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Toy Story
09-26-2006, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by BoRe&#045;719&#045;+Sep 26 2006, 05:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (BoRe-719- @ Sep 26 2006, 05:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Toy Story@Sep 26 2006, 05:35 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Hilo@Sep 26 2006, 04:41 PM
new name .... thore did it in class crits

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/8326/picture70lu2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Nice tag piece

I like your new tag piece style.

You got a new tag name, I like yes.

I like this tag more then anything.
you cant speak english, i dont like you, not because you cant speak english, but because of you shitty name [/b][/quote]
I laugh at you yes and think u a toy yea?

Slushi
09-26-2006, 06:11 PM
Lollerskates.

novella
09-26-2006, 06:13 PM
haha, wow, arguing with people who dont speak english well is funnier than i thought it was


a sketch i started today, didnt get to finish though. first time im attempting something a little more advanced. The S isnt finished, and i might still add to the E. then theres the L and K to worry about.

crits though?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/crowned_royalty/tessketch.jpg

Slushi
09-26-2006, 06:16 PM
lose all the arrows and random hookups and shit.

Bartic
09-26-2006, 06:20 PM
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/6356/suki14qb6.jpg
crits... i got overshadowed by the internet beef....

novella
09-26-2006, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by Slushi@Sep 26 2006, 06:16 PM
lose all the arrows and random hookups and shit.
thats not helping, im trying to advance, ive got simple letters down well

how are the hookups no good then?

bouncingsoul
09-26-2006, 06:25 PM
You&#39;re advancing too much... Post some of your simples. I&#39;d like to see

novella
09-26-2006, 06:31 PM
alright, give me a min to get some flicks and resize / post them

BRAINE
09-26-2006, 06:36 PM
Originally posted by Toy Story+Sep 26 2006, 05:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Toy Story @ Sep 26 2006, 05:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by BoRe&#045;719&#045;@Sep 26 2006, 05:37 PM

Originally posted by Toy Story@Sep 26 2006, 05:35 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Hilo@Sep 26 2006, 04:41 PM
new name .... thore did it in class crits


Nice tag piece

I like your new tag piece style.

You got a new tag name, I like yes.

I like this tag more then anything.
you cant speak english, i dont like you, not because you cant speak english, but because of you shitty name
I laugh at you yes and think u a toy yea? [/b][/quote]
why would you even compliment that?
im editing out the picture cas it doesnt need to be bumped

mad bites in that sketch, not to mention, theyre not even good bites.


aces quit bumping your own shit
go sketch
stop begging people to teach you something that has been self taught for so long before 12oz and many other forums came to ruin it

you dont need advice from a bunch of other toys.
use your eyes, look at things, pick colors you like, make your own style, a bunch of fags on the internet who dont even write arent going to be able to teach you things

and thats for everyone who constantly asks for ctizreratsrdsers not just aces
but seriously. if nobody gives you advice, go fucking sketch. maybe its because nobody has anything good to say and doesnt want to be a dick and crush your hopes and dreams of being a cool graffiti tagster who gets mad girls and hangs out with other wriuters and is famous and in movies and books
you dont need to bump the same shit over and over and over.


be aggressive, be assertive. DO YOU
dont do him, or what he wants, or this other anonymous jerk does.

do you.

novella
09-26-2006, 06:43 PM
alright, heres some samples of my stuff:

first page of my black book, right when i first started into graff
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/crowned_royalty/anon7.jpg
another anon peice
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/crowned_royalty/anon.jpg
changed name to tesla, trying out some different styles
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/crowned_royalty/tesla.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/crowned_royalty/teslaredfade.jpg
stickers, some old, some newer
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/crowned_royalty/stickers.jpg
random sketch
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/crowned_royalty/shep.jpg
sketch i did yesterday
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/crowned_royalty/tesla2.jpg

jerm_mtl
09-26-2006, 06:43 PM
Originally posted by aces+Sep 26 2006, 05:10 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (aces @ Sep 26 2006, 05:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by aces@Sep 26 2006, 04:55 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-aces@Sep 26 2006, 02:27 PM
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/4062/picture024zn4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Crits on mine...Yeah I know its on a dollar...
Any crits or opinions?
Still nothin? [/b][/quote]
what a waste of a dollar bill

aces
09-26-2006, 06:46 PM
Why is it a waste? I already spent it.

SeeOne
09-26-2006, 06:47 PM
Some of my stuff...

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/1810/see1gy4.th.png (http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=see1gy4.png)

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/6355/see2rw6.th.png (http://img58.imageshack.us/my.php?image=see2rw6.png)

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/5728/see3hg6.th.png (http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=see3hg6.png)

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8892/see4ym5.th.png (http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=see4ym5.png)

From Pinky & The Brain

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/9369/see5sc1.th.png (http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=see5sc1.png)

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/3444/see6yh6.th.png (http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=see6yh6.png)

Some OLD throwies.

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/8976/see7tk4.th.png (http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=see7tk4.png)

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/7685/see8yk3.th.png (http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=see8yk3.png)

New throwies.

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/2116/see9sp1.th.png (http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=see9sp1.png)

bouncingsoul
09-26-2006, 06:54 PM
Yay, someone starting simple&#33; In the last flick, I like the top left pencil throw... Work on it and it&#39;d be sick. Keep it up

SeeOne
09-26-2006, 07:03 PM
Originally posted by bouncingsoul@Sep 26 2006, 06:54 PM
Yay, someone starting simple&#33; In the last flick, I like the top left pencil throw... Work on it and it&#39;d be sick. Keep it up
Thanks Man..


Any more crits?

aces
09-26-2006, 07:05 PM
With your pieces it seems like your E&#39;s are the same as the one next to it so I&#39;d suggest not having two E&#39;s next to eachother.

bouncingsoul
09-26-2006, 07:05 PM
I&#39;ll get on it after homework... I hate school... Just hope you don&#39;t go bitin Seen

novella
09-26-2006, 07:06 PM
any more thoughts on my stuff? i posted a bunch of my sketches

Hilo
09-26-2006, 07:12 PM
lovin that shit see... OTK ahah i love you man

SeeOne
09-26-2006, 07:15 PM
Originally posted by bouncingsoul@Sep 26 2006, 07:05 PM
I&#39;ll get on it after homework... I hate school... Just hope you don&#39;t go bitin Seen
People are saying im biting seen becasue of my name :rolleyes:


Anyways, this is a MASS production from my albanian friend ahahahaha

He is new to graffiti as you can see.

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3365/picture71uj3.th.jpg (http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture71uj3.jpg)

ahahahahhaa :lol: :D

Hilo
09-26-2006, 07:16 PM
ahahahh dood is that ur cousin in albainia see?. he started graff get him a better camera.. aghhahaahhaagagaahahahahahaha fucking toy

PeYGoNeR
09-26-2006, 07:20 PM
yoo novella there all looking pretty good im liking the 4th one the most and see your shits looking pretty desint too keep practicing heres a fast peices i did a while ago just did the fill like 5 mins ago its not the greatest peice but its somthing to look at and give crits thanks
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/5300/damean060bx2.jpg

prank
09-26-2006, 07:27 PM
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2066/image74kf4.jpg

feble attempt of style with no style

Sumoe
09-26-2006, 07:30 PM
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9431/dsc0041zp6.jpg
experimanting with colors...crtis? :blink:

TGB
09-26-2006, 07:33 PM
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/4332/seezblueyv2.th.png (http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=seezblueyv2.png)

Comments?

kicklip9634
09-26-2006, 07:34 PM
http://i9.tinypic.com/2rxd0cn.jpg

crits please

Bartic
09-26-2006, 07:53 PM
Krupt: loose the fill loose the color, k and u look decent. RP and T are majorly hurting, "this is war" handy.... work on printing first, then maybe cursive.... are you literate? write much? ok my bad being an asshole. Bubble on the r has to do. copy your keyboard my friend

TGB: looks good nice fill, maybe make the middle part of the e slightly bigger not too much.

sumoe: this hasn&#39;t been your best peice i&#39;ve seen, the s is lacking which normally looks good in ur other peices. your e is looking good stick with it

if u guys would crit the post before you i wouldn&#39;t have to type this much..

myl
09-26-2006, 07:57 PM
Originally posted by prank@Sep 26 2006, 07:27 PM
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2066/image74kf4.jpg

feble attempt of style with no style
yank man youve been told a couple of times

go back to nice and straight letters, no bendy shit yet cause you dont understand the flow

prank
09-26-2006, 08:03 PM
yeah i know u guys are right but making too simple shit makes me feel retarded and i feel retarded but ill listen althoufh ill keep on trying shit at the same time to keep it fun

luckyly ive my throw down^_^

Hilo
09-26-2006, 08:04 PM
PUTONGLAMO. PILIPINO PRIDE.

