Ok bullshit aside lol...
Here is the Poll
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Phat2
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AcrsK

Herse
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Ian
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Mone

Fronco
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Somber
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Asrck it looks good and all but you can not just randomly pick up 3d in one day... I would not doubt it if you looked at some one else's 3d and did a bite... on another note Fronco GMV

 

Herste GMV, although I'm diggin fronco's as well. I just like the style of Herste's better

 

i gotta vote mone ,fronco had my vote but somthin about the d turned me off , dope style though

go vote on the beef battle Phat and I are goin to war........lol

 

somber, your standards are waaaaaaaay too fucking high for just an intermediate writer dude. try to come back down to earth every once in a while, that'd probably help you see things a bit clearly. everyone looks so small from that high up on your imaginary pedestle dont they? when in reality, you're just the same size as the rest of us
now smile wide, you might get that one vote you're so desperately praying to get just so that you can prove your point.

another note, pay a visit to the toy blackbook thread and check out 10 year old kids' sketches with no style, no flow, no letter structure, no consistency, no cleanliness, no good colors, and no creativity and come back to call my stuff shit. I'd be happy to admit it then.

go ahead and have your precious last word after this post so that you don't "lose the argument". as for my side, the subject is closed.

finally, I hate to do it, but I vote for herste. you missed a tiny spot under the stars on the far left that should've a red border
and yes, go vote on the beef thread

 

I have to go with Fronco on this one.

Mogan, you make me giggle with your biting accusation.

 

i like all the colors on herste's, but mone stay comin with the fire gmv

 

herste gmv

a letter to phat, written with much thought
My standards are not too high. You calling me an intermediate writer shows that your standards are too low. I dont consider myself an intermediate writer, I posted in that thread a few times then realized I needed more work. Look at the poll man, yours is by far the worst, votes aside. lol i was joking about the "lose the argument" thing. Im not criticizing your stuff cus im up on a pedestal, im saying it because its true bro. I dont have any problem with you, like I said a while ago I think you have a good attitude about getting better and you dont really bash other writers so thats cool. If you dont wanna admit your piece was bad thats cool, its not going to affect my life or anything, but that is a bad quality in a writer. You gotta be humble when its deserved dude and then you can be a dick when its warranted too, thats how I was schooled by some pros when I was very first starting out in a yard and they came up to me. so yeah...

props to wgone, mone and fronco, good entries dudes

 

a not on this debate
first thing is first i think its sad that you kids are learning this shit on the internet and not face to face with some one who is much better then you, when you do a piece it not important to hear things like "oh that dope" or "man your getting better" all you should hear is "thats fucking shit" thats the way graffiti is and has always been. its not about positive reenforcement or feeling validated about what your doing but rather the opposite. when you put something out this community they are supposed tell you its shit simply because it make you want to quit it test your conviction and determination to continue. in this culture you must be hated to be loved. forget about your last pieces , cause as far as your concerned, they all suck so start thinking about the next one.
also herste your making up for pore letter structure and flow with your 3d and drips .
ian thats what im talking about now try to overlap your letters a bit or try tilting them a bit but dont mess with the structure

 

if its pure shit i guess its valid what you said, but nothing bad with pointing out weak AND strong points. all that talk is redundant because youll get taught through the wall.
also you talk as if youve been around for ever. i think the culture gives a shit about you and your opinions on it. just saying.

mone.

 

thanks man, no one else said anything lol but i just straight up did plain letters so i figured it was just shitty again

 

Fronco GMV funky fresh

 

fronco and plankton is where im coming from fellas

 

Herse gmv.

Consistent letters with good placement as well as a decent color scheme -- makes it pop.

Mone would have gotten my vote if he had colored it rather than leaving it black and white; clean letters though. Those explosive jabbits are doin me dirty.

 

I agree with you on that, although i would have probably still voted the way i did. How come you never color your stuff mone? I really like your style but sometimes a full color piece is hard to out do with just black and white

 

nah mone i like the black and white, the only thing id like to see filled is the 3d, cause then ur shit would go from dope to dooope
that E is steazy by the way

 

AcrsK
you guys are seriously not giving this dude his dues
check out his flickr

@thepekins - lets battle

 

I dont know your stuff but im down for a friendly battle, if you win you can call my stuff shit all you want and I wont care haha. what word, how about PHOEBE? I have to sketch it for this chick at school anyway

 

@FRONCO-Any tips on improving structure and flow?