Blackbook Techs, Tips, and Tuts.

[(SoS)Viruz]

I see a lot of questions that are asked such as.......
"What makers do you use"
"How do you blend them"
"How do you do cracks"
"Do you use paint on your sketches"
"How do you get such fine lines"
BLAH BLAH BLAH
Toy questions or not they are commonly asked. So I felt we should have a thread dedicated on answering and helping out with those commonly asked questions.

As you all know their are different Techniques. Such as:

-Tracing paper(Transferring your sketch to furter ink it with out the mess)
-Blending markers
-Using Oil Based paint for fine DETAILS (Artist like Cortes)
-Proper Marker usage, for less streaking.
-Preservative for those 3D style or even for Drop shadows
-Many more!!!:cool:
*******So fill free everyone to post those tutorials and lets get it started******


(I start off with something I found)
This Tutorial, if used correctly, can help you ALOT in adjusting your graff pieces. If you dont understand it, look closely at the examples... Examine each diagram carefully, and apply it to your pieces to make them look as if they are in different angles..


One Point Perspective
One point perspective takes one of the three sets of parallel lines of the cube and projects them to a point, a VANISHING POINT. We will say this is the North direction. The other two sets of lines of the cube continue to run parallel and unaltered. This vanishing point can also be considered where your eye is located in relation to objects found on this page. This location of the eye or (vanishing point) becomes the place where cubes shift across in space to show their opposite side, from right to left and from above you to below you.
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc194/DoubleM41/BS%20Battles/onepointperspec_drawing1.jpg


Two Point Perspective


Two point perspective uses two of these three sets of parallel lines of the cube. It projects one set of parallel lines to the North point and the second set of parallel lines to the East vanishing point. In two point perspective, the third set of lines continues to run parallel. In this case, they run straight up and down. Notice the two points we are using, North and East, are 90 degrees of our horizon. This HORIZON LINE is also the EYE LEVEL LINE. The eye is better to use because if you are underground or in outer space there is no such thing as a horizon but there is always a location of your eyes (eye level).
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc194/DoubleM41/BS%20Battles/twopointperspec_drawing.jpg

(I'll finish up in a bit)

[(SoS)Viruz]

Three Point Perspective
Three point perspective uses all three sets of parallel lines of the cube. Similar to two point perspective, one of the sets of parallel lines aims toward the North point and the other set aims toward the East point. The third set of lines projects toward the Nadir point (below you) or the Zenish point (above you). Either Zenith or Nadir can be used with the same grid by spinning the three point perspective grid 180 degrees. You can project all of these lines with a straight edge.
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc194/DoubleM41/BS%20Battles/threepointperspec_drawing.gif



Four Point Perspective
Four point perspective can be thought of in a couple of different ways. First, we use the same logic it takes to get to three point perspective. But if the cube we are looking at is very tall and projects above you and also goes below your eye level, these up and down lines must project toward two points. Not only does the cube look fat in the middle, it also seems to get smaller as it goes above and below your eye level. These lines, which used to be the up and down parallel lines of the cube, are now curving in like a football coming together at the Zenith and Nadir points. If you were on the twentieth floor of a skyscraper, looking out the window at another skycscraper, forty stories high, you would see this type of effect.
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc194/DoubleM41/BS%20Battles/fourpointperspec_drawing.gif



Five Point Perspective
This system of perspective, using five points, creates a circle on a piece of paper or canvas. You now can illustrate 180 degrees of visual space around you. It captures everything from North to South and from Nadir to Zenith. Think of yourself inside a really exciting visual environment like St. Peter's Basilica in Rome. You bring a transparent hemisphere with you. When you find a spot in the Basilica where any direction you look is visually exciting, you put the hemisphere in front of your face and copy what you see on the inside of it. The hemisphere shows five vanishing points, north, on the left, east in the middle and south on the right. There is also a point above your head and another below your chin. One hundred and eighty degrees of the total environment can be drawn in this hemisphere. Think of how this would look on the flat surface. You would have to rely on five point grid system on the flat page to do the same thing, but it really will work.
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc194/DoubleM41/BS%20Battles/fivepointperspec_drawing.gif

[STFUPPERCUT]

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c171/m0rph3d/graff/Untitled-1.jpg

posted this a while back a simple tut for a marker

I used the casing from a single cigarillo and cut part of the nib out of my sharpie magnum ( chalk board eraser works just as well)

and follow the ball point pen ink tutorial in the ink recipe thread, decent marker works good in my book and for tagging ( although it does fade in the sun)

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[408Bomber]

this thread is gunna turn up really good.

- If you guys don't wanna mess up you'r blackbook pages when filling in a piece or whatever keep like 3-5 pieces of scratch paper under you'r sheet so the markers don't bleed onto you're other pages and mess up your pages for future projects.

