Caps

[Kalypso_TGEB]

I don't understand caps. i cant get them at any stores in my town, only in vancouver. I bought some NYC fat and thins but the fucking thins only worked for one time on my montana spray cans. what the fuck is going ????? do i have to buy new caps everytime one doesnt work, thats crap. and would i have to order caps off the internet if i wanted gold blue and gray outlines????

[ESNED]

i dunno go fuck your self for opening a thread thats useless search the forums for the right spot where it already has answers but so u shut up...
clean ur caps when ur done using them if ur so worried bout them clogging, and there cheap so dont bitch, and ya u prob will have to order them online but u dont need other caps just do with wat u can get, all u really need is the basics... ny fat ny thin ny, ny rusto, german outline, pink dots

thats all i use for caps

[genome]

just use the stocks. and when youn bomb use a fat for fill.
caps are really over rated unless you are str8 b4llin. how homo

[boo-yaka]

Ok, you really suck for opening this thread, but here's some advice, not every type of cap works with every can (they have different valve systems, or whatever). Use german skinnys (a.k.a. outlines) on euro paint and other euro caps on euro paint. Most American paints can take euro caps, but it differs from brand to brand and not all American paints work with all American caps (several brands do not work well with NY fats, in which case you should use Rusto fats or German fats). Anyway, go find an online graffiti store that explains what caps go with what paint (there are several sites that do this) then you won't have to clog up the internet with your really obvious, continually asked question.

[whOaHT]

do i smell ...... retardism ?

CLOSE THIS SHIT

dammit

[pSYKAOz]

wring forum section... got to the tips spot and check for a cap thread

[mindo]

Originally posted by ESNED@May 28 2004, 12:36 PM
fat ny thin ny, ny rusto, german outline, pink dots

NY RUSTOS HAHAHAHAH!!! thats such a joke....they are just plain old rusto fats. they have nothing to do with NY's at all. Ny thins clog up easily...even if you try cleaning them after you paint chances are they will be clogged next time you try...if you buy them in bulk from bombingscience it's a lot cheaper then just buying them when you need them. NY fats are good for doing quick fills and dope fades on handstyles...i would consider them to be a bombing cap, Rusto Fats also a bombing cap to me but can be used for pieces if you want, they have good coverage, I'm not the biggest fan of german outlines but i will use them from time to time depending on what i want to do with them...i don't tend to use them for outlines oddly enough...and pink dots...i hate those fucking things..you'll run out of a can of paint in no time if you're not careful.

If you don't want to pay for caps then go to a hardware store like Home Depot and look at the aerosol products and just grab some caps off those cans and test them out...you'd be surprised at the type of spray you can get out of those caps. It's how they did it before there were 4,000,000 differant kinds of caps.


but you can get most of this info in other threads. check in the tools and tips section.

actually....thats where this thread is going now.

hope all that helped you out.

[ESNED]

how true my friend found a shooter cap on some no name can for some spray type shit he told me it was a ny when he gave it to me cause they looked the same in the dark and when i used it well take a guess

[Sier]

the cap probably gets clogged so you might want to put it in some paint thinner.

[KwazOne]

Originally posted by genome@May 28 2004, 11:40 AM
just use the stocks. and when youn bomb use a fat for fill.
caps are really over rated unless you are str8 b4llin. how homo
Your a Whack toy if you use death caps.

[oblong]

wow, are u ever toy
please kill yourself

[pSYKAOz]

i use fan stocks for piece fillings... theres nothing better. well i use like ny thins for filling the real small areas....

[genome]

Originally posted by KwazOne@May 28 2004, 01:11 PM

Your a Whack toy if you use death caps.
death caps?

[Tony]

stocks. i love useing them...

[kamikaze]

lol

[mindo]

Originally posted by KwazOne+May 28 2004, 05:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (KwazOne @ May 28 2004, 05:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-genome@May 28 2004, 11:40 AM
just use the stocks. and when youn bomb use a fat for fill.
caps are really over rated unless you are str8 b4llin. how homo
Your a Whack toy if you use death caps. [/b][/quote]
You are an idiot above all idiots. If you can&#39;t properly use a stock cap to rock shit you shouldn&#39;t have the liberty to rock with specialty caps. You need to be able to write under any conditions. By only using specialty caps you&#39;re being babied and being a pussy. At least take some time to practice wth stocks. Another thing is that if you can rock really dope with stocks then when you actually do use caps like NY thins, you&#39;ll be fucking dope with them even more so than if you just started with the NY thins.

