Tags

[sale604]

http://img110.mytextgraphics.com/photolava/2008/03/19/untitled-49w219iaq.bmp

[Darkeist]

cerex - its seems backwards to me in the photo, but from what i can tell, its nice and simple. Which i like.
sale - work on the y

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k100/skateaholic_2006/imcool658.jpg

[-Leski]

congrats leski you got it down. I might do a little extension on the N and a little longer on the R's line rather than cutting it off. Last, your star at the end looks kinda like an A. Try to do it more dondi style
http://i26.tinypic.com/2enahyw.jpg

Haha, made my day man. Thanks.
I'll keep working on it as always, The tall stars are a bad habit.

Darkiest, excellent start man. First letter, D right?, needs more definition, the rest are ace.

Jens, You rock that backwards? or did you flip the picture...

ceesol, center left: loose the qoutes, you dont really need them. The L looks kinda like a G or C. Otherwise dope. Like Said said, your got the flow, just work on them letters.

[Darkeist]

YUp, first letter is a D, thanks. But D's are hard as fuck, and everytime i try to do another d. it doesnt flow. but thanks man

[Jihad]

darkest- try every combination of how tight you hold your pen/marker and where you start the letter. By that i mean starting the D at the bottom curving up, appose to starting at the top curving down-shit like that. try different combinations of that stuff and just get a notebook and burn whole pages corner to corner of just one letter. You are off to the right start... getting down simples like how you're doing now is the absolute right way to go if you wanna progress fast.

[-->CeeSoL]

ceesol, center left: loose the qoutes, you dont really need them. The L looks kinda like a G or C. Otherwise dope. Like Said said, your got the flow, just work on them letters.

heh thanks,
& The only reason it looks like a g or a c on the larger tag, is cause of the exclamation point.. I'll make sure I keep that in mind though ;]

[Thrice]

that's not my tag....Dondi's man. Just posting it to show the type of star leski should go for.

[StAtiK1]

oh my bad haha

[cerex89]

Haha, made my day man. Thanks.


Jens, You rock that backwards? or did you flip the picture...
.
yea the pic is fliped

[-Leski]

heh thanks,
& The only reason it looks like a g or a c on the larger tag, is cause of the exclamation point.. I'll make sure I keep that in mind though ;]

My bad, yah the exclamation point kinda melded into the L.

Jens; I cant write backwards either. :'(

Dramer, give this D a try.
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/7215/jhviugvlojhgc5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Tilt your head.... way to the right... My bad haha.

[-->CeeSoL]

YUp, first letter is a D, thanks. But D's are hard as fuck, and everytime i try to do another d. it doesnt flow. but thanks man

Idk if this helps but, I like the top loops with D
heres a quick one;
http://i30.tinypic.com/sc6n38.jpg

[SAID]

try and fix that halo.

[H3TT1NG3R]

^dude thats not his tag hes just helping darkiest out

[-->CeeSoL]

lol.. yeah;
well the halo needs a touch-up anyway lmao..

[Techkanuck]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b159/civichatch2005/Picture150.jpg
simple ideas, I'm really having trouble with feelin out the V flow

I'll crit on the next page of flics

[woozie]

http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz0gs2.jpg
i can't get it to work right so this is the best i can do.

[DERM]

Try not doing cursive, Woozie

[woozie]

ya i know but i struggle with handstyles. techanuck i like the top 3.

[Engine.357]

Just Drew this today in art class with Deco's
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x182/christian_tg/tag10.jpg

[Darkeist]

Idk if this helps but, I like the top loops with D
heres a quick one;
http://i30.tinypic.com/sc6n38.jpg

Yo thanks mate for helping me out. But i think i got a D and one that flows. But im not gonna post until its gotten better

[jerm_haf]

"Jerm"

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u91/jerm531/jerm_tagz.jpg

[SAID]

dont like how the r and the e are connecting..

[jerm_haf]

dont like how the r and the e are connecting..

in which one (top or bottom?)

[SAID]

both.
dislike the top one more.

[jerm_haf]

i've been using the bottom one more lately. any suggestions..?

[SAID]

try and add some flow to your letters.
check out the "new to graff thread"
helps allot of people out.
it'll give you somewhere to start.
;)

[remos]

engine try to make the letters all the same size
im bad like that with my o's but im getting better...
just like if u need help or something try it on lined paper

[MUSEone]

Just Drew this today in art class with Deco's
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x182/christian_tg/tag10.jpg

Wrong thread.....

[ArTiStIc_ObSeSsIoN]

http://i31.tinypic.com/2iw34ic.jpg
crits?

[Engine.357]

Pick a favorite 1-5

I like 1 the best myself

Any changes you would make too?

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x182/christian_tg/tagster.png

[Amore]

New tag...crits?
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w288/colton308/H1Parts014.jpg

[Edward"Sezer"Hands]

change your name kiddo.

[Amore]

again..fuck.

[MilkyCanvas]

Damn, It'd be nice if I could crit you guys, but I don't know shit about style. I'm as toyish as they get. And theres no way I'm putting my shitty tag on the street until it looks at the very least decent.

Now, I'm aware that theres no way you guys can help me anymore. You've told me all you can. But can you tell me if these few crap tags that I came up with are at LEAST better than the last two that I had? Which are located here: http://www.bombingscience.com/graffitiforum/showthread.php?t=702&page=912
And here: http://www.bombingscience.com/graffitiforum/showthread.php?t=702&page=911


Now for the most recent ones. Are they better? Which is the best?
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y134/historical/Graf/DSC00465.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y134/historical/Graf/DSC00472.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y134/historical/Graf/DSC00466.jpg

[Darkeist]

Milk - Go simple. if youd listen to the advice people would give you youd be better. But you need to go simple. copy letters off your keyboard. then slowly bend then and shit.. Dont do arrows out of letters, and dont make the letters blockish like that, it constricts flow

[kick]

first tag attempts pretty simple playing with a new name too. Labul
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3493/dsc00083xo3.jpg
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/707/dsc00084xy3.jpg
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/5760/dsc00088hf7.jpg

[Thrice]

lose those accessories and extra lines. Fix that B, looks like an R.

