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Scott
07-30-2005, 02:26 PM
I was charged with mischief under $5000.00 last night. Although I am fairly certain that the charge isn't particularily serious, I was wondering how easy it would be for a court-appointed lawyer to get me out of having a criminal record. I know of two people who got out of getting one and only had to do 25 hours of community service, but they hired a lawyer and paid around $500. Since I don't have that kind of money, I am looking for some writer's legal advice.
Not trying to be annoying, but any help would be vastly appreciated. Some of you had to have been fucked over in the same way.
resonatx
07-30-2005, 02:34 PM
ive gotten arrestd 3times, i say stick with the court appointed lawyer, theyve gotten me out of 2 things and reduced the sentance on one, it was a 3rd degree felony , and it got reduced to a class C misdimor and served 6montsh probation and 20hrs of community service.
what was yer charge, misdiminor or felony?
scrabble
07-30-2005, 02:37 PM
well you know your fucked when your turning to bombing science for legal advice!
you might be able to make gay little deals and get a few hours of community service probly 50 or less hours.
InvisblSkratchPiklz
07-30-2005, 02:47 PM
fuck lawyers, represent yourself!
dont let others talk for you! That's what your mouth is for
Car2nist
07-30-2005, 03:05 PM
i was busted with 10 pounds of high grade marijuana and charged with distribution
but it was all for me and i showed them how much i smoke a day
charges dropped and they stole my herb :o
ha
joust
07-30-2005, 03:52 PM
lol 10 lbs
Adamo
07-30-2005, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by Car2nist@Jul 30 2005, 03:05 PM
i was busted with 10 pounds of high grade marijuana and charged with distribution
but it was all for me and i showed them how much i smoke a day
charges dropped and they stole my herb :o
ha
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-11/875903/smells_like_bullshit.jpg
Car2nist
07-30-2005, 03:57 PM
DUH! if they took 10 pounds of chronic from me, i'd be in jail cause id shoot them.
The Incredible D
07-30-2005, 04:31 PM
what do you say when a truckload of lawyers drives off a cliff?
a miracle.
i think its worth it to pay the 500, even if you dont got it, to pay for a lawyer. its worth losing 500 for not having a criminal record.
drugaddict
07-30-2005, 05:03 PM
i got charged with the same thing and only got 6 months of slack probation.
but still.. i have a criminal record.
I'm gangstahhh
CaSoNe
07-30-2005, 05:25 PM
my court appointed laywer got my charges lowered to a "violation of the penal code" whatever that means haha...but basically i have no criminal record but i still had to pay for damages and shit
Scott
07-30-2005, 05:33 PM
Originally posted by CaSoNe@Jul 30 2005, 05:25 PM
my court appointed laywer got my charges lowered to a "violation of the penal code" whatever that means haha...but basically i have no criminal record but i still had to pay for damages and shit
Where do you live?
How much did you have to pay?
CaSoNe
07-30-2005, 05:49 PM
i live in ny and im looking at a 632 dollar fine and possible community service
Version 2.0
07-30-2005, 06:11 PM
Originally posted by Alchohlics_Anonymous@Jul 30 2005, 05:43 PM
get a lawyer def. try and get the money somehow. loan maybe?
"Okay sir, and why would you like a loan?"
"To pay off my criminal fines."
"Have a nice day."
pSYKAOz
07-30-2005, 06:17 PM
hahaha...
but neways dont yall have freebie lawyers in youre area? like for the poor people? most countries have jurisdblafnh;aljhn aid for people who can prove that they cant afford a lawyer...
thats what im using currently.. they suck and u always get youre lawyer changed around but hey.. its free "PP
CaSoNe
07-30-2005, 07:07 PM
QUOTE (Alchohlics_Anonymous @ Jul 30 2005, 05:43 PM)
get a lawyer def. try and get the money somehow. loan maybe?
"Okay sir, and why would you like a loan?"
"To pay off my criminal fines."
"Have a nice day."
======================================
haha this reminds me when i was in las vegas and they had these places with big light up signs that said "BAIL LOANS" or some shit like that....i think they were for hookers or something ahhaha
Originally posted by CaSoNe@Jul 30 2005, 04:07 PM
haha this reminds me when i was in las vegas and they had these places with big light up signs that said "BAIL LOANS" or some shit like that....i think they were for hookers or something ahhaha
bail bonds...not for hookers...unless they go to jail
you know...like dog the bountry hunter and "dakine bail bonds"
http://entertainmentworld.us/GMX/gallery/Contest/Dog/hi_res11180308_7.jpg
InvisblSkratchPiklz
07-30-2005, 07:27 PM
tony got charged on feline molestation
turns out he likes more then one kind of pussy
@Waster, that's why you have so many fines, you depend on L'aide Juridique (thats what legal aid is) they're a bunch of fuck up's that dont even care bout your situation!
When i got charged with assault, i didnt even bother going to get a lawyer, i showed up to court, represented myself
got off with 1yr probation
like i said before and i ll say it again
we were given MOUTH'S, they are intended to be used!
USE THE FUCKIN THINGS
dont depend on some fuckin lawyer!
R-E-P-R-E-S-E-N-T YOURSELF
doesnt take a fuckin rocket scientist to know that
fiction
07-31-2005, 01:05 AM
Originally posted by The Incredible D@Jul 30 2005, 04:31 PM
what do you say when a truckload of lawyers drives off a cliff?
a miracle.
i think its worth it to pay the 500, even if you dont got it, to pay for a lawyer. its worth losing 500 for not having a criminal record.
i think its worth it to pay the 500, even if you dont got it
that has got to be the most INTELGENT thing i've ever heard.
arckes
07-31-2005, 01:09 AM
yah.. but if u dont knoe how 2 talk to the judge u might also do jail time..
Nazel
07-31-2005, 01:11 AM
Originally posted by Scott@Jul 30 2005, 02:26 PM
I was charged with mischief under $5000.00 last night. Although I am fairly certain that the charge isn't particularily serious, I was wondering how easy it would be for a court-appointed lawyer to get me out of having a criminal record. I know of two people who got out of getting one and only had to do 25 hours of community service, but they hired a lawyer and paid around $500. Since I don't have that kind of money, I am looking for some writer's legal advice.
Not trying to be annoying, but any help would be vastly appreciated. Some of you had to have been fucked over in the same way.
what did u do......
InvisblSkratchPiklz
07-31-2005, 06:23 AM
Originally posted by arckes@Jul 31 2005, 01:09 AM
yah.. but if u dont knoe how 2 talk to the judge u might also do jail time..
then i suggest you watch Judge Mathis and Judge Judy for practice :lol:
spare
07-31-2005, 08:09 AM
Originally posted by Nazel+Jul 31 2005, 01:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Nazel @ Jul 31 2005, 01:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Scott@Jul 30 2005, 02:26 PM
I was charged with mischief under $5000.00 last night. Although I am fairly certain that the charge isn't particularily serious, I was wondering how easy it would be for a court-appointed lawyer to get me out of having a criminal record. I know of two people who got out of getting one and only had to do 25 hours of community service, but they hired a lawyer and paid around $500. Since I don't have that kind of money, I am looking for some writer's legal advice.
Not trying to be annoying, but any help would be vastly appreciated. Some of you had to have been fucked over in the same way.
what did u do...... [/b][/quote]
what the hell do you think he did
Originally posted by InvisblSkratchPiklz@Jul 30 2005, 07:27 PM
tony got charged on feline molestation
turns out he likes more then one kind of pussy
@Waster, that's why you have so many fines, you depend on L'aide Juridique (thats what legal aid is) they're a bunch of fuck up's that dont even care bout your situation!
When i got charged with assault, i didnt even bother going to get a lawyer, i showed up to court, represented myself
got off with 1yr probation
like i said before and i ll say it again
we were given MOUTH'S, they are intended to be used!
USE THE FUCKIN THINGS
dont depend on some fuckin lawyer!
R-E-P-R-E-S-E-N-T YOURSELF
doesnt take a fuckin rocket scientist to know that
Not everyone can express themselves coherently in court.. let alone in everyday life...
And those damn lawyers gotta make a living SOMEHOW!
You don't want the lawyers to starve, do you?
InvisblSkratchPiklz
07-31-2005, 10:28 AM
i do :)
and i just re-read what this guy said, he is trying to avoid a criminal record!
Thing is. he got charged with criminal mischief, so its for sure its going into your criminal record UNLESS you're under 18, then when you reach 18 your recent criminal run-ins are erased, but if you're older then 18 well you have to wait and ask for a pardon!
i dont know if in the states its 18 or 21
but here in quebec its 18!
i had 8 charges when i was under 18
and when i turned 18 my record was erased
but if you feel like you can be cool and calm in the court room, I suggest reppin yourself!
i knwo this guy, he's reasonably smart and shouldnt have any trouble by himself in court with a charge like this...
m ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,;./''''''''''''''''''''
thats from my cat......he's telling whoa to keep our love secrete
InvisblSkratchPiklz
07-31-2005, 01:40 PM
your cat knows well :wub:
VERMONT
08-01-2005, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by InvisblSkratchPiklz@Jul 31 2005, 10:28 AM
and i just re-read what this guy said, he is trying to avoid a criminal record!
Thing is. he got charged with criminal mischief, so its for sure its going into your criminal record UNLESS you're under 18, then when you reach 18 your recent criminal run-ins are erased, but if you're older then 18 well you have to wait and ask for a pardon!
i dont know if in the states its 18 or 21
does anyone know if it's eighteen or twenty-one?... and can they use previous arrests on your sealed criminal record after you turn that age as evidence against you if you're, say, being snitched on?
GLOKnine
08-01-2005, 11:04 PM
just go with any lawyer... if its your first charge then your fine... and if your a minor then you cna get your record sealed.. im on probation right now for graffiti. since i have 2 other charges on my record i got a year of probation and 120hrs of community service..
but if its your first charge then your fine... you should be able to get it dropped down to a class b misdemeinor (how ever you spell it)
Highfiver
08-01-2005, 11:22 PM
Assualt on an Officer.
Theft.
Vandalism.
All in a days work.
I am a fiesty little girl.
:ph34r:
Malicious artist
11-25-2006, 03:20 AM
i got theft under 5000, civic court meaning i dont have to go. Um it sucks theres no differnence getting caught taking 1 dolla thing and 4999.. uhh
dUb-cHi
11-25-2006, 04:17 PM
2 counts of evading arrest or whatever just cuz i tried to run didnt get shit cuz imma minor exce[t my firts 2 cans taken away
domesticated
11-25-2006, 04:31 PM
I have one criminal charge, and that is for theft and destruction of private property in the third degree. I took my school's flag and lit it on fire in the parking lot. The total of the damage was $7.83, but I got 24 hours community service and six months probation on principle of being un-American. This was when I was 17, I am 23 now. Clean ever since...well, my record that is, I just learned to get away with shit. Remember kiddies, paranoia can be your best friend, or worst enemy. If you think the guy on the cell phone is looking at you, he is probably a cop, lol, just kidding.
Oink.
11-25-2006, 04:37 PM
verble assult long story got off cause cmon im 16 haha
"graffiit suspision list" cause i got busted with mad paint n a few markers they just took it n told me that shit took my shit n let me go, Lately the same cop car has been chillin outside my house alot and honestly i dont know why anyone got ideas? think ive been ratted on again haha.
explosivo_420
11-26-2006, 03:12 AM
thats not funny. after I got arrested two cops posted on the swell of my home waiting for me, once I got near them they got out and gave me two tickets of 48.50 for not having a front, and 48.50 for not having a back light on a fucking bicycle coming home from school at dusk. "This is fucking harrassment!" "Well I'm just lawfully issuing a ticket"
this month court entails criminal mischief under 200 for scratching into back of a police vehicle. (catching a scribe)
possession of cannibus
grand theft auto
and violation of probation.- which brings back a pipe and resisting arrest charge.
the gta owners didnt want to press charges... but I was on probation, so the state might pick it up. who the fuck knows my lifes twisted right now with courts, kicked out of school, getting ged to look decent in court, car accidents surgery and an index finger that doesent move.
Remind me to check back here in a month.
ShIfTeD
11-26-2006, 03:15 AM
attempted murder
vandalization over the cost of $15,000
under the age of carrying a loaded weapon with military issue ammunition
theft
disorderly conduct
woot woot :P
explosivo_420
11-26-2006, 03:25 AM
yeaaah.. my close friend is in prison for attempted murder. if we only had better aim at the range maybe he wouldnt have missed.
"FREE BOBBY"
anyways is that a shitzu in yyour sig? my family has one black and white too.fucking panda
In ireland for a criminal record you cant go to america and it can never be erased
NewbyTJ
03-14-2007, 08:42 PM
4 counts of mishief for under 5000$ i have currently gone to court twice since this occured and my next court date is in April.
Shifted im 15 and I normally get shit load of beef and i can easily get a gun for 60$ i been thinkin bout gettin one not really letting people know i got one unless i gotta but im not the type to pull the trigger and if i did it would be minor like at they're foot or somfin at like 5 in the morning although if it came down to it i could pop a guy in the face to make sure i wouldnt die..u think it a good idea for me 2 grab ahold of a gun and yo can u legally buy ammo underage at a gunshop or i gotta steal em or what?