But thats just my wack toy opinion. :rolleyes:

[checkers]

too many fellow artist dead&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

[Disciple]

Originally posted by mindo@May 28 2004, 12:08 PM
If you don&#39;t want to pay for caps then go to a hardware store like Home Depot and look at the aerosol products and just grab some caps off those cans and test them out...you&#39;d be surprised at the type of spray you can get out of those caps. It&#39;s how they did it before there were 4,000,000 differant kinds of caps.
is there any products that for sure have fat/thin caps?
all i&#39;m lookin for is fat caps...i&#39;ve heard you can get german outlines from invisible glass (car window cleaner)

[Seek]

I agree..

practice with stocks then once you get somewhat good order tips. if you order them when you suck you&#39;re just gonna be wasting them anyways.


Peace.

[GeSuS_KRiST]

very true..... but stocks are fuckin beautiful for sketching and outlineing and if yall dont agree with that you just dont know shit about caps

[EONone]

Holy crap&#33;

I can vouch for the awesomeness of caps. And yes, if you can&#39;t rock shit with a stock, then you shouldn&#39;t be
writing.

Lousy Heroes Cap Store (http://www.lousyheroes.com/homepage/Store.htm)

[yuki]

Originally posted by genome+May 28 2004, 06:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (genome @ May 28 2004, 06:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-KwazOne@May 28 2004, 01:11 PM

Your a Whack toy if you use death caps.
death caps? [/b][/quote]
Stock or black krylon stock caps, hence the name black "death" caps. A reference to the bubonic plague I believe. Meaning the caps suck and they will kill your piece. That&#39;s how I understand it anyway. I could be totally wrong.

[GeSuS_KRiST]

yo anyone know any us stores i can order mixing caps from?

[EONone]

make your own mixers... so cheap.

[GeSuS_KRiST]

making your own shits not good enough i dont fuck with ANY type of tip mods i always fuck it up

[yuki]

just to clarify: stock caps can fuck up a piece, but I agree, it is good to be able to practice with them and to know what you can pull off with them.

Gesus, the Bic pen ink well method works pretty well for mixing paint. At least, I haven&#39;t had any trouble with it. As long as you cut the tube short enough it hardly even bends when you depress the can pressure. I don&#39;t even use the caps/tips. Just shove the ink well tube straight in the cans.

[Havoc411]

Originally posted by Disciple+Nov 29 2004, 05:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Disciple @ Nov 29 2004, 05:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-mindo@May 28 2004, 12:08 PM
If you don&#39;t want to pay for caps then go to a hardware store like Home Depot and look at the aerosol products and just grab some caps off those cans and test them out...you&#39;d be surprised at the type of spray you can get out of those caps. It&#39;s how they did it before there were 4,000,000 differant kinds of caps.
is there any products that for sure have fat/thin caps?
all i&#39;m lookin for is fat caps...i&#39;ve heard you can get german outlines from invisible glass (car window cleaner) [/b][/quote]
elmers spray adhesive has rusto fats on them. prolly my favorite cap. another thing ive done before is modding my caps, killz alresol primer (the kind with green on the label) has a german style cap on it but its way to high pressure so i take out the little insert thats in it and put a stock rusto insert in the german stly cap and its like a comfortable fatcap. really cool, you should try it. i like using those for tags and bomb/throwup outlines

[graffistheshit]

i have rustos and ny thins but i pretty much only use the ny thins, unless im on the freeway devider or on a rooftop i use the fats for fills. a lot of people say the german outlines are much more precise thins than nythins but the ny thins are good for fills too cuz there like a meduim width cap.

[hitshit89]

does any one no if pink dots fit on rusto?? :ph34r:

[SmashOnUPlasticActreses4Practice]

yes they do.

does any one know of any caps that come on other spray products? expecially ny thins or rusto fats?

[hitshit89]

elmers spray adhesive=rusto fats :ph34r:

[shyone]

to change a male valve to a female valve can i just pull out the white tube thingy, or does taht release the pressure?

[i_eat_clam]

Originally posted by mindo@May 29 2004, 12:04 PM

...specialty caps. You need to be able to write under any conditions. By only using specialty caps you&#39;re being babied and being a pussy.
first off this thread makes me sick.... everyone is saying "toy"... you people killed the word...


now as for this comment
need to be able to write under any conditions... damn you make it seem like your going to war "train to fight in all conditions" what a geek.
and by only using special caps , that "makes you a pussy?". if someone pulls off something ill by just using "special caps" that means that they are "pussy"?
no it just means that they have control over their tools...
20 years ago is when they only had stock caps.. and thats what they used . why?...
Becasue thats what they only had... today we have tons of caps for every single fuckin thing you can think of... and why not use em if you can?...

can control is can control.... it dont matter what caps you use...

[Havoc411]

good point. hey, i was at A.C. Moore yesterday and when i was taking caps off elmers cans i saw a can of krylon acid neutralizer and looked at the cap and it was like a rusto fat but it had a light blue insert thing and a smaller hole. i havent tried it yet but if anyone knows how it writes say something. also has anyone else modded caps?