[-Leski]

Last time I offer my help.
Learn the strokes that make the letter, learn its shape and how to respect that shape so you can bend the letter and still have a letter. The you just add flow.

This will take time, lots of it. What did you expect? rocking a wild handstyle in under a month?
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/59/oihgvnlkuguw9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Cute]

went around town last night to hit up a few spots unfortunately didn't get my favorite one on camera, hopped out at the drive through at bk and hit up the menu sign...but it was gone this morning when i went for pictures
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/299/ian1lv0.jpg
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/3600/spain1mp0.jpg
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/3898/spain2pn1.jpg
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/2913/spain3kg3.jpg

[MUSEone]

And u used wat fot that?

[Cute]

paintmarker

[PumpItUp]

http://aycu19.webshots.com/image/45618/2002048750996369966_rs.jpg

any crits?

[Street Wize]

paintmarker

And that is probably why one of ur tags was gone already

[5Funerals]

they would have buffed anything.

[SCIEnce802]

Pumpitup--- Top right one is the best... has the most flow.

[SAID]

cute, your tag has mad flow, i just dont like the color part at the bottom.

[-Panik-]

Hey,
I just started out
and I kinda need some advice cas for a first tag I think it's decent but still kinda toy
I wanna make it good before writing anywhere BIG
Please give some advice XD

[SAID]

you got a good start.
try and check out the NEW TO GRAFF thread.

[-Panik-]

Alright thanks =D

[SAID]

no problem man.
that thread helps allot of people out and gives them direction when theyre stuck.

[-Panik-]

one more thing,
haha
Where is the new to graff thread, I can't find it XD

[SAID]

ahahaha,
here it is:
http://www.bombingscience.com/graffitiforum/showthread.php?t=2185

[Thrice]

Mania-Stick with the two on the right, and i'd loose the squiggles on the i.
Crit?? Tablet =]
http://i32.tinypic.com/ip1esm.jpg

[KASE2]

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q226/D_510/IMG000026.jpg
my usual tag 2 lazy 2 redo it jus kuz tha "W"(its 2 small 4 those who dont kno whats wrong) and then my 1 flow
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q226/D_510/IMG000027.jpg
my crew tag, i only use the 1 flow, but i jus decided 2 do tha othr "BF"
CRITS CRITS CRITS CRITS CRITS

[Engine.357]

Crits?
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x182/christian_tg/lfr.jpg

[KASE2]

Crits?
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x182/christian_tg/lfr.jpg
stop doin ur second "n" backwards nd lose tha halo

[KASE2]

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q226/D_510/IMG000026.jpg
my usual tag 2 lazy 2 redo it jus kuz tha "W"(its 2 small 4 those who dont kno whats wrong) and then my 1 flow
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q226/D_510/IMG000027.jpg
my crew tag, i only use the 1 flow, but i jus decided 2 do tha othr "BF"
CRITS CRITS CRITS CRITS CRITS

jus bumpn my shit 2 tha next page

[Engine.357]

stop doin ur second "n" backwards nd lose tha halo

The "N" isn't backwards because It's a lowercase "n"

[KASE2]

The "N" isn't backwards because It's a lowercase "n"

looks mor like a backwars "n" bruh

[-Leski]

http://aycu19.webshots.com/image/45618/2002048750996369966_rs.jpg

any crits?

Bumpity, that bottom left one has mad potential.
I love the style, stands out from the cursive trend thats going on with a lot of stuff you see these days. Its got a real "Nue School" feel... Lengthen your name a bit for it though.
ManiaOne, ManiaTen, ManiacOne <-- Like this or something.

The two on the right are good and safe.
--------------------------------------------

Kase2; Its a little tense and everywhere man, relax it. simplify and lean all the letters the same way.

Engn; Bottom left: Loose the halo, take off the N's tail and lengthen the underline.

[renegade185]

kase- not really feelin the T or the S in the first one. play around with it some more. On the bottom one, make it more simple, and cut your face out of it.
engine-lose the halo and keep messin with it. i kinda like it.
PumpItUp- i like the top left one.

been playin around with my t lately. i been messin around with this lately. crits?
hazmat
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l303/Renegade185/101_0295.jpg

[traP905]

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l17/3ride/nase-phillyshawty.jpg
crits?

[DRONE_905]

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l17/3ride/nase-phillyshawty.jpg
crits?

whats that supposed to say bro ? if it says trap then make it have more flow it just looks like a bunch of lines

[DRONE_905]

kase- not really feelin the T or the S in the first one. play around with it some more. On the bottom one, make it more simple, and cut your face out of it.
engine-lose the halo and keep messin with it. i kinda like it.
PumpItUp- i like the top left one.

been playin around with my t lately. i been messin around with this lately. crits?
hazmat
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l303/Renegade185/101_0295.jpg

i like this but its kinda hard to read but other than that its ight

[traP905]

i wite nase. u can c it just look lol

[Thrice]

Mania-Stick with the two on the right, and i'd loose the squiggles on the i.
Crit?? Tablet =]
http://i32.tinypic.com/ip1esm.jpg

trap-i'd make the N more legible, the A and S are nice, but i can't make out the E at all. So do a little cleaning and it should look nice.
BUMP FOR CRIT

[-Panik-]

Been playing around with shading
Crits ?