ARMAwonR
09-26-2006, 08:24 PM
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/pea516bb1dc895ddbc09376a985f8da50/ecc989a5.jpg

Crits?

SeeOne
09-26-2006, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by SeeOne@Sep 26 2006, 06:47 PM
Some of my stuff...

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/1810/see1gy4.th.png (http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=see1gy4.png)

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/6355/see2rw6.th.png (http://img58.imageshack.us/my.php?image=see2rw6.png)

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/5728/see3hg6.th.png (http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=see3hg6.png)

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8892/see4ym5.th.png (http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=see4ym5.png)

From Pinky & The Brain

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/9369/see5sc1.th.png (http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=see5sc1.png)

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/3444/see6yh6.th.png (http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=see6yh6.png)

Some OLD throwies.

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/8976/see7tk4.th.png (http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=see7tk4.png)

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/7685/see8yk3.th.png (http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=see8yk3.png)

New throwies.

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/2116/see9sp1.th.png (http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=see9sp1.png)
Bump.

beke
09-26-2006, 08:53 PM
im really feelin the throwies and the charac. love pinky and the brain&#33; stick with it man you&#39;ve got the basics down

jmammo
09-26-2006, 08:55 PM
See on the third and fourth one down I aint really feling that bump in the E
:unsure:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/nate_jack/117_1708.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/nate_jack/117_1706.jpg

bump

Edit: cuz i sounded like an asshole

ARMAwonR
09-26-2006, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by ARMAwonR@Sep 26 2006, 08:24 PM
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/pea516bb1dc895ddbc09376a985f8da50/ecc989a5.jpg

Crits?
Bumpski&#33;

riddleboxxmcl
09-26-2006, 09:04 PM
somethin i just started to work on, i have no idea for a fill/ colors
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j239/riddleboxxmcl/Picture006.jpg
sorry for the size
Crits plz?

ghozt
09-26-2006, 09:04 PM
armawonr-dude i like ur style :ph34r:

eTAW!
09-26-2006, 09:06 PM
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b386/gkurt/DSCF0874.jpg

I tried a new style.. I think the letters were kidnapped, if you&#39;ve seen them please PM me their wereabouts :D Haha it says NAME, stare at it and its easy to see. -1 for crayolas&#33; COMMENTS PLEASE

ghozt
09-26-2006, 09:08 PM
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/9916/scan0026vd6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


crits? i no it sucks i no i no

riddleboxxmcl
09-26-2006, 09:11 PM
ok no one is critiking (how eva thats spelled) so
i will armo im not really feelin it but its not bad, ghozt i like that first one fith the green shade its nice and simple, etaw ur letter strukture sucks and please dont write name there already is 2 i think onthis site

anythin about mine?

ghozt
09-26-2006, 09:14 PM
its good but theres just something im not really feeling in there idk wat it is.... but other than tht its good

jmammo
09-26-2006, 09:17 PM
Dino i really like you style nice and clean no random bumps and shit thats what I like

eTAW!
09-26-2006, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by riddleboxxmcl@Sep 26 2006, 09:11 PM
ok no one is critiking (how eva thats spelled) so
i will armo im not really feelin it but its not bad, ghozt i like that first one fith the green shade its nice and simple, etaw ur letter strukture sucks and please dont write name there already is 2 i think onthis site

anythin about mine?
First do you know what critizing is? It&#39;s not stating whether you like it or not. Its giving an opinion on what can be done to fix it (In your point of view). Not "armo im not really feelin it but its not bad" That doesn&#39;t help him out one bit.

uh..anyway theres probably more than 2 of something else on here aswell. I dont post flicks of my shit, this is a first, so i couldnt care less. About the letter structure....did you even read my post? Thanks anyway&#33;

ARMAwonR
09-26-2006, 09:26 PM
thanks ghozt

and its armA, friend

that wack lowercase &#39;a&#39; does look like an &#39;o&#39; tho, sorry

nerdx
09-26-2006, 09:30 PM
yo dino kill that sig man its huge.

guys had me thinkin bezerker
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/839/img2549ng6.jpg
miser in dope bzerker style.

riddleboxxmcl
09-26-2006, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by ghozt@Sep 26 2006, 10:14 PM
its good but theres just something im not really feeling in there idk wat it is.... but other than tht its good
i think its because the first 2 letters are leaning to the right then the other 3 are leaning to the left

and to etaw i know what critiking is i just really didnt have any thing to say
for ghozt i said it was good so i dont really need to say what i would change because he shudent change any thiing really and for u i did dont bitch at me because i said your drawing sucks im not trying to be mean or nuthing just and work on ur shit make it simpler

TricksForKids
09-26-2006, 09:46 PM
Alright, attention to SKY 5, ANZIO, MF FEED, and ASE

SKY has already pmed me back with a YES, but in case you didnt se the first time..

id really like to see us do a collab, i just want your feedback on whether we should all do our names in the same colour scheme..or write a sentence of some sort? so PM me or write your thoughts in here

Peace

eTAW!
09-26-2006, 09:47 PM
dude i said the letters got lost, clearly i noticed the letter structure sucked&#33;&#33; Anyways moving on..

riddleboxxmcl
09-26-2006, 09:48 PM
o, inever really under stood that. but ya. any ways

Sumoe
09-26-2006, 10:00 PM
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9431/dsc0041zp6.jpg any more crits?
:ph34r:

S8nt
09-26-2006, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by S8nt@Sep 26 2006, 10:40 AM


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b291/scarecrow2008/saint-1.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b291/scarecrow2008/scaryface.jpg
^from a book not a trace tho
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b291/scarecrow2008/sain4.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b291/scarecrow2008/sain3.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b291/scarecrow2008/sain.jpg
^ my twist on a simliar piece
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b291/scarecrow2008/sain2.jpg
[IMG]http://i21

Biggity Bump ^^^^^

YarHarHar
09-26-2006, 10:02 PM
sumoe you need to work on keeping your letters thickness more even..and the end of your leeters need some work especial the u m and o

moree quick simples
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y8/four420twenty/IMG_1929.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y8/four420twenty/IMG_1928.jpg

Sumoe
09-26-2006, 10:03 PM
S8nt, work on letter structure, i gotta work on mine too. :blink: Also when doing 3D use a vanishing point...

S8nt
09-26-2006, 10:07 PM
^^vanishing point hmmm explain urself.....i gatta learn all this shit on my own noone else near me graffs n yea i know my 3d sucks a fuck help would be amazing

Sumoe
09-26-2006, 10:09 PM
a vanishing point is where all the 3D lines point to...

novella
09-26-2006, 10:46 PM
Originally posted by nerdx@Sep 26 2006, 09:30 PM
yo dino kill that sig man its huge.

guys had me thinkin bezerker
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/839/img2549ng6.jpg
miser in dope bzerker style.
bump because this is soo sick, and no one had anything to say about it

this style is nuts, i love it. maybe ill try something like this

AoAssis
09-26-2006, 11:00 PM
Get a hold of your nuts, it aint that great.

No offense nerdx.

