View Full Version : ironlak vs. montana?
3ksta...c
10-08-2009, 12:28 PM
whats better paint, ironlak or montana? (if montana is, then is montana gold better then ironlak?)
"Mafi"
10-08-2009, 01:42 PM
Use the search.
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ilikekicks
10-08-2009, 02:29 PM
dicks
jape-the-nape
10-08-2009, 04:48 PM
ironlak,duh.
CAN-KILLER
10-08-2009, 05:37 PM
ironlak montana is wack and not worth the money at all
EST2007
10-08-2009, 05:42 PM
but i fuckin hate how ironlak bleeds thru rusto
Bombing With Insurance
10-08-2009, 10:36 PM
ironlak is better and cheaper.
thats why bombingscience dropped Montana and went with ironlak
{Kandi~Boy~Raver}
10-08-2009, 11:37 PM
although montana 94 is like a rip of ironlak
PeeInTheShower
10-09-2009, 03:32 PM
i hate this annoying ass question. rustos are best, they're free, and they get the job done.
XXORtsald
10-09-2009, 08:53 PM
your ALL wrong, if your a real writer, everyone knows monster and CLASH ARE THE BEST!
http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss4/blastroxx/l_81bbd6d1cd754ac68ac853db57dcd634.jpg
EGO31
10-11-2009, 06:36 AM
To quote queens of the stone age^^^^^ ''Everybody know's that you're insane.''
IRONLAK FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Though there are good points for montana gold.
west-dmk
10-11-2009, 09:27 AM
i hate this annoying ass question. rustos are best, they're free, and they get the job done. true that
west-dmk
10-11-2009, 09:34 AM
and what montana are we talking about spanish or german?
charles bronson
10-16-2009, 09:57 PM
im a fan of ironlak shit is dope
ill never go back to using anything else. unless its rusto silvers or something from my dollar spot
benitoamanito
10-17-2009, 01:22 PM
you guys are all lame..... ironlak is good for the price, but paint wize, MTN hardcores and 94's all the way... trust
west-dmk
10-17-2009, 01:30 PM
i love ironlak just got some of my first cans from my local shop and ther awsome, but theyre made in china and thats why theyr so cheap. im kinda against unfair labor...
west-dmk
10-17-2009, 01:36 PM
illadelstylez.net u get mtn hardcore for 5.00 a piece (now they have belton hp and 600ml burners) most shops sell ironlak for 5.25-6.00 (u.s.d.) and most shops sell mtn hardcore for more than $6.50 a can. but all orders at illadel over $75 ship for free in u.s. so u save money buying mtn over ironlak in local and online shops. i dont mean to advertise but illadel is just awsome for anyone in the northeast u.s.
Dont Post my flix
10-17-2009, 01:46 PM
MTN is better paint then ironlak.
JayAyDubZed
10-19-2009, 02:49 AM
MTN is better paint then ironlak.
No, its not.
benitoamanito
10-21-2009, 05:07 PM
No, its not.
how can you even say this? ironlak smells gross, and imho might be some kind of latex base........ and fuck, mtn nitro's take that shit out anyday.
del4sel
10-21-2009, 05:12 PM
montana cans for 8.75, damn! gimme ironlak for 5, please.
thechapps
10-21-2009, 05:37 PM
ironlak! Some of the montana gold colours are crazy but, if ya need more colours that ironlak don't have go with belton molotow's
-Dank-DK-
10-21-2009, 11:14 PM
shit
the way every one is talkin
thank god i just got 25 cans of some ironlk
##sable##
10-22-2009, 02:59 PM
is belton worth the extra cost over ironlak? im bout to order 25 cans
reser
10-22-2009, 03:51 PM
ironlak is dope, but there are a couple of shit colors, and belton is just in an other class then other brands.. so if money is not an issue get belton
##sable##
10-22-2009, 03:52 PM
well money isnt an issue, but i could get a fucking grip of ironlak for a little pinch of belton.
imm get a couple of each and try them to compare.
Bombing With Insurance
10-22-2009, 06:26 PM
how can you even say this? ironlak smells gross, and imho might be some kind of latex base........ and fuck, mtn nitro's take that shit out anyday.
Your an idiot, it says on the side that its acrylic and it smells like candy my man.
Smells gooodd
benitoamanito
10-22-2009, 06:53 PM
candy mixed with straight ass poison... :)
JMANN.23.HTK
10-23-2009, 04:36 AM
ironlak montana is wack and not worth the money at all
Agreed...
.nolove.
10-23-2009, 11:44 AM
ive never used either but ive heard good things about both.but more so with ironlak.idk id much rather just use rusto.i mean you can just rack rustoleum and save you money for things that are important like weed and booze.and hookers.
sincewhen
10-23-2009, 12:51 PM
after your done with the hookers just kill em and get your money back, gta style
.nolove.
10-23-2009, 01:26 PM
thats a stupid idea.if im gonna kill them anyways why would i pay them to begin with? you fail since.
sidandnancy
10-25-2009, 07:52 PM
ironlak: fades.
rusto: doesn't.
montana: doesn't
rusto: easily racked or obtained for a dollar.
ironlak: never less than $5.50 (when you add shipping)
montana: $$$$$
rusto= classic.
forreal how can you say you would rather have a can of $6 montana over 6 rustos?