[-Panik-]

I kind of screwed up the P's shading, sorry for double posting

[Thrice]

give crit to get crit.

[-Panik-]

alright
Thrice, I like the Capital AHEM, it has nice flow, but try to add a little extra to make it unique and special, other than that love the tag

[JETPACK!!]

kase, your letters dont flow all too well, it may just be me but thats my crit:)
thrice, i like that e-m connection on the capital ahem. add some steeze into it though, looks kinna boring.
panik, thats not bad, but lose the qoutes, they played out.
renegade, looks ill, but its illegible. work on that

changed my name
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/139/tamkhandsteezeod6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[jerm_haf]

"jerm" (again)

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u91/jerm531/jerm_tagz-1.jpg

[JETPACK!!]

omg my eyes.

keep your lines straight and all your letters similar sizes

[sketch3]

its better than ur stuff

[JETPACK!!]

at least my lines are straight

[sketch3]

straight wack

at least i can read his

[JETPACK!!]

haha, i set myself up for that. a pound on the comeback. but yo honestly, my mom can read it, im surprised you cant

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

jerm you need some help...and when you do a letter try and do it all in one stroke
i can tell you dont doo it all in one stroke

look at the first one with that lil swirl bull shit...dont do that...and if you do try and do it in one stroke.

the last jerm in green look at your da m...you do the first line of the m ..take your marker off the paper...do the hook..ok then it looks like a lower case r..then you take ur marker off again..then you complete the M...you just dont do that...do it all in one stroke...\


long story short...YOU NEED HELP

do not do any tagging until some people aprove of it...not just if you or your toy friends thinks its cool

[jerm_haf]

better...?

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u91/jerm531/jerm_tagz001.jpg

[JETPACK!!]

that light/dark blue one is aight. nice R

[m.ziggy]

jetpack not really feeling it, cant tell what the letters are
jerm try using a chisel tip, the thin marker is making it look a lot shakier then it probably is
panik not bad, i like it
ahem i like the cap. one but keep playing with the letters

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

yea the light and dakr blue is sick


http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/diplomat123/PICT0469.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/diplomat123/PICT0465.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/diplomat123/PICT0466.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/diplomat123/PICT0468.jpg

[m.ziggy]

i like those bankz, i dont like how the lines go so far down on the 2nd and 3rd though

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

this ones bad..but the whole tag is suppose to curve like this i was jus too lazy to do so...lol

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/diplomat123/PICT0467.jpg

[SNAP!]

some recent one liner steez i been messing with...just gotta find a good way to connect the N&A...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3203/2350968224_631a7be67a_m_d.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2117/2333792539_960ebe9d5c_m_d.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2292/2334619036_e8d092f4a9_m_d.jpg

[MESN[905]]

yea the light and dakr blue is sick


http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/diplomat123/PICT0469.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/diplomat123/PICT0465.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/diplomat123/PICT0466.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/diplomat123/PICT0468.jpg

your arrows are so hiphop

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

lol..whats that suppose to mean^^

[MUSEone]

That he likes dick in his ass.

Dont listen to him.

[Amore]

change your name kiddo.

May I ask why?

EDIT- Im not trying to be a dick or anything, I just wanna know..

Thanks

[MUSEone]

thats wat he writes.

[Amore]

For real?

[MUSEone]

if ur writing, Tezer, then yes.

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

funny my other tag is REZR

[Amore]

Nah my tag wasnt Tezer..

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

it was SEiZE right ?

[Doctor Lucifer]

New tag...crits?
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w288/colton308/H1Parts014.jpg


;1013465']http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p284/rz3p0w/DSC_0055-1.jpg?t=1203540522

explained... or do you need more?

[Amore]

it was SEiZE right ?

Yessir.

[MUSEone]

Ok then, well look at the picture above ur post.

[Wallace]

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/5695/klasicsx8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

crits greatly wanted

[Amore]

I get it..fuckin back to the drawing boards.

[Doctor Lucifer]

Yessir.







:D

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

yea read the post above your seize by some guy in new hampshire

and SiEZE is taken by some guy where i live

how bout u try these i used to rock these

Shock1
turok
Zion1
Snotz
Rezr

[MUSEone]

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/5695/klasicsx8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

crits greatly wanted

5 is tha best, work on your flow, and dont dot the I w. a circle.

[JETPACK!!]

yo banks, that handsteeze is dope. im diggin the first and second flicks.

this anymore legible?
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/2240/tamkhandsteeze1bo6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Amore]

Thanks for the help man I might try some of those.

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

Amore why dont u just tag AMORE...its a good name for the spanish AMOR...

or jus take the first to letter of ur first and last name ...?

[jerm_haf]

i like those bankz, i dont like how the lines go so far down on the 2nd and 3rd though

i agree. dont like the xtra long lines on 2 and 3. Thanks for the advice on my tag too.

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

thx for the crits jetpack..but what does yours say ?

im thinkin TAMS ?

[JETPACK!!]

Tamk, yeah that does kinna look like an S now that i look at it

[Engine.357]

Speaking of the whole SEiZE thing is Engine taken I've been writing it for 5 years but I've never gone anywhere except 50mm so I wouldn't know.

I hope not Engine's a childhood nickname for being a motormouth :D

[MESN[905]]

theres a dope engine in the 905/416 area

http://iloveletters.ca/FREIGHTS/Photos/_UDFreightSeries4/engine_F1.jpg
http://iloveletters.ca/BOMBS/images/Photos/engine_B1.jpg
http://iloveletters.ca/BOMBS/images/Photos/engine_B3.jpg
http://iloveletters.ca/BOMBS/images/Photos/_UD021207/engine_B5.jpg

but ur prolly mad far away anyways so just write it

[geneparmesan]

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m227/kutemupkustoms/wb2.jpg
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m227/kutemupkustoms/wb8.jpg
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m227/kutemupkustoms/wb77.jpg
the unexpected drip on the arrow, makes it look like.....garbage.

