d63c76905.jpg

[PETER]

trying to work on this letter style. Looking for some tips. Old exchange
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[knowtheledge]

and a quick pen freestyle before I go out to skate

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7165/6555105875_403fcc0cb0.jpg

[SkateJunt]

changing my name to gerb. feels like it would be nice to bomb with and its kinda a jokes name in a way. as in it would be jokes to see everywhere. taking it out bombing tonight.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7159/6556130497_d95b82c622.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6556130497/)
Picture 176 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69411978@N04/6556130497/) by Stewart Stevenson (http://www.flickr.com/people/69411978@N04/), on Flickr

[always crushin]

showing tempo what i mean by when i do my pieces like my hands or "used" to, cuz i freestyle alot more now.
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/-syke-/skws52.jpg

[Sync1]

@knowtheledge: Looks clean yo! :)
@SkateJunt: Gerb lol, nice one! Now go bomb it everywhere! :D
@always crushin: That's a nice way of getting ya letters! Never thought of it like that... hmm good work dude!

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Here's my recent. I couldn’t sleep last night so I ended up doing this… fact that I was in bed and all the letters are a little choppy. Oh well, what ya think? :)

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/1362/img3467x.jpg

[MN Nice]

Some pretty dope stuff on this page! Your throw has immensely gotten better, Junt. Know, fresh shit man. A freestyle that nice is next level.

Used a shitty walmart paint marker for the top one's fill but otherwise pretty good turnout.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p104/skier46/IMG00504-20111222-2005.jpg?t=1324606120

[EWL24]

thats a nice looking page u got there MN

['Crook']

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Can you give me crits please ?

[Wonky]

Think I should Ink and Color the insie piece? (bump for subscription... sorry!)

[sadgeh]

Crok - the bendings on the bottoms are ugly dont do that, make it straight.

['Crook']

Okay ty Sadgeh

['Crook']

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[Sync1]

Nice idea, I would work on the letters more and try to perfect em before starting to bring the arrows out. I have problems with that aswell... Keep it up! Looking forward to see more. Merry Christmas! :)

['Crook']

Thank you dude same to you ! :)

[Wonky]

Crits please!!

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[Phillip McDougall]

Arch is the closest thing you've got to a solid simple. Remember to use bars that are of the same thickness throughout the whole piece. Any deviation, unless intentional with flares or something will not look the right way

[Wonky]

cheers Phil, the others aren't that far away are they?

[MN Nice]

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Naw man, those extensions just ruin the piece. The only acceptable one is the kick off the R's right leg, otherwise the rest don't work. Also, thicken up your bars to match the C and let your letter flow naturally.

bump for crits



Used a shitty walmart paint marker for the top one's fill but otherwise pretty good turnout.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p104/skier46/IMG00504-20111222-2005.jpg?t=1324606120

["PHYSH"]

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crits..............

[Wonky]

Mn its hard to give you crits as you seem to have your style actually nailed. On the other hand it lacks 'funk'. Can you start adding some bend into your compositions?

[Tempo718]

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[Hick94]

new to the site....any critz..?
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/8449/img0144gy.jpg
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/4675/img0136lf.jpg

[SkateJunt]

maybe draw some more stuff instead of posting the same pictures all the time

[Hick94]

i could say the same for you everything you have on pg is here aswel and if you havent noticed pg is dead so im trying somewhere new...

[Wonky]

Sigh... MERRY CHRISTMAS - STOP BEING GAY

[SkateJunt]

yeah i post in both forums to get more feedback, but i post new sketches every day, im not tryin to talk shit, im just saying i saw that same pic like 2 weeks ago, looks like you never practice

[dankbudz]

stay high

[Hick94]

ya because i was doing exams didnt have the time...doesnt matter 4get about it.....

[Skadeem]

yeah i post in both forums to get more feedback, but i post new sketches every day, im not tryin to talk shit, im just saying i saw that same pic like 2 weeks ago, looks like you never practice

Sheeeeeeeeiiiiiit you only gotta see but one post to figure that out

[Colors]

naked and mues collab, both donoe by naked though
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naked 2 letter ice cream yum
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[MN Nice]

Word homie! I'll still working on yours man, I'll post it up in the exchange thread soon enough.