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11-10-2009, 08:24 AM
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dangeri
11-11-2009, 09:02 AM
i like 94's and ironlak myself (even tho i have had about 10 or so faulty ironlak's) but being from the uk dont get to play with rusto's, but for a doller a go i'd be all over them! and as for montana gold's, i think i'd rarther poke myself in the eye, they dont have very good cover, and fade when they do, awesome colour spectrum tho (particularly the opaque ones), and the cans look pretty too, if thats what your into :)
TrandomnesstwO
11-15-2009, 10:48 PM
Im planning to get ironlaks.Montanas are as cheap as a beach out of gold.
charles bronson
11-16-2009, 08:52 PM
my boy got 2 pallets of ironlak so im payin 3 bucks a can from him. cant beat that price
although has anyone used the gold or silver from them? they dont got shit on rusto silver or even dollar store gold
that shit is ass
AoAssis
11-16-2009, 09:11 PM
why is montana even being compared to ironlak?
tattooyou516
11-17-2009, 04:10 AM
Ironlak paint shop coming soon to long island...call (347)254-2988 for questions
tattooyou516
11-17-2009, 04:13 AM
Ironlak paint shop coming soon to long island...call (347)254-2988 for questions
weakfingers
11-17-2009, 02:18 PM
I just got the chance to try ironlak. But theres so comparison, two diffrent paints, two diffrent pressures and diffrent colours. Just paint with both, why limit yourself yaknow?
beads0129
02-03-2010, 03:04 AM
You cannot control the weather, but you can change your mood. _____________________Loose beads (http://www.wholesalebeadshop.com)
Ironlak is the bomb, haha get it?
zennegen
02-03-2010, 07:07 AM
I just got the chance to try ironlak. But theres so comparison, two diffrent paints, two diffrent pressures and diffrent colours. Just paint with both, why limit yourself yaknow?
lol, because most people don't have money to buy both.
FrEEk_nine-o-fizzle
02-03-2010, 09:07 AM
IRONLAK SMELLS LIKE SHIT! while montana gold smells like candy.
other than that tho ironlak is the better paint hands down
kasher_one
02-03-2010, 09:46 AM
^^
na i think montana hardcore haves to be my fav along wit black line..the only ironlak i use tall tar black cans
zennegen
02-03-2010, 02:56 PM
i wanna try out that tar black lak. as for montana, it sucks cause they dont come with caps, but the lines are generally cleaner. but lak is better for piecing.
MekMoney
02-03-2010, 03:00 PM
I don't know where you get your paint from but when i get montana it always comes with caps...tan caps on the gold, german outlines on black and german 3's on 94. You're getting ripped off homie.
I think MTN 94 is better than any paint out at the moment. Lak is ok but the cans are always fucked up and the pressure is inconsistant...it also doesn't cover as good as 94 or hardcore. Not saying its shit paint but there are better products out there...the only good thing about lak is the price but i'm sure it will go up soon.
MekMoney
02-03-2010, 03:15 PM
I think this thread is kind of destined to fail. If everyone liked one brand of paint than there would be only one paint company. Life is about options...every likes what they are gonna like. Its the end result that makes the difference anyway.
ViniVidiVici
04-21-2010, 02:53 PM
I have to go with MTN, I haven't tried Ironlak that much really though, so I'm not gonna start claiming that MTN is the best paint in the whole world or anything. But where the hell are all of you buying your MTN that it's costing you 8.50 or whatever a can?!?! that's ridiculous. I'm about to but 29 cans for 161 dollars, shipping and all included. that's 5.50...
eL.kORE.ONE
04-21-2010, 07:23 PM
i would say ironlak all the way homies...they are pretty much the same god damn thing man..
jape-the-nape
04-21-2010, 07:34 PM
i would like to see someone try rock the exact piece twice with bothe brands,i think the difference would be clear..they bothe have theyre good qualitys and the outcome is great with either...but i think ironlak is just easier to use pressure wise,but thats just personal.i allways go for a different look using different brands of paint
ViniVidiVici
04-21-2010, 07:54 PM
Yeah I guess, it really is all personal choice. I mean it's all good, Ironlak and MTN, I wouldn't really care which I used... at least it's not Krylon haha.
BLUNTEDROUNDTHACLOCK
04-21-2010, 08:42 PM
who the fuck uses krylon who you seriously order the cans offline?
but ironlak is dope as hell an cheapish
works really nice...doesnt really drip at all
ViniVidiVici
04-21-2010, 11:24 PM
hahaha no man I wasn't saying I buy Krylon online hahahaha. I was talking about quality. it was a joke... well not really, cuz Krylon does suck.
pilerskee
04-21-2010, 11:32 PM
if anyone here was using ironlaks in Aus in there first few years starting up and before they went to the states then that question would be a joke. Ironlaks have come a long way..but i think that i depends what your after, coverage..derr ironlaks, colour range..well your going to go for montanas. I get ironlaks cause im an aussie and thats what ive always used pretty much, i just miss there old smell :)
Kayone707
04-23-2010, 02:21 AM
Ironlak hands down.
Although i never tried the new MTN 94 cans.
BLUNTEDROUNDTHACLOCK
04-23-2010, 08:38 AM
I fuckin love the smell of ironlak shits like candy
markingz.
04-23-2010, 12:32 PM
haha, paint smells like shit man what you talkin bout
Phat 2
04-24-2010, 01:11 PM
who even gives a fuck about what paint smells like ?
you buying them cans to smell em or to paint with em ?
wear a gasmask if your delicate lady nostrils are too gentle to be fucked by spray fumes
funhouseXcast
04-24-2010, 01:55 PM
true eight up there^ but personally i think ironlak smells plasticy and i like the smell of cheap paint better. i'm talking about old school krylon and rusto.
i have some ironlak right now and i really like the consistency, great covering.
Phat 2
04-24-2010, 02:34 PM
the thing is I tried montana, and it's great, but really expensive yeah.
I have yet to try some ironlaks... these are getting really good reviews and a lot of writers are switching from montana and even beltons sometimes to ironlaks
but I guess it's like guy said: it's a matter of personal preference, and I totally agree with that
smokeitup
04-26-2010, 04:36 AM
i cant believe someone would use an ironlak instead of a belton, wtf are you thinking?
personally i've never used montana, but for the price i would expect it to be good. i mainly use ironlak coz its aussie and cheap.
viseversa101
04-26-2010, 04:44 AM
mostana>ironlak...kill this fuckin thread, il never reply again
Zookyook
04-26-2010, 07:00 AM
i have no problems with lak... mtn is better quality but its thinner and drips more and costs more, lak is thicker cheaper and easier to paint pieces with... so itd be stupid to only choose one brand of paint... im sure even people sponsored by ironlak use other brands and "vise versa"... like how i did that? lol
and i like ironlak white better than belton or mtn white... am i crazy?