[m.ziggy]

amore is from like cali, seize is from vermont, its not going to matter if they write the samething. chances are someone in the world is writing the same name as you.....

[Engine.357]

Im a 310 Los Angeles kid so I'll keep writing it, I ain't gonna get famous any how

New tag from my Blackbook (full pic in toy BB section)

Crits? and don't comment the halo I know no one likes it and it's the last time I'm writing it.

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x182/christian_tg/CIMG0538.jpg

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

video of my handstlye i was bored...it came out bum becuase its hard holding a camera and writeing because you cant really hold down the paper..


http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/diplomat123/th_CLIP0482.jpg (http://s11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/diplomat123/?action=view&current=CLIP0482.flv)

[geneparmesan]

dont know if youre welcoming crits on that video but,
work on that hand a little bit.
the first arrow you did, the one you did as soon as you put that marker to the paper, makes it look...hideous, in my opinion. well not hideous, but its unnecessary.

[JETPACK!!]

gene, work on it and see how it would look if you angled the letters a bit
engn, it looks good, lose the halo like you said and the thing on the left side, the number, and get a better arrow imo

banks, thats a good song you were playing in that movie, got me listenin to it

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/5493/tamkhandsteeze2di7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Engine.357]

dont know if youre welcoming crits on that video but,
work on that hand a little bit.
the first arrow you did, the one you did as soon as you put that marker to the paper, makes it look...hideous, in my opinion. well not hideous, but its unnecessary.

Actually I disagree, I'm pretty toy when it comes to handstyles but I like his flow i think the arrows look clean

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

dont know if youre welcoming crits on that video but,
work on that hand a little bit.
the first arrow you did, the one you did as soon as you put that marker to the paper, makes it look...hideous, in my opinion. well not hideous, but its unnecessary.


na its not that my hand is good its jus i had to hodl the camera while i was doin it ...so i couldent use my left had to hodl the paper down...

[Engine.357]

Yeah I could use a better arrow and I am dropping the Halo but 357 has to stay because in about a month I'm starting a clothing company called ".357" and I gotta advertise it... Heres some of my designs if you guys wanna crit those

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x182/christian_tg/1copy.jpg
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x182/christian_tg/2copy.jpg
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x182/christian_tg/shirt3.gif
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x182/christian_tg/shirt2.gif
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x182/christian_tg/shirt1.gif

[JETPACK!!]

no offence, but those are kinna wack. dont you think you should get better with writing then start one up

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

holy shit you really are starting a clothin line..if you send me some shirt..id gladly rock em when i go out to clubs..mad *****sz be on my steez like where u cop it at son

the gun and the last one im diggin for sureee

[Engine.357]

Its not a graffiti clothing company so i dont need to be good at writing to start one imo Im more of a graphic designer than a tagger... graff is just a hobby

and none of them even have graffiti on them except maybe the purple but not really

but I am willing to still take crits though

I do got people who want to buy some already just need to find a place that doesnt print shitty

[JETPACK!!]

oh word, by all means go ahead. that was just my opinion

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

launch it become big...take over sean john....LMAO...

[m.ziggy]

just a suggestion.....dont write the samething that is going to be on your shirts. if cops see your tag around town then find out your a clothing company your going to get busted

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

not nessisarily...CLAW still bombs and she has a clothing line ..

[m.ziggy]

with the same name? i would have thought the cops would figure that out. engine you screen printing those?

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

CLAW dosent tAG A CLAW..she litterally tags a claw..and her clothing line is that same exact claw she tags...

[harry]

yea read the post above your seize by some guy in new hampshire

and SiEZE is taken by some guy where i live

how bout u try these i used to rock these

Shock1
turok
ZION 1
Snotz
Rezr

no go zion one is mii know its taken by some guy in canada but fuck that he lives in canada i love in australia

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

ohh yea by the bombshelter guy

[m.ziggy]

oh word

back to tags
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h239/kase121/Photo228.jpg

critics, suggestions please, i need them bad

[Engine.357]

Yeah My homie is putting down the money for the first batch cause I'm broke so he picks one of the 5 once he decides were gonna find a place that screenprints for a decent price yet doesn't have prints that fade

good point about the 357 on my clothes and my pieces.. however unless a cop sees me spraying/writing it he cant cop me for wearing a shirt that says 357 on it when other people are wearing it. I'll just wont put 357 in my bombs where its easier to get caught.

anyways back to tags...


oh word

back to tags
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h239/kase121/Photo228.jpg

critics, suggestions please, i need them bad

IDK why but I love the S no matter how simple it is

Maybe you should throw something on it to pull the whole thing of like and underline with a dash in it -----||----- or some arrows pointing to where you live STH WST EST etc.

for example i live on the west coast in Southside Los Angeles so my arrow go left for westside then points down for south LA
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x182/christian_tg/CIMG0538.jpg

PS anymore crits on this tag?

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

due it dont matter if you do it..claw does it all the time...and her clothing line is already big n shit

[m.ziggy]

Yeah My homie is putting down the money for the first batch cause I'm broke so he picks one of the 5 once he decides were gonna find a place that screenprints for a decent price yet doesn't have prints that fade

good point about the 357 on my clothes and my pieces.. however unless a cop sees me spraying/writing it he cant cop me for wearing a shirt that says 357 on it when other people are wearing it. I'll just wont put 357 in my bombs where its easier to get caught.