Edit: here it is. Trying to get some crits since I don't use these letters much other than the E.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p104/skier46/IMG00506-20111224-2352.jpg?t=1324792757

[EWL24]

whipped this up today, idk if any of u have seen Gremlins, but it takes place on Christmas
so...
Merry Christmas everyone, hope u all have a good day tomorrow :D
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[Pehotta]

add me if you stay in Jacksonville Florida. I have slaps around where i stay at and tags all over my city -pehotta

[Norfsuthr]

Ewal I dont like your E. decent otherwise though.
Naked those looks good.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7010/6567872221_aac6b7e1e2.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/52108332@N02/6567872221/)
oie_2582557g2UB8IHA (http://www.flickr.com/photos/52108332@N02/6567872221/)

[knowtheledge]

dope naked

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7018/6564743725_abc851ce0d_z.jpg

[Phillip McDougall]

Ewal I dont like your E. decent otherwise though.
Naked those looks good.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7010/6567872221_aac6b7e1e2.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/52108332@N02/6567872221/)
oie_2582557g2UB8IHA (http://www.flickr.com/photos/52108332@N02/6567872221/)

Disconnect the E from the N, or make a line break like you did with the Z-E at the top, and do it on the bottom of the Y too, then go paint it, because it's cool.

[Shit Outta Luck]

Dank when I saw that HIGH simple I immediately thought of Stay High 149 lol

[dankbudz]

haha dope

inside cover of the book, just messed around with some paint markers, my S is hurting, if you got crits id appreciate that shit

[MN Nice]

The outer leg of your R is a bit thin. Your tag is lookin nice though.

[Hick94]

quick sketch playing around with new markers any critiques..?
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/5880/img0146j.jpg

[Tempo718]

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[orca250]

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Crits Please.

[Hick94]

orca for the first sketch try not to force the connections it looks wrong....btw your o looks a v aswell

[orca250]

orca for the first sketch try not to force the connections it looks wrong....btw your o looks a v aswell
Do you mean not to overlap so much? And would my o be less v like if I got rid of the overlapping ends of bars at the top?

[Coleo]

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[MN Nice]

I'd say stop drawing on trains and start making full letters.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p104/skier46/IMG00542-20111227-0109.jpg?t=1324971643

[gemer]

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[BennyBoii]

@MN Nice-I like the top one,has a nice flow. But the bottom, not feeling the loops and the colours are not working for me

[gemer]

@neso sweet black book
@naked nice page keep em comin :) not diggen the colors either tho but there gettin better

[aids.too]

@gemer im not feel in the arrows but your hand styles fresh
@MN Nice I'm feel in it just not the blues
@neso i agree quit coloring trains no offence i did like the orange one though

[MN Nice]

@neso sweet black book
@naked nice page keep em comin :) not diggen the colors either tho but there gettin better

Was that meant for me? Because that was just an exchange with Naked, not what I write.

[gemer]

ha yea for you^ my bad

[C-SONE]

http://i43.tinypic.com/2yk02mt.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/35m0h12.jpg

crits please, need a fair bit of improvement still

[BennyBoii]

crits?
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[C-SONE]

Crits, feel your letters more. Give them emotion, give them limbs. Think of them as people. Come up with a backstory, a family and medical history. n occupation. Did your letters grow up in a nice sensible suburb? Do they work in a car wash? Do they live on the streets? Think bout your letters mood and responsibilities within the set. Are they proppng up, pulling over or tangling with other letters. With their limbs make that important. Don't think of the outside, think of the underneath. The physical structure of the thing.

For instance, if you were to draw a person would you just draw the outside and hope it turns out all right? of course not. Start with the bone structure, work out how the limbs are supposed to relate and move with each other. Flow correctly instead of unnaturally. The same applies to letters. You can't have their bones and internal organs all mooshed up funny, they will just end up looking awkward and end up with health complications. Like a Pug dog, or a Person with bone-itis.