94 yellow is the shit too just tried that out... pretty sure 94 has the best coverage of anything ive ever used... not a lot of colors though
Phat 2
04-26-2010, 09:47 AM
smokeitup I didn't say I'd rather use ironlak than belton... read what I wrote again dude
smokeitup
04-26-2010, 10:16 AM
woops. typo. meant to say what are they thinking.
SmoothOne
04-30-2010, 04:43 PM
i have no problems with lak... mtn is better quality but its thinner and drips more and costs more, lak is thicker cheaper and easier to paint pieces with... so itd be stupid to only choose one brand of paint... im sure even people sponsored by ironlak use other brands and "vise versa"... like how i did that? lol
and i like ironlak white better than belton or mtn white... am i crazy?
94 yellow is the shit too just tried that out... pretty sure 94 has the best coverage of anything ive ever used... not a lot of colors though
I don't know where you shop for 94s but there's a lot of colors available for 94s. I think by far Montana 94s and Montana Aliens are the easiest to spray with especially when doing high detailed pieces. I love Ironlak for the price and the availability. You can always find a store with Lak around here in So Cal. 94s are always running out. You just can't beat the price for Ironlak though.
Ironlak covers well but you are right, Montanas and even Beltons have great coverage with a single layer of paint.
SpeekOner
05-20-2010, 01:48 PM
Ironlak Reloaded smells SUPER GOOD and I'm an Iroklak fan all the way and if you wanna drop big bucks talk to their rep they will give you a great deal on alot of paint... Don't too much like the valve system on the reloaded though i can't get some tips to work on them... But overall The best Paint I have used!!!
Zookyook
05-20-2010, 03:08 PM
I don't know where you shop for 94s but there's a lot of colors available for 94s. I think by far Montana 94s and Montana Aliens are the easiest to spray with especially when doing high detailed pieces. I love Ironlak for the price and the availability. You can always find a store with Lak around here in So Cal. 94s are always running out. You just can't beat the price for Ironlak though.
Ironlak covers well but you are right, Montanas and even Beltons have great coverage with a single layer of paint.
ur right i just checked artprim0 and they have mad colors... i guess the last time i bought 94 it was a new product and they only had like 20 colors when it first came out...... i love alien cans though, great for highlights and outlines, and put a pink dot on that bitch and they can flare with the best of em...
lak does have the best price but there as it was brought up before laks are 11oz. cans and both mtn and belton are 12oz... so u arent saving as MUCH money as u think, but ur still saving
wasted1
05-20-2010, 03:17 PM
id point of some facts about montana. montana is heavy paint with fast drying , old montana smelled like candy indeed, new montanas are even better with coverate, better color tones, montanas cap system is amazing. the pressure is exelent what lets you work on little details without need of cut. about ironlak. iv never tried it but i wish i would but we dont have this paint imported here yet.. ironlak seems exelent on videos, pictures
wasted1
05-20-2010, 03:17 PM
also you can order most of paint from storages.. i dont know the exact english word for it.. but i think you know what i mean. its usually cheaper there and you can buy bulk amounts very cheap
Zookyook
05-20-2010, 03:29 PM
we would call those wholesale warehouses or something... most of us writers is po' folk though lol so its not really an option... ill use anything i can get a hold of pretty much
Stoked2PaintNY
05-30-2010, 04:59 PM
its called 94 cuz guess how many colors they have??? places u guys get ur paint from prob just didnt have every color in stock
4ENOD
05-30-2010, 05:03 PM
my buddys buddy just got 700 cans of ironlak! an he's sellin em' 5 dollars Canadian a piece!
SHAMWOW!
so ima hit him up this week!
Flash_One
05-30-2010, 05:28 PM
ironlak becuase of the price
Aesir
05-30-2010, 08:13 PM
Spanish montana for the fucking win. 94 + hardcore are both pretty orgasmic. 94 is epic for peicing and the smell ain't gunna make you wanna punch a baby like ironlak does.
weakfingers
05-31-2010, 11:42 AM
Does anyone notice that the NY fats that come with ironlak aint that fat, I find the pink one that comes with the can works just as well, The only cans that the ny fat is atually fat with are the black and silver, any other colour just isent that big.
BLUNTEDROUNDTHACLOCK
05-31-2010, 11:45 AM
well ny fats are wack really
you lookin for fats caps for ironlak or just any can
cuz if you got any highpressure can toss the pink dot on or rusto fats
for the low pressure they aint really made for bombing but the best cap for fills would prolly be the ny fat i cant even really think of any other caps that can even with on em
Phillip McDougall
05-31-2010, 12:32 PM
Ironlak and Montana are completely different.
Ironlak is low pressure. Ironlak is awesome and easy to piece with, smells good, clean, good coverage.
Spanish Montana (the only Montana worth using, in my opinion), has both low pressure and high pressure paint. 94 is low, Hardcore is high. Good coverage, nice and thick, and an awesome set of colors. The reason we don't usually see Montana around here is because it's expensive.
We're all Kilz and Rusto.
I'd take a free box of Hardcore before a free box of Ironlak any day though.
zacharychao
06-01-2010, 01:28 PM
for the price ironlak wins
Shitrock Finklestein
06-01-2010, 03:51 PM
Ironlak is the shit!
I usually use tremclad (Canadian Rusto) for my fill and use the Ironlak for details, outlines and highlights. I love the white and black. The smell is a little weird, but once I have my mask on it don't really matter anyways. The way I see it, it's less likely some hero is gonna walk by and smell 'spray paint', instead its just some weird smell they don't recognize.