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x182/christian_tg/CIMG0538.jpg

PS anymore crits on this tag?

my boy got a screen printing press thing and we cant figure out how to use it.....haha

i like your tag for the most part, feeling the e, its a simple e but i like it

[Jelllo]

1. http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/9804/newstaincy4.th.jpg
2. http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/4545/newstain2mc1.th.jpg
Crits????

[m.ziggy]

oh word

back to tags
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h239/kase121/Photo228.jpg

critics, suggestions please, i need them bad

bump to a new page

[six6six]

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x182/christian_tg/CIMG0538.jpg

PS anymore crits on this tag?[/QUOTE]

to me it looks like ENGW
try to make the 'N's a little more similar



http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb290/raoulduke666/spetsnaz-1.jpg
crits on this?

[H3TT1NG3R]

^spetsnaz? as in the gun? lol but anyway try not to do cursive with the pets in spets

[JETPACK!!]

gene, work on it and see how it would look if you angled the letters a bit
engn, it looks good, lose the halo like you said and the thing on the left side, the number, and get a better arrow imo

banks, thats a good song you were playing in that movie, got me listenin to it

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/5493/tamkhandsteeze2di7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

bump, no crits.

spetsnaz, i like your S' but i agree with the above post, dont make it look so cursive with the p-e-t

[SAID]

work on that m, it looks kinda stiff

[Cin123]

1. http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/9804/newstaincy4.th.jpg
2. http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/4545/newstain2mc1.th.jpg
Crits????
wrong section
dont outline ur tag
and lol gget some better stickees
ENGW-i like the E and the G try 2 make the N and the W more like the E and the G try 2 base ur tag on those 2 get some style

STAY UP!

[JETPACK!!]

theres nothing wrong with outlining your handsteeze, it adds mad flava yo.. although thats not the greatest example of how to outline though

[geneparmesan]

holy shit you really are starting a clothin line..if you send me some shirt..id gladly rock em when i go out to clubs..mad *****sz be on my steez like where u cop it at son

the gun and the last one im diggin for sureee


starting a clothing company is VERY hard. its not just printing up shirts & selling them. but theres websites that you can put designs on shirts on the site. nothing amazing.

[jerm_haf]

spetsnaz, i like the s and try and cut out the cursive. not feeling the hkc either

[boomboombox]

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x182/christian_tg/CIMG0538.jpg

PS anymore crits on this tag?

to me it looks like ENGW
try to make the 'N's a little more similar



http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb290/raoulduke666/spetsnaz-1.jpg
crits on this?[/QUOTE]

It looks nice and simple.

[Engine.357]

starting a clothing company is VERY hard. its not just printing up shirts & selling them. but theres websites that you can put designs on shirts on the site. nothing amazing.

Yeah a clothing company is no easy task and I'm not trying to start a major one I'm just doing it to make pocket change in my hometown... I only plan to sell to kids locally. No plans for a website or anything like that unless it gets popular which I doubt it will.

Anyways... New Tag

I made it in Adobe illustrator so I can manipulate the shapes of the strokes until I felt I got it just right. I dropped the halo like everyone said and instead added a star and I also changed the N to look less like a W while still keeping a stroke design on the end.

Crits?

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x182/christian_tg/Scribe.png

[JETPACK!!]

thats look good, but something is just too much, i think it may be the star at the left, but im not sure

[SAID]

seem nice.
id take off your underline though, looks wack.
fix your star too.
your n looks exactly like wasters 12

[Engine.357]

Spetz...

Stay away from cursive when doing tags, sometimes connecting certain letters looks cool but when you connect all of them it looks dull

[Engine.357]

seem nice.
id take off your underline though, looks wack.
fix your star too.
your n looks exactly like wasters 12

Haha yeah it does look kinda like a twelve... What kind of changes do you suggest for the star?

[SAID]

i always do the same mistake as you..
the middle part comming from the left is going downwards..
try and make it go straight and abit on an angle upwards.
tell me if you get it, if not ill draw it up for you

[Juicee]

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y170/WishesforWiggles/wof.jpg

Crits?

[Engine.357]

...if not ill draw it up for you

Would you? I don't really get what your saying?

[Engine.357]

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y170/WishesforWiggles/wof.jpg

Crits?

I really like the one with the dried out chisel tip it looks really clean. Everyone always tells me to drop my Halo's but I like them and it looks good on yours. Maybe you should just put more detail on your last R if you want to keep it simple try getting more steez or try an uppercase R

[Juicee]

I really like the one with the dried out chisel tip it looks really clean. Everyone always tells me to drop my Halo's but I like them and it looks good on yours. Maybe you should just put more detail on your last R if you want to keep it simple try getting more steez or try an uppercase R


Thanks for tha bro
i think ima try tha uppercase R like u said, but every time i try to do one it comes out lookin like a B :/ but its all about practice so ima work on it

yo that shit u did on illustrator is freshh
the style is madd original 2 me cus i ain never seen that before looks dopee
i think next time tho it wud look better if u put the star closer

[Hazex]

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/4600/picture112ij6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

LOving that shit juicee

[SAID]

Would you? I don't really get what your saying?
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/2281/starjl6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
your is going down, try and make it going up abit.

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

does any one know why the fuck i cant see any picutres..not even your icons...

[Engine.357]

Thanks for tha bro
i think ima try tha uppercase R like u said, but every time i try to do one it comes out lookin like a B :/ but its all about practice so ima work on it

yo that shit u did on illustrator is freshh
the style is madd original 2 me cus i ain never seen that before looks dopee
i think next time tho it wud look better if u put the star closer

I was just gonna draw you an R to work off of but I decided to do the whole thing:

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x182/christian_tg/sober.png


http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/2281/starjl6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
your is going down, try and make it going up abit.

