The Ink Discussion Thread

[provinT13]

your asking on an opinion on ****... im the idiot

blaaaaaa ok i've seen **** buff tests and **** drip tests on youtube, but was just wondering what everyone thought, so from your posts i'll just assume that it's fucking shiznackling crazy and i'll go buy some, kthxbye...

[H3TT1NG3R]

to martyr~ carbon doesnt dissolve. idk what the fish tank shit looks like, but if you wanna add teh carbon to an ink, youll need to like get it into powder form or something, then suspend it with something, dpending on what your putting it into

[zenne]

last night i made ink by just pouring a little 100% acetate in a empty water bottle, and cut up ball point pen things about 1/2 inch, and filled them to the top of the acetate, shook it up and let it sit a few hours. im not sure how it works on metal, but it stained on my desk and its still on my hands, i cant wash it off... i need to get a mop to put it in and use it on metal 0.o

[H3TT1NG3R]

yea pen ink is good. you mean acetone though right?

[H3TT1NG3R]

if anyone here is good at making homemade pigmented inks flow through markers pm me

[tiny tim]

did yuo say home made pigmented inks?

::edit::why do the forums censor the word ****??

[Five Sixx Ace]

is it okay to make ink with acetone, would the ink made with it melt a nyc mop or otr h2b?

[Olick]

if anyone here is good at making homemade pigmented inks flow through markers pm me

alls i ever felt knowing is that all the bright colors "yellow n shit" are man made.

as for carbon. BURN STUFF!

but im like 100% sure u knew that so yah im useless =]

[##sable##]

did yuo say home made pigmented inks?

::edit::why do the forums censor the word ****??

delete yeur entire sig, and leave for 2 months.

than come back to bombing science when yeu have learned more.

[tiny tim]

yo phuck you. i was askin what he said cuz it sounded like a typo. secondly the whole point of this thread is to get legitamate questions answered and "learn more" you pompous fuck

and yah my sig was gay so i edited it

[tiny tim]

thats a retarded question, thin it with alcohol or acetone.

and tiny tim, can you post pictures of flax seed oil used to slow drying time? cuz im almost 90% it dosent work



yeah i guess theres activated carbon in fish filters, the lady at the petstore was explaining that to me when i was buying malachite green i needed to take it out. i dont know how you got a lot of it. but you can take a little cup put acetone or alc in it, add the carbon as it is and see if it disolves

report back on where you got, "alot" of carbon, and if it dissolved. that way you can contribute to the thread.

uhh ill try to get picyures some time soon. and fot the carbon, i remember this one time i came into a petsmart and they had like this 32 oz bucket full of like rabbit turd sized balls of carbon.tht might be what he has

[H3TT1NG3R]

yea i edited my post, too many typos. and yah i know how to make pigmented inks, its just that i cant get them to flow well through liek pump valve markers. and i dont think its because theyre too thick, and the pigmentes are suspended well so idk what the problem is

[noxi]

Just to be sure, is pearl ex meant for oil based paint or can it be used for ink?

[Olick]

it can be used for w/e the fuck you want.

it DOES flow through pump markers though.

and hettinger. if you TRUELY made pigments then it garunteed to flow through anything. im not saying you didnt. but maybe the mixture that you throw the pigments into is the problem. not the pigment themselves you kno?

[tiny tim]

yea i edited my post, too many typos. and yah i know how to make pigmented inks, its just that i cant get them to flow well through liek pump valve markers. and i dont think its because theyre too thick, and the pigmentes are suspended well so idk what the problem is

well im gaurunteed to not know the answerbut out of curiosity what did you use to suspend the pigments and in what base. does the illadel pigment based flow through markers?

::edit:: so did anybody check into that party blue yet

[ohgawdxcarcrash]

pigments can vary in size, and the amount you put in can effective the way it flows.

and pearl ex, is really shitty with inks if you have the silver/aluminum kind. get the darkest color you can find for inks.

[H3TT1NG3R]

i made an ink from
zinseer shellac, its just shellac dissolved in ethanol and isopropanol.
thne i added FINE carbon black, but maybe it does have to be uber fine?

[HëRbN]

from what ive done with pigments it does have to be hella fine, or can make a big difference if it is. cause what i used was really fine but didnt get along with a pump valve very well. it worked at first but got shitty and clogged in the smaller sections over time. im sure it depends on the pigment as well though.

[ohgawdxcarcrash]

even the most fine grained things, can easily thicken when mixed with other substances. consistency can effect the color so really so you don't want it to be thinned down too much, to save time.. just poke holes in the nib or find a base that can dissolve the pigments or whatever additive you put in.

[H3TT1NG3R]

how do the pigments thicken? and pigments dotn dissolve, so its just abotu suspending them ,which the shellac did fine, and the ink didnt seem thick.
but yea i guess it might be the pigment size, because i used generals brand powdered graphite. but idk where to get wicked fine pigment without ordering online. i coudl do teh lamp black shit but taht takes forever.

or maybe i even need to dilute the shellac? because the way it comes its pretty concentrated, and i dont think i really need that much binder