BIGel
03-14-2007, 11:02 PM
my sympathies to anybody on parole or probation. alternative sentencing is a fucking bitch, and straight up parole even more so. im on until nov 13 2008, and just think before all this i used to be an 8th a day smoker. i also have a no alcohol clause and go to na, aa, and community counseling meetings a total of four times a week, and its cost me well over 2500 dollars so far, and im just four months in..
PaintThaStreets P.T.S
03-15-2007, 02:30 AM
my daddys a lawer...
nah i just wanted to say that yeh id get a lawyer mainly even tho u might think ur smart most lawyers have 1000 times more experience then a cocky tagger even tho i am kinda one i mean talking to him makes my brain hurt......... they are smart id invest in one
Max Pain
03-15-2007, 09:29 PM
Originally posted by Malicious artist@Nov 25 2006, 04:20 AM
i got theft under 5000, civic court meaning i dont have to go. Um it sucks theres no differnence getting caught taking 1 dolla thing and 4999.. uhh
theres no difference in the actual charge but if you DO end up going thu a trial you will get off alot easier if you stole somthin worth $1 rather than 50o0$
KLYPSE6193
03-17-2007, 10:34 AM
I got 1 year of probation but because im a yung offender I have no criminal record. If I were you I would just pay the money
erambik1
03-25-2007, 07:17 PM
does anyone know about the law in the UK for criminal records?
i'm not worried about fines, just the issues with getting a job + going to america u get with a record..
14nick
03-26-2007, 09:17 AM
Shoplifting
Threats to another persons life
and some fights :S
and some prank calls :S
nero122
03-26-2007, 10:51 AM
i stole a bottle of powerade from woolworths n got cuaght so now i got a criminal record haha im more gangsta:P:P:P:P:p;P
Game Ova 07
03-26-2007, 11:33 AM
cops were called on me and some other writer for "lookin suspicious" but he only took our names
AteskOne
03-26-2007, 04:36 PM
6 months "pre-trial" probation for crashing my car at damn near 100 mph with nothing but a permit. fun shit...lucked out with the court. lucked out with being alive lol. wear your fucking seat belts kids.
BIGel
03-26-2007, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by erambik1@Mar 25 2007, 07:17 PM
does anyone know about the law in the UK for criminal records?
i'm not worried about fines, just the issues with getting a job + going to america u get with a record..
haha you'll never get over here now convict. go to australia where they serve your kind.
ive got cought couple of time.. cops are real pigs and are fags. ok let me tell u the court story
1st time ive got cough i was talking so much like it wasent even funny and that made the cop forget to read me my rights and when i went to court i said he dident read my rights and the case was dismissed so easy...
the second time i ran i got away 4 a lil bit i was wondering wtf why they stop chaseing me so i went into some guys garage and took thinner and cleaned my hands and i found a neo green shirt i swaped the shirts and i started to walk home. as i was walking hope there was a cop following me so i acted real chill and stared to smoke a cig.then the cop pulled over ans asked if i was 18 i said why dose it matter? he is u know its againt the law to not tell my ur real age ... im like lol im 22 i showed him my id and he was like ok im sorry but have u seen any one with paint coverd hand and a great hoody. im like nop never seen him and the cop said ok thank carry on. as he left i flicked him off and he pulled over agin im like wtf.he said to me again good night.i said u2 later.. and that was it lol
3rd time i got busted hard core lol stright up. cops came up to me with gun poin and everything.. a lil serious i think..i asked nicely to the cop can i finnish this please? then he put me against the wall and i smeared all the paint on me and that actually saved me because im kinda wanted in my area and they couldent identify what i wright cus they smeared it...
all i got was a 300$fine and 50 hours of CS
gay shit happens to graff artist
JEDI-MASTER
04-11-2007, 03:25 PM
yea i got a knife charge nd bombing a bus hearing on da knife is fukn this friday wtf friday 13th im fuked lol
bigbomba'
04-11-2007, 03:43 PM
ive was charged with felonious destruction of private property via fire/with accelertants....
yea that was when i was 15, i kinda screwed on job applications when it asks about criminal pasts...
i had 20 counts om "malicious vandalism" and got off with 9 month probation
sabe2
04-13-2007, 11:25 PM
im 13 i got busted this kid met in my neighborhood wrote clip chilled for a lil he goes down town toronto get busted and then when they search the local town wear he lives for clips finds it next to my name and he ratted me out like a fuckin paret for a cracker and now i have too go too ocrt for the 4 time i have 4 accounts of mischive under 5000 dallers what do you guys think i will get?
JEDI-MASTER
04-14-2007, 12:28 AM
sabe i would think level 2 probation
"balto"™©
04-14-2007, 12:54 AM
hittin a fr8 is a felony apperantly
EGO31
04-14-2007, 02:38 AM
how did that knife charge go?
I aint got no criminal record. I'm friends with some of the police who live near me so both times when i was caught with a knife and when i was caught racking stuff i was let off with a warning.
Originally posted by BIGel+Mar 26 2007, 05:47 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (BIGel @ Mar 26 2007, 05:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-erambik1@Mar 25 2007, 07:17 PM
does anyone know about the law in the UK for criminal records?
i'm not worried about fines, just the issues with getting a job + going to america u get with a record..
haha you'll never get over here now convict. go to australia where they serve your kind. [/b][/quote]
NAH MAYTE Australia full effin immagrents really shit me to tears :(!
Btw I just looked at muh leg I got a rash I dunno why.
sabe2
04-14-2007, 08:32 PM
what is level 2 probation like what happens??
JEDI-MASTER
04-14-2007, 09:55 PM
ego i got off pretty easy, just sum community service nd shit nd i gotta have like perfect grades n shit for school im going bak may 3rd um sabe level 2 probation is like doing community service possible house arrest, writin letters n shit bout wat u did wrong, having a curfew if not on HA so on n so forth
on a level 2 probation, the men cutt off you ballsack and hold it with them untill your off probation
sabe2
04-18-2007, 04:44 PM
lol thx avan i like youre explination :P
im lookin at 18 month to 2 years wen i get sentenced in july :blink:
Dean44
04-21-2007, 06:57 AM
I havent really gotten to the poit of getting caught by the law, but, what happens if you get a criminal record? is it so bad?
ya'l from usa arnt ya ? so iam not sure wot the laws like over there.
but a criminal record aint exactly best thing you could have, it can stop you visiting some countrys and employers arnt impressed by them :lol:
ThrowItUP
04-21-2007, 09:22 AM
well in the US, good luck getting any sort of high-paying job, getting into any good colleges, and even sometimes, you won't be allowed to own a passport/visa.
soo good luck going anywhere.
bottom line: don't get caught :lol:
uknome
04-22-2007, 10:43 AM
ive been arrested three times for graffiti...never admitted to what i wrote so i never really had to pay mad fines..but i did have to be in juvenile hall, camp, and i just graduated placement...best way to get out situations like that is just not get into them...i had a public defender(same thing as court appointed) and got off with a years probation, 50 hours of probation, i had to attend a probation school for a 100 days.
this was the first time i got caught up though.
good luck though man
one
shie a.k.a. drone
04-22-2007, 02:56 PM
never been caught cause im slick like that. B)
JEDI-MASTER
04-22-2007, 03:38 PM
dont get cocky, sayin shit lie that, will make u make mistakes make u 2 sure of urself,b on ur p's n q's
Dean44
04-22-2007, 06:46 PM
Originally posted by JEDI-MASTER@Apr 22 2007, 03:38 PM
dont get cocky, sayin shit lie that, will make u make mistakes make u 2 sure of urself,b on ur p's n q's
yea, and cross your t's and dot your lowercase j's...?
JEDI-MASTER
04-22-2007, 10:48 PM
so we got a smart ass huh
minor crimes
04-22-2007, 10:57 PM
been actually caught in the act n got a caution for it. no fines. sucks wen u get caught on trains. warning walking the streets with intension. and possession. and im still under 18. how gay. first time i got charged i was loaded with shit coz i went for a stock up. lol. lost like 100bux worth of shit and pissed me off.
BIGel
04-22-2007, 11:15 PM
getting caught with something stupid and small is one thing, but once you get into the probation system youll never fucking get out. i fucking hate it, it just goes and goes and goes.
Fuck the free lawyers. I got caught by three undercover trains cops and my lawyer was all like they didnt see you do it so no worries. Then when I go to see her a day before court shes like ow I havent look at your case yet. then she tells me to plead guilty even though the didnt see me they just caught me with markers and acting suspiciouis. So I go on some program where i did community service and then have no criminal record. Not bad but I could have gotten off but didnt have the money. GET A GOOD LAWYER. I have heard bout 2 writers who got caught red handed twice and still gotten off cause of their lawyer.
tame345
04-23-2007, 03:38 PM
actually i got busted for under 1000$ and they said that 500$ is a felony the staff sergent or w.e said that to me
tame345
04-23-2007, 03:38 PM
actually i got busted for under 1000$ and they said that 500$ is a felony the staff sergent or w.e said that to me
tame345
04-23-2007, 03:38 PM
actually i got busted for under 1000$ and they said that 500$ is a felony the staff sergent or w.e said that to me
joebob
04-23-2007, 05:11 PM
This is kinda off topic but...
If you are just searched by a cop n they find cans of paint, graffiti pens, stickers ect can they take them? (in a city with no age limits on spray paint)
Also if they search you and you have red and black can of paint. And a few blocks away the cops saw a new bomb in red and black is that enough proof to get in shit??
Or do the cops watch you do it?
sobeit
04-23-2007, 05:47 PM
If there's no age restriction on spray paint, they probably won't take it, but idk for sure.
But I know they have to catch you in the act in order for them to be able to do anything.
ThrowItUP
04-23-2007, 06:00 PM
if they dont see it, you can flee it.
really gay, but thats how i always remeber it :D
joebob
04-23-2007, 09:52 PM
alrighty, thats what i was thinkin
Thanks
linger
04-24-2007, 09:38 PM
are you under 16, under 18? i got convicted of felony possession of stolen property as a minor, without a lawyer id be in fuckin jail. get a lawyer, don't belive these people who say "represent yourself". thats a fuckin dumb idea
Live4TheWall
04-24-2007, 10:33 PM
Well there was a bunch of stupid shit from middle school, I dunno I was a stupid stupid kid. Alot of disorderly conducts that got dismissed, got in a fight and just so happened the kid ended up with a bruised spine and got read his last rights, but then he came outta it fine. And they tried slapping attempted murder on me but the public defender got me outta that, just got assault.
Then got caught painting one night, so I got public vandalism under 5000 or something like that, and ofcourse disorderly conduct. And then I dunno why but while on probation for that, I decided to start selling weed, and even though I only got caught with 2.4 grams, I got conspiracy cause I had my friend deliver it to someone, and also delivery of a controlled substance. I should've gotten distribution too but the kid who delivered it didnt testify against me so they couldnt.... But yeah I've been on probation for little over a year now. And I've got a bunch of ACT weekends coming up, hate that shit. Plus its just annoying cause Im 18 and all these other fucks I've gotta deal with are pretty much alot younger than me, not to mention a bunch of idiots.
Crime pays so well, until you get caught.
punkhazard
04-26-2007, 01:57 AM
1. hit and run
2. possesion of marijuana (1/8th)
3. speeding
4. tagging (my own house no lesss.....)
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fuckkkkersss
tha boy in da corner
04-26-2007, 05:29 PM
a good lawyer is not an expense its an investment...
a REALLY good lawyer can get you out of almost anything or at least 90% of the shit you're in...
i got 2 of the 3 charges dropped before i walked in the courtroom
so the point is, get a good lawyer because once you got a record you're screwed
joebob
05-01-2007, 04:39 PM
Heres another question:
If you get busted by a cop while doin a tag/throwup/or w.e will every other of ur tags around the city be blamed on you. Like can they prove if its written the same style with the same letters and word that you wrote them all???
Cuz a cop was seen takin pics of some of my stuff :blink:
ceroX24X
05-02-2007, 03:20 AM
alright i dont mean to ask a dumb question but im freaking out. im on 3 years of summary probation for possession of a deadly weapon. on monday i got caught and written a ticket with 2 friends for a piece we did. am i gonna end up going back to jail?
JEDI-MASTER
05-02-2007, 08:57 AM
Originally posted by ceroX24X@May 2 2007, 03:20 AM
alright i dont mean to ask a dumb question but im freaking out. im on 3 years of summary probation for possession of a deadly weapon. on monday i got caught and written a ticket with 2 friends for a piece we did. am i gonna end up going back to jail?
its back to bn a cell bitch for u my man......nah its prolly just a misdemeanor and u prolly will not go back to jail,just some fines nd mayb more time on probation
i write
05-02-2007, 09:05 AM
Originally posted by joebob@Apr 23 2007, 05:11 PM
This is kinda off topic but...
If you are just searched by a cop n they find cans of paint, graffiti pens, stickers ect can they take them? (in a city with no age limits on spray paint)
Also if they search you and you have red and black can of paint. And a few blocks away the cops saw a new bomb in red and black is that enough proof to get in shit??
Or do the cops watch you do it?