- Learn what makers bleed the most on blackbook pages.( BB pages are usualy thicker than normal white paper so they won't absorb the marker so much)

[massacreman]

click for a blending tutorial which is stolen but okay (http://learngraffiti.net/basic_blending_2.htm)

BLENDING

[CrAzOnEr!]

damn man you stole a tut really?o.0

[massacreman]

damn man you stole a tut really?o.0

fo real. im so badass

[408Bomber]

best tip of all...

- Don't let you'r friends hit up you're books whenever they feel like it.

[my.favorite.addiction]

Why not?
unless you have some wack friends//

[massacreman]

indeed, my friend is my #1 biter, he does every style the same as i do, just plain dumb

[408Bomber]

Why not?
unless you have some wack friends//
exactley... 1 of my friends used to hit up my book like it was his. he would do shit and be like "aww i messed up" like wdf?

[n8galicia]

yo 408, you from the bay?

[Scratch]

For White Lines and Highlights..

You can use the paint like Cortes does, or for a cheaper solution you can just use white gel pens. Jelly Roll whites work the best, easily rackable by the millions.

^i think people should bold face summarize their posts in this too to keep it organized, just a thought.

[TrandomnesstwO]

I visited Toronto one week in August.I got on a benzo binge and let a writer who was very toy back then draw some shizzle on a page.He drew some then ripped one page out quick the started drawing some other whack shizzle.Then he proceeded to try to rip out that page too because he messed up on a tiny little thow on the centre of the page.I cam to my senses and stopped him but now that page is half ripped and unusable.
Thank the lord he got better.

[408Bomber]

more tips folks! Were a community. We gotta help out.

[BlacktodaFuture]

RANDOM SHIT!

when drawing in pencil, draw light (obviousy)

deco whites will take the pencil marks to make a gray color, more pencil lead, grayer the color. so either watch out for that or use it to your advantage

use a varaity of markers, do your homework on them and learn the differences. deco and prisma are very different.

learn what bleeds, (prob already mentioned but keep 5-6 papers behind black book pages if coloring bc of bleed)

you can erase pencil, you cant erase marker.

[goonzatwork]

More Random Shit

When sketching something out(especially a peice that has a lot of bars and extentions), it's always a good idea to start with pencil.

Having a set of these around dosent hurt either, http://www.utrechtart.com/images/products/brandpages/generalPENCILsets_lg.jpg. Different pencils are a different conentration of graphite thus going from lighter to darker with each pencil, and are pretty benificial when you want darker or lighter lines and dont want smudges or your pencil breaking.

If you're planning on doing a coloured peice in your book, (or a coloured anything for that matter), after your pencil sketch is finished, you may want to outline THAT sketch in a dark coloured pen, to keep your basic outlines nice and sharp. Get a blank peice of scrap paper or two(depending on how bad your markers bleed), and put your scrap paper behind the page your drawing on. (this prevents bleeding onto other blank pages in your book, so you conserve space in your book.)

If you havent fucked with using PrismaColor Coloured Pencils, i actually do reccomend them. They are great for providing some contrast in your peices when shading and blending is a little bit easier with the pencils. But, it's YOUR book, so play around with different things. Never be afraid to experiment and think outside the box when your blackbooking.

[Sizzuurp]

if you don't have paint markers and you want your outline to be a much lighter color than your fill is there a technique to that. or do u just do the outline and then the fill very carefully.

[umop 3pisdn]

I used to draw my pieces, and paint my pieces completely different. I could draw them, and they'd always look acceptable, but when i painted them, I could never get them to come out right. Then I found out how to fix it. Paint your pieces like you draw them.

When I drew them I'd do the outline left to right, then do the fill in left to right, then final outline left to right. but when i painted, i'd always mix it up. It's much easier to stick to what you know. Also, if you're going to take your sketch with you to a wall, make notes on the difficult parts. I'll circle parts where I know i'll have to cut back lines, or where parts overlap and can get confusing.

I don't know if that helps.

[rone]

for blackbooks i use crayons and sometimes colored pencils for that "toy" look. and if i want to spice it up, ill use my safety sissors, and my non-toxic glue, and paste it in my "blackbook". whatever that is..

[rone]

I used to draw my pieces, and paint my pieces completely different. I could draw them, and they'd always look acceptable, but when i painted them, I could never get them to come out right. Then I found out how to fix it. Paint your pieces like you draw them.

really, cause i usually do it totally diffrent, and ponder"why doesnt it look like the sketch?" with like a retard face

[massacreman]

rone u not that coo so dont act like it

http://www.thermofaxscreens.co.uk/images/ready-made/CR1-Cracks1.gif

draw cracks like this

[(SoS)Viruz]

Coloring a Piece by ALTS

]right here is a step by step (please cut the bullshit everyone your ruining the thread)
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj259/decyferone/DSC02517.jpg
outlined with fineliner
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj259/decyferone/DSC02518.jpg
bit of background
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj259/decyferone/DSC02520.jpg
filled the letters with base colour
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj259/decyferone/DSC02521.jpg
bit of detail in the fill
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj259/decyferone/DSC02522.jpg
more detail
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj259/decyferone/DSC02524.jpg
lil more detail in fill and background
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj259/decyferone/DSC02525.jpg
outlined
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj259/decyferone/DSC02526.jpg
doubled up outline, shadow and highlights
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj259/decyferone/DSC02527.jpg
finished article, Duke exchange

[408Bomber]

Sickness!

