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9-11 Conspiracy.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by -=AgA=-TrAnCe, Sep 1, 2006.

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  1. PureSole

    PureSole Elite Member

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    ^unless it was some hot female gaurd
    id let her violate my ass...that sounds wrong but yall get the idea
     
  2. pablo.

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  3. Fiilth

    Fiilth New Member

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    Yeah you sound like you seen a few videos and think that it was planned 100% This makes you no better then those who think it was a terrorist attack.
    Before you go and start telling me to watch it , i have at first i was thinking damn that is
    some fucked up shit. Couldnt stop thinking about it. So i decided to research a bit of both sides of the story which alot of that shit can be explained. Lemme give you an example of how stupid some of the facts are.

    There were little or no remaining parts left of a plane at the pentagon.
    But the video also stated that the plane hit the side of the pentagon that was constructed to withstand an impact like that so you do the math. The video pretty much contradicts it self at points.

    Now something more trippier is John Oneil. This guy knew more about al queda and osama bin laden then anyone else. He was like the head of the cia and terrorism intelligence or some shit. Well on 9/11 he replaced george bushes brother marvin bush i think? Who was head of security at the wtc. Coincidently he died that day because of the attacks. I also recall bush saying that we will track down this "threat" and eliminate it.
    Well if he wanted to do that John Oneil was the man for the job.

    What do i think off all this you ask? I really dont give a fuck. Im pretty sure that there is some corruption in the goverment but then again this whole world is corrupted in some way or form. Instead practice that piece thats been floating around in your head. Shoplift those decos at Michaels. Just dont become brainwashed. Make your own decisions not decisions based on other peoples thoughts.
     
  4. treeshoe

    treeshoe Senior Member

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    check out the illuminatos trilliogy by Shea and Robert Wilson. Illlllll shit, it will lave you paraniod as fuck :lol:
     
  5. PureSole

    PureSole Elite Member

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    word ill check it out
     
  6. FuLa

    FuLa Elite Member

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    Jet fuel... EXPLODES. :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
    Ever hear a building or house fall? Also sounds like at explosion, or when metal or concrete is twisted under the weight+heat factor.


    As for the design... The WTT where flawed, the firewall was too thin and couldnt withstand the temperature of a generalized fire... specially not one backed by jet fuel. And you might not remember... but the towers actuall stayed standing a fucking long time concidering a plane rammed into it. Have any idea what kind of structural stress that puts on the whole building? People inside witnessed that the whole tower seemed to sway slightly when it hit. Now even swaying it a cm is enough to do an incredible amount of damage.


    Might be nothing as you say. So?
    That doesnt mean anything AT ALL. THere would be less business in the tourism departement around 9/11 if it wasnt for all the people that want to visit the ruins. So does that mean the tourist dudes decided to topple a tower to make more money? See how idiotic your statement sounds? He took advantage of an occurance, doesnt mean in any way that he caused it. [/b][/quote]
    to clear one thing up...i NEVER said I believe that this shit's a government plot or anything of that nature....loose change is wack and their main point that this whole deal is a government/nazi/illuminati group doing this shit is wack.


    your comment about "swaying" a cm is complete ignorant garbage...any building made by a competent being is made to withstand earquakes that would sway it way more than a cm.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qf09AREir-8 <-there's a video of a bridge during an earquake in the west coast...yeah yeah...eartquakes happen very regularly on the west coast because of the tectonic plates, etc. etc...NY's has been known for earquakes in the past as well.

    3rd have you seen loose change? do you know the examples I mean when there were buildings burning for hours and hours? (more than 20 or 30 hours)...and never fell down?...the twin towers were two buildings that were burning at the top for less than 2 or 3 hours...(the government says that the BURNING of the steel & temperature brought them down, not the impact)..in fact like they say in loose change(and you can see it yourself in any video), most of the jet fuel blows to the side of the building..& & 3 buildings fell down, not just these two..

    again, i'm not saying this is a government plot but there's a lot of shit that needs to be cleared, like the explosions and other shit...I do believe it was terrorists, I come from Bolivia and I know how much people hate the US government AND PEOPLE(and they have very good reasons)..that shit's unquestionable, what I'm questioning is "what would bush's presidency be without this shit?" what about the terrible health care system that the US has?...couldn't he take care of terrorism AND the health care system?...there's more shit that should be take care of that this fool probably doesn't even know what it means.

    i'm tired and dont' think you're too smart, you didn't contradict any of my "idiotic" statements at any time, in fact you didn't even get my main point, you assumed that I'm all about the conspiracies, government, (tourism agencies now i guess?) <-that's a pretty idiotic example if you ask me...conspiracies=wack.
     
