if you're looking on oinkartltd.com i dont think its outdoorsmen, i think they made a mistake because outdoorsmen only comes in carbon black. but if it is outdoorsmen, then try it. but its probably easy to buff aswell
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Grog - Full Metal Chrome = FUCKING SHIT. Melted one marker, dried another out, and is too thick to come through the nib of my Soultip nicely. Total waste of time. Either gotta thin it out or use some other ink.
have you even used either of them? Trust me, I've used both a lot, I've never had an oink tag that lasted longer than a couple weeks in direct sunlight. I've actually had GK mixes that beat the buff better than oink did. I haven't caught up with the train yet so I don't have post buff pics but the ink just felt better, it's thicker, easier to control the drips etc etc. I realize that illa mostly just mixes Fiedburgs and Garvey with other stuff but it's still dope. and as long as I can trade stuff for it is sure beats buying ink. edit, the kid deleted his post.
has anyone seemingly retarded mix recipe in the sticky with the leather paint and the leather dye? the pictures make it look pretty dope, but it's so stupid in theory... all of the following are no-nos -thinning acrylic paint with "paint thinner" (petroleum distillates) -thinning alcohol based leather dye with paint thinner -mixing paint and (what's basicly) ink but the end result looks so dope in the pics
oh lord cept...don't post ever again, you don't know wtf you're talking about... pen ink sucks by itself, especially after you thin it down with alcohol. if you use it by yourself it won't last long and it def. won't hold up against the buff griffin is MUCH stronger than thinned down pen ink... pen ink is cheap bullshit meant to be permanent only on paper. it's not made to bare the elements. then you thin it down with alcohol and it's even worse.
stut the fuck up tiros. pen ink sucks byitself? hahaha that shit will go through the buff if you make it right Tiros your a ignorant loser GTFO of these forums you fag
ya pen ink actually lastys the buff just as good as garvey or almost oink with just a little meth blue and dot3
[Broken External Image]:http://www.reefcorner.com/images/PaintCans.jpgand a ink recipe thats made from painters touch paint
and pen ink is solvent based, your not watering down my adding alc, your getting out of the tubes and thinnng it so it will flow, the reason you think is suck is mostlikely you, your using 71% alc, your using 1o pens for 16oz of alc, the problem is you, not pen ink.
corio holds up alright but it is mainly for indoors. nero is actually just really strong leather dye and also holds up quite well outside, but both stain hard.
i have to disagree with you. nero in direct sunlight is poop. becomes like it got buffed, and looks like a ghost.