I have used the caps they come with without problems (as long as you shake the shit outta it for about 5 minutes), as well as grey and orange dots.
stylz 27
06-07-2010, 10:25 PM
yo fuck ironlak,montana is better 4sure anyone who says ironlak is better don't know what there talkin bout,ez
MASE P_2s
06-07-2010, 10:44 PM
ironlak all day
KillzOne
06-07-2010, 10:45 PM
^^^^^^Ummm Cheaper.....Ummmmm more pigment....IDK but I like to pay what I get for
Astrob
06-10-2010, 09:07 AM
IRONLAK is hella better, it has more coverage and it's cheap as hell. Montana is good but it costs so damn much for a couple of cans.
genkside1
06-10-2010, 09:13 PM
ironlak are cheaper but both are really dope!
the only thing is ironlak paint fades away weeks later
SEES 2
06-10-2010, 11:03 PM
ironlak are cheaper but both are really dope!
the only thing is ironlak paint fades away weeks later
are u kidding? ironlak lasts months as far as i know. shake the can and dont do shitty fills and youll agree
game...
06-19-2010, 04:00 PM
montana cans for 8.75, damn! gimme ironlak for 5, please.
yo... i get montanas for $6...
4ENOD
06-20-2010, 02:40 AM
my buddy just got some ironlak and it was spraying out like sillystring!
Shitrock Finklestein
06-23-2010, 04:13 PM
You gotta shake that shit up real good. I shake my cans for a good 3-4 minutes and still usually get a second or two of silly string at the beginning. Sucks when it plugs your cap! After that, it's all good tho.
Subconcious
06-24-2010, 01:04 AM
Look at the amount of posts everybody up there has^^^ Lol. XD
Anyway... Ironlak. Period.
Shitrock Finklestein
06-24-2010, 07:21 PM
Does the amount of posts somebody has relate to their ability to write?
I have serious doubts some of you mouthpieces ever touch a can.
CanalSt
06-24-2010, 09:28 PM
Ironlak and Montana are completely different.
Ironlak is low pressure. Ironlak is awesome and easy to piece with, smells good, clean, good coverage.
Spanish Montana (the only Montana worth using, in my opinion), has both low pressure and high pressure paint. 94 is low, Hardcore is high. Good coverage, nice and thick, and an awesome set of colors. The reason we don't usually see Montana around here is because it's expensive.
We're all Kilz and Rusto.
I'd take a free box of Hardcore before a free box of Ironlak any day though.
True. Any product that german montana makes, spanish makes better and cheaper.
Captain Hook
07-26-2010, 06:00 PM
ironlak is way better. yes montana has more colors but ironlak goes on clean and bright the first coat. no second coats needed. as far as the sill string is concerned, that is supposed to happen. its one of the chemicals that keeps the ppaint inside nice and fresh
sabotaz 80. 4$ a can at ****artltd and it fuckin rules. fuck MTN although ironlak is nice. MTN is overrated as fuck, buy it if you like paying for a brand-name
SoZoner
09-06-2010, 09:32 AM
yo fuck ironlak,montana is better 4sure anyone who says ironlak is better don't know what there talkin bout,ez
says the guy with the belton can XD
Slaze
09-12-2010, 02:14 PM
uhhh, Belton:D
Siptester
09-12-2010, 03:14 PM
Rustos ftw.
I ordered a shitload of the new Ironlak cans and the Reloads recently. A few of the Reload cans were giving me a real hard time. The cap like popped off 2 cans and paint started spraying out of the valve. The rest worked well though.
DECO ONE
09-13-2010, 12:57 AM
OK.. here is my input.. IRONLAK... by far the best value for the dollar... goes on clean and smooth.. low pressure makes it amazing for piecing... montana is good paint.. but its NOT worth what they charge for it.. i would take ironlak or sabotaz over montana anyday... but REAL *****s learn to piece with Rusto or tremclad... if you cant rock a piece with solid paint like rusto.. you dont deserve to even TRY piecing with a paint designed for graffiti.. that is basically cheating and skipping over Key steps us Real writers go through.. i would take free rusto over ANYTHING paid for..
Prodigy22
09-13-2010, 01:01 AM
I gotta go with montana for most, but really large scale I like Ironlak
oneztwo3
09-15-2010, 09:42 PM
real men use rusto!
STARPLAYER
09-19-2010, 10:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpQHnXlnjw8
fizzz
09-22-2010, 02:51 PM
kinda a toy question but i've always used rustos and now i wanna expand in color. so, do ironlak cans take male or female caps?
Karl Malowned.
09-22-2010, 04:07 PM
not sure where you dudes buy your rusto but thast shit si around 4.99 a can here. so why would i buy new rusto with their weak color selection when i can get ironlak for almost the same price. nothing against rusto but its not worth 5 a can. what do u dudes pay for cnas of rusto?
Stoked2PaintNY
09-24-2010, 04:55 PM
the laks use male caps, and for the price of them yes u should just buy em over rustos for great coverage and u can bomb with laks too. i pay 3.95 for a can of rusto and rack a few as well
rusto around here are 3-4 a can, due to my current situation racking is not an option for me anymorre unless its just easy pens and shit. so ifi can pay 3 for rusto ill just pay another dollar for sabotaz, def my favorite paint. but i actually use a lot of color place, 99 cents, and of course ny fat/thin work fine on them
Stoked2PaintNY
09-27-2010, 04:45 PM
rusto around here are 3-4 a can, due to my current situation racking is not an option for me anymorre unless its just easy pens and shit. so ifi can pay 3 for rusto ill just pay another dollar for sabotaz, def my favorite paint. but i actually use a lot of color place, 99 cents, and of course ny fat/thin work fine on them
i know this is ironlak vs montana, but how would you compare sabotaz to ironlak? lookin to try em out. color place is the shit!! the gray covers really well for only 99cents and there great for fills, usailly do gray fills with ironlak black outlines. works like a charm
Graffitiwinkel
09-27-2010, 05:13 PM
Since 2 years I work as a professional graffiti artist ( meaning nothing more then that it's the only job I have to support my finances). I use both brands; both have their qualities and prices.