  7. J.A.B.

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    For anyone interested in a point-by-point debunking of some of the most popular conspiracy theories out there (like the fact that steel melts at 1525° C, and although jet fuel burns only at 825° C, it doesn't have to burn hot enough to melt to cause the buildings to collapse, since steel loses 50% of its strength at 648 ° C), !!!!!!!!!!!!!! now shut the fuck up
     
  8. DISKO NEVER DIESSS

    DISKO NEVER DIESSS Senior Member

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    you're a fuckin cretin

    ( http://www.answers.com/topic/cretin , theres the link to save you the time you little defect)
     
  9. morningglory

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    to clear one thing up...i NEVER said I believe that this shit's a government plot or anything of that nature....loose change is wack and their main point that this whole deal is a government/nazi/illuminati group doing this shit is wack.


    your comment about "swaying" a cm is complete ignorant garbage...any building made by a competent being is made to withstand earquakes that would sway it way more than a cm.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qf09AREir-8 <-there's a video of a bridge during an earquake in the west coast...yeah yeah...eartquakes happen very regularly on the west coast because of the tectonic plates, etc. etc...NY's has been known for earquakes in the past as well.

    3rd have you seen loose change? do you know the examples I mean when there were buildings burning for hours and hours? (more than 20 or 30 hours)...and never fell down?...the twin towers were two buildings that were burning at the top for less than 2 or 3 hours...(the government says that the BURNING of the steel & temperature brought them down, not the impact)..in fact like they say in loose change(and you can see it yourself in any video), most of the jet fuel blows to the side of the building..& & 3 buildings fell down, not just these two..

    again, i'm not saying this is a government plot but there's a lot of shit that needs to be cleared, like the explosions and other shit...I do believe it was terrorists, I come from Bolivia and I know how much people hate the US government AND PEOPLE(and they have very good reasons)..that shit's unquestionable, what I'm questioning is "what would bush's presidency be without this shit?" what about the terrible health care system that the US has?...couldn't he take care of terrorism AND the health care system?...there's more shit that should be take care of that this fool probably doesn't even know what it means.

    i'm tired and dont' think you're too smart, you didn't contradict any of my "idiotic" statements at any time, in fact you didn't even get my main point, you assumed that I'm all about the conspiracies, government, (tourism agencies now i guess?) <-that's a pretty idiotic example if you ask me...conspiracies=wack. [/b][/quote]
    Its idiotic to assume that you support what you just gave points to prove and used as your references? :rolleyes: riiiiightttt.......


    NYC is not a quake zone as you seem to know and the buildings arent built on a steel mesh grid like in Tokyo or LA. You build for your enviroment. NYC towers can't take the sway LA bridges can. Also notice a suspended bridge is very fucking flexible compared to a cemented building with foundations. So speaking of idiotic... Don't compare two things totally different. Also an earthquake is from fondation up, not a nice lateral smack near the top.



    J.A.B beat me to the steel reference. Not many buildings burnt with jet fuel. Not many. And how about all the buildings that caught fire and acutally did fall down? If this building is so awesomely constructed as you seem to think then how the hell did they manage to get the phenomenal ammount of explosives in place without no one noticing? It would require engineers or very decent demo experts to know where to place charges to knock down a building Soooooooo well constructed. It's not a feasable theory with the evidence currently demonstrated.


    So lets say it was explosifs also... and you see mto agree it was terrorists... so they used planes AND bombs. Um.... so what? What does the goverment have to gain in hiding the fact they also used bombs? Why not simply just use the bombs? Why didnt they claim that they used bombs and not just talk about the planes they used (the terrorist group)?. I fail to see any reason they would hide such information.