[one.seven.one.]

When i first start sketching i use a drafting pencil because its easy to erase and it comes out really light. they are a little expensive to buy but they work nice.

[prefer]

my advice for blackbooks is plan stuff out becuase if you dont it could be a disaster really, it sucks when you go through whole blackbooks becuasde you couldnt settle on a idea

[408Bomber]

Come on people post more tips!

anybody know any go0d techniques when coloring with prismas how to make you'r colors not mix/blend/bleed into eachother?

[408Bomber]

http://www.prismacolor.com/sanford/consumer/prismacolor/mystudio/flashPopup.jhtml?flash=marker.swf

prisma tutorial.

[pleasedontstayr]

this thread really died fast, shame

[REIGNSUPREME814]

Coloring a Piece by ALTS

]right here is a step by step (please cut the bullshit everyone your ruining the thread)

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj259/decyferone/DSC02527.jpg
finished article, Duke exchange

how do you get the white highlights to pop like this and stay so white? I use decos and my white highlights always let the color underneath bleed through. Maybe I need a different marker for white or something I should try some prismas

[massacreman]

use a white out

[CanalSt]

http://www.cardcraftplus.co.uk/acatalog/GRP03.jpg
great for the highlights.
Some prisma tips, probably apply to other similar markers.
If you want a color in between two colors you have, fill in with the lighter color then with the darker. this is why you are an idiot if you buy more than a 48 pack, you cannot be that lazy.
If you have the color you have already and want to shade it with that 3d look, buy(or rack) a 20% cool grey and a 40% cool grey or warm (personal preference) and then use the base color for the lightest, then after that use the 20 on the platform wich it corresponds to then the 40 on the last. do this even if the colors of the sides are different so it gives it that not shit look.

[EsKoNeR!!]

just rock pens son. make the sketchyness of the pen freestyle strokes part of the style itself. straight pen freestyles are the illest around. and dont ri pages out of your book ever. every little bit ads character. if you dont like the first little bit of a sketch, just keep going. if you really cant, then comeback to it later. dont just tear it out your book. shit is bunk

[CanalSt]

just rock pens son. make the sketchyness of the pen freestyle strokes part of the style itself. straight pen freestyles are the illest around. and dont ri pages out of your book ever. every little bit ads character. if you dont like the first little bit of a sketch, just keep going. if you really cant, then comeback to it later. dont just tear it out your book. shit is bunk

I highly respect anyone with the patience to do staight pen strokes for a big piece

[phoe]

I highly respect anyone with the patience to do staight pen strokes for a big piece

BUMMMMMMMMP^^

STRAIGHT pen art is where its at. such a tedious job though.

[(SoS)Viruz]

word. It really just takes practice. And I steady and. I know some ppl who only use markers when they sketch...They use usper light highlighters, AND then go on top of those lines....Its looks dope....But I mean shit I can't do that......

One way you could practice tho. I try doing boxes with markers and try to keep your lines as clean as possible

[memphisbleak2133]

http://www.cardcraftplus.co.uk/acatalog/GRP03.jpg
great for the highlights.
Some prisma tips, probably apply to other similar markers.
If you want a color in between two colors you have, fill in with the lighter color then with the darker. this is why you are an idiot if you buy more than a 48 pack, you cannot be that lazy.
If you have the color you have already and want to shade it with that 3d look, buy(or rack) a 20% cool grey and a 40% cool grey or warm (personal preference) and then use the base color for the lightest, then after that use the 20 on the platform wich it corresponds to then the 40 on the last. do this even if the colors of the sides are different so it gives it that not shit look.

were can i get that looks sick

[ZombieGutz]

dont rip pages out of your book ever. every little bit ads character. if you dont like the first little bit of a sketch, just keep going. if you really cant, then comeback to it later. dont just tear it out your book. shit is bunk

I highly agree with that last statement!

[graffart2580]

These are just some random tips, but watever, it can help people
some times its good to erase the pencil wen colouring in the piece.
wen using decos, be very careful and patient, because sometimes they leak, and they can really fuck up your pieces.
i have to say some times the best type of markers to use wen black book sketching, it would prolly be alchohol based markers (thats just my opinion) such as "le plume" and "touch markers". and wen using markers, ALWAYS do the darker value over the lighter value, otherwise your piece can turn out fucky

[graffart2580]

I highly agree with that last statement!

you are pretty good man, jus keep sketching, and remember internet is key, alwayss keep practising, and you will get there

[SoZoner]

Nice post tips guys