No one checks the damn sticker thread.

im trading my slaps and alot of my old ones that im gettin rid off for some painted backgrounds. if any one wants to trade me some blakn painted backgrounds for my slaps PM me.

beke
09-26-2006, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by novella+Sep 26 2006, 10:46 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (novella @ Sep 26 2006, 10:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-nerdx@Sep 26 2006, 09:30 PM
yo dino kill that sig man its huge.

guys had me thinkin bezerker
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/839/img2549ng6.jpg
miser in dope bzerker style.
bump because this is soo sick, and no one had anything to say about it

this style is nuts, i love it. maybe ill try something like this [/b][/quote]
no1 has anything to say cuz you may as well have taken that in the dark, shed some light on it and then we&#39;ll shed some light on your style :)

eTAW!
09-26-2006, 11:12 PM
s8nt remember to proportion everything a bit better

NOMX
09-26-2006, 11:46 PM
yea bump that fucken picture that is only 1 comment above yours, becuase its not like we wouldnt know wtf ur talking about

Venom.
09-27-2006, 12:08 AM
Originally posted by Sumoe@Sep 26 2006, 10:00 PM
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9431/dsc0041zp6.jpg any more crits?
:ph34r:
Those box outlines sure do look like Tricks&#39;s... Ahem.

dont tag trees
09-27-2006, 12:22 AM
Originally posted by beke+Sep 26 2006, 11:05 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (beke @ Sep 26 2006, 11:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by novella@Sep 26 2006, 10:46 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-nerdx@Sep 26 2006, 09:30 PM
yo dino kill that sig man its huge.

guys had me thinkin bezerker
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/839/img2549ng6.jpg
miser in dope bzerker style.
bump because this is soo sick, and no one had anything to say about it

this style is nuts, i love it. maybe ill try something like this
no1 has anything to say cuz you may as well have taken that in the dark, shed some light on it and then we&#39;ll shed some light on your style :) [/b][/quote]
maybe no one cares what you think
this forum sucks, you kids shouldnt be here. the only reason your still toy is because your on this forum. get a life. if you want to be good at anything you have to pracise, thats it. you dont need good pointers or false advise or anyother bullshit because you will all develope in the same borring manner. you all suck only because you spend more time talking than doodling. if you want to talk to someone talk in person, not over some gay ass internet site where noone has even seen a paint can, or at least i hope not. dont get me wronge the other forums are fine, but thats only because the people contributing to them have some experience and something to offer the community of writers on this website. you should all be doing your homework and working your community hours. and PLEASE dont ask me why im even on this forum or whatever your little combacks will be, please. i dont need this crap.

MrNice
09-27-2006, 01:30 AM
Originally posted by MrNice+Sep 26 2006, 05:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MrNice @ Sep 26 2006, 05:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-MrNice@Sep 26 2006, 04:54 PM
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b238/teespoon2k/opekblurr.jpg
fucking pens ran out.
bump [/b][/quote]
no crits yet?

NOMX
09-27-2006, 01:35 AM
opek?

MrNice
09-27-2006, 01:43 AM
grats

SeKz
09-27-2006, 04:27 AM
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3736/image005wd4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Latest sketch ;)

doomsayer
09-27-2006, 05:04 AM
wow, letters are nice, fill is awesome, 3d is rockin, very nice

d_g
09-27-2006, 05:12 AM
Nice, the fill is a bit &#39;busy&#39; for me personally, but I like it.

Just learn how to take photos :P

SeKz
09-27-2006, 05:32 AM
Id rather have a sick blackbook than sick camera skills :P Its just my camrea phone.

NiL
09-27-2006, 05:34 AM
Fill looks mad as lol.

aces
09-27-2006, 05:36 AM
Lovin that piece. Fill is sick and everything else about it is awesome too.

levans
09-27-2006, 05:37 AM
yeh fill is pretty sweet what kind of markers did u use

naomh
09-27-2006, 05:47 AM
I have been writing for about a week or so now, and i wanted to post my first attempt at a 3d-ish sketch.
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j307/nilaiha/3d-wrap.jpg
I know that the angle isn&#39;t quite consistant from left to right(the a leans more than the k). What do you think? I was gonna add more of a background, but wanted to see what you all thought first. I know I am a toy and just getting started, but any comments will help a lot.

DeathRow
09-27-2006, 06:22 AM
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/4794/ehhpu8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

URL=http://imageshack.us]http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/379/ehhhii4.jpg[/URL]

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/4843/ehhhhhju7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/6885/0001392yb5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



Yeah did these... not that great but yeah.. crits welcomed..

SUP SEKZ, nice shitt there fella..

peace

SeKz
09-27-2006, 07:38 AM
Originally posted by levans@Sep 27 2006, 05:37 AM
yeh fill is pretty sweet what kind of markers did u use
;) posca paint markers

100th Post :lol:

YarHarHar
09-27-2006, 09:48 AM
Originally posted by YarHarHar@Sep 26 2006, 10:02 PM
sumoe you need to work on keeping your letters thickness more even..and the end of your leeters need some work especial the u m and o

moree quick simples
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y8/four420twenty/IMG_1929.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y8/four420twenty/IMG_1928.jpg
...

aces
09-27-2006, 10:05 AM
Is it JAR now? If so I&#39;d say lower the left part of the J just to make it a little more J like. It&#39;s sweet. Would be a nice quick bomb. The shadow looks a little too think on the R in the middle. Also hy didn&#39;t you move it more to the left so it doesn&#39;t go onto the next page and you could still get something on the other page.

MrNice
09-27-2006, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by naomh@Sep 27 2006, 05:47 AM
I have been writing for about a week or so now, and i wanted to post my first attempt at a 3d-ish sketch.
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j307/nilaiha/3d-wrap.jpg
I know that the angle isn&#39;t quite consistant from left to right(the a leans more than the k). What do you think? I was gonna add more of a background, but wanted to see what you all thought first. I know I am a toy and just getting started, but any comments will help a lot.
thats fucking dope, love it.

Apoc
09-27-2006, 10:54 AM
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b365/Apocaloid/P1010016.jpg

I suck at upper case A&#39;s

SheOne
09-27-2006, 11:45 AM
http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/9051/kllxe6zy9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

new bomb any constructive Critz? :D

emokid
09-27-2006, 11:46 AM
apoc that is prrropa nice except the a is weird

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/6366/dscn5819bm8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

never really tried to make the 3D look nice before, its horrible because i cant blend felt tips.. i dont like my style:(

SheOne
09-27-2006, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by emokid@Sep 27 2006, 11:46 AM

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/6366/dscn5819bm8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


i like it emokid i like the colors. props.

trashhh
09-27-2006, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by Apoc@Sep 27 2006, 10:54 AM
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b365/Apocaloid/P1010016.jpg

I suck at upper case A&#39;s
Aone was a old school Bronx legend. Rip Aone... so change

_Pure
09-27-2006, 12:55 PM
Originally posted by emokid@Sep 27 2006, 11:46 AM
apoc that is prrropa nice except the a is weird

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/6366/dscn5819bm8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

never really tried to make the 3D look nice before, its horrible because i cant blend felt tips.. i dont like my style:(
It&#39;s nice but you shouldn&#39;t end your letters in an arrow ;)

OliveOil
09-27-2006, 01:00 PM
Originally posted by SheOne@Sep 27 2006, 11:45 AM
http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/9051/kllxe6zy9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

new bomb any constructive Critz? :D
your letters arent bad. its the positioning thats fucked. keep em all the same size and dont make it smaller and overlapping one part like that..just maintain regular throwup style with those letters and it should be good.

jonowev
09-27-2006, 01:37 PM
my first ever sketch&#33; im such a retarded toy...

comments please? and yes, i am developing a more rounded style, not just block letters - more pics soon :D http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n88/jonowev/Scan1.jpg

Apoc
09-27-2006, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by trashhh+Sep 27 2006, 12:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (trashhh @ Sep 27 2006, 12:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Apoc@Sep 27 2006, 10:54 AM
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b365/Apocaloid/P1010016.jpg

I suck at upper case A&#39;s
Aone was a old school Bronx legend. Rip Aone... so change [/b][/quote]
4 reasons why I don&#39;t care about your opinion -