[Phat 2]

Crits, feel your letters more. Give them emotion, give them limbs. Think of them as people. Come up with a backstory, a family and medical history. n occupation. Did your letters grow up in a nice sensible suburb? Do they work in a car wash? Do they live on the streets? Think bout your letters mood and responsibilities within the set. Are they proppng up, pulling over or tangling with other letters. With their limbs make that important. Don't think of the outside, think of the underneath. The physical structure of the thing..

o...kay ?

[BennyBoii]

haha lol ^^
i think i could of made the "b" a little bigger, and fix the last leg of the "m" near the top

[SneeZ]

He's juss tryin to say letter structure is important, lol.
c-sone i cant really give you any constructive crit on those, but i can drop ma dollar.
perspective is kind of wierd on first one, i know what u meant to do, but it didnt came out well, s si one level above the other two. I had troubles on finding letters in second one i can see the s and o, still didnt find n and e. And i think you aint planing to bomb that. I suggest you post it in the intermediate thread, there you'll get better crits.

@gemer shorten those arrow/extensions, try giving letters the same lean. Dont make m that "spacey" next time, you kill flow with that. Try to reduce this space with letter bars, also on down/right part of g. Overall nice work, its got potential.

[Tempo718]

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yo that is raw do that.

[knowtheledge]

ill stuff gem your letters are ruude n sone your styles on point with that pen game. you guys wont get much qualitative input from most of the kats in this thread imo move it to intermediate

quick ting
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7143/6579032379_645b072bf3_z.jpg

[PETER]

absolutly horrible outline. playing with stuff for my end of a Slotr exchange.
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[Beko]

i really like blue an yellow together! crits please!
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[PETER]

Beko: Koto, Kote? T isn't bad. That K needs some work. And whatever is on the end needs medical attention. You're improving over all, but keep working on your straights and getting them to flow.

[Hick94]

ya beko that k needs some work..the charecter isnt bad, in my opinion lose the splashes coming off the charecter

[Wonky]

looks to me like theres a lot of rockin been going on....i had a few days off drawing... did these today


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[Beko]

K's are super hard for me!

[Tempo718]

wonky I got 2 lady down after that one. good show

[PETER]

I suggest making your K with 3 straight bars at first. Bending them (especially the top bar) can be troublesome. I am going to use Wonky's pieces as an example here. His style is pretty straight up and simple, but they have some funk. Once you get your basic letter forms down you can start bending them etc. Here is a straight 3 bar K for example.
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[Wonky]

Thanks I think Tempo. Any crits / comments?

[PETER]

Wonky: that blue piece is solid. Work on your S's though. The blue one isn't too bad, but the pink one is a bit rough. The E on the pink one needs some work. I like your blue E far better. If it where me I'd work on making it more circular on the far right side.... Just me.

[Wonky]

Straight up. Thanks Peter.

[KingKozmik]

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[PETER]

Try to make your letters not look like Jell-o jigglers.

[Wonky]

King. Back to bars.

[Beko]

did this last night. kust something i didnt in like 5 minutes! and crits??
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[Hick94]

king ever hear less is more? same applies to graff
simple i did today
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/5907/img0153la.jpg

[Wonky]

Less is infinitely more, until you need to know more, and you will know when that is. It isn't now.

[Tempo718]

Thanks I think Tempo. Any crits / comments?
to get critical,rather see that same thing in paint on canvas.

[Wonky]

did this tonight.... not happy with fill..

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[Tempo718]

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Wonky - Inside..?

[Tempo718]

Crits, feel your letters more. Give them emotion, give them limbs. Think of them as people. Come up with a backstory, a family and medical history. n occupation. Did your letters grow up in a nice sensible suburb? Do they work in a car wash? Do they live on the streets? Think bout your letters mood and responsibilities within the set. Are they proppng up, pulling over or tangling with other letters. With their limbs make that important. Don't think of the outside, think of the underneath. The physical structure of the thing.