Th ewhole thing is, cops will always try to get as much, as insignifigant as it may seem, evidence against you. this is because the more they have on you, the harder u get punked in the ass by THE MAN. if they find tins or markers in your bag, but didnt see you do anything its easy to get off, if they see you do it, its a different matter. at the end of the day, i doubt ur the kind of guy that needs to worry about police because i doubt u get up enough to even be seen by the police so your in the clear my man.
i write
05-02-2007, 09:07 AM
Originally posted by ceroX24X@May 2 2007, 03:20 AM
alright i dont mean to ask a dumb question but im freaking out. im on 3 years of summary probation for possession of a deadly weapon. on monday i got caught and written a ticket with 2 friends for a piece we did. am i gonna end up going back to jail?
that depends largely on the circumstances under which you were caught. how'd it go down, the see you do it? or jst leaving the spot with paint on your hands? or something else/
ceroX24X
05-02-2007, 12:20 PM
well as we were walking home he pulled us over because someone described us perfectly. i just got away with a ticket and it says "non traffic misdemeanor" on top and in the description it just says "tagging".
joebob
05-02-2007, 06:16 PM
Originally posted by joebob@May 1 2007, 04:39 PM
Heres another question:
If you get busted by a cop while doin a tag/throwup/or w.e will every other of ur tags around the city be blamed on you. Like can they prove if its written the same style with the same letters and word that you wrote them all???
Cuz a cop was seen takin pics of some of my stuff :blink:
anyone know?
Rogue
05-02-2007, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by joebob+May 2 2007, 06:16 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (joebob @ May 2 2007, 06:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-joebob@May 1 2007, 04:39 PM
Heres another question:
If you get busted by a cop while doin a tag/throwup/or w.e will every other of ur tags around the city be blamed on you. Like can they prove if its written the same style with the same letters and word that you wrote them all???
Cuz a cop was seen takin pics of some of my stuff :blink:
anyone know? [/b][/quote]
No, if you deny you did them. You can only be charged if they/somone saw you. Cops take pictures of a lot of stuff around my area. Just because not many people write around here, not sure about your area.
joebob
05-02-2007, 10:22 PM
Originally posted by Rogue+May 2 2007, 06:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Rogue @ May 2 2007, 06:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by joebob@May 2 2007, 06:16 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-joebob@May 1 2007, 04:39 PM
Heres another question:
If you get busted by a cop while doin a tag/throwup/or w.e will every other of ur tags around the city be blamed on you.Â* Like can they prove if its written the same style with the same letters and word that you wrote them all???
Cuz a cop was seen takin pics of some of my stuff :blink:
anyone know?
No, if you deny you did them. You can only be charged if they/somone saw you. Cops take pictures of a lot of stuff around my area. Just because not many people write around here, not sure about your area. [/b][/quote]
Yea, i live in a smaller city and not a whole lot of graffiti. But the graffiti there has been lately is mostly me recently, so i got a bit worried about cops takin pics :unsure:
thanks for the answer!
Oink.
05-02-2007, 10:55 PM
LOL you guys think you got problems?, I JUST GOT RATTED. literally like a few hours ago im done sketching nut sacks cleaned EVERYTHING outve my room. went nd racked a few cans to go over errything in my room(window dont open rooms filled with paintfumes im so fucked.) basically im prettysure if they get a warrent nd search im fine. Take my computer im fucked.
been arreasted 3 times nd counting this'll make lucky number 4.
<SMK>
05-03-2007, 11:24 AM
Ive only been arested and prosecuted one time 4 graffiti and ive been writing 4 about 10 years now, i had 2 pay a $3000 fine and a whole bunch of other shit. Ever since then ive been wearin some sort of mask, gloves, and over all just been more smarter about my shit, and when i say smarter i mean running anytime i see a piggy! :ph34r:
WolfBurrns
05-03-2007, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by Rogue+May 2 2007, 06:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Rogue @ May 2 2007, 06:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by joebob@May 2 2007, 06:16 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-joebob@May 1 2007, 04:39 PM
Heres another question:
If you get busted by a cop while doin a tag/throwup/or w.e will every other of ur tags around the city be blamed on you.Â* Like can they prove if its written the same style with the same letters and word that you wrote them all???
Cuz a cop was seen takin pics of some of my stuff :blink:
anyone know?
No, if you deny you did them. You can only be charged if they/somone saw you. Cops take pictures of a lot of stuff around my area. Just because not many people write around here, not sure about your area. [/b][/quote]
That's true. I got busted awhile back with mops and some slap tags. I got charged because my mops matched the color of the tag they saw(someone called the cops on me). That happened and when I went to court the officer who arrests you is suposed to be there and mine was late. Right when I was about to leave she shows up and says she found ''an exstensive amount of other tags". This bitch tried to get me with more charges but I did deny I did them. I just told her I was a copy cat and that I saw the other shit around town and wanted to try it myself. Got one charge of criminal mishief, a letter of apology, and 12 hours comm. service. Didnt have to pay restitution though because the building was empty.
Randal The Vandal
05-03-2007, 04:10 PM
yo when some one looks up your criminal record i.e. for a job or school, only felony charges show up, so if what ever you got is a misdemeanor, than it shouldnt show up....and usually with graff and minor bullshit like smoking bud, they give you and ACD(adjournment contemplanting dismissal) which is like probation, but if youre a good kiddie for how ever long(like under 6 months) then the case gets dismissed
Oink.
05-03-2007, 04:30 PM
Well its offical, me and my 7man crew are fucked.
3 members alreadty been ratted including me. Oneve them is getting his house raided as we speak he called me when he saw them. So basically its a waiting game till im next to get fucked in the asshole. AHHAahhaha oh what a good thing to wait for...Ugh
Rogue
05-03-2007, 05:33 PM
Originally posted by ****.@May 3 2007, 04:30 PM
Well its offical, me and my 7man crew are fucked.
3 members alreadty been ratted including me. Oneve them is getting his house raided as we speak he called me when he saw them. So basically its a waiting game till im next to get fucked in the asshole. AHHAahhaha oh what a good thing to wait for...Ugh
I honestly don't understand what they can do to you if they raid you, besides look around your stuff. They can't prove you did anything. All they can really do is say you did things, but they won't have proof.
BIGel
05-03-2007, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by ****.@May 3 2007, 04:30 PM
Well its offical, me and my 7man crew are fucked.
3 members alreadty been ratted including me. Oneve them is getting his house raided as we speak he called me when he saw them. So basically its a waiting game till im next to get fucked in the asshole. AHHAahhaha oh what a good thing to wait for...Ugh
if they didnt catch you in the act of painting so they cant charge you with any of what they find. all they can do is put you under watch if your up enough, and ive heard they can put an injunction in place to keep you out of downtown, but im pretty sure you're fine, just time to take a break or change your name/
reka one
05-03-2007, 07:29 PM
i have court soon, even tho i wasnt caught in the act, the piglet found paint in my bag but my mom basically made me confess to the pigs
<SMK>
05-03-2007, 09:42 PM
Originally posted by BIGel+May 3 2007, 05:47 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (BIGel @ May 3 2007, 05:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-****.@May 3 2007, 04:30 PM
Well its offical, me and my 7man crew are fucked.
3 members alreadty been ratted including me. Oneve them is getting his house raided as we speak he called me when he saw them. So basically its a waiting game till im next to get fucked in the asshole. AHHAahhaha oh what a good thing to wait for...Ugh
if they didnt catch you in the act of painting so they cant charge you with any of what they find. all they can do is put you under watch if your up enough, and ive heard they can put an injunction in place to keep you out of downtown, but im pretty sure you're fine, just time to take a break or change your name/ [/b][/quote]
Ya i think ur fine, dont take a break, just change ur name and dont tell no one but the people that write with u.... If ur realy tripin hard gather all ur shit and leave till the heat dies down... if u can...
NesEpic
05-03-2007, 11:19 PM
anyone need legal advice i'm here to help.. i've been arrested a number of times and haven't been charged once.
inert
05-03-2007, 11:30 PM
if you get a ticket for a misdemeanor, and you dont show up to court, you get a warrant right? and if you apply for a job and they run a background check, does it show up?
Oink.
05-04-2007, 12:24 AM
Originally posted by <SMK>+May 3 2007, 09:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (<SMK> @ May 3 2007, 09:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by BIGel@May 3 2007, 05:47 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-****.@May 3 2007, 04:30 PM
Well its offical, me and my 7man crew are fucked.
3 members alreadty been ratted including me. Oneve them is getting his house raided as we speak he called me when he saw them. So basically its a waiting game till im next to get fucked in the asshole. AHHAahhaha oh what a good thing to wait for...Ugh
if they didnt catch you in the act of painting so they cant charge you with any of what they find. all they can do is put you under watch if your up enough, and ive heard they can put an injunction in place to keep you out of downtown, but im pretty sure you're fine, just time to take a break or change your name/
Ya i think ur fine, dont take a break, just change ur name and dont tell no one but the people that write with u.... If ur realy tripin hard gather all ur shit and leave till the heat dies down... if u can... [/b][/quote]
meh, i got my ass cover. S;all good thanks for all the advice.
i write
05-04-2007, 09:06 AM
Originally posted by BIGel+May 3 2007, 05:47 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (BIGel @ May 3 2007, 05:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-****.@May 3 2007, 04:30 PM
Well its offical, me and my 7man crew are fucked.
3 members alreadty been ratted including me. Oneve them is getting his house raided as we speak he called me when he saw them. So basically its a waiting game till im next to get fucked in the asshole. AHHAahhaha oh what a good thing to wait for...Ugh
if they didnt catch you in the act of painting so they cant charge you with any of what they find. all they can do is put you under watch if your up enough, and ive heard they can put an injunction in place to keep you out of downtown, but im pretty sure you're fine, just time to take a break or change your name/ [/b][/quote]
Man some of you guys are niave as fuck. THEY WILL GET YOU FOR ANYTHING THEY CAN, if they cant prove that you did it youre in the clear for that but they'll try mighty hard to get you with smoething else, protect yo neck son
kidkarl
05-04-2007, 11:49 AM
i got charged with a misdimeaner kuz i had a drop of paint on my hand and my freinds had 5 cans on them each and i had 4 cans but i ditched them
BIGel
05-04-2007, 04:23 PM
Originally posted by i write+May 4 2007, 09:06 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (i write @ May 4 2007, 09:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by BIGel@May 3 2007, 05:47 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-****.@May 3 2007, 04:30 PM
Well its offical, me and my 7man crew are fucked.
3 members alreadty been ratted including me. Oneve them is getting his house raided as we speak he called me when he saw them. So basically its a waiting game till im next to get fucked in the asshole. AHHAahhaha oh what a good thing to wait for...Ugh
if they didnt catch you in the act of painting so they cant charge you with any of what they find. all they can do is put you under watch if your up enough, and ive heard they can put an injunction in place to keep you out of downtown, but im pretty sure you're fine, just time to take a break or change your name/
Man some of you guys are niave as fuck. THEY WILL GET YOU FOR ANYTHING THEY CAN, if they cant prove that you did it youre in the clear for that but they'll try mighty hard to get you with smoething else, protect yo neck son [/b][/quote]
unless they physically SEE you painting or tagging they cant charge you with it.
mnopzz
05-24-2007, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by ThrowItUP@Apr 21 2007, 09:22 AM
well in the US, good luck getting any sort of high-paying job, getting into any good colleges, and even sometimes, you won't be allowed to own a passport/visa.
soo good luck going anywhere.
bottom line: don't get caught :lol:
yep. Any felony charges and you have to wait 5 years from last insident till you can roll into canada from the US I hear.
I'm lookin at a class 4 felony, search warrent served. They snarfed 27 cans, portfolio (non graf related) and sketches . Left caps though. This sucks. I never thought PD have nothing better to do than watch my dumb ass and wait till things got sloppy. I have a prior Criminal Damage right when I turned 18 in MN but here in SD Im being charged with Intentional damage. 2200.00 bond but my Public Pretender sweet talked it down to a PR bond.
Im keep'n my mouth shut and hope it gets dropped to misdemnor. Any thoughts or advice?
Oh yeah, estamated $6800.00 in damages is the number the congered up. Theres stuff that will incrimaniate me @ my parents but thats across state lines, is it still admissiable in quart? Dont know if they got a warrent for their place or not.
thanks for anyhelp. I dont want to spend the summer in jail.
Slaze
06-27-2008, 12:36 AM
my friend and i represented our malicious destruction of property charge and just cooperated really well and the detective dropped the charge to a city charge then the probation officer suggested that we pay $865 in total (fines, restitution, and probation) 6 months probation and 6 days of community service. . . the plus side is we are 18 and it does not go on our record under the homes youth training act. . . just work with them (dont admit to any more crimes or anything) call often ask questions and they will do their best to get you in and out of the system as fast and painless as they can.
in reality the court systems dont give a shit about graff writers unless they know you did tons of shit or your town has a problem with graff.