Ill work on it in a bit i still want the curvy center line but I'll see how it looks with your suggestion maybe ill reverse it like a mirror and put it on the end so it does what you say

[Amore]

amore is from like cali, seize is from vermont, its not going to matter if they write the samething. chances are someone in the world is writing the same name as you.....

Yeah Im from Sac and I dont know of anyone around here that writes it, plus somebody, somewhere is bound to write the same thing as you. I just really feel comfortable with that name, but I will try out some other stuff..

[Juicee]

I was just gonna draw you an R to work off of but I decided to do the whole thing:

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x182/christian_tg/sober.png



looks dope, course it's my name so no matter how anyone writes it always gon look freshh =P lol jk,
but for real, thanks, its always nice to have an example so i can branch my own style

[-Saiko-]

trap-i'd make the N more legible, the A and S are nice, but i can't make out the E at all. So do a little cleaning and it should look nice.
BUMP FOR CRIT

AHEM, all the letters are like standard alphabetical, there is no style in this tag, they are all evenly spaced out and in the same font. I bet if i had a ruler i could measure like a perfect cm between each one of em.

Let ur hand flow free, looks like ur all tight n shit

[Engine.357]

Yeah Im from Sac and I dont know of anyone around here that writes it, plus somebody, somewhere is bound to write the same thing as you. I just really feel comfortable with that name, but I will try out some other stuff..

Whats wrong with Amor or Amore? do you have a nickname from your homies? My nickname is The Engine so I tag ENGN

[SAID]

engine look up in the page, i drew up what i meant for your star ahaha

[Engine.357]

engine look up in the page, i drew up what i meant for your star ahaha

I'm still reworking it in illustrator right now i even changed my N's to look less like a 12 ill post it when I'm done

looks more like this now

|-| /
| | /
\ |/

[Techkanuck]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b159/civichatch2005/Picture156.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b159/civichatch2005/Picture155.jpg

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

^^^ you need so much work man...the clown character and the A are lookin good though

[Engine.357]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b159/civichatch2005/Picture156.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b159/civichatch2005/Picture155.jpg

just gotta practice thats all... dont outline tags and scribes it doesn't look right only outline bombs

Clown looks sick

[MsRubl]

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a329/dragonlw12/graff008.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a329/dragonlw12/graff007.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a329/dragonlw12/graff006.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a329/dragonlw12/graff005.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a329/dragonlw12/graff003.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a329/dragonlw12/graff002.jpg

those are from when i wrote digital, obviously, but i decided it was too long and changed to ms rubl

<3

haha this is my first post

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

idk why felt like doin ut tag...i didnt try and mke it look sick..jus randomly did em lol

http://i26.tinypic.com/122dx7t.jpg

[MsRubl]

lol shit, just realized this is for tags
sorry about that

[Engine.357]

Reworked it again...

I kept the original star for the first, the suggested star for the second and a heart for the third.

EDIT: Added an Anarchy and peace tag

Take your pick, or make suggestions to the letters.

TFS stands for Three Five Seven... so don't ask

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x182/christian_tg/scribe2-1.png

[DonQ]

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a122/jgully78/f2329bd7.jpg

[SAID]

looking dope engn.
id take off your underline, and its gonna look fucken SICKK.
DonQ,
get the fuck out.

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

those were done on computer right ?

[Engine.357]

Yeah I like to start on the computer before i use a Marker so i can manipulate the strokes easier instead of writing it over and over wasting paper or blackbook space once I get a Sick one I'll hit it up with a marker for you guys.

Anyways... You said Drop the underline so here's the comparison... I kind of like the line,
Opinions?

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x182/christian_tg/scribe3.png

[SAID]

i liek it better without the line :p
id also take out the quotations on the right.
thats just me though man, we all have our prefrences.

[Engine.357]

i liek it better without the line :p
id also take out the quotations on the right.
thats just me though man, we all have our prefrences.

Yeah alot of people do... I have to make a desicion, IMO I should choose the stars hearts and underlines as an artist, so what do you guys think about the letters themselves?

[m.ziggy]

i like it a lot engine, want to do a handie exchange

[Engine.357]

i like it a lot engine, want to do a handie exchange

sure whats your tag? Do you want me to do it on the computer or on paper? and if you do mine do ENGINE, ENGN, or 357

PS thanks for the crits guys in 3 days I went from this:

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x182/christian_tg/tagster.png

To This:

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x182/christian_tg/scribe4.png

Once my slaps come in the mail I'll be hitting it up in Hawthorne (South LA)

[m.ziggy]

setoke, soke, computer is fine. are you using a tablet? i try doing that but it comes out so shaky, yours are mad clean. do you have a trick or is it just a steady hand?

[Engine.357]

setoke, soke, computer is fine. are you using a tablet? i try doing that but it comes out so shaky, yours are mad clean. do you have a trick or is it just a steady hand?

I use the Bezier Pen Tool in Adobe Illustrator It's for people who don't have a tablet and have a shaky mouse hand.

It's hard to explain but this will give you an idea:

http://www.melissaclifton.com/tutorial-pentool.html

I gotta go take a shower and get ready for church and I'll hit it up tonight afterwards or if i can find time before we leave... Look forward to seeing mine

[geneparmesan]

gene, work on it and see how it would look if you angled the letters a bit
engn, it looks good, lose the halo like you said and the thing on the left side, the number, and get a better arrow imo

banks, thats a good song you were playing in that movie, got me listenin to it

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/5493/tamkhandsteeze2di7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)




ok ok ok..so youre telling me....to..."angle" my letters a little bit...
when....you came with..............that^?
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m227/kutemupkustoms/wb77.jpg
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m227/kutemupkustoms/wb8.jpg
not trying to start any shit or anything like that, but i think my hand has alot more flow to it than Tams or Tamk or whatever it says. but, ill give it a try, just for shits & giggles and see how it comes out. never know, you might be on to something.