1. I don&#39;t live in the bronx, or paris.

2. I&#39;ve been writing aoner for over a year now, i&#39;ve gotten ups with decent heads, no one cares.

3. Hes dead... people will know i&#39;m not him

4. I don&#39;t know you

nerdx
09-27-2006, 02:24 PM
your a bit smug

Apoc
09-27-2006, 02:28 PM
I dont appreciate people tellin me to change my name. I&#39;ll change it when I feel like it. And he didn&#39;t say it in a very nice way. And by the way you joined like, a month before me and you have 1100 posts vs 313? Man get off the internet

Toy Story
09-27-2006, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by jmammo@Sep 26 2006, 08:55 PM
See on the third and fourth one down I aint really feling that bump in the E
:unsure:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/nate_jack/117_1708.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/nate_jack/117_1706.jpg

bump

Edit: cuz i sounded like an asshole
I dont think your opnion matters at all considering your sketches are horrible and have no flow.

nerdx
09-27-2006, 02:33 PM
yeah cause im too busy correcting dumb ass kids like you.
so go fuck yourself and quit worring about how superior you are.

i was actually thinking about giving you critisism but fuck it.
your ganna bash my shit but just a few back you said, I quote

"man I need to get my posting quota up to par yo. I&#39;ve been writing for a year and I have less than 300..."


once you fucking get a can in your hand then come talk to me.
but untill then shut the fuck up and keep your shit to yourself.

wrek10
09-27-2006, 02:36 PM
hahaha. PROPS to this new A1 suace. word cake..
where u from?

wrek10
09-27-2006, 02:39 PM
WOOOO. PROPS to nerdx now&#33;&#33;.
u know what u think u guys??
i think this is to VIOLENT. and them r FIGHTIN WORDS....
soo i think its time to BATTLE&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;
:P
A1 vs nerd&#33;

trashhh
09-27-2006, 02:41 PM
sorry i didnt say it in a &#39;nice&#39; way, but people kinda will care, its like someone writing seen... And someone also writes Oner, endorses monster markers but i doubt it matters that much.
U need to fix ur A and R otherwise its an alright sketch.

A-chue!
09-27-2006, 03:05 PM
new style
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g220/ginoforce/PACEbrick.jpg

aces
09-27-2006, 03:06 PM
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/9530/picture025jk5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Goin a little more tech with it. Crits? Should I color it?

nerdx
09-27-2006, 03:09 PM
nice dudes. both of thoes look on. keep it up.

emokid
09-27-2006, 03:11 PM
a chue&#33; the letters are kind of alright but the colour/ fill is fuckfuck good
aces, i think you should colour it to see what it looks like cos all the letters are good on that.

SKA11289
09-27-2006, 03:11 PM
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/1999/1000096uq1.th.jpg (http://img68.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1000096uq1.jpg)

http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/8702/1000094go0.th.jpg (http://img70.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1000094go0.jpg)

bump for crits




Aces the "spazm" is tight, if i were you i color the letters black wit a red 3d, just my opion but still sick i like ur style

Maker A Laker
09-27-2006, 03:12 PM
ya nice work

aces and achue

Apoc
09-27-2006, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by nerdx@Sep 27 2006, 02:33 PM
yeah cause im too busy correcting dumb ass kids like you.
so go fuck yourself and quit worring about how superior you are.

i was actually thinking about giving you critisism but fuck it.
your ganna bash my shit but just a few back you said, I quote

"man I need to get my posting quota up to par yo. I&#39;ve been writing for a year and I have less than 300..."


once you fucking get a can in your hand then come talk to me.
but untill then shut the fuck up and keep your shit to yourself.
you actually took the time to go back and tell me what I said?

what are you correcting?

Who said I was superior?

the kid stepped to me, you butted in, kids get cracked for that

"your smug"

how am I smug? Because I don&#39;t like kids telling me what name to have.

You keep your shit to yourself, You&#39;re the one who butted into a conversation that didn&#39;t concern you.

some guy from NCI...
09-27-2006, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by Apoc+Sep 27 2006, 03:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Apoc @ Sep 27 2006, 03:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-nerdx@Sep 27 2006, 02:33 PM
yeah cause im too busy correcting dumb ass kids like you.
so go fuck yourself and quit worring about how superior you are.

i was actually thinking about giving you critisism but fuck it.
your ganna bash my shit but just a few back you said, I quote

"man I need to get my posting quota up to par yo. I&#39;ve been writing for a year and I have less than 300..."


once you fucking get a can in your hand then come talk to me.
but untill then shut the fuck up and keep your shit to yourself.
you actually took the time to go back and tell me what I said?

what are you correcting?

Who said I was superior?

the kid stepped to me, you butted in, kids get cracked for that

"your smug"

how am I smug? Because I don&#39;t like kids telling me what name to have.

You keep your shit to yourself, You&#39;re the one who butted into a conversation that didn&#39;t concern you. [/b][/quote]
Shutup Apoc. Dont take it any further.

jmammo
09-27-2006, 03:27 PM
Originally posted by Toy Story@Sep 27 2006, 02:31 PM

I dont think your opnion matters at all considering your sketches are horrible and have no flow.
I said that they didnt matter cuz I am a fucking toy and I know it but dont give me shit just tell me what to change. If you dont like me giving crits dont pay any attention to them then christ

Apoc
09-27-2006, 03:30 PM
sorry for starting stupid beef but I&#39;m having a shitty day

Toy Story
09-27-2006, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by jmammo+Sep 27 2006, 03:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (jmammo @ Sep 27 2006, 03:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Toy Story@Sep 27 2006, 02:31 PM

I dont think your opnion matters at all considering your sketches are horrible and have no flow.
I said that they didnt matter cuz I am a fucking toy and I know it but dont give me shit just tell me what to change. If you dont like me giving crits dont pay any attention to them then christ [/b][/quote]
Lol.

jmammo
09-27-2006, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by Toy Story+Sep 27 2006, 03:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Toy Story @ Sep 27 2006, 03:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by jmammo@Sep 27 2006, 03:27 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Toy Story@Sep 27 2006, 02:31 PM

I dont think your opnion matters at all considering your sketches are horrible and have no flow.
I said that they didnt matter cuz I am a fucking toy and I know it but dont give me shit just tell me what to change. If you dont like me giving crits dont pay any attention to them then christ
Lol. [/b][/quote]
post some of your shit up then

duki
09-27-2006, 03:34 PM
Here are some erm things lol i did when i was about 13 in school and i havent really done any thing else since, please dont be 2 hard on me coz i was 13 n i am a girl lol and im from the uk

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/3557/alienhp3.th.jpg (http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=alienhp3.jpg)

http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/2955/dukixm0.th.jpg (http://img456.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dukixm0.jpg)

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/2572/dukiconvictkz2.th.jpg (http://img177.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dukiconvictkz2.jpg)

jonowev
09-27-2006, 03:41 PM
^^^^ the second with daffy duck, AWESOME

as for the argument, hillarious, but getting old quickly

phish
09-27-2006, 03:44 PM
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5446/phish1ha7.th.jpg (http://img177.imageshack.us/my.php?image=phish1ha7.jpg)

any comments?

S8nt
09-27-2006, 03:46 PM
^ a lot more practice with more weed

PeYGoNeR
09-27-2006, 04:03 PM
Originally posted by PeYGoNeR@Sep 26 2006, 07:20 PM
yoo novella there all looking pretty good im liking the 4th one the most and see your shits looking pretty desint too keep practicing heres a fast peices i did a while ago just did the fill like 5 mins ago its not the greatest peice but its somthing to look at and give crits thanks
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/5300/damean060bx2.jpg
bump for crits

alive
09-27-2006, 04:24 PM
school is here.............................................. .
so notebook sketches are back in style.
all pen freestyles, only colors i had. ummmmmm, they say POLICE, ELEMENT, PATROL, SEVENTH.
i dont really like any of the sketches very much, the "seventh" is aiight. for those worse then me, you can see the way i constructed the letters with bars, use that.
and everyone better then me, please do give me advice

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g121/coercethemasses/DSC02742.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g121/coercethemasses/DSC02741.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g121/coercethemasses/DSC02740.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g121/coercethemasses/DSC02738.jpg



thanks,
peace.