KASE2
06-27-2008, 01:37 AM
got arrested, went to a COPS class, its done, only thing is i gotta appeal tha shit wen i turn 18 2 get it off my record... gotta say tho most fun ne1 kuld evr imagine while getting arrested *enter
Rambooboo
06-27-2008, 09:12 PM
remember anything they ask you if your a minor and you dont have a parent a lawyer you can charge them for interrogation of a minor and being prosecuted with out representation
illadelph
06-27-2008, 10:43 PM
Ya i think ur fine, dont take a break, just change ur name and dont tell no one but the people that write with u.... If ur realy tripin hard gather all ur shit and leave till the heat dies down... if u can... [/b]
meh, i got my ass cover. S;all good thanks for all the advice.[/QUOTE]
.....OR IF YOU WERE SMART,LIKE MYSELF AND SOME OTHERS I KNOW,YOU WOULDN'T WRITE WITH ANYBODY...IF NOBODY SAW YOU DO IT OR KNOWS YOU DID IT THEY CAN'T SAY YOU DID IT CAUSE THEY DIDN'T SEE YOU DO IT.....UNDERSTAND?? EVERYBODY IS ALWAYS SUSPECT HOMIE....IF YOU THINK YOUR BOYS WON'T TELL ON YOU TO AVOID A CHARGE YOUR NUTS!!THEY ALL SAY "I DON'T RAT" OR "I'LL NEVER RAT" AND SOON AS THEY GET JAMMED UP THEY START TELLIN ON EVERYBODY ABOUT EVERYTHING....I GOT BOYS DOIN 15 YEARS FOR GOING FOR A RIDE WITH A SNITCH FUCK THAT SAID THE SHIT THEY GOT JAMMED UP WITH-WHICH WAS THE RAT FUCK'S SHIT-WAS THEIRS....HE SET THEM UP SO HE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO 3 MONTHS....SO THEY GET ROOFED WITH A 15-30 FOR GUNS & DRUGS CAUSE THIS PUSSY-ASS-***** COULDN'T MAN THE FUCK UP AND TAKE A 3 MONTH HIT FOR DOIN WHATEVER HE DID TO GET JAMMED UP.....DO SHIT ALONE!!! TRUST NOBODY CUZ......IF NOBODY KNOWS THEN NOBODY CAN TELL....
anti-anti-crime
06-27-2008, 10:52 PM
ill: when i was arrested with my buddies for underage drinking and "burglary", i tryed to protect them as much as i could of. i took the fall for wat i did, but if it came up about them i would shut my mouth. right now were all looking at com service, probate and fines, its not to bad, but i feel better than i would of if i had ratted my friends out. right now its criminal mischief and criminal tresspassing since we cooperated with the cops. but only to the point of admitting to things we couldnt cover up.
but the entire point of having somebody as your partner is so they could watch your back and so you could watch theres. having somebody you barely know as a partner is stupidity, becuase you dont know that person. having somebody you trust and that you can rely on is one of the best things when it comes to going out and painting.
letsgobombin
06-28-2008, 07:54 AM
if your worried about not being able to get a job because of a criminal record see if you can find a job that gives the possibility of being self employed
AMansNotACamel
07-02-2008, 05:23 AM
haha lucky me and my boy had just packed away the sesh before five oh rolled up <3 airconditioner, just say stuff like anybody can stand in front of a piece with two tins in their hand and front like they did it, if they ask about the sketches of the piece say you copied it. Though it does suck when they run your rego or name and search your car for implements, but getting on a police tv show because of this can be an upside, without having anything illegal in the car of course
hammer_time
07-02-2008, 08:26 AM
remember anything they ask you if your a minor and you dont have a parent a lawyer you can charge them for interrogation of a minor and being prosecuted with out representation
geez there is alot of wrong info flying around this thread
first i would like to point out, there are no crimes with the titles of, interrogation of a minor, it is perfectly legal to interrogate a minor, those rights they read to you even tell you to shut the fuck up, if you dont shut the fuck up we'll use it against you, in pretty much plain english, and being questioned is not prosecution, you cant be prosecuted without representation
because when you go to court thats when prosecution starts...if youve ever tried to represent yourself, the judge will tell you to reconsider, and take the representation....
ohgawdxcarcrash
07-02-2008, 08:45 AM
what do you guys do to get caught? id have to agree with illadel cause if you go with people, at night, it'll look suspicious. the cops think its gang related or illegal shit happening. go by yourself, be cautious do a throw up at a chill spot, and repeat. and cops are allowed to ask you questions, they're not allowed to assume you did it and charge you for it[even if you did]. its their job, its either they ask questions and you answer to prove your innocence or they'll ask the people you go with, and they will snitch on you.
go by yourself, speak your word, the charges wont be half as bad.
i got patted down for just walking with some of my buddies at 2am after meeting up with some girls at the theaters, they found a knife on me and some weed on my friends, all they did was confiscate it and question us asking if i used the knife and why im carrying it, they also asked if we've been smoking weed and crap, they made 3of my friends do community service.
odds are, if you get caught getting up you'll be on probation, possibly charged
depending on how shitty you're represented, and most of the time its community service for minors.
minor crimes
07-02-2008, 09:22 PM
they tried to charge me and my mate with possesssion and intent to use for carrying like 60cans in a car. they pulled us over in teh car and questioned us for about an hour. and then they gave me a caution. can only have 3 cautions till ur 18. and yeh ive had 2 for graff and 1 for assault and like they took my mate to court. and then the first time we had to go to court out matter didnt even get looked at and the second time the other cop didnt even show up. so we got off
ohgawdxcarcrash
07-02-2008, 10:18 PM
they tried to charge me and my mate with possesssion and intent to use for carrying like 60cans in a car. they pulled us over in teh car and questioned us for about an hour. and then they gave me a caution. can only have 3 cautions till ur 18. and yeh ive had 2 for graff and 1 for assault and like they took my mate to court. and then the first time we had to go to court out matter didnt even get looked at and the second time the other cop didnt even show up. so we got off
not everyone is as lucky as you. if you're gonna go bombing with a car, make sure its shitty. so you can say the paint is for the car, and you're just driving your friend home from working night shift.
milfhunter
07-03-2008, 03:52 PM
I Ogt Ticket For Jay Walking Which Sucks Cause Idint Knwo U Could Get Tickets For That Smae Day I Got Arrested For Speeding,suspision Of Vandalism..haha
Enmity
07-03-2008, 04:30 PM
i learned from others who got caught up in some major drug charges.. dont say a word .. nothing cause if you do the more likely of the chance for the cop or whoever to make you say the wrong thing and give them evidence (they are trained to ask questions to make you fuck up). if they threat you doesnt matter..whatever they say.. dont say anything... sit there and let them do whatever .. youll talk when your attorney is present.thats it when you get arrested no matter what it is .. the police are trying to "paint a picture on a canvas" for the judge to prove that you committed the crime and you are guilty.. when you dont say anything they have no "paint" you have a clean canvas.. which is harder for them (because you didnt say anything).. then you have your attorney (his/her job to paint a canvas representing your innocence to the judge) wich is much easier if your didnt start blabbering your mouth to an officer trying to explain what happend what you were doing .. incriminating yourself is pretty common
but then again .. best thing is .. to not get caught
Hobbes
07-03-2008, 05:52 PM
First off, to anyone who has the idea their invincible because "they can't do shit if they didn't see you" well you better think twice...and your fucking KIDDING yourself if you don't think 100% pure innocent people ARE in jail...you aren't fucking innnocent so just be glad if you can get away with most of it, and get off easy in the end. My fucking grandad did 2 years in prison for shit that got overturned.
COPS CAN AND WILL ARREST YOU FOR ANY REASON AND DO NOT HAVE TO TELL YOU WHY YOU ARE BEING ARRESTED you will most likely not happen for no reason, but say your walking down the street with your hood up and paint in hand...you think a cop ISN'T going to arrest you? Maybe a dumb rookie, but most prick cops would jump RIGHT the fuck on you.
For me...2 weeks before I my 18th fuckin' birthday I got caught...I talked a little too much but was careful to not ADMIT I did it or really say anything that was very incriminating, I just told them there was no legal walls around here to do it, theres no substitute for painting, and I wanna be a fuckin' graphics designer so its relevant to my career. Of course the fucking assumed I did ALL of the shit...acting like they knew all kindsa shit...
anyway, I won't discuss the whole story but I ended up getting charged with
resisting arrest (undercovers, badges 'prominintely on there BELTS UNDER their fucking hoodies! I asked "who are you, ARE YOU THE POLICE?!" since I thought I was just getting jumped by some store owners...till the fat man with a gun came out the woods then I thought 'shit this is the cops?' but they still didn't tell me till later on. Oh and the guy who chased me never said shit, just saw me with paint 'n hoodie 'n fuckin' ran at me.)
loitering and prowling
then 2 weeks later, the day before my birthday, they come back with a buncha vandalism charges 'n shit.
In the end, I had to do a plea bargain. Two 3rd degree FELONIES - Criminal Mischief (vandalism) 1 misdeamenor, vandalism, and then resisiting arrest (dropped the loitering charge...wtf was I arrested for?)
I had to do a plea bargain, pleaded 'no contest' so i don't actually have a conviction, and can honestly answer "No I have never been convicted of a felony"
some questions:
The judge said some shit about 5 years or something...I don't remember and didn't fully understand but someone a page or two back said you can't roll into canada for 5 years after felonies? Well i didn't get CONVICTED, but I wanna move to amsterdamn in TWO years...think this will fuck me over? I was a minor, and it was 'judicated' so its not on my public records 'n shit, but it takes like, fucking EIGHTEEN MONTHS to fucking clear your record...
Also, i wanna get my name changed once I get off probation, not for fraudulent reasons necessarily, but I don't want them to look that shit up and be like "oh damn you fuckin' vandal can't decide what your own goddamn name is!" actually, all they would see is fucking "felony, felony" anyone know if this even matters? Or is name changing not that in-depth of a process?
Also...they got my FUCKING prints and FUCKING DNA! FUCKING DNA! taken...if I did get my name changed you think that would fuck them over with that shit? Like...first, if my record gets cleared does that shit disappear? I mean, my it is a RECORD of my prints 'n shit.
Anyone?
Slushi
07-03-2008, 05:55 PM
Everyone shut up about your "rights".
No cop gives a shit.
Bazer
07-03-2008, 06:00 PM
noob cops do.
Hobbes
07-03-2008, 07:12 PM
Everyone shut up about your "rights".
No cop gives a shit.
Listen to this man.
You know what the cops words verbatim were after I told him "Officer you did not identify yourself, your supposed to Identify yourself. I felt a lot of that was unnecessary"
"SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DON'T FUCKING KNOW ANYTHING"
This is...after I have been chased, tackled to the ground AFTER I gave up, saw the gun 'n threw my hands up, ditched paint on the ground and before I got to my knees, I get tackled...get chokelocked (they love that shit, ever heard 'i can't breathe' in a brutality vid?) and was sitting on the ground, mouth bleeding because my tooth had broke off and had tooth chunks in my lip, in addition to a nasty lashing under my chin.
So yeah...you think it worked out okay for me even though they didn't see me paint anything? not really because in the end, when you did it, you did it (i didn't, at least not all of it) and THE ONLY THING that can bring you down is them PHYSICALLY ARRESTING YOU, most likely you aren't going to cover up all your tracks...some people have it easy, but some cops will do anything to catch you.
Oh, 'n THOUSANDS of complaints and shit are sent but nothings really ever done, mad police brutality especially nowadays.
oh 'n for the record, they put "resisisting arrest without violence" so why did my shit get fucked up so bad? You know, a black eye would have been more than sufficient...shit throw in a broken nose 'n I'd be straight.
Seriously, be careful...I'm mad bummed because a tooth is something permanent and paint is not...ya' know? Oh...they never painted over the shit either, it turns out its really not about the paint because I even offered to clean all the shit up.
Man this shit is STILL buggin' me....
illadelph
07-03-2008, 07:33 PM
Do Anything Illegal By Yourself At All Times !!! It Covers Your Ass,as Far As Anyone Telling On You,plus If Some Asshole Gets Jammed Up For Something That You Know He Did...if You Were By Yourself And Not With Him You Can't Be Suspect.if A Cop Stops Me,i Always Treat Them With Respect.even If They Act Like Cocksuckers And Assholes,don't Get Cocky !!!9 Out Of 10 Times They Want You To Answer Back All Loud And Shit So They Have A Reason To Fuck With You.trust Me....out Of Everybody I Grew Up With And Know,there's Only About Me+ 2 Or 3 Dudes Left....mostly Cause They Did Shit They Weren't Supposed To Be Doing***but-they Did It With Somebody Who Ratted Their Ass Out With The Quickness***i Do All My Shit By Myself...and Another Thing-don't Brag About Shit Either !!! As Long As You Know The Truth Then That's All That Fuckin Matters !!! For All You Younger Cats That Might Think Actin All Crazy Is Cool And Shit Like That....you Need To Slow Your Fuckin Role.....fall Back And Chill And Keep Your Fuckin Mouth Shut About Any Shit You Did,saw,were A Part Of,heard,said Or Anything Else.....