[EONone]

I already searched around the site but didn&#39;t find anything that answered my question

Q: Anyone know how to make a pencil line cap? Montana never has them in stock and it&#39;s buggin me. I hear from a friend you can make&#39;em... messy as hell... but you can make&#39;em and get ultra thin lines.... pencil lines to be exact.

[EONone]

Nevermind

http://www.LousyHeroes.com/New%20Art/PencilCap.jpg

[DOUK or DIE]

that has got to be the sketchiest thing ive seen in my entire life

as for caps its reall not rocket science and i think the best way to learn about them is through expirience, or bombing science should write a how-to guide

some caps work on some cans, others dont, that pretty much says it all

[EONone]

Originally posted by DOUK or DIE@Dec 11 2004, 11:59 AM
that has got to be the sketchiest thing ive seen in my entire life
*sigh* I know, I love it.

[Havoc411]

rustoleum auto primer has some kind of hooded cap. i havent tried them yet.

[Havoc411]

how fat exactly are the german fats/orange dots? and how skinny are german outlines? cause im gonna send in a mail order for some of those and i wanna know what im putting my money into

[Ume]

orange dots from like 20-30cm aways makes the size of an orange lol, german outlines can make a pencil thin line from like 10 cm, but the backspray to ur hands sucks so use gloves if ur going to.

[Shyd...]

you hold your can 20 to 30 cm away from the thing your painting??

[_Zombi3]

Originally posted by DOUK or DIE@Dec 11 2004, 11:59 AM
that has got to be the sketchiest thing ive seen in my entire life

as for caps its reall not rocket science and i think the best way to learn about them is through expirience, or bombing science should write a how-to guide

some caps work on some cans, others dont, that pretty much says it all
this has nothing to do with what we&#39;re talking about but,
whats the name of the song u have on ur sig
i&#39;ve heard it before, but need to know the name and artist, do u know?



"we be the infamous,you heard of us, official queens bridge murderas" <<<<<

[Ume]

Originally posted by Shyd...@Dec 27 2004, 09:35 PM
you hold your can 20 to 30 cm away from the thing your painting??
i fucked up on that...tryin to look smart :( but i meant like 3-5cm

[Havoc411]

thanks for el help

[Seek]

hey havoc
some useful pics that I used before I ordered my tips. BTW grey outliners are the same as German Outlines and orange dots are the same as German Fats.

http://www.liquidcrack.net/new_greycap_box_copy.jpg
http://www.liquidcrack.net/new_orangedot_box_copy.jpg


Peace.

[Havoc411]

are there any caps that&#39;ll fit on montana thats the same size as a rusto fat or a little bit fatter, cause thats really what im looking for

[Seek]

try NY Fats. they spray a little fatter than Rusto Fats but not as fat as German Fats.


Peace.

[bigbomba']

Originally posted by whOaHT@May 28 2004, 12:01 PM
do i smell ...... retardism ?

CLOSE THIS SHIT

dammit
Clean your damn caps ass hole



Acid

[Blacaso]

bombing science fat caps fit on wat cans

[o0 *diSc* 0o]

haha..."bombing science fat caps"

["awesome"ONE]

yeah, why people say that I don&#39;t know maybe to narrow down the number of caps to a select few I guess

[dub]

r Gold dots really the thinest line u can get?

[bumsuckfun]

no, they are not.

needle caps are pretty thin, and i also have microcaps which are super super thin, like a dot maybe as round as the eraser on the end of a pencil, but i don&#39;t think they make them anymore...

[dub]

where can u get microcaps from?

[bumsuckfun]

Originally posted by bumsuckfun@Jan 29 2005, 12:19 AM
i don&#39;t think they make them anymore...
that pretty much sums it up... actually read through posts before responding.

i ordered them almost 2 years ago, and back then they were already considered extinct so i considered myself likely to stumble across them. the chances of finding them now are probably even slimmer...

[dub]

bum go into toy story and help me out a lil, i seen how u helped marz. plz

["awesome"ONE]

that&#39;s too bad, with a line that thin you could probably use your can to get a tag off to look like a tag with a marker

[Juice+]

that would be so sweet. pencil eraser dot like lines... shit dude. Needle caps arnt that thin for whoever asked. Smallest i think is grey dots. 2nd black dots, and 3rd i belive goldies...

[bumsuckfun]

Originally posted by dub@Jan 29 2005, 12:25 AM
bum go into toy story and help me out a lil, i seen how u helped marz. plz
ill help you out but not tonight... im going to bed i work in the morning.

[bumsuckfun]

Originally posted by Juice+@Jan 29 2005, 12:31 AM
that would be so sweet. pencil eraser dot like lines... shit dude. Needle caps arnt that thin for whoever asked. Smallest i think is grey dots. 2nd black dots, and 3rd i belive goldies...
yah i like them but i need to clean them regularly so they don&#39;t clog... and i was only able to get like 10 and im sure i lost a good portion of that 10...

