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    micheals or some online retailer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by H3TT1NG3R View Post
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    idk what your talking about hydrolysis, but yea muraic acid AKA hydrochloric acid does cause rust, you can use it straight on metals without any ink at all, just acid, and its kinda liek stealth ink, it'll rust later.
    but sometimes it reacts with the ink, so test it with a few drops to make sure it doesnt react , if your goign to mix it with ink that is
    hydrolisis being like the acid is very attracted to the mmoisture in the air, so much that it litterally speeds up the process of making rust.not account for the fact that its also reactive to some metals. and what i was wondering was if it being so attracted to the moisture would make it more watery and less buff resistant. but knowim like fuck it, no point in goin through all the trouble just to be dickin around with crazy acids that might just end up fuckin up the whole recipe, stainers ftw

    edit:whats the differnce bettween fiebings leather dye and there edge dressing, or even, whats there best product in your guys oppinions
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    from what i gathered in the recipe thread. was that fiebrings is the strongest because everyone says to use it.

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    no i mean what is the best product sold by fiebings in you alls opinions and why, cuz i know they have like leather dye and edge dressing, so im guessing theres more. wait actually, not just fiebings but if there is better product thats sold by griffin than whats that
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    theyre about teh same, theyre both dyes. its liek diff brands of meth blue, theyre both meth blue, but the plain leather dye is probably the best

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    so youve tested some of there other products?
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    no, but all that people add the leather dyes for is for staining. And all of the dyes are for staining, so they should all work equally well, but leather seems the least penetrable part of a shoe, like suede would be easy to stain with even cool-aid, yet leather would be harder, so im assuming leather dye would be the best. And over time people still use leather dye, so id assume that it is the best for teh job, or else people would use another type

    not to mention leatehr dye is probably the easiest to find in a store

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    just a few quick questions for you guys, i just made some ink with tremclad oilbased paint, i used one can of 237 ml tremclad paint, and then filled the half empty can with mineral spirits. how much dot 3 should i add to the finished product, thanx.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeTwizzle View Post
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    welp, finding a store isnt really an issue to me cuz their are litterally zero shoe care stores in my city, so when ever i take the bus to meet up with meh homie in the next town, i just pick some up while im there. thanks tho, the shits been drivin me crazt on what i should get.
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    yea just plain leather dye should be good, look in the ink recipes thread, theres a good recipie that i think half dye half pigmented, which would be great, because it wouldnt fade much and it would stain

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    is thta seriously how much pigment you need to make a tag fade proof??
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    i guess, i mean the more the better. the dye will fade, the pigments wont

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    yea i kno that much, i mean, i put like a slightly heaping table spoon of pigment for every two or so cups worth of ink i make. so does pigment mean that the dyes will fade uderneath the pigment or does the pigment make the dyes uv reisistant.

    is there anyway to bond dye and pigment or do they bond natturally, cuz now im guessing that they have to bond tomake the dyes fade proof
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    i got a bottle of liquid meth blue.. is that good for ink? or do you want the powder?

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    evap it a bit.

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    well just adding pigments plain to think ink wont do much, becasue you need something to bind the pigments, so they dont just sink to teh bottom. But some pigments do help protect the dyes from UV rays, like titaium dioxide(white), is very good for that. but black i think absorbs light so thats not good. But the main thing is when you add pigments it makes it good for anywhere, cuz if you tag indoors its still got dyes, if its in teh sun, then its got the pigments.
    and no they dont bond.

    meth blue you can add stright, but its better if you let it sit out in the sun without the cap on for liek a day, that way theres less water in it

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    is marsh T grade pigmented xylene based or what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siner View Post
    just a few quick questions for you guys, i just made some ink with tremclad oilbased paint, i used one can of 237 ml tremclad paint, and then filled the half empty can with mineral spirits. how much dot 3 should i add to the finished product, thanx.
    i dont mean to be a douche but excuse me if im so blunt =]

    1. its not ink. its paint. generally ink vs. paint is defined by the bass it has. acetone = ink. linseed oil = paint. someshit like that

    2. i dunno why but its my pet peeve when people say they made something. not like u kno the chemicles tremclad uses. u just opened the can u kno?

    3. dot 3 is mainly just for inks. so you wouldnt need to add anything


    why? dot3 retards the drying time in ink. so in response it equals more time for dyes to react with the surface. which then equals more stain. since paint has no dye's in it theres no need to dot3. unless u want like. drips that take forever to dry =]
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    happens on every fuckin page olick....no matter how many times its said,some fuck will come in here and say "i read the thread and couldnt find how much dot 3 do i add to my gk?"


 

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