Mean Mr.Mustard
07-03-2008, 07:38 PM
damn brethren
Hobbes
07-03-2008, 09:05 PM
Do Anything Illegal By Yourself At All Times !!! It Covers Your Ass,as Far As Anyone Telling On You,plus If Some Asshole Gets Jammed Up For Something That You Know He Did...if You Were By Yourself And Not With Him You Can't Be Suspect.if A Cop Stops Me,i Always Treat Them With Respect.even If They Act Like Cocksuckers And Assholes,don't Get Cocky !!!9 Out Of 10 Times They Want You To Answer Back All Loud And Shit So They Have A Reason To Fuck With You.trust Me....out Of Everybody I Grew Up With And Know,there's Only About Me+ 2 Or 3 Dudes Left....mostly Cause They Did Shit They Weren't Supposed To Be Doing***but-they Did It With Somebody Who Ratted Their Ass Out With The Quickness***i Do All My Shit By Myself...and Another Thing-don't Brag About Shit Either !!! As Long As You Know The Truth Then That's All That Fuckin Matters !!! For All You Younger Cats That Might Think Actin All Crazy Is Cool And Shit Like That....you Need To Slow Your Fuckin Role.....fall Back And Chill And Keep Your Fuckin Mouth Shut About Any Shit You Did,saw,were A Part Of,heard,said Or Anything Else.....
I know man! I'm so tryin' to be like that more I've always kinda been like that I mean I bombed solo mainly, but starting off I got someone else into it but they quickly proved to be mad sketch to do shit with...like shit seriously. 'n I pretty much stopped bombin' with 'em but ya' know what could I do? I guess the smart thing woulda been to ditch 'em a lot sooner 'n just lie and say "oh I don't even graff anymore its too hard" or something. dumb dumb dumb....
I unno I was in a REALLY hard situation to graff, I always wondered why there was no writers around here...just mad hard to do shit here anyhow. Cops are mad dicks here too though, like I always am polite 'n shit 'n I'm white (their racist not me) but they always try to be a fuckin' dick no matter what 'n its hard, especially when your young they know teenagers are up to shit most the time. Lucky I'mma get out 'n bomb mad shit in the future 'n I'm hella more prepared I think I have the potential to be smart 'n shit so I will be able to get mad shit up in the future.
GraffitiEast2008
07-07-2008, 07:44 PM
i got charged with criminail mishceif to. and i had 25 hours community service and 300$ fine thank god they didnt find my otha bombs but since im 14 my parents paid it. and i had probation for 3 months but i got on house arest so they moved it up to 5 months
IlikePie
07-07-2008, 07:51 PM
Do some real crimes kid...
La Coka Nostra
07-07-2008, 07:54 PM
his name is oil, backwards l.
straight gutta.
explosivo_420
07-07-2008, 08:15 PM
juvi:
first time:
possession of drug paraphillia (pipe)
possession of drug paraphillia (scale)
resisting arrest without violence
second time (while on probation):
grand theft auto (odd, never brought to court for it)
third (within days of getting congratulatory notice of completion of first probation):
possession of cannibus
resisting arrest without violence.
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adult:
loitering
agg. battery on law enforcement officer
resisting arrest with violence.
still dealin with it....
Look@it2x
07-07-2008, 08:50 PM
420 u need to chill a little bit sheesh none of that stuff was for graff either
Shiva.
07-07-2008, 08:59 PM
i only got a warning because i stole the keys from a teacher and using that keys i stole about all the art supplies the school had.
i had fun with it for almost 2 years, but at the end i got caught and they called the cops.
i didn't get more than a warning because i gave the keys back and the art stuff i still had left.
i got snitched out by one of my supposed 'best' friends, we got pulled over for tinted windows, with paint in the car, and some tips. they seperated us, one other friend and i denied it all, they said an investigator was on the way, cared one of my friends, and he gave a statement. everything matched up enough for them to convict me.
3 felonies
5 misdemeanors of criminal mischeif
and 5 misdemeanors of 'making graffitti'
felonies got dropped to misdemeanors
i have 3 years probation, restitution out the ass, and mad lawyer fees
the whole debockle cost me over 10 grand.
dont trust even your closest friends. stay correct to yourself. FUCK EVERYONE.
i didnt think this shit was such a big deal til i was arrested. the judge was telling me some shit like he could put me in prison for like 11 years for this shit. fuck that yo, take no chances.
Hobbes
07-27-2008, 02:57 PM
i got snitched out by one of my supposed 'best' friends, we got pulled over for tinted windows, with paint in the car, and some tips. they seperated us, one other friend and i denied it all, they said an investigator was on the way, cared one of my friends, and he gave a statement. everything matched up enough for them to convict me.
3 felonies
5 misdemeanors of criminal mischeif
and 5 misdemeanors of 'making graffitti'
felonies got dropped to misdemeanors
i have 3 years probation, restitution out the ass, and mad lawyer fees
the whole debockle cost me over 10 grand.
dont trust even your closest friends. stay correct to yourself. FUCK EVERYONE.
i didnt think this shit was such a big deal til i was arrested. the judge was telling me some shit like he could put me in prison for like 11 years for this shit. fuck that yo, take no chances.
Fucking Amen. I'm so bitter towards people I'm not even going to tell other writers that I write when I start again. I don't care if cope2 comes up to me and says he saw me throw up an ill handstyle, I'll tell him "I didn't fucking do that!"
But hey, I did hear one thing I was curious about, "Hearsay cannot get you convicted" except for the fact there's a bunch of 'exceptions' to the rule. Anyone know more about this?
Whats a good way to avoid meeting other writers? I don't want to run into anyone when I'm out bombing, to tell the truth.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearsay_in_United_States_law
I think usually the hearsay has to accompany other evidence, so always keep your shit straight. When I got popped they were so fucking excited about certain shit "Oh great, we got paint ooh and a glove!"
I want to get a small sack, like those things crown royal bottles come in, and stuff shit in that, then keep that by my nutsack, like markers, caps, etc. and cans will stay in my belt buckle, especially when carrying a bag so they'd be more wanting to search my bag than me.
What kind of trouble do you get in for lying though, and what instances? I know lying it court is a felony, but cops do that shit all the time and lie in general all the time. As long as they can't prove it, your straight, but thats still a big risk to get caught in a lie because then your word won't have any credit and you can't defend yourself without them thinking your a total liar.
But hey, stay up kid. Learn how to rack real shit and pay all the fees with that. Not worth breaking your back for all that shit. If you can, you might wanna try 'n appeal that shit if you can find some loopholes, if that statement wasn't made in court...I see a lot of flaws, was he even under oath?
hammer_time
07-27-2008, 03:09 PM
But hey, stay up kid. Learn how to rack real shit and pay all the fees with that. Not worth breaking your back for all that shit. If you can, you might wanna try 'n appeal that shit if you can find some loopholes, if that statement wasn't made in court...I see a lot of flaws, was he even under oath?
no dude, anything you say after arrest is considered a statement to the police, hence the miranda warning....
anything you say to a police officer after you've been arrested IS a binding statement that can be used against yourself, or if you choose to implicate someone else, that person too.
Hobbes
07-27-2008, 03:15 PM
no dude, anything you say after arrest is considered a statement to the police, hence the miranda warning....
anything you say to a police officer after you've been arrested IS a binding statement that can be used against yourself, or if you choose to implicate someone else, that person too.
You know they hardly bother with that miranda shit anymore...
Read the link I posted, it says something about people being in elevated stress levels.
I know that when I was arrested they didn't read my my miranda properly and didn't do it until after I mentioned that I was just 'trying to be a good citizen and make sure they didn't violate any of my rights' because hey, thats what I was taught in school.
But sometimes you can get hearsay thrown out, its worth a try. If some punk did that to me I would do whatever it took to discredit them. Hell, I'd take evidence into court that I fabricated and say "Here is proof that this person is a proven liar and that statement holds no weight because 1 2 and 3" then present them with some sort of evidence.
But like I said, hearsay is usually only good when it is accompanied by other things. So if you get busted with say tips, and someone says "I saw him do this" then you should try to discredit that person, and legitimize your reason for carrying tips.
"I'm an art student and a fellow student gave them to me so I could experiment with them since I'm doing a mural for my aunt at her house, that person could have not seen me because I was across the street using a bathroom in the gas station, their statement is biased because they are the direct victim effected and seek only restitution, not true justice."
you see where I'm going with this...
simple zen
07-27-2008, 05:26 PM
juvie-possession of marijuana, trespassing (roof of a store, i was there for a couple hours smokin' and chillin'), "loitering and prowling" (since they couldn't get me for breaking into cars), and drug paraphenalia (visine and 3 empty bags with crystals in them). plead guilty to all these nuccas.
hobbes, your absolutely right with all those things you said. at the time i didnt really understand all the laws at the time. but what i said to them was i was going to spraypaint my bicycle, and the different tips were for making different size stripes. they said well why do you have a bag full of paint. i said well it takes a lof of coats... i wasnt as prepared as i would have liked to be. my friend just totally blew it up though with what i write, every place i did it, and he was incriminating himself too. had i felt there was really a way out, i wouldnt have taken the plea bargain, it was all reduced to 3 misdemeanors, which was a good deal, im getting off probation at a year and a half. I felt like there was no way out, but to take it, so i plead guilty to something way smaller than what the judge said i 'should have gotten". now im just really wary about who goes with me, if anyone... and now i stick mainly to bridges, frieghts, railroad, and mostly state owned spots. theyre less likely to prosecute than a small business owner that just spent his life savings on the mobile dumpsters.
and of course, new name.
simple zen
07-27-2008, 07:16 PM
yo whenever i have a bad feeling when i'm roaming with another head... i tell that person what the story is in case we get pulled over. and rule number one is...
I DON'T WRITE GRAFFITI, I DON'T KNOW YOU TOO WELL.
Hobbes
07-27-2008, 07:57 PM
hobbes, your absolutely right with all those things you said. at the time i didnt really understand all the laws at the time. but what i said to them was i was going to spraypaint my bicycle, and the different tips were for making different size stripes. they said well why do you have a bag full of paint. i said well it takes a lof of coats... i wasnt as prepared as i would have liked to be. my friend just totally blew it up though with what i write, every place i did it, and he was incriminating himself too. had i felt there was really a way out, i wouldnt have taken the plea bargain, it was all reduced to 3 misdemeanors, which was a good deal, im getting off probation at a year and a half. I felt like there was no way out, but to take it, so i plead guilty to something way smaller than what the judge said i 'should have gotten". now im just really wary about who goes with me, if anyone... and now i stick mainly to bridges, frieghts, railroad, and mostly state owned spots. theyre less likely to prosecute than a small business owner that just spent his life savings on the mobile dumpsters.
and of course, new name.
Word man, I feel you, I was in the same boat pretty much, only I incriminated myself a bit too much. My idea was, as long as I don't directly say I did it, I'm straight, I told 'em I liked graphic design and shit, never said what I write or nothin', told 'em theres no legal walls etc. - NEVER said I did any of it, but you know they implied it, and my mom said "he paints at home" but they said "his mother said she reconized the words as words he painted at home" which I NEVEr painted at home and NEVEr let my mom saw what I draw. Needless to say, they pinned me with 'admitting' to several names that I DIDN'T do, so it really didn't matter either way. At least I learned that talking to cops period can get you arrested even if you didn't do it.
Anyhow...they lacked a lot of evidence, but they had 1 thing that would lead them to pretty much all the shit...and I didn't wanna risk it because honestly there was over 14 places tied to that 1 name, and they had a can with prints on it that didn't help at first, but if they went to match it up...ooh I'd be fucked.
I'm still a lil worried they could come back and re-arrest me, but they just don't have enough on me. The guy said he had like 8 other cases open, and there were references to other open cases in the 50+ page 'discovery' report on me.
Said they even had anonymous tips, and 1 fucker I used to paint with told an entire fucking trap house what I write - NOT FUCKING GOOD.
And yeah simple zen, even if I did inevitably go out with someone, I wouldn't have the balls to admit to them I do graff or what I write, I would just be constantly saying "I don't write graffiti dude- remember that" seriously I hate people so much, sick of learning the "trust NO ONE lesson" 'cause your mom will set that ass up fast. What song is that from?
~Star~
07-27-2008, 08:19 PM
i got arrested and charged with possesion of stolen property, theft under 5000 and fraud, at court i talked to this lady who worked with a "diversion" program, i took it, had to write an apology letter and attend weekly meetings for like 6 weeks, 10 hours of comunity service, no criminal reccord, no charge, ASK TO TAKE DIVERSION
Hobbes
07-27-2008, 08:30 PM
i got arrested and charged with possesion of stolen property, theft under 5000 and fraud, at court i talked to this lady who worked with a "diversion" program, i took it, had to write an apology letter and attend weekly meetings for like 6 weeks, 10 hours of comunity service, no criminal reccord, no charge, ASK TO TAKE DIVERSION
NOOOOO
Kid, that worked out for you, kid, and I call you a kid because you are lucky enough to be young enough to get it. But honestly...diversion fucks you over.
I go in there and they say "oh anything you say will not be able to be used in court" what you think they do? Haha, fuck yeah, I think thats actually how they were able to arrest me the second time. (I didn't get caught painting, but was under investigation so me getting arrested with paint didn't help...) But it surely didn't help that I had to admit to the crimes to even be eligible for it. Plus they make you do hella gay shit like drug testing and stuff a lot.
Sure, you can complain, but what does that solve? Especially when the bitch who interviewed you fucking quits her job for 'personal reasons' so its not like you can even have the satisfaction of gettin' them fired.