SeeOne
09-27-2006, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by jmammo+Sep 27 2006, 03:34 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (jmammo @ Sep 27 2006, 03:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Toy Story@Sep 27 2006, 03:33 PM

Originally posted by jmammo@Sep 27 2006, 03:27 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Toy Story@Sep 27 2006, 02:31 PM

I dont think your opnion matters at all considering your sketches are horrible and have no flow.
I said that they didnt matter cuz I am a fucking toy and I know it but dont give me shit just tell me what to change. If you dont like me giving crits dont pay any attention to them then christ
Lol.
post some of your shit up then [/b][/quote]
Toy Story is my old account, I just left it on and ended up posting using Toy Story.

As for my "shit" I already posted it.

si0n
09-27-2006, 04:44 PM
dude you&#39;ve gotten so much better, only thing i can say is that the letter structure on the patrol one could use some improvement.

Chop Logic
09-27-2006, 04:48 PM
First time using watercolors, and I dont know what the hell is going on on top of the H, I just did a quick outline to try mixing watercolors and markers. Also thats not the flash, I was trying to get the watercolors to do kind of a fade thing.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/FluxOfPinja/apho.jpg

Still gotta color in the smaller letters and the star, but yeah. Crits/comments?

SeeOne
09-27-2006, 04:51 PM
^^

Not a fan of water colours or art with actually paint but that shit looks nice.

aces
09-27-2006, 04:53 PM
Originally posted by aces@Sep 27 2006, 04:06 PM
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/9530/picture025jk5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Goin a little more tech with it. Crits? Should I color it?
I&#39;m just wondering if I should change anything before I ink it. And that watercolor piece looks like you really rushed the outline and then took time with the coloring.

naomh
09-27-2006, 05:01 PM
^^^^^^
shouldn&#39;t there be som more 3D on the p, a, z, and m? It just looks to me like its missing some. You did the left side of the S, but didn&#39;t do it on any other letters. Looks good though.

jmammo
09-27-2006, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by SeeOne@Sep 27 2006, 04:42 PM
As for my "shit" I already posted it.
I give you stuff major props just didnt like the bump on the E. You dont have to change it. you asked for comments so I gave one to you. And as for my stuff being horrible like I said before I know.

I aint trying to start anything so just chillllll

aces
09-27-2006, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by naomh@Sep 27 2006, 06:01 PM
^^^^^^
shouldn&#39;t there be som more 3D on the p, a, z, and m? It just looks to me like its missing some. You did the left side of the S, but didn&#39;t do it on any other letters. Looks good though.
Naw. It just looks like that cuz it hasn&#39;t been colored. When you see it colored you&#39;ll see all the 3-D and it will make sence.

furious
09-27-2006, 05:25 PM
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e336/notvdoctor/crayon.jpg
simple, childish, crayons, camera phone. i only like the k and u

plus i just suck. crits?

TricksForKids
09-27-2006, 05:34 PM
Originally posted by dont tag trees+Sep 27 2006, 12:22 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (dont tag trees &#064; Sep 27 2006, 12:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by beke@Sep 26 2006, 11:05 PM

Originally posted by novella@Sep 26 2006, 10:46 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-nerdx@Sep 26 2006, 09:30 PM
yo dino kill that sig man its huge.

guys had me thinkin bezerker
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/839/img2549ng6.jpg
miser in dope bzerker style.
bump because this is soo sick, and no one had anything to say about it

this style is nuts, i love it. maybe ill try something like this
no1 has anything to say cuz you may as well have taken that in the dark, shed some light on it and then we&#39;ll shed some light on your style :)
maybe no one cares what you think
this forum sucks, you kids shouldnt be here. the only reason your still toy is because your on this forum. get a life. if you want to be good at anything you have to pracise, thats it. you dont need good pointers or false advise or anyother bullshit because you will all develope in the same borring manner. you all suck only because you spend more time talking than doodling. if you want to talk to someone talk in person, not over some gay ass internet site where noone has even seen a paint can, or at least i hope not. dont get me wronge the other forums are fine, but thats only because the people contributing to them have some experience and something to offer the community of writers on this website. you should all be doing your homework and working your community hours. and PLEASE dont ask me why im even on this forum or whatever your little combacks will be, please. i dont need this crap. [/b][/quote]
dont tag trees.... dont come in this thread and start dissing kids...you&#39;re just as toy as half the kids here.

Half the kids here have also painted, and painted better than you have.

and you come on this forum for the same reason half these kids do..because you like to talk at your computer..and you dont know anyone.

Me and sky 5 and Mf and Ase and Anzio and Cezr, and others, the guys who stop by here to give advice, could burn any of your sketches, im no king, but i like helping these guys, at least the ones that listen.

Your style is just as generic as the next mans, but uglier, so dont say theyll all "develop" the same way either.

Dont come in here again on your high horse...or ill slice off all its feet.

imported_Bes_one
09-27-2006, 05:38 PM
This is for someone at my school. It says "Fl3xx" I have no idea what it means but he says he&#39;s gonna pay me.

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/9162/pict0645ct8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

TricksForKids
09-27-2006, 05:39 PM
Originally posted by TricksForKids+Sep 27 2006, 05:34 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (TricksForKids @ Sep 27 2006, 05:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by dont tag trees@Sep 27 2006, 12:22 AM

Originally posted by beke@Sep 26 2006, 11:05 PM

Originally posted by novella@Sep 26 2006, 10:46 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-nerdx@Sep 26 2006, 09:30 PM
yo dino kill that sig man its huge.

guys had me thinkin bezerker
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/839/img2549ng6.jpg
miser in dope bzerker style.
bump because this is soo sick, and no one had anything to say about it

this style is nuts, i love it. maybe ill try something like this
no1 has anything to say cuz you may as well have taken that in the dark, shed some light on it and then we&#39;ll shed some light on your style :)
maybe no one cares what you think
this forum sucks, you kids shouldnt be here. the only reason your still toy is because your on this forum. get a life. if you want to be good at anything you have to pracise, thats it. you dont need good pointers or false advise or anyother bullshit because you will all develope in the same borring manner. you all suck only because you spend more time talking than doodling. if you want to talk to someone talk in person, not over some gay ass internet site where noone has even seen a paint can, or at least i hope not. dont get me wronge the other forums are fine, but thats only because the people contributing to them have some experience and something to offer the community of writers on this website. you should all be doing your homework and working your community hours. and PLEASE dont ask me why im even on this forum or whatever your little combacks will be, please. i dont need this crap.
dont tag trees.... dont come in this thread and start dissing kids...you&#39;re just as toy as half the kids here.

Half the kids here have also painted, and painted better than you have.

and you come on this forum for the same reason half these kids do..because you like to talk at your computer..and you dont know anyone.

Me and sky 5 and Mf and Ase and Anzio and Cezr, and others, the guys who stop by here to give advice, could burn any of your sketches, im no king, but i like helping these guys, at least the ones that listen.

Your style is just as generic as the next mans, but uglier, so dont say theyll all "develop" the same way either.

Dont come in here again on your high horse...or ill slice off all its feet. [/b][/quote]
bump..

and bes one...man its just...i can tell you have some basics for colouring down, and a fairly steady hand, but get some LETTERS up in there, its just a jumbly mess

Peace

Slushi
09-27-2006, 05:55 PM
next person who bumps that is emo.

myl
09-27-2006, 05:58 PM
nerdx that piece is pretty damn sick

alive
09-27-2006, 06:04 PM
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g121/coercethemasses/DSC02738.jpg
bumppppppppppppppppppppppppppp

minesweep
09-27-2006, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by A&#045;chue&#33;@Sep 27 2006, 03:05 PM
new style
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g220/ginoforce/PACEbrick.jpg
bump because it&#39;s one of the better things in the toy forum

Slushi
09-27-2006, 06:07 PM
Originally posted by alive@Sep 27 2006, 06:04 PM
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g121/coercethemasses/DSC02738.jpg
bumppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
your second e has no bottom and straighten out the right side of you h.

