Phat2 vs Phillip McDougal : "AMBER"

**Msfyt** · 07-12-2010 10:52 PM

"AMBER" (Full color piece)

Phat2:

Phillip McDougal:

**stylz 27** · 07-12-2010 11:40 PM

lol

**4HER** · 07-13-2010 11:56 AM

BBBUUURRRRNNNNN.
sick fill, McD.

**Phat 2** · 07-13-2010 12:37 PM

I keep complicating shit >_<

**IllLogic** · 07-13-2010 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by stylz 27

lol

**PREA672** · 07-13-2010 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by IllLogic

lol

**Phillip McDougall** · 07-14-2010 12:19 AM

lol

**B.S. P0LICE** · 07-14-2010 12:37 AM

lol

**-Empty-Can-** · 07-14-2010 01:28 AM

lol

**Phat 2** · 07-14-2010 02:21 AM

**del4sel** · 07-15-2010 12:09 AM

looks like you took 300+ hours on that shit

**Phat 2** · 07-15-2010 08:51 AM

del4sel I see a whole lotta talking and no writin' buddy.
I admit I overdid it, plus my material's kinda cheap (paper bleeds through and bad markers... you do the math)
the problem is that I overdid it when I should'nt have
and nah, imma keep on battling, it's great practice and hell, everytime you lose, you learn something new from ur mistakes... I've got nothing to lose nowatimean ?

**B.S. P0LICE** · 07-15-2010 09:12 AM

battles are a great way to keep pushing yourself and get your skill up keep going man everybody looses sometimes

**Phat 2** · 07-15-2010 09:29 AM

I know dude, exactly, you gotta learn to lose to win later. although I thought I lost enough. heh apparently not. cheers to phil though... t 'was cool
congrats

**Nescer1** · 07-15-2010 10:45 AM

phatz sketch just looks...sloppy

**Phat 2** · 07-15-2010 05:46 PM

stylz nah, m no hater... u got the wrong guy
and biting is progression? not really
biting if anything is only ok for your first 2-3 pieces just to learn how to put your letters together and how to build structure, and even then I wouldn't call it biting. it's more of a... um analytical copying if u know what I mean, just to analyse how lettering is done by others so that you can start making your own shit.
this is my opinion...

and since this thread is in the main battle section of the forum, it would be better if we take this whole shebang over to the beef battle in the toy section, eh?

**4HER** · 07-15-2010 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by Phat 2

stylz nah, m no hater... u got the wrong guy
and biting is progression? not really
biting if anything is only ok for your first 2-3 pieces just to learn how to put your letters together and how to build structure, and even then I wouldn't call it biting. it's more of a... um analytical copying if u know what I mean, just to analyse how lettering is done by others so that you can start making your own shit.
this is my opinion...

and since this thread is in the main battle section of the forum, it would be better if we take this whole shebang over to the beef battle in the toy section, eh?

Yo your sketch is whack but you got exactly the right attitude to progress. Good on you. I suggest keeping it black and white for a while (nothin wrong with just usin a biro), get the letters going nicely, then start working on simple fills..

**tickz** · 07-16-2010 11:11 AM

****Bangs head upon table-twice!!****
it was me with the progression shout!! before I get misquoted here, let me explain myself!!
I was referring to the "toy" stage or beginner years. when I started (and this was a looooong time ago) I just straight copied pieces out of subway art, understanding the basics of letter structure,flow,cohesion,symmetry and just plain "dopeness" is all important how ever you begin to understand the culture is fine, as long as you are aware that down the line your original bites become influence and from that grows style.
In my eyes, bites are fine as long as the person doin it understands whats happening (as you do stylz) (and readily admit it!)
I was flattered that someone was biting me. ive only recently got back into it and I could do with all the confidence I can get, and stylz if there are any pointers I can offer you,just ask

I basically agree with Phat2's comment above and am sorry for the hijack of your thread-this should be discussed elsewhere really!

peace and paint!!

**EsKoNeR!!** · 07-18-2010 05:33 AM

im deleteing all of this nonsense biting bullshit talk tomorrow. phillip won. end of story. if there was biting involved take it up through pms. its all usless bullshit talk in this. its suppose to be comments regarding the battle piece. and all im seeing is the same bullshit reply over and over again.
good job phillip. phat2, like you said in your first post, you complicated things. end of story.