How hard would it be to make a bomb that would blow up a small town? It needs to be done. (JUST KIDDING FOR THE PYSCHO POLICE FUCKS READING THIS)
I guess you can say im pretty lucky. Both times i got pulled over, I got a warning. The first time was running a stop sign(rolling stop) and I had a illeagal limit of ppl in the car, and I had a busted taglight. Second time was last night. The scene downtown was sketchy cause it was saturday night and the bars were full, and the police were out. I couldnt do anything without a drunk trying to fight me or a cruiser rolling by looking for drunks. So I left, and A cop pulled me over for doing 38 in a 35(gay right?) Well I had a shitload of paint rolling around in the front seat, and a couple posters in the chair, and i was like FUCK. So I pulled over to the curb and was trying to throw all my shit under the seat, and the cop walks up, and he could tell I was freaking out. He asked for my liscence and blah blah blah and then he made me get in the cruiser, so im like ok, im fucked. Well, We get in, and hes telling me he clocked me doing 38 in a 35, and I was out past my curfew(2 violations=a 24 stay in juvie) but he laughed and asked me if this was my first time getting pulled over, and I saw that as an excuse to my nervoussness and said yes. He laughed and said heel let it slide this time and I was on my way. That was the closest I have ever been to shitting my pants. Either he was fucking stupid or just didnt see the paint& posters, I was fucking lucky.
oh yea, and about the miranda rights, ive been arrested 3 times(not proud to say that, trust me), and never heard any cop read them to me... by law if you arent read your rights, isnt everything that they brought into court null? thats what i thought, but the judge wasnt hearin that at all... overall fuck cops and snitches
and fuck everyone who says theyre your friend and fuck you over
it sucks not truting people
why are these bullets here
some more bad news ESP and EQUIP of NES just got caught
watch your back dudes
and yea thats whatsup STAR, but they dont usually offer intervention type programs when your 19, im now 21, and had a thick record, mostly cause of this graff shit.
for a while i hated graff i threw out all my shit, stopped drawing, and tried to not think about it at all... but the rush is so awesome, and its the only time i feel so free, like nothing else matters. (opening up to be called names prolly but o well)... i feel like its a way to stick it to the man without him knowing exactly who did it. and it just feels good to relate to people with people with this interest.
fuck, i always ramble when i get interested in something
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be safe, stay up
BAZEA.K.A.JET:SDFK!
07-28-2008, 12:59 PM
yo wassup!
man, juss got busted a couple weeks ago.. me n some friends were goin out to do a little dirty work... burned a crew on a rooftop... went according to plan! then went to destroy some poles... me n a friend... the rest in a car... dumbasses were following us! cops showed up n everyone booked it.. me n my friend hid at a house n got away clean... couple hours later our parents call us askin y are the cops looking for us?? fuckin homies snitched! they called us in.. right wen i walked up to the cop he says" ur baze, right?? weres proper?" n i was like shit... told him i did the poles... stupid mistake cuz my name was hoooooooooooooooott! hopefully they dnt do their homework! m for some retarded reason my so called friend had to mention the rooftop! so out of stupidity, i took the rap for 7 poles n a roof.. i think the snitch got released.. goin court in a couple days... since im 17, hopefully i juss get probation or someshit... anyone know whats the worst for a teen with a well known name?? fuck man if only i read this thread earlier! haha i would be out n about! they havent told me my charges yet..fuuuuuuuuuuuuck...haha
simple zen
07-28-2008, 01:22 PM
if i ever get caught for graffiti, or cops were knocking at my door saying "we have evidence that you write this" i'd be like "get off my tip you know how many people right that? buddy over there in (insert rich neighborhood here) writes that name a hundred times more than i do, i did it once. he drives a (insert nice car name here) and he is tall and white." then i would ramble on and on about how it looks like middle class does it instead of the rich fucks, just because the difference in income.
but that's some skeevy shit.
Hobbes
07-28-2008, 03:24 PM
if i ever get caught for graffiti, or cops were knocking at my door saying "we have evidence that you write this" i'd be like "get off my tip you know how many people right that? buddy over there in (insert rich neighborhood here) writes that name a hundred times more than i do, i did it once. he drives a (insert nice car name here) and he is tall and white." then i would ramble on and on about how it looks like middle class does it instead of the rich fucks, just because the difference in income.
but that's some skeevy shit.
Yeah man, I'm wonderin' what the best way to convince them that you aren't responsible for alll the tags with that same name.
Like I think stickers would be a great way to get up, obviously, but what happens when a cop finds 100 stickers on you with your name written all over 'em? Kinda hard to say that your not the one doin' all of it.
Oh, 'n I've only been 'arrested' 2 times (one other time for stealin when I was lil but they got their shit back so it never went to court just got banned from the park) but anyway. When I got arrested they never told me I was under arrest but more importantly, the second time they WOULD NOT tell me they were cops I thought I was just being jumped by angry store owners and then the handcuffs came out so I'm thinking 'shit are they gunna cuff me and beat the shit outta me more? or just wait for the cops' then it hit me that they probably were the cops so I started shoutin' "WHO ARE YOU? ARE YOU THE POLICE? WHO ARE YOU?" only to be met with a "SHUT THE FUCK UP!" and later on, after my face was covered with blood and my hands cuffed behind my back, they said something like "of course we're the fucking cops!"
Shit...don't they realize what a monster they have created? Like I'm not going to 'restitute' them properly.
osnapizzel
07-28-2008, 03:29 PM
i betta see a ***** sue a ***** ya herrd
simple zen
07-28-2008, 03:38 PM
worrrddd you should take that to court. and you should have taken pics of yourself to prove the scars.
but if you tell them the excuse i said that there's multiple people writing the same shit, they would break out the photos (and trust me, you thought bombingscience was serious with the photos, cops got a god damn library) and ask which ones you did. and i would say two of them and the rest no. they would ask who's writing it, and if you don't tell us we'll take you to court and say you did all of them. tough shit.
Hobbes
07-28-2008, 03:55 PM
worrrddd you should take that to court. and you should have taken pics of yourself to prove the scars.
but if you tell them the excuse i said that there's multiple people writing the same shit, they would break out the photos (and trust me, you thought bombingscience was serious with the photos, cops got a god damn library) and ask which ones you did. and i would say two of them and the rest no. they would ask who's writing it, and if you don't tell us we'll take you to court and say you did all of them. tough shit.
The thing is...when you did do all of them, you kinda can't hide from that always, ya' know? Like I said, I had a partner for a short time in the beginning. I'm just glad I'm not getting more shit from them, I mean, its not like graff is even the only criminal activity I'm involved in.
But hey, I decided, unfortunately, that doing a plea bargain was the best idea. They were OUT TO GET ME. And when police are out to get you, it DOESNT MATTER. Yo, I had a relative who did 2 years hard time-big boy prison- for shit he didn't do, luckily it got overturned and he didn't have to serve the full sentence, but how you think that makes me feel?
Not fucking safe to say the least, and the area I'm in is BACKWARDS. You ever seen some truly corrupt shit go down and you just think 'what? no way...how could that happen?!' This is that place.
This is the place where they give people a full year for misdemeanors to make an example out of them. Apparently some other kid my family knew (played sports with my cousins or something) is doing like 2 years for graff or something, I don't know what the deal is with that...but I know the laws, and uhhh...yeah, I'm just gonna be happy to get out of here without a bullet being put in my head.
Besides, you say 'sue that bitch!' but I don't ever plan on taking anyone to court, I mean, there's more mature ways of dealing with it. Ya' know, productive ways that actually produce results, why would I bother spending more money on the court system when it fucked me over to begin with? They took photos on scene of what my face looked like, but obviously those where not in the evidence presented to the court, but it didn't actually go to real court- like a trial.
simple zen
07-28-2008, 04:10 PM
but that's fuck shit... you ask "why would i spend more money when the court system fucked you over" and if you mention the front dash cam on the cop car and how it should always be faced towards the suspect... it'll make them seem less credible. then you should ask about the pictures taken that night. attorney. bada boom bada bing bro. it's not that difficult. and it's definitely not as if they're out to fuck you over all the time.
although, if you're guilty, who the fuck cares what you have to say. right??
i was out with some homies breakin' in cars one night, someone called in to the police about suspicous activity. we all get the fuck beaten out of us, we get loitering and prowling (this is a very long story shortened up) and they take us to the station and ask us about cars, and put us all in the same room to see if we were gonna say some fuck shit. too bad we're not that stupid. i said to my friend "how bad did the cop beat you up" and since that's on camera, you think they'll take it to court? hell no. think next time you're in the interrogation room. talk to yourself. bullshit bullshit bullshit all throughout
"Riot"
07-30-2008, 03:36 PM
couple times listed as a missing person. if that even counts.
juvie possession of cocaine.
juvie possession of marijuiana.
juvie drug parafenaleia? whatever yeah.
shoplifting at sears.
got locked up a good while for all this.
house got raided last week and they got my graff shit.
they lookin for my "name" now.
i told them i wrote CORE hahahahah.
simple zen
07-30-2008, 03:57 PM
they raided your crib for graff?
"Riot"
07-30-2008, 04:13 PM
nah.
they raided it for drugs. which were in my balls cause i knew they were coming. andddd they found all my markers and saw tags everywhere and opened the drawer and boom. thousands of dollars of vandalism in there face.
they wont catch me though.
simple zen
07-30-2008, 04:16 PM
yeah if you change your name... or style. and if they see your tags just say that's not your style because you changed up =)
"Riot"
07-30-2008, 04:22 PM
thats what i plan on doing.
i write trash now.
i did a looonnnggg ass hollow infront of the police station that says trashywhitechild!
hahahha.fuck da po!!!
It kind of defeats the purpose to change your name to clear your shit and then post your new name and the first spot you did it with on a public forum... no beef, just saying.
"Riot"
07-30-2008, 07:54 PM
nahh. if they were lookin for me on my computer.
they wouldve got my ass along time ago.
Look@it2x
07-30-2008, 08:19 PM
if ur tryin to stay low key that was a dumb thing to do, just sayin
"Riot"
07-31-2008, 12:56 PM
yeah i hear you on that.
I GOT CLOUT
07-31-2008, 02:05 PM
Ok, last page I heard someone talkin about them takin fingerprints off a can. Would they go to these lengths? I ask because I got arrested for a DUI back when I was 18 so they got my prints and face and what not. And now im super paranoid of them nabbin my prints off a can, maybe even tips (although I know thats unlikely) or even gettin them off the slaps I stick up. Especially when im usin decos and I put my finger in a part thats still wet. I scratch it out, but still.
Would they take the time and money to dust and run that shit?
Hobbes
07-31-2008, 05:15 PM
Ok, last page I heard someone talkin about them takin fingerprints off a can. Would they go to these lengths? I ask because I got arrested for a DUI back when I was 18 so they got my prints and face and what not. And now im super paranoid of them nabbin my prints off a can, maybe even tips (although I know thats unlikely) or even gettin them off the slaps I stick up. Especially when im usin decos and I put my finger in a part thats still wet. I scratch it out, but still.
Would they take the time and money to dust and run that shit?
Don't kid yourself, of course they would and have.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/webscout/2008/07/alleged-la-tagg.html?cid=124309174#comments
Should wear gloves if you wanna touch ANYTHING, like climbing shit, putting your hand on the wall your tag is right next to.
Wipe your cans before you go out, 'n only touch 'em when you got gloves on.
Oh, and uhh...yeah they would even check tips for prints, know that for a fact.
When your done, wipe the can and dispose of it correctly, preferably in a dumpster or somewhere acceptable, not too close to the spot in case theres a print or too.
I've even heard of foot prints coming into play in some cases, be careful what you step in, maybe get kicks with no print on the bottom.
I GOT CLOUT
08-01-2008, 12:35 AM
Word, good looking out.
GraffitiEast2008
08-20-2008, 08:53 PM
criminail records? yeah i got a couple of those
BIGel
08-20-2008, 09:16 PM
i got a few.. haha
minor:
dui
3 mips
misdemeanor vandalism
possession of a controlled substance
possession of paraphenilia
11 months in juvie.
adult:
public intox
possession and trafficking schedule III
(14 months in Nevada State Prison)
probation violation 2x
possession of less than a half ounce of marijuana
paraphenilia
yes dude, "objects known to be used for drug use" i believe. thats what they get u with when all u got is a pipe or something and no goods.
BIGel
08-20-2008, 09:34 PM
yep fubes right. when i was a minor i once got sent up for two months because i had one of those jerry rigged soda can pipes in my car. its all a crock of shit. the whole us legal system is total bullshit.
(SoS)Viruz
08-20-2008, 09:37 PM
Ok, last page I heard someone talkin about them takin fingerprints off a can. Would they go to these lengths? I ask because I got arrested for a DUI back when I was 18 so they got my prints and face and what not. And now im super paranoid of them nabbin my prints off a can, maybe even tips (although I know thats unlikely) or even gettin them off the slaps I stick up. Especially when im usin decos and I put my finger in a part thats still wet. I scratch it out, but still.
Would they take the time and money to dust and run that shit?
Yo Clout man. Yea they do get cans for finger prints. I was watchin the News and they were talkin about how there going to swipe cans and wall for prints. So yea man you have to be careful of what you touch and how you touch it. Make sure to have Gloves at all time. And like dude said dispose of currectly that Includes every thing you use. Ight man.
BIGel
08-20-2008, 09:40 PM
if your prints arent in the system your straight though. and it takes time to do prints, and money. cops have murder rape trafficking bigger fish to fry and waste their resources on, unless your a straight up king you dont have to worry about this.