A-chue!
09-27-2006, 06:12 PM
I think if you round off the edges an dmake the letters the same size the second has alot of potential.

Reffering to that duki peice a few back

riddleboxxmcl
09-27-2006, 06:34 PM
some things i recently did none of them are final...
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j239/riddleboxxmcl/Picture033.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j239/riddleboxxmcl/Picture031.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j239/riddleboxxmcl/Picture029.jpg
already posted this vvv
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j239/riddleboxxmcl/Picture007-1.jpg
i always seem to fuck up either the "g" or the "r" <_<
crits????

o shit i didnt think thay would be that big..sry

uhhh
09-27-2006, 06:38 PM
i couldnt find a decent letter in any of those. do simples.

simples=simple block letters. like on your keyboard. or in a dictionary. write your name like arial font. write it until it looks good. and until someone good says it looks good or at least decent. you will do this for a loong time. not a day or week. or even month. but months.

NICCSACC
09-27-2006, 06:43 PM
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i164/NICCSACC/digicam1116.jpg

TricksForKids
09-27-2006, 06:48 PM
not feelin the N, simply because its not an N, but the rest of it flows really nicely, and very clean, props

Fosale!
09-27-2006, 06:49 PM
like the new style, just not feelin&#39; the N

furious
09-27-2006, 06:50 PM
thats hot

not to crazy bout backwards n&#39;s but the rest is fire the v and m look sexy

NICCSACC
09-27-2006, 06:55 PM
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i164/NICCSACC/digicam1117.jpg

NICCSACC
09-27-2006, 07:00 PM
Originally posted by NICCSACC@Sep 27 2006, 06:43 PM
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i164/NICCSACC/digicam1116.jpg
yo the "N" is part of the "E" and ya dig what im sayin (i like to roll like that anyway...). ehh you bastards are never satisfied... :rolleyes:

TricksForKids
09-27-2006, 07:02 PM
weeds played out.... decent though...feelin the first one alot more

ghozt
09-27-2006, 07:05 PM
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/8775/scan0029yf7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

crits? im not really good with backgrounds and what shuld i change about my letter structure?

ZOMone
09-27-2006, 07:07 PM
you should make your letters more... unique, but im gonna need some complaints about my stuff
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m129/zomone/Picture005.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m129/zomone/Picture004.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m129/zomone/Picture003.jpg

NICCSACC
09-27-2006, 07:08 PM
i like that last one with the green and split pea soup green outline or whatever. the letters are kinda suspect in all of em but that last one is pretty cool to me.

alera
09-27-2006, 07:12 PM
i like the first one, nice fill

first time peacin in a little while been workin on my throw, kinda got a 1 liner
tryed flares on the e but i dont know if i like it
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/713/0927062000ahp9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
critz anyone?

ARMAwonR
09-27-2006, 07:16 PM
the &#39;e&#39; and the &#39;r&#39; are too fat

all your other letters are skinnier

thats my 2cents

NICCSACC
09-27-2006, 07:17 PM
that shits pretty hot dude. wanna collab on the next team battle? i think our stuff would look good 2gether.

ZOMone
09-27-2006, 07:17 PM
thanks for the comments i like the last one too, ALERA- im liking the E very much

Serb
09-27-2006, 07:18 PM
First Post, this is my third and fourth sketch, the first two where gay and I went to wild, and looke dmajor toy. So Im starting nice and simple. B)

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i1/neilknapman/Picture15.jpg


http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i1/neilknapman/Picture16.jpg


Which D do you like better, and I hate the L , but theres not really any other way to do an L blockbuster is there...

Oh right, it says Dzol.

OliveOil
09-27-2006, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by minesweep+Sep 27 2006, 06:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (minesweep @ Sep 27 2006, 06:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-A&#045;chue&#33;@Sep 27 2006, 03:05 PM
new style
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g220/ginoforce/PACEbrick.jpg
bump because it&#39;s one of the better things in the toy forum [/b][/quote]
this kinda got engulfed by the beef.

simples simples simples kiddos.

bouncingsoul
09-27-2006, 07:28 PM
Throwie for new name... "ne"

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g314/poopdepants/IMG_0246.jpg

alera
09-27-2006, 07:30 PM
im likin that throw ne ;)

zom- thanks that came out of my letter shop aka english note book god that class is boring

nicc- shure i could colab but i bont rilly have that mutch time for sketchin

Quadratic
09-27-2006, 07:34 PM
Changing your name again bouncingsoul ???

You still slackin on that exchange you owe me ?&#33; It&#39;s cool.

Critz on these ??

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g263/titmar/5masoe.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g263/titmar/4masoe.jpg

bouncingsoul
09-27-2006, 07:35 PM
New name is Newt... And I&#39;ll get to it... Still busy with schoolwork

Neer1
09-27-2006, 07:37 PM
didnt somone use to rit newt then changer it to newter or somthin

Quadratic
09-27-2006, 07:38 PM
Originally posted by Quadratic@Sep 27 2006, 07:34 PM


http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g263/titmar/5masoe.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g263/titmar/4masoe.jpg
bump for crits on new page

aces
09-27-2006, 07:39 PM
Originally posted by aces@Sep 27 2006, 04:06 PM
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/9530/picture025jk5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Goin a little more tech with it. Crits? Should I color it?
Bump?

SheOne
09-27-2006, 07:39 PM
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/8673/hbjkbkj016kp4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

what you guys think about this one? put it in line so constructive critz? :)

SeeOne
09-27-2006, 07:40 PM
Quad: Im feelin the S and the M ALOT.

watch out for the extra things u added, simplicity is the key.

d_g
09-27-2006, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by Neer1@Sep 28 2006, 12:37 PM
didnt somone use to rit newt then changer it to newter or somthin
I wrote Newt a couple of months ago, sometimes I would write Newter.

I didn&#39;t like the letters so I changed what I wrote.

Seka.
09-27-2006, 07:44 PM
First Sketch, i started simple, the blue "paint spot" is supposed to be closer to the s but i messed up and couldnt fix it.


http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/1893/p9270243yb4.jpg

Crits?

LB x TAME
09-27-2006, 07:45 PM
SHE, i like that handstyle a lot actually, i dont even know why theres somethin about it that i like... i think you need to work on that throw a lot tho, not too good..

bouncingsoul
09-27-2006, 07:46 PM
Haha cool, I never knew that

SeeOne
09-27-2006, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by Seka.@Sep 27 2006, 07:44 PM
First Sketch, i started simple, the blue "paint spot" is supposed to be closer to the s but i messed up and couldnt fix it.


http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/1893/p9270243yb4.jpg

Crits?
Its alright.. you could make it a bit more dynamic..


Im seeing too much of this "style" but eh, its style progression.

Keep workin at it.

;)

NOMX
09-27-2006, 07:49 PM
u people need to stop bumping ur shit to diffrent pages, if someone is gonna give u crits they would of when u posted it, if u dont get any crits just fuckin draw up another piece and post that1. all the pages is just BUMP BUMP BUMPforcrits. most of the pieces that i see bumped arent all the good and dont look like the person put too much effort into it so fucking go back to drawing board and get some practice in

aces
09-27-2006, 07:53 PM
Alright I&#39;m sorry NOMX. I&#39;ll color it and then post it up when I&#39;m done.

Fosale!
09-27-2006, 07:54 PM
@ aces
on your M take out the connection btwn the 2 parts it makes the M look like another letter with a A

aces
09-27-2006, 07:55 PM
It won&#39;t when I&#39;m done coloring it I hope.

NOMX
09-27-2006, 07:59 PM
i wasnt talking directly to u so dont say sorry, this shit has been going on forever

Quadratic
09-27-2006, 08:01 PM
there is only like 10 posts or something per page so sometimes people&#39;s chit chat overshadows your pic within like 3 minutes.
thats why people keep bumping for crits.