Montana Gold has a wider colour range, which makes it better to use for photorealistic work. It has not such a superior coverage as Ironlak or the Montana Blacks, for use on brick walls without any paint on it it's simply not suitable. If I have to paint on concrete or brick walls, most of the time I use Ironlak: sometimes combined with other brands to gether a wider colour range. Simple graffiti work or abstract work is also just perfect for use of Ironlak.
Also: in my experience I'd rather save the more expensive products like Montana for projects with a larger budget. Cheap tricks go easy with Ironlak. Any graffiti bombing also...
But there's just one thing about Ironlak: the smell.... pff gives me headaches
Some work with MONTANA:
http://www.jamesjetlagmuurschilderingen.nl/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/23-sept.2010-0221.jpg
Some work with IRONLAK:
http://www.jamesjetlagmuurschilderingen.nl/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Streetcycle-Chains1_2-Preview-550.jpg
KAZonee
09-27-2010, 05:26 PM
ironlak fades they should fix the uv system if they havnt already
i know this is ironlak vs montana, but how would you compare sabotaz to ironlak? lookin to try em out. color place is the shit!! the gray covers really well for only 99cents and there great for fills, usailly do gray fills with ironlak black outlines. works like a charm
there very comparable, both very thick and cover extremely well. in my experience ironlak might cover slightly better, and i mean very slightly. the medium pressure valve on sabotaz 80 is sick, put on a gold dot or any skinny cap it feel like a ironlak, use a fat cap it feels more similar to montana hardcore. Sabotaz also seems to dry just a little faster, but it smells fucking awful haha.
scorn13
10-05-2010, 08:21 PM
its just a matter of opinion, i personally like ironlak better because its lower pressure but it all depends on what your doing, pieces/wildstyle-ironlak bombs/throwups-mtn
dip02
10-05-2010, 09:29 PM
real men use rusto!
real men do whatever the fuck they want
mattxgrace
10-23-2010, 01:31 AM
I would take free rusto over ANYTHING paid for..
truth.
d e t h
10-29-2010, 01:43 PM
certain montana gold colors dont cover worth a fuck. i prefer montana black any day
since im poor i would say ironlak...
BlacktodaFuture
10-29-2010, 06:51 PM
rusto is a musto.
ShIfTeD
11-05-2010, 04:30 AM
neither, their both dick.
rustoleum or die.
montana drips like a mofo even when you let pressure out
ironlak..please...that shit is the worst, especially if your doing freights..hey..check it out! a brand of paint that smells strong as shit DAYS after you paint it, some time the valve is leaky, it fades like a MOTHERFUCKER
rusto>everything
Stuck
11-05-2010, 05:07 AM
fuck being an artist with ur fancy paints...be a writer and respecct the rackable rustoo...save for money for shit thats important, like rent booze strippers gas and drugs
sniffy
11-09-2010, 10:31 AM
It don't matter, use what ever paint you want to. Ironlak is a litle cheaper, but at the same time Montana has more lines of paint and specialty cans. It really don't matter though, use whatever you can your hands on. But I do hear that Ironlaks smell good...
ShIfTeD
11-10-2010, 10:49 AM
"but at the same time Montana has more lines of paint and specialty cans"
"But I do hear that Ironlaks smell good..."
good one.
Ironlak's thicker and cheaper, really consistent for bombing and pretty good with piecing, and valve pressure is pretty decent. Montana takes a few more coats to cover but has a way more color choice, piecing wise they're so smooth and have low valve pressure but the valves are way sensitive for the most part, bombing wise ehh it might take a lil longer if youre doin a fill.
Wait........ Rustos are free?! Where?!
.*. RAZ .*.
11-20-2010, 12:19 AM
Ironlak's thicker and cheaper, really consistent for bombing and pretty good with piecing, and valve pressure is pretty decent. Montana takes a few more coats to cover but has a way more color choice, piecing wise they're so smooth and have low valve pressure but the valves are way sensitive for the most part, bombing wise ehh it might take a lil longer if youre doin a fill.
i agree if you push down on a montana cap the wrong way it leaks like a basterd but if your pieceing (and have time) deff use montana , ironlaks are can for little time i use em for throwies with and without fills because you dont need to go over more then twice to have the color show so you save time
Tiktoker
11-20-2010, 05:21 AM
i would take montana anyday over ironlak. montana is all around better is every way.
twisties
02-09-2011, 09:35 PM
I don't think I'll be buying anymore reloads by ironlak...The white one went crazy pissing all this clear liquid out of the can while not in use...This all started to happen after I took a cap out of the can. Might of just been a stuffed up can to begin with but that was nasty.
mr.slowflow
02-17-2011, 11:52 AM
Everyone has their own preferences...No one 'professional' paint is better then the next. They all have their pros and cons in certain situations.
gritz.n.gravy
02-20-2011, 06:57 PM
ironak owns montana. i dont buy german montana. but id take a can of the real montana (mtn hardcore) over a can of lak anyday.
but half of you seem toy. talking about using premium paint for bombing. and talking about having to outline twice. if your gonna use premium paint just use it for outline. rack your fills.
kilz is by far better then any premium white paint. under 5 bucks a can. and if your not a wimp you can rack it from a hardware store.
ReackOne
02-20-2011, 07:19 PM
Bombin science sucks ass... Gief a ban pl0x
gritz.n.gravy
02-20-2011, 07:44 PM
Bombin science sucks ass... Gief a ban pl0x
why dont you just not come on this site if you wanna be banned.
stacksmalone
03-02-2011, 04:46 AM
wow .. i dont mind ironlak, but 94's all the way .. lately i have been liking blacks even more than 94's but thats a whole nother argument..
flat>>>gloss
RETZONE
03-02-2011, 10:45 AM
Personally, I like Spanish Montana over Ironlak and everything else I have tried, even German Montana.
my.favorite.addiction
03-02-2011, 01:00 PM
Its that Ironlaksteezy for me!