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[VeX'D]

Wonkey, I'm those are legit. Not really feeling the colors on the last one though

[BennyBoii]

@wonkey- ur letters have good structure, but ur hiding them to much, the S and the E are way to far under the others, try spacing them out a bit more

[Skadeem]

king ever hear less is more? same applies to graff
simple i did today
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/5907/img0153la.jpg

Holy shit Hick finally changed it up I'm so happy....

literally the first two ever done with more than three colors on paper.....yay christmas
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[-Sinn-]

Speak show me a straight letter no extensions no bullshit id honestly be more impressed
Inside - Your colours are clean but letters are shit (no offense) work on the individual flow of the letter i mean the bottom of that S is scaring me man
Tempo - Make bars the same width THROUGHOUT THE PIECE! SYMETRY (idc how its spelled) IS KEY!
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/zinkery90/CopyofPicture746.jpg
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/zinkery90/CopyofPicture743.jpg
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/zinkery90/CopyofPicture759.jpg

[Wonky]

I definately need to space my letters out. But shit letters? Wow. Cheers!

[knowtheledge]

page is looking decent here's another quick ting

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7145/6588285045_60bca5bb6d_z.jpg

[Wonky]

Nice structure Know. Finish it!

[Skadeem]

I'd work on the e but that may fuck with the spacing too much

[sadgeh]

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Crits?

[emace1]

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7023/6573689049_b42833e71e.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/spacehoes/6573689049/)
IMG_0114 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/spacehoes/6573689049/) by sirduke! (http://www.flickr.com/people/spacehoes/), on Flickr

[dankbudz]

shoulda left out those gay extensions

[Mori]

Should have left the page unblemished with such a fine female and and leave out your raunchy letters.

[dmot_snts]

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[BennyBoii]

@sadgeh-drop the extensions and work on full letters

[dankbudz]

unfinished

[Wonky]

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[Mori]

Tops the only one worth the paper its drawn on wonky. Pretty nice effort at simplifying. This IMO is a hundred times more visually speaking then that crap you've been dead set to add to your other letters. Scoot the s and the I in the middle just a click or two away from each other because they are a little to tight. Other then that I can digg you're color scheme and no 3d or drops on your letters

[Wonky]

Cheers and thanks for the input. I find it mega hard not to add arrows and shit. I love old school rough, cartoony Graf. I appreciate all crits, I'm trying to do at least one or two Bbook pieces a day until I get it. Not tryin to do any wild style bullshit at all.

[Coleo]

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Any better on this one???

[gemer]

^^pretty cool man your gettin better but idk about them lines comin off the black outline like its fallin ya know? not diggen that but keep em comin

[Wonky]

It s nice that Coleo - it's a bit raw but there is that kind of authentic stench about it. Keep it up!

[MN Nice]

@Coleo - Give your letters a different color outline than the 3d, it'll make that isht pop.

And you spelled Guess wrong. :p

[SmetOner]

So many people posting their shit, saying they're toys, if you guys are toys im UBER HAXOR SUPER MEGA TOY.

[Colors]

crits on this little 2 letter?
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[MN Nice]

Quickie done.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p104/skier46/IMG00572-20111229-1633.jpg?t=1325198933

[illegal_drugs]

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any crits on the blue one?

[gemer]

@ mn nice not diggen the m' but the rest is pretty good keep it up

[SynOne]

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[MN Nice]

I like how you opened up your letters more.

[Coleo]

thankyou every one who commented on my work...and ill work on it and post anotha!:D

[Coleo]

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ok did this one today...crits please

[eriekid]

473774737847379473804738147382473834738447386 all mine alot ot of it is old the newest one is like 3 months old but tell me what you think!

[Colors]

been having a writers block lately and cant sketch at all but heres whats recent
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[sadgeh]

Colors - the blue one diggin it.
Eriekid - first one biting from above and the others just keep it straight.

[eriekid]

ight i had no clue i hate when people call bites cause all graffitis gonna look similar but thanks

[sadgeh]

well you can hate but its what it is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyWHHunvcWE&feature=plcp&context=C35c99d9UDOEgsToPDskJPoXF99B6u5ayEYfQ0MlSe
link-dump but see here why its biting.

[sadgeh]

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Crits?