AntennaSoul
08-21-2008, 03:12 AM
Got caught a little bit ago at this bridge that runs along the tracks. My friend and i went down and seen some kids fucking around on the tracks about a block down from us. We didn't think much of it, ignored them and went to work. I had got up a 2 throwies and a few tags. Then my friend had just started to paint. He got a throw-up done and then in the middle of his tag we hear someone shout, "what the hell do you think your doing!?" we look to our right and there was a fucking cop about 15 feet from us. It was to short of a distance to run and this guy was fucking huge. The cop didn't see what i had done, but i had paint all over my hands ,then had my backpack on me with about 8 cans and a shit load of caps. I also stupidly had my blackbook on me......but luckily he didn't look in. Didn't get arrested, but got ticketed.
MDOP(Malicious Destruction Of Property)-Misdemeanor....Malicious Destruction..WOW..Spray Paint..?..guess im a real asshole..
Trespassing-Misdemeanor
Turns out he had got a call that some kids were playing on the train tracks and throwing pebbles at cars. those kids had booked it, went down to see if there were others and noticed us. That asshole hit the fucking jackpot.
The court said the cop had wrote the ticket wrong. He wrote up a state crime and a city ordinance crime on the same ticket. so they ended up dismissing the trespassing offense. I thought after that i might not have to pay so much.... i was so wrong.They also never took pictures of anything, or took my black book or even ask me for my tag name.
Well I just got sentenced yesterday. i got hit with
1000$ restitution from the GTW railroad...... R U Fucking kidding me?!
200$ fine
360$ for probation cost
95$ for state minimum cost & Crime victim assessment...whatever that is.
1year probabtion, but after that year is done it goes off my record... if i don't fuck up
40 hours community service
and random drug test...What.. they're really trying to all my money.
Grand total:1,655$
My friend got the same thing except only ending up with 850$ grand total. I'm guessing it's because I was the one with the paint cans and I'm 19 and he's 17. i don't know..... whatever. This was my first time getting caught for anything. I don't but this all seems kinda excessive...Well i did do it in the suburbs...A Really Nice one too...last time ill do it in a place like that.
Hobbes
08-21-2008, 03:36 PM
Did you learn your lessons at least?
1. Don't fuck around at any spot, you and your friend should have been painting at the same time (or 1 keeping 6), then left immediately as opposed to him waiting for you to finish your throwies. Obviously neither of you was lookin' out.
2. If you see other people around, especially that could bring heat because they are fucking around, BOUNCE, do your shit quick if you really want, but BOUNCE. Seen a similar situation to yours, only it was kids across the street fighting, luckily no one got caught that night (painting at least), but cops showed the fuck up and the person painting was driving past them with 20 goddamn cans in a back pack...dumbass.
3. LEARN TO RUN. I don't care how short a distance it was, you should have had an escape route planned, and one of you should have been looking out so that he couldn't get that close. I don't care how fucking big he is, that means he is a hell of a lot slower. Cops for the most part run SLOOWW, I promise you this. They do NOT like to run, they were NOT track stars in highschool, they love their fucking cars to sit on their asses.
Not being condescending, just giving advice for next time for the both of us to take.
Oh, and lastly.
4. Paint by yourself. Always.
but be glad that shit was only misdeamenor for some reason...know someone who got 2 fucking felonies, 2k in "restitution" ha my fucking ass, thats why you got raped with 1k lol its an extra hundred or few, so they can get some extra cash outta the deal.
seriously, imagine getting felonies for that shit...you can't leave the fucking country. I'll kill myself the day I'm convicted of a felony and realize I'm stuck in the US. That shit is FUCKED.
Tab91
08-23-2008, 12:46 AM
They can do whatever they want to you, you think you have rights you dont
ohgawdxcarcrash
08-24-2008, 02:23 AM
They can do whatever they want to you, you think you have rights you dont
you're right. if they start pounding you with their meat, who cares? just laugh it off when you're sitting in a cell thinking about how you didn't try. while your cellmate decides to roleplay as the officer and recreate that night.
simple zen
08-24-2008, 11:32 AM
^^bro i was sittin' there laughin at this for a couple minutes straight.
i got 3 things
minor :
complot,
qualified theft and
introduction by offence
Queezy
08-27-2008, 05:53 AM
About 2 weeks ago me my boy went on a bombing mission for about 3 hours, on the wayback to the car my friend stupidly tags an outer wall next to an apartment complex, were about 100 yards from the car and we see some cop looking figures booking it towards us. They take us to the curb asking us shit (deny deny deny) finnaly cuff him and put em in the car. Then 3 cops come to me tellin me he said I did the tag and I planned some super mission bombing the whole town. Me: "You really think that will go through with 1 can of paint that is almost full?" Cops: "Thats just what your buddys sayin"
Me: "Um he's probably not but uh.........okaaayyyy. I end up with curfew only(17) and he gets misdemeanor vandal. 10 hours community service, and 6 months probation without an officer. Damn that took too many words for that story.
ohgawdxcarcrash
08-27-2008, 11:08 AM
i hate how they always try to turn people against their own friends, just so they can use what you say as evidence. happened to me when i got caught stealing, the guy tried telling me that my own sister told him i stole and that, that was my plan to start with and that ive stolen there before.
I looked at him like he was retarded and said "i already admitted to stealing, she had nothing to do with it and she didn't even know that i was going to steal. why would my own SISTER say something like that to strangers she doesnt even know. and you should really double check because if it were my intentions to steal, i wouldnt be carrying any money with me, and probably wouldnt have stolen something so small. you're lying right now and thats just as bad as stealing." the idiot thought that she was my friend or something and since it was all males there, they werent allowed to check her.
i never bomb/rack with people i dont 100% trust. it'll only make it easier for them to convince me that the other person did rat me out. if anytime someone tries to tell you that another person said something that could possibly provoke you to spill out some shit about them, dont ever believe it especially if they are saying its from someone you know well. their worst fear is that you'll catch on to what they're trying to do.
simple zen
08-27-2008, 11:22 AM
yo whenever i get pulled over, i already start telling our story. don't freak, give him license and registration... keep telling the story incase he tries freakin' us out. make sure it's accurate. any questions we didn't cover we don't answer.
also if we're coming from a certain direction, we just say we were coming from so and so's house (preferably a non felon) and they live here and that's why we're on this road. make sense?
anti-anti-crime
08-27-2008, 11:33 AM
i always get my story straight with my friends.
i never rack or bomb with people i dont know. or ones that crack under pressure easily. there the ones that will fuck you over.
simple zen
08-27-2008, 11:48 AM
fa sho i just ended a friendship with a fuck ass kid who said that i tagged with him, and his excuse for snitchin' me out was "bro they had a good feeling it was you anyway they would have charged you anyway". what a fucking idiot. he thinks that suspicion means arrest them.
always roll with kids that got heart.
ClaimRSM
08-27-2008, 12:57 PM
always roll with kids that got heart.
everyone should note this
respERATION
08-27-2008, 01:12 PM
i have no criminal record
ohgawdxcarcrash
08-27-2008, 06:53 PM
Tbh i wouldnt rat anyone out. even if im not close to the person, id try to defend the other person as much as i can. if they told me that im going to jail or something i would demand evidence to prove that i did in fact take part in it, they can't put you in jail for not talking.
if i did have something to do with it, then id take the fall for it. theres no need to rat other people out just so you can have someone to sit next to in jail.
anti-anti-crime
08-27-2008, 07:19 PM
i agree with you completely. but theres no point in falling for somebody elses crime. if they say im gunna be doing 9 months in county lockup if i dont tell them who really did it, im gunna tell them who really did it. take a fall for your own shit. not other peoples.
MessTonic
08-27-2008, 08:21 PM
one of my best friends got arrested today for coming to school drunk, having a knife on him, and resisting arrest. his parents arent bailing him out so he will be in there for a little bit. it's sad shit because he is going brain dead, he gets fucked up more than once every day..
ohgawdxcarcrash
08-27-2008, 10:39 PM
If he gets fucked up daily, the best place for him to be is either jail, or an asylum.
the kind of jails they put people under 18 isn't that bad.
and an asylum.. .you can be taken care of.
but id never want to be in either of those, unless i had no family/money/food/etc
simple zen
08-28-2008, 01:21 AM
^^ i was just thinking. juvenile is a vacation compared to "big boy jail"... but then there's state and that makes jail look like a picnic as well. in jail people aren't fed up and angry like the people are in state pen.
BIGel
08-28-2008, 01:25 AM
in jail you have alot less shit than you do in prison, barely any yard time, no smoking, no drugs, shittier food. because they havent classified people yet so its on a constant lockdown because they dont know what to expect so in that respect its shittier.
but then you finally get to the joint and its a million times worse. its politics and mind games and fear and being on edge all day every day. and being treated like a fucking animal, like you beneath a dog, it messes with your mind and eats away at you slowly.theres nothing legit about it.
simple zen
08-28-2008, 01:34 AM
friend did a year in state... said that all that bullshit is true bout how blacks chill with blacks and the white boys chill with the white boys and so on.. and that if you're a white boy whos down with the black clique that everyone knows you.
sounds like people get bored.
BIGel
08-28-2008, 01:39 AM
prison is the most racist place ive ever been. you stay with your own people or you'll get called the fuck out, and thats a fact. if you do so much as let a black or mexican touch you it causes a world of trouble. if your a white boy trying to slap hands with blacks your not going to be around long.
ohgawdxcarcrash
08-28-2008, 02:09 AM
The worst that they can do here is send someone to rikers island, other than that they send juveniles upstate. you get a individual facility of your own, a bed, toilet, sink, food, and some outside time. i've only been on a school field trip to the one upstate, and it doesnt look that bad since the worse thing a person did in the entire place was kill someone.
my friend, 19, is at rikers island cause his gf's dad called the police after he found out that he had sex with his 14year old daughter. and then the father told the cops that he also did graffiti, and they didnt even hesitate to cuff him. he gave his blackbook to his gf so they used that as evidence, and he also had pics of his work in a seperate book. he has to do another 2years in jail, and then 400 hours of community service, and needs to be at least 50yards away from his gf unless court or the father says other wise.
last time i got to visit was last summer, he told me his cellmate strangled his own daughters, and snuck a spoon back from lunch, and was trying to dig out the guard's eye. the guy failed to do so, so instead he tried to dig out his own.
like i said, the only time i wouldnt ever mind going to jail is if i have no family/food/money/shelter/etc.
MessTonic
08-28-2008, 06:15 AM
yeah my friend is in the county jail...
anti-anti-crime
08-28-2008, 11:52 AM
my step dad went to jail for a couple years for sellin crack to an undercover cop.
fuck that dude.
S4d3n
08-29-2008, 02:40 PM
Pigs pulled me aside while I was in class about 5 years ago, brought me down to the office, I didn't talk, took me to the station 'No Comment' was all I said, after a while I started noticing they were being bitches about it all, I asked if I could call my lawyer (They were surprised I had even mentioned that, no I did not have a lawyer) and they just stopped, drove me back to school, came to my home that evening to apologize and that was that.
If they ever bring you for questioning, just don't tell them anything, don't say anything that could be used to answer a question, if they ask if you're fine, just say 'I'm fine', don't say yes, or no or any of that.
ohgawdxcarcrash
08-29-2008, 03:52 PM
I normally don't say anything cause anything can be used against you, sometimes they even shove words into your mouth. they're willing to lie to get money or get you in trouble. Whenever I'm approached by a cop or an adult i show respect, watch what i say, and i always speak when spoken to.
its mainly like if they were to say: "you know.. i can put you in jail right now for this, but if you just participate, then i might just drop the charges"
i'd say something like: "sir, you can not convict me for something i did not partake in, especially with your alibi being 'probable cause'. it is not your job to determine whether facts and circumstances of YOUR knowledge are sufficient to the actual crime, but false accusations. on the contrary, if you do wish to take this further, than i have no problem with going to court and having the truth be justified."
i know its not a good thing to talk back to an adult especially a cop, but you want them to look pass your age and know that they're not dealing with an idiot. this way, they won't threaten you as much, try anything to make you spill, or convict you of something you didnt do.. or far worse than what you actually did. remember, their worst fear is a well educated person.
Thread-Locks
09-11-2008, 06:51 PM
Me and some friends were smoking green in an ally like in the middle of the day, and a cop rolled up, so we split and of course he comes down the street I took to get back to school. and i was with 2 other people. So then the cop specifically asks for me to come talk to him, the other 2 guys leave, and he's like "So what do you know about some kids smoking dope in that back ally son?" and we had just done like 4 bowls between 5 people so i was pretty baked, and somehow I talked my way out of it, I was just like "Yeah I used to do that stuff, but I got caught at school and suspended (which was true) for it a little while back..." And somehow that idiot bought it.
The funniest part about it was that one of the guys I was with would start sketching balls every time he saw a cop car for like the next 4 months, and we'd just be like "You fucking idiot, the cops aren't after you, you're a fag." so yeah it provided us with laughs for months. oh and cops are douchebags
Hobbes
09-21-2008, 12:42 AM
oh and cops are douchebags
no way?
