The Ink Discussion Thread

[Cesk]

if you're using mineral spirits as your thinner, the gk will stain fabric.. so go hit up ralph lauren.

Nawh yo, I use some no-name brand thinner. It's 1.70 a lt here.
So any ideas on changing the paint:thinner ratio?
Mind you I'll be using a Window Writer (The ones that look like **** mini mops)

[Olick]

get some xylene. mix 1/2 1/2

but since u want it thick

get some polyurethane. mix 1/2 1/2

orrrr

get some linseed oil. mix 1/2 1/2

and yeah im serious. 1/2 1/2

[HaLo_07]

umm idk much either, but i do know about acrylic emulsions. you shoudl look to see what soem good emulsions for alcohol based shit are, becase linseed oil is already too thick to flow through a marker well, and so is acrylic, so i would look about finding alcohol emulsions, but you will most likely need some basic dyes for ur ink. basic dyes are basically what we call stainers, liek gv, meth blue, and malachite green are all basic dyes. they'll help add color to ur ink, and keep it super thin

Yo no nothin, but you really know your shiit. You got all the names to all your dyes and all pretty down packed as far as I know.

[Olick]

did u just say he knows nothing.

then next u said he really knows his shit

[conart]

would fallout acid or wheel acid work well in a ink

[dameit]

Is the ink in the Kiwi looking KRink mop, oil based also?

[Olick]

no

[illadelph]

i got some silver ink 'bout to come out soon as the site goes up...whenever the fuck that is....yes *ink*,not paint....y'all are gonna love this shit....and i got a new recipe for the bleed thru violet....shit is fuckin ***right***

[Hobbes]

Would contact solution be good for anything? It is SOLUTION.

contains shit like: hydroxyalkyl phosphonate, boric acid, edetate disodium, polyoxyethylene polyoxypropylene block copolymer with ethylene diamine, sodium borate and sodium chloride; preserved with polyaminopropyl biguanide....

not sure if any of that shit means anything to any of you guys, but I've always been curios if it would be useful.

wonder if its worth bothering with or if someone can tell me right now that its useless?

[MontanaPainter]

u mean you and montana painter? ahha its not soo hard, id go with alcohols though, becuse then you can use acrylic polymer emulsion, as with oils it would be a lot harder, also most dyes(which you will probably want) are more soluble in alcohols and water.

shut up

you dont know shit

lulz jk <3


in other news went racking today
couple cans of krylon engine paint

and some kiwis.

and emptied 4oz of **** onto many surfaces

also used half of my smash ink

its sooo nice but it runs out hella fast



1 year in direct sunlight marsh tag i found

1 year **** fade in direct sunlight



NONE OF THOSE ACTS OF VANDALISM WERE DONE BY ME!!

[Olick]

gasp. im calling the police

[MontanaPainter]

Olick, next time you gasp ill shove my dick in you open, innocent mouth.

in other news i was wondering about OIL BASED INKS

like ded outdoorsman

??neone

[Olick]

thats writtin in some little red book i own


btw pilot refill ink is oil based too

[cormac]

i "and someone else =D" want to create somethin like smash ink. thin opaque and flows through markers.

titanium dioxide i believe is a white pigment. i found it in all of rusto's paint. maybe it could be used to set a white base and then start adding the colored pigment for bright colors?

i have made a then white ethanol based pigment ink that flows through markers...

[Spark391]

1. I have heard that alcohol based ink will eat through plastic, so if I use pen ink in those 2oz krink mops will it eventualy explode, because the alchol eats the plastic nib part? If yes how long does it last?

2. How do the pen tubes should look like after standing in alcohol? Will the alcohol get everything out of the tubes? I made some pen ink (80 pens for 250 ml of alcohol) and it didn't come out very thick. Is the pen ink like that? Or should I just increase the number of pens, or I'm not using the right alchol? ( In my conutry I can't get it anywhere with out licence, so I used barbeque fluid (it should be almost pure alcohol I think) )

[kroc_oner]

lol your supposed to get rubbing alchol lmfao

[BizerkIZ]

u mean you and montana painter? ahha its not soo hard, id go with alcohols though, becuse then you can use acrylic polymer emulsion, as with oils it would be a lot harder, also most dyes(which you will probably want) are more soluble in alcohols and water.

Emulsions arn't Polymers (Acrylic) There Emulsions, Containing Emulsifying agents of the purest kind. Acylics are polymers (oils) But changed chemically to mix with water without an emulsifyer.

The oils would bond. dont

[H3TT1NG3R]

1-no alcohol does not eat thru plastic
2- the pen tubes should look empty. and barbeque fluid is actually naphta and oil based things, so that would not be good for pen ink.
your going to want rubbign alcohol(isopropanol), ethanol(drinking alcohol), acetone, or methanol. the easiest to findwould probably be rubbing alcohol, it can be boiught by anyone at normal stores. youre gunna want to get 90% or higher

[H3TT1NG3R]

Emulsions arn't Polymers (Acrylic) There Emulsions, Containing Emulsifying agents of the purest kind. Acylics are polymers (oils) But changed chemically to mix with water without an emulsifyer.

The oils would bond. dont

yea i really dont lnow much about emulsifiers or emulsions. enlighten me? haha. do you need an emulsifier to mix pigments with alcohol or what? ho would you go about doing that?

[BizerkIZ]

1. I have heard that alcohol based ink will eat through plastic, so if I use pen ink in those 2oz krink mops will it eventualy explode, because the alchol eats the plastic nib part? If yes how long does it last?

2. How do the pen tubes should look like after standing in alcohol? Will the alcohol get everything out of the tubes? I made some pen ink (80 pens for 250 ml of alcohol) and it didn't come out very thick. Is the pen ink like that? Or should I just increase the number of pens, or I'm not using the right alchol? ( In my conutry I can't get it anywhere with out licence, so I used barbeque fluid (it should be almost pure alcohol I think) )

Lets go over your post.

1. Alcohols do not effect household plastics. (you may be thinking of Acetone, Xylene or other chemicals. Which only degrade them.)
2. The alcohol wont remove 100% depending on the amount of pens as it will eventually be saturated by that solute.
3. More. heh.
4.Im suprised theres any attal. Barbique lightling fluid isn't alcohol. its chemical similar to napha (but a different hydrocarbon strand) An oil)
5.Sheesh.