:) peace


**edit** see? like i just did.

bouncingsoul
09-27-2006, 08:06 PM
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g314/poopdepants/IMG_0247.jpg

aces
09-27-2006, 08:07 PM
That&#39;s sweet bouncingsoul but the W seems weird in the middle part.

Quadratic
09-27-2006, 08:12 PM
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g263/titmar/rosko-exch.jpg

for an exchange on 12oz

T_R_O_N
09-27-2006, 08:23 PM
oh thats fire bro

aces
09-27-2006, 08:25 PM
Lose the arrow because it only appears in that one place and it looks rather out of place.

bouncingsoul
09-27-2006, 08:26 PM
Well he can&#39;t do it now, it&#39;s already colored and everything

Quadratic
09-27-2006, 08:28 PM
lol yea, i did that a while ago i just thought i would post it...

yea the arrow was a little weird but whatever, the letters are decent

PeYGoNeR
09-27-2006, 08:31 PM
^^lol yoo bouncingsoul thats look pretty good same to u quadratic for next time lose the arrow like aces said other than that keep it up lol.peace

-testify-
09-27-2006, 08:48 PM
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/9031/androidvz8.png (http://imageshack.us)

for the weekly handstyle battle

lost_for_evex
09-27-2006, 08:59 PM
Originally posted by Apoc+Sep 27 2006, 02:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Apoc @ Sep 27 2006, 02:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by trashhh@Sep 27 2006, 12:26 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Apoc@Sep 27 2006, 10:54 AM
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b365/Apocaloid/P1010016.jpg

I suck at upper case A&#39;s
Aone was a old school Bronx legend. Rip Aone... so change
4 reasons why I don&#39;t care about your opinion -

1. I don&#39;t live in the bronx, or paris.

2. I&#39;ve been writing aoner for over a year now, i&#39;ve gotten ups with decent heads, no one cares.

3. Hes dead... people will know i&#39;m not him

4. I don&#39;t know you [/b][/quote]
wow i gave u that name a year ago?...fuck i feel like im gettin 2 old =[

TricksForKids
09-27-2006, 09:07 PM
fresh shit newt, and rosko thats pretty nice for a srtating point, keep it up..

YOUZE AN ANDROID&#33;

playin around with android for the handstyle battle, whatchall think???
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/1631/androidww7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

DeathRow
09-27-2006, 09:08 PM
Originally posted by DeathRow@Sep 27 2006, 06:22 AM
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/4794/ehhpu8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

URL=http://imageshack.us]http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/379/ehhhii4.jpg[/URL]

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/4843/ehhhhhju7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/6885/0001392yb5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)




can i get some feedback yo..

peace

bouncingsoul
09-27-2006, 09:08 PM
I dig that shit. Except the little thing above the O, but yeah. Good stuff

TricksForKids
09-27-2006, 09:09 PM
Death its lookin colla than a polar bears toenails...but on the real..

its looking weirdly bubbly, i cn tell you ahve letter structure down but the whole peice as a whole gives the vibe thats its like mushy, i dunno, get a couple straighter lines, and keep your widthes of small lines the same, and straight

Peace

Apoc
09-27-2006, 09:42 PM
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b365/Apocaloid/goodaone2.jpg

yeah evex I think it was about a year ago... maybe a little less... I got this account in october of last year and you named me when I had like very little posts.

TricksForKids
09-27-2006, 09:43 PM
Originally posted by TricksForKids@Sep 27 2006, 09:07 PM
fresh shit newt, and rosko thats pretty nice for a srtating point, keep it up..

YOUZE AN ANDROID&#33;

playin around with android for the handstyle battle, whatchall think???
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/1631/androidww7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
clean shit aoner, nice and simple and very good colouring, just work on the samll extensions and either tone them down a bit or extend them into STRAIGHT FIRE...anyhoo..bumping this handstyle for some crits cuz im rugged like that.

Peace

Apoc
09-27-2006, 09:49 PM
its good but i&#39;d say keep it straight and lose the underline or like, keep it closer or touching the bottom of the letters

myl
09-27-2006, 10:02 PM
Originally posted by SeeOne+Sep 27 2006, 07:46 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (SeeOne @ Sep 27 2006, 07:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Seka.@Sep 27 2006, 07:44 PM
First Sketch, i started simple, the blue "paint spot" is supposed to be closer to the s but i messed up and couldnt fix it.


http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/1893/p9270243yb4.jpg

Crits?
Its alright.. you could make it a bit more dynamic..


Im seeing too much of this "style" but eh, its style progression.

Keep workin at it.

;) [/b][/quote]
wow that was horrible advice seeone...its gonna be hard to progress from that style and get somethin good outta it...

do straight letters nice and simple. give them letters some breathing room inbetween the extensions of the parts of the letters

DeathRow
09-27-2006, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by TricksForKids@Sep 27 2006, 09:09 PM
Death its lookin colla than a polar bears toenails...but on the real..

its looking weirdly bubbly, i cn tell you ahve letter structure down but the whole peice as a whole gives the vibe thats its like mushy, i dunno, get a couple straighter lines, and keep your widthes of small lines the same, and straight

Peace
Cheers, yeah i been trying to get away from the roundish style.. but I cant seem to do it.. Meh.. gotta keep practisin :P

thanx for the crits fellas..

poice

*~ANZIO~*
09-27-2006, 10:16 PM
your on your way apoc.

sky 5
09-27-2006, 11:05 PM
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/3073/1191953vn9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/4320/1191954gh9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


some quick lazy joints . . .

NOMX
09-27-2006, 11:07 PM
hot shit mang, u sketch alot. i should probably do that too........naw

myl
09-27-2006, 11:14 PM
ahhhhh beautiful stuff sky5

VILA
09-27-2006, 11:19 PM
Here are a few things I just drew up. Thoughts and suggestions would be apprciated.
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l229/VILA8/IMG_0036.jpg
(Sorry I couldn&#39;t get it to a reasonable size.)
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l229/VILA8/IMG_0038.jpg

novella
09-27-2006, 11:34 PM
the top one, try to make all of the letters the same size, height wise and width wise

youre on the right track

ARMAwonR
09-27-2006, 11:51 PM
cRits?

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/p9cd6adae63e3fbf984cd9edc14db28a0/ecc58dbd.jpg

Apoc
09-28-2006, 12:18 AM
Originally posted by *~ANZIO~*@Sep 27 2006, 10:16 PM
your on your way apoc.
I&#39;m almost as cool as this guy

http://home.online.no/~marttr/idiot.jpg

OliveOil
09-28-2006, 02:30 AM
die.

Kayone707
09-28-2006, 03:28 AM
Originally posted by Quadratic@Sep 27 2006, 06:12 PM
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g263/titmar/rosko-exch.jpg

for an exchange on 12oz
your usin a different style for every letter. stick with the style on the S an make all your letters the same size...

aces
09-28-2006, 05:28 AM
Wow kay checks this thread still.

SheOne
09-28-2006, 06:28 AM
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/4337/hbjkbkj017ry4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

new H. any critz? :D

dutch-sketch
09-28-2006, 09:05 AM
Not feelin the S

Some new sketches:

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/9466/skesh1ll3.jpg

Fucking red ran out of ink and I fucked up the &#39;extra effect coloring&#39;
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/9494/skesh2nl1.jpg

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6796/sketsbubbleeo0.jpg


crits/comments/tips/props/flames?

Apoc
09-28-2006, 10:15 AM
they are all pretty bad... keep it simple and make sure all the letters are the same size.

jonowev
09-28-2006, 10:17 AM
the stars on the bottom one are just plain ugly

jonowev
09-28-2006, 10:27 AM
can someone comment on this sketch i did last night? any helpful pointers on what to improve/try next? thnx :)
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n88/jonowev/Asketch.jpg

dutch-sketch
09-28-2006, 10:40 AM
Originally posted by Apoc@Sep 28 2006, 10:15 AM
they are all pretty bad... keep it simple and make sure all the letters are the same size.
I&#39;m sketching for two weeks now
I&#39;m now trying some 3d
the red one is ugly, but i like the blue one actually

jonowev
09-28-2006, 11:14 AM
try to be regular and precise when you do the black outline. the bottom one would be quite nice if it was less sketchy

Apoc
09-28-2006, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by sky 5@Sep 27 2006, 11:05 PM
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/3073/1191953vn9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
fire

ARMAwonR
09-28-2006, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by ARMAwonR@Sep 27 2006, 11:51 PM
cRits?