    Yes other buildings where destroyed around the twin towers. Did you see the shockwave those buildings created when they fell??? I suggest you look at some amateur videos of the event and you might grasp it better. The whole ground was litterally shaking. Not to mention the airblast.


    Psshh nigga I KNOW I'm smart. And yes I DID contradict your statements. Do you even know what contradict means? As in DID NOT AGREE WITH. I most certainly contradicted you. And I also proved you wrong while I was at it.
    Neways since I also happen to be mad tired, I'm off to shower+sleep.
     
  10. PureSole

    PureSole Elite Member

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    I cant sleep, because obviouly the sheep are in this thread, not my head

    just counting yall one by one
     
  11. morningglory

    morningglory Elite Member

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    The world is filled with sheep who think they are wolves.
     
  12. DISKO NEVER DIESSS

    DISKO NEVER DIESSS Senior Member

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    oh golly you alternative hipster you

    id call you a scooter ridin, beret buyin, mocha skinny laté toting ikea catalouge motherfucker with jacketed chiwawa in your louis vuitton travelpack, but i know you're not, so i wont bother

    o' woe
     
  13. FuLa

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    alright..better worded, you did not SUCESSFULLY contradict any of my "idiotic" statements....anyway, its all good, we won't solve it here and i dont' care for arguing...

    lol but its interesting cause i'm studying architecture :p just a year in the program but when I learn my shit real good...i'll be back if this thread is still open :p
     
  14. -=AgA=-TrAnCe

    -=AgA=-TrAnCe Elite Member

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    omfg! fula is the only one who sees how fucked this shit is.
     
  15. DISKO NEVER DIESSS

    DISKO NEVER DIESSS Senior Member

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    no, you're fuckin distorted

    this shite happened in the name of islam, this shite existed because of islam, this shite existed because of religion, this shite killed people because of some cunt that lived thousands of years back smokin somethin that made him seem philosophical, this shite is fucked up, when you have people saying that people who say shite to some cunt named muhammed who lived 1000s of years back should be stonned to death, should have their head cut off, who should bleed to death in the name of some cunt who dont exist, some cunt who is someones stupid idea of how everything came into being, its all totally fucked up

    religion sucks, a lot, i dont even know how christians can even remotely belive that crock of shite, when the opening lines are "in the beginining" its such a crock of shite, and it hurts me that my friends, who ARE smart people can utterly follow this cult, this horrible influence that has led to the deaths of thousands who dont comply, it's utterly insane

    i hate religion so fuckin much, and it hurts me deeply that i hate these horrible (mainstreamly accepted) cults when MY FRIENDS believe in this shite, the only thing that stops me talkin my hatred is my friends, cause i hate to see them hurt
     
  16. -=AgA=-TrAnCe

    -=AgA=-TrAnCe Elite Member

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    man, a sensative, caring, angry side of vegi. userally its gay porn and stupid ass comments. man this is like coming out of the closet for you. i agree completely about the religion. goverments use religion. people do.
     
  17. Nyc Sno

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    i beleive there was warning for the twin towers crash but i think the pentagn hit was a cover up it was really hit by a misle
     
  18. joust

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    I can not belive you fuckin morons are acutally arguing about this. I watched the video a long while ago when it first came out, and it was questionable then as well. He makes some convincing points... people make convincing points to say aliens are in our country. The fuckin fact is that it happened and some d-bag college student who wants to make a name for himself is not going to affect the governments course of action in a country where people are affraid of breaking the law for what they belive in.
     
  19. -=AgA=-TrAnCe

    -=AgA=-TrAnCe Elite Member

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    hot u can actually say that is ridiculous, its just a guy who has linked all this stuff. 9/16-15 "hiyjacers" were found alive
    living around the world.

    pentagon, the usa, the government fucked up big style, paniced to get people and made a fuckload of money, all in one day.
     
  20. morningglory

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    haha you are again wrong. Contradict is to say the opposite. I SUCCESFULLLY did disagree. Even if what I said may have been wrong it still is a succesfull contradiction.

    haha fucking kids.

    OMG teh goverment is out to get me lololo!1111!!1!!1!