Its the right amount of expensive for a baller on a budget,comes in pretty flavors,and smells like candy.
Honestly though its pretty rare for me to pay for paint so I only get that shit for special occasions.
Shadow_gat
03-16-2011, 05:56 PM
hardcore :D
dirt diggler
03-24-2011, 10:42 AM
There both realy good i feel iron lack goes on kinda thicker and holds true iron lakk 4 me
memphisbleak2133
03-26-2011, 06:42 PM
Ok fuck this... Ironlak is dope and montana is gay.. Ironlak team i suppa sick wid it
proNYNJA
04-02-2011, 04:35 AM
from my experiences ironlak is thicker, so it has better coverage, and also its cheaper than Montanas, and the best part is ironlak smells nice while your painting with it, but please dont inhale to much becuz we dont wanna see a story on the morning news about a tagger passing out and dieing from inhaling to much spray paint cuz it smelled good.
LOSTINTHEMUSIC
04-16-2011, 10:38 AM
I am looking to host a battle between paints at my art wall some time soon, like the Facebook page to stay updated.
http://www.facebook.com/FunWallGraffiti
Kiloz Oner
BAF*AUK*SKZ
hhhhhhh
04-18-2011, 01:55 PM
ironlak fades but smells dope an is cheap
motana lasts dosent smell as good more $
Pickton's Pigpen
04-18-2011, 03:10 PM
ironlak fades but smells dope an is cheap
motana lasts dosent smell as good more $
straight fuckin' facts.
i refuse to buy ironlak now. REFUSE.
ironlak paint is like thick and chunky, covers pretty good... but it constantly clogs caps and the cans seem to run out of paint pretty quick?? i mean filling in a piece and with 3 cans barely having enough to finish
montana is buttery smooth and i always have leftover paint.
ironlak is like a dollar cheaper where i buy it, and its done me wrong waaayyy too many times.
im sorry..... its over between us.
Juelz Santana
05-19-2011, 03:00 PM
rustoleum
sektor163
06-08-2011, 01:59 PM
id say ironlak for black nd white then montana for everything else
mclovin14211
06-13-2011, 10:15 PM
Ironlak.Covers better.
TheBombersDream
06-23-2011, 03:10 PM
I would have to say Ironlak covers better then montana. I like the way Montana cans feel a bit better (spanish mtn) but Ironlaks colors and coverage are so much better. Just my opinion...
karPe
06-23-2011, 03:33 PM
MTN HardCore (spanish montana) for bombing, ironlak for legal pieces, german montnana (gold, black is wack) also for legal pieces, but if ur sure they're gonna last for a long time, cause unlike ironlak they don't fade.
TheBombersDream
06-23-2011, 03:39 PM
Ya I agree, the MTN Hardcore has great pressure for quick action.
Ironlak has a newish High pressure can, I have yet to try it. Its 600ml so not the best for stealth.
fixiebandit
08-10-2011, 06:28 AM
Molotow yes plzzz
what is up with people saying ironlak clogs caps... ive been using it little over a year and never once's clogged a cap...?
I never used montana i was thinking about ordering me up a pack just never got around to it....
but molotow is what you'll find in my baggg....
Moe_13
10-02-2011, 02:43 PM
i get to say nothing havn't truied ironlak i only used mtn hardcore for once other then that its 1-2$ cans for the no money or the mtn store is so away and ironlak is not found in my country thats why havn't tried it :P
skesrams
10-20-2011, 10:20 PM
Ironwak is shit... it fades in 6 months no joke. its made with acryllic paint thats why it comes out stringy when u first spray it.. your better off with rustoleum, its oil based which can handle the sun for tens years and barely start to fade no joke. thats just my experience.
Yodhan
10-23-2011, 03:48 PM
I use Ironlak, Molotw and Mtn94. There are some awesome colors from Ironlak that I really like, but I prefer how Belton and Mtn94 work.
CliffJackson
10-23-2011, 04:32 PM
between ironlak and montana i would go with montana just because the paint is top notch. shits too expensive tho. i would just get some cheap cans and some caps
all_crazy
10-24-2011, 11:56 AM
MTN Hardcore & 94...the 2 best paints out there...IronWak is straight trizzash....clogs caps constantly, fade like crazy, valves ALWAYS break & can becomes useless, made in China...on the other hand...MTN Hardcore is the ORIGINAL...made in the damn MTN factory, not out-sourced to some 3rd world country and made with shit...the colors are ALWAYS consistent...never a shade off...the MTN white is the purest, brightest white I've ever seen...it fucking GLOWS....everything that came after MTN is 2nd best IMO....Ironlak...aww man...they came out the gate with a shit product!!!
when 'Lak was first introduced to the graff world 10 out of 12 cans didn't work...the 2 that did leaked uncontrolably and clogged repeatedly...I remember buying a 12-pack when they first dropped...9 cans didn't spray so much as a drop of paint at all...nothing....how can you sell a product that is 90% un-useable??
perhaps I'm just bitter because I wasted so much money on Ironlak only to be disappointed over & over...BUT MTN is still the king in my book....