[-Panik-]

I just wanna get some thoughts and tell me what you think before I go slapping this around
I know, the * under the I is a little messy but I can make a new sticker:P
also I tried it out with the shading again
Crit please
also I am accepting any ideas for a new P or a new style in general

--
Engine I'm really feeling your tag it's so fucking sick with the crown n star, you have made so much improvement in the last couple days I'm actually thinking of ordering one of ur shirts when you make your clothing line
good fucking job man

[m.ziggy]

panik im not really feeling it, maybe space out the letters alittle, not much though. i dont think the p fits with the other letters

[-Panik-]

Ya I really need assistance with the 'P' XD haha
haha I'm loosing the underline until I find a suitable style
but I can't find a p that fits
lol

[geneparmesan]

bored, so i figured id do a basic hand for you panik, i guess work off this or do whatever with it, nothing amazing.

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m227/kutemupkustoms/boredsodontpanik.jpg

edit;
heres a hand, like how i do mine. yes, the loops arent all the same size, but you get the gist of it.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m227/kutemupkustoms/itsastuckupdontpanik.jpg

[m.ziggy]

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h239/kase121/panic.jpg

shittt i spelled it wrong, im not great at handies but i figured i would try

[-Panik-]

k thanks alot guys This is really helpin me
:D

[geneparmesan]

well, since its helpin you
LETS SEE HOW YOUVE PROGRESSED.
NOW.

[Techkanuck]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b159/civichatch2005/Picture162.jpg

[Engine.357]

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x182/christian_tg/soke.png

Here you go homie, If you want a throwie or a bomb hit me up again

Can't wait to see mine :)

[geneparmesan]

ill do a name exchange with someone, even though this isnt the thread for it, since we're on the topic.

hit me up.

[m.ziggy]

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h239/kase121/engine.jpg
eh

engine i love yours man, thanks

gene i will hit you up, what do you write? im going to post it in the exchange thread though so i dont piss off the mods

[BohemianBastard]

http://i31.tinypic.com/2qdvc52.jpg
fucked up A, i usually put a u :(

[-Panik-]

http://i28.tinypic.com/2l9o3ds.jpg
I got a new P
I am losing the Underline don't worry
I just wanted to try it once more
crits(don't mention the underline)

[m.ziggy]

the p still doesnt fit, everything has pointy ends except for that and i dont really like how the n goes into the k

[m.ziggy]

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h239/kase121/engine.jpg
eh

engine i love yours man, thanks

gene i will hit you up, what do you write? im going to post it in the exchange thread though so i dont piss off the mods

bump to a new page, critics please

[-Panik-]

Agreed about the n and k
was the P a complete failure,
or did i atleast fit it a bit more than the old one?(just so i know if I'm making progress)

[-Panik-]

Steady hand is all the tag really needs
good job for someone elses tag tho (Y)

[m.ziggy]

the p is getting better, mess around with the top part of it. i suck at handies so im not really sure but thats what i would do

[-Panik-]

thanks I'll try
btw, do you have any throws posted or anything?
just wondering

[m.ziggy]

yea i was doing that on a tablet that im not use to, i have a few simples and shit, not so many throws im not that great at them

[geneparmesan]

ziggymannnnnnnnnnn, i write Sure/Sureshot.
what about you? ill post mine in the exchange thread too. haha.

some hands i did on one of my cigar boxes.
Rey del rey fo' liiiiiiiiiiife.

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m227/kutemupkustoms/cubanlinxxx2.jpg
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m227/kutemupkustoms/cubanlinxxx.jpg
my bad for the huge drip in the middle, haha.
it looks wack as hell cause of all the drips.

[m.ziggy]

hahaha i got my username from my cat ziggy and i call him ziggyman too....funny....

i write setoke/soke

[geneparmesan]

good shit, haha. aight, gimme like 10 minutes, and itll be up.
if you got aim, hit me up, we'll do another battle or something.
my aim thing should be in my user profile.

[Hazex]

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/4600/picture112ij6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

LOving that shit juicee

Bump can i have some crits?

[-Panik-]

dude sick style,
I prefer the top one,
I can't read the s tho, love the rest

[geneparmesan]

is it me..or is the S sideways?....straighten that S up...and try usin a capital A, that R is bump though. especially the one on the top.

[Thrice]

not able to expand it hazex, but from what i see it looks pretty good, but im not feeling the extension off the K, or at least the path of it.
Which do you guys like?
http://i31.tinypic.com/2z854cx.jpg

[-Panik-]

oh damn, the s is sideways, haha no wonder it looked odd

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

lol AHEM....hats preety funny tag..

[m.ziggy]

i think you have the simple flow now, start playing around with the letters more

[-Panik-]

Thrice I'm really likin number 5, but I still think you could do a little extra with the M
and do you think if I curved the path to the K in more it would start to come together a bit better?

[Thrice]

Ya im in the process of adding style slowly while maintaining strong flow and structure. I tend to get carried away. bankz, the tag itself is funny or what i write?

[geneparmesan]

yeah, work off of number 5.


panik-try not even connecting any letters at all, just add a little flow to them, you just gotta play around with each letter. try and even write the letter a different way than you normally do. like write your A a different way(example; if you start your A's from the left leg, start from the right leg & see how it comes out.), if you get what im saying. just gotta fuck around. you'll come across something new with each letter.

[-Panik-]

thanks man I'll try it out

[Mr yarbles]

http://i31.tinypic.com/2e4gd4g.jpg

http://i32.tinypic.com/10pvoqu.jpg

Tried to straighten up the first one and used a new E and It looks squished cus I was using a piece of paper.

Says TESONE
Crits?