MontanaPainter
09-21-2008, 01:38 AM
o rlly?
i got an m.i.p. of alcohol by consumption before summer got out. first offence. 20 hours of community service and a 100 dollar fine. and i have to take a class. its so fuckin gay. but i got it easy on the com service cause i had a torn acl and had surgery before and my aunt runs the eagle mount here so i just got to swim with mental kids for 20 hours for my service. it was actually kinda fun. finished it in 3 days.
TrandomnesstwO
04-15-2009, 08:29 PM
Fuckas I just got detained and sent back home but fuck I couldve ran a few meters into the woods...hey I was stoned.
56ACE
04-16-2009, 06:06 PM
me and my older bro got into a fight at my house and someone called the cops i guess and they arrested him cause i had some "marks on me" even though were brothers to took him to gunclub in palm beach for that shit, and let me go, i got popped once in dtown but talked my way out of it to a whackenhut, my whole family hates these southflorida pigs.
BIGel
05-05-2009, 01:57 AM
try a couple years in state prison.
wired_615
05-05-2009, 06:34 AM
i used to live in tampa and they were aways hot like that. they go through so much shit that it dosent matter what you say there is no talking your way out of anything
bigdic
05-05-2009, 10:35 AM
who cares about records you guys are pussys
Slaze
06-10-2009, 02:20 PM
my court appointed laywer got my charges lowered to a "violation of the penal code" whatever that means haha...but basically i have no criminal record but i still had to pay for damages and shit
homes youth training act for the win!
adreniline_zero
06-10-2009, 02:43 PM
indecent exposure
arson (fire-raising as its known here) aparently bonfires on guy fawkes night are illegal
and my favourite "going equiped to vandalise" yeah thats right done for having afew cans of paint in my bag -.- had just bought them too lol
EGO31
06-23-2009, 12:24 AM
try a couple years in state prison.
What for?
KidReny!
06-23-2009, 01:42 AM
real talk not all cops are assholes and are just out to get someone locked up some are pretty chill, but one cop i met tried to hit me for something i didnt do at all and i loved the face he gave when i answered all his questions and everything, it was funny as hell, so be sure to KNOW YOUR RIGHTS KNOW EVERYTHING.
anyway heres how it went down me and my friend was just chillin at the mall right then we decided to go to this little corner area so he could smoke a couple cigs and we could leave, before we walked through parking lot and then all of a sudden i see a cop when i walk around the corner he starts askin me "so what were you doing in the parking lot" i said "walking sir" then he starts tryin to say i was tampering with cars, now remember my friend is right around the corner smoking so i had to stall this cop like crazy so he could put it out and clear the smoke, he asked me "so weres your little short mexican friend you were with" i said "i dont have a mexican friend sir" oh yeah well who were you walking with, i pause for time and look around "and so OHHHH you mean my hispanic friend yeah thats the proper term hes around here would you like to talk to him", cop just walks on by and just as i planned he put the cig out and there was no smoke i was relived now i decided to fuck with the cop, when he was writin us up and calling our names in i start sayin "is this the part when you tell me my rights sir i mean you are supposed to say that sir" cop, "dont tell me how to do my job ill bust ur ass for tampering right here" me " well sir if i was tampering with a car can you remind me what car it was my memory is fuzzy" cop "you know what car you did i dont gotta tell you" me "well sir you saw me touch a car so what color was it atleast" "you know what kid you better stop giving me that smart attitude now tell me right now what you did to that car" me "well sir belive it or not i know im black and you would just to have another black person in your car today but im highly intelligent and know my rights and know i didnt touch that car now belive it or not my mom is a state board director one step under the super intendendent (she really is i used that card with my teachers to) are you sure that i touched that car?" cop "you know what i better not see your ass being suspicous again you hear me?" me " okay sir can i have your name please i wanna tell my mom about the nice officer i met today" cop " piss off kid i better not have to bust your ass again". as he walked away i began to wave to him, what a nice evening and i didnt even use the race card :D
Your friend wouldn't have been in trouble anyway. The law is you can't buy ciggs uf your under 18, but anyone can smoke them. It's wierd
Edit- Well thats the law in NY, I don't know about AZ so maybe I'm worng
dh888
06-23-2009, 04:13 AM
I've got three charges mischief and thief under 5000 I did while I was stoned on scripts. Then I got busted for shoplifting under 5k. It was pretty fucked though I had to spend a night in the holding cell because I did them in consecutive weeks. So a big word of advice be smart when your awaiting trial.
Just awaiting trial right now and I've a 99% chance of getting off with nothing and I mean nothing: no community service, no conviction, no fine.
Apparently in canada, maybe the states to, you can use any mental health issue to get off, if your any on kind of antidepressants or seeking any kind of therapy its a fucking golden ticket. You've just seek out the local mental health consultant at the court house and describe your situation and ask him if he can help you. It doesn't matter if you stuff is real or fake just as long as your acting like its real and "trying" to do something about it. Sometimes they set you up with their agency and you have to go to like solo sessions with someone to "reform your behaviour" but its nothing only lasts like 5-6 weeks. I imagine you could bullshit through it hard enough to get it reduced even more.
Now this probably wouldn't work continuously but its definitely a way to get rid of the odd charge or at least get it reduced.
dreaken1993
06-23-2009, 01:23 PM
never caught cause im a ninja
but got stopped for fucking with the cops, they were in their wagon pulling up the block and me and like 5 friends were walking down the street, we were like halfway when they turn onto it so i was being a dick and walked in the middle of the street till they got like 12 feet away, they passed and we cracked up, then they came around again so i did the same thing, they went by, then i heard that dreaded whoup, they stop when they got past me and told me to come here chubby
-chubby this fool was talking shit
so i went, without any warning they flip me around and handcuff my shit then i asked em what i did and they went through my pockets found my bandana my two mini mops and my gloves they tried to say i was going to go vandalism
*gasp*
i was like i dont know what your talking about those are for my art class
"o realy"
took my name and one got in the car in like 30 seconds he came back and was like there are reports of you doing graffiti
and then he winked to the other cop
uhh ohh
i asked him when these reports were made and where at
then they just stared at me and let me go
dreaken1993
06-23-2009, 01:26 PM
then some east side(rich part) cops pulled out on me cause i was zipping up my jacket
and all i was doing was talking to this girl in her moms car then some lil kids called the cops on us and said we was breaking in the car, all because we told them "take your ass home"
so i told em they had no reason to act in that manner then they asked the girls mom if she said we could be in the car and she said yeas so they let me go
and then i wasnt allowed at her house anymore
cops are cockblockers
hardwares
06-28-2009, 08:07 AM
Your friend wouldn't have been in trouble anyway. The law is you can't buy ciggs uf your under 18, but anyone can smoke them. It's wierd
Edit- Well thats the law in NY, I don't know about AZ so maybe I'm worng
you are wrong. actually it goes between counties not even states. my friend got a "tobacco ticket" in some place right outside where we live. some bullshit.
aaanyway. turned 18 in april. no more criminal record :D
ares*
06-28-2009, 09:11 AM
only got caught stealin a belt when i was like 15. paid 300 dollars for that piece of shit. no court nothin. im almost 19 now and no criminal record yet.
hardwares
06-29-2009, 12:09 AM
yeah i got caught up stealing a $1.99 pentel white (SOME BLLSHIT) and got fined like $200 and had to go to court. that was ghey
thedudeman
06-30-2009, 03:41 PM
felony vandalism with a prior
Snowmonkey117
06-30-2009, 11:57 PM
yeah i got caught up stealing a $1.99 pentel white (SOME BLLSHIT) and got fined like $200 and had to go to court. that was ghey
i thought they couldnt bring you to court bc its under 20 bucks like it says in the constatution.
BigBlueViolence
07-01-2009, 12:22 AM
No dude.
If you steal anything from any store you can get charged with retail fraud, minimum.
Some stores just decide not to press charges under certain circumstances because it's bad for their business
JayAyDubZed
07-01-2009, 04:02 AM
Got caught biking without a helmet once.
EGO31
07-01-2009, 06:45 PM
I aint got nuffink.
Although, my name probably turns up in conjunction with drugs and assaults a lot. wierd....
legal Forum
07-02-2009, 10:03 AM
Criminals are not that easily identified through looks. They can become suspicious by the way they act or the strange things they do but this is not enough to judge someone because you might be wrong. Still, the best ways to be sure and to know that person has the potential to do such crimes is to check their past actions. Past actions are found in their public records where all of these acts were recorded. Details about the person’s wife and the wedding are recorded in marriage records. A man who served in a military together with his honor badges and ranks are recorded in military records. All the details of birth are in birth records. All the past violations, offenses, and serious crimes are listed in criminal records. Aside from these past records, there are other more public records available for access on the Internet.
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EGO31
07-02-2009, 11:29 PM
I think we all just called awful criminals......^^^^
damn, we want to know how to avoid them. I hate spam.
"art threat"
08-28-2009, 04:55 AM
i have no record..
so i usually talk to the cops if we get stopped
Noddles912300
08-28-2009, 06:32 AM
i thought they couldnt bring you to court bc its under 20 bucks like it says in the constatution.
I lol'd.
small retail fraud charge. Fine, probation etc. Nothin serious.
xylene hug
08-28-2009, 02:35 PM
i has huge adult record. from trafficing, assault with a weapon, accomplice to robbery and unlawful discharge of fire arms(1997-2000) but never have i got busted for graff ever..
it does make life harder. i couldnt get a management job until i moved out of provence..
what im trying to say is that its not the end of the world if you have a record after 10 years you can apply for a pardon!
Loki X Sho
08-28-2009, 03:38 PM
i dont get caught
goonzatwork
02-12-2010, 01:25 AM
i got wacked for underage drinkin a few times, possesion, intent to sell/deliver, vandalism(duh), and assault. but that was mostly shit i did when i was a younggg buck so its off my record. good ole PA law
streetology973
02-12-2010, 02:47 AM
vandalism criminal tresspass resisting possesion of narcotics grand theft like 6 charges and 4 charges of armed robbery and im 15 all together did 17 months little hit
massacreman
02-12-2010, 04:50 AM
got caught writing once, public drunk beiing. racking.
Mr.Black
02-17-2010, 08:04 PM
I just got my record expunged....it all depends on what state you live in. Different states have different requirments. I know NY is if you were a juvi.....it has to be 7 years after the crime, with no legal trouble in between. google that shit. you'll find it.
cesspool
02-17-2010, 08:39 PM
yeah i got caught up stealing a $1.99 pentel white (SOME BLLSHIT) and got fined like $200 and had to go to court. that was ghey
ahahahaahaa .
you suck
adelg88
02-23-2010, 12:22 AM
a few years ago, i got charged with Criminal trespassing and defacing private property... didnt have enough $ for a lawyer.. ended up getting the defacing private property dropped all together and the criminal trespassing turned into "public nascence" which is not a felony and just included a fine of $500.00
SETRIXTER
04-13-2010, 06:54 AM
the worst thing ive been pinned for is not buying a train ticket haha
smokeitup
04-14-2010, 12:51 AM
hmm lets see:
not buying train tickets
graffiti on a train station
stealing paint
stealing cds from shops
stealing clothes
possession of marijuana
having loud music going at 2am
assault
etc
im not proud of it, it was all before i was 18.
i always thought your record went clean after your over the age of 18, but no cops can still look up what you've been charged with in the past and use it against you.
viseversa101
04-14-2010, 12:54 AM
disorderly conduct for being drunk n face humping a chick cop
thedudeman
04-14-2010, 02:32 AM
1st time charges were dropped 2nd time i got a misdemeanor conspiracy to commit a crime, felony vandalism. the felony was later dropped down to a misdemeanor and i only got 20 hours of com. service 3rd time i got minor in possesion of vandalism tools and 4th time i got misdemeanor vandalism, misdemeanor fleeing and evading arrest, misdemeanor conspiracy to commit a crime, breaking and entering(i was hiding in somebodies backyard) and destruction of private property(broke their fence) and after kissing alot of ass i only got 30 hours of community service... out of all those charges ive only gotten 50 hours of com. service..... not bad id say
fizzz
06-20-2010, 06:05 PM
assault with a deadly weapon, thats it, ive since learned to control my anger..
cesspool
06-20-2010, 11:18 PM
thats good :)
NosE2
06-21-2010, 01:17 PM
2 possesions, sound amplification/noise ordianance (fuckin bumpppinnn!!! love my type-r's...and an ovi...never been caught racking or writing knock on wood
iPwnF00lz
08-04-2010, 10:41 PM
I was just informed that I have 3 counts of something that makes a felony on top of my criminal mischief bs I'm still paying fines for..
I was charged and never apprehended for it and was just informed about it now, does that mean they scanned my name into the record?
killroywashere
08-05-2010, 12:58 AM
i just had court last week.
was busted by the cops fer vandalism and got tazed 5 times
freeze means run until you get dropped haha
but randomly they dropped all the charges and gave me a trespassing charge instead which luckily is only a 150 dollar fine
getting busted as a kid is worse
I racked up possession, vandalism, underages, trespassing, and every person i know who has been arrested always gets that criminal mischief thrown on there
disorderly conduct for being drunk n face humping a chick cop
all day err day
Romikxx
08-05-2010, 12:51 PM
2 Possession charges
1 Assault
5 Destruction of State Property
1 Manslaughter
1 Grand Larceny
why the fuck did you get tazed 5 times
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