[Juice+]

Originally posted by bumsuckfun+Jan 29 2005, 12:32 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bumsuckfun &#064; Jan 29 2005, 12:32 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Juice+@Jan 29 2005, 12:31 AM
that would be so sweet. pencil eraser dot like lines... shit dude. Needle caps arnt that thin for whoever asked. Smallest i think is grey dots. 2nd black dots, and 3rd i belive goldies...
yah i like them but i need to clean them regularly so they don&#39;t clog... and i was only able to get like 10 and im sure i lost a good portion of that 10... [/b][/quote]
well, for needle cap i tried... it looks like the German fatcap A but has something resembling the bic pen tube ink insert

http://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/5462/2h/************.safeshopper.com/images/b811h3p2.jpg


but the red needle cap:




i am unsure. i bet its needle like tho


http://*********.org/prodimages/caps011l.jpg

[bumsuckfun]

my micros just looked like the original german outline but spray super thin... to be honest i took a sharpie and marked M on the micros so i&#39;d know what&#39;s what. also, they don&#39;t have a needle, but to get the eraser dot sized line i&#39;d have the can super close to the wall... almost scraping. but i guess that&#39;s the point of using most low-pressure skinnys...

[CaptSnuffy]

I got this cap off of "Plasti-glass" glass cleaner that looks like a ny thin/fat. It&#39;s a white cap with the little grooves vertically down the side with a black insert. I tried it on a can of black rusto and it just leaked like a bitch. While it was leaking (didn&#39;t notice at first) it sprayed about the same width as a stock rusto cap, but it probably goes a lot wider since it must&#39;ve been losing pressure when it leaked. Can anyone help identify this cap (is it a thin or a fat?) and tell me maybe what types of cans it can fit on? I&#39;m gonna go try it on some krylon, i&#39;ll make an update after.

[CaptSnuffy]

Tried it on krylon, the mystery cap sprayed a thinner and a considerably harder line than a krylon stock cap. As compared to the krylon stock, the cap&#39;s head was shorter than that of the krylon stock. The stem of the cap was also shorter than the krylon stock cap however it didn&#39;t leak at all.

[3mpir3]

im a have to go with the NY fat there too sick and great for fades also BANANA caps pretty sick aswell


robotsrockmyworld@hotmail.com

[wookiE]

pink dots are sick and so are ultra fats, soooo nice

[cky2521]

PINK DOTS ARE NICE BUT THAY JUST WASTE PAINT. YOU CAN DO THE SAME FILL WITH A NY FAT AND STILL HAVE PAINT LEFT. ITS JUST HAPPENED TO ME TOO MANY TIMES WHERE I RUN OUT OF PAINT USING A PINK DOT.

OWN OPINION
2 CENTS

[[NESTER]]

QUOTE (bumsuckfun @ Jan 29 2005, 12:32 AM)
QUOTE (Juice @ +Jan 29 2005, 12:31 AM)
that would be so sweet. pencil eraser dot like lines... shit dude. Needle caps arnt that thin for whoever asked. Smallest i think is grey dots. 2nd black dots, and 3rd i belive goldies...

yah i like them but i need to clean them regularly so they don&#39;t clog... and i was only able to get like 10 and im sure i lost a good portion of that 10...

well, for needle cap i tried... it looks like the German fatcap A but has something resembling the bic pen tube ink insert

user posted image


but the red needle cap:




i am unsure. i bet its needle like tho


the red needle caps are pretty much a cap to finish up the last bit of paint up in your can. Ther not what there advertised as. If you put the needle cap on a fresh can youll empty half a can on catching two tags. I swear it shoots out a spray of paint about 3 ft. You gotta really bleed your can and get all the pressure out if your gonna attempt to use them. Orange dots are better than gold and pink dot caps cause it conserves your paint but u still get a descently fat line.

[minor crimes]

Originally posted by CaptSnuffy@Jan 29 2005, 11:07 AM
I got this cap off of "Plasti-glass" glass cleaner that looks like a ny thin/fat. It&#39;s a white cap with the little grooves vertically down the side with a black insert. I tried it on a can of black rusto and it just leaked like a bitch. While it was leaking (didn&#39;t notice at first) it sprayed about the same width as a stock rusto cap, but it probably goes a lot wider since it must&#39;ve been losing pressure when it leaked. Can anyone help identify this cap (is it a thin or a fat?) and tell me maybe what types of cans it can fit on? I&#39;m gonna go try it on some krylon, i&#39;ll make an update after.
its probably a tuxon. did it have like a wack dot? like not a dot but like a burst or a star sorta shape???


i like the black dots the best :) and grey dots. ny fats ive taken a likeing to. level 5 caps are the best for flares though :). ny fats are good for fills and outlines if u want fat outlines