http://i54.tinypic.com/17csyf.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/35mgpxx.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/2u8uqu8.jpg
http://i51.tinypic.com/2ij0qc5.jpg
kioskonee
10-29-2011, 01:54 AM
to be honest i prefer laks. they cover well nd the paint is thick. problem with them is the valves. i got 4 laks last week and 2 fucked up making me go back and trade them for some new ones. appart from that laks are dope
Sinister151
10-29-2011, 12:34 PM
Ironlak is bomb , montana is too expensive
Jeffrey Inpho Daniel
10-31-2011, 12:01 PM
i havent seen ironlak fade, i'd rather just buy the rust-o's , better and cheaper paint, IMO,
ribcage
10-31-2011, 03:14 PM
^yes, but this thread is MONTANA VS IRONLAK, you have to pick one of those... And its extremely easy to say montana straight scrapes on ironlak
Jeffrey Inpho Daniel
10-31-2011, 04:03 PM
ironlak is cheaper, montana is better quality, if you got money to waste, montana, to practice, or do some throws, ironlak,
SLAY_666
11-02-2011, 09:28 PM
im new to graff so ive been trying a lot of diffrent cans. rusto was my first (just because you can buy it anywhere) but i found a art supply store 5 mins from my house that sells mtn hardcore. i love it, the cans have a great feel, the yellow/pink dot caps come on the cans are great. but i want to branch out and try everything. aside montana, ive bought like 10 cans of EVOLVE, and i like it. it does clog caps from time to time but it covers good and the colors are great. i also got a few cans of clash, and super tramp, wich is part of clash (i think?) and the color POPS and has good coverage. waiting to see if it gets buffed to see how it holds up. im waitin to use the paint i have before i buy more but i was going to get a can of ironlak next. i started with evolve because they are 4$ each, have a CRAZY big color selection, and ship for free when you spend 50$ (from www.**************)
SLAY_666
11-02-2011, 09:30 PM
i also got the clash phiranna and montana pockets too carry around for throwies and i love them! i just got the mtn hardcore micro can, wich is about the same size as a OTR pocket marker, i think its 20 or 30 ml, but its too cute for me to use it hahaha.
RENEGADES
11-05-2011, 11:33 AM
id say ironlak for black nd white then montana for everything else absoultly correct the black is dopee forr outliness cause its low pressure andd the highlights and shit with the white
PhuktheSystem
11-05-2011, 09:33 PM
old montana gold was sick.New formula sucks balls,Ironlak is very opaque,and has a nice clean finish
twisties
11-09-2011, 07:38 PM
Hmm..I either got some shiitty old Ironlak or something is screwed up with the cans I got. One can the paint came out instantly dry. Shook that mofo for about 20mins and still dry as fuck. Finally it came out but check the pictures out. That annoying spray with extra paint goin everywhere and the can is all gunked up.
4026940270
simpletag101
11-09-2011, 07:46 PM
montanna
am1er
11-09-2011, 07:46 PM
ironlak has that ill cotton candy scent
AZTEKA
11-10-2011, 04:52 PM
yeah it does shit actually smells good when you paint, so does valspar.
Aster.one
11-10-2011, 11:40 PM
I like montana, ironlak is a bit coole in my books because of the price, ironlak smells a bit like montana black, and a bit like krylon its odd..
Aster.one
11-10-2011, 11:53 PM
I have to go with MTN, I haven't tried Ironlak that much really though, so I'm not gonna start claiming that MTN is the best paint in the whole world or anything. But where the hell are all of you buying your MTN that it's costing you 8.50 or whatever a can?!?! that's ridiculous. I'm about to but 29 cans for 161 dollars, shipping and all included. that's 5.50...
Dude where i used to live it was 11$ a can for montana black..
H1P30N3R
11-11-2011, 01:15 AM
rusto bitches 90 percent of you all are hipster kids that say your piecin get the fuck out of here with that wack lying shit and if your really a skilled artist using lak or montana props to you
Aster.one
11-11-2011, 01:42 AM
Im not the best, but im not poor.. I like my good qualitynpaint kthxbye
H1P30N3R
11-11-2011, 01:54 AM
rusto is good quality in other words shut the fuck up hipster kid ps. good quality paint doesn't make up for shitty structure and wack ass letters
twisties
11-11-2011, 02:02 AM
Lol..Who cares what people paint with. If they are skilled or not skilled..Doesn't make a difference they can use whatever the fuck they want. It's them painting not you.
H1P30N3R
11-11-2011, 02:14 AM
^^ very true well said ... I just hate hipster kids
Aster.one
11-11-2011, 02:49 AM
rusto is good quality in other words shut the fuck up hipster kid ps. good quality paint doesn't make up for shitty structure and wack ass letters
Yup but i have structure and non wack letters, simple but not wack.. I am by no means a hipster.. And im def. Not a kid.. We dont get rusto in canada asshat.. Well not where i live, and tremclad (a rusto product) sucks my wrinkly sack.. Painters touch or bust, but now its that female 360 cap bullshit.. So you sir are the one who needs to shut the fuck up.. I have posted here with ledgends asshat..
Aster.one
11-11-2011, 02:53 AM
Lol..Who cares what people paint with. If they are skilled or not skilled..Doesn't make a difference they can use whatever the fuck they want. It's them painting not you.
Very well said..
Ps h1p3 you are a fucking dick weasel
H1P30N3R
11-11-2011, 06:03 PM
lol it doesnt matter what you think of me im entitled to my opinion ...thats why this is a forum to argue your opinions/views
Aster.one
11-11-2011, 07:03 PM
As am i, and i think you are an ass spelunker..
Reinone
11-12-2011, 04:00 PM
Montana ! ARE you kidding me ? its not even a legit versus ! Ironlak can like my butthole. what a waste of time this thread is !
duley
11-12-2011, 11:32 PM
hard to say but i would have to pick ironlak.... i bought the deep sea pack of 9 ironlak cans im excited to get them 4051240513
Cathera
11-13-2011, 11:54 AM
Im not the best, but im not poor.. I like my good qualitynpaint kthxbye
Seconded...if you don't know what you're doing it's just putting down wasted money.
Aster.one
11-13-2011, 01:03 PM
Dude ive used montana black, and ironlak and ironlak > black... Havnt had a problem with one can yet... Keep your shit shook!
FactsSAG
11-13-2011, 02:27 PM
its all about ironlak.. plus ive had problems with montana. sooo. Ironlak all the way
Aster.one
11-13-2011, 03:27 PM
Never had a problem with montana, but where i was living it was 11$ a can.. Im on van island if anyone knows ANY art stores that sell good paint PlEASE LET ME KNOW!!
maizy
11-13-2011, 03:41 PM
Never had a problem with montana, but where i was living it was 11$ a can.. Im on van island if anyone knows ANY art stores that sell good paint PlEASE LET ME KNOW!!