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/p9cd6adae63e3fbf984cd9edc14db28a0/ecc58dbd.jpg
Bump

jonowev
09-28-2006, 11:43 AM
seriously awesome Apoc. probably fill the body in with a bold colour or do it on bright white paper and would look even better :P

ARMAwonR
09-28-2006, 11:44 AM
do you think that up there is Apocs?&#33; :blink:

you must have no concept of quoting

jonowev
09-28-2006, 11:49 AM
ooooh i see what you mean&#33; i was gonna say &#39;that seems good for a toy&#39;
i didnt thee the &#39;quote&#39; at the top of the image.
still an awesome sketch tho :lol:

ARMAwonR
09-28-2006, 11:53 AM
ohh yes ... its a very awesome sketch :)

jonowev
09-28-2006, 12:02 PM
comment on these please people? thnx muchly :)

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n88/jonowev/JAYsketch2.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n88/jonowev/Asketch.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n88/jonowev/JONsketch.jpg

aces
09-28-2006, 01:01 PM
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/7264/1085559173480526590ng6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Colored it. Sorry bout the shitty pic it was on my phone. Crits?

phish
09-28-2006, 01:09 PM
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/1984/phish2tb1.th.jpg (http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=phish2tb1.jpg)

crits?

PeYGoNeR
09-28-2006, 01:13 PM
aces its looking good im not really feeling the conected lines on the letters and phish i like that the shading looks good.peace.

jonowev
09-28-2006, 01:22 PM
yeah phish the shading looks good, but i think the &#39;s&#39; is just a little bit squashed, other than that nicely done :)

jonowev
09-28-2006, 01:24 PM
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n88/jonowev/JONsketch.jpg
crits please?
(sorry to keep posting, but i want opinions)

WolfBurrns
09-28-2006, 01:51 PM
Dont use pen. Use pencil so you can erase your mistakes. And start with block letters. It&#39;s all about structure. All your letters aren&#39;t proportional with it&#39;s parts. Example, the left side of your &#39;N&#39; is fatter than the right side. The &#39;J&#39; is the same way and the &#39;O&#39; has no structure either. Just go with simple shit.

jonowev
09-28-2006, 02:11 PM
what do you mean by no structure on the &#39;O&#39;?

Apoc
09-28-2006, 02:14 PM
the pointy thing on the right side of th O is bad

5yn
09-28-2006, 02:19 PM
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f124/5yn/Picture28.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f124/5yn/Picture776.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f124/5yn/Picture566.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f124/5yn/Picture568.jpg

some are old but any crits?

phish
09-28-2006, 02:20 PM
you should start with simple block lettering and work from there

example

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/1788/jonsf3.th.jpg (http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jonsf3.jpg)

jonowev
09-28-2006, 02:21 PM
the bottom one is cool, but dont like the green around the edge.
i see what you mean about the thing sticking out of the &#39;o&#39; - its baaaaaad

jonowev
09-28-2006, 02:23 PM
ive tried shit like that ^^^^ and want to move on to slightly more interesting stuff.
thanx for the lil drawing tho :D
any tips on where to go from block letters?

WolfBurrns
09-28-2006, 02:24 PM
By the way, is Jon your real name? If it is, I suggest you dont use it.

jonowev
09-28-2006, 02:27 PM
no its not my real name. and its not my tag name. i write &#39;JAY&#39; as my tag, but when i practice at home and in class on paper, i write &#39;JON&#39; coz its short for my real name. i write &#39;JON&#39; as a decoy name really, for the stuff i want people to see.

some guy from NCI...
09-28-2006, 02:31 PM
wow... you are seriously smart.

Bartic
09-28-2006, 02:31 PM
i&#39;ve been trying to slow down a bit and work on letter structure...
http://img486.imageshack.us/img486/8848/suki15nh2.png
am i getting there?

jonowev
09-28-2006, 02:34 PM
lol, i sense the sarcasm&#33;

its common sense tho really&#33; i write &#39;JON&#39; all over my schoolbooks and crap, and have a secret sketch book where i do my &#39;JAY&#39; sketches.

some guy from NCI...
09-28-2006, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by Bartic@Sep 28 2006, 02:31 PM
i&#39;ve been trying to slow down a bit and work on letter structure...
http://img486.imageshack.us/img486/8848/suki15nh2.png
am i getting there?
slow down a bit more...

go to simples... getting your simples good is harder than you&#39;d expect.

PeYGoNeR
09-28-2006, 02:39 PM
^^haha lol thats funny shit......
bartic it looks good but try making all the letters the same size and work on the 3d

5yn
09-28-2006, 02:40 PM
Originally posted by Bartic@Sep 28 2006, 02:31 PM
i&#39;ve been trying to slow down a bit and work on letter structure...
http://img486.imageshack.us/img486/8848/suki15nh2.png
am i getting there?
i like it man its sick but that s&#39;s bottom could be a bit bigger to even it out no? and mabey the top of the s shouldnt tuch it self, just seeing if i can help :P i cant do better tho i like it

jonowev
09-28-2006, 02:41 PM
i think its ok..... but shading needed&#33;

-testify-
09-28-2006, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by &#045;testify&#045;@Sep 27 2006, 08:48 PM
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/9031/androidvz8.png (http://imageshack.us)

for the weekly handstyle battle
k i posted this earlier and everyone ignored it..is it any good?

5yn
09-28-2006, 02:42 PM
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f124/5yn/Picture30.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f124/5yn/Picture32.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f124/5yn/Picture33.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f124/5yn/Picture34.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f124/5yn/Picture36.jpg

just doodles any crits?

Bartic
09-28-2006, 02:42 PM
thx guys, finally some serious feedback

-testify-
09-28-2006, 02:43 PM
haha nice mushroom

jonowev
09-28-2006, 02:44 PM
some of those are a bit messy/sketchy ^^^^ agreed&#33; nice mushroom

5yn
09-28-2006, 02:44 PM
haha thanks i used to bomb them like with crack fills and crack fill&#39;d 3d they looked alright

jonowev
09-28-2006, 02:47 PM
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n88/jonowev/Asketch.jpg
what do you people think of this quick sketch? ^^^^

-testify-
09-28-2006, 02:49 PM
whats it say

Bartic
09-28-2006, 02:50 PM
i&#39;m assuming it says jon or jay but personally cannot make it out

5yn
09-28-2006, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by jonowev@Sep 28 2006, 02:47 PM
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n88/jonowev/Asketch.jpg
what do you people think of this quick sketch? ^^^^
honestly i dont see any letters but then again i am all high n shit haha

jonowev
09-28-2006, 02:51 PM
its just an &#39;A&#39;. i wanted to practice one and make it a bit more complex than just block lettering

-testify-
09-28-2006, 02:51 PM
yea i thought it might be an a make the parts all go together and i dont really like that jagged part near the bottom but that may be your style so i dont know

jonowev
09-28-2006, 02:53 PM
yeah, i like the colours. that jagged bit does kinda skew it a bit. will leave it out next time

Bartic
09-28-2006, 02:55 PM
jono: keep it all togedther nobody can tell what it was if it was in a peice, the little hook in the middle of the a needs to go and the proportions such as being as wide as it is tall and the jaged parts at the top need fixing

jonowev
09-28-2006, 02:59 PM
klkl. thanks for the construuctive comments peeps&#33; i will keep working on my style, maybe try some basic 3-D stuff too

:)

5yn
09-28-2006, 02:59 PM
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f124/5yn/Picture37.jpg

some more doodles i cant seem to stop sketchin right now ha. crits?

jonowev
09-28-2006, 03:01 PM
whats with all the eeeeeeee&#39;s?

the bottom 2 are not bad tho :D