[geneparmesan]

panik, youre one of the few people on here, ive seen, that take crits in a good way, and actually try to develop your style off of what other experienced writers give you advice on.


tes-make your O and your N next to each other instead of on top. your E in ONE is bump though. so is your other E & your S.

[m.ziggy]

yeah, work off of number 5.


panik-try not even connecting any letters at all, just add a little flow to them, you just gotta play around with each letter. try and even write the letter a different way than you normally do. like write your A a different way(example; if you start your A's from the left leg, start from the right leg & see how it comes out.), if you get what im saying. just gotta fuck around. you'll come across something new with each letter.

thats good advice man, im getting yours up in a minute

[Mr yarbles]

tes-make your O and your N next to each other instead of on top. your E in ONE is bump though. so is your other E & your S.


http://i29.tinypic.com/30i7sw4.jpg
I tried moving the n next to the o in that one any better?
and probably sounds dumb but what do you mean by bump?

[-Panik-]

http://i27.tinypic.com/5n4tgn.jpg
I tried a halo around the down arrow under the I,
haha as oyu can see I failed
I won't do the thing I did with the N and the K anymore cas I don't like how it looks
-- New p? good/bad
(btw thanks gene i find my A is a little more defined from your hint)
Crits

[-Panik-]

wow, sorry for double posting but that looks brutal.
my pencil sketch was much better i dragged my marker to much

[m.ziggy]

old.....

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h239/kase121/movie.jpg

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h239/kase121/srxr.jpg

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h239/kase121/liho.jpg

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h239/kase121/liho3.jpg

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h239/kase121/liho2.jpg

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h239/kase121/church.jpg

haha mine are sooo shitty

[Thrice]

Not huge with the T, and i'd lose that N and K overlap on the top of the I. At least take away the N's extension.
Crits please
http://i32.tinypic.com/k3rxoo.jpg

[-Panik-]

Mid right is look fucken chill man
and yea I don't even know why I overlapped it:P
haha but it's a P
haha keep workin ur flow man it's getting soo sick

[Mr yarbles]

Panik your p's getting there but it looks too much like a T everything else is nice though

[-Panik-]

should I lose the halo completely or tidy it up?

[m.ziggy]

http://i27.tinypic.com/5n4tgn.jpg


http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h239/kase121/Untitled-3.jpg

curve it down alittle like that ^^^ your getting there, keep playing with it

[-Panik-]

alright thanks alot man :D

[-Panik-]

http://i26.tinypic.com/30b0ols.jpg
This is what I came out with,
under the underline it says 705, my area code it would look neater but I wrote this kinda small
any final crits before I hit the hay XD

[m.ziggy]

its better but i would still point it down alittle more. make the top right side longer then the bottom right side

[-Panik-]

haha is anything else messed up or do i got the other letters worked out fine?
and should I ditch any of the accessories?

[m.ziggy]

they are aright other then the halo. write your tag over and over, each time you write it you will get better and better

[-Panik-]

I didn't like the halo either:P
and alright thank you for your all day advice:P haha
peace man

[Thrice]

Not huge with the T, and i'd lose that N and K overlap on the top of the I. At least take away the N's extension.
Crits please
http://i32.tinypic.com/k3rxoo.jpg

BUMP
Panik-personally i think you should add accessories last, that way you can concentrate on structure, flow and style.

[m.ziggy]

i like the top right one, the a is fire

[Sewn]

Yeah I'd go with top right too


Crits on mine?
Oh and don't worry I didn't actually "tag" this up, it's on a wall on the side of my friends porch that he was knocking down at the time so i figured perfect time to practice on something other than paper/wood/cardboard

http://i28.tinypic.com/fasfa8.jpg
http://i25.tinypic.com/15e8g35.jpg

[BZAR]

thrice- top right with bottom right m

[Thrice]

thanks guys for the crit, i'll keep practicing it.
CCWN-id lose the extension on the bottom of the Cs. Also is that what you write, or a crew or something? As a graffiti name, im not seeing too much flow from it.

[m.ziggy]

sewn its not bad butkeep plying with it to get some flow

[geneparmesan]

haha...thrice...it says Sewn...

sewn-dont make your S & your E look so much alike.

[The_NaMEz_BaNKz]

Yeah I'd go with top right too


Crits on mine?
Oh and don't worry I didn't actually "tag" this up, it's on a wall on the side of my friends porch that he was knocking down at the time so i figured perfect time to practice on something other than paper/wood/cardboard

http://i28.tinypic.com/fasfa8.jpg
http://i25.tinypic.com/15e8g35.jpg

lol speaking ofyour name SEWN..

theres this kid around where i live that tags REWN..as in he ruins shit...

[jerm_haf]

Yeah I'd go with top right too


Crits on mine?
Oh and don't worry I didn't actually "tag" this up, it's on a wall on the side of my friends porch that he was knocking down at the time so i figured perfect time to practice on something other than paper/wood/cardboard

http://i28.tinypic.com/fasfa8.jpg
http://i25.tinypic.com/15e8g35.jpg

ur E kinda looks like a CL, but it's pretty good otherwise

[Rogue]

A one-liner would be dope for your name Sewn....

Just gotta make those letters more rounded

[Sewn]

Thanks guys, I'll keep working on it. I just don't know what to do with the W and N.
And I'll try to change up the E

[Engine.357]

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x182/christian_tg/PANIK.png

I was bored here you go... Maybe I'll hit up a Ahem and Sewn if I feel like it later :D

[Techkanuck]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b159/civichatch2005/Picture166.jpg

still lookin really weak, I'm still needing some direction for the V, and i need to buy a new marker. Any recomendations to get some nice crisp edges but a hot ass rounded chisel tip style.

[Engine.357]

Here you go guys...

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x182/christian_tg/vas.png