Go online? For me it is way cheaper to buy online versus buying IRL mainly because the closet store for me is about a 2 hour drive. So I just buy online, besides I love Ironlak for fills and I love Montana for flaired handstyles so I get both. But now I'm looking at Molotow.
Aster.one
11-13-2011, 03:48 PM
Lol no one delivers paint to the yukon terr., canada... :/ im in bc now, and order off BS, but i wanna know where some good stores are in my area
maizy
11-13-2011, 04:29 PM
Lol no one delivers paint to the yukon terr., canada... :/ im in bc now, and order off BS, but i wanna know where some good stores are in my area
Well I'm in the middle of no were as well so don't feel bad.
Aster.one
11-13-2011, 05:15 PM
Lol it sucks monkey tits..
aerosoul
11-13-2011, 09:10 PM
Hardcore Montana is #1!:cool:
H1P30N3R
11-13-2011, 09:26 PM
Yup but i have structure and non wack letters, simple but not wack.. I am by no means a hipster.. And im def. Not a kid.. We dont get rusto in canada asshat.. Well not where i live, and tremclad (a rusto product) sucks my wrinkly sack.. Painters touch or bust, but now its that female 360 cap bullshit.. So you sir are the one who needs to shut the fuck up.. I have posted here with ledgends asshat..
your a moron you posted with legends and you can't even spell the word correctly ... by the way posting with "legends" doesn't make you shit just a person on a forum. Your a kid no grown ass man is going to say asshat and if he does he is a faggot. who the hell do you think makes painters touch you idiot .
Aster.one
11-13-2011, 11:36 PM
Rusto, durr, spelling is pointless on an iphone when you have fat thumbs, and i dont know what
Your poblem is with me, but i think you can fuck off
Aster.one
11-13-2011, 11:37 PM
If you think tremclad and painters touch are the same you should quit now..
H1P30N3R
11-14-2011, 04:43 AM
don't take it personal its all talk
ribcage
11-14-2011, 11:51 AM
watch out man, this ***** be postin with legends!!!!! LMAO he must know everything right?
evolve's darks are awesome, 4 a can, their lights are fairly transparent thou :(
H1P30N3R
11-14-2011, 03:29 PM
rib your a legend bro it is an honor to post with you on this forum
Aster.one
11-14-2011, 08:42 PM
fuck you guys are retarded,and not worth my time, did i once say i know everything.. no..
Messi*TnR
11-14-2011, 10:31 PM
ironlak cans are bunk!!! i bought fifty dollars worth of em and the all worked like \shit...they were always clogging and half the fuckin caps out there dont even work on em....use the proper graff tools..Molotow!
HipHopAdept
11-14-2011, 11:03 PM
ironlak for sure
Aster.one
11-15-2011, 03:30 PM
I have 30 cans of lak 20 of molotow, and havnt had a problem with either one, or had a problem with molotow going over wet lak..and as for it coming out "dry" if you mean the first 10 sceeonds comes out like silly string, its supposed to. Never had a problem with clogging, or with caps fitting..
Aster.one
11-15-2011, 03:31 PM
When you use lak, start the can with a pink dot.. Then switch to whatever..
ribcage
11-15-2011, 03:42 PM
fuck you guys are retarded,and not worth my time, did i once say i know everything.. no..
umad bro? you didnt say it, but imply it with every1 of your posts. you wont take anybody elses answer into consideration but your own. Which make me think you think you know everything.
I know EVERYTHING. So I know what you know, and what you think you may know but dont know
H1P30N3R
11-15-2011, 06:21 PM
http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/TheWoodenBlock/trollin.jpg
Aster.one
11-15-2011, 07:30 PM
Lol ^^ i take other ppls answers in to consideratio, dont mean i listen to them or agree with the
SEWERRATS
11-17-2011, 03:22 AM
ironlak kinda smells like candy
PaintOnDeck
11-18-2011, 03:33 PM
Ironlak
spiltink
11-18-2011, 05:29 PM
ironlak tastes like candy
inpho_211
11-21-2011, 04:14 PM
ironlak fades,
maizy
11-21-2011, 05:10 PM
ironlak fades,
Yeah it does but Ironlak has also made the fade protector. Which is only useful for legal pieces or small quiet fr8 yards.
Jeffrey Inpho Daniel
11-21-2011, 05:21 PM
i've never tried montana, neither spanish or german, i've tried a few old school krylons, alot of rust-o's, a couple of ironlak, and alot of off brand dollar paints, i'd say if you have to apply fade protector to make it last, it ain't worth it,
today i first tried ironlak,cuz in europe and especialy Bulgaria,ironlaks are rare to see in shops..so i bought myself one can of Ironlak to test it.My impression is that ironlak are not good paint compared with montata,because when i first sprayed it(shaked it a minute or so)it started spraying this thing like party cream or something like that...then i sprayed more and finaly it gave up and started the paint.The paint itself is not good in my opinion i bought white ironlak and it faded super fast nomater how many second i sprayed..it dripped like hell and didn't cover up well.So i will stick from this time to Montana,Molotow and other brand of paint :) And Ironloak smells weard fuck
Hell2daNah
11-22-2011, 02:14 PM
take this from someone who has been writing for more than 10 years. rusto is best. montana over ironlack for sure. ironlack fades why would u get it unless ur doing something thats gonna get buffed right after...like clean trains
OctoVenom
12-01-2011, 01:22 AM
both there dope also fresh paint is great.
Jeffrey Inpho Daniel
12-06-2011, 02:15 PM
never tried fresh, they're gonna have mad colors soon though,
jaysim
12-18-2011, 06:00 AM
Ironlak has a great selection of colours but in terms of overall paint and valve flow i like molotows. But i have nothing against ironlaks theyre a good brand of paint. So if you are looking for great paint and cheap ones ironlaks are the way to go. Molotows are expensive :/
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